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Previously on Hot Money, we
1:00
discovered how do You Bui became the perfect
1:03
place for the supercartel to come together. This
1:07
time, I want to take you back to Dublin to
1:09
Lower Baggert Street. It's a smart
1:11
neighborhood close to the city center, filled
1:14
with Grand Georgian houses. It's
1:16
April twenty sixteen and Irish
1:19
detectives have received a tip off one
1:21
of the apartments on the street is a Kinahan
1:24
Hotel safe house. But
1:26
when they get there they find someone else.
1:28
A guy with a big belly speaking broken
1:31
English. He's got some designer
1:33
shoes, a bunch of fancy watches
1:35
and several IDs, each with
1:38
a different name.
1:39
You know, here's this guy who had
1:42
a number of identities.
1:45
Shamus Boland, chief superintendent
1:47
in the Irish Police.
1:49
He was arrested for a possession of
1:51
false documents and there was no
1:53
certainty about his identity at all. It's
1:56
following his arrest and US
1:59
issuing an assistance request
2:02
across Europe that within a
2:04
number of errors, the Dutch police were
2:06
in touch with US and they identified him from
2:08
the fort of graphs on fingerprints and
2:11
senior Dutch police officers bordered a
2:13
plane immediately and flew to Dublin.
2:16
The Dutch police scrambled to get to island
2:18
because the man they find in the flat is
2:20
a murder broker who's a top enforcer
2:23
for members of the Supercartel. He's
2:25
the one who police suspect arranged
2:28
the murder we heard about in episode one,
2:30
a contract killing taken out on a
2:32
man hiding from the Iranian regime
2:35
and living undercover in our mayor ali
2:37
Ma Thummad. When I heard
2:40
about this, I first started to see what ali
2:42
Ma Thummad's death might reveal about
2:44
the transformation of international organized crime,
2:47
because it raised a big question, how
2:49
did a Dutch criminal working with a cocaine
2:52
supercartel get mixed up in a murder
2:54
that seems to have been ordered by Iran.
2:57
At this stage, no one can prove the link
2:59
to Iran. We still don't know who gave
3:02
the murder broker his orders. There's
3:04
no smoking gun, but
3:07
something is quietly happening in a high
3:09
tech unit of the Dutch police that's about
3:11
to blow the case wide open. It's
3:14
the start of something huge, a breakthrough
3:16
that will make the global criminal underworld
3:19
shudder. I'm
3:25
Miles Johnson and this is Hot Money
3:27
the New Narcos episode
3:29
five Nerds Versus
3:32
Narcos. Last
3:55
time, we heard about how the supercartel
3:57
are ramping up their operations from Dubai.
4:00
European police can't touch them there, and
4:02
their huge criminal operations back home
4:04
are booming in
4:07
the Netherlands. The ripples have started to reach
4:09
Paul Veroks.
4:10
The first five weeks, I didn't tell anyone.
4:12
I didn't even tell my girlfriend. I
4:14
was trying to get the heat away.
4:18
Remember Paul, he's the crime reporter
4:20
with the leather jacket and the gold hoop hearing, the
4:23
guy who likes to meet with gangsters in public
4:25
places like bars and coffee shops.
4:28
It's Paul who broke the news that the electrician
4:31
killed an al Mayor was actually a man
4:33
on the run from the Iranian regime. But
4:36
one day, Paul gets a different kind
4:38
of tip from a source, and this one's
4:40
about him. He hears
4:42
the group of criminals started to talk
4:44
about him. They
4:46
think he's got information, information
4:49
that links them to several recent gangland killings,
4:52
so.
4:52
They decided to have me assassinated
4:56
so that my information could not reach the
4:58
news or the police.
5:00
I was pretty stunned when I found out about
5:02
the threats to Paul's life. I've
5:05
worked in Italy and I've written about the Italian
5:07
mafia, and I've spent time with state
5:09
prosecutors living under police protection and
5:11
reporters who fear for their lives. But
5:14
a reporter hasn't been killed in Italy for many
5:16
years, and neither has a judge. Now,
5:19
in the Netherlands, one of the richest
5:21
and most politically stable countries in
5:23
the world, organized crimes seem
5:26
to be out of control. More
5:28
and more murders were happening as the top
5:30
kingpins tightened their grip on the drugs
5:32
market and Paul's reporting
5:35
on it, it landed a target on his back.
5:38
At first, he doesn't tell anyone. He
5:40
just keeps trying to figure out what's.
5:42
Going on day by day,
5:44
week by week. The source it provided
5:47
new information.
5:49
So Paul's able to keep safe for now,
5:51
but there's a limit to how long he can go on like
5:53
this.
5:54
I didn't talk to the police about it, and.
5:57
He faces a dilemma. If he tells
5:59
the police, he knows he won't be able to do
6:01
his work. Understandably,
6:03
criminals aren't so keen on meeting a reporter with
6:05
a police escort.
6:07
As a journalist, I needed to stay in the It's
6:10
one of my weapons.
6:12
But he chooses to make a bold move. He
6:14
reaches out to the criminals directly, the
6:16
ones who are after him. He sends
6:18
them a message through an intermediary and
6:20
tells them he knows about
6:22
the threats.
6:24
That's the same the police will do if they
6:26
know about a plan to kill someone,
6:28
they'll go to the guys involved and
6:31
ring the door and tell them we
6:33
know what you're up to, don't.
6:36
It's not long before Dutch law enforcement also
6:38
finds out about the threats and one of Paul's
6:40
police contacts calls them up.
6:42
He told the ball a very bad information,
6:45
but we need to meet now. So I
6:47
told him, let's go to my
6:49
house. I'll arrange some coffee and cookies,
6:51
and then we'll be having
6:54
an uncomfortable discussion because
6:56
you are not going to tell me what you
6:59
know, Indie Deil, and I won't tell you
7:01
what I know, Indie deal pulling.
7:03
The policemen sit down and have a chat over
7:06
coffee and cookies, which is possibly
7:08
the most dartrous repond you can imagine
7:10
to any situation. And it quickly
7:13
becomes clear their information matches.
7:15
Up, and then all
7:17
kinds of a lot of people from the government got
7:19
involved.
7:20
He tries to keep working, but it becomes
7:23
clear that the people who are after him they
7:25
haven't given up.
7:26
And then one day it was clear
7:28
that if we wouldn't leave now,
7:31
we would not be safe anymore.
7:34
Pauland's govern now race to pack their bags
7:36
because they've been told they have to move to a safe
7:38
house, a.
7:39
Very luxurious place, much more luxury
7:42
is than our normal apartment. And
7:44
I was transported like
7:47
the king, quite literally, because
7:49
the same organization that secured me secures
7:52
the king. So I was in a luxury
7:55
but it was like a golden cage because
7:57
I couldn't get out. I couldn't get anywhere
8:00
without a group of people,
8:02
well trained, well armed people
8:05
around me. That's a
8:07
weird way to live and a weird way to
8:09
do your job. But they
8:11
made it possible for me to work. There
8:14
hasn't been one day I've not been working because
8:16
of this.
8:21
And it's not just the threats against Paul. Really
8:24
crazy things start to happen. Criminals
8:27
fire a rocket launcher the offices of a
8:29
Dutch magazine that's been running stories about
8:31
drugs traffickers. No
8:33
one is hurt, but the message is very
8:36
clear journalists and how fair
8:38
game? And if you choose to report
8:40
on us, you're choosing to put your
8:42
life in danger. It's
8:45
sort of like Paul and his colleagues aren't just crime
8:47
journalists anymore. They're on the front
8:49
line covering a full blown attack
8:51
on Dutch society and
8:54
the men behind it all. They
8:56
aren't even in the Netherlands. They're
8:58
in Dubai, living the high life
9:01
and far out of the reach of law enforcement.
9:06
But police are about to make a breakthrough that
9:09
will change everything.
9:19
I really got enthusiastic on
9:21
that day hearing the panic.
9:24
Take a moment to imagine someone who strikes
9:27
terror into the hearts of the world's most
9:29
murderous criminals, and I can guarantee
9:32
you're not picturing Martin. Engbert. Martin's
9:36
slight and softly spoken, thoughtful.
9:39
He has a bit of the air of a tech guy as
9:41
Silicon Valley blue sky thinker
9:44
in a Steve jobstyle black turtleneck.
9:47
Martin is the Dutch public prosecutor for
9:49
high tech crime in twenty seventeen.
9:52
He and his team are working on a secret project,
9:54
one that will turn him into a sort of nerdy
9:57
batman. It all starts when Dutch
9:59
beliefs notice a new gadget showing
10:01
up on the bodies of murdered gang members. They
10:04
all seem to be carrying a particular and
10:06
peculiar type of cell phone.
10:10
They don't have a camera, the camera
10:12
has removed. They don't have a
10:14
microphone. The microphone is removed.
10:17
These phones are useless for calls and they're
10:20
only good for messaging. And the phone
10:22
service runs through specialized companies
10:24
that offer a particular promise to their clients.
10:27
They advertise police
10:30
cannot break the encryption on the phones.
10:33
Back in the days before encrypted messages,
10:35
the criminals were smart, they would meet
10:37
face to face, and if they were stupid, they
10:39
speak on the phone.
10:41
Now, I don't want to say famous,
10:43
but we are well known for
10:45
wired tepping. But the organized crime
10:47
groups know that, so the organized
10:49
crime groups in the Netherlands they don't talk
10:51
about anything on the phone themselves anymore.
10:55
Technology disrupts every business
10:57
sector, and drug trafficking is no different.
11:00
These cryptophones transformed the way
11:02
people run organized crime groups. You
11:05
don't need to be in the same city anymore to send
11:07
an order to an underling. You don't even
11:09
need to be in the same country. You can
11:11
now run a vast and complex drug trafficking
11:13
empire from Dubai without ever getting
11:16
your hands dirty. You can connect with suppliers,
11:18
you can manage your finances, and most
11:20
importantly, you can order murders
11:23
and the police have almost no
11:25
way of seeing what you're up to. Martin
11:29
and his colleagues are determined to figure out a way
11:31
to crack these phones, but they're sort
11:33
of stuck in illegal Catch twenty two.
11:36
Martin is certain that the phones are being
11:38
used by organized criminals, but he can't
11:40
prove it without access to the messages, and
11:43
to get access he needs proof that they
11:45
really are being used for crime. So
11:48
he comes up with a solution. Don't
11:50
go after the criminals, go after
11:53
the phone company. Most
11:55
of the phones are made by a small Dutch supplier
11:58
called Enetcom, and most
12:00
of their servers are in Canada.
12:02
We convinced the Canadian judge that
12:05
there would be evidence on
12:08
those servers proving that Enucom
12:11
was supplying telephones to criminals.
12:14
So one morning, after getting permission from
12:16
a judge, a team from Martin's office get
12:18
on a fly from Amsterdam to Canada.
12:21
I remember a lot of details of the
12:23
day we went to Canada. We
12:26
copied six terrhabytes, which
12:29
seemed a lot of data. So
12:32
everybody was really excited
12:35
because you think we have six terabytes
12:38
of emails, which would be billions
12:41
of messages.
12:43
It's a potentially huge breakthrough, a
12:45
treasure trove of information and evidence,
12:48
but it's all encrypted. There are layers
12:50
and layers of passwords and digital keys,
12:53
and even if they do crack the encryption, Martin
12:56
has another problem.
12:58
And had gone try
13:00
to delete all the information of their clients.
13:03
After two or three days. So
13:05
you receive an email, you read
13:07
the email, you do nothing with the
13:09
email, and then after two or three
13:11
days it will self delete.
13:15
The hackers on the high Tech team get to work.
13:17
They grind late into the night trying
13:19
to break the encryption on the messages. There's
13:22
a lot of trial and error. First,
13:24
the team have to crack the master password,
13:27
and to do that they have to try millions
13:29
of passwords, millions of combinations.
13:32
It takes months, and
13:35
we brute forced the password.
13:37
So we tried a lot of passwords
13:40
and eventually we were able to
13:42
break the password off the
13:44
key surfer and by doing that
13:47
we were able to use the private
13:50
keys. And if you have the private
13:52
key sing you have to encrypt it messengers
13:54
yet down it's easy.
13:56
Martin and his colleagues have prized open
13:59
a vault of evidence about what's
14:01
really going on inside European organized
14:03
crime. They can see how conspiracies
14:06
unfolded minute by minute through
14:08
strings of chats between gangsters. To
14:11
really set the cat amongst the pigeons, Martin's
14:13
team added a little flourish, a sort of
14:16
middle finger to the criminals.
14:18
We send out a message to all the users
14:20
of anetcom. We told them the
14:23
police is now in Canada
14:25
securing all the information
14:28
of your foots, and we
14:30
heard the panic. So in
14:32
an airleance. The panics
14:35
within organized crime groups started
14:37
on that day.
14:39
I've talked about the glimpses we sometimes
14:42
get of organized crime, and
14:44
this it was like turning on a floodlight.
14:48
It sends shock waves to the criminal underworld,
14:51
but it's about to get even worse for them.
14:53
Martin's team soon figure out a way to
14:55
recover the deleted messages, the
14:58
ones that ener common Its users believed
15:00
were gone forever, and
15:02
suddenly a once hidden universe
15:04
of crime, of alliances
15:06
and global connections is illuminated.
15:10
A lot more information about assassinations
15:13
and about the importation
15:15
of drugs.
15:17
But for Martin, there's something even
15:19
more shocking. Reading
15:21
through the messages, the police suddenly see
15:24
how easy it's become to order murders
15:26
using these phones. A crime boss
15:28
can order a contract killing as easily
15:30
as they would order a pizza.
15:32
In an Ellens there were multiple groups
15:35
that you could hire to assassinate
15:37
someone. My work is
15:40
hyder Chrome, so for me it
15:42
was really strange
15:45
to see that there wasn't
15:47
one group or multiple groups
15:49
that you could hire to kill someone.
15:53
And buried inside the millions of
15:55
messages on the enitcom servers is
15:58
one brief conversation from November
16:00
twenty fifteen. It's a
16:02
set of simple and chilling instructions
16:05
sent from one user to another. The
16:08
first message reads, got
16:10
a nice job for you bro. The response,
16:13
who needs to go to sleep? Then
16:17
it's a tug. He works in the electricity
16:19
company and drives a white van. Why
16:22
he has to go to sleep? I don't
16:24
know, and I don't
16:26
even want to know.
16:39
Every murder case deserves a solution, and
16:41
you know people should be brought to justice in Trinal
16:44
but a foreign government, especially
16:47
the country's so dictatorships,
16:49
or the killings in
16:51
another Western country. You know, this is
16:54
a thing.
16:57
We met with Elia in episode one.
16:59
He's the local councilor and our mayor the
17:01
Dutch town where Ali Mtummad was murdered,
17:04
and thanks to Paul's reporting, Ulasse now
17:06
knows that the electrician was in fact a
17:08
man on the run from the Iranian regime. He
17:11
also knows that the people who pulled the trigger
17:14
were Dutch criminals, but he
17:16
still doesn't know who gave them orders,
17:19
who hired them, Ulisa
17:21
has a strong theory though. He
17:24
thinks it has to be the Iranian regime,
17:27
the same regime that forced his father to flee
17:30
Iran decades before, but
17:32
he can't prove it. So Ulasee
17:34
does everything he can to raise awareness
17:37
of the murder. He lobbies local politicians,
17:39
he starts doing radio and TV interviews
17:42
about it, including with the Dutch state
17:44
broadcaster nosdag
17:49
dot Ilon.
17:51
So I was like, Okay, thanks for moving in
17:54
the right direction. I'm getting attention for this
17:57
very important murder case.
17:59
You were kind of going out a little bit on your own saying
18:03
something which sounds like
18:05
a crazy story. You know, as you said,
18:07
it is crazy. It is it is, and
18:09
so was anyone saying you're
18:12
wrong or where's the proof?
18:13
You know. The weird thing in politics is
18:16
the official response you get. It's like,
18:19
we won't tell you anything about
18:21
an individual case. We don't know, there's
18:24
no information, don't bother. I
18:26
was like, I'm not going to take that for an
18:28
answer.
18:29
Because for Uler, say, this is about
18:31
a lot more than just one murder.
18:34
If this is true, what is the implication for
18:36
Iranian people living in the West who fled
18:38
the country and are speaking out, what's the implication
18:41
for them. The key message
18:43
from the regime, it's a message to all
18:45
of Europe, We're
18:48
going to find you because you know, let me emphasize
18:50
this once more. This guy,
18:53
they were looking for him for thirty five
18:55
years.
18:56
So after all of this, you
18:59
were going on you know, TV,
19:01
you were giving interviews, you were you were
19:03
pressing the importance of
19:05
this case and what you thought, what you believed
19:08
based on your evidence,
19:10
and you're thinking about it, what you thought really was
19:12
the case. And then in twenty nineteen, suddenly
19:16
boom boom
19:18
Uleas was shouting about the Matomid murder
19:20
to anyone who would listen. He'd lobbied
19:23
his local mayor, the police, even
19:25
national politicians, and no one
19:27
gave him answers. It felt like
19:29
he was banging his head against a brick wall.
19:32
And then one day.
19:34
And I was in my office working and
19:36
then boom, my telephone like exploded,
19:38
like boom, this Bush messages and
19:40
I was like, finally we're
19:42
doing something back to the regime,
19:45
showing like okay, don't
19:47
do this.
19:48
The Dutch Foreign Minister has announced
19:51
that, based on classified information from
19:53
the Dutch intelligence services, the
19:55
government believes that Iran was
19:57
responsible for the Matomid murder and
20:00
another murder as well.
20:02
I remember his words were like for
20:04
ninety nine percent, for sure we know that Irani
20:06
has did this. It was of
20:08
course we because formerly the minister
20:11
could not conclude officially
20:13
it was d Raniers. But it was
20:15
like ninety nine percent, we know we expelled
20:18
them.
20:19
The expulsion of diplomats. It might sound
20:22
well, a bit diplomatic slap
20:24
on the wrist, but in foreign relations
20:26
this is a big deal, a
20:28
rare move, and for Uda say it's
20:31
his own country, finally agreeing
20:33
that he was right all along, the people
20:35
behind Mtammid's murder were in Tehran.
20:39
These are important moments, but
20:42
then this quite rapidly
20:44
changed to something something
20:48
ugly for me.
20:49
When Unasa does another round of news interviews
20:52
linking Tehran to the Mtummd murder and
20:54
to the murder broker known as Noofel, Novel
20:57
is not happy, and even though
20:59
he's in prison awaiting trial,
21:01
he finds a way to let Ulusay know about
21:04
it. A lawyer working for mister
21:06
now ful Fassi that's Novel's
21:08
full name, files a legal complaint
21:10
against Ulas. He says he's abusing
21:12
his position and making false allegations
21:15
about his client's connections to Iran.
21:17
And I remember, you know, I'm
21:20
sure you can relate this feeling.
21:23
Sometimes unfortunately this happens
21:25
in life. You get really cold and you feel
21:27
the energy flowing from your head to you. It
21:31
just drains your energy. And I got
21:33
really cold, and I was like, okay,
21:36
I know who missed the fuss is.
21:39
It was clear for me this is pure intimidation.
21:42
Like you know, fifteen years ago, people
21:45
through a rock at
21:48
your window. This is the
21:51
modern form of the intimidation. We know
21:53
who you are. Stop talking about this
21:55
connection.
21:57
RELI say, tells the Dutch security services about
21:59
the letter. They decide that his life
22:01
and his family are in danger. So
22:04
Ulas, just like Paul and
22:06
like his own father decades before, is
22:08
now put the police protection. Yeah.
22:11
But then they made one
22:13
mistake. They didn't study my character
22:16
or my family history. So I
22:18
immediately went out to publicly
22:21
and said I will not be intimidated. Go
22:23
to Hell. I will never be intimidated.
22:26
Ulas isn't shutting up because he still
22:28
has too many questions about the murder.
22:30
He knows that now full Fasci novel
22:33
was found in it in a hand safe house in Dublin,
22:36
and that Nophel was the one who arranged
22:38
for Alia mctomma to be murdered. And
22:40
now he knows that the Dutch government
22:43
believes it was Iran who was ultimately behind
22:45
the assassination.
22:46
But someone spoke to mister Fassi.
22:50
I don't know who. It's not like someone
22:52
from Tehran is calling mister Fussy. That's
22:55
not how things work.
22:58
So how do things work? The
23:00
supercartel seems to be connected
23:02
to this murder, but what does that
23:04
connection mean? What links
23:06
these two things together? Looking
23:09
into all of this, pulling on threads,
23:12
I came across a case that might help
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us begin to understand.
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Somehow we established our credibility. At that point,
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she already knew we were high leveled gold claff cours,
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probably multiaton. We have connections
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to the military, which cost
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have developpened the door for us.
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That's next time on Hot Money.
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Hot Money is a production of The Financial Times
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and Pushkin Industries. It was written
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and reported by me Miles Johnson, and
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if you've got any leads or information about this story,
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producer is Peggy Sutton. Edith
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Russello is the associate producer. Fact
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by Sarah Bruguerer, Sound
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design from Jake Gorsky. Jeremy
24:16
Walmsley wrote the original music. Our
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editor is Sarah Nix, and the executive
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Bramley. Special thanks to Laura
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Clark, Marshall, waroven Alistair
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macke, Breen Turner and Arlie Adlington
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