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Music.

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Welcome back to another episode of Fringe Beyond Limits.

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I am Frank. I am Brie. And this is Lynette.

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Hi, guys. Hello. How's everybody out there today? I'm out there.

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That's about it for me. What about you guys?

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I am ready for vacation. Oh, yeah. Where are you going? I'm going to Key West. Nice.

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That's where the weird comes out after the sun sets. Pretty much.

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That's where Robert the Doll's at. Oh.

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Yeah, are you going to go see it? No, Brian's being a weenie. Just leave him behind.

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So wait a minute. So you're going to go to Key West. We made the reservations to do the tour with Robert the Doll and everything.

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We have an experience with him and stuff like that. Brian was like, oh, I want to watch a documentary about it so I know what I'm

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going to be experiencing. And I'm like, all right, we watched a documentary.

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First thing he says to me, he's like, do not take pictures. I'm like,

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that's fine. I won't take a picture. Why? What do the pictures do? If you don't ask permission to take a picture,

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then he basically comes and... You should take a picture.

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But you have to ask permission. I can still take pictures. You just got to make

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sure you're like, hey, Robert, can I take a picture of you? And I take a picture. If you don't say that, then bad things happen. Don't ask permission.

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You need to test this theory. three take brian's phone and

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just take a picture you need

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to try the social experience but i guess there's like five rules

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to see in robert like you do the rule number one greet

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introduce yourself rule number two be

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respectful for number three ask for permission to

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take a picture rule number four say goodbye what's the

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fifth one i said four i thought you said five i

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might four if i said five minutes before did brian create these

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rules or did no this was on the documentary about it and i

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guess like a lot of people that don't follow these rules whether it's one rule all

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of them they end up like bad things happen coincidentally after and they've

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been i guess they get like over a thousand letters a year apologize since robert

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wow yeah i still think you need to try it out the funny part about it's like

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after a week the more brian thought about it he comes up to me he's He's like,

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I don't want to go anymore. I'm too paranoid. He's such a weenie.

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Like, seriously. Like, how did you marry such a bitch?

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I don't know. I always joke around and say that I'm the man in the relationship,

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so I don't know. I think you are. Well, that's because you use a strap on. No, but I guess. That's besides the

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marriage. You need to go in there. You know? I mean, obviously. Obviously.

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Can you just surprise, like, hey, we're going to go to this restaurant,

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and then just pop over and visit Brian?

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I still think you should ambush him. I agree. Yeah.

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I'll try my best. That's a lie. That's a lie. He won't know we're planning this

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until when he hears it, which it won't be until who knows.

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You're not even going to try to do this. You're just doing this to appease us

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so we stop making fun of you. No. Mm-hmm. I'll think about it. It's just, if I have the guts, do it.

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Do it. Do it. Peer pressure is a bitch.

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Peer pressure is a bitch. Hey, to all of our ones of listeners,

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send Brianna, that's B-R-E-A-N-N-A, at fringebeyondlimbs.com,

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emails saying that she should ambush her husband into going seeing Robert Adol.

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Flood her email box like he floods her box. Oh my God. Go there anyways.

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So, Lynette, you're off to somewhere soon as well, right? Yeah,

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I got a European trip coming up. No, European. No, European.

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Who's peeing? We all are. You are. All right, so you have a European trip?

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Yep, with my husband, my mother, and my mother-in-law.

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That's unique. Yeah. So both mothers.

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Are you going to go see fairies and unicorns? I should. mom

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we're gonna go visit some fairy circles

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yeah are you going to

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ireland i am going to scotland for a

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quick quick turnaround trip there all right flying up to scotland to catch the

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taylor swift concert i swear to god dude it was cheaper to get on a plane fly

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across the pond get on another plane to fly up to Scotland, get a hotel,

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rent a car, go to her show, than to watch her here in Chicago.

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Ridiculous. That's sad. Yeah. Listen, I am terrified. Taylor.

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Of the cult she has created. Oh, she has. The Swifties.

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Listen, if they ever got their shit together and then finally turn 18,

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they will take over this country. Mm-hmm.

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And I will have to listen to Taylor Swift.

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Or National Anthem will be a Taylor Swift song. I won't complain I will,

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I have nothing against I think she's a great human being I mean she does There's

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nothing but great stories about her Which is so Not heard of Right,

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I have no animosity Towards her whatsoever And her music is fine It's the fans

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That I have the issues with Because they're all crazy Yeah.

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Well, you asked a crazy fan to join your cast. I didn't know that.

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You keep learning new things about me today. I know. Yeah. I'm going to.

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You're off. You're out. Sorry. Okay. Sorry. Peace out.

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All right. Well, that's great. So I don't have anything planned.

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I will be twiddling my thumbs at home with my dogs.

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That sounds fun. Yeah. Well, me and my dog will have thumb wars. Do you think, Eileen?

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Probably not. Yeah. Yeah, my vote's on the dogs. Yeah.

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Opposable thumbs or no. I really hate you guys.

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You're welcome. All right. So we do have an article again this week.

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So let me jump in. I'm going to read you guys the headline.

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Residents left horrified after quote unquote diaper spa where adults can role

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play as babies opens in their town.

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What do you think this is about, guys? It's got to be somewhere down in the south. Do you think they have onesies? I hope so.

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If they have onesies, I am definitely going wherever this is,

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and I am going to be a baby for a day. Gross.

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I'm getting the visual of that Rugrats episode where Tommy's dad,

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doesn't he like dress up? Okay. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah. Tommy's dad. I am Rugrats. He was after my time.

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That's okay. You're old. But yeah, like his dad dressed up in a diaper.

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I think, like, his dad, like, fell or something hit his head and he thought he was a baby. Yeah.

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All right. Well, I mean, you know, that's great.

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Weird, but. You're the one who's volunteering to go visit a diaper spa.

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Only if they have onesies. Oh, okay. No. With the butt flap? Butt flap.

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Yeah. How else am I going to deuce? I don't know. Do they make onesies with

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butt flaps these days? I have no idea. I. I thought you had a closet full.

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It's not what I have a closet full of. Yeah. What, do you have a closet, Paul? Well, if it was in my closet, then you would know.

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I don't want people to know what's in my closet. Aren't you in your closet?

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Yeah, most of the time I am. I'm in there hanging out and watching Dave Matthews. Okay. He's sexy.

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He's definitely not going to call you back now that you told him that. Yep.

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You know, you don't know. He might put a restraining order on you now.

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For what? I have not done anything. Yet. Well, you can't. Or that we know of. You can't get a restraining order

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on what may happen. It's not how it works.

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Sounds like our system's broken. A little bit.

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Anyway. The controversial establishment has been opened up in Atkinson,

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New Hampshire, and local residents aren't happy.

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That's because it isn't your usual spa, but one that aims to pamper all diaper

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lovers. See what they did there? Pamper. Pamper, you get it? Yep. By that, they don't mean babies,

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but those over the age of 21 who are evidently into that kind of thing.

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Its website reads, the Diaper Spa is here to serve all diaper-wearing individuals

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who seek acceptance, respite, and care.

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We embrace 21-plus-year-old individuals from all races, genders,

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sexual persuasions, and preferences.

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We celebrate the genuine you. we are

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lgbtqia plus plus

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friendly and affirming we are trauma informed

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only guests over 21 years old can consent and receive our very elite one-on-one

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care set up by physician dr colin murphy she says the spa was created to serve

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all diaper wearing individuals who seek acceptance acceptance, respite, and care.

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Yeah, go ahead. So is this for people who wear diapers because of incontinence?

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Or is this people who wear diapers because they like to role play or something?

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Maybe they just aren't incontinent and they're just comfy with...

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Right. But I'm curious when they say one-on-one care.

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Yeah, that caught my ears too. Yeah, that kind of leads me down a role-playing for sexy time.

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So I'm wondering if someone actually changes your diaper for you.

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If it's one-on-one care. Right. Agreed. I don't know if I want someone changing my own diaper.

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And what else is on the agenda besides just wiping my ass?

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You know what I mean? Like, this sounds really weird. So I'll continue.

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The spa office services, such as ABDL, which stands for Adult Baby Diaper Lugging.

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There's an acronym for everything these days. 100%.

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So ABDL, nursery spa care. Virtual playdates with a doctor, as well as therapeutic

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support and life coaching. I am intrigued.

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That doctor thing sounds... very sexual

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very across the line virtual play dates right okay

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so service price starts at a

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hundred dollars with the diaper spa charging and

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eye watering fifteen hundred dollars for a 24-hour stay at its b&b atkinson

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residents aren't happy about the new facility and have set up a petition calling

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for the town to reject any business and zoning licenses and applications for this business,

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Created by Kayla Gallagher on 28th of January, part of the petition's description reads,

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We, a concerned residents of Atkinson, are writing this petition to urgently

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bring to your attention serious issues surrounding the operation of the diaper

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spa located at 23 Pope Road,

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Atkinson, New Hampshire, 03811.

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As residents and patrons of this community, we feel compelled to voice our collective

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concern and dissatisfaction regarding potential incidents that pose a threat

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to the safety and well-being of our community members,

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particularly our children. So question, I understand why they threw children in there because you have

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to save the children and that just tugs. But if this place is a 21 and over facility, what difference would it make than

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the bar being there in terms of its effect on children?

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It must be very conservative, but it's New Hampshire. Yeah. I mean,

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isn't that where Bernie's from? I thought he's, I don't know. I think so, yeah. Yeah, isn't Bernie the independent

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from New Hampshire? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

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So the, I could understand if they thought this was like a brothel or something

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like that, that they would be concerned in not letting them open.

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But I just think it's so silly that, uh,

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That they would be upset about this. I mean, how much business can this place really make?

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There's obviously a need for it. Or a calling for it. I mean,

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is there a hub of diaper-wearing adults in New Hampshire that we don't know about?

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If you know about diaper-wearing adults, please reach out to Frank at FrenchVianLimits.com.

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Or if you are a diaper-wearing adult.

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Yeah, reach out to me. I would like pictures, videos, whatever you got. Send them on over.

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I don't know. I'm still hung up on this New Hampshire thing, though. I know you're asking a question, but I'm still on this New Hampshire thing.

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Only because I have a side story about New Hampshire.

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I was driving through New Hampshire once and there was a mattress on the side

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of the road. Was it really just a big diaper? With a sign that said, free mattress, kind of clean. So it was a used diaper.

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I'm just saying that maybe you need to go to New Hampshire. It sounds weirder than Key West.

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Okay. Okay, so despite the way it sounds, Dr. Murphy has insisted that the spa

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doesn't cater to people with fetishes, but aims to help those looking to process any trauma.

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It helps them process whatever trauma it is, Murphy told WHDH7 News.

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A lot of times it's childhood trauma when they were in diapers or just getting

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out of diapers, and they want to feel that safety that they had before that.

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That's weird. And yeah, that's the end of the article.

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Cold uh just kind of an abrupt end with

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you know with a lot of

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ways just not satisfying at all yeah so what do you guys think they have a screening

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process to see if you're just curious and you want to have your diaper changed

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or if you actually have trauma find their website yeah that's that's what i'm

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going to right now i want i found a website but didn't really give like too

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much info that's just crazy yeah so hold on i'm looking it up right now my laptop

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loves to move slow today guys so this is going to be great for the podcast so there is no website.

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So i wonder if this place just hasn't opened yet oh yeah here the diaper spa

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the diaper spa.com Really? Yeah.

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Diaper spot. Yeah. The diaper spot. There's really not much on the website.

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And I just found another article that says the owner of this place has been reprimanded.

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What do you mean reprimanded? I'm trying to get this pulled in.

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It just says that there is a cease and desist order against the woman behind

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this moment. So it might not...

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I'm on the website and here we go. So I'm under services.

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They have a services section that says no services are available to residents of or in New Hampshire.

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Sure what so they want to protect

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their children but they're going to call in out-of-staters to

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come use their one well no so right now all the service they have are via phone

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call so the so the first one 30 minute free discovery call we would love to

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connect with you and discuss your specific needs and questions regarding the

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diaper spa and services live telephone call one hour or contact to discuss.

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Experience a personalized professional live telephone call.

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There's also a texting service and a coaching and support service.

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That's so weird. This is very weird.

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Yeah, so. Well, next time in your New Hampshire. Yeah, go to diaperspot.com

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and you'll be able to go get your diaper changed for free.

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Tell them to use code FRINGEBEYONDLIMITS.

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All right, so. Diapers. yeah i do

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not want to change any fringy diapers that's horrible

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oh gosh all right well

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that was interesting that was that was a great great way to start

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off this episode what do we uh what are we talking about today guys what do

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we got going on we got the beast of bray road bray road what is the beast of

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bray road is that is that like a cryptid some say a cryptid i mean and some it's just like,

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Is it a werewolf? It could be a werewolf or I think the other term is... Dog man? Dog man, yeah.

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That some people use as well. Is that like Randy Jackson? Yeah.

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Dog man? Yep. Dog man? Yeah. No? All right.

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So, yeah. So, today we'll be talking about the Beast of Bray Road.

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It's actually not too far from where we live in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.

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I would say it's maybe two hours.

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I don't think it's that far at all from us. You know, it's funny about people in the Midwest.

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We don't use miles as it's always time.

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It's like, oh, you know, how far is so-and-so from you? Oh, you know,

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he lives about 45 minutes away from me. Yeah, it's not 30 miles.

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Why do we do that? It's because it's flat out here and everyone's just straight line.

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No i i i actually prefer miles

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no i prefer time yeah because i

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would rather know how much time i'm gonna have to spend in the car opposed to

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how many miles because i don't care how many miles i have to drive yeah because

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sometimes like too like there can be like depending on the speed limit or if

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there's traffic you can times either going to go lower or higher depending but

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the miles still They'll stay the same. Yeah. And like when you're driving in California, they go by miles because their

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traffic is trash and you can go two miles and it might take you two hours.

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Really? Yeah. Is it really that bad? On some of those freeways out there,

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it's five, six lanes wide and it's bumper to bumper four miles.

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You think Chicago traffic is bad. That's worse. Like honestly,

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I don't understand how there are more shootings out there with that kind of traffic.

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How there aren't? You're right. Oh, well, they're very liberal out there.

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Are they? Oh, yeah. Like, how liberal?

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How do you quantify it? I don't know. That's why I'm asking you.

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They have a whole bunch of propositions to make sure. Well, I mean,

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think about it. You can smoke weed out there. They're very LGBTQ friendly.

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Well, I mean, all that stuff should be, in my opinion, everywhere.

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You know, we should be open to those ideas. Like they're not very,

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well, I shouldn't speak for the whole state, but I have family out there and everything.

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Thing and they're not terribly religious driven or

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what sort i'm looking for conservative as far

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as that goes yeah okay oh i just i've never been i haven't experienced too many

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california things so uh yeah i just didn't know that stuff california all right

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california knows how to party I was thinking,

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you know, the theme song to the LC TV show.

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California party in the city. Okay, Frank.

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City of Chicago. Oh my goodness. All right. Anyway. All right,

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back to the Beast of Bray Road. Beast of Bray.

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It's a road outside of Elkhorn, Wisconsin, known as Bray Road.

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It's home to a dog man cryptid called the Beast of Bray Road.

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Residents have been reporting sightings of the beast in Elkhorn area for decades.

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The earliest sighting of the beast dates back to the 1930s, but it wasn't until

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Linda Godfrey, author of the book, The Beast of Bray Road.

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Tailing Wisconsin's werewolf, began investigating the claims that the world

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learned about the notorious Wisconsin werewolf.

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So see, right off the bat, I'm confused.

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So it calls it a dog man cryptid but then

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in the title of her book she

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calls it wisconsin's werewolf so to

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me the difference to me is a cryptid is an actual animal like that's what it

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is you know like a bigfoot's a bigfoot you know whatever other cryptids are

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there i don't know but like so it's always going to be a dog man when you say

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werewolf that means it's a man that that turns into a wolf.

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You know what I mean? So. More like a shapeshifter.

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Sure. Well. I mean, yeah. I mean. In a way, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, you know.

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So, but my point being is that, what is it now? Is it a werewolf or is it a cryptid?

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You know, is it always, does it always look like a dog man? Yeah.

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That's a good question. I'm just wondering if it was just a catchier title. No, maybe.

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Maybe just a way to sell. I'm just wondering if she just put it in for the title,

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yeah. Just to sell more books. Yeah. Because a lot of articles about the Beasts of Braywood goes back to Dogman.

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They always mention Dogman more than they do Werewolf.

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Yeah. All right. It was published in 2015, so I don't know when the term cryptid got coined.

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Pretty sure it's been coined before. Prior to that, yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, just because, you know, we always talk about Loch Ness Monster,

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talk about there's different Sasquatches out there, so like the ape.

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Yeah, Yeti, Skunk Man. Yeah, Skunk Man is what I was looking for.

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All right, so witnesses who have allegedly encountered the Beast of Ray Rowe

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describe it as tall and hairy, with glowing eyes, long claws,

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and the stench of rotting meat. You know, everything but the hairy part kind of reminds me of me.

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You? I was going to say that. I'm glad you realized that. I'm very self-aware. So we're actually doing an

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episode on Frank today. Oh, interesting. This is Wisconsin's version of Frank. You need to trim your toenails. I do.

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Some people believe it is a werewolf, others that it is a Bigfoot,

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and others believe it is an unidentified species.

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Those who have seen the beast describe him as eating, hunting,

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scavenging, though it has never attacked anyone. One witness's claim,

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it has acted aggressively running at them and jumping on their vehicles.

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I would be freaked out. Yeah. So if you're driving down this country road and

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you come upon the beast and he runs at you and jumps on the hood of your car,

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what's the first thing you guys do? Slam on my brakes, scream, and I have no clue what I would do after that.

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Probably end up hitting a tree because I get so freaked out.

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I'd probably cry. I'd probably pull over and I'd probably go check on it.

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Because I'd probably think it was a deer.

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So never riding with Lynette as the driver again.

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What would you do? I would assume that it's like most animals out there that he's presenting for me.

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And I would have to softly turn him down and be like, I am married.

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And I'd show him my ring and give him a handkerchief so he can cry himself to sleep that night.

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Burning their hopes and dreams. Pretty much, yeah. Sad wolf.

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Sad, yeah, sad wolf face. Beast wolf face. Sad man. Sad, brave beast wolf face.

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So the Beast of Bray Road's reputation as a cryptid has drawn comparisons to

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other infamous creatures such as Chupacabra or the Dogman.

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Cryptozoologist researchers who study hidden or undiscovered animals have taken

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a particular interest in this elusive creature.

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They investigate reported sightings, gather witness testimonies,

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and attempt to uncover evidence that may shed light on the creature's existence.

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I have a question.

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I may have an answer. so it says

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that cryptozoologists i'm sorry

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it says that yeah cryptozoological researchers who study hidden or undiscovered

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animals how do you study an undiscovered animal by other people's stories and

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what they think evidence that they caught and the pictures they think they could

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have but what are you studying probably to see like the similarities between each stories.

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Okay. That's the only thing I can think of. And they put all the research together

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and say these are everything that everyone's saying. It's the same.

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Do you ever wonder how these cryptozoologists, researchers get paid? Who pays them?

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I don't know if they do get paid. So is this like a hobby for them?

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I would think so. I want to just make up my own title and just be like,

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you know what, guys? I'm FBI.

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I don't think you can just claim that sort of title. No, I can't.

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I'm a female body inspector. Knew you were going there. So that's what I do. So there should be a line.

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I have an unlicensed practice out of my house where I can give you my services. Oh, yeah.

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What do you guys think? Do you guys want to? I can tell you a lot about yourselves. Oh, no, I'm good.

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All right. So there goes my business idea. So here's the. The average cryptozoologist's

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salary is about $71K, $72K a year.

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I think I want to change jobs. That's a comfortable living for making up a job. Yeah.

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I think I found my new job. I'm quitting. Yeah. We should make an organization

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and become cryptozoologists. That's insane. That's the average.

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Yeah. Salaries go up to over $100K.

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Okay. You guys want to start a new company? No, I want to start. make

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up my own occupation now yeah holy shit

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that's insane that is insane like

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it's a made up title maybe that's where all our tax dollars go

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just go into funding these ridiculous programs

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maybe oh no i'm speechless this is ridiculous okay you know they even include

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total comp like health care paid vacations and 401k matches bonuses and overtime

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look for look for and job boards for people looking for a cryptozoologist.

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That's what we need. Go to like Indeed. Yeah, there we go.

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Like, I want to see what companies are hiring cryptozoologists.

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And B, how do you know he or she is a cryptozoologist?

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You get a degree in... Is it something you get from Hogwarts?

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Maybe. There's nothing in the Aurora area. Okay, let's expand our search. All right.

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This is so stupid. You can keep going.

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I'll let you know if I hit him in the head. All right. So explanations and theories.

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There's several theories have emerged to explain the origins and nature of the beast of Bray Road.

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Some believe it may be surviving relic of an unknown prehistoric species or

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a descendant of a long extinct creature.

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Others propose that it could be an undiscovered species or hybrid resulting

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from genetic anomalies. Skeptics, on the other hand, suggest that these sightings may be misidentifications

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of known animals, such as wolves, large dogs, or even individuals in elaborate costumes.

28:37

They argue about the power of suggestion and the allure of local legends may

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contribute to the perpetuation of the creature's existence. Did you find something?

28:49

I found a cryptozoology diploma course. Oh, no way.

28:54

Yeah, I'm going to send you the link. Yeah, from where? It's only $160.

28:58

And according to Indeed, you can use that degree and be like a marine biologist or ecologist.

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What the hell is going on? I don't know. You could be whatever you want to be

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when you grow up. Oh, my God.

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I hunt yetis for a living. Yeah, that's crazy.

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All right. I'm leaving the podcast to become a cryptozoologist.

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Just letting you guys know. So some pop culture, the Beast of Ray Road has garnered attention beyond the

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realm of cryptozoology, inspiring works of fiction, documentaries, and even a feature film.

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Its mysterious nature and allure of unexplained phenomenon continue to captivate

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audiences, ensuring its place in the annals of cryptid lore.

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The Beast of Ray Road remains an enigmatic figure in the realm of cryptozoology,

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captivating the imaginations of those intrigued by tales of mysterious creatures,

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whether it is a genuine unknown species or a product of folklore and misidentifications.

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That lie within the shadows So, you just sent me...

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What'd you send me? Diploma course. This is fascinating.

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This is, we made such a left turn on this fucking episode.

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I'm also, like, Elkhorn, Wisconsin is a town. It's just this little, it's not a big town.

30:34

I got, cryptozoologist duties often include gathering data about potential animal

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sightings, interviewing witnesses and assessing their trustworthiness,

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this, producing academic reports to explain research methods and outline final results,

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securing physical proof of an animal's presence, such as droppings or verifiable video footage,

30:55

analyzing supposed physical evidence to determine if it offers proof of an animal's existence,

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advocating for their causes in public and at industry events,

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and lastly, considering how undiscovered species could affect their natural environment.

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So, looking at this class, there's 3,000 users enrolled in Cryptozoology Diploma Course.

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What will you learn? Let's learn. What will we learn?

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Cryptozoology is the study of creatures whose existence is disputed or unsubstantiated.

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However, while the existence of animals like the Loch Ness Monster or the Yeti

31:38

is not proven, neither has it been categorically disproven.

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In this course, you'll explore theories and explanations from scientists and cryptozoologists.

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You'll see arguments to support and undermine the evidence for the fantastical creatures.

31:53

By the end of the cryptozoology diploma course, you'll be able to decide whether

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lake monsters, sea serpents, thunderbirds, and other mythical monsters are a rumor or a reality.

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I feel zone. They're just stealing people's money.

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I'll charge you 150 bucks put together a powerpoint and be like you have a certification

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in cryptozoology I'm going to put out a course on podcasting and be like listen to our podcast,

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anybody can do it anybody can do it like.

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There's 3000 people what on earth are people doing thinking.

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All right. So, all right. So here there's, okay.

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So the course syllabus module one, the concept of cryptozoology, um,

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introduction there is part one

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a definition of cryptozoology part two the

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history of crypt cryptozoology and related fields

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of study part three famous cryptids

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then you get to test your knowledge so they

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made over half a million dollars because it's

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what like 160 170 dollars yeah and

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3 000 people are enrolled they just made a half a mil for four

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slides on a powerpoint yeah no there's

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a total of 10 modules okay so module two the loch ness monster part one the

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beauty of the loch and recorded sightings part two the birth of the loch ness

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monster legend theories and explanations and other lake monsters you're gonna love module three.

33:43

Module module three is called the kraken and other sea monsters

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where they

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go talk about okay so part two of

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module three is called release the kraken i

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mean how can you take this seriously no all right

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so module four okay so this is actually better this

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is more i feel the rooted and so

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module four is giant anacondas of

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south america now that is a thing yeah yeah that's

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a real animal no no no when they say giant they mean

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like bigger than normal anaconda that yeah like the

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movie anaconda like it's like you know

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and they don't want two miles long you know you

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know my my anaconda don't want none yeah yeah unless you got buns on so so so

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yeah so and then also here module five the legend of bigfoot i can get behind

34:37

that you know we talk about the folklore of it and then module six the yeti which makes

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sense because the yeti is an offshoot of it's just a white bigfoot yeah the

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actually with the white oh yeah it is the abominable snowman yeah that's right that's right.

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Module 7, El Chupacabra, which is fine.

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Module 8, Thunderbirds, which is a thing because, I mean, there's even Native

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American legends of Thunderbirds. So far, half of this, I would say, is more credible than that.

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Right? Sure. Until we get to Module 9. Okay.

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Now, Module 9 is by far my second favorite, I would say. Okay.

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Mothman. Like your favorite cryptid? no no

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like my favorite module because it's it's ridiculous mothman

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i mean we're going to talk about mothman we

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have we have a whole module part one is

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the legend of it part two is mothman around the

35:39

world and then doom deliver or something

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else is part three i mean what the

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fuck are people give me 150 bucks and i'll

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talk to you for a day yeah i'll be your friend for a day

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right you will get sick of me and you'll be like

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thank god i'm not him i can go live my life certificate when you're

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done yes and then module 10 the

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future of cryptozoology i feel like

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they're missing a whole bunch of cryptids i would say so anyway

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sorry keep going yeah what else will i learn in this yeah so in that module

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you'll there's part one the obstacles facing cryptozoology one and then part

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2 is The Obstacles Facing Cryptozoology 2 and then part 3 is Cryptozoological Tourism. Oh, right.

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Just, this is just ways of stealing your money.

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Yeah, but people sign up for tours. You go any place of, you always got those

36:37

people that are looking to hire to give you a tour and you pay them a hundred

36:40

bucks to walk you around and be like, dumbass man. Yeah.

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Do you think the Mothman is anatomically correct? Do you think it is a man?

36:50

I don't even know about the Mothman. You just said it. You don't?

36:52

I don't know anything about it. Really? I think I've seen a drawing once. Was it a moth that looked like a man?

36:59

Or was it a man that looked like a moth?

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Isn't that a chicken and egg kind of? Yes, it is. Okay, yeah.

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So I also, Bree sent me over a job looking for a cryptozoologist.

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Yeah. that's amazing what what

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skill set is required is there any x amount of

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years experience that's what i'm looking for what soft skills do cryptozoologists

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often possess soft soft skills objectivity critical thinking attention to detail

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and data analysis okay job options for cryptozoologists,

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wildlife specialist. A naturalist, I don't know what I need to say, an observer.

37:46

What the fuck's an observer? I was going to say the same thing.

37:50

Like, how, like... All right, right. Primary duties. Observers monitor animal populations in person over a long period,

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recording any changes to their geographical range, predation, or behavior.

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If an animal's geographical range declines, observers may also vary,

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varied measure may use varied measures to assess the extent of this issue,

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such as the number of sightings recorded in a period or roadkill frequency.

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Wildlife biologist, Marine biologist. And that's it.

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I don't think I want to live in this world anymore.

38:28

Wow. All right. So back to the beast of Ray road.

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So what is this over here that you guys, set

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up is this like a the legend of beast of beast

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of prey road so i'll just read

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this it's an article it's an article okay yeah so

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we'll just go over it mark shackleman arrived at saint coletta school for exceptional

38:52

children a little before midnight he carried his flashlight on his belt as the

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night watchman for the school he walked these grounds every night the school

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The school was located inside a former Franciscan convent outside Jefferson,

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and the grounds covered several old buildings, an orchard, and wide open fields,

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where several old Native American burial mounds had been preserved.

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The year was 1936. Shackleman was in his 30s, a husband and father working the

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uneventful job for a paycheck to support his family. In rural Jefferson,

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there wasn't much to worry about, save the...

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I'm sorry, let me read that again. In rural Jefferson, there wasn't much to worry about, save...

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Save the possibility of a burglar or some teenagers playing a prank.

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God, that read so weird to me.

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That night, Shackleman was crossing the fields when he saw a shadow.

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He squinted to see what it was. A hunched form was on all fours, digging into the mounds from the canine.

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From the canine way it dug it, it could have been a dog or maybe a wolf,

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but even from afar, Shackleman could see that the thing was far too big for that.

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Suddenly, it looked at him, and then it stood up. The sleek,

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hairy body unfurled to over six feet tall.

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It had a shaggy, canine face, but beneath the thick fur, the muscular body of

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a man. A low growl echoed across the field.

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He smelled rotting meat. His heart beating fast, trying to control his breath,

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Shackleman stepped back. With sudden violence, the thing turned and ran off into the trees and was gone.

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The next night, Shackleman returned to St. Coletta for his usual rounds.

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As he walked the fields, he saw the shadow again, digging in the same mound as the night before.

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This time he gripped his flashlight tight, ready to run or swing if needed.

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Again, it stood up.

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But this time it opened its mouth. Shackleman saw fangs hanging down from its

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teeth and its lips pulled apart in a snarl.

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A growl led him, its speech half human, half beast.

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He didn't move, and again the creature turned and left.

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He never saw it again, but the horrendous growl, the way it seemed to speak

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to him, stuck in his mind for years afterward.

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This legend is the first reported sighting of the creature that would eventually

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become known as the Beast of Bray Road.

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Sightings become prevalent in the 80s and 90s, particularly centralized around Elkhorn.

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One woman reported the beast attempting to break into her home and later injuring

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one of her horses, leaving a gash across its back.

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She claimed the footprints it left behind were over 12 inches long. Overachiever.

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A woman spotted it crossing the road in front of the car. Another driver saw

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it crouch on the side of the road, eating an animal.

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One young girl reported the beast chasing her through the forest.

41:48

No, that's just Little Red Riding Hood.

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Okay. In 1999, an 18-year-old girl was driving down a railroad near Delavan

41:58

when she says her right tire hit something, lifting it up off the ground.

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She stopped and got out to see what she had run over, but there was nothing there.

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She looked at the side of the car and saw a massive wolfish form standing on two legs.

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She rushed back into the car, and as she peeled away, the beast leapt onto her

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trunk, but slid off in the slick rain, and she sped home.

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Home that is lynette lynette gets out and goes are you okay yeah come here give

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me a hug and it just eats your face at least i wouldn't be the guilty party.

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Yeah. Don't look at me in that tone of voice. Don't look at me in that tone

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of voice. I swear to God, you're turning me into a potato.

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Hey, if you hit something, you don't just keep driving unless it's a zombie.

42:47

I usually look at my rear view mirror and be like, what was that?

42:50

Oh, it was nothing. Keep going. Even if it was a raccoon?

42:54

I ran over a skunk once and kept going. And my car smelled for like three months.

42:59

I love skunks and the smell. She likes the smell of skunks. I do. I open up my windows when I smell skunk.

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You know you can have a skunk as a pet? It smells tangy. No, you can.

43:11

Yeah, you can. You have to have a special exact license, but you can have a

43:15

skunk as a pet. I looked into it, and I thought Illinois, it's not allowed.

43:18

Well, maybe not in the state, but you can have one. And they also de-skunk them,

43:22

like they do with ferrets. That's not fair. Can we de-skunk Frank?

43:26

Ooh, can we? If you're an artist out there, go ahead and draw a picture of skunk Frank.

43:33

And send it to Frank at FringeBeyondLimits.com. We're going to de-skunk you.

43:39

I don't think. I don't think that's possible. Should we make a GoFundMe to get

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his procedure done? My transition?

43:47

Your procedure, getting it de-skunked. Do you think that would work?

43:51

I don't know. I don't think so. I would love to try that. They'll put an exhaust

43:54

pipe on the back. Like glass packs?

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Shoots out flames you know or they could just put it like a permanent i can

44:07

get behind that if i can shoot out flames i can't even talk today if i can shoot

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out flames every time i shit myself i would never stop shitting myself and you

44:19

would need the onesie with the butt flap, you could just see it flapping we can just put a permanent air freshener right

44:24

by his butt so every single time it's i don't think that works,

44:29

it's like far enough flowers i've hung i've

44:32

hung one of those pinecone trees from my pinecone trees

44:36

yeah you know those things that those uh pinecones not

44:39

pinecone trees yeah yeah trees are different yeah no

44:42

you know the pine tree it's a pine tree pinecone pine

44:45

tree things that you hang on the bed in your rearview mirror

44:48

i put that and on the small on my back

44:51

kind of like a stamp trap and i've hung it below and it didn't work yeah i think

44:59

you need a glade stick up thing the plugins plug it in my ass that might work

45:05

do you think they have like like air freshener butt plugs.

45:11

Maybe the diapers, maybe they have air freshener diapers.

45:16

Oh, here you go. Okay. I mean, maybe they can make butt plugs with lemon scent.

45:22

That would be great. If not, that could be your new invention and make a lot

45:26

of money. Then you can retire. Wow. I could retire to Elkhorn and live with the Beast of Bray Road.

45:32

Mm-hmm. Go back to your family. All right. All right, so back to this 18-year-old girl.

45:38

When she came forward with her story, many of the other sightings were reported

45:42

as well, prompting both further investigation and fresh skepticism and mockery.

45:47

These sightings prompted The Week, a Walworth County weekly paper,

45:53

to send Linda Godfrey to investigate and compile stories.

45:57

While initially skeptical, Godfrey says she came to believe the sincerity of

46:01

the witnesses who spoke to her. On her website, Godfrey writes.

46:21

Or hoaxes. In 2003, Godfrey wrote The Beast of Wraith Road, Tailing Wisconsin

46:27

Werewolf, which recounts in depth what she learned speaking to the many residents

46:31

in and around Elkhorn who report interactions with the beast.

46:36

Sightings of the beast have slowed down considerably since the 90s,

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although one or another still crops up on occasion.

46:43

The veracity of any of these claims remains a cause for speculation,

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but for now we'll leave you with a quote from one of the masters of the strange

46:53

and terrifying H.P. Lovecraft.

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There are horrors beyond life's edge that we do not suspect.

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And once in a while, man's evil prying calls them just within our range. Ba-dum-bum.

47:08

Yeah, there was a lot of redundancy looking into The Beast of Bray Road.

47:15

Everything was just the same stories over and over. There wasn't too much meat

47:20

and potatoes to the story, but it is interesting to me because it is so close.

47:25

Like i would love to take a drive

47:28

and hang out there for a night

47:31

it's just a country road in the middle of a town yeah right yeah right and and

47:36

i would love to like just park on the side of the road but why would they stay

47:40

there like maybe they moved out of the area and that's why they're not seeing

47:44

them often anymore or maybe it is like a real cryptid and it just aged out and

47:50

it's old and it's a crypt old instead

47:53

of a cryptid yeah it's yeah it's just

47:56

got old balls now and just it drags they drag they're very saggy and wrinkly

48:01

yeah and they i mean they're always wrinkly you know but they kind of just there's

48:06

your dragon now and it kind of hurts when he moves around maybe how you know

48:10

it's a guy that's a male one if it's a female well if

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he's got old saggy boobs and those are dragging do you want to

48:19

know how i know oh because when the man saw him keeping watch it ran away but

48:27

when the woman hit him with the car he stood his ground so he's definitely not

48:32

afraid of women so which makes him an abuser of some sorts.

48:38

You have weird logic. It's a man. Now you figure this out?

48:43

I'm still trying to put together what you just said. Me too.

48:45

I'm like, how does that still show you that that's a man? So is all six of our listeners.

48:50

Pretty much, yeah. So what do you guys think of this beast at Berry Road? Is it real?

48:57

And if it's not real, what do you think

48:59

they're seeing? Is it just a misidentification? Is it a hallucination?

49:03

Is it possibly just me out there dressed up like a wolf?

49:08

That could be a possibility. I feel like they are seeing something.

49:11

They are experiencing some type of animal.

49:16

I'm assuming all this stuff is happening at night, so they can't really tell

49:18

what this creature looks like. So I think it's some type of animal.

49:24

And they just, with it being a dark, they're just over-exaggerating everything

49:28

because you don't see it clearly.

49:31

That's my opinion. No, that's a good opinion. I think people drink a lot in

49:37

Wisconsin, and they're just making stuff up, and they eat a lot of cheese.

49:42

I don't know if I believe in this one.

49:44

So there is one thing that's true about Wisconsin.

49:49

They're full of cheese, beer, porn shops, and serial killers.

49:55

Did you say porn shops? Porn.

49:58

Okay, I thought you said porn shops. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to clarify. For who, yourself?

50:05

Me and everyone out there because i didn't know if you meant to say pork chops but he said porn chops,

50:14

both they have both up there okay for everyone out there that was my audible eye roll.

50:22

Of brianna they do have a lot of serial killers up there yeah they

50:25

do right i mean so like that's why like i am scared of

50:28

wisconsin people like i don't know if

50:31

they are legitimately just drunk and bloated from

50:34

all the cheese or if they just watched a

50:37

bunch of porn and was ready to kill people because they're on this like sex crazed

50:40

bender maybe bound up bender bound because of all the cheese so i you know i

50:51

would like to think that a lot a lot of these are are are real like Like,

50:57

you know, since it's been going on for so many years,

51:00

like, yeah, it could be just people just jumping on the bandwagon.

51:04

Oh, yeah, I saw the beast, too, you know.

51:08

But with this lady, was it Linda Godfrey? Mm-hmm.

51:12

With her being skeptical and then going to investigate and finally...

51:17

Having these one-on-one conversations with these people and seeing the sincerity

51:22

in their eyes and their voice and their mannerism.

51:24

I mean, there's something to that.

51:26

Maybe, maybe they didn't see, maybe, you know, the beast is fake,

51:31

but they definitely saw something that they thought was scary enough to come

51:37

out, come forward and say this and have that sincerity, you know?

51:40

So I kind of wanted to lean towards yes, but it's just still,

51:45

you know, on, you know, within or beyond the limits of the fringe, right?

51:50

Kind of like our name for a show. Sure. Yep. Yeah.

51:53

Did you guys like that plug or no? That was great. It was a good plug.

51:57

You guys are, I hate you all. So, yeah. Anything else to add to this? So when are you driving up there?

52:05

You going in the summer or the winter? I would rather do the summer.

52:09

Okay. Or even like the fall. Yeah, because, you know, in my old age, like I just can't be out in the cold

52:18

for as long as I used to be able to, you know?

52:22

Yeah, in Wisconsin, they go swimming when it's like 30 degrees outside and stuff.

52:26

So it's, you'll stand out like a sore thumb if you're wearing a coat in Wisconsin.

52:29

If you're a listener from Wisconsin, I love you. You're my favorite people.

52:35

This is for anyone who's not a listener from Wisconsin.

52:39

But I really think that they're like the Alabama of the North.

52:44

I mean, I kid. I kid our neighbors to the North. You know what they call us? They call us fish.

52:52

What does that stand for? Fucking Illinois shitheads. Oh, that's friendly. Or fibs.

52:58

Fucking Illinois bastards. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's because they're hoarding all

53:02

the new Glarus up there. All the new what? The new Glarus beer.

53:06

Oh, is there a new one? No, just in general. We can't get that beer down here.

53:10

Oh, I know. Is that Spotted Cow too, right? Yeah, that's the Spotted Cow. Yeah.

53:14

Spotted Cow is good. I will say that they do have good taste in beer.

53:18

Sure do. Yeah, 100%. That and jerky.

53:21

They don't have a lot of vegetarian options in Wisconsin. No,

53:23

they do not. They don't. I usually go hungry when I go to Wisconsin.

53:26

Do you? Yeah. You just fill up on cheese. I just eat cheese. Cheese and beer.

53:30

Cheese, beer, and just watch porn. That's all you do. Porn shops, yeah.

53:35

All right. Well, guys, I hope you learned something about our great state of

53:39

Wisconsin today. We love them. We do. We do. My brother-in-law, Brianna's brother, lives in Wisconsin with

53:47

three beautiful children. Dustin if you're listening get out so.

53:55

Anyway yeah anything any last words here ladies,

53:59

no but I would like to go visit this road camp out oh no I don't camp,

54:05

well like camp out in your car you mean like sit there and oh right

54:08

is that what you mean or you mean like no I think she means actually yeah she

54:11

means like I would I'm like one of those people that would actually go

54:14

camping I don't camp I need remember I think we we're

54:17

talking about i need a structure i'll i'll drive down the road

54:19

to the hotel and i'll sleep in a bed and

54:23

i'll have like running water and a snack machine

54:26

i can get something out of you could just take a shower the next day you can

54:29

poop in the the woods i've pooped in woods i've pooped off a mountain i have

54:35

pooped myself i mean i have no problems pooping wherever i poop that's not the

54:41

The issue is I need a bed and I need a structure around me.

54:45

You can sleep in your car. I could. I'd be really fucking uncomfortable though.

54:50

No. No. All right. Well. Well, on that note, visit our website,

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fringebeyondlimits.com. Email us if you are the Beast of Ray Road.

54:59

Send us an email at frank at fringebeyondlimits.com. With a non-grainy photo.

55:04

I would like a dick pic from the Beast of Ray Road. Yeah.

55:07

So send me one of those. If you have had encounters with the Beast of Ray Road

55:12

or other cryptids, let us know. We'd love to hear.

55:14

And visit our Facebook, FringeBeyondLimits.com, and Instagram.

55:22

So on that note, you guys all have a wonderful day. Stay weird. Bye. See you.

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Music.