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Alright, so Matt, yesterday, Michael
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decided he was going to pick his nose and
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he wiped it on me. He
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said it was funny. I told him it was snot.
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Hahaha. Oh
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man. Fizz, fizz, fizz.
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Good evening everybody and welcome to
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the graveyard. Thank you for joining
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us tonight. My name is
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Adam. And my name's Matt.
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Now, pull up a tombstone
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or settle into your casket
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Alright everybody, here we are again.
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Matt, how you doing tonight, brother?
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I'm doing alright. Good. Good. So
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can check us out. We figured, Hey, it's
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out on YouTube? It's genius
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idea, Matt. Yeah. And
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you know, what's funny, you talk about the
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guy with no hair. I heard, uh, I
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heard David tell today. Hey,
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apparently, you know, one of the requirements of a
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podcast is you have to have a shaved head
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and a beard. Like,
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Hey, I resemble that remark.
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Yeah. Right. You
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know, I guess, I guess there is, there has to be
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a dress code for one. on the hosts. That's
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right. We're lucky
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that we've got two so we can fit
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into multiple categories. You know,
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you've got the shaved head and the beard and I'm
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the idiot
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with the camo hat. I don't know. Whatever
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niche I fill, I don't know. Yeah. The
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dude wearing the hat. The dude
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with the hat. You know that guy. That
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dude with the hat from that one podcast. You
4:27
don't want to see how many different hats
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Adam wears doing this. Oh yeah. I
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mean, eventually you're gonna be like, let's see
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this hat collection. Yeah, I may
4:36
actually have to do that but I actually might
4:38
be embarrassed for me to show how
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many hats I actually have. So it's
4:42
not just, I got a lot of
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hats. Yeah. But
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Adam wears all of his. I do,
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yeah. And I've got a
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thing. I'll
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tell you this. It's a dirty
4:55
little secret, but I am so, ain't
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no retentive about my hats that
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I have a hat carrying
5:04
case. It's hat luggage. I was just
5:06
fixing to say, I saw one this
5:08
weekend. And
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I'm like, seriously? Oh yeah.
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And the sales guy was like, yeah man.
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He said, you know, as much
5:18
as what hats cost these days, you
5:20
know, you're gonna travel, you
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know, you throw it in a suitcase, you know, it's gonna
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get ruined. Yep. Yep. That's
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exactly it. I'm very particular
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about the
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way my hat fits. I don't
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want the brim messed up. You know, I
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don't want the crown messed up. I don't want it dirty.
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So I have a little
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carrying case, hard shell carrying case that I
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can carry five hats or so
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total in there if I want to. And
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I'll throw three, four hats in there if we're gonna
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go on vacation. And Ashley's like, do you really need
5:55
that many hats? I said, well, I don't know what
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the dress is gonna, you know, require
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here. I might need an all black hat. I
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might need a camo hat. She's like, no, you
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don't. But whatever. But
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yeah, and I scotch
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guard all my hats so that they don't
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get stained. I have a fancy
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thing on the inside of them, a no
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sweat hat band, which hashtag
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not a sponsor, but I wish they were. It
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keeps you from getting the sweat lines on
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your hat. So if
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you need any hat care tips, hit me up. I'm
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more than happy
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to share. But
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on the note of what the title
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of this episode is, Matt, why don't you tell
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us? What are we talking about tonight, brother? So
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tonight, Adam and I are going to look at
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a haunted hotel deep
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in the heart of Texas. Deep
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in the heart of Texas. Yes,
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he did it. So anyway,
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whenever somebody
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mentions San Antonio, I
7:05
always think about the Alamo. And
7:08
then I think about Peewee's Big Adventure. And
7:12
it's Alamo doesn't have a basement. Yeah,
7:14
you know, so I mean, I've
7:17
not ever been to the Alamo. I've been to San Antonio,
7:19
but I've never been to the Alamo. But
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but I know it doesn't have a basement.
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You know what I always think of when
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I think of San Antonio, the
7:30
Alamo, the Boardwalk and Ozzy
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peeing on the Alamo. I
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remember that. Yep. Yep.
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So we're gonna look at a
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haunted hotel that was built
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in like that late 1850s.
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So it's really old. And when
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you look at the history of this place, you're
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gonna go Yeah, I can see why this is
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a super haunted hotel,
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which is what people consider
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multiple spirits supposedly
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reside there. We're
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gonna look at the Menger Hotel in
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San Antonio, Texas. Yep
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and you may hear us.
8:14
Matt and I were having this
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discussion before the mic heated up
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but we've heard several different
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ways of pronouncing this and
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one of them sounds dirty to me so I don't
8:27
want to say that. He
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means dirty like like like
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physically dirty. Yeah. Like a gross
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word. Yeah it
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does so so we're gonna call it like
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the Menger or the Menger or something like
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that. We're gonna use that pronunciation of
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the G and not
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the J pronunciation of the G if that
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makes sense. Like the the
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gif gif argument here. That's
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right. It's gif by
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the way graphic it's not graphic
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interfacing. Anyway as
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we always say go check our sources down at the
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bottom of the show notes like how I just fly
9:02
past that so I can't get any hate there. Down
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at the bottom of our show notes we
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put our links to our sources so you
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can find where we found all this information
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and there is a lot of information.
9:15
There is like Matt said this
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this hotel was started in the 1800s so obviously
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there is a lot of history so
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I probably don't cover half of it
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and some of the stuff
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I do cover I can't go into full depth
9:30
on it so if you want to go deep
9:33
dive go down in the bottom of our show notes
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and find a link
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and go travel. It'll be fun. Now
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the Menger hotel sits at
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204 Alamo Plaza in
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San Antonio Texas so it
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sits beside the Alamo and very
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close to the Riverwalk so
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you know there has
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been a lot of history take place in
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this area. I mean
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just the land that it sits on.
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Right, yeah. Has a ton of history. I
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mean we've talked about haunted battle
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sites before. So why
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would this be any different? Right,
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right, exactly. And
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the area that the hotel actually sits on
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was part of the site of
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the Battle of Alamo. So
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we'll briefly go into that if for
10:27
some reason you don't know what the Battle of
10:29
Alamo was. It was one of
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the bloodiest battles in Texas's history. And
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it was a battle
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that was part of the war to win
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Texas's freedom from Mexico. Now in
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February of 1836, Mexican
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General Santa Ana marched his troops
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to the Alamo Mission intent on
10:47
stamping out the rebellion. They
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arrived with nearly 4,000 soldiers. Despite
10:54
the odds stacked against them, the Texians
10:56
and the Tejanos gathered together to fight.
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They held out for 13 days
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and the commanding officer William Travis
11:03
sent missives to other Texas
11:05
communities for aid and was
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rewarded when 32 volunteers arrived at
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the Alamo. But then the
11:12
number tipped more toward 200. So
11:16
he was happy to get the 32, but
11:18
then he ended up getting 200 volunteers and some of them
11:24
came from Tennessee. So
11:27
thank you Volunteer State. Now
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for days the battle commenced, but on March 6,
11:32
1836, the Mexican soldiers rushed the
11:36
compound. Santa Ana's troops seized
11:38
the church, busting the doors open with
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a cannon, and one by
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one the Texian fighters and their
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supporters fell, including Infamous
11:46
James Bowie and David Crockett.
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Now On the same land
11:52
that the Mingar Hotel is built, it's
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reported that all the men fighting for
11:56
Texas's independence were killed. Imagine.
12:01
The. Amount of blood spilt. And
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in. A hotel comes up here.
12:09
Yeah, I don't see what could go wrong. Now.
12:12
I'm a little. Snow.
12:15
A. Eight it. It's. A
12:18
You have to do it. There's a lot of places
12:20
that are built on. Battlegrounds
12:23
that you may not even know was
12:25
a battleground. Says it could have
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been a battleground for. We.
12:30
A note from Like The. Twelve. Hundreds
12:33
or something. Before.
12:36
Any European came over to
12:38
America. And. Lots
12:41
of lives lost and you'd build up a
12:43
house or hotel there. So. It.
12:46
Happens but when you know about it.
12:49
And. Then you build a hotel there. You.
12:51
Always probably have that the back of your mind
12:53
that. It was
12:56
gallons of blood spilt here. I wonder
12:58
if I should put a hotel for
13:00
if is a bad juju around here?
13:03
Yeah exactly. A
13:06
which it just as am. A
13:08
quick tidbit: Matt, I don't know if you've heard
13:11
this, but have you heard the legend of the
13:13
Pink Bluebonnet? Not
13:15
a say that I have. Okay, so
13:17
it's bluebonnet season here in Texas and
13:20
they've lasted longer than normal because we
13:22
haven't got a real hard. Heat
13:24
wave yet? But. Every
13:26
now and then amongst the bluebonnets,
13:28
there will be a pink bluebonnet
13:30
that comes up. The.
13:33
Legend has it. That. The
13:35
blood. Of our ancestors,
13:37
that fault for taxes as independent
13:39
still runs through the soil. Of
13:42
taxes and every now and then
13:44
it gets sucked up into a
13:46
blue bonnet and displayed to remind
13:48
us. Of our ancestors
13:51
battle. For. Our freedom. Of
13:53
that's pretty cool. So it yeah I
13:56
thought it was cool. I.
13:58
I remember hearing that years ago. When
14:00
I totally forgot about it until this year, I saw
14:02
some and on my i have got to find a
14:04
way to work that in. In
14:06
this episode, I could work at him. So.
14:09
He. A perfect. It was like
14:11
a planet and I didn't. Know
14:14
the. Manga. Hotel
14:16
is the oldest continuously operating
14:18
hotel. Where's to the Mississippi?
14:22
And a hotel was constructed twenty three years
14:24
after the fall of the Alamo. So.
14:28
That. Didn't seem like a long time. It's not.
14:32
A. Couple decades
14:34
will put a hotel here. Now
14:37
since Eighteen Fifty Nine. It's
14:39
been called the Grand Damn of
14:41
Alamo Plaza. So. A
14:43
hotel was open by William Anger
14:46
on February first of eighteen Fifty
14:48
nine. On the site of
14:50
Mangers Brewery. The first brewery
14:52
in Texas. So.
14:55
It was considered the finest hotel
14:57
west of the Mississippi and because
14:59
of that many many famous people.
15:01
And. Stay there including Sam
15:04
Houston, Gen. Robert Lee,
15:06
Ulysses Grant. And. President
15:09
Mckinley, Taft, Eisenhower, and
15:11
Roosevelt. Babe. Ruth and
15:13
Mae West have also stayed here. So.
15:17
A I This: this is what The
15:19
second. Hotel we don't run in Texas where
15:21
a lot of famous people have come to. The
15:26
last one was shaped like the capital he but you
15:28
know this one is not. Know.
15:30
Mango. Was a a German immigrant
15:33
and he came to San Antonio in
15:35
the early eighteen forties. And. He
15:37
began operating a brewery. On
15:39
this site. If you're not
15:41
from Texas you may not know this
15:43
but takes his his. had a huge
15:45
German population for ever. And.
15:49
That's why we we have a lot of. German
15:52
food, You know we've got.
15:55
Bare fists here. We've got.
15:58
ah You
16:00
know the the Schlitterbahn and
16:03
all this i mean it's full
16:05
of german history here but.
16:09
The texas beer industry was
16:12
actually started by german. That's
16:15
why so many of the best texas
16:17
beers are based on german logger shiner
16:19
box egan bach lone star beer. They're
16:22
there they all resemble a german
16:25
logger because. The
16:28
german immigrant started our beer
16:31
industry so that's
16:33
pretty interesting i guess i i
16:35
didn't know that. Especially
16:38
about the beer because yet. Shiner
16:41
bach has always been one of my
16:43
favorite yeah yeah mine too if
16:46
i if i have the option shiner
16:48
bach is the one i'm going for. If
16:50
you want a slightly darker beer but
16:53
still a longer but a slightly darker longer get
16:55
a ziegen bach actually like those those
16:57
are pretty good to. Too
17:01
bad luke and bach texas doesn't have a beer
17:03
is in the song about it. Drink
17:08
in luke and my beer. Alright
17:11
so in eighteen fifty
17:13
seven. Manger decided that
17:15
he want to build a hotel on the
17:18
site so he could accommodate the patrons at
17:20
his bar. It would
17:22
allow the customers to stay longer and drink
17:24
more because they can just go
17:26
to his hotel and crash and he would
17:28
be getting their lodging money as well. Yeah
17:31
what an idea right. So
17:35
he soon hired this local
17:37
architect john m freeze to
17:40
design the two story cut stone building
17:42
and it had. An
17:45
abundance of classical detail and
17:47
it said that the interior
17:50
of the hotel was actually even more
17:52
impressive than the exterior. So.
17:56
Go Look up pictures. If you hadn't seen it
17:58
it it was an impressive. The building. And
18:01
his hotel was such a success
18:03
that he almost immediately decided to
18:05
build in addition. Between. The
18:07
Hotel and is brewery. So.
18:10
He started construction. On. His
18:12
And eighteen, Fifty eight. And it
18:14
only took him to the following year to complete
18:16
it. So. He
18:18
built a forty room annex between
18:21
the two buildings. So. He's got
18:23
his hotel. A space and in
18:25
his brewery than he decided. On
18:27
a more rooms. Know he built
18:29
a forty room and eggs between the
18:31
two. To add even more
18:33
rooms to his hotel. There that
18:36
such as i hope that's a
18:38
hotel owner right there? Yeah that
18:40
no vacancy. And. Then people still
18:42
com and. We
18:44
need more rooms. Yeah, we'll turn
18:46
and away money. Yeah. Exactly.
18:49
And. He got it done. In
18:51
less than. A. Year basically.
18:54
So. That. Was pushing it
18:57
to do it. Now.
19:00
They built the basement honor the
19:02
hotel. That. Had three foot
19:04
thick walls, And he
19:06
used to use it as underground storage
19:09
space you know anna space to till
19:11
his beer that he produced in the
19:13
brewery. So. Not a bad idea. It's.
19:16
Wine. Cellar. You. Can do
19:18
that with beer. And it cools it. so
19:20
you get out. And. Sealed beer out
19:22
of it. And a
19:24
hotel actually featured a tunnel. That.
19:27
Opened in the basement and ran between a
19:29
hotel on a brewery. And. He
19:31
would take tour groups of select
19:33
people through this tunnel. To. Is
19:35
adjacent brewery and give them tours.
19:38
Of. The brewery in. Let.
19:40
Them have. Samples. To
19:42
taste. Though if you
19:44
if he likes you are you are
19:46
important or something you could. Take.
19:49
This secret underground passage over to the
19:51
brewery and tour the brewery. Now.
19:54
The manga receive such attention that within
19:57
three months in the grand opening, William
19:59
and Mary. Ring. Began
20:01
to sketch out a plan to expand the
20:03
hotel. Marry his his wife. Am.
20:06
And what had started out as a
20:08
fifty room hotel then became a hotel
20:10
of ninety guest rooms. Making.
20:12
It the largest hotel in the area. So.
20:15
The Civil War. Happened. During.
20:18
This time. And. It placed a
20:20
heavy weight on business or the the
20:22
mangers there. Now the number of
20:25
people coming to say the hotel slowed dramatically.
20:28
Winter. Mean that. Makes. Sense right?
20:30
Iraq levels are going on. You know,
20:32
going to have people vacationing and staying
20:34
at this hotel? Me:
20:39
It was so dramatic.
20:41
That. William was forced to shut
20:43
down the establishment. You. Know
20:46
for paying guests nine years. In
20:49
an attempt to show their says their support for
20:51
the war efforts. They. Decided to
20:53
open the hotels doors for the
20:55
sick and wounded. Some. Of
20:57
the link of a war. The. Was
21:00
converted into a makeshift hospital for those
21:02
who are sick, are gravely wounded, and
21:04
many passed away during this period. That
21:07
not. Able to. Get
21:10
themselves back. The health of the doctors get them
21:12
back the hell. So they passed away. And.
21:16
So. Many hotels and and
21:18
places were turned into. Field.
21:21
Hospitals are hospitals have some
21:23
kind. During. The Civil War
21:26
a manger is no different. But.
21:28
Matt we've talked about what kind of.
21:32
Atmosphere is that bring upon
21:34
replace our yeah. Now
21:36
when the Civil War and Reconstruction
21:38
were over am especially after the
21:40
railroad arrived in eighteen same he
21:42
said in. The. Manga
21:45
became the best known hotel in
21:47
the southwest. It. Was praised
21:49
for the cuisine offered in the
21:51
colonial dining room which included such
21:53
specialties as wild game. Mango.
21:55
Ice Cream and snapper soup made
21:58
from Turtles Pot and San Antonio
22:00
River. Yeah.
22:05
I and they still make
22:07
mango ice cream Their. A
22:10
woman. and yeah, yeah yeah, you can still go
22:12
get some. Mango ice cream? I
22:14
don't know. If. They make
22:16
snapping turtle soup or not As
22:18
authors. it's you're going to say
22:21
society for sale Major. Ah
22:23
yes! They still go
22:25
kids. Yet another San Antonio river and.
22:28
Now. But. They
22:30
might pull the mangos out of the San Antonio
22:32
river. I don't. Know
22:34
where they keep their mangos since grow
22:36
mangos and Texas. Yeah.
22:40
Man. You will not. but it's hard
22:42
enough on made hard enough. But the the.
22:45
The. Any citrus. The problem with any
22:47
centers. I learned this because I I wanted
22:49
own. Lemon and Lime tree.
22:52
You. Either have to really take care. I'm in
22:54
the winter. Or. And is buy
22:56
a new one every winter. Or every year because.
22:59
We. Actually get frosts here.
23:02
And they can't I lost. So.
23:04
You. Can grow it during. The.
23:07
Summer months and may get a yield.
23:09
But. If you don't cover it and really
23:11
insulated, you won't have it the next year.
23:13
So. They. Could probably grow it
23:15
but they would have to take a lotta care. But.
23:18
I bet they get it from. Foreigners.
23:20
Are. Now
23:24
manger actually died at the hotel
23:26
in March of eighteen seventy one.
23:29
Now. His death was met with grieving.
23:33
From. The entire city. But.
23:36
What caused his death? Is.
23:38
Actually, still a mystery today. No.
23:41
Prior to his death, a local
23:44
newspaper wrote Quote: Our community can
23:46
Ill spare a gentleman of such
23:48
public spirit, such enterprise, such generosity,
23:50
and such wonderful energy In Quote:
23:53
A major had grown terribly ill. But.
23:56
There was no autopsy that was
23:58
done. so His
24:00
death will always remain something of
24:02
a mystery. Nobody knows exactly
24:05
why he died, what he died from. But
24:08
he passed away in 1871 at
24:10
the hotel. My
24:13
thing is, in 1871, people just died. You
24:18
know? I mean, they
24:21
just died. They got
24:23
sick and they died. In 1871, your
24:26
body probably just went not cut out for
24:28
this anymore and just gave up. There's
24:32
got to be some hard living. I
24:34
realize the guy owned a luxury
24:36
hotel, but that doesn't necessarily mean
24:39
that the common cold wouldn't
24:41
take him out. Right. That was luxury for
24:43
the time. It's still the
24:45
1800s. Right. You
24:49
had to be a certain breed
24:51
of hard to have lived through
24:53
anything prior to central heat
24:55
and air. Yeah. Exactly,
24:58
right. Especially in southern Texas. I wouldn't
25:00
have made it. I wouldn't have made it.
25:02
I'd have been like, geez, it's hot. You
25:06
find ways to deal. But
25:09
we've had our AC go out here a
25:13
couple years. I'll
25:16
tell you, Matt, the first time it did it, we
25:19
have hardwood floors downstairs. They
25:22
put a wax sealant on hardwood floors. That
25:26
whole wax melted the
25:28
first time our AC went out because it got
25:30
so hot in the house. It
25:33
melted the wax sealant on the floor. We're
25:38
north Texas. We're not
25:40
in southern Texas. I
25:43
had a friend that lived
25:45
in Brownsville, and that's almost
25:48
Mexico. Yep, basically. Mexico's
25:54
right over there. You talk about hot.
25:58
You can see it probably. But
26:00
I mean, you know,
26:03
his air conditioner was set on like 85. And
26:08
it felt like the Arctic in there, didn't it? Are
26:10
you kidding me? Yeah. He's
26:12
like, well, yeah, when it's 110, 85 feels pretty good.
26:16
It's like, I guess it's all relative. And
26:19
it's always running at that temperature,
26:21
too. Oh, yeah. So
26:24
if it's like 120 outside or something, you said
26:26
it for 80 seconds. You
26:29
said it for 80 something in the house. It's
26:32
going to always be running. It's never going
26:35
to shut off. Yeah. So
26:37
it'll stay cold. No.
26:41
Manger's widow and son ended up
26:43
taking over management of his
26:45
properties. And despite Manger's death, Mary
26:47
refused to give up. And
26:50
right after her husband's passing, she
26:52
was quick to say, and actually
26:55
she put it in an ad in the local newspaper.
26:58
And she gave
27:00
notice assuring locals
27:02
that William's death, quote, would
27:05
cause no change in affairs,
27:08
end quote, with the brewery or hotel. And it's true. She
27:15
didn't allow the death of her husband to
27:17
affect the business at all. So it not.
27:19
She didn't miss a beat. She kept
27:21
it going and kept it producing what
27:24
it produced. And in
27:26
one year alone, Mary welcomed 2000
27:29
guests to the hotel with an
27:31
expansion of trains and a depot station
27:34
being laid out in San Antonio. The
27:36
Manger Hotel went on to even
27:39
bigger heights. And by the
27:41
1870s, she decided to add
27:43
lush modern technology and outfitted the
27:46
entire hotel with its own gas
27:48
source. Wow. Yeah. Yep.
27:52
Now, about this time in the 1890s, Teddy Rose was a Roosevelt
28:00
actually recruited his Rough Riders in
28:02
the hotel bar. I
28:05
don't know if you don't know what the
28:07
Rough Riders are. They were formed
28:09
during the war with Spain in 1898. The
28:14
1st New Mexico Calvary entered federal
28:16
service as the 2nd Squadron. They
28:19
were known as the Rough Riders. Theodore
28:22
Roosevelt conceived the idea of raising a
28:24
Calvary Regiment recruited from
28:26
businessmen, cowboys, and outdoorsmen. Roosevelt,
28:30
who was a former New
28:32
York National Guardsman, helped organize
28:34
this and was appointed its
28:37
Lieutenant Colonel. After
28:40
they trained, they landed
28:43
in Cuba with no
28:45
horses initially on June
28:48
22nd of 1898. We've
28:51
all heard of the Battle of San Juan Hill. We
28:55
have if you're from Texas. I don't know how
28:57
many other states actually talk about the
28:59
Battle of San Juan Hill. That
29:01
was on July 1st and the Rough Riders
29:04
took part in that. They were
29:06
under the command of Lieutenant
29:08
Colonel Roosevelt and they actually
29:11
made their mark on military history. They
29:14
were ordered to seize Kettle Hill in
29:16
support of this main attack. They actually fought their
29:18
way to the top despite enemy
29:20
fire and captured that hill and went
29:22
on to change the battle of the
29:24
war with Spain. They
29:36
were a big deal, conceived,
29:39
and recruited people in
29:42
the Manger Hotel Bar. I thought
29:44
that was cool. It's very
29:46
cool. We're
29:48
going to talk more about that a little bit later when I get
29:50
into the hauntings. Age
29:54
was perhaps the only thing that put a
29:56
damper on Mary's business prowess because her son
29:58
ended Up. Rejecting the
30:00
idea of inheriting the hotel, So.
30:03
When she got too old to be able to do
30:05
it, she sold. The property
30:07
to the original contract or of the
30:10
manga Major J A. G.
30:12
Eight Sniff Kampmann.
30:14
I don't want. It was hard for me. the same at. The.
30:17
Manga Hotel sold and eighteen eighty one.
30:20
For. A hundred eighteen thousand, Five
30:22
Hundred dollars. Which in today's money
30:24
is two point eight million dollars.
30:28
So. Kampmann. Also purchased
30:30
all of the exterior furnishings
30:32
for another. Eight. Thousand Five
30:34
Hundred Dollars Which is two hundred and Three
30:36
thousand dollars today. So. In
30:38
reality, he probably got it for a steel.
30:41
Yeah, we're. Considering
30:43
what they could make. Now.
30:45
Under Can't Land Management, a new bar was installed
30:47
on. It became one of the most elegant of
30:49
it's day. And it was. Almost.
30:52
Identical. To. The Bar
30:54
at the House of Lords Club in
30:56
London. So. He is trying
30:59
of. Fans. Of Fi an even more.
31:02
In it had a teary would bar, matching
31:04
kerry wood ceiling and french mirror. So it
31:06
was like this: You. Walk in
31:08
and go. Holy cow as extravagant!
31:12
Now. They are There was a fire.
31:15
That. Happened. And. When.
31:17
When the reports actually came out in
31:19
the newspaper, On. October fifteenth Of
31:21
Nineteen Twenty Four. The. Headlines
31:23
read. Flames. Route
31:26
Manga guests. Fifteen.
31:28
Million dollars Oil exploding.
31:32
So. All the oil exploding was
31:34
not responsible for the fire. The.
31:36
Conflagration did occur. And
31:39
it started in the kitchen. In. The
31:41
hotels new addition. The. Flames.
31:43
You know when up the walls and ceiling?
31:46
Would would ultimately be Mangers
31:48
downfall because the far left
31:50
along the woodwork. All
31:53
this new would. That.
31:55
They put in. That. Actually ended up
31:57
being a problem. you
31:59
know It made
32:04
the whole place heat up like
32:09
the wood expanded because of the heat. It
32:13
ended up completely swallowing the
32:15
entire third and fourth floors because
32:18
it kind of swelled and fell down into
32:20
the chimney. All
32:23
of the guests were urged to evacuate the premises
32:25
thanks to a night clerk. He
32:27
realized that there was a
32:29
fire in the middle
32:31
of the night somehow. We don't know
32:34
how he did. But he was running
32:36
from room to room and he was knocking
32:38
on the doors and waking the guest and
32:40
telling him to get out. Well
32:43
apparently one of the guests, they
32:47
were so hysterical that they
32:49
ended up pushing this poor guy
32:51
down the stairs. Just
32:54
in a panic. In a panic. The
32:57
guy who just saved his life, he
33:00
just pushed him down the stairs in hysteria.
33:04
Just so you know the clerk was not seriously
33:07
injured. Which is good.
33:09
I would hate for that to be his,
33:11
you know, he's saving everybody and some
33:13
jack wagon throws him down the stairs.
33:16
Get out of my way! It
33:21
was not the
33:23
101 guest at the manger
33:26
who got hurt. Instead the injuries
33:28
came when the fire engine came
33:31
down the road. Now this
33:33
fire engine heading to the fire at
33:35
the manger rammed into an oncoming street
33:37
car injuring the firemen.
33:41
So AJ Ashbrook and
33:43
WR Boyd who were
33:45
operating the vehicle and three people on the
33:47
street car got injured. So
33:50
one of the firemen was found quote
33:52
unconscious under the wreckage but there's
33:54
no mention of his death in the records.
33:57
So don't know if he died or not. Now
34:01
the Express actually recorded it as
34:03
quote, rarely have the firemen
34:05
had to do battle with a more
34:08
stubborn or spectacular fire end quote. Apparently
34:11
the flames covered the whole block. As
34:13
we know from old fires,
34:17
everything's wood, everything's flammable. If a fire
34:19
started up in the 1800s or early
34:21
1900s, you
34:28
could just imagine the whole city was probably going to
34:30
go. Cause it
34:32
just jumped from house to house and they
34:34
couldn't put it out in time and anything.
34:36
But at the
34:38
manger hotel, the original section of the
34:41
hotel was actually spared heavy damage, which
34:43
is good. It
34:46
was only after the fire had
34:48
burned for 45 minutes that the Houston
34:50
Post wrote that quote, the
34:53
flames, which at first threatened the
34:55
entire building were brought under control.
34:58
The lighting plant was put out of commission
35:00
and guests are forced to grope their way
35:02
to the exits in the darkness end quote.
35:06
But it,
35:09
it, it was spared and
35:12
it kept on, you know, housing
35:15
guests and everything after they rebuilt
35:17
and all that. And we've
35:19
talked about the famous people that
35:22
have stayed at the manger. Matt,
35:25
the most famous guests
35:27
to stay at the manger hotel
35:30
was a guy named Bill. In
35:33
the early, Mr. Bill. Now
35:36
in the early 1900s, a,
35:39
a fair performer did
35:41
the unthinkable. He
35:43
left the manger without paying his
35:45
bill. So it
35:48
was like a dine and dash kind of thing, but it
35:50
was a, I'm going to crash. It was a crash and
35:52
dash. They crashed there one night and then
35:54
left without paying his bill. Now,
35:58
you know, It
36:00
says you gotta wonder how desperate he was to
36:02
avoid the payment. Because
36:05
in him leaving he left his
36:07
750 pound bull alligator
36:10
behind in the room. Why
36:16
did this guy have an alligator?
36:19
He was a he was a fair performer. That
36:22
doesn't explain it. What
36:25
are you doing? With the alligator?
36:27
With a 750 pound alligator? Yeah,
36:29
it's a good question. I don't know. Why you have it in
36:32
your room, I also don't understand
36:34
why you're sleeping with a
36:36
nearly thousand pound alligator. Ugh. Yeah.
36:39
I have a tendency to avoid sleeping
36:41
in areas where I could
36:44
be eaten. Yeah. I
36:48
was gonna say I have a tendency
36:50
to avoid sleeping with things that
36:52
could kill me, but Ashley watches so many murder shows
36:54
she might actually be able to kill me and get
36:56
away with it. That would be
36:58
a lie. But anyway. Now
37:01
instead of evicting the
37:04
alligator off their grounds, management
37:07
actually decided to name him Bill. And
37:10
they allowed him free reign
37:12
of the atrium. Sometimes
37:15
they said if he was nice, they
37:18
brought other alligators in so that Bill could
37:20
have a friend around. So
37:23
how many hotels do you know of that you go
37:25
into the atrium and you've got to dodge alligators? That
37:28
doesn't even happen in Louisiana. I know.
37:33
Most of the time, alligators
37:35
are persona nongrada in hotels.
37:39
Right. Right. Most
37:41
of the time, if an alligator is walking
37:44
toward the door, people are running, shutting the
37:46
doors, they don't let it in and hey,
37:49
go play in the atrium. And
37:51
if he was being nice, what
37:55
was he doing when he wasn't nice? Right.
37:57
Right. And What do you do to an alligator when it's
37:59
nice? Not nice. I know he stuck to you.
38:01
went on scholes you in on a guess lag?
38:03
you know who our by. Oh you're not. be
38:05
a nice. Put. Little Timmy down
38:08
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38:10
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38:32
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38:34
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38:37
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38:39
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38:42
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38:47
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38:49
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40:29
the Great Depression era did
40:31
slow business for the hotel
40:33
but the 1940s saw a reemergence
40:36
of the manger's popularity. They
40:39
did renovations and
40:41
they added on to the hotel by
40:44
the new owners, the Moody
40:46
family. And famous
40:49
people once again returned to their
40:51
favorite spot. This is when
40:53
Mae West and Babe Ruth stayed
40:55
there. Roy Rogers stayed
40:59
there as well and 13 of
41:02
the US presidents have stayed
41:04
here. So that's kind
41:07
of cool. Yeah. A total of
41:09
13 presidents stay here. Now
41:11
the manger was awarded a state historic marker in 1980
41:13
and in 1989 it received one of the
41:18
highest praises for being a historical
41:20
hotel by being listed on
41:23
the National Trust for historic preservation.
41:25
Now the manger has a Halloween
41:28
party there for children and
41:30
it has an annual Christmas party for
41:32
underprivileged children so it
41:34
deserves the accolades for the
41:37
finest hotel west of the Mississippi.
41:40
Oh yeah Yeah absolutely. So
41:44
you know with with all of
41:46
this history you can understand
41:50
that the manger hotel
41:52
is probably haunted. Yep.
41:56
And not only is it haunted
41:59
by a few
42:02
ghosts. Just
42:04
a couple. It's estimated that it may be
42:07
haunted by as many as 45 ghosts.
42:11
Good grief. It
42:15
depends on who you ask. It's kind of
42:17
up for dispute. Some people
42:19
say around 32 others are closer to
42:21
45. That's a lot of ghosts. Yeah,
42:28
either way. It's a lot of ghosts. And,
42:32
you know, guests at the Menger
42:34
have reported paranormal
42:36
phenomena that just it
42:39
covers the gambit. Everything
42:42
from witnessing beds actually
42:44
levitate off the floor
42:46
to hearing these
42:48
strange wrapping noises and
42:51
even seeing translucent faces
42:54
appear beside
42:58
of their own when they're looking in a mirror.
43:00
So like you're looking in a mirror and then
43:03
all of a sudden there's another ghostly face looking
43:05
in like it's leaning in next to you. Like
43:08
you're taking a selfie. Dude,
43:10
that could start on you so bad you might pee
43:12
a little. Oh yeah. If you're sitting there like fixing
43:15
your beard or brushing your teeth and
43:17
all of a sudden this head just
43:19
pops up right next to you. Yeah.
43:21
I'd probably scream a little bit. Yeah.
43:24
The scent of cigar smoke can
43:27
be detected in non-smoking
43:29
rooms and
43:31
the heavy doors in the hotel
43:33
are often known to open without
43:36
any source to actually push
43:38
them open. You
43:41
know, these big heavy doors, something
43:43
heavier than a breeze would be able to
43:46
to push open. They just open on their
43:48
own. Yeah, and
43:50
that's crazy. You can see
43:53
normal doors like doors
43:55
you have in your house because
43:57
a lot of times they're hollow. or
44:00
their lightweight wood, but these
44:02
old heavy doors, it takes a lot
44:04
to move an old heavy door. That's
44:06
right. You gotta get some momentum going.
44:10
Now we talked about Teddy Roosevelt
44:13
being one of the more famous individuals
44:16
that visited the Menger. His
44:19
spirit may still be there. And
44:23
even though a hundred years
44:25
have passed, many
44:27
of the Rough Riders also are
44:30
seen at the Menger. But
44:33
the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt is
44:36
one of the more frequently seen spirits.
44:40
And he's usually seen and or heard
44:43
at the bar. So
44:47
when the staff close up at night, they've seen
44:49
a man appear at the bar. He's kind of
44:51
this translucent figure.
44:55
He doesn't move. He's just kind
44:57
of there. But
45:01
when he appears, people have
45:03
said, it
45:05
feels like they're being watched. And then
45:07
they look down the bar and there's
45:10
Teddy Roosevelt's ghost. Now,
45:13
sometimes the
45:15
ghost is quite vocal.
45:19
And while he's seated at the bar, he's
45:21
been known to yell out at workers and
45:25
try to coerce them into conversation. And
45:28
on rare occurrences, when staff
45:31
have actually approached the apparition,
45:34
he has said to start his recruiting tactics
45:36
as though he's trying to get
45:39
them to join the Rough Riders. Ha
45:41
ha ha ha. That's actually kind
45:43
of cool. I know. That's cool.
45:45
You don't usually get an apparition that
45:47
will speak. But
45:51
for the most part, the staff
45:53
say they're not afraid of Teddy.
45:57
But there was one time that...
46:00
that he spooked a staff member.
46:03
This guy was a new employee and
46:06
he had been given the job to
46:09
close the bar down at night. Now
46:11
he was almost finished and he heard a
46:13
sound behind him. And so he
46:16
turned around and he saw a man at
46:18
the bar. Now Teddy
46:21
was doing his thing. He's
46:24
just sitting there and
46:26
staring off. But
46:29
when he saw this, the new
46:31
employee panicked. And
46:33
so he was pretty scared and he ran to
46:35
the door to leave the bar, but then he
46:37
realized that he had been locked in. So
46:42
he started banging with
46:44
his fists on the door. And
46:48
they don't really know how long, but
46:51
they finally, somebody finally
46:53
heard him and
46:56
went and let him out. Oh,
46:58
geez. They
47:00
don't know really how long he was trapped in there,
47:02
how long the ghost was in there with him. But
47:06
they said he practically would claw the
47:08
doors trying to get out. Oh
47:11
yeah. I
47:14
believe it. If something trapped me in a
47:16
room and was messing with me, I'd
47:18
be trying to claw my way out. Oh yeah. But
47:21
it said that that employee refused to go
47:23
back into the bar. I
47:25
don't doubt it. I
47:27
don't blame him. And he quit not too long
47:29
after that. Makes
47:32
sense. But they say
47:34
that the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt
47:38
is still making appearances
47:40
even today. Now,
47:44
the next spirit that is
47:46
frequently seen is
47:49
that of Sally White. Now,
47:52
Sally White was one of the
47:54
Menger Hotel's most beloved staff members
47:57
during the late 19th century. You
48:00
know, she was a good lady.
48:04
She was the sort of person
48:06
that took pleasure in completing her
48:08
duties as a chambermaid. She
48:10
was very pleasant. She smiled
48:12
all the time. So
48:16
everybody just enjoyed being around
48:18
Sally. Now
48:20
the problem was, as happy
48:23
as Sally looked, her
48:25
home life wasn't that happy. And
48:28
her common law husband, Mr.
48:31
Harry Wheeler, was
48:33
kind of a jealous fellow
48:35
and stories would circulate at
48:37
the hotel that Wheeler
48:40
was always jealous of any
48:42
attention given to Sally. And
48:46
his jealousy would bring
48:48
about these arguments, some
48:51
of them even happening there at the
48:53
hotel. Now
48:55
on March 28th of 1876, Harry
49:00
Wheeler's jealousy took
49:02
a deadly turn. On
49:04
the evening before one of Harry
49:06
and Sally's arguments had escalated, Wheeler
49:09
turned on Sally and
49:12
closed in on her so furious that
49:14
he threatened to kill her. Now
49:17
panicked, Sally ran
49:19
out from her husband to the local
49:21
police station. And she
49:23
begged officers to help her. They
49:26
agreed, and they let her stay
49:28
at the courthouse for the remainder of the night.
49:32
Now an investigation of Wheeler and
49:34
their house showed no signs of
49:36
any weapons which left
49:38
the officers without any sort of
49:40
leverage to arrest him and put him in
49:43
jail. Now
49:45
early the next morning, Sally went back home
49:47
to gather some items before heading to work
49:49
at the Menger, and
49:52
Harry had been waiting for her. And
49:54
he had been waiting with a loaded pistol.
49:58
Now Sally ran. She
50:02
ran out of the house, down
50:04
the street, and trying
50:06
to get away from Harry, but
50:09
he followed. And he followed
50:11
her down two blocks, and when he caught
50:13
up to her, he grabbed
50:15
her around the throat, and he
50:18
unloaded all six shots. It
50:22
says he shot her once in the lower
50:24
abdomen, and when she squirmed out of his
50:26
grasp, he fired again and shot
50:28
her just to the left of her spine. Now
50:32
Sally White died two
50:34
days later on
50:37
one of the third-level floors of the
50:39
original part of the hotel, the
50:41
part that's still there. Harry
50:45
Wheeler was never arrested for the murder
50:47
of his common-law wife. He
50:49
went missing after the shooting, and no
50:51
one is quite certain what happened to
50:53
him. Now,
50:56
Mary Mingar and the other management
50:58
at the hotel had loved Sally
51:00
so much that they
51:02
decided to fund Sally's funeral
51:04
costs. The 1876
51:07
receipt can still be found in the
51:09
lobby of the Mingar Hotel, where they
51:11
paid cash for Sally White.
51:17
It said that the grave they paid $25, and the
51:19
coffin was $7. Man.
51:27
You can't get buried for that now. No.
51:30
No. I was going to say,
51:33
we all know, we just had to bury
51:35
my grandmother at the end of last year, and
51:39
it was nowhere near that. It
51:41
was way more than that. Right.
51:47
But that was still a good amount of
51:49
money then, and it was probably more money
51:51
than Sally or any of her family would
51:53
have had. Sure. In 1876, yeah. But
51:58
today, Sally White... White's
52:00
ghost is still seen frequently throughout
52:02
the hotel, most
52:04
often on the third floor where she passed
52:06
away over 100 years ago. But
52:10
it seems that even in death, Sally enjoys
52:12
her work at the Mingar because
52:15
she is most often seen holding
52:17
an armful of towels or sheets
52:19
against her chest. And
52:22
Sally's presence is one most often
52:24
reported by guests of the hotel.
52:27
And if you ask the front desk, they'll
52:30
tell you that they occasionally receive
52:32
calls about a strange maid wearing
52:34
an old-fashioned uniform who
52:36
suddenly disappears and
52:39
doesn't answer when spoken to. On
52:43
two different occasions, guests reported seeing
52:45
Sally's ghost walk through a door
52:47
or a wall as
52:49
though the barrier wasn't even there. As
52:53
always, her hands were full of sheets and
52:55
towels. On the second
52:57
occasion, the guest had just gotten
52:59
out of the shower when she saw
53:02
Sally's apparition folding sheets at the edge
53:04
of her bed. Now that'll get
53:06
you. Yeah. Sounds like,
53:08
would you like a towel? Yeah. So
53:11
it scared her pretty good. And the guest
53:13
ran downstairs to the front desk and
53:15
told the concierge everything that she had
53:18
seen. Okay. Quick
53:21
question. Did she get
53:23
dressed? It
53:26
doesn't specify. But
53:29
I'm wanting to say probably not.
53:32
Yeah. The way it's worded, it sounds like she
53:34
just screamed and took off running. Right.
53:37
Right. So I think that's the
53:39
gist of the story is that it scared her
53:41
so much that she just ran down there before
53:43
she got dressed. Grabbed
53:46
a towel that Sally was folding and took
53:48
off. Yeah. Yeah.
53:52
If you're, if you're hoping that you get
53:54
a chance to see Sally, if you ever
53:56
visit the Menger, make sure to
53:58
book your room on the third. floor of
54:00
the original section of the hotel. It
54:04
says keep a lookout for a
54:06
nearly translucent form wearing a mage
54:08
uniform with a scarf tied
54:10
around her head and a necklace
54:12
of beads. Well
54:15
very specific you know what you're looking for.
54:17
That's right because if you
54:19
see another ghost that may not be Sally
54:22
right you'd be disappointed. Yeah
54:25
if she doesn't have a scarf and beads
54:27
I mean you're like look
54:29
Teddy I'm not here to see you I
54:32
came here to see Sally. That's right. Go
54:34
get Sally. Now
54:38
another notable spirit in the Menger
54:40
Hotel is that of Captain Richard
54:42
King. Now originally
54:44
from New York Richard's poor
54:47
Irish family lacked the funds to provide
54:49
for their son so
54:51
seeing no other opportunities King's
54:53
parents opted to sell young
54:56
Richard as an indentured servant.
54:59
Hmm. Now Richard despised his
55:01
time with a jeweler in New
55:03
York and at the first opportunity
55:06
he escaped and stole away
55:08
on a ferry destined for the Mississippi River.
55:10
Now Richard
55:12
King would go on to be one
55:15
of the most successful entrepreneurs of the
55:17
19th century in all of
55:19
America. That's great. He
55:21
founded a steamboat company and actually worked
55:24
as a blockade runner during the Civil
55:26
War. Hmm. Now
55:28
after visiting Texas for the first time
55:31
King decided to buy land in Corpus
55:33
Christi and there he
55:35
opened King Ranch which
55:37
would end up growing to a
55:39
monstrous one million acres. Yep.
55:43
So Richard King really
55:45
was a king. I mean
55:48
he was a cattle baron. Yeah.
55:50
Yep. He developed a love and
55:52
appreciation for the Menger Hotel during his
55:55
trips to San Antonio for business. In
55:58
fact he stayed so often that
56:00
the hotel gave him
56:02
his own private suite on the second
56:04
floor. Oh wow. He
56:07
was there a lot. He was there quite a bit. And
56:10
so when King grew deathly ill
56:12
with stomach cancer, he
56:15
actually requested to be brought to his
56:17
private suite where he passed away on
56:20
April 14, 1885. So
56:23
again, it was another fellow
56:26
that died inside the hotel. That's
56:31
a weird request to me. Yeah. He
56:33
wrote, I would want to go
56:35
on my property.
56:37
My big rain? My million acres. Yeah.
56:41
I got a million acres. I don't want to
56:43
go to San Antonio. I want to stay on
56:45
my million acres and spend my
56:47
last minutes here. Yeah. But that just kind of
56:49
tells you how
56:52
much the Menger Hotel meant to him. Now
56:56
his funeral was actually held downstairs
56:58
in the Menger's lobby, and
57:00
it said that the celebration was
57:02
the largest funeral procession seen in
57:06
quite some time in San Antonio. So
57:09
not only was he well respected, he
57:11
was well liked. Yeah.
57:16
Now, much like Sally
57:19
White, Richard King was not
57:21
about to let death be the reason that
57:23
he left the Menger. And
57:26
since the time of his death, his
57:28
ghost has been spotted at the Menger,
57:30
most especially in his old private suite.
57:33
That makes sense. Yeah. Today the suite
57:35
is known as the King Ranch Suite,
57:38
and you can stay there on your next trip
57:41
to San Antonio. Probably
57:43
not. I probably can't afford it. Here's
57:47
the catch. The
57:49
bed in the suite is
57:51
the same bed that King died on.
57:53
Oh wow. Yeah. They've
57:58
changed the sheets. Well,
58:00
that's good. Yeah, they have changed the sheets.
58:03
Did Sally change the sheets? You know that, I
58:05
don't know. But
58:09
guests have reported all sort of
58:12
phenomena inside the suite, especially the
58:15
sense of being watched. One
58:18
woman... Can
58:20
I say that any weirder? One
58:23
woman. One woman. Womings? One
58:29
woman while sleeping was awoken
58:32
to glance at the foot of her bed
58:34
and see an apparition of Captain King watching
58:36
her. Creepy. You
58:38
know, we've heard that before. You
58:40
wake up and there's somebody standing at the end of your
58:42
bed. Now, look,
58:46
I don't know if it's happened to you, but
58:50
when your kids walk into your room at
58:52
night and just kind of stand there and
58:56
something about your brain says, somebody
58:59
is standing here. And you
59:01
wake up and look, it will scare the
59:03
absolute crap out of you. Dude,
59:06
yeah, I have almost punched Michael
59:08
because he used
59:11
to like to sneak down the hallway and
59:14
sneak into our room and
59:16
like be as quiet as he could until he
59:18
got into the room. The
59:22
first time he did it, he just stood there, like
59:24
you're saying, until we woke up and both
59:26
Ash and I, you know,
59:30
and you wake me up like that, I'm
59:32
going to like throw a hand up and he was
59:34
close. I almost got him. And
59:37
Ash was like, you've got to make noise. Don't
59:40
just sneak in. So the
59:42
next time he sneaks down the hallway, sneaks
59:44
into the room and goes, hey,
59:47
and both of us went, oh my God. We're
59:52
like, no, make noise coming out of
59:54
your room. Shut your
59:56
door. Down the hallway. Yeah. Start
59:59
down the hallway making noise that way. I
1:00:01
know it's you because Ashley's Ashley told him
1:00:04
Dad, I'm gonna punch you in the face
1:00:06
one day accidentally if you if
1:00:08
you sneak up on him like that He's gonna
1:00:10
just throw a hand up
1:00:12
and get you accidentally make noise Hey
1:00:22
More noise different noise Piper
1:00:25
used to be there worst about it.
1:00:27
She would just And it
1:00:30
would scare the I mean,
1:00:32
yeah, I mean she could she could
1:00:34
probably crawl
1:00:37
into the bed And
1:00:39
not wake me up But
1:00:41
boy, just in the right there Mm-hmm.
1:00:44
Give me a break So
1:00:46
for some reason you can hear that heavy breathing.
1:00:48
Yeah But I'm telling
1:00:51
you if you wake up like that and
1:00:53
you look and see a ghost. Oh I
1:00:58
mean, yeah, it'd be over well,
1:01:01
and we've also talked about the the
1:01:05
Apparitions watching women sleep and
1:01:08
I mean to me that's way creepier than
1:01:10
if you said oh and watching a dude
1:01:12
sleep Mm-hmm, you know for some reason
1:01:14
a dude apparition watching a lady sleep. It's
1:01:16
like oh, I know dude I would tell
1:01:18
you to get a life, but that's over
1:01:20
with sure so get an afterlife I'm Now
1:01:26
other guests have claimed to hear
1:01:28
heavy footsteps walking around in
1:01:31
the room They've
1:01:33
also heard the shutters on the windows
1:01:35
open and closed by themselves And
1:01:38
Captain King's apparition has been spotted roaming
1:01:41
the hallways on the second floor and
1:01:43
then disappearing through doorways But The
1:01:48
strangest paranormal activity must
1:01:50
be the dancing red orb that
1:01:52
has only ever appeared in King's
1:01:55
suite or just outside
1:01:57
it which
1:01:59
is That is unusual because,
1:02:02
you know, when
1:02:04
you, when you see orbs, very
1:02:07
rarely do you go, that's a
1:02:10
red orb. And
1:02:12
then you see it often enough
1:02:15
that you're able to associate it with
1:02:17
a location. Yeah.
1:02:20
Most of the time it, you
1:02:22
know, how we are about orbs, you know, they,
1:02:25
you see them on a video and you're
1:02:27
like, yeah, it's dust. It's whatever. You
1:02:29
know, you don't really notice an
1:02:31
orb with your naked eye and
1:02:34
then see it well enough to go, Hey,
1:02:37
it's red. Yeah. And
1:02:40
other people to go, have you noticed you only
1:02:42
see that red orb up there by the King
1:02:45
ranch suite? Right. Right. I was going to
1:02:47
say that to be associated with
1:02:49
a specific area, like, you know, like,
1:02:52
Oh yeah, this is, this is the red
1:02:54
orb hallway. This is the red orb suite.
1:02:57
Yeah. Yeah. It's strange. But
1:02:59
there is so much activity
1:03:01
in that suite that
1:03:03
it is said that housekeepers will only
1:03:06
go in there in pairs because
1:03:08
of all the ghostly activity. Well,
1:03:12
I mean, you've
1:03:14
got a man's literal death bed.
1:03:16
Yeah. No joke. Still
1:03:19
being used. So
1:03:22
I'm, I'm not surprised. No, not at
1:03:24
all. That that happens
1:03:26
there. Why don't you hang up? I'm also not.
1:03:28
He died in, put them in the closet.
1:03:31
Yeah. I'm not surprised that
1:03:33
he's now standing at the end of the bed
1:03:35
going, why are you in my
1:03:37
bed? Cause it was literally
1:03:40
his bed. Right. It's
1:03:43
just not where his bed was. Right.
1:03:46
His bed. It's not, it wasn't
1:03:48
a typical hotel bed where
1:03:51
a bunch of people stayed on it. That
1:03:53
was his suite that nobody else stayed
1:03:55
in. Right. Yeah. And now
1:03:58
you're sleeping on that bed. That was his. that
1:04:00
he died in and you're shocked
1:04:03
I mean even I might do that if if
1:04:05
I die in bed and somebody gets
1:04:07
my bed I may go like right
1:04:10
in their ear every night down
1:04:14
to go hey yeah
1:04:17
huh how does that crease my
1:04:19
butt made feel does your butt
1:04:21
fit directly into my butt crease is
1:04:24
it nice or is it weird it's kind of
1:04:26
weird is
1:04:28
it weirder than I'm talking to you after death or
1:04:31
that your butt is where my butt was you're
1:04:36
your fascination with but tonight
1:04:38
everybody's got their thing yeah
1:04:42
now the bar has a
1:04:44
few other spirits one
1:04:48
is of a 1970s playboy
1:04:51
as the story goes a couple
1:04:54
was in the bar late one night
1:04:56
the husband was off to one side
1:04:58
waiting for his wife then
1:05:00
a gentleman dressed quite dapperly
1:05:03
entered the bar and began
1:05:05
to walk straight toward the husband's wife
1:05:07
with his playboy style you know the
1:05:11
husband took notice of this man approaching
1:05:13
his wife and intercepted the stranger but
1:05:17
before the husband could say anything
1:05:19
the man vanished right before his
1:05:21
eyes oh wow
1:05:24
yeah so this is vanishing
1:05:26
gentleman as he has been you
1:05:28
have no looking dude walking up yeah and
1:05:31
yeah crushed velour bathrobe
1:05:33
and a pipe looks
1:05:36
like master thespian from Saturday Night Live
1:05:38
you know mustache
1:05:42
mm-hmm comes walking up
1:05:44
how you do it now
1:05:47
the vanishing gentleman was again spotted
1:05:49
at the bar back in July of 2004 a
1:05:51
woman tells of the encounter saying
1:05:56
there was no one in there but us
1:05:59
the bartend And there
1:06:02
was a man wearing a double knit
1:06:04
suit, totally from like 70s. He
1:06:09
was drinking cognac, and
1:06:11
he stared at us, and the bartender never
1:06:13
acknowledged him. But then
1:06:15
he just faded away
1:06:17
right before their eyes. That
1:06:20
would be weird. Yeah, so
1:06:22
they apparently saw him, and either the bartender didn't see
1:06:25
him or was just so used to seeing him that
1:06:27
he was just so used to seeing him. But
1:06:30
he ignored it. Yeah, and
1:06:32
he's just saying, I hope these other people don't
1:06:34
notice him. But other
1:06:37
than the glass, how would they know what he
1:06:39
was drinking? That's what I don't know, unless there
1:06:41
was a spirit of a spirit there.
1:06:44
Oh yeah. A cognac bottle. Yeah.
1:06:46
That's an interesting question. How did they know
1:06:48
he was drinking cognac? Now
1:06:52
I know cognac you put
1:06:54
in a specific type of
1:06:56
glass. Yeah, maybe that was
1:06:58
it. But you could also
1:07:01
put anything you wanted
1:07:03
to in that glass. That's true enough. So
1:07:08
I guess she was just associating it with the glass
1:07:10
he was holding? Yeah. Or
1:07:12
maybe he's like, it's a
1:07:14
great cognac before he disappears.
1:07:16
He said, give me another banana cognac.
1:07:19
Mm-hmm. Now,
1:07:22
the vanishing gentleman isn't the only
1:07:25
spirit known to stir
1:07:27
things up in the bar. It's
1:07:29
reported that one evening, something
1:07:31
threw an ashtray clear across
1:07:33
the bar. Apparently,
1:07:36
a spirit was jealous when a
1:07:39
waitress favored conversation with a living
1:07:41
person over its own
1:07:43
spectral form. Oh,
1:07:45
geez. So now you get jealous
1:07:47
ghosts, and they get so jealous they throw
1:07:49
a deck of ashtray? Yeah.
1:07:52
You know how heavy an ashtray is? Yeah,
1:07:55
I'm going to put you in spirit time out if you don't
1:07:57
settle down. Yeah. This
1:08:00
is not one of those little tin
1:08:02
foil ashtrays. It's
1:08:06
not the one you
1:08:08
had on your end table in college. No,
1:08:10
this is like a big nice glass one.
1:08:13
Just chunk it. If it had hit somebody, it would have killed
1:08:16
them. Now
1:08:19
because of its proximity within
1:08:21
San Antonio, the Menger
1:08:24
Hotel has had its share
1:08:27
of death and
1:08:29
violence, murders
1:08:31
and suicides. And
1:08:34
it seems that a lot of those
1:08:37
restless spirits are still hanging
1:08:39
around the hotel. It's
1:08:42
hard to know why. Maybe they're stuck.
1:08:46
Their residual energy is left to
1:08:48
kind of relive their last moments
1:08:50
over and over again. But
1:08:53
it's extraordinarily active. We've just talked
1:08:55
about a few of the more
1:08:57
well-known spirits. But
1:09:00
the hauntings, the
1:09:03
random sightings, the sounds
1:09:05
and all that stuff, it's
1:09:07
just so common. And
1:09:09
that's why they believe that there are so
1:09:11
many different spirits within
1:09:14
the hotel. Now
1:09:17
in 1890, an Austin insurance agent
1:09:19
showed up at the Menger. And
1:09:22
he entered the bar room where Teddy
1:09:24
Roosevelt's ghost has been seen. So
1:09:28
this gentleman, H.H. Childers, went up
1:09:30
to the bar, removed
1:09:32
his six-shooter from its holster, raised
1:09:36
his arm, aimed, fired
1:09:38
and killed one Jim
1:09:41
Draper, a San
1:09:43
Antonio hackdriver. At
1:09:46
the trial, Childers was sentenced to
1:09:48
25 years. But
1:09:50
on his appeal, the case was reversed
1:09:52
and he was allowed a bond. So
1:09:57
a guy just walks in. another
1:10:00
guy kills him at the bar. Yeah,
1:10:04
in front of people. Yeah, so
1:10:07
that's gonna leave a mark. I
1:10:09
mean it's bound to. Which
1:10:13
it kind of makes me wonder, this
1:10:17
being built
1:10:19
on part of the battlefield of
1:10:21
the Alamo, if
1:10:24
there's just so much energy
1:10:28
right there, just in the
1:10:30
land, that it
1:10:33
somehow pulls these spirits in and
1:10:35
causes them to to be
1:10:39
so active. I
1:10:41
wouldn't be surprised. All
1:10:43
the different apparitions, you
1:10:46
know, apparitions that actually speak,
1:10:50
you know, apparitions so solid
1:10:53
that people think that it's another
1:10:56
person coming to hit on their wife. I
1:10:59
mean, you know. So strong they can
1:11:01
push heavy doors. Right! I
1:11:04
mean it's it's got to have something to
1:11:06
do with it. I mean you just
1:11:09
can't have that much energy there
1:11:13
and wind up with all these hauntings
1:11:15
that seem to be so much stronger
1:11:17
than other hotels that
1:11:19
we've discussed. Right.
1:11:24
Now in 1903, a male and key
1:11:28
clerk was visiting San Antonio. Originally
1:11:31
he was from Kentucky, but at 26
1:11:35
he became quite ill and had been told
1:11:37
that San Antonio might offer him what he
1:11:39
needed, and so the clerk moved.
1:11:42
But he didn't get any better, and the sickness
1:11:44
must have been so bad that seeing no
1:11:47
other option, the clerk went to his room
1:11:49
on the night of Monday,
1:11:51
September 7th 1903, and
1:11:53
he took a knife and slid
1:11:56
his own throat. That's
1:11:59
my birthday. Not
1:12:01
1903, but September. I was
1:12:03
going to say, man, you look really good for your
1:12:05
age. Thanks. I knew
1:12:07
it again. Moisturizer. Yeah. But
1:12:10
like skin routine, like I said, at
1:12:12
the Minger, it seems that death by
1:12:14
murder and suicide have
1:12:17
only fueled more paranormal
1:12:19
activity and
1:12:21
unsuspecting guests have reported seeing
1:12:23
the ghosts of these unfortunate
1:12:25
souls replay the last moment
1:12:27
of their lives before
1:12:30
these onlookers. So
1:12:33
you're, you're actually seeing the
1:12:35
stone tape play out of
1:12:38
somebody suicide. Mm-hmm.
1:12:41
That, that would be so much. I know.
1:12:43
I know. I mean, it's, we've talked about
1:12:45
a place where, uh, you know,
1:12:47
you, you, you'd see, uh, somebody who,
1:12:49
who hanged themselves, you know,
1:12:51
stuff like that. You know, this is what you're,
1:12:53
isn't what you're catching. Yeah.
1:12:56
Now there are other visible entities that
1:12:58
have appeared at the bar as well.
1:13:01
Um, both residual hauntings
1:13:04
and intelligent hauntings. Um,
1:13:08
there is one residual haunting at the
1:13:10
bar. One person claims to have seen
1:13:12
two young boys dressed like,
1:13:14
it says dressed like extras from the set
1:13:16
of newsies. You remember that? Where
1:13:19
the little, the little English caps
1:13:21
and the knickers and everything. Oh
1:13:23
yeah. Yeah. In 20s looking. Yeah.
1:13:25
Um, but
1:13:28
as for intelligent hauntings, it
1:13:30
is said that the keys to the liquor cabinets
1:13:32
have been known to vanish from sight. Um,
1:13:36
sometimes people, when people, when people take
1:13:38
photos in the bar, a little
1:13:40
girl will appear in the background of their
1:13:42
photos. Hmm.
1:13:44
I mean, it's just one
1:13:47
right after another, after another, after
1:13:49
another. If you want to visit
1:13:51
a haunted hotel. Put
1:13:54
the Mingar in San Antonio on your
1:13:56
list. Okay. For sure. If you
1:13:59
spend. If you want to see
1:14:01
Sally then go to
1:14:03
the third floor But if you
1:14:05
want to see any of the other 44 spirits
1:14:08
just go there. Yeah, right It's
1:14:12
apparently sleep on somebody's head Yeah,
1:14:16
yeah, I mean, you know the bar You
1:14:19
know being a part of the original Building,
1:14:22
you know it it it has
1:14:24
a lot of activity But
1:14:28
I mean this place really I
1:14:30
mean that 45 spirits. I mean that's
1:14:33
Almost unheard of wild. Yeah.
1:14:35
Yeah, I'm that's
1:14:38
probably more at One
1:14:40
location and we've talked about Ever.
1:14:44
Yeah, I would say so if not,
1:14:46
it's very close Besides
1:14:49
like the The
1:14:52
Battlegrounds and stuff we've talked about where you
1:14:54
got a ton of people but like one
1:14:56
building. Yeah Yeah, or like these asylums where
1:14:59
there were Thousands of people
1:15:01
there over over the course of the
1:15:03
the years But but yeah for
1:15:05
a hotel to have this meaning it's
1:15:08
really strange. But when you look at all the things
1:15:11
Surrounding that hotel, you know murder
1:15:13
and death you
1:15:16
know suicide and then
1:15:18
on top of it it's on a Battleground
1:15:22
of a of an extraordinarily
1:15:24
bloody battle Yep,
1:15:26
and it was only it was built only 23
1:15:28
years after that so I mean there was a
1:15:30
lot of energy in that ground That
1:15:34
yeah, we're you know Yeah,
1:15:37
it may have still been stained red So,
1:15:43
you know, we've got a lot of
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1:15:49
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1:15:51
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