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Welcome to Horror Cinema Obsession. Here, we dive deep into the chilling depths of horror cinema.

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From the critically acclaimed scares, to the laughably ludicrous,

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and even the delightfully obscure.

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Now, let's join our hosts, Richard and Angelus, as they share their love,

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laughs, and sometimes sheer disbelief at the world of horror movies.

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Okay those are cool socks vienna they they hold hands they're magnetic they

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have faces interesting interesting oh hello folks didn't know we were recording.

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Those socks are wild anyways angelus

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my beautiful co-host how are you

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doing novia i'm doing i'm doing okay

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how are you you're doing all right ricardo guys we

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lied on our instagram we didn't record friday night we

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didn't nope that's effing wild we recorded we're recording right now saturday

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evening it's saturday evening yeah it's not fucking wild yeah what did the freaking

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where did the day go i don't know man i don't know how are you i'm good you're good,

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all right well we had an exciting day so far

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we this is a good night capper for us we we had

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your niece's birthday party that was exciting got wet didn't want to get wet

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but it happened it happened you know it felt good it was warm i guess it was

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a beautiful day for a birthday party blazing hot the water park stuff that they

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had in the backyard was cool though that Dragon was awesome,

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and the kids loved that. That was awesome. Yeah.

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Lucas was crazy. He was a dinosaur for half the day.

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That kid was off in his own little world. He has a big imagination. Yeah, that's good.

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Reminds me of when I was a kid. That was all me. I was in my head.

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We got there. I was like, hi. He was like roaring. I was like, okay, cool.

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We were roaring. That was interesting. Interesting birthday party.

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You know that in my thing. Kids birthday parties but i love

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you and i participate consider yourself

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lucky because other girlfriends would not have

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that i would have not shown up what we're talking about

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your exes on the pod nope no weird man no

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i'm just saying that you you i'm going

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above and beyond i'm going to like birthday parties i'm going

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to family outings i'm going to family vacations baby showers

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i'm an introvert man i need my own personal time but i instead i'm dedicating

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all my time with you and your family oh what's up what's up you still have your

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alone time you had your alone time yesterday i know it was glorious it was glorious yeah sorry i was a.

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That's the real reason why we couldn't record last night.

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So I went to work. Usually I don't work that early, but I had to go to work at like 4.30.

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Didn't you pull a 12-hour shift? I don't know. We were done at about 3.

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So it's just getting out there. It's just travel.

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So, yeah. I mean, by the time I got here, I was riding high.

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I was good. I was feeling it. I cleaned the house. I vacuumed. I was pumped.

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But by the time you came hours later, I was toast.

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I was laying there. I was watching my Guilty Pleasure white collar.

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Which, shout out. Dope. On Netflix.

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And then, yeah, I just couldn't muster up the energy. But I'm feeling good now.

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Are you feeling better? Because you kind of had a meltdown, too.

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Yeah, I was tired, stressed. Yeah. That's fine. We'll get by. Yeah, we're getting by. We've got an exciting one tonight, guys.

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Rich's all-time favorite. Yep, we're covering Nightmare on Elm Street,

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a classic, The Goat, but guess what? The Goat, 2010.

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It's the remake. Oh, there's people just like, oh, you fucking piece of shit.

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They're excited about the original.

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Anyways, let's get to it. I mean, Nightmare on Elm Street. Okay,

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before I share my initial thoughts on this movie. Oh, lordy lord.

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What are your initial thoughts on this?

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Masterpiece, brilliant. Give me your honest take.

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Again, guys, we don't talk about this beforehand, but she's being sarcastic.

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Let's hear your honesty. Not my favorite.

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Why wasn't your favorite? Because the OG wasn't there. I don't know.

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Who's the OG? Ed England.

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Who? I forgot his name. Robert England?

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England. Yeah, I mean, that did was kind of a bummer. But, you know,

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in 2010, he's getting up there in age. It's hard to. No, I want him to be on every fucking movie. I know.

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And AI is going to make that possible. Now he's going to be making a comeback.

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He's going to be like that time that they brought Tupac onto that concert.

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So you didn't like it very much, huh? It's not my favorite. I don't know.

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It was really dark. Oh, yeah. It wasn't entertaining.

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I like horror scary or horror comedy, but like... You just don't like straight-up horror.

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I mean, what do you mean, straight-up horror? You want it to have comedy?

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I don't know. I'm used to the other...

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Nightmare in elm street where there was comedy like there was some scary stuff

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for the time and this one there was barely freddy and when he was there he was very petty,

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petal and rapey and i did not that was not my thing petty pedo yeah pedo pedo

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that was not i was i was like ew i don't this is making me feel uncomfortable

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for the wrong reasons okay so this

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movie my initial thoughts are different i is

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this the best one no i've got

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it ranked right off initially so the

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first one obviously nightmare on elm street 1984 and then

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i like dream warriors i'm on

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elm street three and then i do

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like the fourth one a little bit but

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as a series people are gonna

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shit on me go ahead i'm not a

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big fan these movies do not hold up they're not great so one three and 2010s

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remake for me do it your top three yes and it's because no the reason being

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is i like the movies right and i like the kills i like the dream sequences They

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got creative throughout the years, but the stories weren't there.

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It lacked the storytelling of it, but it was creative with the dreams themselves.

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But yeah, I don't know. I like this one. I seen this in the theater.

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It was fun back in the day. People were cheering.

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It was just, it was a good vibe to record. So it was cool. Nice. Yeah.

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Well, this was my first time watching this. Yeah. I didn't know this existed.

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Really? No, I didn't. That's so weird. I wonder what you were doing in 2010.

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I had a one-year-old. Oh, so you weren't going to movies and stuff?

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Yeah. You could have been one of those parents that fucking took their kid to the movie theater.

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You know what? We went to go watch. I went with a friend. She dragged me to

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see, I think it was like Saw 4 or 5.

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Mm-hmm. I had seen the first one prior to- You took one-year-old Vienna?

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No, no, no, no, no. Let me finish my story. Okay. I'm about to call CPS, so tread lightly.

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We showed up there and rated our movie, right?

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First one was pretty graphic. We showed up and there's this lady with her six-year-old

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sitting up front by the aisle.

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And I was just in shock at the time. I was like, what is this kid doing here?

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So before you judge that person, I...

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I used to, in a previous life, in a previous relationship, there's this kid,

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part of my life, from one to about seven. We are talking about your exes on the phone.

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So I took him to a movie rated R and it was Overlord.

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I don't know what Overlord is. So it's a World War II movie,

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but it's got like monsters. It's a more scientific like horror twist to

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it but there's a lot of f-bombs and there's a family next

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to me like a guy and a girl just looking

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at me like you mother ever why would you take a kid to this i mean me i'll just

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say his name dylan was stoked man we're like cheering we're laughing we're having

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a good time how old was he oh dude he was five oh five or six i don't know but

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again Again, some context,

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we didn't really like shelter him from that stuff.

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So like he was used to it. It was like, I don't want to say desensitized,

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but he was like, he got to watch stuff like that, but it didn't affect him as

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long as it didn't affect him. Like he was going to like school, you know, acting stuff out.

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Kids and counseling right now. Yeah. Watch. He's just counseling. But no, we did that.

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I don't know. It was, I can't remember which one of the movies, but it was gory.

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You know, how those movies are up in your face, cutting, guts coming out of everything.

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Oh, so I would never take a kid to Saw. No, I don't like that murder porn.

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I don't like that shit. Yeah, it was open guts stuff.

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Hostile, Saw. I was like, where? Someone covering his face. There were times where I was like, ugh.

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Yeah, no, that's too extreme for me. I don't know. No, I don't think that's right.

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And that you took a one-year-old too is kind of f-ed up. I love Mad Taker.

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Her first movie was Puss in Boots. We have to go support Antonio Banderas.

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Puss in Boots. That didn't come out very long ago. This was a remake that just came out. Or a sequel.

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She was like three, two and a half? Hot take, hot take real quick.

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How do you feel about Zorro? I like it. Oh, you like Zorro. What do you like about Zorro?

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And then, was it Salma Hayek in there with him? No, Catherine Zeta-Jones.

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Oh, that's right. Mm-hmm. Mm. What do you like about Antonio Banderas? Are you kidding me?

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He was dreamy back in his days. Whoa, dreamy? Mm-hmm. He's not dreamy now?

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He, yeah. Hey, man. He's in Guilt now.

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What was the, what's the Sylvester Stallone movies? The Indestructible or?

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Exterminator ones or? The Expendables. Expendables. Hey, he's in that one.

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Is he? Yeah, he's in one of them. Oh. Dreamy gilf gilf ask the peoples maria would agree yeah but she also likes bruce willis,

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what's wrong with that no hey real quick vienna did you feed the dogs oh okay

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how do you not starve the dogs they're on a restricted diet we're muting you out,

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yeah you how do you feel about antonio banderas

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dreamy not dreaming but does he make you feel things dropped my paperwork antonio

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banderas yeah i mean he makes me feel things yeah emotionally i'm moved he just

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charges something in me charges you know that spanish accent huh Yep.

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He makes me roll the R's the hardest.

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They're not an R. They're more of a soft.

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Barcelona. Barcelona. Okay. Well, we're getting off track here. Zorro, do you want to bring up Titanic 2?

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Shout out, Kay Winslet. Oh, man. Leo.

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That's an interesting story. the movie that came out well it ties to this movie

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2010 that came out I believe Inception was a big movie this year that came out,

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Joseph Gore-Levitt Leonardo DiCaprio,

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Yeah, Christopher Nolan directed it. That's pretty exciting.

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And then the biggest grossing movie of 2010, Toy Story 3. Was that the one where

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they're facing the incinerator? I don't know. And everybody's like, it was so sad.

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They were burning them? I'm like, dude, it's a children's movie.

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Is that the one with the teddy bear? I think so. I don't know. I didn't watch it. I only watched the first one.

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They're all great movies. They have great soundtrack. remember toy story 2 was run

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like the wind balls uh that was not

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the first one no that was the second one did you

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watch balls bull was light year just

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the movie yeah actually me and vienna did

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um during the holidays not the new one the og

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with the little martians i

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don't know if i saw that but anyways toy

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story 3 grossed 100 or 1.6 billion

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worldwide isn't that crazy yeah so this movie the 2010 remake of nightmare on

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elm street the budget they got a modest budget for the times 35 million but

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the budget was bigger if you remember nightmare on elm street was part

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of Platinum Dunes remakes, Michael Bay's production company.

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So this got the highest budget out of those, out of Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

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Friday the 13th. I think there's one other one.

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I saw it had the largest budget out of all the Nightmare on Elm Street movies as well. Oh, even those.

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But, I mean, 2010, the last Freddy movie that came out was Freddy vs.

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Jason, and that was at 2003.

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So i mean that's a big difference so 35

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million pretty good budget and this movie

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despite what people are saying now it

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it got about 115.6 million worldwide and and then 63 million domestically so

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it did a pretty good job it was pretty successful considering all the hate it's

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getting now it's kind of split you got people in my like that feel my way like they appreciate it,

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sorry i'm gonna sneeze do it

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no they got people that are that appreciate it appreciate the remake appreciate

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what they were trying to do but then you got those people i think it's just

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nostalgia where they're like oh kind of like you oh we want the funniness we

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want this it's not robert england they just can't get over that fact and they

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didn't even give it a chance i don't think to be honest,

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so the fact that you gave it a chance is cool you didn't find anything in it

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that you liked All right. I mean, obviously the quality got a lot better, the scenes, the kills,

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you know, a lot more clear, but I don't know.

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I guess I was just used to, I think it's more of like the old monsters that

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they had on, you know, those 80s, 90s Nightmare on Elm Street. Oh.

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Or I guess the way that he appeared in the dreams. Oh, I gotcha.

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So yeah, a lot of people criticized the way he looked and

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they weren't more of a realistic approach with a

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burn victim where a lot of people didn't

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like that but the thing is they kind of

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made him more cartoonish in the previous ones where he

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still had a nose they went real where if you've ever seen bird victims they

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did a pretty good job the only knock that i have on it is the 2010 cgi at least

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what they who they hired for this didn't do the best job a lot of that cgi was

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a little bit behind if you

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ask me it kind of took me out there's some scenes and

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we'll i'm sure we'll point them out as we go but they could

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have done a lot better and honestly i think if they

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would have just went practical with his makeup i

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think it would be a lot better not having that cgi to help

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with the makeup well i don't think it was as effective yeah i did see that they

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were trying to go realistic burn but they also took away some of the realism

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a little bit because they didn't want to turn people away and be disgusted by

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like the you to make it look more realistically burnt.

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They went there they almost got there because they were saying that you

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know have some of the whiteness to

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their face because their flesh is so in i don't anyways yeah yeah

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no and they could have went further they they really could have

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but i i think where they settled was pretty good

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how before we get

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into the movie and discuss it more

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did you find other movies that came

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out other horror movies that came out in 2010 because i've

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seen it's pretty extensive list here that's pretty good

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yeah there was there's a lot of stuff that

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came out this year you have the reef another shark movie the

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ward insidious the beginning of them

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the crazies oh dude have

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you you ever seen that one that's a remake george a romero movie but this one

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has timothy oliphant i actually enjoy that you've never seen this remake the

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crazy is no oh man this that one might be a platinum dunes i could be wrong

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on that but we gotta watch that okay yeah it's pretty good we also have the last exorcism.

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I Spit on Your Grave. That one's a good one. Atrocious. This was a Spanish movie.

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Mm-hmm. Which I actually, I have that on my list of wanting to watch.

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Piranha, a classic. I remember watching this one back in the day. Oh, Piranha 3D.

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Yeah, and then. That one's crazy. That's a horror comedy. And then we have Frozen.

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Devil's pretty good. Isn't that the one, the elevator? And that one, guess what?

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You can say it. Pineapple. Oh, that's our escape word for M. Night Shyamalan.

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They don't like when I get on the tangent. But from what I remember,

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I actually enjoyed some elements of it. Not all of it entirely because he fucks up the movie at the end.

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But that one, I'll give him credit for that one. Give him credit.

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We also saw... Splice was good. Saw the final chapter.

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Paranormal Activity 2. 3D was coming in hard this year, too. And Black Swan.

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Oh, Black Swan was pretty good. that was that was more

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of a psychological wasn't it that movie is yeah hey you're

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you're missing some predators that one was sick have

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you ever seen that it's got adrian brody in it

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it's got a machete probably what's

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his name danny yeah danny trejo yeah uh he's in it it's pretty good okay we'll

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have to watch you never seen that maybe predators where they're on their planet

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like they They kidnap them and put all these people on this planet and they hunt them.

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I feel like I watched a few of those, but it's been a minute.

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They don't blur because they're all kind of different. They blur. You got Arnold and then you got Danny Glover in LA in number two.

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They're all a little different, man. I just remember the Predators. Okay.

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My Soul to Take came out. That's another one.

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Directed by Wes Craven. in frozen a survival

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horror film about three friends stranded on a

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ski lift i've never seen that but

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could be let me in did you mention that one yeah so

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there's a ton that came out tucker and dell versus evil remember we tried watching

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a little bit it's it's okay it's kind of dumb humor yeah entertaining yeah but

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no that's so that was the movies that came out was Was there anything of note

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that you mentioned Saw that had a big effect on you?

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No, I did get around eventually to watching Paranormal too, but I didn't think

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that was great. Paranormal Activity 2? Wait, no, is 4 the one with the girl from Abigail?

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Yes, Catherine Newton. She's in 4. I remember seeing that one in theaters. Okay. Okay.

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I think the most memorable was the first one because people were freaking out over this movie.

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I hate all of them. They all suck balls.

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Made on shoestring budget. I'm sorry. You can't polish a turd.

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And these were fucking awful. I don't know how people enjoy them. They're not for me. I didn't like them. They're cheesy.

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Yeah, once you see the first one, the rest are kind of the same suit.

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It's kind of like found footage. once you watch it the first time it

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loses its luster because how do you top it you

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have to top it each time you watch it and you can

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only watch these movies once because you know

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like it doesn't have that effect on you again where other movies can still have

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that effect found footage for whatever reason at least for me it does not have

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that effect on me and then i'm like bored throughout the whole movie because

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i know i'm like oh i'm just watching this kind of just Just to watch it and

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get through. It's junk food. Yeah. You know, I think that was the, yeah, definitely a lot of stuff came out this year.

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Yeah, no, for horror, 2010 was making a huge, I feel like, because we cover

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a lot of years, I felt like this year, it was making a, not a comeback, but it came in strong.

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Like, I think movies in general were coming in strong.

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Yeah. For 2010. in 10 like you said

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3d was starting to become a thing yeah

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there was talks they were trying to push this movie to be 3d

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well after after what was the blue people

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oh avatar yeah after avatar came in that kind of pushed it and then we rode

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that for a few years that 3d 3d comes around full circle about every 10 20 years

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it comes back and granted it's better do you remember Remember,

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have you ever watched a 3D TV? I feel bad for people who invested in those. Oh, my gosh. Remember when they

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were really pushing them in the stores?

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Like, that's all. Like, you would walk down, and there was aisles of just 3D

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TVs. They were fucking hawking that shit.

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It was a ripoff. So, I had a buddy who bought one, and he's like,

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dude, this is so tight. Let's watch this movie. I watched it, and, dude, I felt so bad. I didn't say anything to him.

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I'm like, oh, this is cool. but dude it

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it was the same i'm like there's nothing jumping

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out this is not great and then nothing ever

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really like they didn't add a lot to

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it either like movies were coming out i just it just kind of died off so i feel

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bad for people who spent thousands of dollars on these tvs because they didn't

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last long so for me it didn't get my attention i liked going like if it happened

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to go watch a three-day movie in the theater but to pay extra you still have

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to pay extra to watch that bullshit. It was just never an interest to bring it home. Because, yeah,

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you go and buy this TV, you will forever need fucking glasses.

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What if you have a bunch of people come over? Are you going to have to order

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glasses for all of your guests to come over and watch a movie with you?

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And then did the TVs, like, you could adjust it back to 2D? Like,

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what happened? I have no idea. See, I don't know too much enough about them, but I know my buddy was kind of

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at the end of it. He was like, dude, that was such a ripoff.

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I don't know why I bought this fucking TV. Yeah, it just seemed like a lot of

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work and effort to watch a movie at home.

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Yeah. Yeah, he had a surrounds on everything. I'm like, dude,

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because he was serious about his movies. But I was like, ugh, I think you're premature on this one. Yeah.

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Usually with technology like that, I'm going to wait a couple years,

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let them work out the shit, and if it sticks, it sticks.

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It's going to be around for a while. Yeah. But he was one that spent the money

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when it first came out, was fucking on it. Damn. Yeah, I felt bad for him.

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But let's close that tab. We love 3D.

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How do you feel about the cast? I only recognize two people from the cast.

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You recognize two people from the cast? I do. I do.

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And I think that's another thing for me that got in the middle of fully enjoying this movie.

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It was Jackie Earl Haley.

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When watchmen came out i love that movie i watched it so many times i bought

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it he's great in there warshark and so watching it that's all i heard i just

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heard warshark then through the entire,

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movie every time he talked i'm like yep and i could just see him picture him

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in that mask from watchmen just yeah that one was good that was a pretty good

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movie which got him this this role.

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Great role for him and watch him in and he did really good

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here too but i don't know i just couldn't get over his character in

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the other movie yeah no so from the

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research i was doing he was pretty much this movie

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he was acting with like kind of hands

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tied behind his back because he couldn't really do a whole lot they

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weren't letting him they kind of confined him and he couldn't

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really like do what he wanted to do from the sounds of it like he had to stick

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to certain things they cut out a lot of things he couldn't improvise where I

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think Robert Englund you gotta give him credit he improvised a lot of that like

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a lot of things he was talking about and that were kind of funny was him and I think if.

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I don't think we can really fairly judge Jackie Earl Haley for his role on this

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because I don't think he got the opportunity like he should have.

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Where I think he's a pretty good actor. I think he could have taken this to

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maybe not Robert Englis status, but I think he could have took it to that.

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Added his own personal take on.

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Because that's what it's begging for. There is no flavor whatsoever.

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They really doled this character down. and made him really dark, which is cool.

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But if you're going to do that, you got to let this guy at least have some sort

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of personality come through a little bit more.

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And that was just kind of unfortunate that he didn't get the opportunity.

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Yeah, but I mean, besides him, actually, I know three people that were memorable

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to me that I've seen him in other stuff. The other person was... Wait, did you know Jackie Earl Haley was in The Bad News Bears in 1976?

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I didn't know he was a kid actor. I did not know that.

26:43

Kelly Leak was his character. And I remember that movie, but I don't remember him.

26:47

Did you see that they also wanted Billy Bob Thornton and Steve Buscemi considered for the Freddy role?

26:54

Ugly people. They're like, who are the ugliest actors? I'd be so pissed.

26:58

They're like, who looks the closest to a burn victim? Again,

27:02

I feel like Steve Buscemi, I've known him as a comedian.

27:05

So he has had serious roles, more serious.

27:09

Have you ever seen Con Air? He plays a pretty good weirdo in that.

27:12

I don't think that I have I think most of the stuff I've seen him it's been

27:15

comedies with Adam Sandler light hearted escape from New York he's light or

27:19

escape from LA he's pretty light hearted and then yeah Adam Sandler movies but yeah,

27:25

Yeah, not the right fit. Who would be the right fit in 2010?

27:28

I'm trying to think. I don't know. Who would be able to take it to the level? I think Kevin Bacon would have been

27:35

okay. Really? Trying to do it, maybe.

27:38

I think. You need a serious character actor or a no-namer that doesn't give a fuck what he's doing.

27:46

That you don't, again, like me in my case, seeing him, I just kept thinking Rorschach.

27:52

So maybe someone who wasn't well-known.

27:55

What did you call him? Rorschach? No, it's Rorschach.

27:59

Oh. Is it not? I think it's Rorschach. Yeah, because it's like Rorschach paintings. I could be wrong.

28:07

And then one thing that I saw that was... Hold on, I'm going to Google. Are you going to Google?

28:14

No, I'm going to 2010.

28:18

Rorschach. He was in The Long Game. Lime, Little Children, Watchmen, Shutter Island.

28:26

Rorschach. Rorschach. Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Rorschach.

28:31

Rorschach. Not Warshach. Rorschach. Roar.

28:35

Rorschach. You're messing with me. Oh my fucking God. He was also in Dark Shadows. I remember him there,

28:44

the driver for Johnny Depp. He played, Johnny was a vampire.

28:49

Oh, yeah. Robocop. The Tick? Dude, you know an interesting actor would be sorry to cut you off.

28:56

Are you still talking about Jackie Rovelli? Yeah, I'm going over his work.

28:59

So, an interesting one would be Bryan Cranston.

29:03

Let me see. I think he could, from Breaking Bad.

29:06

I did not finish watching that show. But you know the guy I'm talking about, right? No.

29:10

Bryan Cranston, lead character who was making the math, the teacher.

29:15

He was making, oh, wait, Breaking Bad?

29:18

Yeah. Is that when they escaped prison?

29:21

No. What? Prison Break. Walter White, dude. Walter White?

29:27

Yes, I did watch Breaking Bad. William Dafoe. He would have been a good one.

29:34

Let's see, who else do we got? Paul Dano, although relatively young.

29:38

I think he would have been decent.

29:41

Sam Rockwell, maybe? Nah. No. I think he could improvise, though.

29:46

He could improvise, but he's too well-known in other things. I don't know.

29:51

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know who could have done it.

29:55

Because a lot of these guys, you've got Woody Harrelson, Matthew McConaughey, Benedict Cumberbatch.

30:01

Tom Hardy would have been an interesting one maybe I don't know,

30:05

Paul Giamatti And then we have I didn't know I mean I've only watched a couple

30:12

Episodes of Narcos Mexico He was in there too And then Alita Battle Angel That

30:19

was an interesting movie too Yeah, Dude Joaquin Phoenix might have been a good Good one I don't know.

30:28

They could have went Al Pacino I think Jackie, he could have been good if they

30:35

had given him more freedom to play with the character.

30:37

No, yeah, I think they're on the right track with him.

30:41

But yeah, they didn't give him the fair opportunity. But yeah, he has a lengthy career.

30:46

He was in Shutter Island, too. That was cool.

30:48

Have you ever seen that one? Yeah, with Leo. Yeah.

30:52

And what's his name? He plays the Hulk. Yeah, Ruffalo, Mark Ruffalo.

30:57

Yeah, so I think they're on the right track with him. They just should have

31:00

given him a little more freedom, a little more trust. Our lead actress here, Rooney Mara, I thought she did pretty good as Nancy.

31:09

I forgot she was in this movie. Where I do recognize her is The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

31:15

She plays the girl with the dragon tattoo.

31:18

Okay. The weirdo. Have you ever seen that one? No. It's got 007 in it.

31:24

God, what's his name? I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember

31:27

his name. God, we're terrible. Oh, my God. Listeners, if you're hanging in there, guys, I think we have,

31:34

what's that, Alzheimer's? We have something going on, man. Lou Gehrig's disease. I don't know what's happening to us.

31:42

But no, she played good in that.

31:46

And then other than that, she was in a movie called Her, A Ghost Story,

31:50

and Carol is what I gathered.

31:53

Okay and then we have our scream king i'm gonna

31:56

label him that scream king scream king dude

31:59

he is he plays quentin in this movie kyle galliner

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and if you remember the movie

32:06

he was on previously that we covered jennifer's body

32:09

yeah that's where i recognized him from and he's in

32:12

the cleansing hour we watched that he's in

32:16

a couple other ones so he's in the haunting of connecticut i

32:18

remember him in that he was he was just getting started he was

32:21

young he was in a movie i don't recognize dear white

32:24

people the show or the movie the movie

32:27

i guess okay i watched the show oh maybe it's

32:30

a show i don't know and then he's also an american sniper which

32:33

i that was with bradley cooper i believe i don't think

32:36

i've ever seen that i didn't i was at one point

32:38

on my watch this but i didn't get around to but would you

32:42

would you consider him a scream king i think he's pretty good i

32:44

like this guy I would he he was

32:48

also in scream what scream the

32:52

TV show or what I think it was a TV show

32:55

he was also in smile hmm oh I

32:58

don't remember this and in strange

33:02

darling which looks like it was a TV show hold.

33:05

On and he's going to be in smile too Kyle Gallagher was yes what character in

33:12

smile oh fuck he was in smile he was joel oh yeah so yeah he was in smile he's

33:19

gonna be in smile too he's also in a movie called the passenger that came out last year,

33:24

Roost, let's see, Dinner in America. Yeah, he's done quite a bit of stuff.

33:30

Mm-hmm. Okay. Scream King, hashtag. Ghosts of War.

33:35

I guess, was he in Scream 2022? I don't think he was.

33:41

No? No, he was in Red Eye. Oh, man, I'm going to have to go back and revisit these movies.

33:48

Because I like him as an actor. I think he's pretty good. Like, I know the movie.

33:51

I give a movie a shot. when i see him in there i'm like okay i

33:55

i trust that he picks decent movies to be in like horror movies because each

34:00

one i've seen they've held up pretty good they also consider taylor lotner for

34:06

this role oh my god thank fucking god they didn't do the fucking twilighter dude,

34:13

they already have the fucking twilight guy in the

34:16

beginning of the movie oh the other vampire guy yeah so

34:19

yeah no i like kyle galliner i

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think he is a scream king he's right up in there he's making a good name for

34:26

himself in horror um yeah other than that i don't really recognize except the

34:32

dude from twilight but katie cassidy i don't recognize her it looks like she's kind of tv.

34:40

Or she i guess she was the girl in taken she

34:44

was in supernatural which i've never seen that tv show people love

34:47

it i got really into it for a while you

34:50

got into supernatural why i'm fascinated

34:52

i'm fascinated by you people like because when

34:56

you do no hear me out hear me

34:59

out hear me out on this so like when

35:03

when you someone brings up supernatural and you're either

35:07

don't know the show at all or you're obsessed with

35:11

the show like like i know the actor baldecki

35:15

or paldecki he was in friday the 13th house of

35:18

wax and dean yeah so why do

35:22

you like this movie or why do you like that show some episodes

35:25

are interesting i like to see where they take

35:28

and how they play with what a demon is and what the

35:31

devil is and look they're more than just a fucking character

35:34

that's gonna to come and get you in the middle of the night they have

35:37

a personality they have fucking personal life they have issues they're trying

35:42

to take souls and grow their thing i like what they did with castiel the angel

35:47

god one of god's fallen the one of god's angels fallen angels okay because they

35:51

he's so like i don't know they make him question his care he's.

35:57

He's character, right? He's an angel. He's supposed to be 100% devoted to God.

36:01

But when he starts hanging out with humans and all the shit that's going on

36:04

in the world, he's like, wait, is God listening?

36:06

And they're like, where the fuck is God? Isn't that Lucifer?

36:13

No, Lucifer takes a whole rap with it, too. But they really do question.

36:18

You can see him, Castiel, having conflict with other angels because they start

36:23

being questioning what God is telling them to do.

36:26

And again just playing this is just episode

36:29

306 i don't know but you

36:32

guys guys guys do you hear this this is

36:35

what i'm talking about every time i hear someone talk about supernatural this

36:38

is what happens this i'm just

36:41

telling you why i got into it for a bit next week i

36:44

gotta announce we're no longer doing this angelus is

36:48

doing a supernatural podcast i'm gonna

36:51

resume supernatural i there was

36:54

there's some seasons that were better a lot of the times it was

36:56

just background you watched all the seasons no i haven't

37:00

i stopped that's your junk food that's your comfort food like i said my guilty

37:03

pleasure right now hash brown white collar i know yeah a lot of times i would

37:09

play it because some episodes were not great some of them were interesting and

37:13

i would actually stop and pay attention to them it kind of reminds me because

37:17

i've seen bits and pieces it kind of

37:20

reminds me of what's charmed oh that

37:23

kind of show and i was like this is cheesy this is stupid but i've never met

37:27

a dude that likes supernatural it's always girls or women that like supernatural

37:32

i think i got yeah and then i get it the guys are handsome well some seasons

37:38

went really into demons and angels and when but when i first started watching it was.

37:44

They're hunting out creatures. And so like, you know, every other episode they

37:48

were encounter a new creature and hunted down and figure out why it was killing

37:52

and a little bit more about their. So deep down, it was deep. It was deeper.

37:58

It's just junk food show. I get it. Okay. Supernatural. Thank you. Why did you ask me?

38:05

Katie Cassidy. She's in it. And then you have, and then you have Thomas Decker,

38:10

which actually I take that back. I do. i know of him because he was in heroes

38:15

did you watch heroes i did i watched

38:18

a few episodes i didn't get into it like i'm sorry

38:21

tv shows aren't my main thing it's movies that i like i watch all of heroes

38:27

heroes was okay that i got season one and two after that i just kind of got

38:32

it was boring i started and i just felt like i needed to watch it to finish

38:37

it no and there's nothing wrong with I don't know.

38:41

I think it's my ADHD, but I can't invest.

38:44

I end up stop watching seasons.

38:47

I'll get deep, too. I'll get into season three or four of something and then

38:51

just stop watching and there's like eight seasons.

38:53

He did a lot of voices for The Land Before Time.

38:58

Dude, Land Before Time. You ever seen that? Yeah, he was in five,

39:02

six, seven, eight, nine.

39:04

I don't know those ones, but I remember the early ones. Yeah,

39:07

the first couple ones. once. Dude, I loved Land Before Time. Those movies were deep.

39:11

They were. Yeah, sad. Do you remember the movie Homeward Bound?

39:15

No. You don't remember that? Shadow?

39:18

No. Shadow? No. Okay, never mind. Another episode, guys.

39:24

If you know Homeward Bound, you know what I'm talking about.

39:27

And then you have, so Thomas Decker, and then you have Kellen Lutz as Dean Russell,

39:33

and this is the Twilight guy. He plays Emmett Cullen in Twilight, and And he was in Immortals.

39:40

Have you ever seen that one? That's pretty good. I think it was like a derivative of 300 or the people who

39:46

made 300, I think, made Immortals. It had that kind of tinge, that film tinge.

39:50

You know what I'm talking about? The way 300 looked?

39:53

Yeah. It had that. So I could be wrong.

39:56

And he was in The Expendables 3 and then also Tarzan. What Men Want.

40:03

What? He was also in a movie called What Men Want.

40:06

And fbi is most wanted yeah

40:10

and then oh so we have more

40:13

actors here clancy brown i remember him in

40:16

shawshank redemption but also highlander's another big one starship troopers

40:21

but what i mainly remember this guy in his pet cemetery too he plays a either

40:27

a sheriff or a cop we'll have to watch that have you ever seen that it's got

40:31

the kid from terminator 2 i don't think so oh man Man, that's a good one.

40:36

So we'll have to watch that. But I like Clancy Brown. He plays the school counselor,

40:41

I think, in this one. Yeah. Kyle Gellner's dead. Okay. And then you have Connie Britton, Dr. Gwen Holbrook.

40:49

She's Friday Night Live's American Horror Story.

40:52

Yes. Isn't she pregnant in the first season of that? Well, she gets knocked out by a demon.

40:57

Dude, isn't that wild? Yeah, I liked her in that season. The first season, she played Vivian.

41:04

Ooh, Viv. Viv. She was also in Dirty John in the first season.

41:09

Oh, yeah. Dirty John was good, too. Do you remember her? Yeah.

41:13

Yeah, that was a crazy show. I like that.

41:15

Seeking Friends for the End of the World.

41:19

Beatriz at Dinner. Salma Hayek was in that one. Promising Young Woman.

41:23

She had a small role in that movie. The White Lotus.

41:28

Luckiest Girl Alive. Dear Edward.

41:31

Winner. I don't know that I've seen that. Looks like she's done a lot of TV. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then after that, then you have Leah D.

41:41

Mortison, Juliana Dam, Christian Stolite, Katie Shooping Knight.

41:49

I think that kind of rounds out the cast.

41:52

So you felt pretty good about the cast? Did you like it? I like,

41:56

yeah, I feel like some characters were more developed than others.

42:01

Okay, so this movie, I think characters were not developed. Very good. Okay.

42:07

I think we could have got a little bit more in depth with them.

42:10

I think that's what the 1984 one does really well is character development.

42:14

And a couple of the ones in the 80s did pretty good. But this one,

42:18

it was more, you can tell, it was sped up.

42:21

Yeah. They chopped it out. A lot of it can be contributed to our next topic is the director.

42:26

A lot of it can be contributed to that because Samuel Bear, he's a legend in

42:31

music and directing those movies.

42:34

Yeah, he's a legend in that. that but he made his film debut

42:37

with this and this is the only movie he has

42:40

ever directed and he didn't want to do it to begin which yeah

42:43

which we'll get into more i'm fascinated to hear about my

42:47

thing is he tried it and honestly i don't think it's bad for a first movie this

42:52

movie could have been a lot worse and i think he did a pretty damn good job

42:57

for having a first movie having the budget it had he had a lot of pressure on

43:02

him to produce something and he did because it was successful.

43:06

So i think he did a pretty good job i'm not going to

43:09

be harsh on him um like i have been on other people yeah because like it follows

43:15

i'm sorry people guys i will apologize maybe i went a little too hard on him

43:20

but again i'm not against that guy either but that was more of a lazy Lazy direction, lazy writing.

43:27

This one, I think, went over the top. He pushed too much on one area where he

43:34

lacked kind of guidance to make it a little more funny.

43:37

Michael Bay, I think, had a little more to contribute to that, a darker tone.

43:41

So I don't think he had enough pull either to do what he wanted to do.

43:46

I think he could have done this better, like Jackie Earl Haley,

43:49

if he had a little bit more control. I don't think he did.

43:52

Anyways, what did you have on him? The director? Is that where we're going with this? Yeah, yeah.

43:59

Yeah, like you said, amazing photography, tons. Do you have his notable music video work?

44:05

I have some. I went down the rabbit hole and I was like, holy smokes.

44:08

Yeah, I've found a few. You probably have them too, but his big ones.

44:13

I have a list. Yeah, okay, go through them.

44:16

Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Ozzy Osbourne, My Mom Coming Home.

44:20

Ooh-wee. Iron Maiden, Wasting Love, Ramones, Poison Heart, Whole Dole Parts. Fuck yeah.

44:27

For Marilyn Manson, he did a few songs, Aerosmith, Pearl Jam.

44:32

Wait, which Aerosmith song? Love on the Elevator.

44:36

Oh. Sunshine. Oh. Pearl Jam. He did Quick Escape, The Offsprings,

44:41

This Is Not Utopia, This Machine Pumpkins.

44:44

Okay. Do you know the music, the songs? Do you want me to tell you the songs too?

44:48

Yeah, let's do the songs. The Smashing Pumpkins, he did Bullet with Butterfly Wings.

44:52

Damn, a heavy one. That's our best song. For Marilyn Manson,

44:56

he did Rock is Dead, Comma, White, and Disposable Teens. Mm-hmm.

45:01

And then David Bowie. Bowie. Bowie, he did The Heart's Filthy Lesson and Strangers When We Meet.

45:08

Metallica. He did Until It Sleeps, The Rolling Stones. He did Anybody Seen My Baby.

45:15

Oh man, we haven't even scratched the surface though. LL Cool J.

45:19

He did Father, Blink 182, Stay Together for the Kids.

45:24

Green Day. He did a lot for Green Day.

45:26

Dude, Green Day. So 2004 was huge for Green Day. Huge for him.

45:31

He did American Idiot, Boulevard of Broken Heart,

45:34

Broken Dreams, Holiday, holiday wake me

45:37

up when september ends jesus of suburbia bullet

45:40

in a bible dude 2004 that album was

45:43

like my gospel uh i know

45:46

i was like i know all of this song dude okay but you're

45:49

not even you skipped over some things michael jackson i

45:52

plays with no name i ruined five animals that's a

45:56

little more recent yeah but you're missing some big ones dude welcome to the

46:01

jungle guns and roses is he did that i was trying not to listen i was like this

46:05

is a lot nirvana smells like teen spirit that's another one zombie by the cranberries

46:12

oh my god this guy was fucking killing it he's a legend.

46:16

He's had a solo exhibition of photography and

46:20

then yeah just a ton my chemical romance

46:24

justin timberlake yeah he's he's

46:27

still killing it too till this day yeah and then

46:30

he's done a lot of commercials so when i looked him up actually took

46:33

me directly to his website yeah he has all

46:35

his collection there of like commercials to like super bowl

46:39

pepsi i never did coca-cola and that's where i was like whoa the photography

46:44

yeah and that's one thing about this movie he does really well so yeah no in

46:51

the background so he's from new york and new york syracuse and then he's He

46:57

was born February 17th, 1962, but yeah, he, this is kind of the, the balls on this guy taking a remake of a, such a classic movie.

47:07

I know Wes Craven has been noted. He was upset about it. He's like,

47:11

dude, they didn't even consult me about this movie, which is kind of,

47:14

dude, that is kind of shitty, dude. Wes Craven is still alive at this point.

47:17

He's making, I believe, 2011 he made Scream 4.

47:22

Why not bring him in and give you guidance on giving some levity to it,

47:27

too, where they could have got a perspective on this.

47:31

This is where I think they got a little egotistical and like,

47:35

fuck you, old man. And this is our thing when really they should have brought

47:39

him in for a little bit of guidance because the dude knows how to fucking shoot a movie.

47:43

I mean, he's done all this work. He created this character.

47:47

Yeah, I feel like that's where, you know, at least talk to him.

47:50

Samuel going in there and having to fill into this huge shoes that was Craven

47:55

was already had, you know, that Freddie already has a history.

48:00

People know him. Well, dude, at this point he has canon, like people write stuff

48:05

about it and it gets into the lore, like all this history.

48:10

Wes Craven, when he started, he didn't make it that deep in the character.

48:14

Like it wasn't, this movie really touched on the canon of he was a child molester.

48:20

He killed these, he killed kids. This really emphasized it where he didn't kill kids, I don't think,

48:26

but he molested the kids. Wes Craven didn't touch that. He purposely left it as, left to you to imagine he did something bad.

48:35

Yeah, that's what I saw, that back in, you know, 84, when the first one was

48:39

made, they didn't want to, like, push that on people. Yeah. So they just let it be a serial killer character.

48:45

Yeah. That was the original story. Left to your own imagination kind of thing.

48:49

And that's where it took off the child molestation and all that.

48:52

People created that, and that just became part of the canon of Freddy Krueger.

48:58

They didn't deny it either so like they just they

49:01

added to it just to you know drum up

49:03

popularity and the character yeah well

49:07

i because that's growing up that's what we knew like rock oh this motherfucker's

49:11

a chimo he's a piece of shit that was news to me watching this i was like it's

49:16

been it had been a long time since i had watched these movies i mean you know

49:20

that i spent the last week just kind of going over them and i was like what

49:23

the hell did i miss Yeah, no, he's a He's a Chimo.

49:26

And yeah, the first, like, I think right now I'm on number three and then, of course, this.

49:31

And I haven't seen hints of him being a Chimo in those first three movies.

49:36

Well, because they don't. At this point, it gets behind. It's done.

49:39

Now, Freddy is a legend. It is who he is. Now, people show up to see that.

49:45

And that's why those movies get weak is because it's all just like...

49:51

Typical horror fashion, slasher fashion. They know what the audience wants.

49:55

They get to it. Yeah. Which can be good, but also terrible.

50:00

This movie, too. Do you have any more on the director? No.

50:04

Just, yeah, that was his first movie, and he was like, done.

50:06

I'm not doing movies anymore. Not for me. And he went back to music videos and commercials.

50:12

Which I'm kind of bummed, because I don't think he did terrible.

50:14

I think he could have done some good work. But if that's not your thing, totally understandable.

50:20

Now the writer yeah well

50:23

the writers there's multiple so we

50:26

have the first one that i have is wesley strick

50:29

so he's an american screenwriter and

50:32

author known for his work on variety of films particularly in

50:36

thriller and horror genres he was born in february

50:40

11th 54 in new york and so films and we've covered this one arachnophobia he

50:47

covered that one he did cape fear wolf with jack nicholson i love that movie

50:53

the saint doom the rock movie have you ever seen doom,

50:58

it's off it's based off the video game it's a video game no it's a shitty fucking

51:04

movie and it sucks but we should watch that it's part of it and then nightmare

51:08

in elm street he did and And then Love is Strange, a romantic drama.

51:12

So that just threw it in there.

51:15

Novels. Strick has also authored several novels, including Out There in the Dark and Whirlybird.

51:22

Do you know any of this? Nope. So the only movies you've watched is Arachnophobia

51:27

and Nightmare on Elm Street? I think maybe Cape Fear.

51:30

With our boy...

51:33

Lauren Scorsese, Robert De Niro. De Niro. And then I don't know that I watched.

51:39

He did Batman Returns, the 1992. So I don't know that I watched that.

51:43

Oh, dude. He wrote on that?

51:46

Yeah. That's cool. And then The Man in High Castle. Oh, yeah. The Hulu series. Cool.

51:52

And then the second, right? Or do you have anything else on? No.

51:55

No, I don't. And then the second one I have is Eric Hyacier.

52:01

I don't know. Oh, this is my second language. Yeah.

52:04

So he is an American screenwriter, director, and producer known for his work

52:09

in the horror and science fiction genres.

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Again, he was born on June 13, 1970 in Norman, Oklahoma.

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He has a little bit more. You probably know these movies a little bit more.

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Final Destination 5, The Thing. I love the remake, by the way.

52:26

Have you seen the remake of that? The Thing? I love both. I think so. I think so.

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I love both movies. people kick my ass for it bird books hours lights out arrival

52:37

bird box like you said extinction and bloodshot and that's a super of movie

52:44

i remember seeing that with vin diesel terrible,

52:47

that movie sucked but i'm not a big vin diesel fan either oh you're not hey

52:52

hot topic here or hot take.

52:56

Fast and the Furious sucks. I hate those movies so much. I've only seen two.

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That's it. I think that's kind of where I am. Two or three. Yeah,

53:06

I don't like those movies. Do you like any of them? I hate them. The first two, and then they just keep pushing and pushing with the boring.

53:14

The second one with Tyrese, I like. Like, what's her name?

53:19

Michelle Rodriguez. She dies, and then they bring her back, and I'm like,

53:22

what are you guys doing? It's a drama. I hate that.

53:24

It's a money grab. i fucking hate that but no

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yeah so he collaborated on this to make

53:31

the story that's the writers do you have any

53:34

take on the writers you have any complaints

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any praise no i did see for again with eric heiser he was a creator head writer

53:46

showrunner and executive producer of shadow and bone which is I heard fuzz about

53:52

it on, I think it's on Netflix, right? Is it pretty good?

53:55

I have not watched it. I know a lot of people did. So I think we've watched

53:59

a trailer on it and we've been meaning to watch it.

54:01

We just forgot to. Shadow and Bone? Yeah.

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The story is an adaptation of the Grisha trilogy and Six of Crows duology.

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He also co-wrote Enconjuring 2.

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And he has written in like documentaries.

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One of them was called Like You Know What You See. And the other one was The

54:19

Story of Your Life, which I had never, I don't know that I've heard of them

54:21

before or what they're about. The Story of Your Life? Mm-hmm. Oh.

54:27

Oh. Cool. Okay. Anything else? No, that's all that I had on the writers.

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Cool. Any thoughts, opinions? No, cool stuff, man. All right, cool. Participation, I like it.

54:40

That's stupid. Well, I had the same stuff you had written down.

54:43

Babe, babe, it's cool. Whatever. And then do we want to talk about our boy, Michael Bay?

54:50

I didn't have anything on Michael Bay. So this bastard, his influence. This bastard.

54:58

He, dude, okay. So his creative oversight.

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He offered input on the film's direction similar to

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the like friday 13th and texas chainsaw massacre

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he had heavily influenced the

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direction the script the casting and overall vision while the director and writers

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primarily shaped the story and the execution producers like bay can significantly

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influence the major creative decisions and in this case that's what happened

55:25

i did see so where i like texas chainsaw massacre

55:28

2003 and friday the 13th 2009 this one

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his dude this one

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he should have backed off a little bit you had two heavy writers in

55:38

horror yeah they could have carried you bud like

55:41

i think it was wesley that i saw there was he

55:44

had left some comments saying that sometimes he would show up yeah

55:47

to production and they were shooting scenes that he had not written and

55:50

he's like where is this coming from so that's what i'm

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talking about like dude michael bay bro stick if

55:55

you're gonna produce it produce it man but stay the fuck out

55:58

of it like directing it yeah come on man

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you you made this worse like

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it could have had so much potential to be great and it

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just kind of it's like middle of the road where i like it it's just kind of

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middle of the world these are the movies he redid i found it i knew i noted

56:17

it so i already mentioned texas chainsaw massacre friday the 13th but he also

56:22

did the platinum dunes did amityville horror with With Ryan Reynolds.

56:26

You remember that one? Oh yeah. That was a good one.

56:28

And The Hitcher. I haven't seen the remake. But we watched the 80's version.

56:33

I liked that one. Dude that one was fucking wild.

56:36

Yeah. She gets pulled apart. I wish it would have showed that.

56:39

Oh that would have been fucking cool. Man. I liked the character.

56:41

What was his name? The main character. Oh fuck. I can't remember. He was good. He was creepy. He just fucking kept coming hard.

56:48

Oh fuck dude. He did. He did. The Hitcher 1986 was fucking awesome.

56:53

Watch it if you haven't. Yeah. It's a good thrill. We might have to watch the

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2007 one. I wonder if it's any good. Any good.

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I know Amityville Horror is pretty good. I like that remake.

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But yeah, anyways, before we get to the plot, do you want to take a quick break?

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Yes. And thank you for the support, guys. But getting into it, did you have a chance? I know you're busy and stressed

59:44

out this week. Can you have a chance to write a plot?

59:47

Because I wrote two versions of my plot. You wrote two versions?

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Yes. I was tired of getting left in your dust with your funny plots.

59:54

I wrote a more serious one. And then I wrote maybe a little more lighthearted one. Let's start with your

1:00:01

serious one. No, let's hear yours first.

1:00:03

Why? No, this is cheating. I like to go last. I like to go last.

1:00:06

Because then you're going to let us listen to both of them? Yes. Oh.

1:00:12

Lame. We could go one, one, one, one. Fine. Okay. I'll go with the first plot. Okay.

1:00:19

2010 remake of Nightmare on Elm Street. This modern reimagining of a classic

1:00:23

horror tale follows a group of teenagers who are haunted by a terrifying dream.

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As they delve deeper into their shared nightmare, they uncover a dark secret that binds them all.

1:00:34

With time running out, they must confront their worst fears and the sinister

1:00:38

figure lurking in their dreams.

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That's my serious one. Beautiful. My turn.

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Okay. Long time friend teenagers begin to have similar nightmares in which a

1:00:50

bird man with a razor glove hand terrorizes them and tries to kill them.

1:00:55

The teens so realize these nightmares may not just be dreams after all,

1:00:59

and realize they must fight their micro-naps with coffee, generic Adderall,

1:01:03

in order to defeat the revengeful pedophile killer with the weird fetish for schoolgirl dresses.

1:01:08

Hashtag to catch a dream predator. Interesting. Interesting.

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Okay. You look disappointed. They weren't longtime friends. I'm just saying.

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There's a hole. You forgot about it. Exactly.

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But they were friends. Okay. Here's my one. Take a trip down Elm Street with

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the 2010 remake of Nightmare on Elm Street.

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Imagine this, a group of sleep-deprived teenagers who think pulling an all-nighter

1:01:33

for exam is tough, but little do they know Freddy Krueger has other plans.

1:01:38

Our hero Nancy and her friends start having nightmares, featuring a burn victim

1:01:42

with a fashion-forward choice of finger knives.

1:01:45

Instead of worrying about prom dates, they're

1:01:49

busy figuring out why freddy seems to have a personal

1:01:52

vendetta against their beauty sleep oh beautiful you feeling

1:01:56

good about that i do i feel pretty good uh how do you feel

1:01:59

about him i like him hey man i put a lot of effort in that

1:02:02

god damn it well i'm saying i like it i like that you like overthought it and

1:02:08

you came up with two plots i'm like dude i'm tired of getting burned in the

1:02:12

like everybody's like oh angeles is way better i'm trying guys i'm trying i

1:02:16

just was like Like, I always, like,

1:02:19

paste a copy of the formal plot that they have.

1:02:23

You're always trying to one-up me. It's not cool.

1:02:26

I'm kidding. And I was like, how do I, Angeles, see the plot?

1:02:32

This is how shit went down. No. This is pretty good. I like it.

1:02:36

Hey, I think we do a pretty good job on the plots.

1:02:40

Do you want to get in scene for scene now?

1:02:44

Let's get in the sheets of the scenes. Hey, first off, I want to start...

1:02:49

You die in your sleep, you die for real. Ain't that right? I love that they brought that quote back in this movie.

1:02:59

I think it's Tommy Decker who says it, the guy that goes to jail.

1:03:03

Oh, okay. Die in your sleep, you die for real. For real life?

1:03:08

So the opening scene is we got Dean Russell, the Twilight guy.

1:03:14

He falls asleep at the diner and he's the one to first encounter Freddy.

1:03:18

Ready is this where the opening scene it

1:03:22

shows it it's it's a dream like state

1:03:26

right and he walks and he's he wants

1:03:29

the waitress he's trying to flag her down

1:03:31

and she walks by him he's like god damn it and then

1:03:34

he walks into the kitchen area and then

1:03:37

it's weird they have i don't know why they they chose

1:03:40

this aesthetic but pigs like pig heads

1:03:43

do you know the reason behind that i don't understand does that

1:03:46

make that creepier i i didn't get that part of the movie no i didn't find why

1:03:53

pigs in specific i think they were just trying to be creepy yeah i guess it's

1:03:58

okay but it was a little bit creepy because you do see the classic his hand

1:04:03

comes down and you hear the shing his.

1:04:06

Knife hands and then the guy what's

1:04:09

he do he's like who does he ask who he is or why

1:04:12

are you doing this well no no there's not

1:04:15

much like you you know if

1:04:18

you have seen these movies before you know freddy's coming he's gonna pop

1:04:21

out of somewhere but no he's just kind of following the waitress but then

1:04:24

the guy when he gets back there though then the guy like freddy krueger he doesn't

1:04:29

say anything then he just slashes his hand yeah and he wakes up yeah he just

1:04:33

turns and freddy goes to slap him and then yeah he comes to to awaken nancy

1:04:39

apparently works here as a waitress yeah Yeah, and she's telling him,

1:04:43

hey, man, you can't sleep here. We're going to have to kick you out.

1:04:46

And he's like, I'm sorry, it won't happen again. Clearly, he's super sleep deprived.

1:04:51

His eyes are baggy. A lot going on there.

1:04:54

And so she takes his plate, and then there's blood. It was super bloody steak,

1:04:59

it looked like, but it was his hand. And then he looks down, and there's blood on the table, and he sees the gash

1:05:05

that Freddy put on there. Again, it becomes real. So this is kind of a funny part because then Chris comes in.

1:05:15

And she's another female character in this. She comes in and talks to Dean.

1:05:20

And clearly, I don't know why, there's problems going on.

1:05:24

She knows him. I'm not clear if they're boyfriend-girlfriend at this point or what.

1:05:29

But she has an active interest because she's talking to him and is clearly concerned.

1:05:34

He tells her and divulges, kind of paints the picture why Freddy's here.

1:05:39

And why all of a sudden he's here in their dreams.

1:05:42

He's saying he had trauma. He went to a therapist and they're bringing back

1:05:47

childhood things because I think it's deep rooted trauma.

1:05:50

And obviously it was for Dean. And that's what made Freddy Krueger come back. They remembered him.

1:05:57

Yeah. So what I gather and in previous Nightmare on Elm Street,

1:06:02

it's the kids got to remember him for him to be alive, for him to like haunt them in their dreams.

1:06:08

Yeah. And he makes it clear down on the movie down the road. at

1:06:11

one point he does say that you guys started remembering me that's why

1:06:14

i'm back yeah yeah so you

1:06:18

can think you can thank better help for screwing

1:06:21

these kids over okay if i can make

1:06:24

him remember a fun fact about freddy and

1:06:28

his hand and the glove apparently the gloves

1:06:31

were the most protected prop on the set because in

1:06:34

the previous films they had issues with staffing and

1:06:38

just gloves being stolen seriously yeah this

1:06:41

movie and in other movies as well i have the most notorious

1:06:44

was a glove from one of the film evil dead 2 there

1:06:48

was a another glove in that movie too the one missing oh

1:06:51

really yeah apparently people like i'm trying to think and evil well yeah i

1:06:55

would too come on but after the fact why i wouldn't steal it during it oh yeah

1:07:01

when they're done so that kind of makes sense with this glove because it's so

1:07:04

iconic yeah so people geeking out especially Especially as Nightmare on Elm Street continued.

1:07:09

I probably would have stolen one too. I know. I would have got a pair. I'm like, I'll be walking around. Oh, fuck. We'll see.

1:07:19

So Dean's kind of there. She's talking about it. And then she ends up going

1:07:25

to find help or something because of his hand.

1:07:27

Or no, he spills the coffee because he freaks out. He's like, this is real.

1:07:31

And then he freaks out and spills the coffee. So she goes and finds something to clean up.

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At this point, he spins a knife and he falls asleep.

1:07:40

He's so sleep deprived. He ends up just falling asleep.

1:07:43

And then Freddy comes back, obviously, and has him kind of.

1:07:48

He grabs him from behind. Is that what happens?

1:07:51

Freddy grabs a knife. He does his little cackle. Yeah. Well,

1:07:55

Freddy doesn't grab a knife. He has his hand. Oh, his hand. He cackles. Yeah, he comes from behind.

1:08:02

And Dean's trying to wake himself up. And he's like, you're not real.

1:08:04

You're not real. And he's like, I am now.

1:08:07

And then Chris comes back. And all she's seeing from her end is just Dean with a knife up to his neck.

1:08:13

And she's freaking out. Like, what the hell are you doing? well it

1:08:16

clearly and it looks like he's doing it himself yeah

1:08:20

and it just does the motion which i thought

1:08:23

this was really good i thought it looked good yeah how about you i liked it

1:08:28

it was pretty good getting that that effect of him slicing his own throat was

1:08:32

amazing oh my god for some reason so i haven't seen this movie the last time

1:08:38

i seen this movie it was in. The first time was in theaters when it came out, and that was the only time.

1:08:44

For some reason, I had it in my mind that his shirt got ripped off,

1:08:49

and then, like, Freddie wrote something, like, I'm back, bitch.

1:08:52

But I think that was in a previous, like, movie or something.

1:08:56

Or theatrical release. I just remember that.

1:08:59

But now, when I think about it, it was the throat cut.

1:09:03

But for some reason, I just thought his shirt got ripped off,

1:09:06

and then Freddie wrote something to the kids, but he didn't.

1:09:09

I think it was a different. Yeah, that was a different movie for sure.

1:09:12

That happened at some point. I just forgot which one.

1:09:15

At the restaurant, you also get introduced to Quentin. He's there with some

1:09:19

friends at another table. And what's the other kid? The asshole kid.

1:09:25

His real name's Tommy Decker, I think. Jesse? Yeah, Jesse.

1:09:30

And then there's a third kid. Has nothing to do with it. He's just a...

1:09:33

No, yeah, but they're joking. Apparently, they know that Quentin likes Nancy.

1:09:37

And she comes over and they're like, Like, are you going to ask her?

1:09:40

And she comes over taking their order.

1:09:42

And then they, Jesse is Chris's ex is what you get from this scene.

1:09:47

Well, Quentin's like, hey, man, she's with Dean.

1:09:50

Yeah. And he says that they recently broke up. And, you know,

1:09:53

he's upset that they're hanging out, not knowing what's going on.

1:09:58

So they get up to leave and Quentin stays behind. And Quentin asks Nancy,

1:10:03

he's like, don't you ever get tired of working here every weekend?

1:10:05

And she's like, well, don't you get tired of coming here every weekend?

1:10:09

Yeah, so they have a little exchange, they like each other.

1:10:13

And they end up leaving, and Nancy goes off and does her own thing.

1:10:18

Yeah, Dean dies, and then you get the classic title with the slashy title.

1:10:25

Yeah, and then, so the next scene is, at this point, is Dean's funeral, right?

1:10:32

Mm-hmm. This is where you see every character that's going to be in this movie, pretty much. Yeah.

1:10:38

And Chris is sitting there. She's devastated. Obviously, she just seen Dean slice his own throat.

1:10:44

Yeah. It's kind of in a state of like shock still.

1:10:48

But she ends up, I didn't realize this, she ends up falling asleep.

1:10:52

Oh, there. Yeah, she dozes off and then she sees herself as a little girl. The blue dress.

1:10:58

With gashes down the front of it, like slices from the scissor hands or whatever.

1:11:04

What do you call that glove? Just knife glove? Knife, I think.

1:11:07

Yeah, because he made it himself, right? But yeah, and then the girl is by the hole in the ground where they're going

1:11:14

to put Laydeen to rest, and Freddy's hand comes out and grabs the leg,

1:11:19

and that's when she wakes up. Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:22

Yeah, freaks herself up, wakes up, and then everybody just kind of starts walking

1:11:27

away. They're getting ready to leave this funeral. The counselor approaches to Nancy and her mom, Dr.

1:11:33

Holbrook, and he's like, hey, if you guys need services, I'm right here.

1:11:37

Yeah, long time no see, which is weird. This is what I don't get is, is it a small town or is it a moderate town?

1:11:43

Because they make it seem like the whole town is there.

1:11:47

Yeah. I don't know. I think I got the feeling of a small town.

1:11:52

Yeah, because then he's like, long time, no see.

1:11:54

But you'd think that you'd see each other all the time. I mean,

1:11:56

your kids go to school together. They know each other really well.

1:12:00

Clearly, these people have a past. Maybe they don't talk because of what happened.

1:12:04

But yeah, they kind of mingle a little bit.

1:12:09

Then Chris walks over and they have that, what do you call it?

1:12:12

Not a poster, but they just have all the pictures of Dean.

1:12:16

Yeah, so when someone dies, they have pictures of them.

1:12:20

Pretty much throughout their lives pictures of him specifically as a kid obviously he's only like,

1:12:27

1920 in this movie 18 yeah so they

1:12:30

have pictures as a kid well they have a picture they

1:12:33

brought out and she's in it chris is in it and she's like what

1:12:35

i didn't meet dean till high school why am

1:12:38

i in this picture yeah and even jesse says the same thing he's

1:12:41

like i didn't know you'd need dean for that long and then

1:12:45

this is where nancy rolls up chris

1:12:49

is like yeah you know because she was the last one to have a conversation with

1:12:52

dean and she's like he just kept saying something over and over that was weird

1:12:56

you're not real over and over and jesse's like well you know he was in a lot

1:13:01

of medications a truckload of medication yeah but she's like i don't know it

1:13:05

just looked like someone was making him do it the way he was holding the knife

1:13:09

she's like but there was like Like, no one there.

1:13:11

And Jesse's being dismissive, but Nancy rolls up.

1:13:14

She's like, and because Chris is like, she's starting to see it.

1:13:18

And she's like, I'm believing him. And Nancy's like, I believe you.

1:13:21

I've seen it too. And then Jesse's like, hey, man, back the fuck off. She's in distress.

1:13:27

She's seen it. You didn't see shit. Asshole. Yeah, like, he's just a prick.

1:13:33

But I wish, and we'll get into a little bit more in the movie,

1:13:36

Jesse, they could have made him even more of an asshole. And they did it. They...

1:13:41

Loved him. Yeah, throttled back on it. I felt like they could have done a little

1:13:45

bit more to make you hate him a little bit more. Because he's clearly an asshole.

1:13:49

Yeah. But they kind of stop at that funeral part because then he does...

1:13:55

Later we'll we'll hit the scene but he he comes over but so after this point you see.

1:14:02

They're all house yeah she's in bed listening

1:14:05

to music and this is where she gets

1:14:08

her first well we see her first

1:14:12

encounter that we see on film yeah of freddie

1:14:16

and her interaction and then you get this visual she's

1:14:19

falling asleep falls into dream state and then

1:14:22

you see the wallpaper paper kind of warp and

1:14:25

start moving just from the angle in the camera that they have and

1:14:28

then you kind of start seeing freddy's face just

1:14:32

kind of come out you can see the outline of his face and it looks like he's

1:14:36

about to get her and she wakes up yeah so the funny part of this i was reading

1:14:41

multiple spots that this was a practical effect no way bull fucking shit it was not now i

1:14:50

know this effect is real they probably did have a mesh screen

1:14:53

that like he pushed on to do

1:14:56

it but they fucking cgi'd the fuck out of that practical effect oh yeah but

1:15:00

man they're trying to push it like that was all practical effect that's fucking

1:15:03

bullshit that is not because you can kind of see the digital wallpaper it is

1:15:09

it's totally fake it glistens and shit the way that it runs it's so It's so smooth and seamless.

1:15:15

It's CGI, which I don't care, but don't try to fucking bullshit a bullshitter,

1:15:21

bro. Yeah, I'm like, dude, no.

1:15:23

I can spot practical effects because we watch these 80s movies.

1:15:28

Oh, yeah. Those are all practical effects. Really good and really well done. This you can compare.

1:15:35

Cgi let's be real let's be real i saw something

1:15:38

we can talk a little bit more about later they try to say the

1:15:40

same thing about his face that it was all makeup and

1:15:43

it's so frustrating because it's like dude you're lying to me to my face like

1:15:48

clearly he did have makeup on yeah but you cgi'd the fuck out of it yeah and

1:15:53

you i'm curious to see what it would have looked like without that cgi i think

1:15:57

they would have they could have done a better job and it probably looked pretty good Yeah.

1:16:01

Without CGI, why? I would love to see a picture of that, because even Jackie

1:16:04

said that at first it was taking six hours to sit down and do the makeup.

1:16:08

And then as they started doing it more and more, it cut down to three hours.

1:16:12

Well, what does that look like? Well, yeah, they're like, we'll just CGI this. So that, I think,

1:16:20

is what derailed this movie. Little things like that, where the detail, they started dialing back.

1:16:26

And we're in that era of CGI. CGI, yes, we're in that era, 2010.

1:16:33

You know, we start seeing it really bad, 2005 and onward, where we start seeing the CGI going hardcore.

1:16:40

Where we had it from Jurassic Park, and it was ramping up, but you really see

1:16:46

it from 2005 on, and it just, it gets better over time.

1:16:51

Don't get me wrong, but we just, 2010, we weren't quite there yet on this.

1:16:56

It was the auto-tune to music.

1:16:59

Yeah, yeah. Were you had Transformers, Michael Bay, CGI? Not bad.

1:17:04

Not bad. I could live with it. I get it. They're fictional robots, cars.

1:17:09

Which Freddy Krueger is fictional, right? But there's a person behind it.

1:17:13

You can't give them the same sheen as a Transformer. You know what I mean?

1:17:18

They hired the same company, I think, to do it.

1:17:22

I don't know. I'm just saying from what I'm seeing that it just didn't work

1:17:27

right. The CGI didn't work right. I think they could have done better if they were going that route,

1:17:32

which I don't think they should have. But, yeah, so that's her first experience. That freaks her out,

1:17:38

obviously. What happens next? You go to Chris's house.

1:17:43

She's still not letting shit go because everybody's telling her it's a dream, let it go.

1:17:47

Because she was telling the exact same thing to Dean before he died.

1:17:52

But now she's seeing things. And she's going through, but she's going through photos. And her mom's like, what are you doing?

1:17:59

And she's like, well, and she's trying to say, hey, pack that shit up. Time for dinner.

1:18:04

Yeah. and trying to move it on. Yeah, she's like, where's all my childhood pictures?

1:18:08

Like, they're not in this album here. She's like, at the funeral, I saw a picture of me.

1:18:13

And she's like, oh, those old things? I think they're in the attic.

1:18:16

Yeah, and she was like, it looked like I was five. And the mom,

1:18:19

totally, who would remember being five? Yeah.

1:18:23

And yeah, pushing the- Let's be honest. Do you remember being five?

1:18:27

I don't. I do. I had an adorable uniform.

1:18:30

I do. I remember bits and pieces. He says, I remember this kid in kindergarten

1:18:34

who, I think his name was Chris.

1:18:37

He, in the bathroom, I thought it was always weird. He peed with his pants all

1:18:41

the way down at the urinal. I'm like, what the fuck? You're doing it wrong.

1:18:45

But he was learning still. I'm like, dude, you're doing it wrong.

1:18:49

And he never figured it out. It was like half the school year. I'm like, bro.

1:18:53

I remember there was one kindergarten and the entire time where I lived.

1:18:59

Yeah. And it was completely opposite side of town from where I lived.

1:19:03

And it was kind of on the outskirts of the town. So we had to walk.

1:19:08

I had to walk from one end of the town all the way to the other end of the town to go to kindergarten.

1:19:13

And first at the start of the school year, like my mom would walk me.

1:19:17

And after that, it just became a thing to where I would walk to school.

1:19:23

And in the way, like you would meet other little kids and then just kind of make it.

1:19:27

It was a little creepy at times. Yeah.

1:19:29

Depending on the season, like I said, it's kind of on the outskirts because

1:19:32

you would get to the kindergarten. You had your campus of the school. Right. And then on one end,

1:19:37

it was like a few houses, not a lot.

1:19:40

But on the back end of it, it was just woods. And that was it.

1:19:42

There was no houses back there or nothing. Ooh, creepy.

1:19:45

So we would tell creepy stories back there. Like, did you know there's a cemetery

1:19:50

under the kindergarten? You guys are wild. Dark. Maybe shut up. Dark, man. But yeah,

1:19:57

we had to wear a uniform for school.

1:20:00

I just remember bits and pieces of teachers.

1:20:05

Someone, they did a sleepover at the school one time.

1:20:08

Nice. I didn't get to go, but I did get to go back on Monday and someone had a pee pee accident.

1:20:14

So that was like everybody was laughing about like someone left their pee underwear there.

1:20:18

It's fucked up. You guys are fucked up, man. Why? We didn't know who did it.

1:20:22

We just found the underwear in the cafeteria.

1:20:25

Who? I got a question. Everybody had one. Who was the stinky kid in your class?

1:20:29

I don't know. I don't remember. You don't remember the stinky kid? I can't remember.

1:20:34

It's driving me nuts. We had one. You can call him out by name.

1:20:37

I know. And I felt so bad every year. I had him in my class until fifth grade.

1:20:43

That poor kid stunk, dude. Dude, he was the stinky kid for, like,

1:20:47

it had to have been a record. We didn't have stinky kids. We had a kid whose family couldn't afford to buy his uniform.

1:20:57

So he would have, like, the shirt that was the colors of the school.

1:20:59

Yeah. But this poor kid, sometimes he would actually show up with the pants

1:21:03

that went to the uniform, sometimes shorts, and sometimes other stuff.

1:21:06

Yeah. Just because he only had one pair of pants, it seemed like. Dude, that sucks. Yeah.

1:21:11

And you guys made fun of him relentlessly. That's fucked up,

1:21:14

dude. I didn't. It's so bad for him because I've told you stories of like our

1:21:17

lunchtime at times. Yeah. He was the kid that would wait and his mom would never show up to bring him lunch.

1:21:23

Fuck. Wait, your parents had to show up to give lunch?

1:21:26

They had lunch at school, but it was not free. You had to pay for it.

1:21:30

So it was cheaper for your parents to make you lunch and bring you lunch to

1:21:32

school. They'd bring it to you though? They'd bring it.

1:21:36

They didn't pack it? Lunch bags were expensive and they were not a thing really.

1:21:41

Only the kids with money had lunch bags. Dang, man. If I would have knew you,

1:21:46

I would have mailed you one. Shut the hell up. You're dumb. Leftovers. I don't want that shit. I want a Transformers lunch bag.

1:21:57

How would you know? And actually, it wasn't Transformers. It was Ninja Turtles. Close.

1:22:02

That was my next guess. Fuck. That's hilarious.

1:22:08

Okay, let's get back to this fucking movie. So she packs it up,

1:22:12

but later it shows her, right? She goes to the attic.

1:22:16

Yeah. But we find out she's dreaming because she opens the box.

1:22:21

And I thought this was weird because it caught me off guard for a second.

1:22:23

She opens the box, and I thought she was awake. And she opens up, and she sees the dress.

1:22:29

I'm like, why didn't the mom keep that fucking dress? Right?

1:22:32

And then there was something else she found in there. A doll.

1:22:35

A really old doll. Yeah. like a where'd you touch me doll oh my gosh richard

1:22:41

i'm just saying i'm just saying,

1:22:44

my raggedy doll yeah uh where'd

1:22:47

the bad man touch you doll which is weird but a

1:22:50

fitting touch this movie but that's when

1:22:53

you find out she's dreaming because then it's like something weird happens

1:22:56

she turns around and like you wait

1:22:59

for him to jump at some point and he does he jumps on

1:23:02

her and doesn't he make a comment he's like oh you look even better than you

1:23:06

did back then that was nancy he had the hots for but he said something about

1:23:11

her too he's like do you remember me and she wakes up and she's in her bed just

1:23:17

really upset and then the next thing they take you to the school.

1:23:21

And then you see Quentin and Nancy have another interaction.

1:23:25

He's asking if she's okay. You need someone to talk to. I'll get down your pants.

1:23:31

And he has this, the one thing, I love myself, but no.

1:23:36

Why does his face look like he's in pain? He just has this look like, mm.

1:23:40

He does all the time. He has a pouty face. He's kind of a quintessential for our era, emo.

1:23:46

Emo he is. He's the emo kid. he looked a lot like his character a little bit

1:23:52

like he's like his face like the character he has the piercings he has that

1:23:58

face like he's gonna say to live is to die.

1:24:03

Maybe he did off camera but what are they talking about just that and teacher

1:24:10

says quentin good class his dad his dad Dad, yeah.

1:24:14

His haja. And then in class, you see Chris again falling asleep.

1:24:20

And Jess is just kind of watching her from afar.

1:24:24

Well, now they're in class and they're focusing and then she dozes off.

1:24:28

They're flipping through the book. She's flipping through the book that they're reading in class. Yeah.

1:24:34

And then the pictures start getting weird. And then she sees there's like a

1:24:39

claw that scratches on the page.

1:24:41

Bloody. bloody and then she kind of that starts

1:24:45

giving it off for her and she's telling herself like doesn't she go out

1:24:47

and like a girl like takes her like she

1:24:51

herself says follow me and freddie's

1:24:55

like one two like he's counting like he's gonna go play hide and seek yeah in

1:25:01

this scene right first she tells herself she's trying to first wake herself

1:25:05

up she knows that she's falling and then asleep and then it has like this like

1:25:09

poof effect in the movie yes like a fog and it's all burnt yeah.

1:25:14

It looks like the building has been burned down. I thought this was a cool effect

1:25:17

when she does that because first she's in class and then all of a sudden it does change.

1:25:22

But it does a really cool effect of getting smoky or whatever.

1:25:25

And then bam, it looks like hell. Yeah, and again, she's sitting there telling herself to wake up. And you hear Freddy.

1:25:32

And he's like, you really shouldn't fall asleep in class.

1:25:36

And this is where he starts being creepy. He's like, you look as beautiful as ever. Yeah, exactly.

1:25:42

My skin crawled. And I was like, no. And she panics and she gets out of that room.

1:25:47

And then she sees a girl, but it's her as a child. She's like, come on, we got to go.

1:25:53

Not yet, babe. Oh, what happens? Come on. She wakes up screaming. She wakes up.

1:25:57

At that point, she does? She wakes up and then she sees that there's some strands

1:26:02

of her actual hair on the book. So Freddie did get her a little bit. Yeah, she screams and freaks everybody

1:26:07

out. Everybody's like, whoa. And the teacher, hey, are you all right? And she runs out of the class,

1:26:13

and then Jessie yells after her.

1:26:16

She goes back home, and at her house.

1:26:20

Which, as a parent, would you leave your kid after something she just witnessed

1:26:25

her friend slices on the throat?

1:26:28

Would you leave for work? I know you have to work, but let's be real.

1:26:33

I mean, you could take some sick days here. Yeah. My kid just witnessed something

1:26:37

horrific. Obviously, she's struggling. Oh, traumatizing. wouldn't you take a few days well maybe you wouldn't

1:26:42

but you're a workaholic i

1:26:45

know but something that tragic yeah that's pretty like hardcore man hardcore

1:26:50

and something to really worry about like oh is my kid okay yeah she finds her

1:26:55

dirt dog outside rufus and she's like come on let's go inside and back she goes

1:27:00

to the freaking inside the mom comes down she's like some flight attendant.

1:27:05

Says that she's going to be out of town for work. Yeah, but she does that.

1:27:08

So are you sure you're going to be okay? Yeah. She's like, try to sleep.

1:27:11

I'll call you when I land. And then it's nighttime. And then she finds some newspaper.

1:27:18

And then she's reading over Dean's obituary. Yeah.

1:27:21

And then she hears noises, like, outside, some rustling and stuff.

1:27:25

And then Jesse pops outside the window, which I think was a little reference.

1:27:30

Like, it reminded me of Scream. Yeah. When he pops in and he's like, bleh. yeah he comes to the window why nobody's

1:27:37

home just comes to the front door like creep, she yeah and then he's like i'm gonna be honest you

1:27:43

know i've been jealous and an asshole but dean was my

1:27:46

friend so like filming and what is really going on you guys are talking about

1:27:50

these dreams and so and he's not admitting it right now but he's having those

1:27:55

dreams too he's just trying to be like like cool about it cool yeah and then

1:28:02

she mentions that every time she falls When she falls asleep,

1:28:04

there's a man in her dreams. He's really burnt up, a little melted away. And then this is where he does admit, he's like, yeah.

1:28:11

Knives on his fingers. And they kind of put to, Chris does, she's like,

1:28:16

whoa, we're having a shared dream. And he's like, no way, get the fuck out of here.

1:28:22

Yeah, and she's like, all I want to do is sleep. And he's like,

1:28:24

well, how about this? He's like, you know, maybe we don't talk about him or about the dream.

1:28:30

You won't dream about him. What she actually is right.

1:28:35

And then, so I guess they go to sleep. And you hear barking outside.

1:28:41

You assume it's Rufus. And Chris wakes up. She opens the door.

1:28:45

She's like, what the hell is the dog doing outside again? She can't find him. She just hears the barking. So she's walking outside.

1:28:51

It's all dark and foggy. You get this eerie feeling, like waiting for Freddy

1:28:56

to come around again. Yeah. And she finds Rufus, and he's dead. He's got the classic flash.

1:29:02

He has the flashes on him. Yeah. And then Freddy makes his little appearance,

1:29:06

and he's like, oh, I was just petting him.

1:29:09

Yeah. So those are the quips they tried to do, but they're not as effective.

1:29:14

No. So she goes inside, and this is the scene that you were just talking about.

1:29:18

She goes inside her house, but it's not her house. It's the school. Yeah, the preschool. Mm-hmm.

1:29:23

You see, like, the little kid writing with chalk on the walls,

1:29:27

the little letters. And then, yeah, the little girl grabs her by the hand, and she's like, come on.

1:29:32

He's going to get us. But is that little girl? It's her, right?

1:29:35

Yeah. Yeah, it's a little kid. And she grabs her, and then she starts walking. But then she stops like an idiot,

1:29:42

but what are you going to do? And Freddy's up against the wall counting, like, hide and seek like you would.

1:29:47

And then she's just petrified staring at

1:29:50

him and then he looks at her right yeah he's

1:29:53

like ready or not here i come yeah one

1:29:57

thing that i saw that they kept doing over and over throughout this movie was

1:30:01

again making reference to the older movies doing that scene with little girls

1:30:05

jumping on the jumping rope and singing that song yeah one two yeah the classic

1:30:10

a lot what she freddie says He says it in his own way, Jackie Earl Haley does.

1:30:17

Yeah. He's like, I'm coming for you.

1:30:20

Yeah, and then before anything, well, before she thinks anything happens, she wakes up.

1:30:26

And then she goes to use the restroom, trying to cool off and be like, I'm good.

1:30:30

She goes back to bed and lays down next to Jesse. Yeah. And it's Freddy there.

1:30:35

And he's like, I found you. And she's freaking out. Oh, yeah, found you. Yeah, she's freaking out in her dream.

1:30:41

Yeah. And Jesse tries to wake her up. Well, and it looks like she's having a

1:30:45

seizure. A seizure, yeah. He's like, whoa, Chris, Chris.

1:30:48

And all of a sudden, she levitates. Oh, yeah.

1:30:52

And starts shaking. He's freaking out. He's like, what the fuck?

1:30:55

And at this point they do

1:30:58

this is cool because this was in the first movie too

1:31:01

with the same character they use

1:31:04

the rotating room and uh just fling her

1:31:07

all over the place i thought this was pretty effective

1:31:10

and they're beating the hell out of her and

1:31:13

then all of a sudden he slices her

1:31:16

chest yeah and she falls and blood

1:31:20

splatters everywhere it's all over jesse see at

1:31:24

this point he gets freaked out he's like oh

1:31:26

fuck i gotta get out of here he starts ringing

1:31:29

outside okay he trips the alarm yeah and

1:31:32

i got a note here i put boyfriend

1:31:36

trips the house alarm the whole police force comes out blonde hair blue eyes

1:31:42

no wonder and then i put not in my neighborhood what the fuck they're not not

1:31:48

everybody's coming down here no cavalry you're Lucky to see one in an hour.

1:31:52

Like, it ain't happening. But yeah, the whole police force in full effect chasing, going.

1:31:58

You hear it immediately. It's like, dude, get the fuck out of here.

1:32:02

And then he panics and runs.

1:32:06

Which, how do you explain it? I mean, that's pretty smart. Like,

1:32:09

get the fuck out of there, I guess. But then what I don't get is...

1:32:13

He's running in the neighborhood. I didn't think Nancy and him were that close.

1:32:18

How did he know what room Nancy was in and to where to go?

1:32:24

He went to her window pretty quickly and it's second story.

1:32:28

He's fucking a super fast runner. But it didn't make sense because I didn't

1:32:32

think their relationship was like that. Listen, he climbed up Chris's window pretty effortless. So that makes sense

1:32:39

to go to Chris's window. I'm not disputing that one, but Nancy's,

1:32:45

that doesn't make sense because she's an introvert.

1:32:48

You can tell they weren't close like that. And back at the restaurant,

1:32:50

he was like making fun of Quentin for even like, I don't know,

1:32:53

having a crush on her or something. That's what I got. Which I get why he went and talked to her because he's like,

1:33:00

hey, this shit's real. She just got attacked or whatever.

1:33:03

And she's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, he's like, I didn't do this.

1:33:08

We got to figure it out. and then that's when nancy's

1:33:11

like freddy is the name he's like yeah freddy krueger

1:33:14

or whatever yeah she mentions that she's been hearing that song and

1:33:17

he's like you gotta figure it out you gotta help me and then

1:33:21

he jumps out the window oh and then before he leaves that's when he gives her

1:33:25

her her life advice to not fall asleep yeah you die in your dreams you die for

1:33:31

real and he jumps out the window and then all of a sudden the cops are just

1:33:36

on a full-on manhunt because he killed a blonde-haired and blue-eyed girl,

1:33:40

in a very privileged neighborhood.

1:33:44

And they tackle him on the ground. They're like, get down, fucker.

1:33:47

And he's screaming, I didn't do it. And everybody's kind of looking out there.

1:33:53

I did bring up, because I have a note on this too, is in the first movie,

1:33:58

you watched the first one after this one, right? Yes. Just to get a palate cleanser.

1:34:02

I missed the, here's my note, I miss the cop dad element of the first movie.

1:34:08

So the dad was a police chief or a police officer, Nancy. Oh, Nancy. Nancy's dad.

1:34:15

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't have them in this.

1:34:18

Nancy's dad doesn't exist, which I think maybe they did it to make it different.

1:34:22

But I miss that element of it, like doing an investigation on top of it of what's going on.

1:34:30

Because it keeps the story going, but it also adds another element.

1:34:33

Because she has an N a little bit in the first movie. Yeah, exactly.

1:34:37

So I don't know. I just, I was like, fuck, man, they should have added a cop

1:34:41

dad in this. But they didn't do that.

1:34:44

And they essentially replaced the cop dad with. The teacher? No, Quentin.

1:34:50

He serves as kind of that a little bit, a little in between.

1:34:54

Where he's kind of the Johnny Depp character slash dad character.

1:34:59

I think they molded that character to make it work that way.

1:35:01

Because essentially he's helping her along the way and the cop does kind of

1:35:07

help at the end. Yeah. Not really, but he's there.

1:35:09

Yeah. Kind of like Quentin does. Mm-hmm.

1:35:13

But so at this point, he gets arrested. He's in the jail cell.

1:35:18

He's freaking out. He's like going on full on crazy, hitting his head.

1:35:23

Tapping his feet. Yeah. You can tell he's annoying everyone in his cell.

1:35:26

Well, the one guy, he's like, what the fuck, dude? Chill out.

1:35:30

And which I think I would be too. I'd be, if I was in a jail cell like that

1:35:34

for murder, I'd be freaking, dude. Especially what I've seen. I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, yeah.

1:35:40

Nancy calls Quentin and she's like, hey, you said if I ever need anything.

1:35:43

And like give you a call you need to talk fyi chris

1:35:47

is dead he's like what yeah i

1:35:51

like the cell phones we weren't quite at the smartphone era

1:35:54

yet flip phones yeah flip phones sidekicks

1:35:58

you know they're awesome i don't

1:36:01

get blackberries they're cool i had a blackberry i had a blackjack two oh shit

1:36:06

yeah samsung blackjack two it was sick i wish people could see your two your

1:36:12

fingers going up hey i love that phone that phone was fucking sick and then you go to a bookstore,

1:36:21

and quentin is there researching side effects of insomnia and he's falling asleep

1:36:27

and you can tell like the screensaver on the computer becomes animated that

1:36:32

was cool i thought that was cool cj. And then he sees a little girl in the bookstore and she

1:36:39

runs away and so he's walking towards

1:36:42

it and again you're getting this like sense of

1:36:45

dream because the walls as you're walking by they kind

1:36:48

of warp in and out a little bit and there's absolutely

1:36:51

no one in this bookstore it's just him and then you're

1:36:54

here again the one two song from far back

1:36:57

yeah and if he gets up close there's

1:37:00

freddie and right as

1:37:03

he turns as freddie turns around to look at him and he sees him

1:37:06

face to face nancy wakes him up and she's

1:37:09

like bad dreams is it freddie again and then

1:37:11

yeah and you said this is where they discover about night

1:37:14

micro naps and stuff i thought that

1:37:17

was a cool element to this bringing that up like uh just saying it like oh man

1:37:22

you're so tired you go to sleep you don't even know it you're you're awake but

1:37:27

still napping which i thought was a pretty Pretty cool take on that because

1:37:30

the other movies don't cover it like that. You just fall asleep and you fall asleep.

1:37:35

That's it. But this one, you're still awake, but you're so sleep deprived that

1:37:40

your reality is blurring. You don't know what's real, what's not.

1:37:44

I thought that was cool as Freddy's coming in.

1:37:47

And that's kind of a plan of Freddy, too, especially with Nancy.

1:37:51

He's trying to get her so tired that she'll eventually, because they hit that,

1:37:55

that you get so sleep deprived you go into a coma.

1:37:59

And so Freddy's trying to get Nancy to that so he keeps her forever.

1:38:03

He isn't trying to kill her. He just wants her in his world.

1:38:08

Yeah. Which I thought was a cool take also where the other film didn't do that,

1:38:14

didn't want it like that. He was just trying to attack her.

1:38:16

Immediately, yeah. quick kills yeah it added to the

1:38:19

fatuation i know you didn't like that part about the kids and

1:38:22

the tri-mo stuff but i thought that was a

1:38:25

cool take on that like oh he's still obsessed with her yeah so which is i thought

1:38:31

if he liked kids yeah never mind they're not kids anymore at this point no i

1:38:37

mean they're they're teenagers they're young adults yeah but you know i don't know No, no.

1:38:43

But I just thought it was kind of an interesting take.

1:38:46

You go to jail and then you see Jesse again. Oh, yeah. The cop opens the door.

1:38:51

He's like, hey, man, your parents posted bail.

1:38:54

Which you just got accused of murdering your girlfriend.

1:38:58

And the whole police force came to attack you from a house alarm.

1:39:01

Now they're letting you go. Which, dude, Brinks home alarm system.

1:39:07

If that was you guys, man, kudos. You got the whole police force.

1:39:10

That alarm system's got to cost big bucks.

1:39:15

Anyways, he walks out. He starts walking.

1:39:18

And all of a sudden, he looks behind him. And it's just a brick wall for what

1:39:23

he was at, where he was at. It's just like there.

1:39:25

And then he starts freaking out. He's like, oh, shit. I'm sleeping.

1:39:29

And starts walking down. And then it turns into the boiler room. Yeah.

1:39:34

He hears Chris. I think it's Chris. It's supposed to be Chris yelling for him for help.

1:39:39

Yeah. And then the other thing, yeah, and then this is where you get another whip of, like.

1:39:43

You see two girls. So you see Chris and Nancy as kids.

1:39:47

Yeah, they're up there behind, like, bars. Yeah. Just looking down.

1:39:51

And he don't care. He's like, fuck, I'm freaking out, dude. This fucker's somewhere.

1:39:56

And then you hear the glove knives just running.

1:40:01

And I think they did that too much.

1:40:06

Like, playfulness with the glove. like yeah you get it i just come on dude that's

1:40:11

where you maybe don't dial jack your haley back and let him improvise a little

1:40:17

bit because you just kept to the same thing throughout the whole movie that

1:40:21

was his creepy element yeah which was not very creepy.

1:40:27

And then once he gets down there, though, he sees them hanging, the bodies, right?

1:40:32

Like body bags from hooks on the wall. Chris and Dean are hanging there.

1:40:37

And then Freddy shows up, right? Yeah. And again, they're trying to make him be funny.

1:40:43

And Jesse's like, oh, God. And Freddy's like, nope, just me.

1:40:47

Oh, yeah. He's like, oh, God. He's like, oh, no, just me.

1:40:52

Yeah. And he's like, why are you screaming? I haven't caught you yet.

1:40:54

So he disappears for a minute. And he curls up in a ball.

1:40:58

Yeah, and he's just, you know, keeping an eye out. Where is he coming?

1:41:02

And then he comes from behind him with a claw and then cuts him in the back. I thought that was cool.

1:41:11

Is this the point where he dies? Yeah. So he, like, punches through his back

1:41:15

all the way through his chest. It doesn't show the back in the reality world, but he's lifted up and then bursts through.

1:41:23

And the guy in the background the his his cell

1:41:26

partner yeah he's like what the fuck i didn't do it i

1:41:29

didn't do it which clearly bro you didn't fucking do it how are you gonna do

1:41:33

this oh yeah and his chest burst out how i know this kid was a fucking asshole

1:41:38

though was freddie's like oh man the brain lives for another 10 minutes we get

1:41:44

to have some more fun and the kid's like ah.

1:41:48

Which i wish they would have made him more of an asshole because

1:41:51

it would have been more effective but i felt like

1:41:54

this one i was cheering for freddie i was like this kid's a fucking pos i hate

1:41:59

him torture his ass i wasn't hating him as much and yeah like i said they could

1:42:06

have did a little bit better by making you hate him a little bit more i knew

1:42:10

they were trying to go with him but they just didn't do enough of it,

1:42:15

Like he should have been the boyfriend that was beating Chris.

1:42:19

That would have been. Oh my God. And then you're like, oh yeah,

1:42:21

let's fucking get him. Yeah. Six minutes. Play with his head.

1:42:25

You go back to the bookstore and Quentin and Nancy are there.

1:42:29

And this is where Quentin pulls out his pills. I pause at the movie to see what they were called. Zonerol.

1:42:35

Oh, so that's in the Freddy versus Jason, I believe. Is that what they call it?

1:42:41

I didn't, I don't know. A little reference. Yeah. Yeah, and he's like,

1:42:44

it's speed for kids with ADHD. And he's like, it's fine. I've been on them since I was 13. This is nothing.

1:42:50

Yeah, I think they call it that. Maybe they don't. Maybe I'm mixing up.

1:42:53

There's medication there. Not that they give it. Yeah, the make them not dream. Oh.

1:42:59

Was the medication. I thought it was. Maybe it's not. It's on the third one.

1:43:03

Dream Weavers? No. Dream Warriors.

1:43:06

Dream Warriors. Hashtag dude, Dawkin.

1:43:09

Dawkin. Dawkin did the album for Dream Warriors.

1:43:12

Oh my fucking god i think you're talking about the third one because nancy is

1:43:16

the one with dream warriors no no i mean with the with the medication she keeps

1:43:20

no freddy versus jason has it too but that was freddy versus jason is they had

1:43:25

him on the medication not to dream, oh because on this one she's on some medication so just on the third one to

1:43:31

put the kids on it too yeah docking the dream warriors that song fucking rocks

1:43:36

look it up if you haven't i love it and then And Nancy,

1:43:42

I don't, yeah, she wants nothing to do with this. She's like, no, thank you.

1:43:46

And then she notices that Quentin is wearing like a crucifix.

1:43:50

And she's like, oh, I didn't take you for like the religious kind or something

1:43:53

like that. And he's like, well, you got to believe in something, right?

1:43:57

And then he says that he found a book that was called The Pied Piper of Hamelin.

1:44:03

Essentially, it was a story about a guy who was betrayed by his town.

1:44:06

And now he was taking revenge on the children. So he thinks that that kind of,

1:44:09

like, is his Freddy story.

1:44:12

And then, yeah, this is where they research that at the 70 hour of,

1:44:16

like, not getting any consistent sleep, you start doing those micro-naps, like you mentioned.

1:44:21

Yeah. Where the brain tries to shut itself down to recharge.

1:44:26

And then... And this is where they're finally in his Jeep. Yeah.

1:44:31

Filing filing his what like nancy

1:44:35

and quentin they're in the jeep and they drive

1:44:38

to the little uh grocery store quickie mart

1:44:40

oh no not yet they go to nancy's house

1:44:44

oh yeah that's right and then her mom freaks out yeah what are you doing yeah

1:44:49

she's like what are you doing she's like scribbling this dark fucking creepy

1:44:53

drawings and she's fuck you mom i have emotions okay yeah and nancy asked She's like, hey,

1:45:01

like, just curious, like, was there ever a connection with, like,

1:45:04

any of the other teams? Maybe when we were little.

1:45:07

She's like, oh, like, playing it off. I don't know. I can't recall anything.

1:45:11

She's like, what about someone named Freddie? And she's like,

1:45:13

no. But her eyes. I don't know anything. Her reaction is, like, stunned for a second. Yeah, like, oh,

1:45:19

shit. So you know they know something. Yeah, so she goes, Dr. Hulbrook, and calls Quentin's dad. And she's like,

1:45:25

hey, FYI, like, Nancy's starting to remember.

1:45:29

And nancy goes to take a bath oh that's

1:45:32

right and this is another shared scene so that's what

1:45:35

i like about this movie is it has scenes from

1:45:38

the first movie it plays it it pays its

1:45:41

respects so yeah because i like this part of the movie they do a pretty good

1:45:45

job just like the first one they do a pretty good job in the tub yeah with a

1:45:50

more modern take on it too because you have a cell phone with a timer on it

1:45:54

yeah that's one thing i saw when i was researching is they try I tried to do a lot of the scenes.

1:46:00

To, you know, pay respects to what's Craven and the original movie and try to keep them.

1:46:06

Which, in the end, some people kind of bit them back in the ass because they

1:46:11

thought they, you know, viewers were calling it lazy for just plagiarizing the

1:46:16

original movie by taking those scenes.

1:46:20

I don't agree with it because it's supposed to be a remake. Yeah. Yeah.

1:46:23

What she, she puts headphones in, right? And then she.

1:46:26

A timer in her phone. Yeah, a timer in her phone. and then

1:46:29

there's an angle with her legs which i was like why are

1:46:32

we looking at this angle but that's the whole point of

1:46:35

it that's like the first movie they did that so when

1:46:38

i wrote a note it says who the f takes a bath in that position i have never

1:46:44

because usually i don't know i don't take baths i've taken baths but i stretch

1:46:48

out my legs like you want to get soaked in there and not sit there with your

1:46:51

knees but not everybody's five foot still like she's clearly like five six

1:46:57

five seven but her legs are like really uh bent yeah i know where they're going

1:47:02

but i was like come on yeah and then the hand she dozes off the hand comes up

1:47:07

but then the mom knocks on the door like in the first movie the hand comes back

1:47:11

down i thought that was cool. And then she's she gets up out of the tub but then she walks to her room and

1:47:19

i thought this This was a really cool scene. It's the snow. It's snowing. And living in Washington, that snow looked pretty realistic.

1:47:28

Yeah, they did a pretty good job. I've seen fake snow in movies,

1:47:30

and I'm like, it looks nothing like. You can tell when people step on it. It's like the dry stuff.

1:47:35

But this one, it was living in Prince. It had a good effect. It looked realistic.

1:47:41

No, he did a killer job at that, directing that.

1:47:44

And I thought that was cool. And this is where she has an interaction with Freddie,

1:47:48

what she's like ah i set an alarm and he's like you set that in your dreams

1:47:53

yeah and this point she's in the school she's like walking and she's back at

1:47:58

the school and sees that there's a sign yeah and freddy greets her he's like

1:48:03

hi red little nancy all grown up.

1:48:07

And he's like don't you remember me like you must have you were my number one

1:48:11

so she was his favorite at one point yeah creepy he's like you were my little

1:48:15

nancy and like sniffs her face which i was like i was like i don't like that

1:48:20

it's like yeah reminds me of a cannibal when he's like.

1:48:25

Yeah and he's like you smell different i was like stop touching her you smell different he does make

1:48:33

that comment that's fucking weird what are you supposed to smell like i don't

1:48:36

know little girls it's fucking creepy and then yeah and then quentin calls nancy he wakes her up,

1:48:46

and he's like hey he's like it got to jesse he died in his sleep and you you

1:48:52

take a look at quentin he's fighting his leap i noticed that there was like

1:48:56

red wool cans all over his desk the eyes everybody's eyes that's why i liked

1:49:00

in this movie as they went on their eyes got Got really black.

1:49:03

They really did a good job with that point. Where you could tell they're declining in sleep.

1:49:10

And yeah. And so he goes to her house. To Nancy's house.

1:49:16

And she says that one of her drawings that she has. She drew this school after

1:49:20

her dream. And he's like oh I've never seen this before.

1:49:23

Which I thought this was a cool element too. That they added to this movie. She is a drawer.

1:49:28

So she drew Freddy. What he looked like. I wish they would have did a little

1:49:32

bit more, but she was drawing it, drew the preschool, exactly what it looked like.

1:49:37

I thought this was a really cool part and element of this movie to make it different.

1:49:44

So apparently Quentin has a sleepover at her house because the next day they're

1:49:49

going through Nancy's mom's stuff in her bedroom.

1:49:52

And then they find a picture tucked away underneath everything,

1:49:55

that preschool picture. Yeah. With all the kids as kids. I mean, it's like that preschool Ohio, 1994 to 1995.

1:50:05

Right. And her mom walks in and she's like, hey, the hell are they doing?

1:50:09

Give me that picture back. Yeah, she freaks out. She's like, what the hell are you doing looking at Quentin?

1:50:14

Not Nancy, just Quentin. Yeah.

1:50:18

And Nancy's like, wait, you fucking lied. I thought there was no connection

1:50:22

and there's a picture and all of them are there. Yeah, and then she flips the

1:50:25

picture over and you see all the kids names on there.

1:50:28

Mm-hmm, which cool little thing So the names on the back of the picture they

1:50:32

were actual like film crew members names that they put in the back Oh,

1:50:37

that's cool. That's kind of cool. Yeah, and she's like, I'm sorry like I hit it.

1:50:41

Yeah, I just didn't want you to remember Yeah, um, yeah, I didn't want you remember

1:50:45

often this and then she tells him this story. Oh, oh Freddy and.

1:50:51

Back, way back in the name, or back in the day, there was a man at the school,

1:50:55

and his name was... Fred Krueger. Fred Krueger.

1:50:58

And you see Freddy in his normal clothes. They're taking the school picture.

1:51:05

And he was a gardener who used to live in the basement.

1:51:09

And he was there for the kids, which, that was kind of weird,

1:51:11

but I guess he used to live in the basement at the school. Yeah.

1:51:14

I don't know. and then you see scenes

1:51:17

of freddie just being friendly to these kids like playing hide

1:51:20

and seek like yeah real part of the

1:51:23

school he's a real like main character yeah they're

1:51:26

playing games and then her mom says you know the parents didn't want to believe

1:51:30

it at first all the kids were so innocent and then you see little young nancy

1:51:36

drawing pictures and freddie comes up to her and he's like oh my gosh like you're

1:51:41

such a good drawer i have pictures of my that i've drawn but but they're not this good.

1:51:45

Like, maybe you can help me, you know, trying to be friendly,

1:51:49

get her trust. Which maybe this is what caused her to be a really good drawer.

1:51:52

Oh my God. I mean, I'm just saying.

1:51:55

I'm okay with not being a good drawer then. And then you see. I'm just saying, good trade off.

1:52:04

Nancy's there again, like she's back, you know, again in this flashback of when they were kids.

1:52:09

Her mom's examining her, turns her around

1:52:11

and she has this like slashes scratches on her

1:52:14

back oh yeah which resemble like gardening

1:52:17

too like so was he like scratching him with

1:52:20

this tool yeah he was like he was

1:52:23

like inflicting pain but also molesting him

1:52:26

like he had a weird sexual thing and young

1:52:30

nancy she's like well you know there's a secret cave we're not

1:52:33

supposed to talk about it and he takes us there

1:52:36

and all to the

1:52:39

end of that story her mom is like he left town no

1:52:42

one ever found out about it but so at this

1:52:45

point i didn't put two and two together until the end they so these kids think

1:52:51

that he's haunting them and killing them because they lied and created this

1:52:55

fake story about him and it shows it more later when quentin falls back asleep

1:53:01

yeah and she's like you know your dreams are just repressed memories,

1:53:05

you guys it was a terrible time whatever he was doing to

1:53:08

you guys yeah that's what it is and nancy's like no screw that shit we need

1:53:13

to find all the kids that were in the picture and talk to them damn and she

1:53:18

starts looking them up right yeah and they're dead she's seeing on the internet

1:53:22

and they stumble upon old marcus yoon.

1:53:27

And he has internet clips, right? But this is later. You see Quentin.

1:53:32

He's like, you know what? His dad picks him up. Yeah. And she's like, dude, we got to figure this out.

1:53:39

And he's like, listen to yourself. This is bullshit. They just explained it.

1:53:42

Get a fucking grip. And leaves with her dad. Yeah. Leaves with his dad.

1:53:47

This is where she does look up Marcus Hewn, though, right?

1:53:50

Before that, we have Quentin at the pool doing his swim competition.

1:53:56

Oh, yeah. So, yeah. And this is the point where he starts to think, like, oh, shit.

1:54:03

Like, we lied about this guy and got him killed.

1:54:05

Because he's in the pool. He falls asleep, is drowning. He gets pulled out, but he's dreaming.

1:54:11

And he comes out of the water, and he sees this old rundown, like, foundry.

1:54:17

And when he gets out, it's cold. He's cold. And then you see Freddy running past.

1:54:23

Oh, yeah. Screaming. and then cars just and

1:54:26

it you can tell it's way back like in the 90s

1:54:29

or whatever because the cars are older and they're

1:54:32

running and chasing him down well he starts to follow him

1:54:36

and then he sees them chase him into a building and he's screaming he's like

1:54:40

i don't know what you think i did i didn't do it i didn't do it yeah and they're

1:54:44

trying to like beat down the door they don't and then clancy what's the dude's

1:54:50

name the dad's name is it clint no that's his real name I'm playing to you.

1:54:55

I don't remember. I wrote. Quentin's dad, though, he's like, this ends tonight.

1:55:00

And he has a Molotov cocktail, lights it on, and he's like, this is for my son.

1:55:06

And throws it into the window. Yeah. And that shit goes off.

1:55:12

Yeah, it goes crazy. And this is the cheesy CGI, because then he starts running,

1:55:18

screaming. Freddy does. He's like. He takes off a coat, and you see the classic iconic sweater.

1:55:24

Yes. Yes, you see it. It's like, oh, my God. Even I was a little like, this is cheesy.

1:55:30

Well. But then his face is on fire, but it's like cheesy, like CGI fire.

1:55:34

Yeah. And I was like, ugh. And he runs straight.

1:55:38

This was a cool part. He was on fire in Golden Flame, whoever that was.

1:55:41

If that was real, that was cool. He runs towards Quentin.

1:55:45

Yeah. And that's when you see the close of his face where that was cheesy.

1:55:49

Yeah. And then he wakes up because someone revived him.

1:55:53

You're doing CPR. One little cool thing that I did find about the cheesy iconic sweater.

1:55:58

It was knitted by Judy Graham, who was the same lady that knitted the 1984 sweater.

1:56:04

Oh, that's cool. So they got her to do one. Well, so it's cool they showed it.

1:56:08

I just thought that was a little cheesy ripping the coat off like that. Yeah.

1:56:12

They're just showing you how he became Tibby. So Quentin wakes up.

1:56:16

He's like, fuck, we lied about this guy. This is why he's after us.

1:56:19

Yeah. And then this is what you were talking about. About Nancy finds the clip of this guy.

1:56:25

Yeah, he has things. He's like, man, I'm sleep deprived. I'm seeing this guy

1:56:29

in my dreams. He's a burn victim. He keeps taking me to school. And I keep getting closer. He's like...

1:56:35

I finally got into the school. He's like, is there anybody else having these dreams?

1:56:40

Anyone out there to help me, please? Like, he's desperate. Yeah.

1:56:44

And then, and this funny, this character, this guy, he has a small part here,

1:56:49

but he's in Friday the 13th, 2009.

1:56:52

He plays. Oh, really? Yeah. He plays a character. He's pretty good.

1:56:55

Nice. But yeah, he's in this. And then all of a sudden he falls asleep.

1:57:00

You can tell. And then he slams into the camera, the webcam,

1:57:05

and then it goes to gray. It's like.

1:57:09

So he's dead on the video. So everybody on that list has died.

1:57:13

The only people alive are Quentin and Nancy.

1:57:18

And then Quentin comes and he's like, hey, I know what happened to Freddie after

1:57:22

his whole pool dream scene.

1:57:26

And they go into the dad's office to confront him.

1:57:29

And they're like, dude, we know what you did. you guys killed freddie and you

1:57:33

burned him he's like how and the dad's like no listen like we were trying to

1:57:37

protect you and he's like dude like we were four and five like why did you believe

1:57:40

us like did you actually see the cave did you tell the police like was there any investigation,

1:57:46

he's like you guys have marks yeah he's like you what if you kill an innocent

1:57:50

man you know like and the dad's like you know what like i think about that all

1:57:54

the time it's like a trauma that he has to, and he's like, goo,

1:57:58

you fucking deserve that. Yeah. Again, right now, he's a hundred percent thinking that the Freddie was innocent.

1:58:05

And from when I was looking up my research, I guess that is something that they

1:58:10

kind of play with of having Freddie, having that be a twist in the movie of

1:58:14

having him actually be an innocent person. But he's really not.

1:58:18

Yeah. And then the dad, you know, he's like, you know what? Maybe when you grow

1:58:22

up, if you have kids, Like, you'll understand that you're going to do whatever to protect your kids.

1:58:26

Which, wouldn't you? Yeah. I know I would.

1:58:29

That's one thing I would. Like, you touch any kid, I'm going to fucking kill

1:58:33

you. Especially my own kid. You're fucking dead, dude. I will go to prison.

1:58:37

Like, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's gross. That's weird.

1:58:41

And, yeah, they both storm out of their dad, Quentin's dad's office.

1:58:45

And he's like, you know, in their stories, like, Freddy killed him.

1:58:51

But what if there's a way that they can stop them?

1:58:55

You know, again, right now, Quinn is saying, you know, we were telling all these

1:58:58

things. They were lies. Yeah. They got him killed.

1:59:02

So maybe we can do something to fucking redeem themselves.

1:59:06

Right. For having gotten him killed. And then as they're walking down the hallway,

1:59:12

Nancy hears her name and she sees Chris is like in a body bag being dragged out of the hall.

1:59:18

Which, again, this is, they changed it up a little bit, but this is,

1:59:23

they got this from the first movie where Nancy sees a body bag of her friend

1:59:28

being dragged in the hallway.

1:59:31

Yeah. So it's a different point. It isn't exactly like this,

1:59:34

but they use the same one. And then she turns forward. Yeah. Turns to the side again. And this time,

1:59:40

it's there again, but this time it's standing up.

1:59:42

Yeah. And she's like, do you want to play? And he's like.

1:59:46

Yeah. I thought it was cool. It looked good.

1:59:49

Yeah, and she did tell Quentin, she's like, I just saw Chris.

1:59:54

And he's like, you know what? We're going to go find a preschool.

1:59:57

But first, we need to go get more Satterwool. Satterwool?

2:00:02

Satterwool. Yeah, he had to get his drugs. And I like this because it really

2:00:06

painted excuse me, it made it paint them like junkies.

2:00:10

He goes in there and he's like, man, I just need my fix.

2:00:14

And she's in the the car she's tired she's

2:00:18

dozing off and she grabs the lighter car

2:00:21

lighter which kids if like nowadays they don't have them anymore but that was

2:00:27

a real cool feature back in the day in cars you had a lighter that you can heat

2:00:33

up and it would and then it would get hot and she used that to like try to wake herself up yeah.

2:00:41

But then, so he's freaking out. The doctor's like, dude, you don't have any

2:00:44

more fucking refills. He's like, just fill it up. And she goes inside.

2:00:48

And then she's still kind of sleeping.

2:00:51

And you see, and I thought this was a cool effect, the door.

2:00:55

You see him walking into the grocery store, Freddy.

2:00:58

But, like, it's, like, blinking. It's, like, flashing. And then he walks in there.

2:01:03

And then it turns into the boiler room the grocery store does. Yeah.

2:01:10

Yeah, so it turns into the boiler room. And again, Freddy's doing his little

2:01:14

thing where he's running his fingers. The thing. And then he pushes her to the floor.

2:01:21

He confronts her immediately, pushes her down. She's trying to get away from him.

2:01:26

And then he smacks her in the face and he's like, wake up. But it's really Quentin

2:01:30

trying to wake her up because she's inside the store.

2:01:33

Yeah. But she's dreaming already.

2:01:35

She wakes up and she sees on her arm. Well, she's screaming and then Quentin comes running.

2:01:41

He's like, oh, shit. And she's on the ground.

2:01:44

Yeah. And one thing is she puts up her hand and she was able to grab like a

2:01:49

piece of that sweater. Yeah, grabbed him. And just like the first movie, she finds out, Nancy finds out,

2:01:55

oh, I can come to the real world.

2:01:57

And then they start putting two together to pull him out.

2:02:01

But yeah, no. And then she gets a huge gash on her arm and Quentin has to take her to the hospital.

2:02:08

Which I like this scene by the way her mom shows up Dr.

2:02:13

Holbrook and she's like who did it and then meanwhile you fucking steal see

2:02:18

Quentin out here trying to get his fix going through the nurses yeah he wants

2:02:22

to stay awake and he ends up getting adrenaline stuff yeah he takes some pills well no shots.

2:02:29

And then a doctor comes in and she's like, you know what?

2:02:32

Like she just needs like, I have medication for the pain. Yeah.

2:02:36

But it's going to make her fall asleep. Right. And then you see a quick little effect where the doctor's hand is Freddy's

2:02:42

claw. Yeah. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no.

2:02:45

Yeah. So he's. Which they could have had fun with this scene,

2:02:48

like her being tied down to the hospital bed.

2:02:52

Oh, yeah. And like in previous movies, Freddy had hands like syringes for hands.

2:02:57

Oh. And he could have been, they could have had fun with this and put him in

2:03:01

a doctor's gown and a little mask on with the syringe for hands.

2:03:06

Yeah. And like, I'm coming after you. You know what I mean? Yeah.

2:03:08

They could have did a fun twist on the scene and they totally missed the mark on this.

2:03:13

Just quick and done. I like the scene how it is,

2:03:17

but they could have done way better where they could have emphasized that micro

2:03:20

napping, like where she thinks the nurse that is kind of, let's to be real,

2:03:26

kind of bitchy, turns into Freddy. That would have been awesome. Yeah.

2:03:31

But again, what could have, could have, should have. Could have,

2:03:34

should have, but it wasn't. And so she's like, we're going to put her to sleep.

2:03:37

We're going to give her something. And then she's like, no, mom, no.

2:03:40

And then the nurse is like, hey, can you step outside? We got to talk, man. Yeah.

2:03:45

And she's like, hey, she needs the rest. Oh, yeah. Just sign here for me.

2:03:50

And she's like, I don't want her to be in pain. And she's like, she won't be. Just sign here.

2:03:54

Give it up, bitch. And so she ends up signing.

2:03:59

But then Nancy and Quentin are gone when they go back in the room.

2:04:03

Yeah. They're on the road. They're fucking taking off, going to go look for

2:04:07

the preschool. We find out Quentin's favorite color is blue.

2:04:11

They're making small talk. Richard's favorite. Yeah.

2:04:15

Oh, my God. She's like, dude, thank you for saving me. And he's like, no biggie.

2:04:21

He's like, I stole some fucking adrenaline from the nurse's cart.

2:04:24

And he's like, you want some? And she's still so, I don't know about you, but I'm like, fuck yeah,

2:04:30

give me some. I got to fucking wake up. Yeah. And you can, like, he gives it to himself on his leg.

2:04:36

Like an EpiPen. Yeah. He's like, ugh.

2:04:38

Yeah. And she's like, you know what? Just ask me questions. Keep me awake.

2:04:42

That's good enough for me. And he's like, what do you want me to ask you?

2:04:46

Yeah, and he's like, how come? I have a question. How come every time I invited

2:04:49

you over the last few years, you never showed up?

2:04:52

And she's like, I just never fit in.

2:04:55

Yeah, I'm a weirdo. I'm an introvert. Which I can relate. It's cool.

2:04:59

Yeah, and he's like, well, okay. Fine, if we survive, I'm taking you on a real date.

2:05:04

Fucking rib lobster before they go out of business. And then you see Freddy

2:05:10

in the middle of the street, right? Yeah. And then he swerves and they crash.

2:05:15

But coincidentally, the preschool's right there. Oh, yeah.

2:05:18

So they start walking to the preschool. They get in there. Yeah.

2:05:22

And no one's been there in fucking years. Which...

2:05:30

Put a pen in that real quick in this scenario in this movie who do you relate

2:05:35

with most is this a new thing yeah i'm just curious you're just curious yeah

2:05:40

um i don't know i can't really,

2:05:45

i can't pinpoint everybody's personalities on this i can tell that chris is

2:05:49

like the popular kid jesse's the rebel dean is or dean dean was the wild rebel kid,

2:05:59

Jesse was also. No, Jesse was an asshole.

2:06:02

Okay. Should have been a jock, but he wasn't because it's 2010.

2:06:07

Jocks weren't cool. They weren't anymore. Yeah, so he was an asshole.

2:06:11

You had the kind of semi-cool kid who was cool with everybody.

2:06:15

You, Quentin. And Quentin. You had Nancy, the quiet girl. You had Chris,

2:06:20

who should have been the cheerleader. I think she gave me popular vibes. Yeah, the popular vibes. So you had all the elements.

2:06:29

I think I would have been, I guess, personality-wise, Nancy, the quiet girl.

2:06:34

Nancy, yeah. I got Quentin. You got Quentin.

2:06:38

You knew everybody. No, actually, I would have been the third kid at that seat with Quentin and Jesse.

2:06:45

Not saying anything? Yep. I would have been that third guy. That's not even in the movie.

2:06:49

Participation point. Yep. I would have been that guy. Oh, my gosh.

2:06:54

But, yeah, anyways. I would have been Dr. Hallberg. Oh, shit. Yeah, lame.

2:06:59

We're going to hide all your memories, sweetheart. Well, she's got it coming, which I'm excited for.

2:07:05

The pacing on this movie went really fast. Yeah.

2:07:09

It was done before you know it. I kind of liked it. I like the pacing.

2:07:12

It got in and got out, man. That was clean.

2:07:15

But anyways, getting back to the movie, they get into the preschool,

2:07:19

right? What happens then? Oh, Quentin sees- Freddy. Freddy and smashes on fucking Nancy. And he's like, no.

2:07:28

And then she doesn't see it. So he's kind of like, oh, shit.

2:07:31

Like, what's real and what's not real anymore? Clearly, adrenaline didn't work. Yeah.

2:07:35

She's like dude follow me and she just apparently

2:07:39

all her memories are coming back she remembers yeah where

2:07:42

things are so she opens the door and they go downstairs and

2:07:46

then they find like this like an oil lantern it looks like and they light it

2:07:50

up yeah and putin he's like i still don't remember anything and then they walk

2:07:55

into this bedroom which is where freddy used to live and there's like a bed

2:07:59

you see that glove with the with the knife knives on the end of it and then And there's like.

2:08:05

He's like, oh, this is his house. Yeah. Kid drawings on the wall. Yeah.

2:08:10

And she's. And then Nancy sees one space in particular. And she's like,

2:08:14

there's something behind the. Yeah. Behind the wall. And they rip off the little board, bulletin board thing.

2:08:21

Yeah. And then they find like a small door, like an opening.

2:08:24

So they crawl through it. Yeah. And I think they found Freddy's cave.

2:08:28

And again, it's just like. Yeah, it's a little sex lair.

2:08:31

Brick room with more like kid drawings. And a bed in it. Weird.

2:08:36

And like a little table and chairs. Yeah, fucked up. And then...

2:08:40

Nancy has another memory, and Freddy's like, come on. He's like,

2:08:43

can you keep a secret? I'm going to take you to a special place.

2:08:47

And she just remembers, like, kind of having, like, a game. They're painting

2:08:52

the wall with, like, red paint. Yeah. And she's wearing her little, she's wearing a blue dress.

2:08:57

Which, how the hell did she go home, and she's covered in paint,

2:09:02

and her parents seem like, what happened? Or the teachers. Where'd all this red paint come from?

2:09:07

When is he finding time to take this kid downstairs? I thought when you're in

2:09:10

school, they have pretty rigid schedules.

2:09:13

Like, you're here, you're learning, you're done, you're on the bus and going

2:09:17

back home. It's a little far-fetched. Yeah.

2:09:19

But, you know what? There's a will, there's a way.

2:09:23

Maybe it's at the school. Maybe they were having after-school stuff.

2:09:26

But when she's doing her little soul-searching thing, Quentin finds a box full of photos.

2:09:32

And Polaroid pictures. Yeah, he's looking at these Polaroid pictures.

2:09:35

And then Nancy turns in and she's like, what'd you find? he's like

2:09:39

oh he doesn't he doesn't want to tell her he's like

2:09:41

no no he's like she's like what let me see it yeah

2:09:44

and then he's like dude it's all of you so

2:09:48

did he not molest all the kids just her she was his favorite so maybe he was

2:09:53

i think he did i think he did molest him or torture most of them because dean

2:09:58

had problems they all were fucked up yeah so i think he did but he mainly kept the pictures of Nancy.

2:10:05

Yeah. So they both, like Nancy goes through them. She's like crying and everything. Um.

2:10:12

I thought they were going to show the pictures. They never did. Well, thank God. That's weird. That's child porn. Well, I was like,

2:10:17

what the fuck are they watching? What are they seeing? I'm okay with not seeing those. I'm okay. I didn't think they were going to be explicit.

2:10:25

I just thought they were going to be pictures of her in her little blue dress or something. Yeah.

2:10:30

Not that. Ew. And then, yeah, Quinn is like, we were wrong. He's like,

2:10:35

he's not after us for lying. Yeah. He's after us because we told on him.

2:10:42

And she's like and then they start putting the picture together she's like yeah

2:10:45

he brought us here to remember like everything he's done to us and they're like

2:10:49

well but what does he want, and again she like i don't know is using the little piece of burnt sweater as

2:10:56

like a fucking amulet now yeah he's she's like dude he wants them forever for

2:11:01

all eternity he wants us to know what he did and then they're just chilling

2:11:06

in this room i don't know if i had run into something

2:11:08

pretty traumatic that happened to me i would have bolted out of there i'd

2:11:11

be like i would try to be piecing it together really i

2:11:15

yeah if some dude played with my butthole like you

2:11:18

make sure i'd be making sure

2:11:21

i'm like what exactly happened i mean i feel like you would you could come back

2:11:25

but like i feel like initially if i now that would have been a big shock i would

2:11:29

have been like i need to breathe for a minute yeah process and then come back

2:11:33

and oh i don't smoke but i went and smoked a cigarette i'm like oh my god so

2:11:39

they're sitting on the bed, you know they're like if we don't do anything we're gonna die regardless so

2:11:44

again just her with her little piece as well she's like what if i'm the only

2:11:49

one that they can pull him out. And again they kind of put this plan together and she's like you know wake me

2:11:57

up if you see me struggle while i'm sleeping yeah and then she lays on the bed

2:12:01

and quinn comes over and puts his He has the cross necklace on her. Yeah.

2:12:06

And he grabs a weapon. Yeah.

2:12:09

What do you call that board thing with the knife? Yeah.

2:12:14

I don't know. Like little slicer to slice paper. Yeah, he breaks, yeah.

2:12:18

A paper cutter? Yeah, a paper cutter. I don't know. But yeah,

2:12:22

he breaks that off. That's a pretty cool weapon.

2:12:24

I've never seen one of those like that before. That was cool.

2:12:27

Yeah. And then they both fall asleep.

2:12:32

He falls asleep first. Yeah. And he's like, he wakes up and he's like, oh shit.

2:12:39

He's like, I know where I'm at. Fuck. And he's like, oh, Freddy comes in. And he's like, oh, you're not going to save

2:12:45

your little girlfriend. And he grabs him with a head and, like, smashes him against the wall.

2:12:51

Yeah. Dude, that would fucking crush your school. Because he's hitting him pretty

2:12:56

hard, like, against the pipes.

2:12:59

And so his face is all bloodied. And then he doesn't get stabbed at that point.

2:13:05

No, he just says, tag. He scratches him a little bit. Yeah, tag, you're it.

2:13:09

Which I did see, I guess, like, in this scene. I don't know if it's at this

2:13:12

scene or at one point, Freddy really did scratch Quentin in real life,

2:13:15

I guess, in one of the scenes where he was touching his abdomen.

2:13:19

Yeah. The glove, the knife didn't bend all the way, so he couldn't pull it away,

2:13:24

so he did end up scratching him. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.

2:13:27

So, but then he's on the ground, and then Nancy's like, Freddy!

2:13:31

And he's like, your girlfriend's here, and he disappears because he has priorities. Yeah.

2:13:38

And he comes he's over there with Nancy and he's like alright,

2:13:43

he's like now that you have me like what game do

2:13:46

you want to play and she's like fuck you he's like oh it's a you're a little

2:13:51

fast for me again just trying to be funny and yeah it just didn't hit it didn't

2:13:57

hit right and he shows her like look at everybody that's died so far and again

2:14:02

they're all he just added more bodies to his collection hanging from those hooks and.

2:14:07

And he's like, it's real and I'm real.

2:14:12

And she pushed him back.

2:14:16

And then they're kind of in and out of dream world. So she's in her house. Yeah.

2:14:22

She's running upstairs and sees his shadow walking around the house following her.

2:14:28

And she hides in her closet. And you can see him.

2:14:31

He's walking around this room looking for her. right and she

2:14:35

he kind of peeks through like it's those closets where they have kind of like

2:14:39

blind shutters yeah yeah and she he doesn't apparently he doesn't see her but

2:14:45

then all of a sudden he's inside the closet with her and he's like boo so she

2:14:50

runs she starts running up again,

2:14:54

and then the hallway turns into like a blood of pool yeah that was a cool effect

2:14:59

too so that's a a little play on her house in the first movie when she's going

2:15:04

up the stairs and she like gets.

2:15:07

She gets like when she's going up her foot goes into the stairs and kind of

2:15:11

gets stuck like quick stand oh yeah this was kind of a play on that i think

2:15:15

but it was cool she was completely submerged and then all of a sudden it pans

2:15:21

to her bedroom and then it shows it like water just

2:15:25

pooling up on the top, and then it bursts.

2:15:28

And she's completely dry at this point, but then she's in her kid outfit.

2:15:32

Yeah, like a crispy clear white dress. Yeah, she looks at it.

2:15:36

She's like, what the fuck? And she looks like she can't move because she looks like he has her pinned down.

2:15:42

Yeah. And then he gets there, and he's at the door, and he's tapping.

2:15:48

He's doing his thing. He's like, hey.

2:15:51

Doing more creepy lines. he's like this dress

2:15:54

was always one of my favorite yeah he's like

2:15:57

you remember of course you do he's and

2:16:00

this is where it kind of clicks he's like you remember everything he's like

2:16:04

your memories is what fuels me yeah so yes they remember him they brought him

2:16:08

back right but quentin wakes up and he's like dude i he and he explains i'm

2:16:16

getting you to where you never wake up forever and she's fighting him

2:16:21

does get up and then does stab him with what scissors

2:16:24

shears and he's like oh oh acts

2:16:28

like he's hurt and then he pulls it out and this is the shitty cgi the when

2:16:32

he pulls out the shears it just looked terrible the nerves like stretch out

2:16:38

so far out it was like it reminded me remember the mask with jim carrey and

2:16:43

it bounces back on it but the mask This goes better.

2:16:46

And that was made in like 93, 94.

2:16:49

But no, he pulls the shears out. He's like, what's up? Naughty girl. Yeah.

2:16:56

And then Quentin does wake up and he's trying to wake her up.

2:17:00

And Nancy gets thrown back on the bed, right? And Freddie's on top of her.

2:17:05

Yeah, and he tells her, he's like, you know, I'm like. I'm going to keep you here forever.

2:17:11

He's like, my plan, you know, I have to keep you up long enough.

2:17:14

So when you do sleep, you never fucking wake up.

2:17:18

Yeah. And he does his little line where he's like, I'm your boyfriend now. Yeah.

2:17:23

And then they sync it up to where Quentin has the adrenaline.

2:17:27

And then Freddie's going to stab her in the chest. And then Quentin just, bam, hits it.

2:17:33

And at this point, Freddy and Nancy come back into the real world.

2:17:37

And Freddy gets thrown off to the side. And Nancy's like, get him.

2:17:43

And then Quentin has to go grab the blade, right? Yeah.

2:17:46

And then this is where Freddy gets over there, starts beating the shit out of

2:17:50

him. And then stabs Quentin in the shoulder.

2:17:53

So he's out. He's down on the ground. And then Nancy gets up.

2:17:57

And she has the thing. She's like, hey, Freddy, fuck you, right?

2:18:02

Yeah. And I thought this was cool because the sound and everything slices his

2:18:08

throat, and then his neck is so sliced, his head starts to fall back, like fall off.

2:18:14

I thought that was fucking sweet. Yeah.

2:18:18

Welcome to my world, bitch. Yeah, and in it, too, she also cut off his glove.

2:18:25

Of oh before because he was gonna kill quentin and she cuts it off and she's

2:18:29

like oh it hurts doesn't it and then she's like well welcome to my world bitch

2:18:34

yeah he just lays her he's done,

2:18:39

and then she grabs quinn helps him up they're walking out of the room and then

2:18:44

she turns around and grabs that lantern and throws it at the room and the building

2:18:49

goes up in fire again so So, oh, fun fact,

2:18:52

the abandoned preschool set was an actual defunct school chosen for its naturally eerie atmosphere.

2:18:59

That's cool. And the final confrontation was designed to mirror classic horror

2:19:03

film showdowns, blending suspense with action. Nice. Yeah.

2:19:09

So, yeah, then they survive. They walk out of that. They burn the place down.

2:19:14

The firefighters are there already.

2:19:17

Yeah. To put out the fire.

2:19:19

Yeah. And then they both get taken in an ambulance.

2:19:23

And Quinn took the beating in this one. And he wakes up. And she's like,

2:19:28

all right, nightmares are over. And then she gets home.

2:19:33

Yeah. They walk through the door. And the mom's like, okay, I want you to get as much rest as you can.

2:19:39

And she sets the keys down and then there's a mirror behind her.

2:19:44

My favorite part of the whole movie, man.

2:19:46

That chick, Freddie, smashes through the mirror, grabs her and just impales

2:19:52

her eyes all the way through her head and then grabs her and pulls her through

2:19:58

the mirror. I love that. That was fucking sweet.

2:20:00

CGI cheesy or not, that was cool. Did you like that?

2:20:05

It was fine. did you like the mom dying in

2:20:08

the first one or the mom dying in this one and

2:20:10

the first one because i in the bed where

2:20:13

it's just melting down yeah and then

2:20:16

you see more of like i like that the mom was

2:20:19

an alcoholic in the first one yeah she's a

2:20:22

shitty mom that's where the dad dude we should have

2:20:24

had the cop dad and this one yeah that would have

2:20:27

been tight i like this one i

2:20:30

i mean i like on both but this one was so cool man he

2:20:33

fucking just smashes her head because i she was

2:20:36

making me mad throughout the movie she was just and i was like sweet sweet you're

2:20:42

done yeah i loved it and then that was the end of the movie right was there

2:20:46

any like extra credit not that i saw i kind of skipped forward a little bit

2:20:51

i didn't see anything else or maybe it didn't get far enough,

2:20:55

more on the schools yeah the high school i guess it was filmed between two high

2:21:00

schools the board of the school allowed it to happen under a condition that

2:21:04

there were no deaths inside the school actually filmed or taking place.

2:21:10

Oh, go ahead. Oh, and I was just going to say that this movie,

2:21:13

I guess, it also broke record for a midnight opening for a horror film. Yeah, that's tight.

2:21:20

Okay, so I have a couple facts here.

2:21:23

Our main character, Nancy, Rooney Mara, her commitment, she played Nancy,

2:21:29

went through extensive training for her role, including learning about sleep

2:21:33

disorders and nightmares. She also performed many of her own stunts, adding to the film's authenticity.

2:21:40

And then, like we were bringing up throughout the movie, the homage to the original.

2:21:44

This film includes several nods to the original 84 film.

2:21:48

For example, the scene where Chris is lifted and thrown around the room by an

2:21:51

unseen force is direct homage to Tina's death in the original movie.

2:21:57

And then, okay, I knew I had it in my notes.

2:22:00

So while the film used CGI for some of the more elaborate dream sequences,

2:22:04

many of the special effects are practical. This includes the infamous scene where Freddy's face pushes through the wall

2:22:10

above Nancy's bed, achieved using flexible latex wall rather than CGI,

2:22:16

which, bullshit, I will put money down on that.

2:22:20

Sorry, I'm just going through these. Freddy's backstory. So you mentioned this, and I have an idea.

2:22:27

So the remake delves deeper into Freddy Krueger's backstory,

2:22:32

providing more details about his life before he became a killer.

2:22:36

This includes his role as a gardener at the preschool and his interactions with

2:22:40

the children, which added a new layer of horror to his character.

2:22:44

And then, despite mixed reviews, it grossed, like we said, $115 million worldwide.

2:22:52

And here's another tie to Michael Bay and the Transformers. So, the music score.

2:22:57

The film score was composed by Steve Jablonski, known for his work on the Transformers

2:23:03

series. He aimed to create a haunting and atmospheric soundtrack that would

2:23:07

complement the film's dark and eerie tone. Okay. Which, nah.

2:23:11

Nah. And then this, babe, we got to find out. We might have to buy this. Deleted scenes.

2:23:17

Oh, I did hear about this. Several scenes were deleted from the final cut of

2:23:20

the movie, including more detailed dream sequences and additional character

2:23:24

development moments, which I think would have helped this movie.

2:23:27

The scenes can be found on the film's dvd and blu-ray releases offering fans

2:23:33

a more comprehensive look at the story we might have to find that i want to

2:23:38

see that because dude that makes sense michael bay fucking gutted this shit

2:23:43

like i want to see the fucking those cuts yeah you know what.

2:23:49

That's what I had for extra things. Now that we talked about it extensively,

2:23:56

has your opinion changed about the movie? No.

2:23:59

Oh, wow. That was direct. You still hate it, huh? I mean, it's cool. It was his, you know, director's only film.

2:24:08

You weren't entertained at all. He used to film.

2:24:12

At all. You didn't like it at all. I think you didn't see it in the theaters.

2:24:17

I think that's what helped me. And I just love the genre. I love this movie or I love the franchise.

2:24:24

So this movie, I appreciate it. It was a different take, a different look at

2:24:29

it. I like that some of the changes they did.

2:24:32

Maybe it fell short, but I still like the effort and I enjoyed it.

2:24:37

I did have a couple more things. Yeah. So this is from one of the producers,

2:24:41

I guess, due to the backlash over the remake. The next film that the studio

2:24:46

made was The Purge in 2013.

2:24:48

So they took like a three-year hiatus from this. Wow. And they did The Purge,

2:24:54

though. That's pretty good. Yeah. And then the other thing, yeah, like initially, you know,

2:24:58

it was a huge success. They did a lot, like, well financially.

2:25:02

And then immediately the studio also greenlit a production on a sequel,

2:25:06

again, with Jackie Earl as Freddie.

2:25:09

Which I think they should have. I think it would have got better.

2:25:11

There were discussions over his salary, storylines, but because of the backlash

2:25:16

afterwards, it was kind of put to an end.

2:25:20

The other thing here, so it was set in Ohio, the movie, right, The Town?

2:25:26

Yeah. But it was actually filmed in Illinois for tax credit reasons,

2:25:30

so they got a tax break for filming there.

2:25:33

Yeah. and then yeah compared to the original films

2:25:36

which do have a dark humor and a black comedy this

2:25:39

was meant to be taken more seriously and

2:25:42

have more greenness and then one thing that i saw was

2:25:45

the the crew was drawing inspiration from the

2:25:48

dark knight which had come out at the time yeah which 2008 the joker everybody

2:25:55

was trying to redo that yeah freddy's voice so it was digitally and post-production

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alter to make it seem more supernatural. Yeah.

2:26:06

And then, yeah, regarding the animators who did CGI, they were the same people

2:26:11

that worked on Harvey Dent's Two-Face in the Dark Knight that they brought on.

2:26:17

And then, yeah, I guess one thing that I kind of, after I read this,

2:26:21

I kind of started seeing it in the film.

2:26:23

Every time, like at the beginning, especially when Freddy was going to make

2:26:26

an appearance, the scenes, the colors of the green and red were a little more

2:26:31

prominent to kind of give you a heads up. And the tone, yeah, the tone would get colder, too.

2:26:37

Like the scene, the background would at least get cold looking.

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Okay, I appreciate what they try to do, Richard. You do? I just don't like fucking Freddy's story.

2:26:47

Oh my God, you're hung up on that so bad.

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That's what makes the character the character. I don't. If I want to listen

2:26:54

to true crime stuff, I'll listen to true crime stuff. Oh my God.

2:26:57

You're fucking wild. I appreciated it. But I knew that backstory. I already knew that.

2:27:04

I don't. And I, yeah. And then he just, I feel like.

2:27:07

Sorry, your life got altered with that. It did. Oh my God.

2:27:11

Because you're rooting for this Freddy Krueger the whole

2:27:14

time i was like oh he's just a crazy deranged

2:27:17

serial killer and he just kills people in their dreams and

2:27:21

he was funny like in the first like the original

2:27:24

movies at times yeah and all of a sudden he's being like you smell different

2:27:29

this is my favorite dress you look so good and i was like stop it just kill

2:27:34

them don't make me feel uncomfortable dirty yes so what was What was your favorite kill?

2:27:42

My favorite kill? This one had plenty. There were six kills.

2:27:46

I wrote a note to think about what was my favorite kill, and I did not write it down.

2:27:52

You don't have one? You go first. I don't.

2:27:55

I'm trying to think. So my favorite kill is the mom.

2:27:58

I fucking knew you were going to say the mom. But my second would be Dean,

2:28:02

and then my third would be Jesse, and then my fourth would be Chris.

2:28:06

You didn't like Chris's kill? It was cool. Cool, I like that,

2:28:10

and I like the homage to the first one, but no.

2:28:13

I like the mom just getting blasted at the end. That was tight.

2:28:17

That was fucking awesome. Does Freddy's kill even count then if he came back? Yeah, it could count. And kill the mom? Yeah.

2:28:25

So I have a thing on that. I think. Continue. I don't know. I'll probably have to say Dean.

2:28:30

You like Dean? Yeah. Yeah, that was a good one. So Freddy, interesting you bring this up. Oh, my Leonta.

2:28:36

What about Freddy? So... My thing is, is, so I have a problem with this.

2:28:45

With Freddy, the only way he can live is in dreams of people or kids who are aware of him.

2:28:52

Okay. Well, if he keeps killing the people, won't he die when everybody forgets? Also, how did he...

2:29:00

How did he become to be, I know he was murdered, but how to get to the dream world?

2:29:08

So from what I found out, Freddy Krueger's existence in the dream world and

2:29:14

his ability to kill while being dependent on people remembering him raises interesting

2:29:19

questions, right? And then here's what I found.

2:29:24

Freddy's origin was a child murderer who was burned alive. He made a deal with

2:29:30

dream demons who granted him the power to enter and manipulate dreams.

2:29:35

This is how he gained access to the dream world. Okay.

2:29:39

And I believe that was like in four or five.

2:29:42

I think I have that further. I put in my notes. And then sustaining his existence.

2:29:47

I looked this up. Freddy's power relies on fear and memory. If everyone forgets him, he loses his power.

2:29:54

The concept is explored in various films, such as Freddy vs.

2:29:57

Jason, where Freddy uses Jason to instill fear and keep the legend alive.

2:30:02

His aim is to terrorize and kill while ensuring that enough people remember

2:30:06

and fear him to sustain his existence.

2:30:09

So does he keep one alive just to spread the good word of Freddy Krueger?

2:30:16

So then I found the paradox to this, because I'm not the only one who was thinking this.

2:30:21

The paradox of killing all his victims and losing

2:30:24

the power of the forgotten is a central tension in this

2:30:27

series freddy often manipulates circumstances to

2:30:31

maintain his legend and keep people aware of his presence the

2:30:35

dynamic creates a continual battle for freddy to stay relevant and feared providing

2:30:39

an ongoing challenge in the series and then then i was like i was looking why

2:30:46

did he start killing kids outside the original yeah parents so you went on the Yeah,

2:30:51

Freddy Krueger started killing kids outside of the original group of parents, of parents, children,

2:30:57

due to the expanding nature of his fear and legend.

2:31:00

Once he started haunting dreams, he influenced spread beyond the initial circle

2:31:04

of new generation, became aware his presence and feared of kids fearing him. Okay.

2:31:12

And then I was like, does he kill multiple people in dreams?

2:31:15

And they said, from what I read, it's kind of for the most part,

2:31:19

he kills them one at a time. But has been known to have multiple people like Quentin and Nancy in dreams.

2:31:25

Yeah. And dream warriors. And then, yeah, that's what I had. Sorry, I'm rambling a little bit.

2:31:33

But I was just curious, man. The dream demons. I forgot what one that is.

2:31:39

It's like Dream Master or something. They dive into that. they dive into the birth of freddie so in one of the movies

2:31:45

i don't think you watched it yet it might have been where it showed the baby

2:31:49

freddie yeah in the picture on netflix,

2:31:51

it might have been in dream child but it shows him being birthed into a psycho

2:31:57

what do you call that mental facility yeah mental psych ward and there's a bunch

2:32:03

of crazy people all around and And his mom got raped.

2:32:07

His mom was a nurse who got raped there by a crazy person. Oh,

2:32:11

my God. And Freddy was born. Okay. I might have that wrong a little bit, but. I have to finish them before

2:32:17

they leave Netflix. It's hilarious. It's fucking hilarious. I'm like, dude, what the hell?

2:32:22

Like, all these fucking weirdos are just surrounding him. Like,

2:32:26

it's cheesy as fuck. Hello, child. Yeah.

2:32:30

Anyways, back to it. So, your favorite death was Dean.

2:32:33

What would you rate this movie out

2:32:37

of whole five stars

2:32:40

yeah uh two and a half you give it a two and a half yeah that's not bad i give

2:32:46

this one for the effort i give it a three okay i was entertained i liked it

2:32:52

i was entertained it was really good quality movie what do you mean like Like some of the scenes.

2:33:00

Yeah. Oh, the cinematography. The cinematography was really good. I like.

2:33:06

CGI felt flat for me, but. I like Jackie.

2:33:10

I like what they're trying to do. I like the cast for the most part.

2:33:14

Jackie Earl Haley was pretty good.

2:33:17

Considering his, you know, he was kind of limited. His restraints.

2:33:20

Yes. So yeah, I give it a three. You give a two over five. So we're pretty close. That's enough.

2:33:27

Do we want to bring in vienna and

2:33:30

the review corner does she have

2:33:33

reviews this time she kind of bailed on us twice twice yeah twice already i

2:33:38

think she did her homework she showed up she has reviews for us today all right

2:33:46

overall i feel like there was kind of mixed reviews as

2:33:52

well kind of middle of the road ratings for

2:33:56

the movie imdb gave it a 5.2

2:33:59

out of 10 that's pretty good run tomatoes 14

2:34:02

not so good metacritic 35 i've seen that which isn't bad no and then for hexing

2:34:10

giggles google users 69 see people like this movie i we're i know our Our fan

2:34:18

base, we've already had it. They're like, oh, man, that piece of shit, good luck.

2:34:22

Like, dude, so the hardcore fans that we have at least following us already shit on it.

2:34:29

So you're welcome, guys. You're welcome.

2:34:32

All right, so it looks like Vianna is ready for the review corner. Hey. What's going on?

2:34:39

Making the best list ever of horror movies. Okay, I like it. I like it.

2:34:45

What's on top, Babadook? Oh I forgot to put one in Oh my god that's your favorite

2:34:51

movie No it isn't I combined like my mom What she had in her list And Kelsey's

2:34:58

And then I'm putting What about mine.

2:35:01

My bad i was gonna ask you wow the one that matters the one that matters i'm

2:35:07

gonna add some of mine in i'm adding some really messed up ones like what a

2:35:12

siberian film you know necromantic,

2:35:15

slaughter vomit dolls have you heard of it again again i gotta watch these movies

2:35:22

and i gotta talk about it at extensively so you gotta make sure i enjoy these

2:35:26

movies i'll talk about them. No i'm excited i'm excited you're taking an active interest

2:35:33

can't wait to cover these movies it'll be

2:35:35

fun anyways so did you

2:35:39

watch this movie kind of kind of yeah what'd you what'd you see of it so i kind

2:35:45

of saw what where they were like talking and he tried offering his meds and

2:35:51

then when he like choked in the pool and where the mom they were at the table

2:35:56

and they were like Like, he touched you.

2:35:59

And then, like, the scenes back to, like, when they were in kindergarten.

2:36:03

Okay. And then, like, kind of towards the end. So you got the gist of it.

2:36:06

You got the gist of it. Did you like the movie? Mm.

2:36:11

Mm. Didn't do anything for you? Not really. What was your favorite kill?

2:36:16

I didn't have one. I didn't watch, like, any of the kills. Dang.

2:36:20

Okay. Well, what would you rate this movie without seeing any of the kills?

2:36:24

I don't know. i'd have to watch it what

2:36:27

and you're reviewing this review corner sucks there's

2:36:31

no like i won't how can we trust your

2:36:34

review uh you're gonna trust other people

2:36:37

oh okay what do you what do you have first of all i'd like to say i'm kind of

2:36:44

sad i forgot to wear my sweater that almost looks oh my god your freddy sweater

2:36:48

in june in june yeah no it has blue instead of I've read, though. Oh, that's okay.

2:36:56

So starting off, someone gave it a three and they said, well,

2:37:01

this didn't go as badly as I thought compared to the original.

2:37:04

It's not great, especially when they straight out recreate key moments always came off second best.

2:37:11

But just taken as 21st century slasher, I thought it was all right.

2:37:16

Was not expecting that twist that then twisted back on itself came out of the

2:37:21

blue for me. and even though Freddie started wisecracking the last 10 minutes,

2:37:26

was suitably unnerving. The score was nice, and it did enough of its own thing for me to stop comparing

2:37:32

Midway and just enjoy it for what it was.

2:37:35

Same here. That's what I've been trying to say this whole review.

2:37:38

I kind of thought this was you that wrote it. I know. Maybe it was. Who was the name? Helen S's review.

2:37:45

Helen S? Dude, that's my pseudonym. Oh, my God.

2:37:50

And then someone else said three stars

2:37:53

and a heart and they said it always starts the

2:37:56

same way at first i can totally understand how platinum dunes would figure that

2:38:01

hiring the person who directed the music video for smells like teen spirit would

2:38:05

be a good choice to helm a movie about distressed teenagers being lied to their

2:38:10

parents featuring an iconic sweater so filthy It might be contagious,

2:38:14

but then it occurs to me that Kurt isn't even wearing a sweater in that video Is he not?

2:38:20

No, he's wearing like a brown and green shirt.

2:38:23

Oh shit. He is Mandela effect I thought he was too.

2:38:27

I always picture a sweater, yeah And there's more, but I don't want to read

2:38:32

all Oh damn, no, what else do you got? Okay, and then.

2:38:40

Sorry, I'm switching over to my notes. Okay, someone else gave it half a star

2:38:46

and said, Whoever thought this was a good idea, you're ugly and stinky,

2:38:49

and if I see you in the street, I will hit you in my car. Oh, my God.

2:38:55

Another person gave it one star and said, It takes balls to remake a film involving

2:39:00

one of the greatest horror icons ever. I agree.

2:39:02

It takes brains to do it right. That would make this all balls and no brains whatsoever.

2:39:07

Yeah, I agree, though. It was an attempt. Shit, dude. Dude, better than I could do.

2:39:12

Someone gave it two stars and a heart and said, Freddy Krueger looks like a pizza.

2:39:19

Oh my God, yeah, a little pepperoni pizza.

2:39:22

Someone else gave it a one star and said, I legitimately have never seen a post-2000s

2:39:28

horror remake that has had good lighting.

2:39:31

That is true. There was a period of time when everything was super dark.

2:39:36

Someone gave it three stars and a heart and said, Like the original book,

2:39:40

it was way harder on the molestation stuff.

2:39:42

That was a choice I did not care for. Oh, Moe Angeles wrote that.

2:39:47

What's your pseudonym? I don't know.

2:39:51

Someone gave it three stars and a heart and said, This is good,

2:39:54

and I don't care. Life is short. Enjoy 2000s horror remakes. Run in the forest. Be gay. I don't know. YOLO.

2:40:04

So i gave it three stars three and

2:40:08

a half stars in a heart and said best decision ever was

2:40:12

to watch this dope af with flu meds because

2:40:15

it didn't scare me this time and you just got me looking at this screen contemplating

2:40:19

if they dead ass gave freddy an alien look or my mind is messing with me i liked

2:40:24

it yeah cool well thank you for the reviews yes man do you have any suggestions for

2:40:32

the next movie we should watch, we will strongly consider them.

2:40:36

No, you won't. Uh-huh. You're going to be like, I promise. Ugh,

2:40:39

that movie? I promise. What are you thinking?

2:40:43

I'm trying to think. I don't know. Damn.

2:40:47

I'm thinking either, like, we should maybe cover, like, Bad Moon. It's a werewolf movie.

2:40:53

Oh, you could do a werewolf movie, I think. I know, I love werewolves.

2:40:57

We haven't. Bad Moon would be pretty good.

2:41:00

No, I'm trying to save the alien ones because they're fucking bangers.

2:41:04

I guess critters, kind of. Right?

2:41:07

Aren't they aliens? Yeah, they're critters.

2:41:09

Yeah. We could do alien. Alien.

2:41:12

Like. Hmm. I don't know. Find a really stupid one.

2:41:18

Just kidding. Oh my God. Well, we could. We could go foreign.

2:41:22

So we could do foreign. The ring? Like the Japanese version?

2:41:25

Oh, we could do the ring. We could do both if we wanted to.

2:41:30

The rings. The American one and the, was it Japanese? Yeah. Or Korean?

2:41:35

No, it's Japanese. It's Japanese. Okay. We could do those.

2:41:39

The grudge. The grudge. That was good. I don't think I've watched that one.

2:41:43

Oh, The Grudge is pretty good. Well, all right. Thank you for your reviews. We appreciate it.

2:41:48

Can I just play three? Oh, shit. What's the one?

2:41:53

No, never mind, never mind. What? I don't know. Oh, okay. All right. All right. Thank you.

2:41:59

Until next time, if you show up. If I don't fall asleep. Yeah.

2:42:03

Because you guys take a long time. Participation.

2:42:06

Anyways, babe, what do you think? Those are good suggestions.

2:42:09

Suggestions lots of good suggestions all i know for the

2:42:12

past few weeks i keep hearing you guys never

2:42:15

want to cover chelsea play three hey lord pineapple i'm looking out for you

2:42:19

man i want to watch it too so we could do chelsea play three and then go foreign

2:42:25

yeah we could we could definitely do that let's uh let's weigh our options though

2:42:30

you're gonna think about it it's gonna be a or price?

2:42:33

Yeah, let's weigh our options. Let's surprise the crowd. Okay. Alright.

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