In this must-listen episode, former AFL, MVP and dual premiership player with North Melbourne, Corey McKernan, is joined by former Essendon dual premiership player and Brownlow medallist James Hird.

In this interview, James bravely opens up about his mental health journey from breaking point to how he manages his wellbeing today. 

In lighter moments, Corey and James discuss for the first time the 1996 Brownlow medal, the 90's rivalry between Essendon and North Melbourne, his training mindset to be the champion player he was, how he managed his injuries, and his 'Fork in the Road' moment. 

Find out more about Walk With Me Online at www.walkwithmeonline.com. You can also watch the video version of this episode and other interviews. 

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Note: If you're struggling or the interview triggers any mental health issues, please know 24/7 help and support is available, and, if you're in Australia, we encourage you to contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636.