Welcome to Inheritance from Mother Tongue, an attempt to make sense of what my mother left me. Today's episode is a lightly-edited conversation with Jason Tan de Bibiana from October 4th, 2020.

Huge thanks to Jason for the conversation and for teaching me about facilitation, Tristan Paxton (https://www.instagram.com/tristanpaxton07/) for the music, Mike Gagné (https://www.behance.net/mikegagne) for the art, and Cody Robertson for the editing and sound.

This episode is dedicated to my cousin Laura Fero.

Topics:

• Mix CDs (~2:20)
• Raptors - Nets (~4:00)
• Pelicans - COVID (~5:00)
• Lakers - Heat culture (~7:30)
• Marc to Barcelona (~11:30)
• Playing pickup during COVID/park closures (~12:15)
• Jason's work re: criminal/legal system, mental health, and substance use (~18:15)
• Secondhand Shad on incarceration (~22:00)
• Abolition, which has been around for much longer than 50 years and on which I hope to inform myself in an upcoming episode (~23:20)
• Other forms of justice (~30:00)
• Next Gen Men (https://www.nextgenmen.ca/) and recognizing the patriarchy (~31:40)
• Jason's "mother tongue"(~41:00)
• "Mother tongues" in my family (~48:00)
• Jason's dad, the polyglot (~52:00)
• The Henry Moore room at the AGO, designed by Jason's dad (~54:00)
• Jason's colours & style (~59:00)
• Jason's genetic inheritance: colour blindness (~1:01:15)
• Bereavement, trauma, identity & telling personal stories (~1:08:00)
• Putting the dead in the past tense (~1:13:00)
• Bringing up the dead in conversation (~1:20:20)
• Facilitating (~1:22:20)
  • A Next Gen Men circle
  • General principles
• Your mom jokes, me being a bit of a psychopath (~1:47:30)