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hear from me for me

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to like speak outwardly to them like a bulletin

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and for them to know that I'm fine but

2:06

no exhortation of this two-way communication. I

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said, whoa, like what happened

2:11

to you that this would need to be the length

2:13

that you're taking? So there is a difference

2:15

between burnout and stress. Off the top, stress

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is more like a sense of urgency, physical

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toiling, like you know, my head is scrambled,

2:22

like I'm making mistakes, I'm clumsy, that stress.

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However, there is like lost motivation,

2:28

feeling helpless, down, etc.

2:31

The difference between burnout and stress, when you put

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them side by side, a little diagram, you might do that in

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your header on a paper, you realise

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that for the most part when we say that high school

2:39

is stressful, I can see that, right? You

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get over-engaged, you want to do a lot of everything

2:44

at once, it's creeping up on you,

2:46

you feel really reactive or over-reactive when your

2:48

parents are like, why haven't you studied with teachers? Like stop talking,

2:50

you like, you arc up, you are animated

2:53

in your frustration. There's a sense

2:55

of urgency, what am I going to do when I finish? No

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one's telling me, should I go to the counsellor, what's happening?

3:01

Then you might have anxiety

3:03

about it, but all of this is kind of like, it's

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a response to your environment, an obviously

3:08

stressful situation, you're responding accordingly.

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However, burnout is being in

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these obviously stressful environments

3:15

or not and disengaging. It's

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like the apathetic response. What

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would have inspired you previously

3:23

to engage in conflict

3:25

or to sort it out or to be proactive,

3:27

you no longer do that, you're disengaged. Also

3:30

you become quite stifled and distant in

3:33

your emotional expression, so instead of being the person

3:35

who's like, I'm going to do something about it, you

3:37

don't do anything about it. You can

3:39

feel helpless, you can lose your motivation, which

3:41

can lead you to feeling depressed and

3:44

it becomes emotionally toiling. So

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stress, physically toiling, a lot

3:48

reactive, burnout, emotionally toiling,

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introverted, introspective, like

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in a cave vibes. In a

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cave. Oh my word, do you

3:58

think you've experienced it? Absolutely. I'm

4:00

always burnt out. But there are times

4:02

when I feel like, because I'm not really good at

4:04

like checking my mind-body connection, I can't

4:07

figure out where it starts and end. Kind of like a dream,

4:09

you just end up in one and you're like, oh, that's so, whoa. And

4:12

then you wake up and you're like, was that even real?

4:15

Because today I feel fine. So what's the deal? What

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I was trying to figure out is like, is burnout

4:20

on the same spectrum as stress? Like

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you, like a lot of stress leads to

4:25

burnout. How does that work? And then I found

4:27

out that burnout isn't necessarily separate

4:30

from stress, but on like the furthest

4:32

end of the stress continuum. So like

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it's fine and normal to experience stress

4:37

regularly, a bit of anxiety that is responding

4:40

to a scenario. But the repetition

4:43

of that and the intensity of

4:45

that leads you to a far-right place

4:47

that can cause burnout if you

4:49

don't like, I don't know, resolve it. And

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then it says, when chronic stress

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leads you to experience more intense and severe

4:57

symptoms of stress, it

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appears your ability to function and that's

5:01

called burnout. It's like when your ability

5:04

to function isn't paired, you cannot do the things you

5:06

used to do with varying levels

5:08

of ease anymore because of the level

5:10

of stress you're under. Now I look

5:12

back and I think about parents and you observe

5:15

them being so stressed, they can't do anything.

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You're like, oh, that's wrong. Like what's happening?

5:20

You know, when you I remember like on

5:22

one occasion, if I didn't take like the chicken out of the freezer

5:24

and then when my mum didn't get mad, I was like, oh, that's

5:27

strange. What's that about? Burned out. And

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I found out from this article,

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it was more like a research paper, but

5:36

it was saying with the three main features of burnout

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are overwhelming exhaustion, cynicism

5:41

and detachment from the task and a sense

5:44

of not being productive, accomplished or effective.

5:47

And that's going to take you one to three years to recover.

5:50

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