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When I decided to start this podcast,
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I felt it was becoming harder
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and harder to know where to invest
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your time, money, and interest.
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Every day something new seems
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to be hyped as the next big thing,
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which is why I felt like
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a show like this one
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that cuts through the noise and skips ahead
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to the action and results was
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so badly needed. After all,
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Sometimes the next trend can quickly turn
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into the next flop. And when
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you're trying to get in early, making the
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right bets becomes even harder.
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But it's a challenge I love and
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it's where I spend most of my time
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as a venture capitalist. I've
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enjoyed discussing many of my areas
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of interest from real estate
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and wellness to the creator
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economy and parenting. I've
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talked with the best experts question
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my own assumptions and I've learned so
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much that I didn't know before. But
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in this episode, our season
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finale for first in line
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I wanted to put you in the driver's seat with
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me to explore what I think
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will have a big impact on our
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lives in twenty twenty three. From
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the excitement around AI
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and how the recession will affect
1:23
everything, I'll let you in on
1:25
the conversations I'm hearing
1:27
behind the scenes. This episode is
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also the last time you'll hear from me for
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a few months because I'll be taking
1:33
a break for maternity leave.
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I'm going to try my hardest to actually
1:38
get offline and focus a lot
1:40
of my attention on my new baby
1:42
girl. So since you
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won't be hearing from me for a while, I wanted
1:46
to put together a special episode that
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could tide you over. As promised
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in the first episode, I won't
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always get it right. But remember, great
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things tend to happen with the right insights,
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good timing, and a little luck.
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I think you'll find that this episode is
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packed with all three ingredients. And
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most importantly, I hope the tips
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I share in this episode along
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with everything you learned from some guests
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in my prior episodes will
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help you be first in line for the biggest
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trends that are just around the
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corner. Okay. I
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have to start with a prediction for twenty
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twenty three that was something
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we talked about a lot here in
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the last half of twenty twenty two.
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Artificial intelligence, better known
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as AI, or even
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ML machine learning for those of us here
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in Silicon Valley. There's
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the good, the bad, and the ugly
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parts of AI. On the good
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front, This technology is
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growing faster than anything I've
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seen in over a decade,
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even web three and block chain
2:50
and crypto, which we also talked about this
2:52
season. And it's getting into
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the hands of normal everyday
2:56
people who are starting to use it for
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amazing things. Whether it's a
3:01
creator or an artist using
3:03
it to supercharge their productivity
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workflows, engineers who
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are using it to check their code and
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even write some of the code for them.
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And all kinds of other professionals who
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are making better decisions because
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they now have a learning database
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that's helping them make those decisions. There
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is no doubt that
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AI is going to continue to
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be the name of the game in
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technology and in the consumer
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mainstream for twenty twenty three.
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And beyond. Here's my friend, Ami
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Gupta, cofounder of the AI
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tool pseudo
3:38
Right, sharing a sneak peek
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of what's to come. I
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think it's gonna be an evolution. I think
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it goes back to why there's so much happening
3:47
in this space right now, like why it's so exciting.
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And I think a bit
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like, okay, if you go back like forty years,
3:53
the Mac horizon, right? And the
3:55
Mac and Tosh brings desktop publishing to
3:57
everyone. And all of a sudden, you don't need
3:59
a newsroom or like a whole office staff to
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create a magazine or newspaper, you can
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actually do it with one person by themselves
4:05
using these like magical new tools. And
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it brought this, like, this power
4:10
of organizations and companies as relegated
4:12
just to them to, like, individuals, which is really really
4:15
cool. And that happened in, like, all these different
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spaces. It happened in music. You don't need a recording
4:19
studio. Now you just need a mic and some free software.
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It happened with photography. It happened across
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the board. And so I think what you're
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seeing right now just starting to begin
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is this very similar revolution
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where You
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don't even need to know how to take a photo. You don't
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need to know how to use Photoshop. You can just
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say what you want and it will
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do it for you. And eventually, it
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will create a storyboard for you. Eventually, it'll
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become a costume designer for you. Eventually,
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it will just direct and make this movie for
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you. And think we're getting closer and
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closer to that point where all you need
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is an idea. And if the idea is
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good, you can bring into life. One
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of my favorite new technologies that
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has just come out in the last couple weeks
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related to AI is something called
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ChatGPT. It's what
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everyone here in Silicon Valley
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is talking about. The website is
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chat dot openAI dot com.
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And basically, what it is,
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is kind of just like a
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smarter Google. You
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can put anything into this search box
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ask it to do something for you, write a
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question, and it will literally
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answer it or do the work for you
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instantly. You don't have to wait
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seconds. It's not a list of links like
5:29
Google search results. It's the answer
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you're looking for. For example, just
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to play around with it the other day, I
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said, I'm hosting a dinner
5:37
party with twelve people. Three
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of them are vegan, one of them is dairy
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free, one of them is gluten free,
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and one of them is paleo. Make
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me a list of recipes that
5:48
I can create to serve
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every single person at the dinner party and
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make me a grocery list I need
5:55
to create the recipe. It did it
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all in seconds. It was
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amazing. I've also asked it
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to write letters to my
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company, pretending like I'm making a
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big strategic change in twenty
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twenty three. It
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actually also knows how
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to tweet with your
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personality if you feed it
6:15
your Twitter handle. It
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knows famous people and
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can locate the tone of their
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voice and the types of things that they
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might
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say. It's really, truly
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incredible. However,
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there's a lot of questions
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around what AI is going
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to be used for over the next several
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years and who owns
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the data behind all of
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the stuff that AI is producing.
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This is where the bad comes in.
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AI is not regulated. There
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is a popular app in the last couple
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weeks that really went viral on Instagram
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called Lindsay, which
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was allowing you to upload photos
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of your and then it would turn them into cartoonified
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versions of you that really look like you and
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people were posting these all over their feeds.
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The problem is artists got really
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upset. Because apparently, Lindsay
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was feeding in a bunch
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of different types of artist,
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proprietary art. And
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using it to transform images of people.
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Clearly, there is a copyright infringement
7:18
in here. Clearly, there are copyright
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infringement everywhere, and
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this is the problem with AI. It's going
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to get regulated very quickly. And
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I do think it will continue to be a
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massive opportunity, especially
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for creators and professionals as
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to how we work faster and
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smarter and more productively. But
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I do think we're also going to have
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some trips and falls over the next year
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as we figure it all out. Alright.
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Prediction number two. I
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think that in twenty twenty three, a
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new social network
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will not just emerge, but will
7:55
actually go viral. The reason
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I think this is because a lot of people
7:59
are questioning what's happening to Twitter
8:02
right now if that's going to be a good thing or
8:04
a bad thing. Meta
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has a lot of craziness going
8:08
on inside its walls. And
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frankly, I think we can all agree
8:13
that we all just want a
8:15
social app that's actually good
8:17
for our mental health and less
8:20
addictive than every other community
8:22
out
8:22
there. I talked a lot about this
8:24
to people like Eva Longoria and
8:27
Saho Bloom! My last
8:29
year's resolution was, like, to to to
8:31
clean up my content. Feeds.
8:33
Right? Like, so I when
8:35
I was pregnant, I read a book by
8:37
Deepak Chopra. He gave me a book and he
8:39
was, like, be careful what you
8:41
ingest. Not just about what you eat, what you
8:43
ingest. Like, if I watch a scary
8:45
movie, my baby
8:47
inside of me doesn't know it's
8:49
fiction because my body is still
8:52
feeling fear. So you're like, just be careful what you
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read if I'm watching the news and
8:56
it gives me a little bit of anxiety.
8:58
Giving anxiety to my baby. Right? And
9:00
so he was, by the way, not just because you're pregnant.
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Like, in in general, you should really
9:04
curate what you're ingesting. And so
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I went through my feed, and I was like,
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why am I first of all, I had every news feed.
9:10
Right? BBC, CNN, the the
9:12
world news. Washington Post, New York
9:14
Times, and I was like, why do I have so much
9:16
news? I'm unfollowing the news.
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And then I I was
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like, I'm unfollowing mean
9:23
Twitter accounts. Like, if they were funny, they're funny,
9:25
but, like, they're kinda mean. And I was
9:27
like, I don't I'm gonna unquote I don't
9:29
want that in
9:31
my ecosystem. And
9:33
and then I found good
9:36
news movement. Right? And I was like, good news. And
9:38
fun stuff and beautiful inspirational
9:40
stuff. And now that's me. That's
9:42
my algorithm. I have
9:44
talked about this incessantly
9:47
in my job here in
9:49
venture capital and within entrepreneurship
9:52
circles. I think this is going to not
9:54
only impact us as
9:56
social media consumers. But
9:59
truly, if there is a new social
10:01
network that emerges, I wonder
10:03
how it will impact influencers,
10:05
and creators. These
10:07
are people who are banking their
10:09
lives and their income on
10:11
the current social media platforms.
10:14
And I don't know about you,
10:16
but from what I hear and what I
10:18
know being one myself, people
10:20
just aren't that happy doing this job,
10:22
having to feed the algorithm
10:25
every single day with
10:27
videos and content that goes
10:29
viral, there has to
10:31
be a better way. I was
10:33
recently at a comedy show with
10:35
Chris Rock and Dave Chappell.
10:37
And Chris Rock made a statement that
10:39
really landed with me. He
10:41
said, the biggest addiction
10:43
we have in America right now not
10:46
the opioid addiction and
10:48
all these other different addictions that you
10:50
hear about in the news. It's the
10:52
attention addiction. Everyone
10:54
wants attention. We went
10:57
from wanting to just love one another
10:59
to just wanting likes from one
11:01
another all day long. I
11:03
think this has to stop. There's clearly
11:05
an end to this game somewhere
11:07
and I truly hope twenty
11:09
twenty three is the year that we start to
11:11
see a little light of hope
11:13
emerge with a new network that's
11:15
good for us that establishes
11:17
depth of relationships and
11:19
that does not create the addiction
11:21
to attention that we all feel
11:24
every day right now. Okay.
11:26
Let's talk about web three.
11:29
My third prediction for twenty twenty
11:31
three is that there will continue
11:33
to be a lot of
11:36
dismissal of crypto
11:39
and web three technology. The
11:41
first half of this year was the
11:43
ultimate hype. The second half of this
11:45
year, we saw markets crash. We
11:48
saw crazy things happen
11:50
with companies and scandals
11:53
and posy schemes, However,
11:55
I'm still long.
11:57
I still truly believe
12:00
that what's driving this
12:02
next evolution of the
12:04
Internet is not
12:06
these crypto exchanges
12:08
where you can buy and trade
12:10
tokens and make a little bit of
12:12
money here and there and flipping NFT
12:14
in a day and get a boardape
12:16
or whatever, I believe
12:18
the innovation is the underlying
12:21
technology called blockchain
12:23
technology that is
12:25
letting people on the Internet
12:27
own their own stuff. In
12:29
the year's second episode, the brilliant
12:32
Kevin Rose shared one of
12:34
the best explanations of the blockchain
12:36
that I've ever heard.
12:37
If you think of information storage
12:39
as just being a database,
12:43
And traditionally, up until this
12:45
point, anytime we look
12:47
to see, like, digitally
12:49
who owns something, let's just say, a house. Like, you log in to
12:51
your Wells Fargo account or your bank and you
12:53
say, okay, there's my mortgage. It's
12:55
obviously stored in a database somewhere. There's
12:57
how much I owe on that mortgage.
12:59
You know, a lot of our our
13:01
lives have been converted into digital
13:03
identities, but it's always
13:06
by some third party
13:08
that's out there that you have to trust. Right?
13:10
So if you, you know, you trust
13:12
Google with your Gmail. Right? Like, they're the
13:14
ones that are actually storing that and housing
13:16
that. And they're doing this through,
13:18
you know, a massive database on the
13:20
back end. And so the blockchain for
13:22
me is just this way to say, Here's
13:24
a new type of database. It's more
13:27
public. The information
13:29
is available to everyone, meaning
13:32
that not your emails or anything like that. There's certain
13:34
types of information that you probably want in
13:36
some type of centralized storage or
13:38
locally or to host yourself or encrypted.
13:40
Right? But this is a way to
13:42
say, let's rebuild everything
13:44
from the ground up in a way
13:46
that the public is actually
13:48
owned versus big
13:49
tagging. So the social
13:51
networks don't own your content, people
13:53
don't own your writing, you own
13:55
everything that you are producing. And
13:58
not only do you own it, you
14:00
can transfer it with you across
14:02
different networks that you're logging
14:04
into, different websites that you're buying
14:06
things from, and earn
14:08
rewards and get
14:10
all kinds of perks and
14:13
community based assets
14:15
because of the stuff that you own and
14:17
the things that you do. And I know
14:19
that sounds obscure and
14:21
vague, but I truly believe
14:23
this is a future that we all kind of
14:25
want. We don't wanna just give
14:27
away our photos to all these social networks.
14:29
We don't wanna give away our thoughts
14:31
to medium and
14:33
blogging platforms. We want to
14:35
own all of our stuff and we wanna take it
14:37
with us and we don't want a thousand
14:39
passwords and we wanna be able to transact
14:41
with our money very quickly. We
14:43
want receipts of everything that we're
14:45
doing. We wanna be able to buy things in
14:47
simpler ways. We wanna
14:49
be able to share with different communities and
14:52
new ways. So I
14:54
truly, truly believe that we
14:56
are just starting out. It
14:58
will take a few more years
15:00
still. But in twenty
15:02
twenty three, the web three winter
15:04
will continue. And by the
15:06
end of the year, new
15:08
innovations especially in
15:10
the infrastructure layer
15:12
will become really
15:14
exciting for twenty twenty four
15:17
to create another new
15:19
rise of what we have
15:21
been calling this new chapter of
15:23
the Internet. On that front, I wanna
15:25
talk about a r and v r
15:27
augmented reality and virtual
15:29
reality. It's still just
15:31
barely gaining steam with
15:33
some devices out on the market, but
15:35
it's not mainstream yet. That
15:38
said, I do think next year in twenty
15:40
twenty three, people will start
15:42
to use these technologies more and
15:44
more. But I think these people that are
15:46
gonna be using them are,
15:48
like, professional trade workers.
15:51
Like, pilots using VR to
15:53
do flight school. Doctors
15:55
using AR while they're
15:57
in surgery. Interior
15:59
designers using these technologies
16:01
to figure out furniture placement
16:03
even if they work remotely. I
16:05
really am excited for some of
16:07
these technologies to hit the mainstream, but
16:09
I still think it's gonna take another
16:11
year, if not more, to do so.
16:15
Prediction number four for twenty
16:17
twenty three. The healthcare transformation
16:19
is going to continue. And
16:21
healthcare is such a broad word.
16:23
That means all kinds of things
16:25
to me. It means there are gonna be new
16:27
forms of on demand care,
16:30
people that you can talk to, doctors you can
16:32
talk to, specialists you can talk
16:34
to any time of the day, giving
16:36
you care, coming to your house,
16:39
clinics popping up in different places and
16:41
different towns, breaking out
16:43
of the sort of mainstream healthcare
16:46
system to serve you when you
16:48
need it and how you need it. I think
16:50
there will be new forms
16:52
of specialty care. I'm
16:54
selfishly excited about a company
16:56
called almond I just invested
16:58
in, which is basically creating
17:00
a new version of an OB
17:02
GYN clinic where you can
17:04
actually get seen
17:06
via telehealth, you can chat
17:08
with doctors on an app,
17:10
but you also can go into the clinic in real time
17:12
and get care for yourself. I'm really
17:15
excited also about a new
17:17
category of personalized health and
17:19
wellness. We talked a lot about this
17:21
on the show this season, but the idea
17:23
that now we have all of these
17:25
device who are creating data about our bodies,
17:27
about how we sleep, about things we're
17:29
eating, about our different types
17:31
of disease risk, and care for
17:34
things like COVID and flu and
17:36
all of that. And we're learning more
17:38
and more about our human
17:40
bodies. That we can actually get
17:43
personalized recipes for
17:45
success, for how we should be working out,
17:47
for the types of diets we should be for the
17:49
types of mental health treatments we should
17:51
be aspiring for, and I
17:53
do believe every single person
17:55
needs something different for
17:57
their
17:57
body. Twenty twenty three will be the
17:59
year that we get even more of this data
18:01
into the funnel to start learning
18:03
more about what each of us needs
18:05
to be at the top of our
18:07
game. Speaking of mental health,
18:10
I'm obviously long on that
18:12
category and there's so
18:14
much happening in this space. We
18:16
didn't get to it this season, but
18:18
I'm really excited about all the
18:20
research happening within the
18:22
psychedelic world ketamine,
18:24
new forms of mental
18:26
health treatments, digital therapeutics like
18:28
a video game that's actually
18:31
FDA approved to help cure
18:33
ADD. It is
18:35
mind blowing what is coming and I
18:37
can't wait to share more of this with you
18:39
very soon. Finally, prediction
18:42
number five for twenty twenty
18:45
three. I gotta talk about it. This thing that
18:47
everyone is calling the
18:49
session. It's here and I
18:51
think it's gonna continue for a little
18:53
bit of time. No one knows exactly how
18:56
long. But I really continue to
18:58
believe that the impact will be
19:01
serious. We already have seen
19:03
hundreds of thousands of people out
19:05
of work from layoffs.
19:07
I think there will be a lot more coming
19:09
in January of twenty twenty
19:11
three. And I'm
19:13
curious what all these people are gonna do. Of course, some of
19:15
them will get new jobs, but a
19:17
lot of them might actually
19:19
change careers. They might start
19:21
new side hustles. There
19:23
might be a new boom in entrepreneurship opportunities.
19:26
I'm really excited when
19:28
there is a recession, not because of
19:30
the recession itself. But
19:33
because of the way that it shapes
19:35
culture. In two thousand eight,
19:37
when we went through the last major
19:39
recession, we saw some of the biggest companies
19:41
on the Internet today formed
19:43
during that time. Companies like
19:46
Uber, and Pinterest, and
19:48
Airbnb, and all of incredible
19:50
brands today were
19:52
created in that time. And it's because
19:54
people learned how to be scrappy. They were
19:56
able to start from zero. There
19:58
are of the market for jobs, and
20:01
it was a fun time to
20:03
work because there is really nothing
20:05
else to do. So I'm
20:07
really curious to see what happens over the next
20:09
twelve months, especially as an investor who
20:12
invests in seed stage companies
20:14
that are just getting started. Even
20:16
though it'll take several years to know if
20:18
our bets were right. Speaking
20:21
of work, I do
20:23
believe that twenty twenty three will
20:25
continue to see more people going back into
20:27
the office or
20:29
quitting their jobs or changing
20:31
careers to only
20:33
work for a company that offers remote work. Will
20:35
people sacrifice life happiness
20:38
for a stable job? I
20:40
think Some will.
20:42
I also of course know that less
20:44
people will be spending in the consumer
20:47
retail environment And
20:49
I really am excited to see how resell
20:52
platforms will continue to rise in the boom
20:54
of a recession. You know, a lot
20:56
of times people say that in a
20:58
recession, bakeries and bars are the
21:00
two types of food and beverage
21:02
businesses that do the best.
21:05
People are sad. They're buying
21:07
carbs and they're buying alcohol.
21:09
It'll be interesting to see in twenty twenty
21:11
three what people are buying more of or
21:13
where they are spending their money if
21:15
they're watching every penny. Just remember,
21:18
economic downturns aren't
21:21
always so bad. They can produce
21:24
surges of creativity, a
21:26
lot of assumptions can be
21:28
rethought. And they
21:30
force companies who have
21:32
thus far been pretty bloated on their spending
21:36
to grow up a little bit.
21:38
So Next
21:40
year will be hard, but it will
21:42
be a catalytic moment
21:44
for the economy, for
21:46
all of us, and for a new wave
21:48
of culture. So those are
21:51
my top five predictions. There are
21:53
things I'm not mentioning, but
21:55
I want you to keep tabs on
21:57
just like I will be I'm off on my maternity leave.
21:59
Of course, we're going to deal with a
22:01
lot of tension with global politics,
22:06
election's misinformation, by the
22:08
way, this is where a lot of AI
22:10
issues might pop up, and so
22:12
much more geopolitically. I
22:14
don't even wanna get into that right now because it's
22:16
just a big huge bag of a
22:18
lot of unknowns. Another category
22:22
I'm watch chain but not
22:24
diving into deeply yet is
22:26
everything that's happening within
22:28
energy and climate. There are so
22:30
many really cool solutions to a lot
22:32
of problems we're facing, but
22:34
there are still a lot of problems we're
22:36
facing and a lot of really smart
22:38
people that I know are
22:40
putting a bunch of money to work and a
22:42
bunch of brains to work try to
22:44
solve them. I'm really excited about this category, and
22:47
I hope I can come back next year and
22:49
tell you more about what's going on
22:51
there. And then lastly, I
22:53
really am excited about the category of
22:56
education. There's so much new
22:58
technology that can help make you
23:00
smarter, faster. Like I
23:02
was telling you about before, there's
23:04
even a new chatbot that
23:06
uses AI to help
23:08
you code. I can
23:10
type in type of app I wanna
23:12
build with the type of
23:14
functionality I want it to have. And,
23:16
of course, I need to be specific and there's
23:18
nuances to everything I'm saying right
23:20
now. But AI can actually start coding
23:22
things for me. This
23:24
is remarkable. My eight year old
23:27
son is able to start
23:29
doing this. He can start building an The
23:31
other day, he started making a
23:33
book with AI. He literally
23:35
typed a paragraph about what he
23:37
wanted the cover to look like,
23:40
and the AI generator spit out
23:42
a bunch of options for this
23:44
cartoonified illustrated cover.
23:47
He wrote thesis for what he
23:49
wanted the story to feel
23:51
like. And AI spit out a bunch of
23:53
ideas and sentences he could use
23:55
in the story. He chose a bunch of the
23:57
sentences he wanted to use, added a
23:59
few tweaks to make it his own,
24:01
and then he used
24:03
AI again to append
24:05
photos. To each of these paragraphs
24:07
that he was writing for his book.
24:10
Literally, this weekend, I spent time with
24:12
him putting all of
24:14
this into a book generator platform,
24:16
one of those websites that makes photo
24:18
books and memory books and all those things.
24:20
And I'm hoping
24:22
that I a him Christmas time.
24:24
It's wild. What's possible
24:26
right now? So
24:27
follow the world of education
24:30
because all of us have opportunity to learn
24:32
things much faster than ever
24:34
before, and to go deeper on the
24:36
topics we truly care
24:38
about. We are going to be able
24:40
to supercharge ourselves in all
24:42
kinds of new ways. And of course,
24:44
I think this has a domino effect
24:47
As to, what does this all mean for?
24:49
Secondary degree programs, k
24:51
through twelve education, college,
24:55
what does education mean
24:57
anymore when it's getting
24:59
so good and so personalized to
25:01
so many people outside of a traditional
25:03
classroom. Again, I don't
25:05
think twenty twenty three is going to be
25:07
the catalyst here, but this is a
25:09
trend that is rising
25:11
very quickly and one to definitely
25:14
watch. So there you have it. A few of my
25:16
big predictions for twenty
25:18
twenty three Again, I might be right, I might be
25:20
wrong, but these are the things that are getting talked
25:22
about incessantly here in
25:24
Silicon Valley and beyond. And
25:26
I'm really excited to see how some of them
25:28
play out. As I told you, I
25:30
will be a little bit busy over the next
25:32
few months, but don't fret I
25:35
will be back and until then you can find me
25:38
at Brit on Twitter or
25:40
Instagram or shoot me a
25:42
message anytime you want and let me know
25:44
what you think are some of the biggest
25:46
trends happening for twenty twenty three and
25:48
beyond. Thank you so much for
25:50
listening this season. I hope you have a
25:52
wonderful rest of your twenty
25:55
two and gear up for
25:57
what I'm sure will be the most
25:59
exciting year yet.
26:01
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