If you'd like to listen to the whole discussion between Ezra Klein and Nicholas Carr (I'd very much recommend it, a fascinating chat) that you can do that here: https://www.vox.com/podcasts/2020/7/1/21308153/the-ezra-klein-show-the-shallows-twitter-facebook-attention-deep-reading-thinking
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