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Pushkin. Hey,
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it's Jacob Goldstein. I'm one of the executive
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producers of Hot Money, and I'm
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here today with the preview of another Pushkin
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show called deep Cover. In the
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new season of deep Cover, we hear the
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story of two young women living
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on opposite sides of the country who
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went missing at almost the exact
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same time. Seven years
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later, one of the young women resurfaced
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and she was posing as the other
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one. Here's a preview of
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the show. I hope you'll like it. This
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is a story about a young woman who ran
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away from home. At least
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that's how it all started. I think
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people think that I had this master plan and I went out
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and did it, and like, you know, like it's
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not fun, right,
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You're constantly scared, you have no support,
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you have no one to talk to, which is part
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of the reason got so carried
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away. Like if I had just talked to somebody,
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they would have been like this is crazy. Along
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the way, there were plenty of moments where
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she could have stopped running, but
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she didn't. Sort
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of like I got on a train track. There
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was clearly the wrong train track, and like
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my train is running away, and at
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some point you're not thinking crap,
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how do we get off this train track? You're just thinking, crap,
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how do I stop this train from like going
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off the rails? You know, I just
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kept making a horrible decision after horrible decision
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after horrible decision, just
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trying to keep the train from crashing and killing
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me. At that point, we're
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going to come back to this woman and go deep
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into her story, so you'll hear
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more about all of that, But not
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just yet, because this is actually
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a story about not one,
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but two young women who vanished
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at about the same time. The
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two of them were roughly at the same age, but
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in so many other ways they could
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not have been more different. One
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grew up in rural Montana, where
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she was raised in a sheltered, devoutly
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religious home. She was shy
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and kind of a nerd. The
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other was a kind hearted, free spirit
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from South Carolina. She partied
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often and sometimes hung out with a
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rough crowd. They both
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disappeared in nineteen ninety nine.
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Their families searched for them but didn't
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find many clues, and then
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improbably their stories collided
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when a lone investigator got involved
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and quickly became obsessed. I
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think of a situation as a sweater. So
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sometimes you have a loose thread
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and you pull the thread and you get a naught. And
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sometimes you pull a thread and it just keeps
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unraveling, and you just keep falling
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and falling and bulling. This investigator
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was convinced that the fates of these
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two young women, the free Spirit
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and the nerd, were linked, and
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that by solving one of their cases,
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he might also solve the other. Not
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just that, he suspected that one
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of them was a master of deception,
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a highly trained chameleon who
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conned her way into the ivy leagues. He
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began an investigation that ultimately drew
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in the Secret Service, the US
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Marshals, and the Justice Department. The
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media soon got wind of this. Allegations
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of murder, fraud, and espionage
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swirled. Eventually, a
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nationwide manhunt got underway, all
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because of this one investigator and
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his hunch. Now,
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given the gigantic scope of all
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this, you might think that our investigator
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worked for some big city police department
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or a fancy federal agency, or
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maybe even an international outfit like Interpol.
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Nope, he was a small town
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cop who'd just become a detective.
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He didn't have a partner, or for a while
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even a computer. But he was
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doggedly stubborn, almost
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perversely. So I
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just pulled a thread and it just kept
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going and going and going to the whole thing unraveled.
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I get it. I love pulling on threads.
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As a journalist. I've done this so many times,
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pulled and pulled until I have lost
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track of what I was originally looking for
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or whether it was worth it. And sometimes
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most of the time, in fact, it's not.
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But every once in a while
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there's a set of facts it's so irresistibly
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curious that I just can't let
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go. And
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I suppose it doesn't matter whether you're
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a journalist or a detective or
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just a nosy neighbor. So
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many of us believe that great mysteries
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lurk in the periphery of our lives. So
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when we find an especially curious thread,
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we keep pulling because we won't
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be satisfied until we've unraveled
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at all. I'm
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Jake Alburn, and this is
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deep Cover Season three,
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Never Seen Again, Episode
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one, The Dark Corner.
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The detective that I told you about. His
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name is John Campbell, and he's
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just about the friendliest guy I've ever met. He
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has whispy brown hair and a boyish
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grin. He wears a pair of those wraparound
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sunglasses that dads always wear a
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little league practice. He's also
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got this goofy and totally lovable
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laugh that he breaks into all
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the time. So not an old
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timey lawman. In fact, one
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of the first things that he tells me is that he
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doesn't care for guns. When I retire,
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I can't wait to put this in a drawer. I mean, this is
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a this is the thing I banged my elbow
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on all the time. So
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it's not about carrying a gun. I carry gun because
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we have to. I'd rather be like Andy Griffiths and
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just be sharing for that a gun. I
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met John Donnan Traveler's Rest, South
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Carolina, where he lives. This,
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by the way, was also the hometown of the
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free spirited young woman that I told you about,
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one of the two that went missing back
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in the early two thousands, when our story
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really starts. John was the
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town's loan detective. I
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asked him what this was like. He told
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me that back then this was truly
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a sleepy backwater. Travel's
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Rest was almost a dry town. We
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had one bar and one liquor store,
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and the liquor store closed I think at eight
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or nine o'clock at night. The bar closed
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at midnight, and we rolled up the
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streets and the only problems we ever
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had was at the bar, and so
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we could shut the bar down two or three times. Took their
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license. Outside of town, well,
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that was a different story. The
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thickly wooded slopes quickly rose
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into the peaks of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
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The land was steep and craggy. Some
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called it the Dark Corner. For
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generations it was known as a place where
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mountain folk brewed moonshine and
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lived by their own rules mountain
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justice. By the
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nineteen nineties, that had begun to change.
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Newcomers were arriving, retirees
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and the like, but the Dark Corner
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remained a place where it wasn't wise to venture
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at night or turned down a road you didn't
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know. I talked
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to one local who told me he once
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found a great big log blocking the road
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with a stack of dog skulls on it,
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and then he just knew better
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turn around. John
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says that occasionally the mountain folks
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would just show up at John's
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office and hear this roar of a truck would
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come in and people would pile out, and they'd say,
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we're looking for the law, you know, and Mountain
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Justice had failed and they had to come to
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into town to find some
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law enforcement. For the police and
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Traveler's Rest. The key was
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basically to secure the town's perimeter.
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So I called Travelers Rest of the circle of
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Wagons. So we had seven square miles
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that was like a circle of wagons in our little
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town, and we kept all the crime out of our
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little circle out into the county,
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bushed it out. Wait, so your job was basically
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just like make sure that the criminals
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stayed out of the circle. Yeah, pretty
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much. Did you ever like like tell
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guys like not in here, you're on the yea what
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you say? This is our town? Oh?
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Take that up to the mountains. John says,
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this strategy it worked. Not
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much happened in the way of major crime in
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Traveler's Rest. But then
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one day something rather
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sinister happened in this small town,
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something that broke the humdrum rhythm
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of daily life. A twenty
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year old girl went missing. Her
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name was Brooke Henson. She
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vanished from within the town's limits,
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inside the circle of Wagons and
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her disappearance would ultimately send
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John Campbell on an epic
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quest. It would
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become a huge case, a national
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case, and John, the
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small town detective who hated
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carrying a gun, would be at
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the center of it all.
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