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Music.

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Hello howdy hey y'all welcome

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to another episode of fringe beyond the

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limits i'm frank i

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am brie and this is one that why

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are we so sing-songy i don't know but i think this is gonna drive me crazy yeah

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just now it's just now driving you crazy you know i there is a reoccurring theme

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out of all of our episodes that I hate you to.

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Mm-hmm. And you guys drive me crazy.

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Good. That's awesome. You'll never forget us.

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No. You guys will be the nightmares of my waking hours. Perfect.

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Anyway, how have you guys been?

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I've been great.

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Do you want to expand on that? I've just been good. You know?

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I'm still alive, so I'm good. You went from great to good and still alive. It's just dwindling.

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Anything else you'd like to add to that? Nope. Okay. Lynette,

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how have you been? I'm all right. Okay. Yeah. That's good. I've been okay.

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Just same old, same old. Yeah. You know, enjoying my time here on this earth. Mm-hmm.

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Enjoying my dogs. Mm-hmm. Trying to enjoy my wife.

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Mm-hmm. Doesn't always work out. Mm-hmm. she

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hates me and rightfully so

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i swore to god well you i was just reconfirming everything that she said not

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a single thing he said was a lie i'm pretty sure our last episode will be the

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police breaking in here arresting me for the murder of you too i can't wait

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to come back and haunt your ass same you know like i i'm the show the netflix show making a murderer this

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is the podcast version of that i swear,

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how have you been i already answered that i'm not going to repeat myself because

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you weren't paying attention i didn't say that i wanted to know how you really feel no done.

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All right so as usual i have a another episode or i'm sorry article to start the episode

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here's the title the latest

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viral walking workout is all about fiber

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and farting what so what

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do you guys think this is about mall walkers power walking in the mall and people

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who can't hold their farts so they've made it a workout so people like you so

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surprise to everyone i just I just picked this off of the title.

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I have not read this article. So we're going to be going on this roller coaster together.

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Yay. Marilyn Smith calls herself the Queen of Fiber.

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Now, all right. So as I'm reading this, it says the Queen of Fiber.

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Fiber is spelled F-I-B-R-E, not F-I-B-E-R.

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Do you think it's the same word meaning the same thing? Yeah.

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Is it European? I don't know. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know. Oh,

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that's why I'm asking. Fibre. Fibre. Fibre. Fibre. You got to say it in an accent. Fibre. Merlin Smith,

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the closer stuff, the queen of fibre.

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Should I read it like that? Please do. Yes.

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Every other word. I feel conflicted all of a sudden.

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I'm going to say probably no so people understand you, but yes. All right.

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Her goal is to help people make small changes that will impact their long-term

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health, particularly when it comes incorporating healthy doses of fiber into their diets.

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The 70-year-old author of seven cookbooks, who most recently published her book

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Peace, Love, and Fibre, is dedicated to working on her own health as well as

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giving advice to others and obtaining ways including TikTok videos.

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Most recently, she's gone viral online for her love of hashtag fartwalks.

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What? Yeah. No. Anything is a hashtag nowadays.

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Hashtag. Do you think it's like a way of speed walking?

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That's exactly how I picture it. Tight butt cheeks and as you go. More?

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A name she coined to describe the walk she goes on with her husband about 60

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minutes after dinner to release gas that built up during their meal. Oh.

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Why do we do this? Well, we eat a lot of fiber, so we have gas,

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Smith says in the video, and you fart when you walk, so that's why I named it that.

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I've been trying to get people to eat fiber-rich diets for about 20 years, Smith tells Today.com.

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I'm very excited that people sort of got on board.

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Our social media, sort of got on board. Sort of.

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I mean, you know, are they getting on board? Maybe, sort of.

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On social media and in her cookbook, Smith strives to give people simple and

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attainable tips that would help improve their health and prevent long-term diseases.

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It's the little healthy habits we practice every day that can have the biggest

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impact on our long-term health, she notes.

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What is hashtag fart walk?

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Every day after dinner, Smith goes on a 20-minute walk at a moderate pace,

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which she calls fart walks. walks in 2020 smith began i've never thought i would

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say the word the term fart walks this much.

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In 2020 smith began recording her post in our walks and posted the videos on social media,

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she and her husband had an important intention in mind when starting this habit

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the main reason we did them is because we wanted to reduce our chances of developing

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type 2 diabetes she says Well, too fucking late for me.

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You just need to start fart walking. I don't have to walk to fart.

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I am gassy on command sometimes.

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Go. Go. Kidding. She says, why? Well, because walking is helping maintain our blood sugars.

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Smith explains in the video, and as you age, especially after 40,

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you have a bigger chance of developing type 2 diabetes.

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The science is when we sit down after dinner, your gut doesn't work as well.

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You actually have to move it. To get all that gas out, she explains. Smith has seen that going on these walks

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helps reduce bloating and acid reflux.

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Engagement on our fart walk videos had been pretty steady until March 13th.

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The fart walk videos, that's what got me. Mine is the engagements.

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I mean, do you think it's just people giving her like sound clips of them farting?

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Oh my goodness. Right. Yeah oh my goodness all right march 13th when she posted a video of herself

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on a fart walk as part of a series she calls aging wonderfully and it took off

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the hashtag she has been posting for years suddenly earned millions of likes

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and views she was stunned by the uptick in engagement,

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yeah you want to know why because that's when the

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fucking pandemic hit and all you could do was walk

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and fart right and everyone had

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masks on so nobody could smell you yeah fart walking her post

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has roughly 9.5 million views views 7

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000 comments and 321 000 likes i think the part that is making my heart just

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glow is i've gotten so many dms and so many people reaching out saying thank

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you thank you for normalizing this or i finally got my husband to go for a walk

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because he called it a fart walk. That'd be my husband. I don't want a regular walk. No. I don't want a fart walk. Yes.

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It's like you're dealing with children, you know? 100%. Smith says she's proud

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to have made a difference with this trend.

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It makes me really happy that maybe I am making a difference in somebody's long-term health, Smith says.

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At 70 years old, Smith says she goes on two walks per day, and she's glad to

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have the luxury of being able to build walks into her day.

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However there was a time when she did not have much time to do this but she

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developed the little habits that kept her active so do you think that she didn't

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fart as much back in the day well yeah.

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Maybe like with covid and everything you just got to be yourself prior to covid everyone,

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are you smelling your own part smelling your eyes as far as everyone needs to

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be like hoity-toity and after COVID we all just let ourselves go let it all

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hang out yeah hey nice to meet you my name is just my god.

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Remember there was a whole thing, it was like coughing in public,

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people will give you the sideways look. But if you fart in public, people are like, meh.

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I'm wearing a mask, I can't smell it anyway. That's fine, go for it.

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I would get off at the subway station farther away so I could get that 20 minutes in before I get home.

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Those little tiny things that you can do on an everyday basis to be moving more

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is great. Even if you can't fit a 20-minute walk into your day,

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Smith recommends squeezing in a shorter burst.

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This is exactly what this says. I believe you. Instead of sitting at your desk

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for the entire day, she recommends getting up for a quick five-minute walk every once in a while.

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One of my tips is that if you drink water, it makes you want to go to the bathroom.

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So drink water, so then you have to walk to the washroom. How far away is the

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bathroom in your office? Mine's a block away, and I'm not kidding you. What do you mean it's a block away?

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It's a block away my building is like the size of a city block right and oh

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no sorry the bathroom is close the cafeteria is tired man and that's how she

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stays so fit yeah you got a bathroom there and,

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kitchen's too far anyway i'm sorry yeah you're making constant deposits just.

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In her experience she

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has learned that forming minor habits that keep you active for at least a few

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minutes will have an effect on your health i didn't just start looking after

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myself at 70 i started looking after myself when i was in my 30s because i thought

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i wanted to be active vibrant until the day that i dropped dead smith says whatever

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your age is it's never too early and it's never too late to get active.

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All right, so. I think I found a new exercise. Yeah, it goes into like the diet

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next, which I'll just skip, but like, what the hell was that?

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Did you guys hear that? Yeah. I have no idea what that was. All right, anyway.

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So what things are you guys going to start changing to make yourselves fart more?

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Well, I already eat a lot of fiber because I don't eat meat with feet.

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Okay. So how is your flatulence been since then?

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When I first cut out meat and ate more fiber, it was terrible.

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Was it? I had to go home from work early a couple times. It was bad.

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Because I had to walk a block to the bathroom every time I had to go.

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Yeah, so did you voluntarily go or did people ask you to leave?

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I discreetly snuck out. Like most of your gas. You just discreetly. No, I can't poop or fart in public.

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It's a bad thing. What do you mean you can't? I have shy bowels or whatever they're called. Shy bowel syndrome. SPS? SPS.

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Shy bowel syndrome. Do you really? Yeah, that's why I'm actually nervous about

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this trip. I'm going to be gone three weeks and I don't know what I'm going to do.

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Oh, boy. Oh, Lord. I have never been shy. I have shit in front of you guys so many times.

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We wish you were a little more shy. No, you don't.

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We do. you you really don't you wouldn't you wouldn't like me like that one

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time we went to the racetrack and you made the bench vibrate yeah that was awesome

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we were in a stadium and you made the bench shake i know i have i have powerful

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toot power toot power yeah ptp ptp.

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Or that time that there was an earthquake and missy

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thought you were actually farting was it earthquake yeah did

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you hear this story you haven't heard this story i remember the

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earthquake oh yeah so you remember it was like 15 years

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ago i was gonna say 29 2000 29

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i know we're all tired 2010 but something

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like that it was around that time yeah so i all

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right so sometimes i fart so

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loud it wakes my wife up so this

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one night in particular she gets woken up around

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i don't know 2 30 3 15 whatever time

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it was and she yells at me she thought

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i farted and vibrated the bed

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so she gets up

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to go to work and she's tired and she's talking and

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you know a couple co-workers were talking and they

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you know they're like missy like did you feel the

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earthquake last night and she's like earthquake what earthquake

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frank she had his pants so hard already shook the

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whole midwest i shook the state of illinois the state of illinois and they're

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like yeah there was an earthquake and you know and she's like what time was

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that at and whatever time it was that was the same time that she woke up and

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she started laughing she goes oh my god i thought that was frank's fart that

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vibrated the bed and enough to wake me up oh my god but no it It was the earthquake.

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That's funny. Yeah, so I have powerful two power. PTP. PTP, baby.

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So yeah, I am all for tooting. I can't wait to be like those 85 year old men

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that just walk around shooting their pants. You already are.

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Yeah, but at least this way, you look at them like, yeah, you've earned it.

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One time I was at a Hobby Lobby. And I was shopping for Christmas stuff. And there was this little old lady in

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front of me. And she just cuts one loose. Oh, no.

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I'm as far away from her as I am from you guys. Like a foot. And she's.

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And I. I was laughing so hard. My eyes were watering.

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What I needed was right in front of her. And I just left the store.

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Question yes you in the back did you,

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did did your lips and face reverberate like a dog on the window that's the exact

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visual that would be you that already is you that is me yeah yeah i have i i

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wouldn't say i have a problem.

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I would just say that I am advanced.

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Advanced? Yeah. I have an advanced degree in flatulence, ADF.

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We've got acronyms for days today. Oh, absolutely. On a roll.

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So yeah, you know, top to bottom, T to B.

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So, all right. Oh, good. This is a great article then. I'm happy we were able to discuss this.

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So what are we talking about today, guys? we are

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talking about the doomsday cult the anthill

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kids i have no idea i don't think i've ever heard of the anthill kids do you

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want to give us a quick rundown brie on what you understand yeah uh there's

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like this crazy cult leader he just decided that i think it's like sometime in,

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1970s he feels like it's going to be the end of the day and i need to get ready for doomsday,

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and then he started getting all these followers.

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He ended up being very abusive to these followers and got very overexcited with

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his leadership, I guess you can say. Like overexcited in his role of leader?

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Just being strict. He loved to be strict and getting them to do what they want.

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He's very manipulative, I guess, in a way.

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Like most cult leaders, I guess. Yeah, and then obviously the day that he thought

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Doomsday was going to happen came and go, but people still followed him even

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though nothing happened. Is he still alive?

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I guess you'll find out later in this episode. A little foreshadowing?

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I don't want to give all the secrets. Shadows of Four?

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Ooh, that's a t-shirt idea. What? Shadows of Four. I don't get it.

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I don't either, but it sounds awesome. I'm like, huh? Huh? Yeah, no, just in general, Shadows of Four.

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Foreshadowing Shadows of Four. I see. All right, never mind.

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All right, so we're going to be talking about the Antilk. Why are they called

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the Antilkids? That's weird. I guess we'll get into that. All right, so let me get started here.

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So Rock Thoreau was born into a family of seven children in May 1947 in Quebec.

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Is it Rock? It's spelled R-O-C-H. I'm assuming that's Rock, right? Sure.

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That's how I would pronounce it. All right. So rock and dirt,

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and first of all, that's such a shitty way of spelling rock because when I think

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of rock, I think of Rocky, and that is the epitome of masculinity.

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Sylvester Stallone is also Italian, maybe. Is he? Do we know?

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We do not know. I'm not 100% sure. Do you need me to Google it real quick?

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No, but don't shit on Rocky. Rocky is the best underdog story ever.

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Mm-hmm. The Eye of the Tiger. I've actually never seen it.

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Now he really hates us. Yep. All right. So anyway, Rock endured a tumultuous

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life from the very start. He claims to have been abused by his father, but evidence of abuse has never been found.

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The family was devoutly Catholic, and young Rock developed a strong hatred for this religion. So...

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It says that he claims he was abused by his father, but there was no evidence.

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How would they have gotten that evidence? Would it be from siblings and family

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members that said that it never happened? That, or he never had any bruises or anything that he was able to show,

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anything physical that he can show. Okay, just because I- There was never any evidence. It was just more word by mouth.

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Yeah, because I mean, I could definitely see being in a devout,

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Any religion can lead Especially back In that time to Corporal Corporal punishment

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Is that what I'm trying to say? Yeah I think so Nobody knows what I'm trying to say Okay I agree with you Okay

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no I'm not saying you did I'm just saying So you're talking to somebody here

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That doesn't do good with English Yeah English is my second language English

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is my only language Yeah and you're bad at it Yep,

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During his childhood He abandoned formal education And began studying the Old

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Testament He firmly believed that a cosmic conflict between forces of good and evil will occur in 1979,

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and that an apocalypse would destroy the world.

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Now, I was born in 78, so I was not the apocalypse that was foretold in. Nope. Okay.

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No, it was neither my conceiving or my birth, because both of those events happened in 78.

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Okay. So, ha ha.

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Shadow four. Four shadows.

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In his teenage years, he displayed signs of aggression, including violent outbursts

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at friends and family members. It was also around this time when he developed a bad drinking habit,

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which only got worse over the course of his life.

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Using the alias Moses, Rock eventually declared himself a prophet.

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And of course, he's Moses, right?

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And in 1977, he found the Ant Hill Kids, named for their ant-like hard work.

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Well, there is a reason why. A doomsday cult rooted in the beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

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The group inhabited a remote plot of land nestled deep within the wilderness

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of the Somerville Township of Quebec.

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Rock's followers were persuaded to abandon their lives so they could join his movement.

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They had to sell all their possessions, sever family ties, and relocate to his commune.

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The followers weren't allowed much contact with the outside world,

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but they did sell handmade crafts and baked goods in order to fund their new way of life.

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So isn't this the same as every single cult practices?

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Yeah, it's like the same storyline, no matter what you look at.

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Some of the things that they do, like, abuse-wise may be a little different,

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but other than that, it's pretty much the same concept. It's just, as soon as any organization tells you, sell all of your stuff,

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don't ever see your loved ones again, and you have to come and live in my house.

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Like three huge red flags right

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like and and you know what all four listeners of fringe beyond limits you have

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to sell all your worldly possessions give me the money never talk to your family

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friends again and come live at my house email me and i'll send you my address thank you.

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Do you think that'll work guys you might have just opened a door for some folks

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to come knock on your door all right i'm i love company permanent company is

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there really any other kind transient company.

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All right so let's see rock drinking

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problems led to his rules for his

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followers became more and more strict rock started

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spying on his followers and when some seemed not

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devoted enough he would punish them if a

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person wished to leave the sect rock would

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become enraged he would hit them with belts

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or hammer oh hammers he would suspect them

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i'm sorry suspend them from the

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ceiling he would pluck each and every hair on their body individually what or

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he would defecate on them okay so this guy's a sociopath like we already knew

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that but this is a whole another level this is yeah this is just sweet off oh

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there's more oh there's more awesome. So how can you

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pluck each every hair off someone's body you get tweezers and go but like you'd

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have to get like up close and personal with some areas that i don't want to

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to be up close and personal with well i don't think you have a choice if you're

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hanging from didn't he say you said and if you're a crazy cult eater you're

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not gonna think about that, there's already something mentally going on up there that you really think they're

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gonna care you don't maybe what if like they're like clean freak i mean they

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could be a clean freak they could but then they probably have someone else do

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it for them what if they turn it into a game,

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One for you, one for me. You grab the leg hairs and you pull out and you say,

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how many? And they have to guess. I had a friend who did that. To you? No. I don't have. You don't have friends?

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That's correct. Okay. All right. That's a topic for another day.

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All right. So, and he would defecate on them.

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So, have you heard of these people? Maybe he should have gone for a poop walk. A fart walk. A fart walk.

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I mean the poop walk yeah we get hashtag poop walk i wonder how many people

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on that walk though accidentally pooped instead of fart and what if he had a

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poop would you try to poop in like someone's yard like do you bring your own doggy i mean.

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You probably do yeah i can

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only imagine yeah or maybe they wear depends during it

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too so like maybe oh so it's like that diaper story

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we had last week the diaper

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spot wow everything just ties together so

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but so so would you poop in someone's backyard like if you had to go like i'm

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saying like like like i may have yeah oh it's not will she it's did she i don't

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know if i'll ever do it again but it was an emergency i'm not saying i'm not

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saying you're just like oh you know you know what? I don't like that guy. I'm going to go shit in his yard.

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Yeah. Not like a front porch or yard. Yeah. So funny story.

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When we first got Sheldon, we took, I took him for a walk and we're walking and.

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There's this yard that had these bushes and they were like right by

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the and they're just shitty bushes so perfect for

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shitting perfect no sheldon just

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just had to have to pee so he goes and it was just more

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of him marking so you know so he goes to pee he's

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like on these like shitty bushes and the owner

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of the house was standing in his door and yells at me he

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goes don't let your fucking dog and i

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got so mad i'm like what the fuck is this guy

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and like i just reacted acted it's probably not the right

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the best thing but i reckon i told him go fuck himself i go

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fuck you i'm like you know what i'm gonna come back here later i'm gonna shit

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in your fucking yard and i and i walk off i remember you saying tell me the

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story yeah so have you seen him since no i haven't but i know which house it

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is and i did and i still walk the dog about by there,

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but i come home and i

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tell missy the story and she's like she's like

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you can't do that and i'm like what she goes you know

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i'm a home alone sometimes what if they come i'm like they're not we just had

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words i didn't start the hatfield and mccoy feud for god's sakes you never know

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i mean if i did i would i would be shitting dizzy hard exclusively yeah so all

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right yeah so but i I didn't. I did not shit. Allegedly. Did not shit. Allegedly did not shit. Did not shit in his yard.

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So, all right, back to the story. So he would defecate on them.

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Another punishment would include burning with a welding torch and having their

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fingers cut off with wire clippers. Ouch.

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I don't understand. Like when people go through this, why are they still like

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there? Well, because they can't leave. They have no money and no possessions and anything at that point, right?

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So it's like, I don't know. You're stuck. stuck it's just a stubborn person

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in me that's like i don't as i don't understand that's why i get so interested

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in these like cult stories because the mentality of the people in it as well

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as the leaders is like it's crazy so the mentality is that somewhere near montana yeah,

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mentality thank you i'm telling

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i'm gonna put these all together in one huge clip he forced commune commune

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members to break their own legs with sledgehammers to shoot each other in the

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shoulders eating their own and others's feces insects and rats.

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What oh my how have i not heard about this,

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this should be like on every halloween if you guys are part of the anthill cult

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send me an email at fringebeyondlimits.com.

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I would love to talk to you. Do you think Alien Ant Farm was part of this cult?

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That's probably where they got Smooth Criminal from. Probably.

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I think they brought that from MJ. Michael Jordan? Yeah. Magic Johnson? Yeah. Okay.

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He would nail children to a tree and force other children to throw rocks at them.

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How the fuck do you nail a child to a tree?

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Gotta be sick and psychotic. The handful of times I've ever reprimanded a child,

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I felt bad about it two minutes later.

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And i thought canadians were nice maybe not in quebec maybe maybe quebec is

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like the alabama of canada maybe,

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oh my goodness listen if you're a listener from alabama i love you we're not

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talking about you specifically just the people around you just everyone else.

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He would forcibly remove teeth and nails

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he would burn his followers by making them

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sit on lit stoves he would cut off arms and legs without warning he made them

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sit naked in the cold and whip and beat them nothing was too cruel a punishment

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the followers obviously suffered from severe physical abuse,

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but also sexual abuse. You know what? I've never been sexually abused, but if you give me the option,

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hey, I'm going to shoot you in shoulders, make you eat your own and other people's shit.

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Make you sit on lit stoves, or I'm going to sexually abuse you.

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You know what? Have your way with me. I mean, and that's just me personally.

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Like, and I'm not trying to make light of sexual abuse at all, but of those things.

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If you were put in that position, yeah, I can see where you're coming from.

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Like, yeah, I, yeah, sure.

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I mean, this is God awful. Like, I don't even know how you would think of this stuff.

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Like, what can I do now? You know what? Here's some wire cutters.

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Cut your fucking fingers and toes off till I say when. My God.

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Wow. He also told all the women that they were his wives and should beat.

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Bear. I'm sorry, bear. The mouse was in the way.

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And should bear his children. Ultimately, he had eight wives and eventually fathered a total of 23 children

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within the commune. or within the commune.

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His children also went through a lot of the abuse that his followers endured as well.

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So now, having an abusive upbringing, I had one.

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And the one thing I realized is that,

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parents who were abusive, and my dad was, are usually a lot harder on their

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kids than they are on everyone else.

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So you can only imagine what these kids went through.

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You know what I mean? Like, so my dad just always thought we were better than,

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or should be better than we are. We were just normal kids.

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So when we weren't as good as his expectations, we were treated harsher and more fiercer.

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Right. Punishment-wise, I guess. So if that's the case, I can't even imagine

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what he would say or do or did to his own children. No kidding.

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As the well-being of his seminars decreased, Rock became more and more convinced of his godly delusions.

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It became apparent to Rock that the world would end in 1979 and drove his commune

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into the Canadian wilderness, convinced that for some reason God would skip

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a chance to destroy Quebec. I would like to know why he thought that.

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So 1979 came and went, but the world did not end.

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His excuse was him saying our world and God's world run on different time zones.

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This excuse did not stop his followers from romanticizing him and proclaiming

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him as their absolute leader. Like, I need to be a cult leader.

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Because if I could just start making claims and when it doesn't happen,

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oh, you know, different time zones.

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You know that's how santa claus can

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can service the entire world in one night it's just

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you know the complexity of time zones oh so fucking weird so fucking weird all

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right so that was in 1979 came and went so 1989 that was the collapse of the

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anthill kids it took the near-death experience of Gabrielle Lavallee,

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one of his wives, to bring to light all these horrible crimes against humanity.

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Gabrielle had endured blowtorches held to her genitals. Ouch.

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What? I like how you're covering yourself. Listen, male, it doesn't matter.

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Male or female, that's just, that's, oh.

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Eight of her teeth taken out and a hypodermic needle breaking off in her spine.

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Ah. What? She had tried to escape, but could not live without the cult and went back to...

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We went back. Rock took this as a good reason to cut off one of her fingers,

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nail her hand to a table, and amputate her entire arm with a hunting knife.

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This guy is a psychopath. Oh, yes.

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It's not even a cult leader at this point. No. It's just a wannabe serial killer, torturer.

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Yeah. He's like into, like, ugh, I just don't understand. Of course,

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Gabrielle did not see this as enough reason to actually leave.

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It took Rock amputating parts of her breasts and smashing her head in with an

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axe for her to actually flee and contact the authorities.

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What? I floored my jaws on the floor. How does it take her for that to happen?

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I would have stopped with the honey knife. After that, I would have been like, okay, I'm done. done so let's

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say you're a member of this commune and

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you may not physically see this abuse but you hear what he did to one of his

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wives and he supposedly loves his wives what do you think he would do to you

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the normal commune member that's enough i don't understand like why these These people,

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and mind you, they're brainwashed. It's a mental health thing. Of course, right.

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And I feel for these people that got duped into this. But...

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As a group of people, you are stronger and better than the one person leading it.

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I mean, a revolt should be so simple in this instance, but I'm just curious

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as to why it just never happens. Oh, I feel so bad. Yeah. All right, so she contacted the authorities.

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Rock was eventually given a life sentence, one he did not complete.

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But even after being captured, Rock still fathered four more children with remaining

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female followers from the Ant Hill kids during conjugal visits.

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He also made headlines in 2009 when he attempted to sell his artwork through

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a true crime auction house. Kind of curious what this artwork looks like. Yeah, we should post some of that.

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On February 26, 2011, at the age of 63, Rock met a violent end in Dorchester

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Penitentiary when his cellmate, Matthew Gerard McDonald, a convicted murderer, stabbed him to death.

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McDonald then told the guard, that piece of shit down on the range.

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Wait, that piece of shit down on the range. Here's the knife. I've sliced them up.

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The tyrannical cult leader's reign of terror was over, as reported by the CBC.

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Mcdougall was already serving life in prison for murder and

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the crown only hands out life sentence for

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murderers so he was not given any additional

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time for killing rock actually i think they should maybe give him a little bit

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less time yeah give him like reward hey you know you get one less year maybe

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give him some conjugal visits jeez but all right so have you guys had any run-ins with,

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any cult-like groups? No.

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Depends on how you find cults. Well, yeah. I mean, like something like this.

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Like, have you ever been approached to join one? Do you know anyone that's joined one?

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Or thinking about joining something that may be cult-ish?

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Nope. Yeah, I don't. I can't think of anything. Have you? Yeah, no, I have not. Just hopeful.

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Oh, yeah. I kind of was. I would love to have like a first or secondhand story about that.

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No, I never. never never i i think i'm too

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blunt to be in a cult i don't think these i'm the

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person these guys are looking for you yeah

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unless the only way i can see maybe

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them is like okay if we can get him he can probably help us

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get a lot more people but we have to convince him

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which is i'm gonna tell you impossible because i'm

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gonna not only am i gonna see your bullshit i'm gonna call you on on

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your bullshit i want to call you names i'm going

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to say lots of bad things to you yeah so i

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mean i would probably be one of the wrong people too but i am curious if you

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guys if anyone out there had any run-ins first second hand or have you know

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been part of a cult please let us know we would actually love to interview you

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guys anyone who's been in a cult that's listening thing.

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Frank, my name's Frank. Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah. Frank at fringebeyondlimits.com. That's my email.

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Brianna, B-R-E-A-N-N-A at fringebeyondlimits.com or Lynette spelled L-Y-N-E-T-T-E

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at fringebeyondlimits.com.

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Reach out, let us know your story. We'd love to have a more in-depth discussion with you guys.

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So that is basically the doomsday

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cult of the anthill kids brie any

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any additional thoughts on this i may

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have nightmares now would be about being tortured is

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that really a nightmare for you it's weird it's like i can watch i love horror

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from movies i can watch them all the time love scary stuff but when it comes

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to torture i start cringing i feel like i'm the one being tortured and I start

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freaking out and I can't watch it. What's your safe word? Banana.

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I'm not going to fall for the banana in a tailpipe again. What movie?

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I don't know. I don't know either. Beverly Hills Cop. I don't remember if I've seen that one.

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It's like a thousand years old. Oh, I know. It has Eddie Murphy in it.

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Like, I see him like in the... I'm not going to fall for the man in the tailpipe again.

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God, you guys are horrible at this. It's just the movie thing.

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What about you? What? My safe word? Or...

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I mean, we can start with that. What is your safe word? Hedgehog.

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Wow. I like... Yeah. What about... Any thoughts about this?

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I mean, I know you're speechless. I'm really quite floored about this.

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I wish, and maybe there are some documentaries or something out there that I'd want to watch.

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I feel like this screams Hollywood, make a movie out of me kind of thing.

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I don't know. It's just, whew. Yeah, I know. I'm glad they're done. Or maybe they have an underground.

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I don't know. Like digital underground? Maybe.

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Digital underground. I feel like, well, now that Netflix has the How to Become

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a Cult Leader step-by-step guide.

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Do you know digital underground? No. I'm just moving on. It's Humpty Hump.

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The Humpty Dance. The Humpty Dance is your chance to dance.

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Somebody take this guy's mic away. Do the Humpty Hump. Do the Humpty Hump.

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How does your head move like that? I don't know. I don't know. Probably this year's a practice.

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It can't take you anywhere. No, no, not at all. So, yeah, this was horrific.

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And listen, don't join a cult.

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There's plenty of people out there that love you, that care for you.

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Whatever it is you guys are dealing with, you guys can always come talk to us.

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We'll get you in contact with people that can help.

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But if there's a group that says, hey, get rid of all your shit.

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Leave all your loved ones and come live with me.

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Just come to my house. Don't go anywhere else. Just come on over. We'll talk about it.

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And I'll keep you here. Yeah, just run as fast as you can. Run and never look back.

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Well, baby, come back. Although, isn't that what Frank kind of did to get us here? What?

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Just, I'll take care of it. We'll set it up over here. You just guys come over here, bring your dogs.

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So are you saying that we're actually in a cult right now? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Bye.

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What do you mean bye? You guys are chained. Oh that's what that was on my jeez that's why i was asking for your safe word

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i thought that was just an inklet it is it looks great on you here just wear this tracking device,

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can you put this under your skin right now please thank you all right so yeah

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that was that was a short and sweet one so well maybe not sweet but yeah but

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reach out to us guys you know we'd love to hear from you email now you can hit

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And yeah, we'd love to interact with you, get to know you, names,

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numbers, blood type, all of the above.

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Or if you just have any episode suggestions out on our website, leave us a comment.

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Yeah, we have a list that we are slowly working through.

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But yeah, if we don't have something on the list, we'll definitely add yours,

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give you a little credit for it. And yeah, so be it.

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Any closing words here, ladies? Don't join a cult.

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Don't join the coup. Come on in and join us.

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All right, guys. Thank you for listening. Oh, you have something?

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No, I was just sighing at your comments.

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Oh, all right. Well, thank you for listening. And you guys have a great night. Stay weird. Bye.

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Music.