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I knew I could do more.

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And so it was right then and there that I made

4:03

it my goal my senior year to win a national title,

4:06

meaning of course becoming the fastest in the country.

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4:49

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4:52

I saw an article that came out that posted um

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very briefly an a blip of a sentence. It says

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5:00

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5:02

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No, you're right. He was ranked 462nd at best in the nation

6:10

among the men the year prior.

6:13

Which is why when I read this, I felt relieved

6:15

because I thought the NCAA would

6:17

see it how I saw it. Once I looked up who Will Thomas

6:19

was and saw that by no means was this a lateral

6:22

movement. But that is not how

6:24

the NCAA saw it. They saw nothing wrong

6:26

with this. And so they allowed Leah

6:29

to compete with the women at our national championships.

6:32

That first day we watched as Leah Thomas

6:34

swam to a national title and the 500 freestyle

6:37

beating Olympians. I mean, these aren't scrubs.

6:39

These are the best swimmers in the world. This is the fastest

6:42

meet in the world. Leah beat them

6:44

by body lengths. That

6:46

next day he and I raced in the 200 freestyle to

6:49

which almost impossibly enough

6:52

resulted in a tie. We went

6:54

the exact same time down to the 100th of

6:56

a second. Which shows

6:58

me that God had his hand in this because

7:00

when you're racing for

7:02

over, I mean, a minute and 40 seconds

7:04

and you go the exact same time down to the 100th,

7:07

that's pretty rare. It's where we get

7:09

out of the water. And

7:12

this is what thrusts me into speaking

7:14

out. We get out of the water, we go behind the awards podium

7:17

and the NCAA official looks at both

7:19

Thomas and myself and says, great job, but

7:21

you guys tied. And we only have one

7:24

trophy and we're giving this trophy to

7:26

Leah because Leah has to have it for

7:28

photos. Riley,

7:31

you can pose with this trophy, but you

7:33

have to give yours back. Leah

7:35

takes the trophy home. You go home empty handed, end

7:37

of story.

7:38

And- Whoa, hold on,

7:40

hold on. So this is a part that I did not

7:42

know this. So you guys

7:45

taught, what normally happens in

7:47

the event of a tie at a race

7:49

of that magnitude?

7:50

Yeah, I

7:52

wasn't sure. They now have made a rule

7:55

of what happens in a tie to try and cover their

7:57

butts. This is the only rule that came out of the entire-

10:00

Well, that's right. We weren't told

10:02

we would be sharing a locker room.

10:04

The only way we found out that we

10:06

would be undressing next to a man was

10:08

when we were undressing next to a man. A

10:11

man who is 6'4", 22 years old, fully

10:13

intact with an exposing male genitalia in

10:16

our locker room where we're undressing and

10:18

bare minimum, we weren't told about

10:20

it.

10:21

It felt like betrayal,

10:23

belittlement, and

10:26

really I think the best word to describe this experience

10:29

without over exaggerating is traumatic. Not

10:32

even just traumatic in a sense of what we were

10:34

exposed to, but traumatic in a sense where

10:37

it was so easy for the people who were in place

10:39

to protect us to dismiss

10:41

our rights to privacy as

10:44

if it was so nonchalant. I immediately left

10:46

the locker room when I saw this

10:48

and I went to one of the officials on the pool deck

10:50

and I said, what are the guidelines to

10:53

allow a man into our locker room? I know

10:55

the guidelines for the competition which was measly 12

10:59

months of HRT which is not enough to mitigate

11:02

male advantage.

11:04

I said, what are the guidelines for the locker

11:06

room? He just says,

11:09

so nonchalant. He says, oh, well,

11:11

we actually got around this by making the locker room's unisex.

11:13

Then

11:14

I'm thinking to myself, okay,

11:16

first of all, you just admitted this is a man because

11:19

you have to change your guidelines to

11:21

allow him into our locker room. That right

11:23

there is

11:25

you're proving that you know this is wrong.

11:28

Secondly, unisex,

11:31

any man could walk into our locker room,

11:33

any coach, any official, any pervert who

11:35

wanted to would have had full reigns

11:38

to walk into our locker room at bare minimum.

11:40

We weren't even told about it all to accommodate

11:42

this one man's feelings.

11:46

It was betrayal. So

11:51

I'm curious here and forgive me, I don't

11:53

want to, you know, just stir

11:56

up any traumatic things for you,

11:58

but I'm just curious. demeanor

12:00

during all this because I was in the army for 12 years.

12:03

You know, I didn't play D1

12:05

professional sports,

12:06

but I would imagine that

12:08

the locker room is very similar

12:10

to barracks and things like that

12:12

in the army, right? Like, you know, when you're with

12:14

your same sex, obviously

12:17

people are changing, getting it, you know,

12:19

things and a lot of time people talk, have

12:21

conversations and blah, blah, blah.

12:24

What was his demeanor? Did, what was

12:26

he in there? Like just hanging

12:28

out. Like it was no big deal. Like it was normal.

12:31

What, I mean, I, you know, what, what, yeah,

12:33

I'll kind of set the scene cause it's exactly like you

12:35

said. It's not a place of modesty.

12:38

Um, these suits you put on,

12:40

it takes about 15 minutes to put these

12:42

suits on their, their skin tight. They're, um,

12:46

it's a lot of tucking and poking and

12:48

prodding all of your, your skin into the

12:50

suit. It's miserable, but in those 15 minutes

12:52

where you're putting the suit on, you're fully exposed.

12:55

Um, but it is also a place

12:57

of buzzing and chatter and, and

12:59

laughter. You get to see your friends from all over the country

13:01

who you only get to compete against this one time

13:03

a year.

13:04

Um, so lots of, lots of talking. I had

13:07

my back turned in the locker room

13:09

putting my suit on and

13:11

immediately got silent. And

13:13

so I thought that's weird and I turn around and

13:15

that's when I see this person towering over the

13:18

rest of us. Um, he

13:20

wasn't overtly trying to, to

13:23

be, um, in your face

13:25

about it, but it was still there. It

13:27

was there. It was plain

13:29

as day to see. And that was literally

13:32

yes. And that was the first time we only, we

13:35

became aware this was the arrangement.

13:37

Um, it was sick. It felt like a sick

13:39

joke. It was perverse really. Yeah.

13:43

I would borderline say that, you

13:46

know, like you talked about people,

13:49

people that haven't been in, you

13:51

know, D one sports like you or in

13:53

the military or,

13:55

or situations where you're

13:57

in that situation, you know, some people have never

16:00

So I care about women, but, but, but more importantly,

16:02

I have two daughters, I have a nine year old

16:04

and I have a two month old daughter

16:07

at the house. And so I worry about

16:09

what kind of world are they walking into?

16:12

So, so what led you from that

16:14

moment to decide

16:18

that you needed to be the one

16:20

to start stepping out

16:22

and speaking out against this?

16:24

The realization for me, cause I waited,

16:26

I waited for someone else to do it. Leading

16:30

up to the meet after the meet, I spoke out pretty quickly,

16:32

but leading up to the meet, I thought surely a coach

16:34

would say something.

16:36

Surely some parents somewhere would say something.

16:38

Another swimmer will do it. Someone within

16:40

the NCAA, someone with political power, someone

16:43

who is supposed to be protecting us will protect us.

16:46

And as I continued to see that wasn't

16:48

happening and they were really trying to normalize

16:51

it,

16:51

that's when it slapped me across the face

16:54

in the brief moments on the podium. There's

16:56

a picture and I'm like glaring at, at

16:58

Thomas. And in those

17:00

moments I'm thinking to myself,

17:03

if we as female athletes aren't willing

17:05

to stick up for ourselves, we as women aren't

17:07

willing to stick up for ourselves,

17:09

we shouldn't expect anyone to. This has

17:12

to come from us. If we want to change,

17:14

we need to voice it. Because

17:16

I saw the tears. I saw the tears from the girls

17:18

who placed ninth and 17th at that meet and missed

17:21

out on being named an All American by one place

17:23

and the parents, the mothers watching their

17:25

daughters be sidelined. I saw those tears. And

17:27

I felt the extreme discomfort in the locker room from

17:30

every girl. And I heard the

17:32

whispers and the grumbles of anger

17:34

and

17:35

frustration from these girls who just like

17:37

myself had worked their entire lives to get

17:39

to this meet.

17:40

And so I think seeing that, seeing

17:42

how it affected all of us, not just Republicans,

17:45

not just, I mean, all of us at that meet.

17:48

Oh, absolutely. And we felt silence and we

17:50

effectively were silenced. That's why it seems

17:53

as if I have been this lone voice fighting

17:55

for women until recently. It's because the

17:58

silencing worked.

17:59

universities and these institutions and the media

18:02

and corporate America and all these different

18:05

realms,

18:06

um, the silencing that they're implementing

18:09

is effective. Yeah,

18:11

no, no, I agree. We could

18:14

go round and round about why I think that is.

18:16

I think that in America,

18:18

the entire LGBTQ community,

18:21

I think 1.3% actually identify as trans and

18:26

to have such a tiny,

18:28

tiny microscopic amount of the population

18:31

seemingly taking over right

18:33

now. I mean, everywhere

18:36

you go, everything

18:38

you see, every business

18:40

you walk into, every social media

18:42

feed, every ad that pops up on

18:44

YouTube. I,

18:45

we took our children to go see a

18:48

movie the other day and, uh, the,

18:51

the, I think it's called new V like

18:53

the little thing that plays before the previews.

18:55

And it's like queer, this pride

18:58

month, this and blah, blah. I'm like, man, we're, we're

19:00

here for a kid show

19:01

and like, we're in the theater now and now they've

19:04

seen it. And so now we've got to have these

19:06

awkward conversations going home.

19:08

Let's fast forward just a little bit. You end up linking

19:11

up with turning point USA and you're

19:13

going to go around and you're going to do some speaking

19:15

of vets. And, uh, I

19:17

saw all the video and I shared

19:20

it. Uh, you know, the whole world shared it. I feel

19:22

like, I feel like, uh, you went

19:24

to what university was it in that,

19:26

that, that, that they pretty much attacked

19:29

and cornered you,

19:30

uh, just for being there.

19:32

San Francisco state university. Okay.

19:34

So walk us through that. What happened? Absolutely.

19:37

So I,

19:38

first of all, it's been a priority of mine to

19:41

get on college campuses and to, because

19:43

I just came from a university. I know the direction

19:46

they're going, um, and how they're

19:48

kind of politicizing these issues in a way that,

19:50

that aren't indicative of, of what the

19:52

general public really thinks surrounding this.

19:55

And so I felt, I feel it important to, to

19:58

share this story.

21:59

I can be and so she applauded those

22:02

students for handling me that way.

22:05

Yeah, it's a dangerous world that we

22:07

live in when dialogue

22:10

and debate are dangerous

22:13

or considered to be dangerous because

22:16

then what you just have is you have indoctrination

22:19

and when you have indoctrination you have

22:21

chaos

22:22

as you're seeing. I

22:24

have been in your shoes many times at

22:26

D1 universities delivering

22:30

commentary on topics that

22:33

I know that

22:34

it's just been

22:37

to Kentucky but honestly

22:40

till to this day I tell everybody the story.

22:42

The University of Florida

22:44

was by far one

22:46

of the worst experiences I've ever had.

22:48

I was with Charlie Kurt there. I was

22:50

doing a turning point stop

22:52

and we literally felt

22:55

so much weight and

22:57

almost like this heaviness

23:02

in the back room where we were sitting that we

23:05

literally prayed before we went out there

23:08

because we just knew

23:09

that there

23:12

was evil out there

23:14

in this thing. I'd

23:16

love to get your views but I don't know where

23:19

you personally stand spiritually.

23:21

I'd love to hear that in just a second but I

23:24

truly believe that

23:25

this is a good and evil

23:27

thing that we're fighting against right now. 100% and so

23:30

this attack

23:33

against women in

23:35

the same vein of the LGBTQ

23:38

community also now going after

23:40

our children, the

23:43

military we call it going after the

23:45

soft targets, the easy targets

23:48

and it truly

23:50

is a battle of good and evil that we're facing

23:52

right now. What are your thoughts on that?

23:53

No doubt. It's

23:56

no longer right versus wrong. It is moral

23:58

versus evil and I look that evil.

23:59

in the eyes, just like you said, you felt it, right?

24:02

I looked that evil in the eyes in San Francisco

24:05

and it's soulless, it's hateful,

24:07

it's violent, it's vengeful, and they

24:09

do it in the name of love, and they do it in

24:11

the name of acceptance and tolerance and all

24:13

of these terms,

24:15

but make no mistake,

24:18

that is not love. We have

24:20

a God of love, of course we have a God of love

24:22

who loves all, but we also have a God who hates

24:24

sin. And our God

24:27

made man and woman, and our God doesn't make mistakes. This

24:29

is entirely spiritual. What

24:32

I also think it is, is really the way they're

24:35

trying to break down faith and the way they're

24:37

trying to break down family and break down freedoms

24:39

and changing the language we use, the

24:42

denying of truth, the silencing, as you

24:45

mentioned, going for the vulnerable populations. I mean,

24:47

it's Marxism, textbook Marxism.

24:50

And the administration that we have leading our country

24:53

is actively leading us in this direction,

24:56

which is chilling.

24:57

I wish people could see it, and sometimes

25:00

unfortunately, even for myself, I had

25:02

to be directly impacted before I was able

25:04

to effectively see it for what it is.

25:07

At first when it happened, I thought it was just women's sports.

25:10

Oh my gosh, that was so silly

25:12

to think. It's women's prisons, it's sororities,

25:15

it's the education system, it's the media, it's

25:17

corporate America. I mean, there are so many different

25:19

realms of our society

25:22

that are being infiltrated

25:24

with, I

25:28

don't even know a good word for it. Just infringing

25:30

upon our basic rights as humans. You

25:33

talk to anyone from a country

25:36

that has seen this before,

25:39

North Korea, China, Germany, Brazil,

25:42

Russia, there's tons of them out there,

25:45

and they will tell you that we are in the beginning

25:47

steps, and it's a slippery slope.

25:49

It's only a matter of time before

25:53

this gets out of hand. It's a downward spiral,

25:55

and we are going down it, which is why it's

25:57

crucial we get someone in the White House.

25:59

who is willing to put

26:02

America back on track, willing

26:04

to say enough is enough. Like,

26:06

like we as Americans feel. Yeah.

26:10

Yeah. No, I agree. I think

26:12

one of the biggest phrases

26:15

that people have right now and

26:17

you and do you currently are

26:19

you still in Kentucky or is that just where you went to school?

26:21

Just where I went to school. I'm from Nashville. Oh,

26:24

okay. So south. No, neither. So

26:27

born and raised south here. And so

26:29

the biggest thing I deal with a lot

26:31

with southern

26:33

people in general

26:36

is, you know, they see it, they hear it, but

26:38

they say the phrase. Well, you know

26:40

that that doesn't happen here.

26:42

And and the thing that I, you know,

26:45

screaming at people is like,

26:47

no, it is happening here.

26:49

It's it's been happening here. You've

26:52

just ignored it because you you you

26:54

are a Christian conservative. You

26:56

keep your head down, you go to work, you

26:59

mind your own business. But yet your

27:01

kids are watching tick tock and they're seeing

27:03

the Dylan Mulvaney's and they're seeing the, uh,

27:06

you know, will Thomas, but Leah Thomas is out

27:08

there. They're seeing all of these things.

27:11

And I mean, literally a year,

27:14

year and a half ago, there was that San

27:16

Francisco gay men's choir that

27:18

sang the song, you know, will convert your children. Like

27:21

literally, and it's still on YouTube to this

27:24

day because YouTube doesn't

27:26

deem that offensive that

27:28

these grown men are singing a

27:30

song in unison about

27:32

converting people's children and turning

27:35

them into an ally for them

27:37

against their parents. I mean,

27:39

it is, it is truly an evil place

27:42

that we live in. So correct

27:44

me if I'm wrong, but you, you are married, correct? I am married.

27:46

Yes. Okay.

27:48

So it's really not Riley gains. Is

27:50

it, or is that your, that's your married name? No,

27:53

my, my new last name, actually we've been married for over a

27:55

year. Um, it just happened. Okay. Awesome. It happened

27:57

at such a time where. Um,

28:00

I,

28:01

he actually proposed to me the day after

28:03

Leah Thomas and I raced. And so

28:06

I kind of became this, this

28:08

more well-known person as Riley

28:10

Gaines. Um, but my new last name is Barker.

28:14

Okay. All right. Well, congratulations

28:16

on that. That's amazing. Um,

28:18

what does your husband think

28:20

about all of this stuff? I mean, I'm

28:22

just curious cause I'm trying to think about my, my wife

28:25

or, or my daughters. If I was in

28:27

a position like that one, what does your

28:29

dad think to what is your husband thing?

28:32

My husband swam at Kentucky as well.

28:35

Um, oh wow.

28:36

Okay. So he most certainly knows the differences

28:39

between men and women. I was effectively a better

28:41

swimmer than him in terms of, um,

28:44

achievements and rankings, but even

28:46

being a better swimmer than him, he could kick

28:48

my butt any day of the week.

28:50

Um, easily, right? I mean,

28:52

we know this. And so he of course understands

28:54

and I'm so fortunate to have

28:57

such a strong support system, whether

28:59

that's my family, whether it's my faith, my husband,

29:01

my friends. Um, I'm very blessed.

29:04

Um,

29:05

he's, he's my rock. A lot of the times,

29:07

like when I come home at night, he's,

29:10

you can kind of escape all of this stuff by,

29:12

by being and talking with him and kind

29:15

of clearing your mind of it. I'm very

29:17

fortunate. But my dad, um, my

29:19

dad played in the sec. He went

29:21

to the NFL, um, for awhile.

29:24

And so my dad also played sports.

29:26

Um,

29:28

I think for a dad to know his

29:30

daughter had to undress in front

29:33

of a naked male and no one did

29:35

anything about it. Um, I can't

29:37

even think about it. I can't even think

29:39

about it. I remember calling my

29:41

dad and again, we had no idea until we

29:43

saw it. And so I called my dad after I was in this changing

29:46

space with Thomas and I said, dad,

29:48

we just had to undress in front of him.

29:50

And we didn't know.

29:51

Um, and he said, Riley, I'm coming down there and

29:54

I'm going to handle this myself. And I said,

29:56

dad, I love you. I don't want

29:58

you behind bars. that you can do that.

30:01

Um, but that, that's been really hard

30:04

for my dad. Um,

30:06

I'm very fortunate that again, they're

30:08

supportive. Um,

30:12

I just, I think a firm family foundation

30:14

is a big piece in my leadership and

30:17

my confidence to take the arrows that

30:19

I take the security that I have. Um,

30:22

so I'm lucky.

30:25

So I like how you said that taking the arrows

30:27

is a term I use a lot. Um,

30:29

you know, I feel like, uh, I'm getting

30:32

older now. And so I'm starting to feel like

30:34

the elder in the group of all these people

30:36

that

30:37

speak out all the time. But you know, we've been taking

30:39

arrows for a long time. And,

30:40

and even though it was such

30:43

a horrible thing that had to happen to

30:45

you that is still happening

30:47

to, as you put it, let you see

30:50

how bad it's really gotten. But

30:52

you know, I believe everything happens for a reason,

30:54

no matter how traumatic it may have been to lead

30:56

to that point.

30:58

Um, it has turned you into a

31:00

person that is now willing to take the arrows

31:03

for truth. And I think that that's

31:05

a very powerful thing. Um, what

31:08

does the future look like for

31:10

you? I imagine it started very

31:12

much like you wanted to attack what was going

31:14

on in the women's sports,

31:16

but now, as you said, your eyes have been

31:18

open more to where it's, it's beyond

31:20

just that. What, what, what

31:23

is the ultimate goal for you

31:25

moving forward? It's

31:27

hard to envision myself in five years

31:30

because when I think of this battle, I don't think of

31:32

where I'm putting myself. Um,

31:35

I think of where's the mission in five

31:37

years. Where's this fight? I'm wherever

31:39

this fight is at this point. Um, I

31:41

graduated with my degree in human health sciences

31:44

and health law, um,

31:45

scored in the top percentile of

31:47

the dental admissions tests. And I was going to dental

31:49

school. Um,

31:51

that I'm clearly not working on teeth that,

31:54

that my, my life plans. I've

31:56

realized the quickest way to make God laugh in your

31:59

face is to make

31:59

plans for yourself.

32:01

And so those have been entirely

32:03

redirected. And I've realized

32:06

just how passionate I am about this and what

32:08

a disservice it would be, not just

32:10

to myself, not just

32:12

to the present athletes who are dealing with this, the

32:14

past athletes who fought for Title IX. And

32:16

of course, that next generation of athletes, of

32:18

women who don't yet understand

32:21

the implications this has, and they don't yet have

32:23

a voice. And so I'm fighting for them. And

32:27

that's what I'm going to continue doing this week.

32:29

Actually, tomorrow I have to go to DC for a Senate

32:31

Judiciary hearing surrounding these

32:33

issues, continuing

32:35

to talk about it, continuing to testify, create,

32:39

and help legislators make laws

32:41

surrounding this. At the state level, the federal level,

32:43

not just in sports, as you mentioned, a big piece

32:46

I've taken on is the Women's Bill

32:48

of Rights, which is a bill that

32:50

defines the word woman. And

32:52

this past year, we worked with legislators to

32:55

create this model legislation. It was passed in

32:58

Kansas and my home state of Tennessee. And

33:01

now there's an executive order in Oklahoma. Debbie

33:03

Lusco and Diana Harshberger have taken it on at

33:05

the federal level.

33:08

Anything I can do to enact change

33:10

and shed light on the lunacy

33:13

behind this and the broader picture of what

33:15

it means and what's at stake if we don't

33:18

fight for this, that's what I'll be doing. And that's

33:20

what

33:21

my future looks like.

33:23

I love it. I love it. Like I said, I applaud

33:26

what you're doing. I think it's fantastic.

33:28

You've got a friend in us over here

33:31

at Dear America and anything that we can

33:33

do to help you in your

33:34

mission. Like I said, everything

33:37

happens for a reason.

33:38

And I think that you are

33:41

and will continue to be a mighty warrior

33:43

in this battle that you're

33:45

fighting. Riley, where can people go

33:48

to support you? Where can they go to

33:50

find you?

33:51

Absolutely. My Twitter is Riley underscore

33:53

gains underscore.

33:55

I always try and post breaking stories,

33:58

highlighting how are responding

34:00

whether that's politicians whether it's good or bad

34:03

just so people don't believe the narrative that

34:06

it's a non-issue like the left loves to

34:08

push they say it's not happening or you

34:10

know why are we creating to a solution

34:13

to a problem that doesn't exist it's just middle

34:15

school women's basketball who cares that

34:18

couldn't be further from the truth it's happening

34:21

all levels all states all divisions

34:23

all sports all across the country

34:26

I get messages all the time and just like you said

34:28

how people say it's not happening here I gotten

34:31

maybe four messages in the past two days

34:33

from girls in Tennessee who are

34:35

changing in a YMCA locker room or

34:38

some space with a man it's disgusting

34:40

it's happening all over so just

34:43

highlighting those things it's Riley underscore gains

34:45

underscore

34:47

all right well Riley you know like

34:49

I said everybody go follow her right now

34:52

Riley anything we can do for you you just

34:54

let us know and you've already

34:56

you've always got a voice on this show you've

34:58

always got a friend in us here ladies

35:00

and gentlemen that's all we have for this episode

35:03

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35:05

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