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The Human Glove Mystery – Part Two

The Human Glove Mystery – Part Two

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It's Thursday the 10th of May, 9. 1934

2:01

and at Wagga courthouse the trial of

2:03

Edward Henry Morey for the murder of

2:05

Percy Smith is coming to the end

2:07

of the third day of Crown evidence.

2:10

The prosecution's case has been close to

2:12

identical to that presented at the inquest

2:15

back in February, with all the same

2:17

witnesses called. Edwin Heddich

2:19

is told of finding the body, Detective

2:21

Constable Joe Ramis of hauling it ashore

2:23

on Christmas day and then discovering the

2:26

human glove two days later. Detective

2:29

Constable John Walkham has explained how

2:31

he fingerprinted that skin and then

2:33

matched those prints to ones on

2:35

file belonging to Percy Smith. The

2:37

courts heard about the last weeks

2:39

of the doomed man's life, with

2:41

invalid Moncrief Anderson telling how he'd

2:43

met him on Narandara Common where

2:45

Percy had stayed until late November.

2:48

Detective Sergeant Thomas McCray has told of

2:50

interviewing Ted Morey who said he'd bought

2:52

the wagon and horse and other things

2:54

from a man named George McDonald and

2:57

never until that day had he met

2:59

Percy Smith. Detective Sergeant

3:01

McCray has also testified to confronting

3:03

Ted with George McDonald, only for

3:05

the accused to say it wasn't

3:07

him but another man calling himself

3:09

by that name. The jury's

3:11

also heard about and seen blood spattered

3:14

clothes found in Ted Morey's possession. Various

3:17

residents of the rock have told of seeing

3:19

Ted drinking with Percy Smith and then seeing

3:21

two men fitting their description with the wagon

3:23

on the 18th of December close to where

3:25

the body was discovered in the Murrumbidgee River

3:27

a week later. Susan Pierce,

3:29

resident of Wagga's Tent Town who's

3:31

known the accused for nearly 10

3:34

years, has again testified that Ted

3:36

turned up the next morning alone

3:38

before going off to sell the

3:40

horse, wagon and other goods. Susan

3:43

Pierce has also testified again about

3:45

the blood stained trousers produced in

3:47

court saying that they belonged to

3:49

Ted Morey and she knows this

3:51

because she once patched them for

3:53

him. Kyle Simore has also told

3:55

of that day buying the wagon,

3:57

horse and harness from Ted Morey

3:59

and later they were

4:01

the same items described in the

4:03

daily advertisers account of Percy Smith's

4:05

last days. George McDonald

4:07

has testified he didn't sell the goods and

4:09

animals to Ted Morey who he knows but

4:12

hasn't seen for two years. Just

4:14

like the evidence and testimony at the

4:16

inquest, it's all pretty damning. When

4:18

the court adjourns Ted Morey returns to his

4:21

cell. Tomorrow his defense, such

4:23

as it is, will begin. Ted's

4:25

lawyer, Mr. LC Hutchinson will call

4:27

a couple of witnesses to vouch

4:29

for just a little of what

4:31

he said and Mr. Hutchinson will

4:33

say the crown's case is entirely

4:35

circumstantial. Ted will tell the jury

4:37

his story in his own words.

4:40

The same story he stuck to since

4:42

the start of the year. The one

4:44

about buying the wagon, horse and other

4:47

goods that had belonged to Percy Smith

4:49

from a man called George McDonald, though

4:51

not the one who's just appeared in

4:53

court. As convincing as

4:55

Ted can be, he knows his

4:57

prospects look bleak and it's likely

4:59

that by this time tomorrow, reporters

5:01

will be filing stories about how

5:03

he reacted when he was found

5:05

guilty and sentenced to hang. What

5:08

Ted doesn't know while he frets

5:11

in his cell is that right

5:13

now, just a mile or so

5:15

away in Wagga's grim tent town,

5:17

a crime has been committed that

5:19

will command more of the journalists'

5:21

attentions than his verdict. A crime

5:23

in which Ted has unwittingly played

5:25

a major role. I'm Michael Adams

5:27

and this is the second and final

5:29

installment of the Forgotten Australia episode, The

5:32

Human Glove Mystery. At

5:38

around 7 on the night of the 10th of

5:40

May, a gunshot rang out of the darkness on

5:42

the fringe of Tent Town. Then

5:45

came a scream and a woman's cry,

5:47

Creef is shot. What

6:00

had happened? Lillian told her, quote, Creve

6:02

is shot. I heard someone fire a shot. I

6:05

saw a pink flash in front of me. Quick,

6:07

run for the police. He fell at my feet.

6:10

Lillian was talking about her husband,

6:12

Moncreif Anderson, the 31-year-old invalid pensioner

6:15

who lived at Narandara Common with

6:17

Lillian and who'd known Percy. Moncreif

6:20

had testified at the inquest and then

6:22

two days ago for the crown again

6:24

at the trial. As

6:26

the police were summoned, men from the camp

6:28

ran to where Lillian said her husband had

6:31

been shot at a water trough that was

6:33

used by the camp's residents. When

6:35

they found Moncreif, he was on his

6:37

back, unconscious, bleeding from a bullet wound

6:39

beneath the top of his left ear.

6:42

There was a lot of blood. The men

6:44

carried Moncreif back to the camp

6:47

where Detective Sergeant McCray, Detective Constable

6:49

Ramis and Crosby had arrived. After

6:52

quickly examining the victim, he was loaded

6:54

into an ambulance and taken to the

6:56

Wagga Wagga District Hospital. Examining

6:59

Moncreif, Dr. Stephen Weeden believed he'd

7:01

been shot at close range. There

7:04

was no exit wound. Dr. Weeden

7:06

did an X-ray and confirmed that the

7:08

bullet was lodged in Moncreif's brain. Moncreif

7:11

Anderson's evidence had been important

7:13

in describing Percy Smith's movements

7:15

and in identifying his wagon,

7:18

horse and belongings. But

7:20

it hadn't been crucial to the case. It

7:22

wasn't like he'd seen Ted Morey

7:24

kill Percy Smith. Even

7:26

if he had and had said that in court, why

7:29

shoot him now after he'd testified?

7:32

At Tent Town, Detective Sergeant McCray

7:34

interviewed Lillian Anderson. He

7:37

learned that she and Moncreif had come to

7:39

Wagga from Narandah a common on Monday so

7:41

he could testify the next day. They'd

7:43

brought with them their 7-year-old daughter

7:46

Joyce, along with some Bantam fouls

7:48

and a few meagre possessions. The

7:51

family had planned to go back to Narandah

7:53

tomorrow morning. Lillian said that

7:55

after court adjourned earlier that day, she and her

7:57

husband had gone back to the hut they were

7:59

staying in that was owned by

8:01

a grizzled tent town veteran named Bob

8:03

Bowman. That had tea and

8:06

Moncrief had had a few drinks. At

8:08

around 7 she and her husband had decided

8:10

to go fetch some water from the trough.

8:13

But when they got out there Moncrief had

8:15

said to Lillian she should go back

8:17

and get another bucket. So she'd gone

8:19

to do that. On her

8:22

way back to the trough she'd run into

8:24

Susan Pierce's 14 year old daughter Laurel and

8:26

her friend Frances Jones who was also 14.

8:29

These teenage girls had Lillian's daughter Joyce with them.

8:31

Joyce had wanted to come with her mom to

8:33

get the water but Lillian had said it was

8:36

too cold and she should go back to the

8:38

hut with the older girls. Lillian

8:40

told the detectives she'd almost been back

8:42

to her husband when she'd seen the

8:45

flash and heard the bang and then

8:47

he'd fallen down. She didn't

8:49

know who'd shot him or why. Few

8:52

in tent town were going to sleep that

8:55

night. The detectives continued their interviews. 14

8:58

year old Frances Jones said she'd seen Lillian

9:00

going back to the trough holding a bucket

9:02

in her left hand and clasping her right

9:05

against her long coat. Laurel

9:07

Pierce said the same thing. Her

9:10

mother Susan who'd been one of the

9:12

major witnesses at Ted Morey's trial hadn't

9:14

seen anything apart from Lillian passing her

9:16

tent. But she did

9:18

have something of interest to the

9:20

detectives. Nine letters. Eight

9:23

were addressed to her from a woman

9:26

named Thelma Smith who'd first made contact

9:28

with her at the start of April.

9:31

When she'd replied to Thelma she said

9:33

she'd mailed the letters to her, care

9:35

of and L Anderson at the Narandara

9:37

post office. The other

9:39

letter Susan Pierce had was from Ted

9:42

Morey himself addressed to Thelma. It

9:44

had been written while he was in Albury

9:46

jail just last week. And

9:49

this was the letter we heard at the end

9:51

of the first instalment. So how

9:53

did Susan have this letter? It

9:55

had been given to her for safekeeping

9:57

by Lillian Anderson when she'd met her.

10:00

her this past Monday after Lillian,

10:02

Moncrief and Joyce arrived in Tent

10:04

Town. Lillian had explained

10:07

this by saying that she didn't want her husband

10:09

to find that she had a letter from Ted

10:11

Morey. She said she'd get it

10:13

back from Susan when they headed back to

10:15

Narandara and then she'd pass it on to

10:18

her friend Thelma. When

10:20

it was light, detectives searched for

10:22

physical evidence while Lillian went to

10:24

her husband's bedside. On

10:26

the ground near the trough, where Moncrief had

10:28

fallen on his back, were bits of his

10:30

brain matter in a pool of his dark

10:32

and sticky blood. This didn't

10:34

tell detectives anything they didn't already

10:36

know, that Moncrief Anderson was going

10:39

to die. Detectives

10:41

were looking for the murder weapon and as it

10:43

turned out, it was right in front of them.

10:47

Detective Constable Joe Ramis found it at the

10:49

bottom of that water trough that overnight no

10:51

one from the camp had dared go near.

10:54

Out of the mucky water, he pulled a .22 calibre

10:57

rifle, known colloquially as a

10:59

P-Gun. This rifle had a spent

11:01

cartridge in its breach. Bob

11:04

Bowman told police that this was the

11:06

rifle that Moncrief Anderson had had in

11:09

his possession and Moncrief's brother confirmed he'd

11:11

learned him the gun about five years

11:13

ago and he'd had it since. What

11:16

the teenage girls had said about Lillian could

11:19

be evidence that she'd been carrying the rifle

11:21

beneath her coat. Detective

11:24

Sergeant McCray compared the handwriting

11:26

of the rambling, often misspelled

11:28

Thelma Smith letters to a

11:30

sample of Lillian's handwriting. They

11:32

matched. The contents of

11:34

these letters, as we'll hear, left him

11:37

with no choice. As

11:39

her husband lay dying in

11:41

Wagadistrij Hospital, Detective Sergeant McCray

11:43

and Detective Constables Crosby and

11:45

Ramis arrived at the deathbed

11:47

to question her again. She'd

11:50

been denied knowing anything about any rifle

11:53

and she'd been denied knowing anything about

11:55

any letters. Detective Constable

11:58

Ramis showed her the gun and told

12:00

her they knew it had been in Moncrief's

12:03

possession. Detective Sergeant McCray

12:05

said the letters were in Lillian's

12:07

handwriting. That's when she

12:09

changed her story. She

12:12

said she had written the letters

12:14

though on behalf of her illiterate

12:16

friend Thelma Smith who until recently

12:18

had been working in the district.

12:21

As for the rifle, Lillian now said

12:23

that last night she and Moncrief had

12:25

gone out not to just get water

12:27

at the trough but also to shoot

12:29

feral cats who'd been preying on their

12:31

bantam fouls. She'd been carrying

12:33

the rifle, quote, I didn't mean

12:35

to shoot him, I turned round to the left and

12:38

I think that the rifle must have got caught in

12:40

my coat and it went off. Lillian

12:42

had panicked and dropped the rifle

12:44

in the water and then run

12:46

into the camp and in shock

12:48

told her story. Detective Sergeant

12:50

McCray arrested Lillian Anderson and took

12:53

her to Wagga police court where

12:55

she was charged with attempted murder

12:57

before being put into a cell.

13:00

Right then few took notice of the

13:03

small weeping woman in police custody because

13:05

all eyes were on the main court

13:07

where Ted Morey's trial was resuming. While

13:11

the prosecution had spent three days

13:14

constructing its case, the defense case

13:16

lasted just one hour. A groom

13:19

at the Terminus Hotel testified he'd

13:21

known Ted Morey for three years

13:24

and that about a week before Christmas

13:26

he'd come into the hotel yard with

13:28

the wagon. The day after that he'd

13:30

come back minus the wagon, his ear

13:32

bleeding and blood running onto his collar

13:35

and shirt. The groom testified

13:37

he'd commented on this at the

13:39

time. This testimony actually tallied

13:41

with what Lillian McIntyre of Tent Town

13:43

had said about Ted wearing the shirt

13:46

on the 19th when it wasn't blood-stained

13:48

and then seeing it blood-stained two days

13:50

later. So what he'd said about that

13:52

could have been true. A farmer

13:55

testified that he'd seen Ted just before

13:57

Christmas with his mate Joe Baker. and

14:00

he'd told them he'd give them 8-10 days

14:02

work which was worth about £5. It

14:05

had rained the next day and Ted had gone

14:07

to the rock and not come back to take

14:10

up the offer. This was

14:12

meant to prove that if the accused had

14:14

been wanting for money he hadn't needed to

14:16

murder anyone and sell their possessions because he

14:18

had a job if he wanted it. Then

14:21

finally, nearly six months after Percy

14:23

Smith had been murdered, the public

14:25

got to hear from the man

14:28

alleged to have committed the crime.

14:31

Ted Morey took the stand and began

14:33

in a quiet voice, Gentlemen

14:35

of the jury, I never murdered

14:37

Smith. He said he'd

14:39

bought the wagon from George McDonald just as

14:41

he'd told the police and after

14:43

selling it and the other things on the

14:45

19th of December he'd gotten on the booze

14:48

at the Terminus Hotel. Quote, It

14:51

went to my head, I bumped my ear

14:53

and caused it to bleed, the blood running

14:55

down onto my collar and shirt. As

14:58

for the blood on trousers found in his

15:00

truck he said he'd cut his finger while

15:03

working at Stan Knight's place. Witnesses

15:05

had placed a man who looked like him

15:07

with Percy Smith in the wagon on the

15:09

18th of December. To which he said quote,

15:12

I am not the man who went round by

15:14

Colin Gully. I was not in

15:16

any van on that road. I

15:18

am well known and somebody would have recognised

15:20

me on that road. It

15:23

was true that no witnesses had

15:25

identified him specifically as the man,

15:27

but then again Ted wasn't known

15:29

by every person in those parts.

15:32

Ted didn't deny selling the wagon and

15:34

other goods as described by witnesses. He

15:37

told the court that after being released from

15:39

the Wagga lockup on the 4th of January

15:41

he'd gone to Susan Pierce's tent but he'd

15:43

never said anything about Percy Smith's murder or

15:45

asked her to write a fake receipt for

15:48

the wagon in the name of George McDonald

15:50

so he could give it to the police.

15:53

He also said the blood stained trousers

15:55

in evidence, the ones that Susan Pierce

15:57

said were his and that Detective Constable

15:59

Ramis had found near the body discovery

16:01

site did not belong to him. He

16:04

finished with, that is all gentlemen of

16:06

the jury. I never hurt Smith. I

16:08

place myself in your hands to say

16:11

whether I am guilty or not guilty.

16:14

Ped's lawyer told the court that

16:16

all the evidence was purely circumstantial and

16:18

the crown had not suggested how

16:20

the alleged murder had happened. There

16:23

was no doubt about Percy Smith's movements

16:25

up to the time he arrived at

16:27

the Rock. Evidence had

16:29

been given by witnesses that supposedly showed

16:31

Ted had been broke but the jury

16:33

had also heard that if he wanted

16:35

money he had the promise of work

16:37

with that farmer. Ted Morey

16:39

had denied knowing Percy Smith and

16:42

at the time in the Rock nobody seemed

16:44

to know the dead man by name. That

16:47

was true most crown witnesses had only

16:49

known him by sight so maybe there

16:51

had been some sort of mix-up. Ted

16:54

Morey, his lawyers said, had been

16:57

cooperative and had answered all questions.

17:00

Worn that a blood test might not help

17:02

his cause he'd nevertheless submitted to

17:04

one willingly. Mr. Hutchison said

17:06

that the evidence of Mrs. Susan

17:08

Pierce and Mrs. Lillian McIntyre should

17:10

not be believed by the jury

17:13

and he insinuated that they'd been

17:15

coached by the cops. Mr.

17:18

Hutchison floated the idea that Percy

17:20

Smith had possibly been the victim

17:23

of suicide, accident or manslaughter. Summing

17:26

up for the crown, King's counsel

17:28

Mr. Monaghan said there had never

17:30

been a more truthful witness than

17:32

Mrs. Susan Pierce who appeared to

17:34

have a remarkable memory for detail.

17:36

There was he said extensive convincing

17:39

evidence of the two men traveling

17:41

in the wagon on the Cullingully

17:43

Road and being on the Yarragundry

17:45

Reserve just before Percy Smith dropped

17:47

off the face of the earth.

17:49

He said that the blood-stained trousers

17:51

found there had belonged to Ted

17:54

Morey. Mr. Monaghan said

17:56

the facts were undisputed. The accused

17:58

was the last person and scene

18:00

in Percy Smith's company and the next

18:03

morning he had begun selling the dead

18:05

man's possessions. Mr Monohan

18:07

said that it was just too fantastic

18:09

to believe that Percy Smith had died

18:11

as the result of an accident or

18:13

suicide. Acting Justice Maxwell

18:15

began his summing up at 1254. He

18:19

said that the Crown had proved beyond

18:21

any doubt that the dead man was

18:23

Percy Smith. What the

18:25

jury had to decide was whether he

18:27

had been murdered or whether it was

18:29

possible he died by accident or by

18:32

suicide. The chaff

18:34

bag, he said, seemed to argue

18:36

against Percy dying accidentally. Yet

18:38

he reminded the jury they had

18:40

heard from the government medical officer,

18:43

Dr Weeden, that it was theoretically

18:45

possible Percy had fractured his own

18:47

skull with a self-inflicted blow from

18:49

a very heavy instrument. Was

18:52

it possible to do that without tearing the chaff

18:54

bag in that place? And how

18:56

had Percy ensured that he'd gone into the

18:58

river? The judge said

19:00

the accused had offered explanations for blood

19:02

on some of his clothes. The

19:06

jury had to decide if they'd

19:08

believe those explanations and his other

19:10

stories about the mysterious George McDonald.

19:13

The judge concluded his summation at

19:15

just after three and directed the

19:17

jury to begin their deliberations. They

19:19

were back in less than an hour. Rising,

19:22

the foreman said they had found

19:25

Edward Henry Morey guilty of the

19:27

murder of Percy Smith. Under

19:30

the law, as it stood, such a

19:32

verdict required the judge to pronounce the

19:34

death sentence. Truth newspaper

19:37

described this moment. The paper's propensity

19:39

for colour and drama, this time

19:41

reading quite credibly, quote, He

19:44

stared straight ahead with unseeing eyes.

19:47

His hands were fluttering nervously on his knees.

19:49

The spectacle of the man will never be forgotten

19:51

by those who saw him. There

19:54

was a fearful moment when he was

19:56

sentenced to hang and his right hand

19:58

involuntarily went up and fumbled with the

20:00

knot of his tie. He gulped and

20:02

his heaving chest revealed how he was

20:04

panting for breath. Asked

20:06

by the judge if he had anything to say,

20:09

Ted Morey replied, quote, I still say

20:11

I am not guilty. I did

20:13

not murder Percy Smith. Ted

20:17

Morey had appeared stunned and shocked

20:19

in court upon being sentenced. Back

20:21

in his cell, the floodgates opened,

20:24

he collapsed and cried for hours.

20:27

It was reported that Lillian Anderson

20:29

was then in a hysterical state

20:32

in an adjoining cell. Her husband

20:34

Moncrief by then having died in

20:36

Wagga District Hospital, meaning her charge

20:38

was set to be upgraded to

20:40

murder. Did

20:43

these two distraught killers talk through the bars?

20:46

We don't know, though they would see each

20:48

other again. Newspaper

20:51

reports said that the sensational developments of the

20:53

past 24 hours risked Wagga

20:55

Police Court being besieged by curious

20:57

spectators and so it was deemed

20:59

prudent for Ted Morey to be

21:02

transferred to Long Bay jail immediately.

21:05

What seems equally likely is they

21:07

didn't want Ted and Lillian to

21:09

spend any further time in proximity

21:11

to one another, given that whatever

21:13

relationship they had would form a

21:15

large part of the murder case

21:17

against her. Under

21:20

the guard of Detective Constable John Walkham, who was

21:22

on his way back to the CIB, Ted

21:25

Morey was put on that night's express

21:27

train to Sydney. Truth either

21:29

had a man in the carriage or

21:31

later spoke to someone who'd been on

21:33

the train, possibly Detective Constable Walkham, in

21:36

order to be able to report, quote,

21:38

Last night travelling to Sydney, Morey

21:40

found it impossible to sleep. On

21:43

several occasions he burst into tears

21:45

but, though he cried, no sound

21:47

issued from his pallid lips. It

21:49

was clear that he was suffering

21:51

intensely. Was he

21:53

crying because he'd done Percy Smith to

21:55

death and being caught and convicted and

21:57

was now condemned? Or was

21:59

he weeping because he was in that

22:02

most invidious of predicaments, an innocent

22:04

man going to the gallows for

22:06

a crime he didn't commit. If

22:09

you were to entertain Ted's story about

22:12

George McDonald, then much of the other

22:14

evidence and testimony actually fit with his

22:16

claims. But the George

22:18

McDonald story didn't account for witnesses saying

22:21

they'd seen Ted with Percy at the

22:23

rock. Had all

22:25

of them mixed up Percy with Ted's other

22:27

sometime mate Joe Baker? It

22:29

seemed unlikely given that so many

22:32

had identified the stranger's wagon, his

22:34

horse, his long hair and his

22:36

speech impediment. And here's

22:38

what wasn't reported during the trial. The jury

22:41

wasn't allowed to know it and the police

22:43

couldn't testify to it. As

22:45

we heard in part one, Ted Morey

22:48

had criminal form, an account of which

22:50

I found in a letter at ancestry.com.au.

22:54

Later the 16th of May

22:56

1934, it was written by

22:58

Detective Sergeant McCray and Detective

23:00

Constable Raimus to Waggers Inspector

23:02

Stuart Walsh in the wake

23:04

of Ted's murder trial. The

23:07

letter was to be sent to the

23:09

Executive Council of the New South Wales

23:11

Government for consideration as they weighed whether

23:13

the condemned man's death sentence should be

23:15

carried out. Describing Ted Morey,

23:18

the letter reads in part quote, He

23:20

first came in contact with the police in the

23:22

month of April 1919 and since that time

23:26

he has been convicted on 31 occasions.

23:29

His convictions include stealing, receiving,

23:32

assault occasioning, actual bodily harm,

23:34

common assault, illegal use motorcar,

23:36

possession of opossum skins, use

23:38

cyanide for the destruction of

23:41

opossums and minor offences. After

23:44

describing his itinerant ways and

23:46

supposed criminal associations, it continued

23:48

quote, He is a man

23:50

addicted to drink when he has money

23:52

and when in that condition he becomes

23:55

quarrelsome and very violent. Included

23:57

in his convictions are five charges of assault

24:00

and one charge of assault occasioning

24:02

actual bodily harm, and when committing

24:04

these crimes, his modus operandi was

24:06

hitting men on the head with

24:08

bottles and pieces of wood. Ted

24:12

Morey's previous violent behaviour fit with how

24:14

Percy Smith had died. What

24:16

wasn't in the letter, but can be

24:18

found in Wagga's The Daily Advertiser two

24:20

years before the murder trial, is that

24:23

Ted Morey had also tried on a

24:25

similar defence before. In June of

24:27

1932, he'd been arrested by Detective Constable Ramus

24:30

for having 40 possum skins

24:32

in his possession. Detective

24:34

Constable Ramus had found them in a

24:36

house in Wagga, and they were fresh

24:38

with indications the animals had been poisoned

24:40

with cyanide. Ted's claim? He'd

24:43

borrowed 10 shillings from a friend so

24:45

he could buy these skins from a

24:47

Junee man named Bill Davis. So

24:50

he was innocent of the serious charge

24:52

of poisoning protected animals. Ted

24:54

also tried to claim he didn't even know

24:56

that having these skins was illegal. And

24:59

that was pretty rich because his police

25:01

file at the New South Wales State

25:03

Archives records two earlier possum skin convictions,

25:05

one in 1926, the other in 1929.

25:10

In similar fashion to how Ted would tell

25:13

Constable Walsh he should be able to find

25:15

George McDonald easily because the man had been

25:17

arrested before, in June of 1932 he'd said

25:19

to Detective Constable Ramus

25:22

that finding Bill Davis should be a sinch

25:24

because he knew the bloke had been locked

25:26

up for drunkenness. Ted

25:28

was remanded for a week or so

25:31

while Detective Constable Ramus investigated this story.

25:33

What he found was no record of

25:36

Bill Davis or such a drunkenness case.

25:39

Ted was convicted and fined £80. Immediately

25:43

upon his arrival at Central on the morning

25:45

of the 12th of May, Ted was driven

25:47

by constables to Long Bay jail where he

25:49

was put in a cell in Beahall. Standing

25:52

at the end of this corridor were the

25:54

gallows that had most recently been used to

25:57

hang William Moxley, as we've heard in the

25:59

news. in Sydney's red year. Now

26:02

they waited for Ted Morey. That

26:05

was unless the Executive Council decided

26:07

to commute his sentence to life

26:10

in prison. On

26:12

Tuesday the 15th of May, the burned

26:14

remains of a man were found in

26:16

a box drain under Bullying Road in

26:18

Baldwin, Melbourne. The man's left

26:21

hand had survived the fire to some

26:23

extent. It was removed

26:25

by the government pathologist and good prints

26:27

were taken from the charred fingers. Melbourne

26:30

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26:33

but this was the first of numerous

26:35

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26:37

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26:39

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26:41

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Friday the 18th of May, one

27:45

week after Ted was found guilty,

27:47

the inquest into Moncrief Anderson's death

27:49

began in Wagga Court. Lillian

27:52

Anderson had been 14 and a half

27:55

and pregnant to 22-year-old Moncrief when they

27:57

married in 1926. She

28:00

wasn't even 15 years old when

28:02

she had their daughter Joyce. About

28:05

two years later Moncrief had been smashed over

28:07

the head with a bottle and left an

28:09

invalid. That left Lillian to

28:11

care for him and the court heard that

28:14

she spent many a night sitting up with

28:16

her ailing husband. Yet

28:18

the injury, according to testimony from

28:20

one of Lillian's sisters, had made

28:22

Moncrief prone to drinking more and

28:24

becoming aggressive. Then she

28:27

said was frightened of him and he was

28:29

terribly jealous and wouldn't let her talk to

28:31

other men. The

28:33

court heard from Tent Town's teenage

28:35

girls, Laurel Pierce and Frances Jones,

28:37

about the night Moncrief had been

28:39

shot. They both testified to

28:41

seeing Lillian holding a bucket in her

28:43

left hand and holding her right hand

28:45

clasped to her coat against her body.

28:48

Bob Bowman told of Moncrief owning the rifle

28:50

and said the dead man and the accused

28:52

had appeared to be on the best of

28:54

terms. John Moncrief's brother

28:56

also said they got on well.

28:59

He said she wasn't cheating on him and

29:01

that he treated her well and that he

29:03

wasn't addicted to drink. Detective

29:06

Constable Raimis testified about going to the

29:08

Wagadistik Hospital the morning after the shooting

29:11

and confronting Lillian with the rifle. She

29:14

said quote, Yes, I told you a

29:16

lie last night. We took the rifle up to

29:18

shoot some cats and it went off and shot

29:20

Creif, but it was an accident. Detective

29:23

Sergeant McCray corroborated this saying he'd asked

29:25

her quote, Do you know Maury? No.

29:29

Have you written any letters to Maury? No. When

29:32

confronted with the letters, Lillian had admitted quote, I

29:34

wrote those letters for Thelma Smith, who she'd

29:37

known for 10 years and who couldn't read

29:39

or write. Detective Sergeant

29:41

McCray had asked where this Thelma might be

29:43

found. Lillian had said she'd been

29:45

working at Narandara but had left the previous

29:48

Friday to go, she thought, to

29:50

Helston. Helston was about 200

29:53

miles northeast of Wagawaga. But

29:56

given that police had travelled thousands of

29:58

miles during the Ted Maury investigation, it

30:00

would be no big thing for them

30:02

to go there and make inquiries about

30:04

Thelma Smith. Perhaps

30:06

considering this, Lillian had buckled up

30:09

hospital, allegedly telling the detective's quote,

30:12

I have told lies. I am Thelma

30:14

Smith. I have known Maury for

30:16

eight or nine years. I met him at the

30:18

Riverina Hotel, but he did not know that it

30:20

was me writing to him. Detective

30:23

Sergeant McCrae said she'd first told the story

30:25

of filling up the water bucket and then

30:27

hearing the shot and seeing the flash and

30:29

witnessing Creif drop. Then

30:32

she'd told the story about her and Mon Creif taking

30:34

a rifle to shoot cats that had been killing their

30:36

chickens. Quote, Creif got

30:38

the rifle and loaded it and stood it outside

30:41

with the little bucket. He said, you carry the

30:43

rifle and be careful how you carry it as

30:45

it might go off. Why the

30:47

rifle was in such a dangerous state

30:49

wasn't explained. When out

30:51

at the water trough Lillian said quote, I

30:54

turned around to the left and I think the rifle

30:56

must have got caught in my coat and it went

30:58

off. I did not know what to do

31:00

as I had got a big shot. The

31:03

problem with this, of course, was that the

31:05

gun had been fired into Mon Creif's head

31:08

from very close range. And

31:10

Dr. Whedon would testify that the

31:12

bullet had entered the skull almost

31:14

horizontally, which seemed to suggest

31:16

that Mon Creif Anderson had been killed

31:18

by a bullet that had been aimed

31:20

rather than one that had been fired

31:22

accidentally. Even

31:25

still, the accident story might have

31:27

been believable if not for those

31:29

letters, which painted a very different

31:31

picture of Lillian Anderson blurring into

31:34

her fictional alter ego Thelma Smith.

31:38

Lillian Anderson's life was apparently simple,

31:40

if difficult and dull. She

31:42

was the dutiful wife and mother doing

31:44

her best in the depression despite having

31:47

an invalid husband. Lillian's

31:49

life though was like something out of a

31:51

sordid novel. She was being

31:53

brutalised by the man to whom she was

31:55

pregnant while in love with a man charged

31:58

with the murder of yet another man who'd

32:00

once wanted to marry her. The

32:03

court was read the letters we heard in

32:05

part one, the three that Thelma had written

32:07

to Ted and his one reply, which Lillian

32:10

had asked Susan Pierce to hold onto because

32:12

she didn't want Moncrief to find it until

32:14

she could deliver it to Thelma when she

32:16

returned to Narandara. There were

32:18

eight more letters that Thelma had written

32:20

to Susan Pierce and Susan Pierce testified

32:23

that she'd given these letters to the

32:25

police. She said Lillian

32:27

had been asking her about the letters

32:29

on the 10th of May, the day

32:31

that Moncrief had been shot. Susan testified

32:33

that during one of these conversations that

32:36

day, Lillian had said Moncrief was a

32:38

mongrel who'd beat her. The

32:40

court was then read the letters that

32:43

Lillian as Thelma had written to Susan

32:45

Pierce. In the first,

32:47

in early April, Thelma had said

32:49

Susan didn't know her. What

32:51

they did have in common was their friendship

32:54

with Teddy, who Thelma said she'd known for

32:56

ten years. In

32:58

this letter, she asked Susan if she

33:00

had a photo of Ted. Helpfully, Susan

33:02

clipped one from truth and sent it

33:05

to Thelma's return address. In her subsequent

33:07

letters, Thelma said she was pregnant to

33:09

a violent man named Jack Hargraves. This

33:12

horrible bloke wanted to marry her and

33:14

he'd beat her because she was in

33:16

love with Ted Morey. She

33:18

also claimed that Jack had threatened to kill her.

33:21

Thelma Smith told Susan Pierce that back in June

33:24

of last year, it had been a different man

33:26

who'd wanted to marry her, and she'd

33:28

only realised who he was after he

33:30

turned up dead, Percy Smith,

33:32

though she'd known him under the

33:34

name of Percy Debit. Percy

33:37

she wrote was a drunken litch with a lisp

33:39

who she'd met while she was working in a

33:41

pub where he'd been drinking. Later,

33:44

when he proposed, she'd laughed at him

33:46

and said, quote, go to hell you

33:48

stupid pommy because she thought he was

33:50

English. If Ted

33:52

had killed him, Thelma wrote, then he'd done

33:54

this poor sod a favour. In

33:57

her letters, she said she did think Ted was

33:59

guilty. and she dearly wished

34:01

she'd been able to intervene and

34:03

get rid of evidence that was

34:05

used against him, particularly those blood-stained

34:07

trousers. Even if he

34:09

was guilty, she didn't care. I

34:12

still think the same of Ted as I did before

34:14

he got into this trouble. As

34:16

the letters continued, Thelma detailed the injuries

34:18

inflicted on her by Jack Hargraves,

34:20

who she still refused to marry.

34:23

Quote, He hit me and blacked my eye

34:25

and knocked me down a flight of stairs

34:27

and injured my back and arm and it

34:29

is very painful. He has given

34:31

me till Saturday to decide what I am

34:34

going to do, but I'll never marry him.

34:36

Thelma explained that Susan's replies had

34:38

to be sent care of Lena

34:41

Anderson, otherwise Jack Hargraves would get

34:43

her mail. Thelma explained

34:45

that this Lena was the wife

34:47

of a witness against Ted Morey.

34:50

She said Lena's husband knocked her about too,

34:52

even though, quote, she's a clean little thing.

34:55

Too good for him, I think. The

34:57

last letter to Susan Pierce dated the

34:59

3rd of May, but with a post-damp

35:02

of the 10th of May included this

35:04

about Lena and Moncrief Anderson. Quote, I

35:06

would like to see some of Ted's

35:08

mates kick his guts out. She wouldn't

35:10

tell me as they row like cats

35:12

and dogs. He loves and dears her,

35:14

and she hates the sight of him.

35:17

Then there was this confused description

35:19

of the last time she'd apparently

35:21

seen Ted. Quote, I often

35:23

spoke to Ted and I told him he would

35:25

be getting into trouble, but he knew best, as

35:28

he thought. Even the day he

35:30

said goodbye to me, I put my arms

35:32

around his neck and cried to him to

35:34

stop with me, and he said, look Thelma,

35:36

I love you and you only, and death

35:38

is nothing when there's love. So I can't

35:40

put up with you telling me what to

35:42

do. Poor Ted, does he think of

35:44

my words now? As if

35:46

forgetting she was supposed to be Thelma,

35:48

Lillian had also written what sounded very

35:50

much like her, asking Susan

35:52

Pierce to have her husband beaten.

35:54

Quote, Anderson was going to hit me.

35:57

I would go to the police only Ted's and enough

35:59

bother with them. them. I would like

36:01

to see him get his guts kicked

36:03

out. Put someone up to kick Anderson

36:05

to pieces and I'll know nothing. You'll

36:07

know nothing. If Ted hangs I'll die.

36:10

Life won't be worth living." Lillian

36:12

Anderson was committed to stand trial

36:14

and transferred to Long Bay jail. The

36:18

case against her for Moncrieves murder began at

36:20

Sydney's Central Criminal Court on Monday the 18th

36:22

of June 1934. The prosecution

36:26

called the same witnesses police

36:28

and civilian who testified at

36:30

the inquest and

36:32

the letters were read again. If Teddy hangs

36:34

I will go with him. If people loved

36:36

him like I do he would be a

36:39

free man. If Teddy goes in I will

36:41

marry him in jail. I love

36:43

Teddy like I've loved no other man.

36:46

If people had gone black in the face before

36:48

they got to the police I would have Teddy

36:50

today. If Ted hangs I

36:52

will never live after he goes. Lillian's

36:55

defense called two doctors who'd examined

36:57

her at Long Bay jail. One

37:00

was the prison surgeon, the other

37:02

a Macquarie Street specialist. They

37:05

both agreed she was sane but that she had

37:07

the mental age of a 14 year old. This

37:10

posed not only the question of her

37:12

understanding right and wrong but whether a

37:14

woman of such supposedly dull intellect could

37:16

have concocted the story the jury had

37:18

heard in those letters. The

37:21

big moment came when Ted Morey still

37:23

under the sentence of death was called

37:25

to the witness box. Stand

37:27

up said Lillian's defense lawyer Mr.

37:29

Monaghan as he turned to his

37:31

client. Lillian rose to

37:33

her feet she and Ted stared

37:36

at each other. Mr. Monaghan

37:38

asked Ted have you ever seen that woman

37:40

in your life before? Ted said

37:42

firmly that he had not. Did

37:44

you ever know anyone by the name of

37:46

Lillian Anderson or Thelma Smith? Ted

37:49

said no. Ted

37:51

Morey was returned to Long Bay jail to

37:53

await his fate. Presumably

37:55

Mr. Monaghan meant to show through Ted's

37:57

denials that Lillian's letters were not nothing

38:00

but fantasy and thus lessen her

38:02

perceived motive for murder. And

38:05

the drama intensified when Mr Monaghan

38:07

called Joyce, Lillian's now 8 year old

38:09

daughter, to the stand. The

38:11

little girl was sobbing as she entered the witness

38:14

box. Lillian wept in the

38:16

dock, as did many women in the court.

38:19

A man in the jury box was even seen

38:21

to dabble eight tears. Whatever Mr

38:23

Monaghan had hoped to achieve with this,

38:25

he thought better of it. The child

38:27

had suffered enough and he said, quote,

38:29

I can't persevere with this witness, Your

38:31

Honor. To everyone's relief, Joyce

38:33

was taken from the court, her

38:35

cries echoing through the building. Now

38:39

Lillian Anderson took the stand.

38:42

Usually such testimony comprised denials that

38:44

the jury had already heard secondhand

38:46

via police testifying to what the

38:48

accused had told them in interview.

38:51

This wasn't going to be like that. Lillian

38:54

began, Your Honor and gentlemen

38:56

of the jury, I am absolutely

38:58

innocent of this crime. Then

39:01

came the bombshell. For

39:04

the first time, Lillian now claimed

39:06

that Percy Smith had come to

39:09

the Nurandara Common last December, which

39:12

contradicted what had been testified to

39:14

in the Ted Morey trial where

39:16

Percy had been placed on the

39:18

Nurandara Common and in the Anderson's

39:20

acquaintance in October and November. Lillian

39:23

was constructing a new timeline and

39:25

in it, Percy Smith and her

39:27

husband had argued. Percy

39:30

had left Nurandara Commons shortly after that

39:32

and a few days later, Moncrief had

39:34

gone after him. When

39:36

he came back several days later, Moncrief

39:38

refused to tell Lillian where he'd been

39:40

and what he'd been doing. Though

39:43

ominously, his shirt was bloodstained. A

39:46

few days after that, a letter came

39:48

for Moncrief. As he was

39:51

illiterate, Lillian read it to him and it

39:53

said, quote, Well mate, I got rid

39:55

of the turn out which you left me. I sold

39:57

it for so much, I've got six pounds on me.

40:00

I am enclosing you three pounds, and I

40:02

am keeping three pounds." This

40:05

unnamed correspondent went on, quote, "'You

40:07

are a bloody mug. Why didn't you tell me

40:09

what was in the wagonette? I got rid

40:11

of it to a fellow and told him to take it

40:13

and sell it, and I would send him a receipt through

40:15

the Wagga Post Office. And if

40:17

there is anything about it, I know nothing.

40:19

You know nothing, nor my mate.'" Lillian

40:22

said Moncrief had torn up this letter.

40:25

When Moncrief heard that Percy's body had been

40:28

found, he'd warned her to say nothing. Then,

40:31

in early January, when Detective Sergeant

40:33

McCray was approaching their camp on

40:35

Narandra Common, Moncrief had warned her

40:37

again to shut up. Lillian

40:40

told the court she'd wanted to tell the

40:42

detective about the shirt, but she'd been too

40:44

scared. Later, Moncrief had confessed

40:46

to her that after catching up with

40:49

Percy, they'd gotten drunk and had an

40:51

argument. Moncrief admitted to her

40:53

that he'd first hit Percy in the head

40:55

with a bottle of wine and then finished

40:57

him off with a tomahawk. Moncrief

41:00

had put the dead man in a

41:02

bag and then dumped him in the

41:04

river, making the mistake of leaving his

41:06

pair of blood-stained trousers behind. On

41:08

his way back to the rock, Moncrief said

41:10

he'd run into two men camped and gave

41:12

them the wagon and goods to sell. One

41:15

man was tall, and the other man was short

41:17

and small. Moncrief

41:20

had kept closed tabs on her when

41:22

they'd been in Wagga for the inquest

41:24

and then for the trial, ensuring that

41:27

she couldn't say any of this to

41:29

the detectives or to Ted Morey's lawyer.

41:32

On the night that Moncrief had been shot,

41:34

she told the jury, quote, He was drinking

41:36

terribly heavy. I comes home. He was arguing

41:38

the point with me. He smacked me across

41:41

the face. He had tea and the little

41:43

girl and Mr. Bowman had tea. I washed

41:45

up. Then they went to get the

41:47

water. She was abusive to her and

41:49

pushed her. But that was Moncrief,

41:51

quote, I was afraid of Anderson all

41:53

my life. I was married when I was young and

41:56

I was afraid of him. Lillian

41:58

had filled up the bucket. Quote,

42:00

When I stopped I heard a click, and when

42:03

I did I just happened to look and

42:05

I saw the rifle. I grabbed for the

42:07

rifle. When I did so I

42:09

did not know what happened, but if I

42:11

shot him it was accidental. Lillian

42:14

said she remembered nothing after that until

42:16

Detective Sergeant McCrae started questioning her the

42:18

next morning. He'd frightened her

42:20

and she'd told him lies. As

42:23

for the letters, she'd written them, but Moncrieve

42:25

had made her do it. It

42:27

stood over her, telling her the words to

42:30

write down. Lillian told

42:32

the court, quote, He said, I want to

42:34

get all the evidence I can against that

42:36

fellow that had the wagonette. He said, I

42:38

want you to write letters to Mrs. Pierce,

42:40

which I did. He told me the

42:42

things to put in the letters and not to claim my

42:44

own name. When I wrote them he

42:46

said, you are going to get into serious trouble. I

42:49

said, what for? He said, for

42:51

writing letters under a false name. Lillian

42:54

continued, No doubt I did put some

42:56

things in the letters. And a good

42:58

lot of it he told me to put in. He

43:00

said he wanted to get all the evidence he could

43:02

to clear his own shoulders when he told me what

43:04

he had done. Lillian

43:08

Anderson's convoluted tale captured headlines

43:10

and set tons wagging. Had

43:13

she hated her husband and thus murdered him

43:16

in cold blood and then lied about it?

43:19

Was this crime the culmination of the

43:21

deranged fantasy that she'd concocted in the

43:23

hopes of freeing Ted Morey? That

43:26

was the crown's argument. The

43:28

defense's argument was that the crown had

43:31

presented a weak and circumstantial case. The

43:34

letters and everything else to do

43:36

with Ted Morey were immaterial to

43:38

the crucial question. Had the

43:40

lillians shot her husband deliberately? No

43:42

one had actually seen her take the rifle out

43:44

there. No one had seen her pull the

43:47

trigger. Was she

43:49

simply a young wife who acted blindly

43:51

out of self-defense when her brutal husband

43:53

pulled a rifle on her with his

43:56

death nothing more than a tragic accident

43:58

and her lies simply the panicked

44:00

reaction of a woman in shock. The

44:03

jury retired to start considering their verdict

44:06

before the lunch break on the 19th

44:08

of June. Ted Morey's fate

44:11

had been decided in just under an hour.

44:14

Not so Lillian's. The

44:16

jury deliberated all that afternoon and then

44:18

all through the night. When

44:20

they filed into the court the next morning

44:22

they announced they couldn't reach a verdict. A

44:25

retrial was ordered. On Wednesday

44:27

the 25th of July, this time at

44:30

Wagga courthouse the case was heard again.

44:33

The following night the jury retired

44:35

and spent the dark hours deliberating.

44:38

In the morning the jury foreman announced that they

44:40

too hadn't been able to reach a verdict. While

44:44

this legal impasse continued, Ted Morey

44:46

sought leave to appeal against his

44:48

conviction. The argument was

44:50

that evidence had been admitted incorrectly and

44:52

that murder had not been proved by

44:55

the Crown. And obviously

44:57

if Lillian Anderson was to be found

44:59

not guilty it would suggest that the

45:01

jury accepted her story that Moncrief Anderson

45:04

had killed Percy Smith and given the

45:06

wagon to two men to sell, one

45:08

of whom might have called himself George

45:11

McDonald. Lillian

45:13

Anderson's third murder trial began on the

45:15

5th of September in Wagga court. In

45:18

her statement she told the jury she'd been

45:20

out there in the dark with Moncrief at

45:22

the trough when she'd heard the click of

45:24

the P-Rifle. Quote, I looked round and made

45:26

a grab for it. I never got it

45:28

from him. What did happen was an accident

45:30

as I had no intention of doing him

45:32

any harm. I never murdered my husband and

45:35

will say so to my dying day. The

45:38

judge told the jury they had

45:40

three options, guilty of murder, guilty

45:42

of manslaughter and not guilty. The

45:45

jury retired at 10.15pm and

45:47

like their predecessors they were in for

45:49

a long night. The

45:52

jury members returned to the court 12 hours later. They

45:55

hadn't reached a decision and asked for more

45:57

time. hour

46:00

later, they again asked for

46:02

more time. When his

46:04

third jury came back a third time on

46:06

the third day of the trial, they'd reached

46:08

a verdict. Lillian

46:10

Anderson was guilty of

46:13

the manslaughter of Moncrief Anderson.

46:16

Just as Maxwell said he'd never heard

46:18

of a worse case of manslaughter, and

46:20

he sentenced her to 20 years. With

46:24

remissions, the most that Lillian would serve was 14

46:26

years and 8 months. By

46:32

the time Lillian Anderson was

46:34

convicted, Australia was fascinated by

46:36

police attempts to identify another

46:38

murder victim found in the

46:40

Riverina. The body of the

46:42

Pajama girl, as she was known, had

46:44

been discovered, burned and battered and shot

46:47

in a culvert near Albury on the

46:49

1st of September 1934. Detective

46:52

Sergeant McCray was on the case and

46:55

Detective Constable Ramis was working leads in

46:57

Wagga Wagga. While Detective

46:59

Sergeant McCray's career would implode spectacularly

47:01

6 years later, Detective

47:04

Constable Ramis would continue investigating the

47:06

Pajama girl as he rose through

47:08

the ranks of Sydney's CIB. And

47:11

you can hear a little more about his

47:13

career in this month's bonus Patreon episode, The

47:15

Bones and the Beast. Since

47:19

the start of 1934, Percy Smith's wagon,

47:21

horse, dogs and other goods, the very

47:24

things that had set this double tragedy

47:26

of his and Moncrief Anderson's deaths in

47:28

motion, had been impounded by the police.

47:31

On the 20th of September, on behalf

47:33

of the public trustee, Scudder and Monks

47:36

conducted an auction in the yard of

47:38

the Wagga police station. The

47:40

horse and wagon again went for close to 11

47:42

pounds. Good

47:44

old Rover was bought by a Wagga

47:46

police sergeant who'd actually been involved in

47:48

the case and he paid 13 shillings.

47:51

Pete, the younger dog, fetched 7. After

47:56

Lillian Anderson's conviction, Ted Morey was denied

47:58

the wrong way. right to appeal. But

48:01

he did get good news when

48:04

the executive council commuted his death

48:06

sentence to life in prison, his

48:08

file marked, never to be released.

48:12

On Sunday 24th February 1935, Truth

48:15

put his case back on the

48:17

front page under the headline, Is

48:20

Human Glove Prisoner Guilty? The

48:22

paper claimed the case had been reopened in

48:24

secret. Now in Galbin jail,

48:27

Ted was still convincing when he claimed

48:29

he was innocent and that if only

48:31

George Macdonald could be found, he'd be

48:33

vindicated. Several of his

48:35

fellow prisoners inside on lesser charges had

48:37

reportedly vowed that when released they'd try

48:40

to find this man and clear their

48:42

mate's name. Even the

48:44

governor of Galbin jail supposedly supported

48:46

Ted and had made a statement

48:48

on his behalf to the Comptroller

48:50

General of Prisons. The

48:53

case wasn't to be reopened officially

48:55

and Ted's claims went nowhere. Seemingly

48:58

by chance that same issue of

49:00

Truth carried a letter from Lillian

49:02

Anderson who by this time had

49:04

also been denied an appeal against

49:06

the severity of her sentence. Lillian's

49:10

letter pleaded for mercy for

49:12

a reduced sentence so she could

49:14

raise her daughter Joyce. The

49:16

child had been asking why her mother

49:18

was in jail for so long. Lillian's

49:21

letter said quote because a judge

49:23

who did not understand sentenced that woman

49:25

or girl one would say to 20

49:27

years imprisonment for an

49:30

action done in self-defense. Lillian

49:33

did have a fan in Kate Lee,

49:35

infamous Sydney crime matriarch who told Truth

49:37

that it was a travesty of justice

49:39

that this poor woman who had the

49:41

mental age of a mere child should

49:43

have been given such a long sentence

49:45

in stir. Truth editorialised

49:47

at the end of the article quote,

49:50

that is the pathetic appeal of

49:52

Lillian Anderson, the woman who stares

49:54

hopeless into a future of 20

49:56

years behind steel bars and concrete.

50:00

As it turned out, she'd serve less than

50:02

10. Lillian was released in 1944 and

50:04

disappeared into obscurity.

50:08

Ted Morey was in for a much longer

50:11

haul. If he'd been

50:13

able to read, he might over the

50:15

next decade have seen his name in

50:17

the newspapers again as the Human Glove

50:19

became part of a post-war New South

50:21

Wales police exhibition that toured the state

50:23

and eventually went on display at Sydney's

50:25

Easter Show for the first time in

50:27

1950. At Christmas 1953, 20 years since

50:34

Ted had last been free, he was

50:36

released on a bond because he was

50:38

suffering tuberculosis. The conditions of

50:41

his release were that he get treatment at

50:43

an approved private hospital and that he not

50:45

run afoul of the law lest he be

50:47

sent back inside for the rest of his

50:49

life. Truth interviewed

50:51

Ted in his hospital bed in

50:53

a sanatorium at Waterfall. He

50:55

still protested his innocence, though he'd given

50:57

up hope of the man who'd called

51:00

himself George McDonald ever being caught because

51:02

he'd heard via jailbird scuttlebutt that the

51:04

man had been killed in an accident

51:06

at Hay. By the time

51:09

Truth caught up with him, Ted had taught

51:11

himself to read and write and he said

51:13

their article would be the first he'd ever

51:15

be able to read about himself. Ted

51:17

recovered well enough that he was released from hospital

51:20

and he went to live in Orange in the

51:22

Central West. Ted went

51:24

back to truck driving, though he didn't bother

51:26

with the license. He also went

51:28

back to drinking. It was

51:30

doing both of these things at the same time

51:32

that saw him back before the courts in March

51:34

1955. For these

51:37

relatively minor offences he was fined five

51:39

pounds, but the judge was left with

51:42

no choice but to send him back

51:44

to jail. As

51:46

far as I've been able to establish Ted

51:48

was to spend the next 22 years behind

51:51

bars, dying in November 1977 aged 80 in

51:56

the North Ride Psychiatric Hospital. As

52:02

for the human glove that had pointed its

52:04

finger at him, more than 40 years earlier?

52:07

It drew crowds at the Easter show for

52:09

a few years from 1950, but I've not

52:11

been able to find any record of it

52:14

since then. Most likely

52:16

it no longer exists. That's

52:18

because even when it was on display, one

52:20

newspaper report said it was showing signs of

52:23

wear and tear. So there's

52:25

every chance that the human glove,

52:27

like everybody else involved in this

52:29

case, has gone to its rest.

52:34

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