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Hi,

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I'm Chelsea Clinton and this season on in

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fact, we've been celebrating Women's History

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Month, and since a month is never enough,

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We're keeping it going a little longer. I'm talking

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with trailblazing women at the top of their fields

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about their personal journeys, the progress women

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have made, and how far we still have to go. Today,

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I am thrilled to be talking about music

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and motherhood with award winning singer,

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songwriter, actress, and producer Kelly

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Rowland. There's no question

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women have made some inroads in the music industry

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in recent decades, but the fact is

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it still remains remarkably male dominated.

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A study of Billboard's Top one hundred showed

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that from

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women made up only of artists,

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of songwriters, and only three percent of

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producers. So what does gender

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inequity feel like from inside the

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industry? Well, if anyone knows,

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it's Kelly. Her first taste

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of the business was back She

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was only twelve years old when she and Beyonce

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competed as part of the group Girls

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Time on the TV talent competition show

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Star Search. Hard as it is to believe,

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they came in second, but the group

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evolved into Destiny's Child which

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with the addition of Michelle Williams, would go on to

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become one of the best selling female groups of all

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time. Kelly has won three Grammys

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with Dustiny's Child and another as a

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solo artist for a collaboration with Nellie

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and Today she's a platinum

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certified recording artist with over forty

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million records sold, and she doesn't

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shy away from tackling serious issues in

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her music, from gun violence, to beauty

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standards to racism. Kelly

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has been a judge on The X Factor, a

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coach and adviser on one of my personal favorites,

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The Voice, and she also just served

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as the celebrity ambassador for the Disney

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Dreamer's Academy, a four day event

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designed to inspire and empower

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high school students. As you'll

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hear, becoming a mom to sons Titan

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and Noah had a profound impact on Kelly

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and how she views her life and her work. She's

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written a guidebook for new moms called whoa

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Baby, and her first children's

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book, written with Jessica McKay, will be coming out

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later this month. It's called Always with You,

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Always with Me, and it's a tribute to working

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mothers Ketley.

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I'm so excited and grateful

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to have the chance to talk with you about

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your story and your

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thoughts on being a woman artist,

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a woman in the music industry. But

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I thought we could maybe start from

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when you were a kid and you could just

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share, like what first drew you

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to music and did you always want

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to have a life in music? From

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as early as I can remember,

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I've always loved music. It really started

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with another woman, which is Whitney Houston.

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And I saw her singing and she

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was funny enough singing in the National anthem

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and I just not an easy song

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to sing, not an easy song to say,

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not at all. But she was

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just electric and

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just so powerful, and she

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also made it look so easy and effortless

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at the same time. And it was the way

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she sang every note. It was how much

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she was into it. And it was

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the fact that when I sang in the choir, like I

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just felt so alive and just

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singing and music just made me feel like there

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was something just racing in my body. So

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I just was drawn and I've

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always loved it. So did you have

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female teachers or mentors

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when you were growing up who really helped translate

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that dream into the kind of skills

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and the abilities that you would

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need to realize it. As

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far as belief goes, it was my

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mother. There was this TV show

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on when I was growing up called Amen, and

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there was a gospel singer who sang the theme

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song. And every time that song came on, my

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Mama would say, sang Baby, Okay, let's

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go here, come your song. Let's go, baby, say your

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song. So it was that it was

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the support that I got from her and putting

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those into practice

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and art. It would be the choir

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director at a church that I went to

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in Atlanta, Georgia is

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Ra Baptist Church. I'm so sad, I can't

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think of her name. And

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then it was my elementary

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school teacher, ms Ethridge. You're making me

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think, girl. And it was Tina

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Tina knows lawson Beyonce his

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mother. It was being around those

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other young ladies because we were

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each other's peers at that time, and we were listening

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and probably having energy bounced around

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between us. So wow, she can hit

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that note, Well, let me try it. You know. It was having

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a lot of women, of course around me, and

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I feel like we were wanting greatness

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from each other. It is moving

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to me to hear you talk about the choir director

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and the teacher, as well as your

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mom and your friend's mom, because

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I think so often we look

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at people who have accomplished so much

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and it seems inevitable, and

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yet we all have been helped on our

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journey, whether we've been mentored

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or sometimes pushed, and

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I think that it's our responsibility

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as women to continue

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to push each other. In the past, society

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has done the complete opposite

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and just pushed women away from each

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other or put them against each

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other. And I think that's the

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reason why they did that, because they knew how

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powerful we would be. So

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many of the people

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on the business side of the

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music and entertainment industry are men, and

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yet so many of our icons

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are are women. When

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you were starting out, did you have

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a moment where you looked around and you were like, Wow, there's a lot

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of men here. Yes,

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yes, I did, and it seemed like they

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were all just winning, and they

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were all doing so

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much, you know, behind

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the scenes. You know, I kept singing all these

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men in such high positions

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like executives and such at like

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labels, and I was like, where all the women

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where are we we deserve

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that? See, you know, we we should sit

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there. And when I would start seeing women come

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up, I would just get so excited.

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I remember the first time I met a female

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producer was Destiny's Child's very first

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album and she was

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making the music in the studio and

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that was the first time seeing female

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producer, and how empowering

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that was. But here's the thing. She was also

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pregnant. So she's making the beads

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and she got pregnant. Oh my god.

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But it was like and we kept just looking

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at her and such all because I was like, we can

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do it all well, and you certainly have done

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it all. Do you think the industry has gotten

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more inclusive of women over

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the years or has not much changed? It's

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had to, Yeah, but I will

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say I'm watching it. I would like

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to see more of it. It's still slow. We

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have to speed up the pace of change, and I think

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that we do that by supporting each other. Well,

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and you've collaborated with a lot of women

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in your work. How important has

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it been to you to work not only

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with artists with whom you resonate,

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but also artists with whom you resonate

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who are women. That's the number

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one thing for me. I think Destiny's

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Child definitely made that

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I must to be honest, and

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Beyonce and Michelle are just

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exceptional. But when it

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comes to working with other women,

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I'm always thinking about that first. So

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it's not an accident that you've worked with like Missy

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Elliott or Solage or Eve exactly.

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They're amazing, they're women, they're

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talented. How do we make space for

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the next artists to come through, or the

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next like author to come through, the next whoever

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to come through. But it's seeing them and all

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of their greatness and wanting to be a

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part of that, wanting to feel what

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that magic feels like together, because it is

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magical. There are some

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people who think art

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should never be political or should

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never be serious, and

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you've tackled a lot of issues in

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your music that are

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serious and affect millions

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of people in our country, whether depression

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or bullying, gun violence.

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Why is it important to you that

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your music not shy away from those

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quote unquote more serious issues

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because it wouldn't be human.

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I feel like it should all be tangible, it should all

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be stories. You should be as honest

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and authentic as

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you can possibly be. And

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those are real stories that you tell that you

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should be telling. And

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if you're thinking those thoughts and your

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feelings, certain things in your heart and your

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soul and it's just things that you feel

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like you have to get out. That

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means that somebody else is thinking the same

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thing or going through the same thing. And how

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do we evolve and become better if

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we're not sharing our stories in

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a way that is a song, a

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way that is poetry, a way that is a

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movie, a way that is a podcast. You know what

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I mean, Like it's a must. You

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know, you have shared stories in so many different

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media, I mean music, but also on

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screen and through books. Right in your book whoa

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Baby, which definitely was, like you

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very much about about being a mom. So

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I'm curious, when you became

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a mom, why was it important to you to

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write a book that was geared towards other moms,

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Like what stories were really important for

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you to share and for you to bring out

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into the world. So

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when I became a mom, everything

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changed, My life genuinely

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changed. And with whoa Baby,

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I remember reading what

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to Expect when expecting, and I

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was steady exactly and I

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remember being so ready for everything,

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but it was what happened

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afterwards I wasn't ready for. I was like,

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wait, where is that book? I need to

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know what is happening? Is there a book

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on this? What's going on in a girlfriend? I

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was like, Oh, there's no book about that, And

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so I said, let's go

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and literally wrote the book and asked

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my o b Jan, asked a stylist,

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girlfriend, a nutritionist. I asked

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all these people about what happens,

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and I talked about my own story and

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I just felt like it had to be honest. And

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then when it came to being

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a working mom and

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moving and going place to place

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all the time and having to leave the kids

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and those emotions where I was like,

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I'm to write another one. And I met

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another woman, Jessica McKay,

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who actually was like, Yo, I have

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this really cool book idea. And Jessica

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and I started talking and next and we

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knew this book just started

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to build a life of its own, and

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it just started to talk about all the things that I

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wanted time to understand and even

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gave me emotions that I was understanding

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and missing him because I think that sometimes

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kids think that they're the only ones

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in the position of like, I really

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want to be next to you, I miss you. I'm I'm

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feeling the same way. So

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with the book, of course, it is always

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with you, always with me, and it's

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all about that. Yeah. I feel that so

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deeply when I'm away and my

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children look at me through FaceTime

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and they're like, where are you, Mama,

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Like why aren't you here? And

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I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to be

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there, but I'm like, don't cry,

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don't cry. That's the exactly

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exactly. I never well, you

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know, he has seen me cry once.

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He has seen me cry over my mother because

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my mother is no longer here on earth. But I've

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said, oh I miss her, and he says

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Grandma. I was like yeah. And then one time,

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because I've told him this before, he

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said she's always with you and

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she's always with me to Mama, and

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I said, okay, beautiful, yeah,

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really beautiful. I know. I think it's such a balance,

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right as mother's showing that honest

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vulnerability and yet also still trying to protect

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them. Absolutely absolutely.

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I am curious. How has

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it been being a working mom and have

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you been able to do

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the work all the work you feel called

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to do? Want to do, want to create in the

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world and be a mom. And has

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the music and entertainment industry

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supported that because historically

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a lot of industries haven't been particularly

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good for pregnant women or

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especially new moms. Yeah,

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well, I think that the

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industry is continuing to evolve

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because everybody's having bases, especially

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during COVID. You know, Cardi bies

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like I'm pregnant. I'm like, I'm pregnant now, Rihanna,

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I'm pregnant. You have no choice but to

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get used to it, which is what I love. And

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I remember before I had tied in, I

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was scared to have a baby because people

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were like, once you have a baby, your career

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is over. Why would you tell a one and that,

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like why would you say your sensuality is

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gone? And I

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have sixty years Like like what are you talking

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about? Exactly? And I'm still

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flying. Don't you ever get a twisted? That's

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literally what I want to tell them. I want to put my

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finger in the face if they don't you ever get it twisted?

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Like I'm always fly Like

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So I think that society

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has done that. But here we are tug

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tug tug and forward, like get

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on or get off. You're either gonna get

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on the train or get off, because we're gonna be fly,

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we're gonna be great, we're gonna have babies,

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and we're going to continue on thankfully.

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As you mentioned, it's not just any one woman

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artist, right. There are lots of women stepping

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forward being honest about their

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truthful selves that being a mother

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or something they want to become. And

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I do think it's probably easier that it's not just one

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woman having to do that. There's a lot of

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really powerful women in the industry, which hopefully then helps

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less powerful women make

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the choices that are right for them too, absolutely,

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because some women will shy away

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from it. I know, like I did. I waited till

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I was thirty three to have

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my first kid, but I was thinking about it

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at But I know some of

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that was the fear of

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all of these things being taken

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away. And I'm just like, I'm so happy

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I did this, and I'm mad that I didn't do it earlier.

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I was like, I want to have one more. We'll

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be right back, stay with us. What

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are the most common questions that

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young women asking.

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What's the most kind of common

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or what do you think the best advice you can give as

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someone at the top of your industry to young

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women looking up for whom You're

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there, Whitney right there, like I want to be

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you when I grew up, And what do you say?

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The questions I'd say I'm

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asked often are always

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about practicing, getting

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better, evolving,

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which is great because I remember

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coming up, we were practicing

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all time, literally

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morning, noon, and night. We were practicing.

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So I have always loved music,

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and I have always never had

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real talent, but thankfully was blessed

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with lots of persistence. So

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I have these vivid memories of like

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being in the church choir and you

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know, being told to like not

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project so much like

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I like then the church WI

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like matters, saying to my parents, like you,

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we really appreciate j'lsey. She comes

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on time. She's very

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sunctual. It's like they had to say, it's something nice

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about me, and I had like no doull it. And

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you clearly were given like the gift from

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God have so much talent, but you have

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nurtured it and you have practiced, and you have worked

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really hard, and I am curious how

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has that practice changed over

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time? I'll say It evolved

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when the girls and I were eleven

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and twelve practicing and rehearsing for Star

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Search. We would practice as

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often as we could because we were in between school,

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and then when we got a record deal, the

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practice was turned up to another gear

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to where it was not just movement,

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it was flexibility. It

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was agility with the voice and like

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trying to stretch our range.

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When we became signed and

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we were getting ready for performances, we were

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rehearsing for like ten and twelve

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hours a day. Then from there it was

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okay, we're getting ready for tour, and tour

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was a whole another animal. As my mother

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would say, like I'll never forget the very last

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tour with Destiny's Child.

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We would rehearse like crazy.

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Then we would perform that evening,

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but we would get the video tapes back

17:13

of the performance so that we could perfect

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it. We would look at it because we saw the way athletes

17:18

would look at their plays every

17:20

game, so we were treating it the way athletes

17:22

would and check out everything. Well, the lightning queue

17:24

is wrong here, Oh well this dancer got this wrong.

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And the funny thing is is

17:29

be was actually like so

17:32

particular about it to where I

17:34

soaked that up from her because she

17:36

was so meticulous about it. So when it came

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to my solo project,

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I was so nervous, to be honest,

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I felt like I wasn't really ready, even

17:46

though you'd already been a professional musician

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or just for years. I know, but

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it was just the idea of doing it alone

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and scared the crap out of me, to be

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honest. So then I

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rehearsed, but it

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it was just different with the girls, and I

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still loved it. And the more comfortable

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I got being by myself, the harder

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I worked in rehearsals. Maybe

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because you knew the hard work was what was giving

18:11

you the comfort and giving you the confidence.

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You're like, oh I need more of that, yes,

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And it was like the freedom and

18:18

the performance was from the rehearsals, if

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that makes any sense, totally, it makes total

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sense to me. So you still practice, right,

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Oh absolutely, That's really powerful

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for people to hear too. It's not like you reach a certain level

18:29

of achievement and you're like, oh, I'm done, I can

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like coast. You're like, no, you have to keep practicing.

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No, you still gotta practice because it's

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an instrument. It's a muscle. You

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still have to use it, you still have to get

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it better. If it's not being

18:43

used, it gets weaker. So voice

18:45

lessons definitely help at least

18:47

once or twice a week. Just makes

18:49

you better and more like an athlete. You can

18:51

move and have more agility. So

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I'd say, never stop practicing and

18:56

never think that you know at all. You should be an

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open book every single a gift

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to always be humble and always be a student.

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And the one that I always get

19:06

is do you feel like you've done it all? You know

19:08

it all? And I'm like, far from it.

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I'm learning something new every day.

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I think that some of the most successful

19:14

people are the most curious and the most humble. Yeah.

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Do you sing for your son? Does he give you feedback?

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Oh? Yes, I

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have my kids read my books and sometimes I'm like, oh

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that was harsh, but thank you, Like

19:28

I'll make that at it. Yeah,

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all right, So

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with always with you, always with me. Titan

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was like, Okay, can you get to

19:39

that part quicker, mom, It's just

19:41

faster, And so I would come back to

19:43

the edit with Jessica and Rhoda

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and they were like I said, Titan said, this party is

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a little long, and they're like, okay, then

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let's make it shorter. So see

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you just wanted to hear I called it the course. I

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was like, it's the course of the book. We have to get

19:56

there faster. They're like, okay, okay, got it.

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One of the things I now

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think a lot about as a parent are the

20:04

different images that you

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know, our children are just assailed

20:08

by around like what is the perfect

20:10

girl or the perfect boy? Or this is what the

20:12

perfect woman looks like or the perfect you

20:14

know man looks like. And I know you've

20:17

really focused

20:19

in some of your music on exploring

20:22

the pressures that particularly young girls

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and young women face about

20:28

looking a certain way or a certain standard of

20:30

beauty. What more would you

20:32

like to see from your industry,

20:34

from other artists in

20:36

that conversation, And how does

20:39

being a mom make you feel

20:42

about continuing that work? Is it more important

20:44

now? Man? Chelsea? Let

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me tell you I wanted

20:48

to be less filtered

20:52

because, like you said, there is no such thing

20:54

as perfect. I think that we can

20:57

awe strap a greatness, but even in greatness

20:59

something things don't turn out perfect, but they

21:01

turn out the way that they're supposed to be.

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And you learn your lesson either way. I

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want to keep talking about authenticity

21:09

and being as honest as you can

21:12

in the moment, because I feel

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like there's some things like whether it's

21:16

played up in music or in pictures

21:19

or in videos. I'm

21:21

like, no, that doesn't really feel

21:24

like that, or nor that doesn't really look like that,

21:26

or you know what I mean. Like even

21:28

my son Titan has this thing where he's like,

21:31

Hi, welcome to my YouTube chat and I'm like, no, man,

21:35

you don't need He's

21:37

seven. He's seven, Chelsea,

21:40

he's seven, And I'm like, we're

21:46

taking a quick break. Stay with us.

22:00

I just want to give you the chance to share anything

22:03

you may want to share about your recent trip to Disney

22:06

and the Disney Dreamers Academy and

22:09

mentoring kids outside of music

22:11

too, in the broader steam

22:13

world or even the more specific stem science

22:15

technology, you know, engineering a math, because

22:18

I think so often people think

22:20

like, oh, I'm at the pinnacle of business

22:22

or publishing or teaching, but I

22:24

can only do this one thing. And you're

22:27

using your experience and

22:29

all that you've learned to help mentor people

22:31

who have different dreams than being

22:33

Whitney Houston or Kelly Rowland when they grow

22:36

up. Well,

22:38

first off, the Disney Dreamers Academy.

22:41

I could not stop crying that whole weekend

22:43

because I watched young

22:46

people have an idea of how

22:48

they saw themselves in the future. And just

22:51

the start of a dream is a

22:53

blessing, you know what, I mean, To even see

22:55

yourself there, to even write it down, to even

22:58

be excited about it and work towards

23:00

that is a big deal. So

23:03

just to listen to all of their stories as

23:05

I talked to so many young people while

23:07

I was there, and it was I want to

23:09

be this type of engineer, and I

23:11

actually want to be this type of teacher and change

23:14

the lives of students by doing this. I

23:16

want to redesign this

23:19

building like it was so many

23:21

different occupational ideas

23:24

like in background and where they wanted

23:26

to be in the future, and how they wanted to change

23:28

the world and why they were going to

23:31

change the world. It was already

23:33

in their brain and they were already

23:35

putting it out there for them to do so,

23:38

so seeing that it was

23:40

being reminded not to ever

23:42

stop dreaming. One last question

23:45

we're asking everyone during Women's

23:47

History Month. Is there one

23:49

statistic or fact or

23:52

story about women in entertainment

23:54

broadly or music specifically, that

23:57

maybe you're thinking about this Women's History Month.

23:59

I'm still thinking about how

24:02

we continue to come together to

24:05

show up for this new generation. The

24:07

way this new generation I know is going to show

24:10

up for us. I

24:12

think that it has to be reciprocated because

24:14

I'm watching them say what

24:16

they're not going to take from,

24:19

whether it's a government or wherever

24:22

they are using their

24:24

power. They're using their voices and

24:26

they're speaking up, and we

24:29

have to be there to support them in

24:31

that space because I think

24:33

that, like I said, the world is continuing

24:35

to evolve, and we

24:37

have to make the space for their voices

24:40

to become even louder and to become

24:42

even more powerful. So

24:44

to me, it's making sure that

24:48

we are speaking up for them, and

24:50

then speaking up for them, we're also speaking up for ourselves

24:52

because they're going to be fighting for us when we

24:54

don't have the energy later to fight

24:57

the way we would like to fight when we were younger. I

24:59

mean, I can't to imagine you're not having energy.

25:02

Oh no, you seem to do everything. I

25:06

will have the energy. I will be right there,

25:08

like a woman who inspires me

25:10

is Jane Fonda, Like I love

25:12

She's amazing. She's amazing,

25:15

She's a powerhouse. I spoke to her

25:17

last year for my podcast because

25:19

I just she's

25:21

amazing, Like she never stops.

25:24

She sees like every new challenge

25:26

is just an opportunity

25:28

to do more and be more,

25:31

and also to support young

25:33

people especially. I mean she's really trying to create

25:36

and in the best sense

25:39

leave space for young people. She

25:42

is and the same of course with Stacey

25:44

Abrams. I remember sitting

25:46

and having a space to speak with Stacey Abrams

25:49

and so many things that

25:51

she wanted to tackle, and I'm like, how

25:54

how are we going to support all of

25:56

this? Like, I'm you ever read her romance

25:58

books? No, she started

26:01

as a romance novelist. I mean she

26:03

also like went to your law school, but and

26:06

like a young lawyer activist, she

26:09

wrote romance novels. Oh I have to

26:11

read these ro miss novels. I mean, you're

26:13

kind of like, oh my gosh that

26:15

it's really like Okay,

26:18

Chelsea, you known hides me up for real now,

26:20

But like another woman who certainly has

26:23

has done more than any I

26:25

think one person would be thought capable

26:27

of and you certainly are similarly

26:29

amazing not perfect be Cau. We talked about how no

26:31

one's perfect, but always being in the pursuit

26:34

of excellence certainly creates a lot

26:36

of excellence to go around. So just

26:38

thank you for all you're doing and thank you for your time today.

26:40

Well, thank you. I feel the same and I'm

26:42

so delighted to talk to you.

26:48

You can find Kelly Rowland on social media

26:51

at Kelly Rowland. Her new children's

26:53

book, Always with You, Always with Me, will

26:55

be out on April. In

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