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let's

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go one

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of our favorite homemade episodes is

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called my roommate the ghost about

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to people who told us their stories

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of living with ghosts steve

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, in brooklyn he got the sense a

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ghost was trying to find his baby daughter

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so yes the taro card reader to

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visit satellite is

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the spirit of a hard time with as be here

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it's yes is the spirit have the spirit

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time with my wife now with

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the baby now it alleges

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that had a problem with me being here

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so

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from the reading it was

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indicated that the spirit was protecting

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my daughter from me

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the other story was about a woman named krista

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who battled isolation and depression

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in telluride colorado until

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seems befriended by a ghost named ramona

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can you describe that it's hard for me to

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picture , it's on monday with

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this a while

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what are you need me

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but the girl so city

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like alarmed at a severe as scary

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as should be like

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graphene and

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weird sounds breaking but it just felt

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like

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oh just a person you know roommate or

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came over and another

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that on a couch next to me

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that feel like a female or

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yeah it said it says that like having

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with a girlfriend over

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that and even

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the alcohol undeniable

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philly talking about it because i'm

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i know so many people are skeptical of ghosts

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and i certainly was kind of skeptical goes but

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the obvious that there is somebody there

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the surface stories about ghosts

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seem hard to believe until you consider this

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forty five percent of americans say

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they believe in ghosts and

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a recent you gov survey sounded more

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than thirty percent of americans said

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they had sold they presence of a ghost

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and those numbers when even higher during the pandemic

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when people spent more time at home back

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home, we produce even krista stories we

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also spoke to a guy named castro

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he too had a spooky ghost story

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but unlike stephen krista, victor

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knew exactly what he was dealing with this

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is home, made an original

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podcast by rocket mortgage about the

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meaning of homes and what we can learn about

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ourselves in them bonus

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episode number one, the return

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of of the ghosts

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in two thousand and fifteen victor castro

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and his partner jennifer moved out of chicago

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and rented an old house north of the city

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after work and hospitality so he was gone

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most evenings but when he get home

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jennifer would tell me like there's something here something going

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on i mean i have you ever walk into

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a space for foreign you like omer

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guys weird and hair or it's

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kind of bizarre i might use your way i feel

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the way i do

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any normal ten it would be spooks i

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dispute but victor and jennifer aren't

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normal because they work on the side as

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paranormal investigators like

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people call victor the check for ghosts in their home

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except this time the ghost was in

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his home not that we were scared

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but it's different when it's in your space

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so when you're an investigator and

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you go to other places and do this so you don't

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really think of it as it's

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around

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michael

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that's a good friend who lived down the street was

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also a paranormal investigator

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the victor astor to come over with a special

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voice recorder and

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that's when they heard the voice

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when i got home i heard him like oh my god it's

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kind of crazy

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yeah crazy for sure

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then marry kind of went quiet no

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more creepy voices then

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early one morning victory was standing in the hallway

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when he heard a loud crash and

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, one of his dogs milton team

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racing out of it's it's it's victor

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westin and saw millions ball had been thrown

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clear across the room not

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once ever have i seen my

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dogs ever pick up their bowl with her mouth

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and sling it ever in anger

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or in plague or anything

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from that point on milton was

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on edge especially at night

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when sector was at work but then one

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evening victor was home watching

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tv and , saw

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black shadow shoot from left side of

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my vision and

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i immediately looked my last in and

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in know what i saw their

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shadows the dark energy

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dark energy mary

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was a talker but not you know unpleasant

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it was someone else someone

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angry

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though he decides much

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merging as a native purification ceremony

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the right things like sage or sagebrush

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and throw the smoke onto people are spaces

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victor went around the house smudging and talking

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to himself i said myself i want

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whatever did she does not

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have warm energy and

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good presence in our home

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really now

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this this it's

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bizarre in my head and

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i kept on seeing the dark man

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and , sort of i can't

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can't of how past but you could make out

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in speech or she was almost like a meeting

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missed an

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easy to been saying no again my had no

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no no i'm not really i'm never leaving and

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i remember this feeling

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is incredible sense of anger

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eventually the man in the top hat

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did leave what about mary

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days later victor learns from a

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neighbor that his house in the old days

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was own for several generations by a peaceful

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family nice people well regarded

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in the community more recently

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had been home to a series of and friendly

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and sometimes dangerous residents people

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known to the local police just

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like sydney of the tenebrous like and and is got

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goosebumps and i thought to myself

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maybe the film is warning us of what was

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already there are made didn't want

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us to be like them or they they were being cautious

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they can kinda realized mary had been a friendly

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voice morning them of unfriendly ghosts

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from that day on the man and man top

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hat never returns and if mary

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had stayed behind victory jennifer never

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heard from her again he didn't

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need to warn them of anything else

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victor have a ton of other stories most

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of them were from his work as a paranormal

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investigator the we ran

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stephen first the stories by him and

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sort this is what he told us and you have to keep

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in mind it's hard for some the solve these things

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second hand director

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said parts of steve story are

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very rare especially the stuff he

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told us about loud clearly heard

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voices and lots of things falling from shelves

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stricter said it sounded more like a poltergeist

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the goes

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laughing my first knee jerk reaction was okay

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what what is the father hiding in

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i said known as on it it can't be because

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obviously i'm because father

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i love my daughter there's no way

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that harmer ever so they can say for

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hundred percent certain but

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i think that whatever is there

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of maybe has built a relationship with

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that daughter perhaps and

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is just looking out

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for her and maybe there's

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something attached to the father

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that he doesn't know that is

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attached to him there's a powerful

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time there's a lot of people that walk around and the

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have dark clouds over their heads not literally

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been on a mean like where they are always down

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by international aid is neither a ton of be

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by themselves and we charge the

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point is that goes my not have been telling steve

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that he was a physical danger to his daughter

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but that he knew to be more presence mentally

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and emotionally

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as for crystal

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and her story of depression and loneliness

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in a remote ski town victor said

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that her experience of just feeling the presence of

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a ghost was more common this

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case a spirit like krista

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who had also suffered mental illness

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when you're know dark place it's hard

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to talk about there anybody

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so if identifying with a person's struggle

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knowing that they have something that

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they're going through they both

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probably shield each other a little bit there now

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let's say just in her words

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to didn't know it was real or not and

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she perceived as you proceed as

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exactly whatever you

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perceive to be real is real to you i

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will never take someone story away because

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they don't have evidence both

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christian steve believed in asheville ghost

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lived with them almost like they were

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roommates and both of them got

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them sense that they're ghosts had been there long before

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them i do believe that

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you have to measure up to the homes respect

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for to speak you have to give it ownership

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years or temporarily in that kind

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of outlook being humble

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and taking over space in allowing

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it to get to know you is something

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that is not often

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or and all so ,

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there's a and he didn't your home is worried about

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your intention or if you're a good person stuff

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like anybody meeting somebody for the first

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time we want to trust them and we want

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to make sure we do do your intentions

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clear and doing it with action is the

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only way to come again trust weathered

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displaying or the next i think

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doing that and home allowing yourself

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to be grateful for having

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homes live in it and using that it

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your everyday life at home will

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grow that environment to be a grateful

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and happy home whether

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real or not the notion of ghosts

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and the past residents they represents

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cause us to reconsider our homes

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where we might stand in their histories and

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perhaps rethink how he treats us

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