Even while touring, performing and being on TV as a 'rock star' in the 1970s, Les was already thinking about the future and where he would go next in life. While working on his re-invention after the end of Hush, Les discovered that being in a successful Australian band in the 70s didn't open as many doors as one would expect; he would need to carve out his own path for the next phase of his life.

In Part 3 of Peter and Les's conversation, they look at Les's re-invention as a successful and award-winning sound and brand designer, including his work at founding music and sound design business Song Zu. It is a story that is equal parts about music and about one's own power to create personal change; a story that is just as relevant for today.

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