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Hi, friends. Welcome to In the Market with

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2:15

where Craig and I share some of the stories making

2:17

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2:19

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2:21

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2:31

Now let's take a quick look back at some of the other

2:33

topics we discussed this week.

2:42

It's an attempt to de

2:44

um, value human life,

2:47

demote us to just another animal

2:49

in the forest. We're just part of the

2:51

ecosystem. And I think

2:53

a lot of people believe

2:55

that if we just see ourselves

2:57

as one with the rest of nature,

3:00

that will treat nature better, and

3:02

I, I say,

3:04

cut to the contrary. If all we are is

3:06

an animal, that's how we'll act.

3:09

And the reason we do treat nature

3:11

well, and the reason we do have

3:14

the obligation to, uh, husband

3:16

the earth properly and shepherd the earth

3:19

is because we are human.

3:21

We are the only moral species

3:23

there is.

3:24

These are violent acts in many cases. I

3:26

mean, students have been assaulted on

3:29

campuses like UCLA. We've

3:31

seen damage to buildings like at the University

3:33

of Columbia. So any claim

3:35

that this is just merely, um,

3:38

another form of speech is completely off

3:40

base. And so we need to be clear

3:42

that these students should face consequences,

3:44

including suspension and and expulsion.

3:47

I've identified, uh, through

3:50

government reports, the key

3:52

entities that are engaged in

3:54

Chinese biological research. One

3:56

is the, uh, the PLA

3:59

Academy of Military Medical

4:01

Sciences. Now, they were sanctioned

4:03

back in 2021, but

4:05

not for, uh, biological

4:08

weapons. They were sanctioned for doing what

4:10

the Commerce said were brain warfare

4:12

weapons. So they're building some

4:14

really deadly stuff. And

4:16

brain warfare could be anything from,

4:19

uh, directed energy, microwaves

4:21

to what some people suspect

4:23

may be involved with the so-called Havana

4:26

syndrome. These incidents

4:28

where our diplomats and intelligence

4:30

personnel have been bombarded with

4:32

some kind of energy, which has caused

4:34

brain damage and severe,

4:36

severe health problems.

4:39

Being able to extend forgiveness as Christ

4:41

extended. Forgiveness is

4:43

a model to strive for. But

4:45

humans aren't always good at this, and

4:48

it's sometimes easier to just

4:50

brush some somebody off from

4:52

here on out and say, you know what? I'm just not going to

4:55

even have you in my life anymore

4:57

rather than to extend forgiveness.

4:59

And and I acknowledge that that also

5:02

is not easy. Sometimes some

5:04

people can do some really hurtful things.

5:06

And, um, one one

5:08

thing I recommend is that, you know, we ask

5:10

the Lord to give us strength to forgive

5:13

people as we've been forgiven.

5:15

Um, it's in the Lord's Prayer. Begin

5:17

reciting that and make

5:19

it one of those regular prayers

5:22

that you say, so that you can begin

5:24

to harbor forgiveness

5:27

rather than anger.

5:28

When I came home to go

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to rehab, it was in November, the middle

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of November. And so, um,

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my stay was actually during all

5:37

of the major holidays. So I missed Thanksgiving,

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I missed Christmas, I missed New Year's.

5:43

Um, and so I was in

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rehab for like, the most

5:47

family oriented holidays.

5:50

And so that that part was really painful. But,

5:52

um, you know, imagine you've numbed

5:55

your pain from ages

5:57

14 to 20, and,

6:00

um, now all of a sudden, you're

6:02

stripped from the things that numbed your pain.

6:05

You have to experience it all at once.

6:07

This whole idea behind whether

6:10

addiction is a disease or whether it's

6:12

a choice, you know, um, because

6:15

a lot of times people think, okay, you know, if

6:17

you say that it's a choice, then,

6:19

okay, you, you just make

6:22

the decision to drink, you make the decision to

6:24

do drugs, and now you make the decision to stop

6:26

doing those things. If you say it's a disease,

6:28

it almost removes personal responsibility.

6:32

It's hard to hurt Friday. Here are some of the

6:34

other stories making headlines this week.

6:37

Russia's President Vladimir Putin,

6:39

is starting his fifth term in

6:41

office and marking the moment with a

6:43

lavish inauguration.

6:45

According to police, the World War

6:47

One memorial at the corner of 67th

6:49

Street and Fifth Avenue was

6:51

desecrated last night by pro-Palestinian

6:53

protesters and an American flag

6:56

was burned.

6:57

The Philippines national security adviser

6:59

called for Chinese diplomats to be expelled

7:01

on Friday over an alleged leaked

7:04

phone conversation with a Filipino

7:06

admiral and a significant escalation

7:08

of a. Bitter row over the South China

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Sea.

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8:07

Happy Friday to you friends. So good to have

8:09

you with us. Craig Parshall is with me. He joins me

8:11

on Fridays as we take a look at a wide variety

8:13

of topics. But we look at them from

8:15

a markedly different perspective through the lens

8:18

of Scripture. So unlike the alphabet

8:20

soup, we're going to offer some analysis. They certainly

8:22

do. By the way, my commentary this

8:24

week dealt with a new poll out from the Associated

8:27

Press that says America's trust in the

8:29

national press is at a record

8:31

low only 14%.

8:33

That's one for 14%

8:36

of those surveyed said they trust

8:38

the national media, particularly when it comes to

8:40

elections on the national level

8:42

and 11% trust the media on

8:45

a local level. And what was interesting,

8:47

and these were people of all stripes politically,

8:49

is they didn't like the fact that they felt

8:51

that the network played favorites,

8:53

that they withheld information about

8:55

candidate in order to advance a particular

8:58

candidate, that they were very

9:00

skewed in what they decided to broadcast

9:02

and didn't. And so I think that's why we're seeing

9:05

such popularity on the, quote, alternative

9:07

media and why so many other platforms

9:09

now are getting upticks in viewers

9:11

and readers than the network soup. So

9:14

back to that alphabet soup I was talking about before.

9:16

What we do is we do take a look at these stories, but

9:18

then we go through life with the Bible in

9:20

one hand and the newspaper in the other, and we

9:22

take a look at the issues that are out there today

9:24

and just see how it squares up with what Scripture teaches

9:27

us. We've said it before, and I'll say it again,

9:29

if you're at all interested in Bible prophecy, and I certainly

9:31

hope you are, because right now the Lord has a 100%

9:34

success rate, doesn't get any better than

9:36

that. So I think it's a pretty safe thing to say that

9:38

whatever is prophesied is yet to come is going to

9:40

be fulfilled in its entirety, completely, just

9:42

as he said. And certainly one of

9:44

the majestic forms of the fulfillment of

9:46

prophecy was the establishment of the nation

9:49

of Israel. The Jewish state in 1948

9:52

took place at the United Nations. The U.S.

9:54

was the first country to affirm

9:56

the establishment of that nation. Boy, have

9:59

we come a long way and

10:01

it's all downhill. So the first

10:03

day we were going to start with is to start with is something that

10:05

happened at the U.N. today at the U.N. General

10:07

Assembly. They convened again today. They call

10:09

it an emergency special session. And they

10:11

also I dated according to their web page

10:14

as the, quote, Gaza crisis

10:16

that tells you immediately their perspective on this situation.

10:19

But they did something they've never done before.

10:21

They overwhelmingly passed a resolution which

10:23

upgrades Palestine's rights.

10:25

And let me just pause. This is right off the

10:27

U.N. page. Can you show me where Palestine

10:30

is on a map? Go ahead, go ahead. You

10:32

can use a lifeline. You can call a friend. There

10:34

is no Palestine. It is a made up

10:36

term and when the son of Hamas

10:38

himself goes on a lecture

10:40

tour and says the exact same thing,

10:43

you understand, it's an arbitrary term.

10:45

It really the derivation of the word, by the way, comes from

10:47

the Philistines. Yeah. Is in David, in that

10:49

giant. But there is no, quote,

10:51

Palestine. So to acknowledge

10:53

a country that doesn't even have borders,

10:55

let alone exist, is ludicrous

10:57

on its face. But forget it. This is the UN.

10:59

They are very, very, very pro-arab.

11:02

There's a monstrous Arab block.

11:04

For years, the palpable

11:06

animus against Israel has been manifest at

11:08

the United Nations. In my time up there, I saw

11:11

multiple resolutions get introduced that

11:13

just vilified Israel. So it's

11:15

one of the most anti-Semitic organizations

11:17

on planet Earth. So let me go

11:19

back to what they did today. So they

11:21

upgraded, quote, Palestine's rights.

11:24

And that's an argumentative term.

11:26

And they said that now Palestine

11:29

in quotes has the status of

11:31

an observer state.

11:33

I'll break this down for you in a bit. That means they

11:35

don't have full membership. So when you go into

11:37

the General Assembly and you see if you haven't

11:40

been there, then you've seen it portrayed in a movie where they've

11:42

got the graduated steps like stadium seating,

11:44

and they all face forward against a green

11:46

marble wall. And there is a 3D

11:48

sculpture on the wall of the globe.

11:50

And I remember when I sat in the chair

11:53

at the behest of a current of a president.

11:55

At the time, all I could think of was the

11:57

day was going to come. Whenever NI is going to bow

11:59

and every tongue is going to confess that Jesus

12:01

Christ is Lord, and they all sit in their graduated

12:04

seats and they all had their earphones on. And then behind

12:06

the walls through little pieces of glass, there

12:08

are interpreters that translate whatever's being said

12:10

into the language of the hearer

12:13

of what's going on. So they

12:15

now don't have the right to

12:17

be able to vote like Austria or

12:19

Belgium. But they are now, quote, an observer

12:22

setter, which means they can give a back and forth,

12:25

uh, into what's going on,

12:27

but they cannot outright vote.

12:29

And so, um, they

12:31

then urged the Security Council, which is

12:33

a proud it's an. See

12:35

more on name to begin with.

12:38

When you realize that the axis of evil makes

12:40

up a great deal of that Security Council, there's not

12:42

a whole lot of security there. But I digress

12:44

though. So the UN wants the Security Council

12:47

to give favorable consideration. To quote

12:49

Palestine's request, of course they

12:51

want to be recognized as a state.

12:53

So I'm going to give you a little audio now of what

12:55

happened in New York City today. Have a listen.

12:58

The result of the vote is as

13:00

follows. In

13:03

favor 143

13:06

against, nine abstentions

13:10

25 draft

13:12

resolution eight stroke

13:14

s ten stroke L 30

13:17

stroke Rev one is

13:19

adopted. LED

13:22

by the Hitler of our

13:24

times, the Hitler of

13:26

our times in the

13:28

1940s, the world united

13:30

to destroy a murderous

13:32

regime. Yet today, with

13:34

sick and twisted irony,

13:37

the very body established to

13:39

prevent evil is now welcoming

13:42

a terror state into its ranks.

13:46

What would Churchill say

13:48

if he were alive today? What

13:50

would Roosevelt think? They

13:53

are turning in their graves. Turning

13:56

in their graves. This

13:58

week, only this week, Israel

14:00

commemorated Yom Hashoah

14:03

Holocaust Remembrance Day.

14:06

And it is during our sacred

14:08

week that this shameless body

14:10

has chosen to reward modern

14:12

day Nazis with rights and

14:14

privileges. As

14:17

Israelis mourn the Jewish babies

14:19

burned in the crematoria, you

14:22

here at the UN usher in the collaborators

14:25

of the Israeli babies burned

14:27

on October 7th.

14:30

How can you be so blind?

14:34

Is it your political interest?

14:36

Are these your distorted values?

14:40

Are you being threatened by diplomatic

14:42

terror of the Palestinians and their collaborators?

14:46

There are many here. Colleagues.

14:50

Today's destructive vote

14:52

is not only opening the UN's

14:54

doors to the terror

14:56

supporting Palestinian Authority.

14:58

If it was, then it would

15:00

be bad enough. But

15:03

as you all know, the Palestinian Authority

15:05

does not even have control of

15:07

its own territory. Do

15:11

you know who controls Gaza? You

15:15

probably have forgotten because in all

15:17

of your resolutions here since October

15:19

7th, you have failed to even call

15:21

them out by name. So

15:24

I'll remind you, it's

15:26

the terrorists of Hamas.

15:30

But Hamas doesn't only control

15:32

Gaza. Hamas has also

15:34

taken over Palestinian neighborhoods,

15:36

Palestinian villages in

15:39

Judea and Samaria, what you call the

15:41

West Bank. In every

15:43

poll, Hamas today is predicted

15:45

to win Palestinian elections

15:48

if they ever happen. So

15:51

today, the General Assembly

15:53

is not only about to grant

15:55

the rights of a state

15:57

to the Palestinian Terror Authority.

16:00

Today, you are also about to

16:02

grant privileges and

16:05

rights to the future terror

16:07

state of Hamas. You

16:10

have opened up the United Nations

16:12

to modern day Nazis.

16:15

Now, I'm going to give you one more bit of audio.

16:18

That last part was

16:20

Israel's Ambassador, Gilad Erdan,

16:22

and he makes an excellent point talking

16:24

about it's really run by a terrorist organization. But

16:26

it did something else. He walked up to

16:28

the podium and at the end of his speech, he had a shredder

16:31

in his hand. Listen.

16:33

Today I will hold up

16:35

a mirror for you a mirror.

16:39

This is your mirror so

16:42

that you can see exactly

16:44

what you are inflicting upon

16:46

the UN charter with this

16:49

destructive vote.

16:53

This is. You

16:59

are shredding the UN charter

17:02

with your own hands. Yes,

17:06

yes, that's what you're doing. Shredding

17:09

the UN charter. Shame

17:12

on you.

17:14

That's pretty effective. I think the people

17:16

in that body won't forget that. So literally came

17:18

up with a small shredder and then shredded the

17:20

charter of the United Nations during his

17:22

speech. Craig, your reaction?

17:24

Uh, that in a trial that would

17:26

be called demonstrative evidence and I'd say

17:28

very powerful, uh, symbolic,

17:31

uh, depiction of

17:33

the action of the UN. I hear

17:35

the music playing. I think we need to talk about

17:38

this because it it is

17:40

so outrageous that we need

17:42

to put geopolitics,

17:44

even geopolitics, and how we feel about

17:47

Israel and the Bible. Put it aside just for

17:49

a second. This is so outrageous

17:51

under international law that

17:54

I think it needs to be disassembled immediately.

17:57

And why do I think you're just the guy to dissemble

17:59

it? So we're going to take a break and come right back. Our first

18:01

story is talking about what happened at the United

18:03

Nations today. No surprise. anti-Semitic

18:06

body always has been giving

18:08

states observer status to a terrorist

18:11

organization. I wonder when

18:13

ISIS is going to apply. We're going to take a break.

18:15

We'll be right back. So

18:27

this is pretty amazing news. And it just happened

18:29

today on Friday, where the

18:31

United Nations decided that they

18:33

would, in their wisdom, grant

18:36

for the first time ever to

18:38

Palestine. And I'm putting quotes around

18:40

that because there is no country

18:42

known as Palestine. They've now

18:44

been given, according to the United Nations, and

18:46

a vote of 143 to 9, with 25

18:49

abstentions. Observer status.

18:51

But they don't get full membership now it's urging

18:53

the Security Council, which is like

18:56

the fox guarding the chicken house, uh,

18:58

favorable consideration to

19:00

the terrorist entities request.

19:02

So, Craig, you were going to talk about this biblically,

19:04

but you said even just from a legal perspective,

19:06

this is anathema. Talk to me about this.

19:08

Yeah. If you take the Bible seriously,

19:10

which you and I do, and a whole

19:12

lot of your listeners do as well, it's

19:14

crystal clear where God stands

19:17

on the nation of Israel and the people of Israel

19:19

and the geography of Israel.

19:21

But let's just talk about international law. The

19:24

United Nations declares

19:26

itself not to be a religious organization.

19:28

So we'll step away from the Bible

19:30

for a minute and just talk about how

19:32

they pretend, how they

19:34

propose to represent,

19:37

uh, the collection of nation

19:39

states. They believe the

19:41

UN, that they are grounded on

19:43

international law. That is, those collective,

19:46

universal ideas about,

19:48

uh, law that is just proper

19:51

and due process and so forth.

19:53

Um, that, that all the

19:55

nations that become nation

19:58

states recognized by the UN also

20:00

agree to those general principles. And

20:02

there are there was a charter,

20:04

an initial charter, when the UN was formed,

20:07

and they established certain national

20:09

rights and rights of individuals and so forth

20:11

that are sort of supposedly universal.

20:13

And United States not only meets all

20:15

those standards, we exceed all of them

20:17

under our constitutional republic.

20:21

But take that and

20:23

then take the recognition

20:25

of Israel, uh,

20:27

as a nation in the 40s.

20:30

They had to meet four criterias that

20:33

all the legal scholars at the time

20:35

who were participating in the founding of the UN

20:38

agreed were the four essentials that

20:40

a nation state must meet

20:42

in order to be recognized as a

20:44

legitimate nation by the UN.

20:46

Number one, a recognizable

20:48

people. Now the Jews have thousands

20:51

of years. First of all, the record of

20:53

the Bible is complete. It is replete

20:55

with identification of the

20:58

Jewish people as a people and

21:00

as a people group, but also

21:02

historically, Janet. History

21:04

is replete as well, with evidence

21:07

for thousands of years of the Jewish

21:09

people being a identifiable

21:11

people group, also a land.

21:13

Number two so a people and a land,

21:16

and the Jews connection with

21:18

the land of Israel, um, again

21:21

goes back thousands of years and it goes

21:23

back not just in terms of secular

21:25

history and archaeology, but also

21:27

obviously recorded accurately

21:30

and repeatedly, um, and

21:32

completely in the Bible. Number

21:34

three, they have to have a legitimate legal system.

21:37

Israel has, uh,

21:39

next to the United States, one

21:41

of the most legitimate forms

21:43

of not only Parliament, um,

21:46

uh, like a Congress

21:48

over there, the same as we do.

21:50

Uh, that is to say, representatives of the people

21:53

by popular vote, but also a Supreme Court

21:55

and a lower court system that

21:58

is on par with the legitimacy

22:00

of the United States, a court system.

22:02

Number four, they have to show

22:04

that they are capable of,

22:07

um, international diplomacy in terms

22:09

of representing the people, the land,

22:12

their legal system to the, to

22:14

the international community in a responsible

22:16

way. Uh, now, Israel

22:18

met all four of those, uh,

22:20

and the vast majority of the international scholars,

22:22

in fact, I don't know any that really had any

22:24

legitimate objections to them meeting

22:27

those four requirements. Now, let's apply

22:29

those same four to the so-called

22:31

Palestinian state that the UN

22:33

keeps trying to slowly

22:35

edge toward, inch by inch,

22:38

mile by mile, forcing

22:40

the Assembly to get used to the idea

22:42

of a Palestinian nation. Number one,

22:44

a people, the Palestinian

22:47

uh, group, a people group as a

22:49

group was not really discussed until

22:51

the 1960s with the founding

22:53

of the PLO. How did the PLO start? Because

22:55

the Arab League looked at the nation

22:58

of Israel that had just been created, and

23:00

they lost their war because they tried

23:02

to destroy Israel? Uh, very

23:04

soon after its establishment and recognition,

23:07

uh, not established. I believe God

23:09

created it. Um, but,

23:11

uh, recognized it. Then immediately

23:14

they had to fight for their life in the War of Independence,

23:16

which they won against the Arab surrounding nations.

23:19

So the response was, okay,

23:21

let's build our own group. We're going to call

23:23

them the Palestinian people. Okay?

23:25

So let's even grant them that there.

23:28

Since the 1960s, there's been a

23:30

group called the Palestinian People. Not

23:32

millennia, right? Not hundreds

23:34

of years, but since the 1960s.

23:36

What is the land that you can

23:38

show us that the Palestinian people

23:41

have a long standing

23:43

and legitimate connection to the land.

23:45

It is nothing but a response to

23:47

their hatred of the nation of Israel

23:49

that was recognized by the UN. Number

23:52

three do they have a legitimate legal system? That's

23:54

laughable. Hamas is a terror group

23:56

that runs that part of

23:58

Gaza. The Palestinian Authority,

24:01

which runs the other part on the West, so-called

24:03

West Bank, has been looting

24:05

the Palestinian people, taking their

24:07

money that had been given from international,

24:10

uh, foundations and by other nations

24:12

and using it for armaments

24:14

and, and terrorist, uh, intrigue.

24:17

Number four. Uh, do they

24:19

do they have a legitimate, uh,

24:21

arm of diplomacy to the world

24:23

and to other nations? Of course not.

24:26

So they don't meet any of those requirements,

24:28

any of those criteria, and everybody really

24:30

knows it. Who knows anything about international

24:32

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24:34

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25:31

Well, we're going to stick with the law. Only this

25:33

time, instead of it being at the United Nations, we're

25:35

going to talk about that app that so many people

25:37

use. Millions of people in the United

25:39

States use it. And it's a funnel

25:41

to Communist China. And it's a problem,

25:43

by the way, a big problem, which is why the federal

25:45

government and Congress have been looking at this

25:48

very closely. And so they basically said bye

25:50

bye to TikTok. Well, TikTok

25:52

is not going to take that lying down because there's gold

25:54

in them there. Hills, I want you to hear this

25:57

news story first, and then Craig is going to flesh this out

25:59

for you. TikTok is mad. So mad

26:01

that they plan on suing the United States.

26:03

Have a listen.

26:04

TikTok and its parent company, ByteDance,

26:06

are making it clear that they will be taking on the

26:08

federal government. And they outline in this lawsuit

26:11

that not only are they not

26:13

willing to try and find a new parent

26:15

company for TikTok, that they simply

26:17

just will not do so. So one of the major

26:20

arguments that TikTok outlines

26:22

in this lawsuit is that a possible

26:24

ban infringes on the rights of 170

26:26

million Americans who use

26:28

the app right here in the United States.

26:31

TikTok also argues that

26:33

the Chinese parent company ByteDance, cannot

26:35

get permission from the Chinese government

26:37

necessarily to sell a certain

26:39

feature of the app that powers TikTok

26:42

here in the United States. They also

26:44

make the case here that it would take years

26:46

to find a whole new set of engineers

26:48

to sort of power the platform

26:50

here in the United States. And so

26:52

ultimately, it would lead to a shutdown

26:54

of TikTok by the end of

26:56

January of next year.

26:58

And so they are taking on the federal government,

27:00

and they say that they will challenge this all the way through

27:02

the courts.

27:03

Hmm. So TikTok is mad

27:06

and they plan on suing. And so they made

27:08

that decision this week because

27:10

that lawsuit basically

27:12

would force the Chinese parent company,

27:14

ByteDance, to sell the app or face

27:17

a national ban. The president

27:19

signed legislation in April that gives

27:21

ByteDance nine months to find

27:23

a buyer. And on that note, they are lined up

27:25

and going around the block right now for

27:28

this popular short form video

27:30

app and a three month extension if

27:32

a deal is in progress. Now, what's

27:34

at hand? Well, if you listen to TikTok

27:36

and its Chinese advocates, paradoxically,

27:39

this is going to be, from their vantage point,

27:41

a First Amendment issue versus

27:43

national security. Oh, Craig, what

27:45

a fascinating conversation. Okay, counselor,

27:48

break this down. First of all, talk to me

27:50

for people. I don't use TikTok.

27:52

Never have, never will because I'm not interested

27:54

in kind of just handing stuff over to the Communist

27:56

government. I don't know, maybe it's me, but no,

27:58

I'm not interested in the PLA or the CCP

28:01

and I'm, you know, meanwhile, our conversation

28:03

with Bill Gertz earlier this week where they're digging

28:06

around in the ocean trying to come up with neurotoxins

28:08

in their biological warfare, I don't think I'm going

28:10

to give them any more information by way of TikTok,

28:12

but it's a very popular

28:14

app, and people have either a they're

28:16

either ignorant to the fact that communist China

28:19

sits on the other side of that happy device you're holding

28:21

in your hand, or they choose to look the

28:23

other way. So why did the

28:25

federal government suddenly weigh in on this?

28:27

Why did the president sign legislation, and

28:29

why are they zooming in on TikTok?

28:32

Well, TikTok is China.

28:34

There's no way. Two bits

28:37

about it. Everything that comes out of China

28:39

in terms of technology and

28:41

technology companies and

28:43

allied industries that deal in

28:46

technology and communications,

28:48

uh, the Chinese communist

28:51

government has it's not

28:53

not just its fingers in that pie.

28:55

It owns the pie, it

28:57

carries the pie, and then it requires

28:59

the pie to account back to them on

29:02

what it's doing and who's eating it. So

29:04

that's the integral relationship

29:06

between Beijing and

29:08

any company, any enterprise,

29:10

particularly technology companies, because China

29:13

has determined and

29:15

this is not new news,

29:17

it's old news going back to

29:19

before the turn of the into the 21st

29:21

century that China wanted hegemony.

29:24

It wanted it not only militarily,

29:27

it wanted it economically, and it wanted

29:29

it in terms of technology and communications. So

29:32

thus it has been, that is to

29:34

say, uh, Communist China has been

29:36

stealing our technology, uh,

29:38

for years. It's a huge problem

29:40

in terms of, uh, corporate espionage

29:43

and China stealing

29:46

intellectual property and

29:48

copyright and patent information from

29:50

companies in the United States and then profiting

29:52

from it illegally. And it's been going

29:55

on for a number of years. So

29:57

every company that comes out of China

29:59

is controlled by China. That's

30:02

an established fact. ByteDance.

30:04

Is the founding company,

30:06

the parent company for TikTok. TikTok

30:08

is a little bit like the name Facebook,

30:11

which is now owned by meta, but it's still

30:13

Mark Zuckerberg, right? Who controls all

30:15

the strings so you can call it anything you want

30:17

to. It all goes back to Mark Zuckerberg.

30:19

Well, it all goes back to the communist China.

30:22

Uh, control over ByteDance, the

30:24

founding company for TikTok.

30:26

This social media platform that's trying to challenge,

30:29

um, Facebook. So,

30:31

uh, what's the big problem? Well, the big problem

30:34

is that the data that gets culled by

30:36

these social media companies is

30:38

available to the social media companies and

30:40

to those other companies with which they

30:42

do business, and therefore

30:45

yours, mine, everyone

30:47

else's data, personal information,

30:50

uh, our financial status,

30:53

uh, where we bank and so forth, our credit

30:55

card information all could potentially

30:58

end up in the hands of Beijing,

31:00

including, of course, not

31:02

just individual American citizens,

31:05

but also being able

31:07

to get into the, uh, the

31:09

cyber infrastructure of federal

31:11

agencies could also be used

31:14

for espionage purposes to find

31:16

out what our agencies are talking about.

31:18

China, before the news

31:20

finds out what's being discussed about China.

31:22

Can I ask at this point, is that not why the federal

31:24

government last year said that they were banning

31:26

the use of TikTok by federal employees, and.

31:28

That's where it started. They said, first, we

31:30

don't want spies in our federal

31:32

agencies and our defense, uh,

31:34

establishment, uh, peeking

31:37

into what we're saying about

31:39

our future military plans and

31:41

so forth. So, uh, obviously

31:43

that's a national security interest that

31:46

has the highest, uh, protected

31:49

standard that you can have in terms of the mission

31:51

of the national government. Our federal government

31:53

has as its highest priority the

31:55

protection of our nation,

31:58

our sovereignty and

32:00

protection from countries that

32:02

mean to do us harm. China is

32:04

one of those nations. They are not a friend.

32:07

They are an enemy. They're not even a frenemy.

32:09

So, uh, that

32:12

started the process of

32:14

rethinking. Do we really want TikTok

32:17

in the United States being used

32:19

by United States citizens? So here's what

32:21

happened under the Trump administration,

32:23

uh, President Trump signed one

32:26

executive order that attempted,

32:28

uh, to accomplish what Congress

32:30

just did. Uh, one federal

32:33

judge ruled that it was

32:35

unconstitutional, that immediately,

32:37

without appealing that I recall,

32:40

the Trump administration said, okay, I

32:42

think we can find a better legal basis

32:44

for it. And they went to, uh,

32:46

like a defense authorization framework

32:49

rather than the framework that they use for the EO

32:51

in the first place. That one

32:53

led to mediation and discussions

32:56

and negotiations with TikTok. And

32:58

so, in other words, they backed him against the wall

33:01

when, uh, President Biden

33:03

was elected after going

33:05

into the white House, President Biden then

33:07

rescinded that EO

33:10

of President Trump and

33:12

then put everything back on the table. So

33:14

all the chess pieces were cleared from

33:16

the board. TikTok was still an operative,

33:19

uh, company. But Congress said, now, wait

33:21

a minute. This is a dangerous, dangerous,

33:23

uh, connection between TikTok, China,

33:26

Beijing, its military, its

33:28

surveillance of the United States and

33:30

American users. So

33:32

first they said no, no federal

33:35

employees can use TikTok. And then

33:37

Congress said more than that. Here's

33:39

the deal. And this law now

33:41

is not an executive order from the white House.

33:43

It's the people.

33:44

It's the people through Congress saying,

33:46

you have nine months

33:48

TikTok to get a buyer,

33:51

to buy out your company

33:53

into entirely American

33:55

hands, or you'll

33:57

be banned from the United

33:59

States.

34:00

Now, can I point out two things? Number one, it

34:02

was bipartisan. So you make you're

34:04

accurately representing that it was the people both

34:06

sides of the aisle. You need to underscore in

34:08

a very.

34:08

Divisive Congress, right. They all

34:11

both sides of the aisle and the middle as well,

34:13

all agreed this was a problem. And here's

34:15

the solution.

34:16

Here's the other question that I have that ByteDance,

34:19

which is the parent company, is based in Beijing.

34:22

So if you look at a communist repressive

34:24

regime where the First Amendment is the last

34:26

thing they subscribe to believe in protected

34:29

hands or allow the people to exercise, why

34:31

did they get First Amendment rights allegedly

34:33

under their proposed litigation, if

34:35

they're not even based in the United States because

34:37

they.

34:38

Operate in the United States? Look, I've read

34:40

the complaint, the lawsuit

34:42

complaint that was filed, I

34:44

was underwhelmed by it. And I will

34:46

tell you.

34:47

On behalf of TikTok.

34:48

And I was underwhelmed by their their

34:50

legal arguments for a

34:52

justification that somehow the First Amendment was

34:54

violated by this congressional act.

34:57

For instance, they I think it was on page

34:59

three that early in the complaint,

35:01

they cite a dissenting opinion

35:03

from a 19. 1919 Supreme Court

35:05

decision. Well that's irrelevant. 1919 Oliver

35:08

Wendell Holmes dissented in a case

35:10

in 1919. So he he was

35:12

on the losing side of that, and they quoted

35:14

the loser, well, I think this lawsuit

35:16

is a loser in that 1919

35:19

case, the Abrams case, the majority

35:21

of the court held that the United

35:23

States Espionage Act could

35:25

be constitutionally enforced by those

35:28

that were trying to eradicate

35:30

our ability to fight World War One

35:33

in terms of our our factories and

35:35

the munitions factories

35:37

that were producing our armaments and the ability

35:40

to fight World War One, forget whether it was a

35:42

good war or a bad one. That's certainly

35:44

a national security interest of the highest order.

35:46

The Supreme Court held it. They said First Amendment

35:49

rights have to bow to that, whatever First Amendment

35:51

rights were involved. The same thing here.

35:53

But here's the irony. I read this complaint.

35:55

They admit in the complaint they,

35:58

that is to say, TikTok and bite

36:00

dance. They admit that red China

36:02

has a veto over

36:04

whatever TikTok does about what

36:06

they call their source code. That's

36:09

all the nitty gritty code

36:11

that any TikTok user

36:14

is identified in that source code.

36:16

So in other words, they're censoring while complaining their

36:18

First Amendment rights are violated.

36:19

Beijing says, we hold control.

36:22

We have the veto power over where you can

36:24

allow your source code to be given to anybody

36:26

else. So Beijing has the last

36:29

laugh and the last vote. How much clearer

36:31

could it be that China owns

36:34

TikTok and that therefore

36:36

it's a national security problem? Therefore,

36:39

this congressional act either divest

36:41

yourself and sell it or you're going to be banned.

36:43

Yeah, I think it's constitutional.

36:44

I have several more questions because I think this is important,

36:47

and it's interesting to hear the caterwauling

36:49

coming from a repressive regime. And

36:52

not only that, but I want to talk about China saying,

36:54

basically, it isn't just us, it's millions of Americans

36:56

we're fighting for back after this. So

37:02

this has kind of been the Law Hour with Craig Parshall,

37:04

which, by the way, if you listen with any regularity,

37:07

tends to happen very, very often. So we started

37:09

at the U.N. with this legally,

37:12

um, indefensible move by

37:14

the U.N. to sort of give

37:16

the nation of Palestine, which does not

37:18

exist. It's an existential question.

37:21

Uh, the observer state status. So they're

37:23

pretending it's a state when it's not a state. And what

37:25

it is in reality is a terrorist organization.

37:27

And if you were with us from the start of the broadcast,

37:29

you heard the Israeli ambassador

37:31

shred a charter of

37:33

the U.N., basically saying that their move today

37:35

shreds the idea behind the establishment

37:38

of the United Nations. And he's spot on, by the way,

37:40

to which I will use a Yiddish term that took a

37:42

lot of chutzpah for him to stand up and to make

37:44

that declaration in front of that body. But

37:47

come to Israel and you'll understand that a lot of Israelis

37:49

have to have chutzpah, because it's a country

37:51

that was built with the shovel in one hand and the rifle

37:53

in the other. They've been under assault since 48.

37:56

I mean, very shortly after Israel

37:58

was established in 48. Boom. They were coming after

38:00

him. So we pray for the nation of Israel

38:02

on a regular basis. So then we move

38:04

now to the intersection between communist

38:07

China and Beijing based ByteDance

38:09

and its subsidiary TikTok, which is used by

38:11

millions of Americans in another farcical

38:14

dance. Where they're going, they

38:16

were this was bipartisan legislation,

38:18

not an executive order. And I wonder I want to

38:20

underscore this. So this isn't one man in

38:22

the Oval Office putting an executive order. And as

38:24

Craig gave the history, you see how executive

38:26

orders come and go depending on the resident

38:28

of the Oval Office legislation is a whole

38:30

nother animal. So now this is the people

38:32

speaking through their elected officials. Bipartisan

38:34

support basically said, you're out of here

38:36

and you get nine months to sell it. And

38:38

we're going to say that this is a problem

38:40

because we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that sitting

38:43

in Beijing is this opportunity for them to cull

38:45

all kinds of information, which makes this a national

38:47

security issue. Again, harkening back to my

38:49

conversation with Bill Gertz. What is wrong with

38:51

us? China says declaratively

38:54

global domination, hegemony.

38:56

And they're doing it bit by bit

38:58

by bit, from fentanyl to biotoxins

39:01

to the build up of their military, particularly their nuclear

39:03

warheads. And we're just kind of whistling past

39:05

the graveyard, ignoring them. Except we

39:07

didn't in this case, which is extremely important.

39:09

But the paradox is China now comes back

39:12

in suing the United States, basically saying,

39:14

we're not going to have a buyer because the buyer

39:16

has to be there in place by January

39:19

19th, 2025. And

39:21

with the lawsuit, which Craig has read, alleges,

39:23

is that this the question of

39:25

this act would undoubtedly silence

39:28

the 170 million Americans

39:30

who use the platform to communicate

39:33

in ways that cannot be replicated anywhere

39:35

else. If you've ever seen some of the stuff

39:37

on TikTok, it doesn't need to be replicated,

39:40

but but just capstone and then you take it apart,

39:42

counselor, that what they're doing is now

39:44

they're using the American people as a ruse

39:46

for their what communists do.

39:49

They're using the American people as a ruse to

39:51

protect them, to be able to continue to

39:53

steal data from people by way

39:55

of this platform. So

39:57

170 million Americans

39:59

saying, look, it's our First Amendment rights, and we're

40:02

saying in the United States, no, it's a national security

40:04

issue. So what's going to happen, Craig?

40:06

And I want to know who's going to represent them.

40:08

Is their lawyer going to come from Beijing

40:10

and yet practice American jurisprudence?

40:12

This is going to be an interesting one to watch. You know.

40:14

I'm looking at paragraph 29 of this lawsuit.

40:17

This is this is my husband, by the way. Okay.

40:19

This is Tok. This is Tik Tok

40:21

arguing through their lawyers. Right. Why

40:24

they're not a threat. In

40:27

essence, you know, this is unconstitutional.

40:29

And by the way, we're not a threat. And this is free speech.

40:32

We're just nice guys. Yeah.

40:33

We just want to give people their opportunity

40:35

to, you know, have cat videos and stuff like

40:37

that and, you know, say hello to their friends on

40:39

on our social platform. Paragraph

40:42

29, the Chinese

40:44

and I'm quoting from them, quote, the

40:46

Chinese government has made it

40:48

clear it would not permit

40:51

a divestment. It

40:53

would not permit a thank

40:55

you. In other words, they're saying, yeah,

40:58

the communists won't let us do it anyway.

41:00

So therefore, uh, judge,

41:03

this is a problem because we.

41:05

Got President XI telling us that we

41:07

can't.

41:07

Do this. Well, no, the bigger problem is if China

41:10

has the veto power over you, you

41:12

you really are owned by Communist China. Okay?

41:14

So this gets got a whole lot more interesting because

41:16

we do, as Bill Gertz and I were talking earlier

41:19

this week. Go back to our archives if you want to hear this whole

41:21

program. It was a fascinating conversation.

41:23

He was with us first hour on Wednesday, just

41:25

as a point of reference. First, our Wednesday, the entire

41:27

hour. Bill Gertz all on China. So

41:29

we know exactly the nefarious

41:32

games they played with the Covid pandemic.

41:34

And so basically, President XI already thinks

41:36

he's got global domination. So he's basically

41:38

saying, I don't care what you say in the United States

41:40

Congress, they're not going to be allowed to

41:42

sell the company because I said so. And by the

41:44

way, President XI Bill Gertz shared with us

41:47

with the buck stopped right at the top of his

41:49

desk, where he basically said, sit on the story

41:52

about Covid coming out from the lab. So

41:54

thank you, President XI.

41:55

And let's talk about what's good for the goose is good for

41:57

the gander, as they say, uh, years

41:59

ago when Google started

42:01

expanding. And, you know, we

42:03

all think Google's been around for,

42:05

you know, half a century. No not true.

42:08

They're pretty. They're still a new,

42:10

uh, invention in terms of their search engine.

42:13

But in the early years, they

42:15

found a huge market over in communist

42:17

China. So when Google established

42:20

themselves over in China, they

42:22

had to agree with

42:24

Communist China and Beijing

42:27

regulators that they

42:30

would institute a censoring

42:32

system for whatever the

42:34

communist Chinese government wanted

42:37

removed from their search engine.

42:39

So?

42:40

So Google bowed and acquiescence immediately.

42:42

And then it came under a great deal of

42:45

fire from a lot of critics, rightfully

42:47

so, saying, wait a minute, you're

42:49

selling. I mean, Americans are investing

42:52

in Google and we're helping build

42:54

you because in America we're using your search

42:56

engine, and yet you're bowing to

42:58

a Chinese, uh, totalitarian

43:01

government over there that crushes

43:03

the very idea of freedom and liberty and free

43:05

speech. So

43:07

Google then withdrew, but,

43:10

uh, the Chinese government was suppressing

43:12

Google over there. But we can't

43:14

decide that. We don't want Tic-Tac

43:16

over here.

43:18

TikTok, by the way, according to the Wall Street Journal,

43:21

their ad sales. And by the way, TikTok is telling

43:23

their advertisers, don't worry about it. It's all going

43:25

to be good. Apparently.

43:27

Uh, TikTok sales in the

43:29

US are expected to grow 31% this

43:31

year to 8.7 billion.

43:34

That is, with a B, uh,

43:36

the platform is investing heavily

43:38

to build out a shopping feature

43:41

that could potentially rival Amazon.

43:43

Well, Jeff Bezos, you better get the memo on that

43:45

one. And, uh, users buying and selling

43:47

items directly on the platform. So

43:50

I know you don't like to predict because

43:52

that's just the way you are, but I'm going to ask you,

43:54

in this case, what do you think's going to happen? Because this is

43:56

really this is giants.

43:58

This is the battle of the Titans here. This is going to be interesting.

44:01

Yeah I look I

44:03

can't say the entire act is all

44:05

portions of the act are going to be upheld

44:07

as constitutional. But I think there's a good chance

44:10

that the core idea of

44:12

Congress saying that you must

44:14

divest within

44:16

a certain period of time for purposes

44:18

of national security and

44:21

data protection and privacy,

44:23

I think, will be upheld.

44:26

Interesting. Okay. We'll watch this one, because

44:28

that's a short kind of window for this litigation.

44:30

And Craig, I think we'll probably talk about it a time

44:32

or two here on Fridays. By the way. We do this for another

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