Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:00
Hand Me My Purse is a production of iHeart
0:02
Podcasts. So
0:04
as I perused fully
0:08
short Side's Internet, I
0:10
found something
0:13
on threads and it looks like the account
0:15
is Alex
0:18
Sorry Alex Aubrey Poetry
0:21
and the book is called Learning to Love Myself.
0:24
Not sure if she wrote it or if she just posted
0:26
or what or he because
0:30
Alex is a unisex name. It
0:33
says seven steps to self care. One
0:35
if it feels wrong, don't do it. That's
0:38
pretty simple.
0:39
I like that.
0:40
Two say exactly what is on your mind.
0:44
I subscribe to that one thousand percent. I
0:47
probably subscribe to it a little too much, if you
0:49
ask the people in my life. Three
0:51
trust your intuition. I'm
0:56
still working on that. Sometimes I struggle with
0:59
that, but it's never
1:01
wrong. I'll tell you that.
1:02
Four.
1:03
Never speak bad about yourself. I'm
1:05
always struggling with that. Five
1:08
don't be afraid to say yes, hm.
1:14
Six don't be afraid to say
1:16
no.
1:17
I've gotten a lot better with that, that's for sure.
1:20
And seven love openly
1:23
and loudly. I
1:46
can't see the bad that happened. Okay,
1:48
what's up, y'all?
1:49
Welcome to hand Me my personal podcast, I
1:51
and Me me Walker and I will be here forever, host
1:53
each and every single time that you tune
1:56
into this podcast. So go ahead and get
1:58
comfortable. Get yourself a glass of
2:01
your favorite beverage, whether that's water
2:03
fountain water. How many of y'allsoll drink
2:06
from a water fountain so
2:09
white glacier, gatorade. I
2:11
see the kids drinking it. It looks
2:13
like watery milk to me, so it's
2:15
a no for me. A hot cup of
2:17
mull and tea with honey and lemon
2:20
to help with your lungs. Because
2:22
algae season is running,
2:24
a monk pollen is covering our cars.
2:27
It looks like the Ghostbusters and Slimer
2:29
has been walking through our town, killing green,
2:32
slimy ghosts and leaving the powder and residue
2:34
on our cars. It's bonkers out here, So
2:36
make sure that you're taking care of yourself. Go
2:39
like yourself, a candle, some incense, or
2:41
burn some sage, and just get ready to chill
2:43
out and have a good time.
2:56
What's up, friends again? It's me MEI Resident Auntie
2:59
Supreme.
2:59
Here, hand me my purse, and
3:02
today I am sipping on a
3:04
mes Cow mule. While I was sipping
3:07
on one not
3:09
too long ago, I was sipping on a
3:11
mes Cow mule. I went out
3:14
and I had a mescal mule
3:16
and it was delicious. The bartender pissed
3:18
me off because the mescal
3:21
mule was on the menu and
3:23
I asked for a mes cow mule and
3:25
it also had the description in the
3:28
on the menu of what was in the mescal
3:31
mule. And he asked me, have you
3:33
ever had mescal before? And I just kind of
3:35
looked at him like he was crazy,
3:38
and I said, absolutely I have, and
3:40
he said, okay, either way, it was delicious.
3:43
I loved it.
3:43
I love mescal. Some people don't
3:46
like it, but me, I love it. It's smoky,
3:48
it's tequila, but it's
3:50
like tequila as a grown, independent
3:53
human being who serves their community
3:56
in a good way. I feel grown as
3:58
hell when I drink it, and I love it.
4:01
In this moment, I am drinking on some
4:05
green tea kombucha hot.
4:08
It comes in tea bag form
4:12
with some honey, because green
4:14
tea is life.
4:15
It's the elixir of life.
4:18
Before I ask y'all or I get into what y'all
4:20
are sipping on, I want to know how these gratitude
4:23
challenges are going because we're almost done.
4:26
Are you guys sitting
4:29
in your gratitude challenge? Are you guys
4:31
writing down what you're grateful for? Are you focusing
4:34
on gratitude? It may
4:36
not look like writing it down
4:38
every day. That's the goal. That's what we want
4:40
to do. But even if you don't get a chance
4:42
to, are you sitting in gratitude?
4:46
Like? Are you swimming in an ocean of gratitude?
4:48
Is that what you are doing? If you are
4:50
not? Pull on
4:53
you because that was the goal. Anyway,
4:56
What are y'all sipping on right now? Let me know
4:58
what y'all drinking?
5:08
So friends and came forward today's jam.
5:12
The artists for this jam were
5:15
they had another song as
5:17
a jam a few months ago.
5:20
And the reason that this is the jam
5:23
is because last week
5:25
I woke up and this song
5:27
was playing in a dream that I had. So
5:31
I got up and I turned on some
5:34
music. I turned on YouTube, actually on
5:36
the TV, and I played the song
5:39
and I listened to it probably
5:44
seven or eight times as I got dressed
5:47
to go to work. And when
5:51
things like that happen, when I have a
5:53
moment where in my dream there's
5:55
a song or I
5:58
can't get a song out of my head. I feel
6:00
like it is God's way of speaking to me. And
6:03
so that song is by it sounds
6:05
of blackness, and it's called I Believe.
6:08
Now.
6:08
Ever, since spring break, when I went on my
6:10
trip to Virginia Beach, I've
6:13
been heavy, heavy, heavy in my
6:15
gospel bag, like heavy.
6:17
I've been listening to gospel music so
6:21
much, so much.
6:23
Actually, when I was in Virginia Beach,
6:27
a song clopped into my head and
6:30
it is called I drove past the street and
6:33
it was called like Potter's Road
6:35
or something, and I was like, oh, I
6:37
love that song. I
6:40
forgot what it's called, but something about the Potter. But
6:42
it goes the Potter wants to put you back together
6:44
again? Why did I turn that song on?
6:48
Child?
6:49
I was in that car crying. It's not what's coming
6:51
out of my nose. I'm falling
6:53
all out. I had to pull over
6:55
into the CBS parking lot
6:58
and go into CVS to collect myself.
7:02
I also needed some water, but that's
7:05
neither here nor there anyway. So
7:08
Ever, since then, I've been like really
7:11
in my gospel bag also
7:14
because I felt like I needed
7:17
to be recentered, and
7:21
when that happens, gospel
7:24
music does it for me.
7:26
It brings me back right into the middle. Okay,
7:30
so.
7:33
This song could be considered a
7:36
gospel song by some. I
7:39
guess the actual genre would
7:41
be like inspirational,
7:45
so to speak. But it's
7:48
amazing and I'm
7:50
just gonna say some of the words and then you can go I'm
7:52
gonna play it so you can go ahead and get into
7:54
it. But it says I believe in
7:57
the power, and I'll never ever out
8:00
it.
8:00
Every minute, every hour, I believe.
8:03
I believe in myself
8:05
because I know I get my help from
8:08
that power in the sky. I
8:10
believe, and
8:14
I love that. It starts off by saying, no
8:16
need ask me asking where I've been.
8:18
Just ask me where I'm going. Listen,
8:21
that's it. Don't ask me about where I've been.
8:23
Don't ask me about my past, don't ask me about
8:26
what I've been through, because that does
8:28
not define me. Just ask me where I'm headed. Just
8:31
focus on what's going on in front of me. And
8:33
it's a reminder to me and
8:35
to you to stop worrying about
8:37
what's happened in the past,
8:41
just focusing on what's
8:44
in front of you. And
8:47
one line says, I
8:50
don't know exactly what it says. But I'm
8:52
feeling something. I'm feeling so good I
8:55
have to raise my hand and rejoice, say
8:57
a few words to praise him every time I
8:59
lift my voice. Listen, y'all
9:02
better talk to whoever y'all give
9:05
praise to.
9:07
You.
9:08
Better talk to God or Krishna or
9:10
whoever outlaw, whoever, the
9:13
plant in your living room, whatever
9:16
it is, the head of lettuce, whatever
9:19
it is, Buddha, whatever it is.
9:23
Because praise and worship
9:27
and.
9:31
All those things are rooted in gratitude,
9:34
because that's what it's really about. And
9:37
that song, to me, was perfect
9:40
to close out the gratitude
9:43
challenge because it's
9:45
over on the twenty first.
9:48
That was fast. So
9:50
to close out the gratitude challenge.
9:52
What a great song anyway get into it.
9:54
It's a great song. Also,
9:58
let me just say this.
9:59
I don't if you guys know this or not, and I
10:01
know that a lot of you guys may not be into
10:04
astrology the same way I am.
10:05
But Mercury is retrograde. Right now?
10:07
What does that mean? Excuse
10:11
me?
10:12
It means that the planet Mercury has
10:15
slowed down.
10:18
And if I'm not.
10:18
Mistaken, I think it means that it starts
10:20
going in the opposite direction. Hold
10:23
on, let me find out. Okay,
10:26
So it says here that
10:29
when Mercury is
10:32
retrograde, it doesn't mean that
10:34
the planet is actually moving backward. Mercury
10:37
retrograde, and this is per reader's digest.
10:40
Mercury retrograde is an optical illusion
10:42
where the planet Mercury looks as if
10:44
it's moving backward from our view
10:46
on Earth. The illusion occurs multiple
10:49
times a year because it takes just eighty
10:51
eight days for Mercury to circle
10:53
the Sun compare with Earth
10:55
three hundred and sixty five days. As
10:58
such, astrologists think that the areas
11:00
of life rude by this planet, such
11:03
as communication and travel, can also take
11:05
a step in the wrong direction.
11:08
Okay, there we go. So it's
11:11
not moving backward.
11:12
It's just an optical illusion because
11:14
the galaxy is magical. I
11:20
will say this about mercury retrograde though
11:22
it's real. I'm
11:24
experiencing it, and I am experiencing
11:27
it.
11:27
Excuse me.
11:29
In this moment, as I'm recording,
11:31
something got wonky with my sound effects.
11:34
But guess what before
11:36
it got wonky in my sound effects with
11:40
my recording. I go
11:42
to open my soundpad
11:45
and all of my sound effects
11:47
are gone, all of them,
11:51
all of them, and I have a lot. I just use the
11:53
same ones over and over because they're my faves. They
11:56
feel like things that I say in real life.
11:59
All of them gone, So now
12:01
I have to find them. I have to download
12:04
them again, and then I have to add
12:06
them and name them and
12:09
get them all right in
12:12
my soundpad again.
12:14
So thanks Mercury Retrograde. For those
12:16
of you who don't believe it's real, that's fine.
12:19
You don't have to because I
12:21
know otherwise. Anyway,
12:24
get into the song here, because
12:27
I do believe in myself, and
12:29
I know I get my help from that power
12:31
in the sky.
12:32
I believe
12:38
me kill
13:17
I think. Another thing is being
13:19
vulnerable. You know, you
13:21
have to.
13:21
There's a certain level of vulnerability
13:24
that you have to embody and
13:26
embrace and accept in
13:28
order to be authentic.
13:30
It means that I gotta just be who
13:32
I.
13:33
Am and all of my ugly and
13:35
all of my nasty, you know, because
13:37
you know I.
13:39
Have a good time.
13:40
You know, I think that I'm a relatively kind
13:43
person and I'm sweet, but sometimes
13:45
I can be nasty. Sometimes I can say mean shit
13:47
about people. I'm gonna talk about people.
13:50
Oh she ugly, Oh her shoes
13:52
is ugly. Sometimes I can do that.
13:56
To me.
13:57
I think that because I accept who I am, I
13:59
don't in a space of like I'm
14:01
not gonna be and I don't beat myself up about
14:03
it either. I don't sit here and pick it
14:05
apart, like, oh it's my self
14:08
esteem and no, sometimes I just want to
14:10
laugh at people's ugly fucking shoes.
14:12
It's very simple. It's funny
14:14
to me.
14:14
I always say on this show that I will
14:17
never like tear somebody down for, you
14:19
know, something that is beyond their control, in the sense
14:21
of like,
14:24
like some people say really mean things about
14:26
people. I don't If me and my friends are sitting
14:28
there and somebody walk by and her
14:30
shoes is bussy girl, why she got them shoes on?
14:32
Why would she do that? We laugh, we have
14:34
a good time, we keep it moving. But I would never
14:37
try to like hurt
14:39
somebody or embarrass or humiliate
14:41
somebody. That's not where I'm coming from.
14:43
But like, I sit
14:45
in the fact that sometimes I mean it's
14:49
a part of who I am. I'm not gonna
14:51
fight it either, because I feel
14:53
like there are so many other wonderful things about
14:56
myself and I'm off human being,
14:58
so I'm not gonna be And I think.
15:00
This is where that whole.
15:04
Perpetrating the frog can get real tricky
15:06
for some people. I'm not perfect.
15:09
It's a lot of things about me that are
15:11
jacked up. But on the flip
15:13
side, there are so many wonderful things about
15:16
me as a human and
15:18
I embrace them. But I also embrace the shadow
15:20
side of me, because another side of me that is
15:22
not as filled
15:24
with flowers and daisies and essential
15:27
oils that are good for calming
15:29
the mind. That's not what I'm not
15:31
always about that.
15:33
Some people, I.
15:33
Think, want people to really believe
15:36
that they are flowers, candy,
15:39
unicorns and icicles with
15:41
sugar on them all day long, every day.
15:44
That's bullshit. God
15:47
don't even make us like that. Yeah,
15:50
Yeah, God don't make people like that.
15:53
Yeah. And I think that you know
15:55
that is you know when you think
15:57
about getting to that place
16:00
of authenticity where you are
16:03
honest with yourself.
16:04
About who you are and how
16:07
you present.
16:07
Right, Because part of becoming
16:10
self aware is first and
16:12
foremost being able to answer
16:15
the.
16:15
True question of how do I see
16:17
myself?
16:18
Right?
16:19
And then the next thing is how
16:21
do others see me.
16:23
So now it's how you
16:25
know, how do people experience ebany?
16:28
How does people experience make it?
16:30
And then we talked about
16:33
how do I want others to see me? And
16:36
I think that what happens
16:38
is the disconnect in
16:40
the in the the
16:43
the distortion. The distortion
16:46
comes in with how do others
16:48
see me?
16:49
And how do I want them to see me?
16:51
And that right there, that's that's
16:54
the delusion at times because it's
16:56
like, I want you to see me as good,
16:59
but my bi behavior shows you otherwise.
17:02
And so that whole reality
17:06
has to come in alignment. So when we
17:08
talk about acknowledgment, when we
17:10
talk about, you know, being honest with yourself,
17:12
being humble enough to say,
17:15
hey, this is who I really am. I
17:17
want to read something it
17:19
says self awareness is
17:21
the conscious knowledge of
17:24
one's own character, feelings,
17:28
motives, and desires.
17:30
It is the ability to reflect
17:33
on oneself and recognize
17:36
patterns in one's thoughts,
17:38
behaviors, and emotions.
17:41
And so that.
17:42
First part of it is knowledge
17:44
of one's own character. You
17:46
know how many times we lie to ourselves
17:49
about who we really are? Like
17:51
you know, when you know how many times
17:53
if someone said to us who
17:56
are you? And we come up with all
17:58
these things, and then we think about it's like,
18:00
wait, who am I?
18:02
You know what I mean, It's a hard question to
18:04
answer.
18:05
It's a difficult question to answer because
18:07
the first thing, I think, the first thing that we think about
18:09
is that is what do I want them
18:11
to know about me?
18:12
Apps?
18:13
And that goes back to that
18:16
competing and that distorting
18:19
kind those distorting kind of paradigms
18:21
of who do others see me as?
18:23
And how do I want to be seen?
18:25
And so part of that self awareness
18:28
piece, it draws you into
18:30
this because now you have
18:32
to be willing to see yourself
18:35
as other people see you so
18:37
that you can change who you really
18:39
are, because if you don't, then
18:42
you'll keep presenting something
18:44
that you think is different. But
18:47
you know, the fact of the matter is it's not your
18:50
true self.
18:51
I also think another thing. I just read something.
18:53
I think another thing is it says I'm going to read
18:55
something it says why do people lack self
18:57
awareness? It says people who are not self aware
19:00
are afraid to be vulnerable. They are worried
19:02
that they will be judged or rejected by others.
19:04
And then I thought, this is a hot ticket
19:06
item
19:09
which causes them to remain unaware of their
19:11
feelings, thoughts, motives, and behaviors. All
19:13
I could think of when I've read that is rejection
19:16
because at the root, at the root of all
19:19
this, it makes me think
19:21
about the fact
19:23
that people nobody wants to be rejected. Everybody
19:25
wants to be you know, people can tell
19:28
that because this is being not
19:30
self aware too.
19:31
I don't care if people don't like me. Shut the
19:33
fuck up.
19:33
Yes, nobody wants to walk
19:35
around and not be liked by anybody.
19:39
I understand the concept
19:41
of not making it the
19:44
forefront or your reason for living.
19:46
But you want to be liked.
19:48
Nobody wants to be in a situation where
19:51
people are frowning their face up at
19:53
you or treating you with disdain
19:56
or rejecting you. Because rejection sucks,
19:58
and it makes us feel bad about about ourselves.
20:00
It does.
20:01
Being judged sucks, and
20:04
it makes us question our
20:06
value and our.
20:07
Worth, and so does rejection. And
20:10
so it makes me think.
20:13
That when we are afraid to be vulnerable,
20:16
and we are so worried about
20:19
what other people think and how other
20:21
people perceive us, not that we shouldn't
20:23
be concerned about our public
20:27
what's the word. I'm thinking of evening our public
20:29
image because you should.
20:31
You should be concerned at some point or
20:33
somewhat about how you are viewed.
20:36
It should not drive how you
20:38
decide to navigate, but you should
20:40
be concerned. I don't want to be seen as a mean,
20:43
old hag. I don't want to be seen as,
20:46
you know, somebody who doesn't know how to treat
20:48
people nicely, or who can't
20:52
who's awkward in social situations.
20:54
I don't. I'm talking about for me. Mimi
20:56
does not want that.
20:57
But when we're so wrapped
20:59
up up in how we want other people
21:02
to see us, we do become unaware
21:04
of our own feelings. We
21:06
become unaware of how we think,
21:09
what our values are, what our
21:11
motives are, the things that make us
21:13
tick. Because we're so worried about with Joe,
21:16
Sam, Keisha, Pam
21:19
and Tilly thinks that we
21:21
should do, or how we think that they
21:23
see us, that we don't even think about how
21:25
we see us.
21:27
Absolutely, and one of
21:28
the devastating things
21:31
that happens in that scenario is
21:33
that you become what they need.
21:37
And so when you become
21:40
what they need, you lose
21:42
who you are. And so that
21:45
you know, again becomes the
21:48
internal conflict that we experience
21:51
because now we are being everything
21:53
to everybody or for everybody,
21:57
but we yet deny ourselves.
22:00
That's where, you know, we
22:02
have to get to that place where
22:05
we're being reflective, we're being
22:07
honest about where we are, and we're sitting
22:10
in it for a minute enough long
22:13
enough to be able to
22:15
be honest with ourselves about
22:18
what is there, and also be
22:20
honest with ourselves about what I
22:22
want to change and what I don't want
22:24
to change, because sometimes
22:27
what happens is if we are focused
22:29
more on how people perceive
22:32
us, then will become what they
22:34
need, okay, and then when
22:36
they leave our lives and someone
22:38
else comes, will be what they need.
22:41
And so it's a constant it's
22:43
a constant internal battle
22:46
of shaping yourself into
22:48
what each person needs.
22:50
It's almost like shape shift. It's
22:55
okay, I go, and you know I'm with
22:57
me me now, so me me needs all
22:59
of these things. So that's what I'm being to
23:01
become for her.
23:03
And then you get to this place in your life
23:05
where you like, darn this.
23:07
And then it's like who am I?
23:09
I don't even know I'm fifty
23:11
and I don't even know want and
23:14
and and let me say this, and and
23:17
I do not and I certainly do not leave
23:19
myself out with this, but I will say
23:22
as a therapist, and
23:24
I'm going to say, you know, ten
23:28
years ago, I would have said that I
23:30
mostly hear this from
23:32
women, but I'm finding more
23:34
and more that it's with men as
23:37
well in some aspects. But
23:39
people, men and women get to
23:41
their lives where they have been everything
23:45
to everybody for so long.
23:48
When you when they get to that place
23:50
where they start working on themselves,
23:52
you know what the hardest challenge is,
23:55
they can't even discover. They can't
23:58
they don't even understand what they like,
24:01
what they don't like, what
24:03
they prefer, what their hobbies
24:06
are. We often get to that place
24:08
so stuck where it's like, you know what, I've
24:10
been everything to everybody
24:12
for so long, and I'm sitting here
24:15
thinking what.
24:15
Do I like? I don't even know?
24:20
But what you said, who am
24:22
I? Who am I?
24:24
And that is the I
24:27
mean when I tell you, that is
24:29
a prevailing question that
24:32
I often have with middle
24:34
age men and women when
24:36
it comes to getting to a place
24:38
in their lives where they realize
24:41
I'm stuck I'm not happy.
24:43
I need a change. But guess
24:45
what, I don't know what that
24:48
change is.
24:49
And part of the reason why you don't
24:52
know what the change is because you have
24:54
to go back and discover you
24:56
first. And it's not until
24:59
you discover you first all
25:01
create you again that
25:04
you that you are able to
25:06
answer that question you
25:09
know and that part, and
25:11
that's where the real work
25:14
comes in.
25:15
It's so funny that you said that. I
25:17
remember a long time ago, my cousin
25:19
Julia, had like this girl's night
25:21
at her house and one of her
25:25
friends came over. And she
25:27
was a stay at home mom, her husband worked,
25:29
she had three kids, and
25:32
her kids were getting older, they were in high school.
25:34
And she said, you know, and she started
25:36
to cry, and she said, you know, I
25:39
have. I'm looking up now and
25:42
I'm spending more time alone now
25:44
because the kids are getting older and they're in high
25:47
school and they're much more independent
25:49
and they don't need me. And I'm looking around
25:51
and I'm washing people's clothes, and I'm making people's
25:53
food, and i'm cleaning, doing the laundry,
25:55
and I'm making the bed. And I've
25:58
looked up and realized that I don't even know
26:00
who I am anymore. Absolutely,
26:03
all I know is that I'm their mother, I'm
26:05
his wife, I'm their
26:07
cook, I'm the maid in the house. But
26:10
who am I like? What do I
26:12
like? What do I want to do with the rest of my life?
26:14
Because at some point my kids are going to
26:16
graduate and they're gonna move on. They're going to go on
26:18
with their lives, even if they're still living
26:20
in the home. Like they're going to go on with their
26:23
lives. What am I going to do when they don't
26:25
need me anymore? And I will never
26:27
forget that, Ebony. I was in my twenties.
26:29
I was in my mid to early twenties,
26:32
and I just remember thinking, I don't ever
26:34
want.
26:34
To be like that.
26:36
And I felt so much
26:38
empathy for her before I even knew
26:40
what empathy was. I
26:42
was like, oh my god, I feel so I might have started
26:44
crying, you know, I will cry, honey.
26:47
I might have started.
26:47
Crying because it just made me
26:50
so sad for her to be in
26:52
a space where you have catered to everyone
26:54
else's needs for so long that you
26:56
don't even remember, you have
26:59
ventured so far away from your center
27:02
that you don't even.
27:03
Really know who you are anymore.
27:06
That is scary to me.
27:08
Yeah, and I think that. You
27:11
know.
27:12
What I will say is that first
27:15
and foremost, been there, done that,
27:17
and I know all about it. And
27:20
what I will say is it doesn't even
27:22
necessarily have to be the
27:25
woman or the man with the kids,
27:27
and maybe the wife or the husband.
27:30
But the other part that
27:33
is a beautiful thing about our
27:35
lives. But if we're not self
27:37
aware, we'll make it negative. Is
27:40
that I truly believe that we have seasons
27:42
in our lives where we are
27:46
focused in one zone. Okay,
27:48
so we have you know, I'll use
27:50
me as an example. I'm a therapist. I've
27:52
been a therapist for twenty
27:55
or so years or whatever that is. I
27:57
get to my twenty fifth year and
27:59
I realize something great.
28:01
I don't want to do this anymore.
28:03
So now I'm lost because
28:06
I've been this for so long,
28:09
and so now I have the wonderful
28:12
opportunity of having
28:14
the carriage to create something
28:16
different.
28:18
Preacher, come on now.
28:21
But if I'm not self aware
28:24
of the shift and of the change
28:26
and what's happening inside of me,
28:29
right, I'll turn that into something
28:32
that is not I'll turn that into
28:34
I'm not happy with this.
28:35
I'm not happy with the job. They trying to
28:37
do this.
28:38
You know, I'll turn the focus
28:40
outwardly or externally as
28:42
opposed to recognizing that maybe
28:45
I'm shifting to another season
28:47
in my life. And so again,
28:50
that is why self awareness
28:52
is so important, because it's
28:54
it's really about how we are experiencing
28:57
ourselves. Not just about
28:59
how we see ourselves, but what
29:02
we are experiencing. Because
29:04
I've worked with people who don't
29:06
have the family and the kids, who haven't
29:08
been you know, a wife or a husband.
29:11
But they get to a stage in.
29:12
Their life and they're like, I don't know what I
29:14
want. I've been this, I've done
29:17
this, and I don't want to do that anymore.
29:19
But people keep keeping
29:21
me there.
29:22
You know how we we start victimizing
29:24
ourselves in creating this reality.
29:28
You see that a lot of jobs.
29:29
You see that a lot in workplaces where people
29:31
are like, I got to stay here because well
29:34
we work out of school.
29:35
These kids need me, baby, No they don't. Absolutely,
29:38
you think you're the only person who can help kids.
29:40
Absolutely, And we
29:42
create these victimizations
29:45
that are not even you know, they're keeping
29:47
me and they're holding me back. No,
29:50
you're holding you are afraid
29:53
you're just afraid to start over.
29:55
You're just afraid to create something
29:57
different.
30:09
And so you know, there is so
30:11
much power in being self
30:13
aware when you have the
30:16
carriage to be honest and humble,
30:19
and you know, being able to honor
30:22
your feelings, your thoughts, your
30:24
experiences without judging
30:26
you, without criticizing
30:28
you, you know, first being honest
30:31
about what's there and then
30:33
doing the correction later. Like
30:35
we can deal with changing,
30:38
but first I need to figure out what's
30:40
in there. I need to figure out what's
30:43
in there first before I start censoring
30:45
it, because like you talked about,
30:48
you know, we can think some pretty you
30:51
know, some pretty kind of mean
30:53
things and it's in us and it's like,
30:56
oh, nobody hears our
30:58
experiences, but we do and
31:00
we know it.
31:01
But I'm not going to deny that I
31:03
think that way.
31:04
I'm going to be honest with myself
31:07
and then work on changing.
31:09
That thought pattern. But if I don't
31:11
be honest with that, I can't change.
31:13
It, because you're pretending absolutely.
31:16
I will say something that while you were talking
31:18
that I was thinking about because
31:20
I do feel like I'm a relative.
31:23
I think I feel like I'm pretty self aware and
31:25
even to the point where I will do course correction
31:28
like, wait a.
31:28
Minute, you know, girl, you ain't telling
31:31
truth stuff.
31:32
I feel like there's a freedom that
31:35
I feel just being
31:37
me, and I
31:39
can say that I know what that feet
31:41
freedom feels like because I know what it's
31:43
like to not be me. I
31:46
know what it's like to put on And I
31:48
think people thought that when
31:50
I was in that space that I was being
31:52
authentic and I was being myself. The
31:55
thing is that I had gotten so good at
31:57
pretending.
32:00
And at.
32:02
What is it and manipulating people
32:05
that they thought that that's who I was.
32:07
But the truth of the matter is that I was not being
32:11
my true self. There's a freedom
32:13
that I feel now in
32:15
just being who I am and just
32:18
being and being honest about who
32:20
I am.
32:20
Yes, I am, you know.
32:23
In the instance, let's say, in a romantic
32:25
situation or in a situation where you're
32:27
dating somebody, you don't A lot of
32:29
times you don't tell the other person
32:32
when they hurt your feelings because you
32:34
don't want to seem soft.
32:35
You don't.
32:36
And sometimes I feel like this is trauma
32:39
based, especially with I would say
32:41
minorities or with people of color. But I'm
32:44
black, so I'm going to speak to the black
32:46
experience because I don't want to speak for
32:48
Asians, or for Latino
32:50
people, or for Polynesian people. I
32:52
don't want to do that because I can't
32:54
speak to that experience. But as a black
32:57
person, as a black woman, I
32:59
know some time I have been
33:01
in spaces where I did not want to
33:03
tell a man that he
33:06
hurt my feelings because I didn't want him
33:08
to one use that against me. I didn't
33:10
want him to think
33:13
that he had some kind of power over me, like
33:15
you know, I don't want him thinking
33:17
that he got me like that, when
33:20
in fact, he got me like that.
33:22
You know what I'm saying, the.
33:23
Brother, The brother had me losing my mind,
33:26
Okay, but I didn't want that man to know.
33:28
But here I am calling all of my friends, crying,
33:31
sliding down walls, not running
33:33
down my mouth.
33:34
They got to take me out.
33:35
We gotta have tea, They gotta sit in the park with
33:37
me while I cry.
33:39
He had me like that?
33:42
What is wrong with just being
33:44
honest, like you got
33:46
me out here looking crazy. You don't have to necessarily
33:49
say that, but you can't. There's nothing wrong
33:51
with saying you really hurt my feelings.
33:55
It's okay to say I don't like that
33:57
you did that to me, or I don't like that you said
33:59
that to me, whatever, he says. You
34:01
just sent me a text message before we got
34:04
on here about something I was talking
34:06
to you about, and it was a diagram about
34:08
the things that are in our realm of control.
34:11
Because I got that real bad, me
34:13
and my therapist be working hard on me
34:15
being comfortable with uncertainty.
34:18
Right.
34:20
I heard something today that said if you are
34:23
stuck in the past too much, typically
34:25
you are depressed. And if you
34:27
are stuck in the future or worried about the future,
34:30
you are anxious. But if you are
34:33
comfortable right in the present, then
34:35
you feel peace.
34:37
Absolutely.
34:38
Yes, And I want to say it was like a Tibetan
34:41
monk or some kind of you
34:43
know, you know, one of those I'm not or
34:46
in gay kill. It was one of them kind of people.
34:49
But I feel like there's
34:51
a freedom that I experience now
34:54
just being myself, not wanting
34:56
to be a people pleaser all the time, not
34:59
feeling like I'm obligated to do certain
35:01
things, saying no when I want to say
35:03
no, saying yes when I want to say
35:05
yes. There's a freedom in
35:08
that and I think that goes back to the
35:10
very first thing that we said when
35:12
we've started first started speaking,
35:15
and that is when
35:17
you have this wall up or
35:19
when you are so focused on being something that
35:21
you are not, you don't get to experience
35:23
the fullness of your life. Like
35:26
you miss out on so much
35:29
like goodness that you
35:32
can't even see it as goodness because you too busy
35:34
trying to make sure that somebody don't see
35:36
you as something else, or somebody don't see you as
35:38
weak, or they don't see you as a punk, or
35:41
they don't think that you're easily manipulated,
35:44
or they don't think that you're mean, or
35:46
they don't think that you're not smart. Like,
35:48
it's amazing to me how much time people
35:51
spend trying to be somebody
35:53
that they're not, And like I said, you're
35:55
just missing out on the
35:57
fullness of your life.
36:00
Yeah, And you know, I
36:03
also thought about some of
36:05
the work that we
36:08
do with identifying our true
36:10
feelings, and this has everything to do
36:12
with self awareness because one
36:14
of the benefits of self awareness
36:16
is it helps us to identify
36:19
our true feelings.
36:20
It helps us to be honest about.
36:22
What we really feel so that
36:24
we can manage and control it
36:26
better, right, And that is
36:29
such a powerful
36:31
tool of self awareness and
36:33
one of the things that I often do, especially
36:37
when I'm working with people who
36:40
have you know, who have a tendency
36:42
of demonstrating
36:46
or displaying powerful
36:48
emotions.
36:49
As opposed to vulnerable ones.
36:51
And what I mean by that is someone
36:53
can be afraid, but what they'll
36:56
show you is anger, because
36:58
anger tends to be more in
37:00
control and more dominant as
37:03
opposed to feel you know, having
37:05
that fear demonstrates
37:07
a level of vulnerability and inadequacy.
37:11
And so first and.
37:12
Foremost what we do is we kind of you
37:14
know, identify what they say
37:17
that they're experiencing on the
37:19
feeling will. So they may say
37:22
anger, but as you go to
37:24
different levels of the feeling will,
37:27
it talks about embarrassment, it talks
37:29
about fear. And oftentimes
37:31
what I find is that although
37:33
they are their external expression
37:36
is anger, really what they're experiencing
37:39
is embarrassment and fear
37:42
and shame.
37:43
But it looks to other people
37:45
like anger. And I think that.
37:48
When we when we're honest with ourselves
37:50
about what I am actually.
37:52
Feeling, I can better manage
37:54
it or handle it.
37:56
You know, I'm able to say, you know,
37:59
if I'm anger, what's going
38:01
to happen when I'm angry. When I'm angry,
38:03
I'm looking for a target. I
38:05
am looking for someone to blame.
38:08
But when I admit, when
38:10
I admit that I am
38:13
afraid, or when I admit
38:15
that I am embarrassed, that causes
38:18
me to focus on me.
38:19
It doesn't cause me to focus on
38:21
external things.
38:23
It causes me to get in touch
38:25
with why am I embarrassed because
38:27
they expose me because they you
38:30
know, whatever that is, yes,
38:32
whatever that looks like.
38:33
Whatever that looks like.
38:34
And so that's why self awareness
38:37
is such a powerful tool
38:40
for all of us, because if we can
38:43
just get in touch with our emotions,
38:46
we won't have the negative,
38:48
you know, expressions and the mishandling
38:51
of it as much as we do
38:54
when we're not aware.
38:56
Listen, you said something that
38:59
was very interesting to
39:02
me, and that was you
39:04
talked about this feelings wheel. My
39:07
black ass didn't know what a feelings wheel was
39:10
until you, because I didn't know
39:12
that there was a wheel of feelings.
39:14
Remember when you told me about it and I was like, well, what does
39:16
it look like? And I
39:19
said, okay, so this makes sense because I had
39:21
heard many times that anger is
39:23
a secondary emotion that
39:25
wheel, and I'm gonna forensicat I'm going to put
39:28
a link to the feelings
39:30
wheel in the show notes.
39:32
Look at it because it's something
39:35
to marvel at when you think about reflecting
39:39
and really dissecting. For those of you who
39:41
are thinking like, how can I be more self
39:43
aware? How can I be more in tune with my
39:46
feelings, look at this
39:48
wheel because a lot of times what
39:50
you said, Ebney is so right. People will present
39:53
powerful emotions so
39:55
that they don't seem vulnerable.
39:57
Or we absolutely so.
39:59
I present like I am angry,
40:01
but the truth of the matter is that I'm disappointed,
40:04
or the truth of the matter is that you hurt
40:06
my feelings. The truth I see this a
40:08
lot. I have a family member
40:10
who does this big time. The truth
40:13
of the matter is that you know I'm sad.
40:15
The truth of the matter is that I'm
40:17
confused or I'm afraid.
40:20
But I'm going to present like I'm angry
40:23
because I'm gonna feel like I have some control
40:25
not only over myself, but in
40:27
my mind. I may even be able to have some
40:29
control over you. And then you
40:32
can feel less dominant, or you can feel
40:34
like you are not as powerful as me because
40:37
I am angry.
40:39
Absolutely absolutely, And our
40:42
levels of expression when it comes
40:44
to our feelings, they look
40:46
the same, but they're not the same, right,
40:49
and you know, and it's so
40:51
simple, but we don't always
40:53
understand that. And what I mean by
40:55
that is, think about your
40:58
tears. Okay, their
41:00
tears come. It could be
41:02
because you're sad, it could
41:04
be because you're happy, it
41:06
could be because you're empathetic.
41:08
Now, it's all the level.
41:11
Of expression is the same, but the
41:13
meaning and the source
41:15
of it is very different. And
41:18
so when we think about all
41:20
of these emotions that are our
41:22
secondary but yet they're the first
41:24
ones you see sometimes.
41:27
You know, and I would not what
41:29
I would not do.
41:30
Is try to interpret someone
41:32
else's for primary
41:35
and secondary emotions. But this is
41:38
strictly about us mastering
41:40
us.
41:40
Okay, So just so y'all know, Just
41:43
so y'all know, don't play with
41:45
me.
41:45
Ebne Ebany is always telling
41:48
me that I'm always trying to diagnose people
41:50
because in my mind, I probably should
41:53
have been that therapist. I probably should
41:55
have been a therapist. I probably would have been
41:57
very good at it.
41:58
It's never too late. Who's say that I won't be
42:00
in five years, but.
42:03
I'll be trying to diagnose people, and I will ask
42:05
her it's your fault, though, because
42:07
my first year at that school, you gave me
42:09
that book and I started
42:11
looking, or maybe like my third year, she gave
42:14
me this book with all these diagnoses
42:16
in it. I started reading it and I was
42:18
like, I knew that was what she had
42:20
or you know what, Ebony, I was reading through that book
42:23
and you know what.
42:23
It turns out that my such and such and such
42:25
got this right here. What is it called histrionic
42:28
behavior?
42:29
Yes, she got that.
42:30
Listen, I'm a diagnose you baby,
42:33
So I know you was throwing.
42:34
A little dig at me about don't be diagnosing people's
42:37
primary emotions.
42:38
No, no, the reason why and
42:40
I wasn't doing that digg at you. But the
42:43
reason why that is so important is
42:45
because a lot of times will spend
42:47
time thinking, oh, you feel
42:49
this way. We attempt to
42:52
control other people's narratives,
42:54
and you have to be careful about that. Self
42:57
awareness is about you and
42:59
how you experience
43:01
the world and how other people experience
43:04
you. Other people have
43:06
to do that for themselves too, you
43:08
know. So we get into arguments with people
43:10
and we're like, you're trying to do this. You
43:13
don't know what they're trying to do, so don't
43:15
you know, So don't go to the primary.
43:18
You deal with what's in front of you. But as
43:20
we're you know, but we're talking about
43:23
self awareness, and so the
43:25
reason why it's so powerful because
43:27
it helps you to identify, but
43:29
then it also helps you to control
43:32
the truth, right, because now
43:35
you have the willingness to look
43:37
beyond what you're showing everybody
43:39
else, and then you're able to
43:41
see what's really there. But then the
43:43
other thing that that you know, another
43:46
way that that benefits you is it helps
43:48
you to make better decisions. When
43:51
you are truly aware of the feeling
43:53
that you're experiencing in that moment,
43:56
you're oftentimes not as irrational,
43:59
right, and.
44:01
Not as reactive as.
44:03
You would be if you are, you
44:05
know, remaining in that secondary
44:07
emotion.
44:08
So we're talking about how the.
44:10
Self awareness causes you to
44:13
gain a greater level of self control,
44:15
and then it also helped you in the area
44:17
of decision making because it's like, now
44:21
I know what I'm working with, so I know
44:23
what I have to do with that. Now
44:25
can people know all of this and
44:27
still act a full absolutely,
44:30
because it bends down to choice.
44:33
What is not choice?
44:34
Come on, now, come on now,
44:38
come on choice today.
44:42
Listen and see.
44:43
The funny part about that thought is that people
44:47
oftentimes go through life not
44:49
realizing that you choose
44:52
this, You choose
44:54
to do these things. You
44:58
chose these outcomes, whether or
45:00
not you want to own it or not, you
45:03
are choosing to do these things, and
45:05
so as a result, you know, it's just
45:07
like we tell the kids, for every action, there is a
45:09
reaction. For everything you do, something
45:12
else is going to happen as
45:14
a result of what you did.
45:16
That's just the nature of life.
45:18
It's science cause and effect,
45:22
and for every action there's an equal.
45:24
Or greater or lesser
45:27
whatever reaction.
45:29
I don't understand when grown people
45:32
move or navigate or act and then
45:34
don't expect for there to be recourse
45:37
behind what they do.
45:39
And the reason why I think
45:42
that that happens is because naturally,
45:45
you know, we are often self centered
45:47
people in soul. We're
45:50
we're not thinking about the
45:53
consequences as much as we're
45:55
thinking about the level of expression
45:57
in that moment and what we want
45:59
to do, what we want to get out
46:01
of and how we want to demonstrate
46:04
something. So I think that sometimes
46:06
the consequence is not considered,
46:09
or if it is considered, we
46:12
may say or think I got time
46:14
for that, you know, like I don't care
46:17
about the consequences because this is
46:19
what I want to do. And so
46:22
in that moment, you're thinking about
46:24
you and only you.
46:26
And part of self awareness.
46:28
Going back to that ability
46:31
to help us to be more self controlled
46:33
and to become better decision
46:36
makers. But then I think, you know, one
46:38
of the other things that is more important
46:40
about the benefit of self awareness
46:43
is it really helps
46:45
us to, you know, really
46:48
recognize where the corporate
46:50
lies. Because when we
46:52
are self aware, we don't get
46:54
to blame other people for our stuff
46:57
because now we are honest, we
46:59
are open, and we're reflective
47:02
about what's our stuff.
47:04
And this is truly important.
47:06
And this is a whole another topic,
47:08
but I think that for those of us
47:10
who may struggle with that personality
47:14
style of passive aggression, this
47:17
is where self awareness
47:19
is so powerful, because a
47:21
passive aggressive person will smack
47:23
you and say that they're okay,
47:26
you know, like I'm not mad, but they
47:28
don't smack you, they don't slam the door,
47:31
but they're saying they're not not fine,
47:33
So I'm fine, everything is okay,
47:35
but their actions are totally,
47:39
you know, contrary to what
47:41
they're saying, and self awareness
47:44
comes in where it's like, you know what,
47:47
I'm upset.
47:48
I'm mad, I'm angry.
47:50
I am angry because
47:52
I not because of what you
47:55
did, but because of I. And
47:57
I think that it's important because
48:00
the more self aware we are, the
48:02
less we are the victim, because
48:05
we own our feelings
48:07
and we recognize where the interpretation
48:10
comes from.
48:10
But I do feel like some people. I feel
48:13
like some people like being a victim, like
48:15
it's a fun place to be for people, because
48:17
it's like a lot of
48:19
this. At the root of a lot of this is
48:22
a lack of self awareness. Which is funny
48:24
because I've read this thing that said self
48:26
awareness. I didn't know that there were five levels
48:28
of emotional intelligence. But yes,
48:31
yeah, I didn't know that, but I mean, I'm not a clinician,
48:33
so I don't know all that stuff.
48:34
I did read though.
48:36
That self awareness goes
48:39
hand in hand with emotional intelligence,
48:41
and so many adults are walking
48:43
around lacking social and emotional
48:46
intelligence that it seems
48:49
easier to blame someone else for
48:51
something that you essentially
48:53
you did when you chose
48:56
to do it, okay, And when
48:58
you said somebody walks around and they slammed the door, they
49:00
slap and say, well they did this. It makes
49:02
me think of an abuser who say
49:04
why do you make me at who who will say something
49:07
like why do you make me act like this?
49:09
What are you talking about?
49:10
What absolutely are.
49:14
I didn't want to hurt you? Well, why did
49:16
you do it? Then? Like absolutely
49:18
this is this was your decision?
49:20
And I think that until people It
49:22
makes me think about again when you talk
49:24
about when you first start treating
49:27
people or seeing people
49:30
and dealing with mental health issues
49:32
and mental health services, like until
49:34
they get to the place where they
49:36
can say like, all right, that was
49:38
me, I did that.
49:40
Damn I did that. But that goes back
49:42
to what you said.
49:43
Sometimes you got to see the destructure the destruction
49:45
before you can heal the destruction or before
49:48
you can clean it up, and it goes
49:50
that's that whole hurricane thing. I can't clean
49:52
the hurricane mess up until the hurricane
49:54
is finished. Then I can go and I can
49:56
clean it up and we can start a project, and the
49:59
Red Cross gonna come and FEMA and
50:01
they're gonna clean it up. But we can't do that until
50:03
it happens. But a lot
50:05
of people don't want to call FEMA. A lot
50:07
of people don't want to do the work
50:10
to do the cleanup. But if you
50:12
don't get to a place where you want to do the work,
50:15
then you just live a life, a convoluted
50:18
life of delusion, or
50:20
as the kids call it now delulu. And
50:22
you're delusional. You're walking
50:25
around deceiving other people. But in addition
50:27
to that, and more importantly, you are being
50:29
deceptive to yourself.
50:32
But I tell you who, you ain't fooling God.
50:35
That's right, You're
50:37
not full And at the end of
50:39
the day you'll always
50:41
come to that. You'll always come
50:44
to face to face with yourself
50:46
and with your God. And you
50:48
have to deal with or come to
50:51
terms with what you see
50:53
and who you experience.
50:55
But you know you you said something
50:57
just now.
50:58
It It makes me think
51:00
about the cost of freedom,
51:03
right, and so part of
51:05
the cost of freedom it
51:08
requires.
51:08
Us to give up something.
51:10
Right, there is a cost, and so we
51:13
have to sacrifice our realities,
51:16
our delusions of grande ur.
51:18
We have to sacrifice you
51:21
know, these created personality
51:25
types or you know these defensive
51:27
structures that we have created
51:29
to protect us.
51:30
From more harm.
51:32
We have to begin to, you
51:34
know, to sacrifice those
51:36
things in order for us to get in
51:38
touch with ourselves.
51:41
And as a clinician, you know,
51:43
when I first worked with when I first
51:45
started working with people, that's one
51:47
of the things that I ask them in the very
51:49
beginning. First of all, I ask them what
51:52
they want out of the connection
51:54
and the relationship, But then I ask
51:56
them, what are you willing to give up? And
51:59
a lot of time people are not, you
52:01
know, they're not equipped to answer
52:04
that question yet, especially when
52:06
we talk about like married couples and
52:08
family sessions. It's like, Okay,
52:11
you want to work on this relationship,
52:13
what are you willing to give up?
52:14
Are you willing to give up your perspective?
52:17
Are you willing to give up your
52:20
idea of who she or he
52:22
is, you know, as opposed to who
52:24
they really are or what they're what
52:26
they're.
52:27
Experiencing with you.
52:29
And so again, when we're talking
52:31
about becoming this tremendously
52:34
self aware person, it's really
52:37
you being willing to give up
52:39
something that has protected
52:41
you for so long, but it has also
52:44
imprisoned you.
52:55
Whoa there it is that
52:58
right there, that is
53:00
exactly what I'm
53:04
thinking about. You just said it much
53:06
more eloquently than I did, or than I
53:08
can when I think about not experiencing
53:12
when I keep coming back to this, not
53:14
experiencing a full life
53:17
or the fullness of joy, the
53:19
fullness even I would even take
53:21
it. If we're gonna be spiritual,
53:23
and I know you don't ever shy away from that, right
53:26
No, ma'am, We're not shining away.
53:28
From that, Jesus, Jesus.
53:29
If we are talking about experiencing
53:32
the fullness of God and the fullness
53:35
of the life that God has
53:37
for us, like we won't get
53:39
to see that. Even if you think you are
53:41
living a good life and you have
53:43
a lot of degrees and a lot of money, and
53:46
you have a husband and you have the children, or
53:48
you have the wife and the children and the
53:51
all of the things that you want, you
53:54
are still missing out on the fullness
53:56
of God and the fullness of the joy and
53:58
the peace that God has for you. Because
54:00
He holding it for you, he ain't gonna ever,
54:03
he ain't gonna ever let it. He gonna keep it in
54:05
this little trinket box right here on
54:07
the shelf for you and when you ready,
54:10
he gonna take it down and he gonna give it to you. But you
54:12
are not really getting a chance to experience
54:14
that because you are so caught up
54:17
in trying to uh perpetrate
54:20
the fraud. As we used to say, Absolutely,
54:23
you so busy trying to make sure that you're accepted
54:25
by other people, liked by other people.
54:27
And there's nothing wrong with wanting to be
54:29
accepted, wanting to be liked, not
54:32
wanting to be rejected, not wanting to be abandoned.
54:34
There's nothing wrong with that. And now I understand the
54:36
trauma. I understand probably more than most
54:38
humans on the planet, the
54:40
trauma.
54:41
That is associated with that. Trust
54:43
me.
54:44
But there comes a time where you have
54:46
to say, and maybe because of my trauma, Ebany,
54:49
I have had to say, I've
54:51
been abandoned, I've been rejected, I've
54:53
been all of the things.
54:55
But now I gotta be some shit for me.
54:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta be something
55:00
for me, because if not, I'm going to
55:02
continue to be a perpetual
55:04
victim who has been abandoned, who
55:06
has been rejected, who has been
55:09
unliked, who has been left
55:12
and who wants to live that way. There's
55:14
nothing full and there's nothing free
55:16
about that. And I can speak on it because
55:18
I used to be that way. I used to live
55:20
in that space. Oh this person did this
55:23
to me. Oh that person did that. Oh
55:25
this person hurt me. Oh this person abused
55:27
me.
55:28
Oh this is yeah.
55:29
Okay, and not to be little
55:31
or minimize my trauma
55:35
because the shit happened. Okay, I'm
55:37
not creating it in my mind. It
55:39
happened, but okay, it happened. But
55:42
I'm still here. I'm still
55:44
wonderful. God still loves me,
55:46
my family and my friends still love me. I
55:49
had to figure out if all of these people
55:51
still love me, I need to figure out how to love
55:53
me. I need to figure
55:56
out that I am great even though
55:59
I have flaws. I am great even
56:01
though I may have struggled with some things.
56:03
I am great because I am kind.
56:06
I am great because I am funny. I
56:08
am great because I am beautiful inside
56:10
and out. And that is a part of self
56:12
awareness. And you said it,
56:14
self acceptance is a part of self awareness.
56:17
Absolutely. I had to accept.
56:18
Who I was in addition to
56:21
my life's experience. Because
56:25
everybody don't come from Beverly Hills
56:27
with everybody ain't the girl from
56:29
Clueless. I don't remember what her name was, and I think
56:31
her name was Claire in the movie. Everybody
56:34
doesn't have that life, and sometimes
56:36
that having trauma and experiencing
56:38
trauma makes you hard. It
56:41
makes you want to be angry. But you can't
56:43
live like that forever. You can, you
56:45
can. But if you are living like that forever,
56:48
if you want me to be honest, you're not really living.
56:50
Absolutely you survive, you're existing.
56:53
You're just existing. There's no thriving
56:56
in your life. And I know I
56:58
keep saying this, and God is putting
57:00
it on my spirit to say this, and this was
57:02
why I keep saying it. You don't get to experience
57:05
the fullness of all of
57:07
the things that God has for you. And
57:09
that's not to make this all a
57:11
churchy kind of situation, because that's not
57:13
what I'm.
57:14
Doing, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. But what
57:16
I am saying is.
57:17
You don't I don't know why I keep
57:19
saying this, and maybe God is going to reveal it to
57:21
me later on, because maybe He talking to me
57:25
through me. But there is a fullness
57:28
of life and of joy
57:30
and of peace that sometimes we don't
57:32
get to experience, and we don't get
57:35
to feel. We don't get to taste, smell,
57:37
here, touch until
57:40
we let go of who we
57:42
think we are.
57:44
Absolutely I agree,
57:47
one hundred percent. You know, we
57:49
when we are not living as
57:52
authentically as God has created
57:55
us to be, we can experience
57:58
him?
57:58
How can we experience it?
58:00
Is a perfect God with an imperfect
58:02
mindset, with an imperfect.
58:05
You know, image of who
58:07
we are.
58:08
How can we experience Him in our
58:10
in his fullness if
58:12
we haven't even embraced.
58:14
Ourselves in which He created?
58:17
You know? So I truly believe
58:20
that with every five of my being. And
58:22
I also believe that, you
58:24
know, when it comes to self
58:26
awareness, we do ourselves
58:29
a disservice when we don't get
58:31
to know this very likable
58:34
person like you know, just like
58:36
you've described you know, you're
58:38
a cool person, like you know,
58:40
I'm funny, you know, I'm I'm
58:42
I'm you know, I'm a nice person
58:44
to be around. I have a good sense of
58:47
human you know, we can have some fun, you
58:49
know. And I say that, you
58:52
know, laughingly, but it's
58:54
the truth.
58:55
You know.
58:55
How often do we get to enjoy
58:57
ourselves? How often do we
59:00
of ourselves permission to
59:02
be our authentic goofy selves
59:04
and be okay with that.
59:06
It's funny that you said that,
59:09
Oh, you cracking up. You
59:12
are cracking up, Yes I
59:15
am, but it's fun You're
59:17
so silly. It's funny that
59:20
you said that, because, like
59:23
when you said that, it made it made me think about
59:25
something that me and
59:28
my best friend, Crystal Ebany knows. Crystal,
59:30
something that we talk about all the time about
59:33
people who want to be in relationships but they cannot
59:36
manage to spend time alone.
59:39
I don't get that, and I think I don't
59:41
get it because I lived around people for
59:43
forty one years of my life, and
59:45
when I finally lived alone, I
59:47
was like, what the fuck did
59:49
I wait this long for?
59:51
Like?
59:52
What is wrong with me? I love
59:54
being with myself. I
59:56
love and it doesn't have to be anything
59:59
major. I just came back from vacation. It
1:00:02
was a staycation. Some days I stayed
1:00:04
in the bed, I
1:00:07
ordered room service, or I walked downstairs,
1:00:09
got the food, came back upstairs, got back in
1:00:11
my pajamas, got in the bed and watched
1:00:13
television. Or I went and sat out
1:00:15
on a balcony and just looked at the water. By
1:00:18
myself. There was nobody else
1:00:20
and do you know how much I enjoyed
1:00:22
it.
1:00:23
We always talk about like.
1:00:27
Seasons of solitude. You
1:00:30
can't I believe you can't really be a
1:00:32
good partner to somebody until
1:00:34
you've had a season of solitude where
1:00:36
it's just you, where you
1:00:38
have to get to a place where you have no choice,
1:00:41
and you could have a you could be single and not
1:00:43
have a season of solitude, okay,
1:00:45
because if you're the type of person where you
1:00:48
need the validation from other external
1:00:51
factors, whether it's your grandma, your mama, your
1:00:53
cousin, your auntie, your dog, your
1:00:55
cat, your co.
1:00:56
Workers, whoever it is.
1:00:57
If you need a lot of validation from outside
1:01:00
factors, that's not really living in the season
1:01:02
of solitude. A season of solitude where it's just
1:01:04
like CMB, we all we got it's
1:01:06
me up in here. You can
1:01:08
have a season of solitude and still have all those
1:01:10
loving people around you. But
1:01:12
at the end of the day, you realize, like I
1:01:15
like me, and I ain't
1:01:17
got a problem with saying it.
1:01:19
Like I like me.
1:01:20
I'm funny, i am
1:01:23
crass, I use bad
1:01:25
words. I
1:01:28
think that I'm a beautiful person on the inside. On
1:01:31
the outside, I'm gonna show
1:01:33
up as me and I
1:01:35
accept people for who they are unless
1:01:38
I don't. Now,
1:01:40
I may accept you for who you are, but that don't mean I
1:01:42
want to be around you.
1:01:43
And it's okay.
1:01:45
And I just wish that we could get to a place where
1:01:47
people more people
1:01:50
would just live in their own truth because
1:01:52
I just I want for people to be happy
1:01:54
because and I know that sounds so cliche.
1:01:57
I want people to be happy. You know why.
1:01:59
I want people to be happy.
1:02:00
It's a little selfish, so people can stop
1:02:02
pouring their yuck and their muck
1:02:04
and their misery out on other people. Keep
1:02:08
that to yourself. If you miser miserable,
1:02:10
keep it to yourself. I love you,
1:02:12
Ebany, thank you so much for coming on
1:02:14
the show today, because I'm not gonna keep you here
1:02:16
on this. Yes, it's just an extension
1:02:19
of our conversations in your office. Yes,
1:02:21
yes, yes, we have a good time. So I
1:02:24
want how do people find you?
1:02:26
I was not joking when I said this woman n wrote eighty
1:02:29
seven books. Okay, she done wrote fifty
1:02:31
seven books, and she had come
1:02:33
to work and be like, oh, I'm writing another book.
1:02:35
I'm like, girl, didn't you just put one out? I just
1:02:37
came to the book sign and thing like two months
1:02:39
ago. Now you're writing another book.
1:02:42
But she writes books. They're beautiful.
1:02:44
Tell us a little bit about your books and where they
1:02:46
can find them. I'm going to have you send me links
1:02:49
to them so people can find them
1:02:51
and buy them if they want to. But tell
1:02:54
them about the one that you're working on right now,
1:02:56
or can you.
1:02:57
Yesk so so yes.
1:03:00
I have written six books
1:03:02
now told I am Cursed and
1:03:04
currently releasing maybe
1:03:07
in the next three three weeks my
1:03:09
last book, which is The Sober Church,
1:03:11
and it is really
1:03:14
about helping people to
1:03:16
understand the intersection of
1:03:18
faith and mental health and how.
1:03:21
You're gonna make somebody. Man, you're gonna make somebody mad
1:03:23
with this one. They're gonna get mad.
1:03:25
They're gonna get mad about this because
1:03:28
a lot of people in the church ain't no such thing as the mental
1:03:30
health. If you've got a problem, you just give
1:03:32
it to God, because God fixes everything.
1:03:35
But you know what, one of the things
1:03:37
and one of the reasons why I
1:03:39
love, love, love this book is because
1:03:42
you know, as a believer, as
1:03:45
someone who loves the Word of God,
1:03:48
you know, I'm finding more and more
1:03:51
that God's agenda
1:03:53
has always been mental health
1:03:56
and wholeness.
1:03:57
There is not a place in the Word
1:03:59
of.
1:03:59
God where I can't find
1:04:01
a clinical, interventional strategy,
1:04:04
you know, some form of therapeutic,
1:04:07
you know, principle.
1:04:09
But the Word of God is full.
1:04:11
Of interventions and strategies that
1:04:13
we use every single day. But
1:04:16
what happens is we get
1:04:18
caught up in language it
1:04:21
and it dismisses the intersectionality
1:04:24
of faith and mental health, you know,
1:04:26
which you know, when you think about mental
1:04:29
health, it is a God ordained
1:04:31
thing.
1:04:31
It has everything to do with
1:04:33
our well being.
1:04:35
And you know, we are a three
1:04:37
part being where body, we're spirit,
1:04:39
and we're soul, and our soul
1:04:42
is where our emotions lie, where
1:04:44
our mind, you know, what's in our thoughts
1:04:47
and behaviors and actions.
1:04:49
And so all of that is
1:04:51
tied into this book and really looking
1:04:54
at how God truly views
1:04:56
through the Word of God, mental health
1:04:58
and wholeness. And so, you
1:05:01
know, other books that I have are are
1:05:04
definitely helping people
1:05:06
to develop an authentic relationship
1:05:09
with the Lord and and and helping
1:05:11
them to see themselves as gifts,
1:05:14
you know. So those are all books, and you can find
1:05:16
all my books on Amazon dot
1:05:19
com. You can also find them in
1:05:23
on Walmart dot com.
1:05:25
Ont you better be on you
1:05:27
Better and Noble girl,
1:05:30
better get out of my face talking about some barn
1:05:32
you better be in.
1:05:33
You better be on a Barnes and Noble dot
1:05:35
com.
1:05:36
So yeah, so you can all, you know, play
1:05:38
with my friends. Yeah, but I do
1:05:40
have books. If you ever want
1:05:43
to visit my website, it is triplegliving
1:05:46
dot com.
1:05:47
Triplegliving dot com and
1:05:49
she doesn't mean g g G living
1:05:51
dot com. It's actually triple
1:05:54
the word g one
1:05:56
g living dot com.
1:05:58
Do yourself a favor, you know, I'm gonna put it in a show
1:06:01
note so that you guys can access it. Put
1:06:03
it in a show notes such so that you can have it.
1:06:05
And I'm actually looking forward
1:06:08
to this next
1:06:10
book because I think that I
1:06:12
never thought about Well, of course I'm not
1:06:15
very well versed in the Bible, but when
1:06:18
you mentioned that you find
1:06:20
a lot of mental clinical
1:06:23
or mental health practices
1:06:26
or I forget how you were to it.
1:06:28
In the Bible.
1:06:29
I am very very interested
1:06:31
in that because I've always had a very
1:06:33
interesting perspective when it comes to
1:06:35
the Bible and when it comes to how
1:06:39
people perceive the Bible, because
1:06:42
everything is like, I'm just going to take it at its
1:06:44
flat raw word, and I
1:06:46
don't really think that that was its intention.
1:06:49
I could be wrong.
1:06:50
I don't know, because I'm not a scholar and i'm
1:06:52
not a I'm not a scholar of Christianity
1:06:55
or of religion. But I am
1:06:57
very interested to see
1:07:00
like how you make those connections.
1:07:02
So I'm excited about that.
1:07:03
And again, first of all, thank you
1:07:05
for being my friend.
1:07:07
Thank you for being my friend.
1:07:09
Absolutely, and thank you for coming on
1:07:11
my show. And I think it's
1:07:13
been a great conversation and
1:07:16
I love you.
1:07:17
I love you too.
1:07:19
All right, thank you guys for listening.
1:07:41
All right, friends, again, let's get into this straight fax
1:07:43
question for the episode
1:07:46
today. Hey me me, my
1:07:48
name is Tony and I am what I believe to
1:07:51
be a heterosexual male. Well,
1:07:53
all right, Tony, I've had my
1:07:55
fair share of situationships and relationships
1:07:57
with women, and they never seem to
1:07:59
work out.
1:08:01
And I'm truly wondering if I am to blame.
1:08:03
When I was ten years old, I was
1:08:05
touched inappropriately several times, several
1:08:08
times by my older male cousin who
1:08:10
was babysitting me.
1:08:11
I'm sorry that that happened to you.
1:08:13
Tony, like that sucks and your older
1:08:15
cousin is gross and he's not a good
1:08:17
person.
1:08:18
And I'm sorry.
1:08:19
I'm really sorry that that happened to you, and
1:08:21
I hope that you have gotten some
1:08:24
help or talk to somebody to work
1:08:26
through that trauma, because that is, in fact
1:08:28
trauma carrying
1:08:31
on during these interactions, I
1:08:33
would become aroused despoue, despite
1:08:36
excuse me, me knowing that it
1:08:38
was not right. It honestly all
1:08:40
left me pretty messed up and confused.
1:08:43
Now I am battling with my thoughts about
1:08:45
my sexuality.
1:08:47
Mimi, do you think I'm gay?
1:08:49
And if I'm not, why did my body become
1:08:51
aroused when my older cousin touch me? Does
1:08:53
that mean that I liked it? Tony
1:08:55
from Fort Worth, Texas Well,
1:08:58
Tony, let me just say this. Our
1:09:02
bodies are human constructs.
1:09:04
They're actual, They're not even a construct.
1:09:06
Our bodies are human, right, and our
1:09:08
bodies have nerve endings and our body
1:09:10
had Our bodies have natural
1:09:13
physiological responses to.
1:09:19
Things, to things happening.
1:09:21
So let
1:09:26
me just say that becoming
1:09:28
aroused if someone touched you
1:09:32
in a sexual way doesn't
1:09:34
necessarily mean that you like it.
1:09:36
It's just your body responding
1:09:40
to that action or
1:09:42
to that touch, or to like
1:09:44
I said, that action if
1:09:49
your brain doesn't
1:09:51
know who is touching
1:09:53
you, you know what I mean? And you
1:09:55
were a little boy, how about this. I
1:09:58
am not a therapist. You need to work
1:10:00
through this with a therapist, with through a professional,
1:10:03
and I
1:10:06
am not that, so you
1:10:08
know, I can't really I
1:10:11
don't want to give you. I don't want to really say
1:10:13
too much about you, know that,
1:10:17
because this is tricky, you know, And
1:10:20
it's tricky because you
1:10:23
asked me, do I think you're gay? I don't
1:10:25
know.
1:10:27
Only you know.
1:10:27
That, Tony, I don't know. I don't know the answer
1:10:29
to that. What I will say is that
1:10:34
it's probably something that you should contend
1:10:36
with, something that you should think about
1:10:39
in process, and you should contend
1:10:41
with it and process it
1:10:43
with a professional,
1:10:46
a mental health professional. Not
1:10:48
because being gay is a mental health issue,
1:10:52
but because there has been trauma and
1:10:55
you are associating your thoughts
1:10:58
around your sexuality and
1:11:01
your feelings towards your sexuality with
1:11:03
this traumatic event. You need
1:11:06
to work through that. I
1:11:08
don't know if you're gay, if
1:11:10
you are great, if you're not great,
1:11:14
Like it doesn't you know, you're
1:11:17
still probably a really great person. You're
1:11:20
still probably really kind. I
1:11:22
would hope you're kind. You're
1:11:24
still probably a great person
1:11:27
to be around.
1:11:28
You're still probably.
1:11:30
Fun, you know, like, And
1:11:33
I don't think that I
1:11:37
don't think that you should feel like
1:11:39
you are to blame because
1:11:42
your relationships or your
1:11:44
situationships don't work out.
1:11:46
Dating is hard. Dating
1:11:48
is hard.
1:11:49
Finding someone that you really
1:11:51
like and that you're truly compatible with is
1:11:54
hard.
1:11:55
Oh.
1:11:55
I just looked on my tea bag not to divert
1:11:58
and the tea bag, the little note
1:12:00
on it says gratitude leads to love.
1:12:04
I don't know why I've read that just now, but
1:12:06
it does. I just think that you need to talk
1:12:10
to a mental health professional about
1:12:13
these things that you're feeling. Not again,
1:12:15
let me be very clear, not because
1:12:18
your sexuality is a mental health issue,
1:12:21
No, that's not what I'm saying, but because
1:12:24
you are connecting it to or
1:12:26
associating it with a traumatic
1:12:28
event that happened in your life, Because
1:12:30
that is trauma. And your older cousin
1:12:33
is a piece of shit for
1:12:35
touching you inappropriately. Because
1:12:38
when things like this happen, you know people
1:12:41
who I'm gonna call them predators.
1:12:44
Predators never think about the long lasting
1:12:46
effects it's going to have on the person.
1:12:48
And so.
1:12:51
For whatever reason that your cousin
1:12:53
did that, because he's a sick
1:12:55
fuck. Really, now
1:12:59
you have to deal with this. So I'm really
1:13:01
sorry that that happened to you. And
1:13:03
there are so many safe spaces for
1:13:06
you to work through this, and I
1:13:10
really hope that you talk
1:13:13
to somebody about it. You're
1:13:15
also asked, does that mean that you liked it?
1:13:17
No?
1:13:18
Like I said, our bodies have
1:13:20
physiological responses,
1:13:24
natural responses
1:13:27
to things. It's like when there's
1:13:30
dust in a room, we sneeze. That's
1:13:34
a response that we don't have. We
1:13:36
were not really connected to we
1:13:39
sneeze. Does that mean that I like
1:13:41
dust?
1:13:42
Hell? No, I'm allerged to dust.
1:13:44
Actually, sometimes
1:13:47
when people touch me, I get goosebumps.
1:13:50
Does that mean that I like their touch? No?
1:13:53
I don't even know what goosebumps. Getting goosebumps
1:13:55
is about. But no,
1:13:59
sometimes when people and I don't like it,
1:14:01
and I get goosebumps. So,
1:14:04
Tony, I pray that you find
1:14:07
some resolve and you find some peace with
1:14:11
this. I know that so many people do not, and
1:14:14
that makes me sad. But I pray that you
1:14:17
find some peace in this and that you
1:14:19
get the help that you need. And
1:14:22
if you are listening in my show
1:14:25
notes, there is a link
1:14:28
to find yourself
1:14:30
a therapist in
1:14:32
the show notes at the bottom. Get
1:14:35
yourself, find
1:14:37
yourself somebody to talk to about this, and
1:14:39
so that you can work through it, and so
1:14:41
that you don't have to struggle
1:14:44
with this by yourself and try to figure it out
1:14:46
on your own, because little
1:14:49
ten year old Tony can't really process
1:14:51
this, and in working through this,
1:14:54
you are going to go back to little
1:14:56
ten year old Tony, and little ten
1:14:58
year old Tony deserves
1:15:02
some help in processing what happened
1:15:04
to him. Okay, frim
1:15:09
Y, All
1:15:13
right, friends and ken for two days,
1:15:15
we got to do better. I decided to go back
1:15:17
to that book Black Liturgies
1:15:20
by Cole Arthur Riley.
1:15:23
And I told you Cole Arthur Riley is actually
1:15:26
a black woman. Well, I knew
1:15:28
Cole Arthur Riley was black, but I did not know
1:15:30
that Cole Arthur Riley was a woman. Shout
1:15:33
out to black women. I
1:15:35
don't have my sound effects. Can
1:15:37
Can I just tell you that I'm struggling here?
1:15:40
Okay, I keep opening the
1:15:43
app to see if the
1:15:47
sound effects are going to magically appear, and they
1:15:49
don't, and I'm heartbroken.
1:15:51
But since it's not, I'm
1:15:54
gonna make do. Okay, shout
1:15:56
out to black women and shout out to Cole
1:15:58
Arthur Riley, bar bar bar by.
1:16:02
Okay, Yes I did that, okay,
1:16:05
and I'm not ashamed that I did it, all right,
1:16:08
anyway. This
1:16:10
is from the benediction. It's
1:16:14
the benediction from the chapter on power,
1:16:16
and it says, may you wake and
1:16:19
rest with humility
1:16:21
in your hearts. May you be protected
1:16:23
from the greed and fear that
1:16:26
tempt us to dominate others.
1:16:30
Chum
1:16:34
after that, straight facts that hit
1:16:36
a little different, possess
1:16:39
such moral clarity that
1:16:42
you would be able to be both the
1:16:44
leader and the follower without
1:16:47
threats to your sense of
1:16:49
self. May you live responsibly
1:16:52
and tenderly, that your power would
1:16:54
never come at the expense
1:16:56
of someone else's Amen.
1:17:00
I'm telling you I did not even
1:17:04
select this as a
1:17:07
result of this straight
1:17:10
fact question or submission.
1:17:13
I did not put the two
1:17:16
together at all. Excuse me, I
1:17:19
didn't put the two together at all. I'm gonna
1:17:21
read that to you one more time because
1:17:25
some of us need to really think about how
1:17:28
we navigate and how we treat people.
1:17:33
A lot of times we're focused on competition
1:17:36
and being better than somebody, and
1:17:39
you know, trying to dominate in
1:17:41
your career and dominate in
1:17:44
school, and dominate in athletics,
1:17:47
and dominate our partners
1:17:50
and dominate our children, dominate
1:17:53
our friend groups and dominate a room.
1:17:56
What is that about? What
1:18:01
is that about?
1:18:03
It's definitely connected
1:18:06
to ego and
1:18:08
it's really dark if
1:18:11
you really really think about it. Okay,
1:18:16
I'm going to read it one more time again.
1:18:18
This is from the book Black Liturgies, and
1:18:21
this is the section or the chapter on power.
1:18:23
And this is the benediction in
1:18:25
the chapter on power. May you wake
1:18:28
and rest with humility in your hearts. May
1:18:30
you be protected from the greed and
1:18:32
fear that tempt us to dominate
1:18:35
others. Possess such moral
1:18:37
clarity that you would be able to
1:18:39
be both leader and follower without
1:18:42
threats to your sense of self. May
1:18:44
you live responsibly and tenderly,
1:18:47
that your power would never come
1:18:49
at the expense of someone
1:18:51
else's.
1:18:53
AMN. Child,
1:18:58
let me tell you something.
1:18:59
That's something else right there, that's
1:19:03
something else And I'm not even gonna
1:19:06
child.
1:19:07
Welcome to America.
1:19:09
All right, let me go ahead and get out of here, because
1:19:11
I feel a little preachy and.
1:19:13
I ain't got time for that today. I don't.
1:19:15
I don't. Friends
1:19:26
again. The first thing that I want to say is
1:19:28
thank you to God. First. That's
1:19:31
the first, the very first thing.
1:19:32
I want to say, because
1:19:35
God is supreme and I recognize and appreciate
1:19:37
the grace that God extends to me every
1:19:39
single day of my black ass
1:19:42
life. I want to say thank you to all
1:19:46
of my ancestors. You for
1:19:48
riding with me, for having my back,
1:19:50
for protecting me, for working
1:19:53
with God and tangent with God on
1:19:56
excuse me in tandem with.
1:19:57
God on my behalf. Thanks.
1:20:00
Thanks, guys.
1:20:03
I want to say thank you to my folks, to my people,
1:20:06
to each and every one of you guys that have been rocking
1:20:08
with me since day one. I'm grateful for you,
1:20:11
immensely grateful. Ever since March
1:20:13
the first of twenty twenty. I am so
1:20:15
grateful, and I thank you. I truly appreciate
1:20:18
you for being here and there
1:20:20
and everywhere. And even if you did
1:20:22
just start listening today at
1:20:24
episode ninety, can you guys believe this?
1:20:27
I'm on episode ninety.
1:20:30
I'm on episode ninety
1:20:33
wow.
1:20:34
Wow.
1:20:36
I thank you for that as well. I'm grateful either
1:20:38
way, and I'm thankful for my family. I'm
1:20:40
thankful for my friends, my friends and Ken, all
1:20:42
of my supporters, and of course, most
1:20:44
importantly, every single one of you guys out there
1:20:47
listening. I love you guys so much, and it's
1:20:49
nothing short of an honor, a privilege, and a blessing
1:20:51
for me to share my time and my energy and
1:20:54
my thoughts with you,
1:20:56
because I do recognize that you ain't
1:20:58
got to be here because
1:21:00
you want to be here, and if you keep
1:21:02
coming back to spend time with me, I look
1:21:04
forward to the next time that we get to do this with one
1:21:06
another. Now, before you exit out of
1:21:08
whatever streaming service you're using to listen to this,
1:21:11
stop what you're doing, and if you haven't already done
1:21:13
so, look for the subscribe or follow
1:21:15
button. Click on it if it's an option
1:21:18
on the streaming service where you're listening. Next,
1:21:20
I want you to go over to Instagram and
1:21:23
follow me at hand Me my Purse podcast,
1:21:25
Hand Me my Purse, Excuse Me on
1:21:28
Instagram Follow me at hand Me my Purse
1:21:31
Underscore podcast. Also
1:21:33
follow me on Twitter or x
1:21:36
at HMMP Underscore
1:21:38
podcast, and on Facebook just
1:21:40
search hand Me my Purse podcast. You
1:21:43
can also find me on threads. I'm on threads way
1:21:45
more than I am on Twitter or x
1:21:47
and you can find me on threads through
1:21:50
my Instagram profile. Just click the little
1:21:52
squiggly thing that looks like a pigstail
1:21:55
because that's what it looks like to me on
1:21:58
my Instagram profile and it will take you to there and
1:22:00
you can follow me there. If you listen
1:22:02
on a streaming service or medium that allows you to
1:22:04
do so, please rate and review the show or
1:22:06
give it a thumbs up if you can. Friends
1:22:09
again, be sure to share Handing my Purse with
1:22:12
your friends, your loved.
1:22:13
Ones, and even the people that you don't like at
1:22:15
your job.
1:22:16
Because the best way for people to find
1:22:18
out about this show is by you guys telling them
1:22:20
all about it. So tell
1:22:23
a friend to tell a friend to tell
1:22:25
a friend.
1:22:26
Please, please,
1:22:29
I'm begging you.
1:22:30
Submit a question for the straight Fact
1:22:32
segment by clicking on the link in the
1:22:34
show notes that says submit a question for straight Facts,
1:22:37
or click the link in my Instagram profile
1:22:40
look for the button that directs you to submit a
1:22:42
question and who knows, your
1:22:44
question may be featured on an
1:22:46
upcoming show. Also, remember that show
1:22:48
notes are always available in the episode
1:22:51
description. Wherever you are listening to the show, be
1:22:54
sure to take a look at the show notes because that
1:22:56
is where I put all of the links and
1:22:58
other information that I'm met during the show
1:23:01
that you may want to check out, in addition to
1:23:03
some stuff that I just want to share with
1:23:05
you guys. Also, just so you know, the
1:23:08
music from hand Me my Purse is provided by none
1:23:10
other than West Baltimore's own Gloomy
1:23:12
Tunes.
1:23:13
Shout out to Gloomy Tunes. Yes,
1:23:17
I did.
1:23:18
Last, but not least, I want to give a big old shout out
1:23:20
to my producers, Evan and
1:23:22
Taylor. Together we make up random
1:23:25
being on the dirty throats. And
1:23:27
always remember that I look forward
1:23:30
to you looking forward to listening
1:23:32
to hand In My Purse the podcast
1:23:35
each and every Tuesday, and I'm
1:23:37
out this bitch piece. Hand
1:23:57
Me My Purse is a production of iHeart podcast.
1:24:00
For more shows from iHeart Podcasts, visit the
1:24:02
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
1:24:04
or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More