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the Rumbel Studios in Washington, DC. I'm

1:00

going to be joined by two of

1:02

my colleagues to go over the work

1:04

of the day. And there was a

1:06

foreign aid bill largely constructed by Chuck

1:09

Schumer and Mitch McConnell some months ago.

1:11

It was the globalist dream boat of

1:13

ideas, everything from funding research and development

1:15

in other countries to a quarter of

1:17

a billion dollars for the World Bank

1:20

and a whole lot of money for Ukraine, not

1:22

just money for lethal munitions in

1:24

the fight, but the funding of

1:27

the Ukrainian government, about $14 billion

1:29

worth. So that was passed in

1:31

the House of Representatives at the

1:33

time. It received a very chilly

1:35

reception. We were more worried about

1:37

the southern border. We were worried

1:39

about America's growing bureaucratic

1:41

nightmare and what we had to

1:43

do to constrain that. And many

1:45

of us were deeply concerned about

1:47

spending, seeking a process that would

1:49

present single subject spending bills over

1:51

the typical continuing resolution omnibus structure.

1:54

So we find ourselves today taking up this

1:56

foreign aid bill. And here's what they don't

1:58

teach you in the future. social studies

2:00

class. Whenever a piece of legislation

2:02

of major import is considered before

2:05

the House of Representatives, before it

2:07

is considered, it has to be

2:09

a subject to terms and conditions.

2:11

Just like your iPhone is subject

2:13

to terms and conditions, every major

2:15

bill we consider that can pass

2:17

by majority vote would have

2:20

terms and conditions applied. Those would include

2:22

things like how long is each side

2:24

going to get to present debate, how

2:26

many amendments will be allowed, what type

2:28

of amendments will be allowed. In

2:30

some cases, which specific amendments can be allowed,

2:32

the rules discuss when the legislation will be

2:34

voted on and indeed when it will be

2:37

sent to the United States Senate for their

2:39

consideration. So there's a lot of things that

2:41

can be built into those terms and conditions

2:43

and in the end you have to vote

2:45

on those and that is called the rule

2:48

vote. So you're gonna hear my colleagues and

2:50

I today discuss how we voted on the

2:52

rule. What we believed is

2:54

that this foreign aid bill was so

2:56

America last and so bad we should

2:59

reject the terms and conditions to proceed

3:01

on to that bill and they weren't

3:03

good terms and conditions by the way.

3:05

They took the single subject bills that

3:08

we cared about and they lashed them

3:10

together for ease of passage in the

3:12

United States Senate and those terms and

3:15

conditions didn't allow for a lot of

3:17

the Republican conservative cost-saving amendments that we

3:19

care about. So here to discuss where

3:22

we go from here, how we're gonna

3:24

proceed on to this foreign aid bill where

3:26

the terms and conditions passed to great firebrains,

3:28

my colleague from Florida, Ana Paulina Luna and

3:31

my colleague from Tennessee, Andy Ogles. Both have

3:33

been on the show before, both have a

3:35

lot to say about what's going on in

3:38

Washington. Andy I'll start with you, just your

3:40

reaction to how the rule vote went today.

3:42

We voted no and yet it overwhelmingly passed

3:44

with Democrats. Well I mean I think that's

3:47

the important point is that this is a

3:49

Democrat piece of legislation because you had more

3:51

Democrats voting for it than Republicans and

3:54

so this is the

3:56

Schumer-Biden-Johnson bill that unfortunately

3:58

I think the... the

4:01

American public because we have

4:03

a southern border that's wide open. Fentanyl is

4:05

a crisis that's touching all of America. You

4:07

could have had a Ukraine bill that had

4:09

maybe remaining Mexico in it. Maybe then it's

4:11

palatable. I'm not saying that it is, but

4:14

there's things that we could have done to

4:16

make it better for the American people, but

4:18

instead they jammed this crap down our throats.

4:21

Ana, you voted no. You've been messaging

4:23

that conservatives should vote no. I thought

4:25

it was helpful that groups like the

4:27

Heritage Foundation and Club for Growth key

4:29

voted this issue asking conservatives

4:31

to vote no. At the end

4:33

of the day, fewer Republicans voted

4:35

for this rule than Democrats. How

4:38

do you assess how it shook

4:40

out? I look at this

4:42

and I think a lot of the Republicans that

4:44

would typically vote for a rule, one of their

4:46

biggest concerns that they kept hearing and some of

4:48

those were vets is that this rule,

4:50

these bills funded both sides of what's happening

4:52

right now with Israel and Hamas. If

4:55

you're looking at it from that perspective, I don't

4:57

think it was by accident. Even last night we

4:59

had a reporter reach out saying that there was

5:02

an article saying that, oh, well, how could you

5:04

vote against funding that helps your district with these

5:06

defense contractors? Well, it's pretty simple.

5:08

I'm not funded by the defense contractors. I'm

5:10

here to represent the interests of the American

5:12

people and my constituents. When you're seeing bills

5:15

that essentially go into giving money to Israel,

5:17

but then at the same time giving humanitarian

5:19

aid to Gaza, which could ultimately end up

5:21

in the hands of Hamas, you're basically funding

5:24

both sides of the war. That's exactly why

5:26

I held strong in that conviction. I think

5:28

a lot of people, people not in Washington,

5:30

understand that and share that same sentiment. What

5:33

are you hearing from your district about

5:35

how we proceeded

5:37

now onto this massive $100 billion

5:40

foreign aid bill at a time when our southern

5:42

border is wide open? A lot of people,

5:45

the common question is what's going on with

5:47

Johnson. I get that a lot. Why

5:50

is he doing what

5:52

he basically promised that he was going to do

5:54

the exact opposite of? And

5:56

so I try to tell people because this job, you

5:58

can get into the weeds on. parliamentary procedure. But

6:00

the fact is, is that when people

6:03

can't afford groceries, and you're paying for

6:05

pensions in Ukraine, that's the problem. We

6:07

shouldn't be doing that. So that

6:09

should be a bipartisan. Do you hear from a lot

6:11

of folks in your office about about

6:13

the bill and about the vote we just took? Yeah,

6:16

you know, we did a lot of messaging like

6:18

Ana did. And what people need to understand is

6:20

there's a lot of stuff buried in this bill.

6:22

I mean, you know, because we do find ourselves

6:25

if this goes forward, as it's constructed, that you'll

6:27

be on both sides of the conflict with Israel,

6:29

because we know we know this is a fact

6:31

that some of the money that goes into Gaza

6:33

is going to Hamas. You look at Ukraine, it

6:36

part of it funds the Third Regiment, that's

6:38

a neo Nazi group. So at

6:40

a time that Israel is under attack,

6:42

are we literally going to prop up

6:45

Nazis and in Europe? I'm guessing that's

6:47

a bad idea. I thought that the

6:49

left was against white supremacy until they're

6:51

funding the the groups of fighting in

6:53

Ukraine that have white supremacy embedded in

6:55

a lot of their imagery and messaging.

6:59

I guess they're willing to take US

7:01

taxpayer dollars to fund white supremacy abroad

7:03

while calling every maga grandmother that's, you

7:06

know, wearing a wearing a red hat

7:08

of white supremacist if they live across

7:10

the street. Or trying to fund programs in

7:12

the military to go after that when they should

7:14

be focusing on job and job readiness, not trying

7:17

to basically use the military to politically hunt opposition.

7:19

You talked about the way Speaker Johnson changed

7:21

and how we thought about this foreign aid

7:23

bill relative to the border. And I want

7:25

to get into that because it makes up

7:28

a lot of the feedback that I'm receiving.

7:30

Just regular folks are looking at this saying,

7:32

how are you guys prioritizing the eastern border

7:35

of Ukraine over the southern border

7:37

of the United States? And we know you

7:39

only have one half of one third of

7:41

the government. But folks want to see us

7:43

use leverage because I don't even think

7:45

a bill would have to pass to put

7:48

substantial downward pressure on the border. I think we

7:50

would just have to force Biden to return to

7:53

the Trump policies on the border. And then I

7:55

think people in the election would say, Oh, well,

7:57

we now know which policies work and which policies

7:59

are not. policies don't work. And

8:02

that used to be our viewpoint and we came off of

8:04

that. How do you think that

8:06

affects kind of our credibility as a conference? I

8:08

think we've lost credibility, but I actually had some of

8:11

the more moderate members at the back. So

8:13

we actually sit kind of in the center part of the conference

8:15

where you can kind of see everything but we had some of

8:17

the more moderate members coming into the background talking distancing. We

8:20

don't understand why HRT is not being attached to this

8:22

because even if somebody This is the border bill. This

8:24

is the border bill. I'm sorry. Yeah.

8:27

So you'll actually have some of these more moderate districts

8:29

whether they're in New York, but they're getting completely just

8:31

vested with what's happening with the illegal immigration. As

8:33

being from, you know, Florida, it's not so

8:35

bad. But in other parts of the country,

8:37

I mean, they are absolutely just getting destroyed

8:39

by this. And so I think

8:42

a lot of people are kind of wondering why

8:44

is it that it seems like there's coalition government

8:46

now on things that we didn't agree to that

8:48

we promised the American people we would be delivering

8:50

on earlier on in the year. And

8:52

then now you're seeing this pivot. And my

8:54

response to them is that it can't change. So

8:56

you as a member have to make the decision

8:58

like there seems to be this idea that you

9:00

can't do things like discharge petitions or vote against

9:02

the rule. All of that is brainwashing into making

9:04

you just a sheep. So if you really want

9:06

to come here, come up here and legislate, you

9:08

have to use those tools. And sometimes

9:10

that means bucking your own party. So in

9:12

just moments, there will be another vote

9:14

on essentially HR to what

9:17

Ana just described, there'll be another vote on

9:19

that. But we call that a show vote.

9:21

If someone tells you something is a show

9:23

vote, it is intended to get

9:25

people on record. But it is not an effort

9:27

to actually make law. It is not

9:29

an effort to congeal

9:31

into a policy outcome that would

9:34

be more beneficial for the American

9:36

people. So because we have a

9:38

lot of colleagues who I think

9:40

incorrectly voted for the terms and

9:42

conditions to proceed on to the foreign aid

9:44

bill, they're now creating in just a few

9:47

hours a show vote on a

9:49

lot of the features of HR to under

9:51

a suspension of the rules. So this will

9:53

not achieve two thirds of the vote. This

9:55

will not become law, but it will be

9:57

a way for people to go. tweet

10:00

and post about how

10:04

strong they are against the border, but it

10:06

doesn't really deliver an outcome or a

10:09

result. Andy, one of the things that

10:11

we talked about in strategy sessions

10:14

was attaching to any Ukraine aid

10:16

a requirement that only US citizens

10:18

vote in US elections. That

10:20

was something that the Freedom Caucus

10:22

really tried to inject into this process.

10:25

It ultimately was rejected by the speaker.

10:27

Talk a little bit about how you

10:29

would advise to use leverage on those points.

10:32

Yeah, I mean, look, we have

10:34

divided government. We have three branches of

10:36

government. And unfortunately, what we're seeing is

10:39

a pattern is where, and look, Speaker

10:41

Johnson is a friend of mine. I love him

10:44

to death. But that being said, he's making bad

10:46

play calls. And so when you're going to the

10:48

Senate and asking Schumer, what will you accept? You're

10:51

not negotiating from a position of strength. When

10:53

you're going to the White House and literally

10:55

asking Biden, what would you sign? You're

10:58

not negotiating from a position of strength.

11:00

And so we've got to start pushing

11:03

our agenda as the Republican Party, which is

11:05

to save the Republic. I mean, and you

11:07

kind of touched on it, this whole issue

11:09

of Congress has little

11:11

favorability ratings, what's our credibility like? But

11:14

on my show, we had this montage

11:16

and it was floating around Twitter or

11:18

X of Speaker Johnson. It's like

11:20

border, border, border. We're not doing Ukraine without border,

11:22

you know, it was border, border, border. And then

11:25

what do we end up doing? We're

11:28

going to do Ukraine without

11:30

functionally substantively, you know, closing

11:32

our southern border. That

11:34

is a problem. And so we need a

11:36

speaker, we need our speaker to stand up

11:38

and fight, fight, fight for our country.

11:41

And to me, that means not voting to

11:43

proceed onto something that should not be on

11:45

the agenda. One of our

11:48

Republican colleagues, Dr. Murphy, a congressman

11:50

from North Carolina, said that any

11:52

vote against the terms and conditions

11:55

rendered a Republican a political

11:57

terrorist. I disagreed with that.

12:00

I think that they can vote their

12:02

way. We can vote our way. But

12:04

Ana, your reaction to Dr. Murphy saying

12:06

that if we vote against proceeding on

12:08

to one of these bad bills, that

12:11

that somehow is like a war

12:13

crime. That breaks all the mores.

12:15

Yeah, that is exactly what I was addressing

12:17

earlier in that they try to bring you

12:19

up here, especially as freshmen, freshmen members of

12:21

Congress and try to brainwash you into basically

12:24

doing what they want you to do. But

12:26

you are then not representing your district, the

12:28

American people, especially like your perspective on it.

12:30

And that if you were voting for this,

12:32

you're actually voting for the invasion, because ultimately,

12:35

that's exactly what it's doing. These whole messaging

12:37

bills, I mean, you can also have a

12:39

perfect example. We voted to stop the

12:42

assault on the Fourth Amendment with FISA,

12:44

which was something that to

12:46

our disappointment went down in a ball of

12:49

flames. Do you think it was cumulative, by

12:51

the way? I mean, we were fighting so hard

12:53

on spending all of us. And

12:55

then we see them fight against us on

12:57

the Fourth Amendment. And now we see this,

12:59

like, I think had we

13:01

been successful along the way at single subject

13:03

spending bills or getting a warrant on FISA,

13:05

maybe we wouldn't feel as burned as we

13:07

do on this crappy foreign aid

13:09

bill. Well, all it's doing is just

13:11

exposing that these people they keep saying that

13:13

they don't want to take tough votes. Last

13:15

time I checked, the Fourth Amendment was not

13:17

a tough vote. You're supposed to defend that.

13:19

A last time I checked funding both sides

13:21

of the war makes you a sociopath. And

13:23

last time I checked, if you're calling your

13:25

fellow colleagues a terrorist because you don't like

13:28

how we voted, you're a beta male. Beta

13:31

male call out here on Firebrand. I already hear

13:33

that. Expect no less. I want to get into

13:35

the individual provisions. And I want to start with

13:37

the Israel bill. On the Israel bill, I

13:40

have concerns about deficit spending to

13:43

send money to any country, even if that

13:45

country is a great ally. And even if

13:47

that country is under attack, I think that

13:49

there are ways to make reductions in our

13:51

budget. What I believe is we ought to

13:53

defund the UN to get the money to

13:55

Israel since the UN has become such an

13:58

anti-Israel entity. That way you not only. Israel

14:00

by getting them the resources, but you

14:02

also help them by defunding one of

14:04

their adversaries, which would be the UN.

14:06

So you actually get value out of

14:08

the pay for. So I didn't

14:10

like the deficit spending. I won't be voting

14:13

for the Israel aid because there are no

14:15

offsets because the amendments, the terms and conditions

14:17

we would have liked to put in those

14:19

reductions to the UN in order to pay

14:21

for Israel were not allowed to be considered.

14:24

But Andy, you've done so many pro-Israel

14:27

bills on this

14:29

Israel vote that you're about to take.

14:31

How do you assess it? You see

14:33

this unprecedented attack from Iran? Walk through

14:36

your thinking. Yeah, I mean it's unfortunate that

14:38

you know what I personally advise

14:40

the speaker he could do is if you put

14:42

a clean Israel bill on the

14:44

house floor and you could

14:46

do a pay for and it could be

14:49

a non-controversial pay for. I mean there's clawback

14:51

COVID funds that are uncertain. There's wasted money

14:53

laying around everywhere up here. So you could

14:55

do a non-controversial pay for and it would

14:57

pass. Then you could put Ukraine

14:59

on the floor. You could attach

15:01

something like remain in Mexico and it

15:04

would pass. You could do something

15:06

for Taiwan. And by the way, they've already

15:08

spent 20 billion dollars on US weapons and

15:10

armaments that have not been delivered to them

15:12

because they're going to Ukraine, which is a

15:14

problem in and of itself because you have

15:17

China ratcheting up their aggression

15:19

towards Taiwan. And so there was a

15:21

path that was I think would have

15:23

been less painful but

15:25

it would it would have required the speaker

15:27

to really push back against the war hawks

15:29

and say here's the play call. You

15:32

may not get everything that you want but you're going

15:34

to get most of what you want and I think

15:36

as a conference we would have been more united. But

15:38

now with the the posture we honor are you voting

15:41

for the Israel provision of the bill? I'm

15:43

torn. I mean obviously I'm one of the outspoken

15:45

supporters of Israel. One of the most I don't

15:48

know if I don't know if there are a

15:50

whole lot of members who filed as many Israel

15:52

bills as you have. I had 18 amendments yesterday.

15:54

You want to guess how many were made in

15:56

order? Zero. That's right. So as

15:58

of right now I'm a lean no. but it's

16:01

a tough vote. But if those amendments would have

16:03

been offered, even if they hadn't been adopted, see

16:05

my theory is if you would have given me

16:07

a chance to go after the UN to try

16:09

to help Israel or to vote on some of

16:12

the Ogles amendments, I might have been more inclined

16:14

to vote for the overall deal but the fact

16:16

that we're forced into borrowing money from China to

16:18

give it to Israel is just such a

16:20

bad way to think about it. How do you think about it, Repluno? I'm

16:23

torn right now mainly because I mean, you

16:25

go back to the UN, the UN also

16:27

too is guilty of abuses against women. I

16:29

mean, literally most of the countries on the

16:31

UN Human Rights Council, which is just so ironic, have

16:33

literally had some of the worst policies with

16:35

women ever. But I mean, you look at

16:37

the whole process and the way that they

16:39

handle this and that we can't openly amend

16:42

this and that it has to go through

16:44

the speaker's office and they're effectively governing by

16:46

martial law is kind of what

16:48

I look at it as. And so I'm

16:50

at the point now where I obviously support our allies,

16:52

but it's like, how could you expect us to then

16:54

vote for funding on a bill that actually has funding

16:57

contained that's gonna help places

16:59

and individuals that are going to hurt Israel in itself? You

17:01

were basically funding the slaughter of Israelis. And I said that.

17:04

And I know that this is highly

17:06

technical, but those terms and conditions again,

17:08

they weave all this together. You don't

17:10

like that they weave the Israel money

17:12

to the Gaza aid money. We all

17:14

don't like that it weaves this money

17:17

to the Ukraine. It's not as if

17:19

we have the opportunity for a vote

17:21

on Israel that would only be about

17:23

Israel because the terms and conditions tether

17:25

Israel to Ukraine, which is kind of

17:27

where I wanna go next. The

17:30

60 billion here for Ukraine,

17:32

the entire United States Marine Corps

17:34

is 50 billion. So we could have

17:36

another Marine Corps and $10 billion in

17:39

our pocket, or we could do this

17:41

bill 14 billion plus

17:43

for direct government support for Ukraine. I

17:46

also think that even the armaments risk

17:48

escalatory accident because we have not yet

17:50

heard from the Biden administration what winning

17:52

looks like. When I was asking some

17:54

of their senior officials And

17:56

armed services, they were saying we were gonna fight

17:58

until they repatriated Crimea. Which is crazy.

18:01

So on the Ukraine vote. And

18:03

a haven I'm gonna. Honor.

18:05

Elena are at any different reasons are kind

18:07

of aligned with I. See a thing as

18:09

an icy kind of how many people in this

18:11

as a can. I actually physically went to Poland

18:13

and I met with Ukrainian parliament. I met with

18:15

their speaker. And. They literally told us

18:18

in a bipartisan delegates and they demanded as

18:20

twenty five such by the way. Ukraine

18:22

shows to not join Nato in the nineties.

18:24

The Bbc as article on our I know

18:26

the last month's argue that second half and

18:28

that actually happened. He had an opportunity they

18:31

did not join, therefore wiser Our responsibility to

18:33

then give them our tax dollars are funny

18:35

or protections. When they chose not to do

18:37

so on. that's my main thing. And then

18:39

a second thing is is that they told

18:41

us that they wanted to create a mercenary

18:43

army. It's awesome the equipment that we were

18:45

giving them. I'm sorry

18:47

that like we should not be funny. Mercenary.

18:49

Army period while another

18:51

controversial statement. As not hundred or so

18:54

i had all these people blu tack last the

18:56

i think that their boss actually on twitter act.

18:58

I try to you know com for a said

19:00

there's like i don't care I'm not sponsored by

19:03

the government of Ukraine, I represent the American people

19:05

and I don't want mercenary army seminal. Are

19:07

actually as more college and conference Which are

19:09

you worried that in Ukraine's are going to

19:11

run on a man before they run of

19:13

bullets which was root for But we have

19:15

to look at the math years. And

19:17

I your to me to don't always be mercenaries

19:19

willing to fight. See that I thought Mammoth Springs,

19:21

what are we to go? Let's. Get

19:24

a bunch of Africans and drop him

19:26

off in Europe to n given weapons

19:28

and it all of the name of

19:31

peace and defending democracy doesn't was on

19:33

Very democratic to me. Well I mean

19:35

even if you wanted list let's say

19:37

hypothetically I wanted to support you claim

19:40

right? I can in good conscience vote

19:42

to send them money. Lake and Riley

19:44

is dead. Because. Of the southern

19:47

border is roughly three weeks ago there's a

19:49

fourteen year old girl raped in Virginia by

19:51

an illegal because the southern border is open.

19:55

Three. weeks ago fourteen or a girl and louisiana

19:57

was raped by an illegal because the southern

19:59

border is open. We've caught 300 terrorists

20:01

at the southern border. There's an Iranian

20:03

hitman loose in our country that we're

20:05

trying to find who has a hit

20:07

list of American politicians because of the

20:09

southern border. Enough is enough. So if

20:11

I have to choose between America and

20:14

another country's border, I'm going to choose

20:16

America. It's a pretty simple calculation in

20:18

my book. Yeah. And I just think a

20:20

lot of people at home feel

20:23

like we don't really care about them as

20:26

we should, as the representatives, if we vote

20:28

for this stuff. Does that thinking

20:30

also apply to how you see this Taiwan

20:32

vote? I mean, we're all anti-China. We want

20:34

to make sure we deter China, this

20:37

Taiwan package. I'm still undecided on. To

20:39

me, I would have liked to have

20:41

seen reductions in other areas of the

20:43

budget. I keep coming back to that,

20:46

and that shapes my thinking. But you

20:48

want to persuade me to vote yes on the Taiwan thing or not?

20:51

As we read the bill, and we'll double check

20:54

this, but there's a provision in there that allows

20:56

Biden to sweep the money for

20:59

Taiwan into Ukraine. Oh,

21:01

so there's a little bait and switch point on

21:03

there. That's a nice little nugget. Yeah, right. So

21:06

details matter, folks. Details matter. Yeah, that is so

21:08

why you're breaking news here. What do you think,

21:10

Dawn? Well, I'm where

21:12

you're at. But now that this is just more money

21:14

for Ukraine, unless we can get something in an amendment

21:17

that would actually make it permit, which we won't be

21:19

able to, I'm going to lean on. Man,

21:22

and then it will all go over to the Senate.

21:24

And I was really encouraged

21:26

that we had JD Vance and

21:28

Mike Lee, Senator Tuberville, so many

21:30

others trying to stand with House

21:33

conservatives to focus our

21:35

priorities on what you just laid out on the

21:37

border. We

21:39

are, at times, outcasts in

21:42

the House, and at times outcasts in our

21:44

own party, because we aren't

21:46

bought and paid for with

21:48

the lobbyists and special interests that seem to

21:50

pull the strings of a lot of our

21:52

colleagues. We actually represent our districts and our

21:54

constituents. And to me, it is so refreshing

21:56

to have a little group of senators who

21:58

I think are most. motivated the

22:00

same way. Talk a little bit about

22:02

that bicameral partnership. Well, you know, I

22:04

do believe this is fairly unprecedented for

22:07

that many senators to weigh in with

22:09

House Freedom Caucus. Feel free to

22:11

correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll go back

22:13

to our founding fathers. You know, they were, there

22:15

was a small group of individuals that believed in

22:17

a dream of a republic, a free country. And

22:20

we have to hold onto that. And we have

22:23

to respect their vision. And we're protected by the

22:25

Constitution of the United States, but every single day,

22:27

this town tries to chip away at that. But when you

22:30

go back to FISA, and where we know

22:32

there's been over three million queries, so the

22:34

FISA bill, essentially, that's the

22:36

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that is designed

22:38

to spy on people like the 9-11

22:40

terrorists, right? But they're spying

22:43

on Americans. We know this. That's

22:45

not campaign speak. That's truth. And yet, they

22:47

pass it, and they ignore the Fourth Amendment.

22:49

And so I'm encouraged that they're willing to

22:51

stand with us to be so bold. And

22:53

my hope is that when we win the

22:55

Senate, and we win the White House, and

22:57

we have the House of Representatives, we can

22:59

get transformative change done in this town. And

23:02

we will be the tips of the spirit getting it done. I

23:05

want to shift gears and talk now about what all

23:07

these reporters have been bugging me about, this motion to

23:09

vacate. And here's my perspective.

23:11

First of all, Joel, are you watching the

23:13

live stream right now? OK,

23:15

yes. Our live stream

23:17

is basically a motion to

23:19

vacate piranha pool most

23:22

of the time. And you

23:24

know, they're pretty active about that.

23:27

So what's the feedback? Folks want

23:29

to know about the vacate Johnson

23:31

movement? Yes. Firing

23:34

Johnson. So

23:37

the answer is, so the sentiment on the live

23:39

stream is, why aren't we firing Mike Johnson? Stop

23:41

being weak. And that's on the Rumble chat? Or

23:43

where do we get the Trump? All

23:45

platforms, all fired up. OK, so here's

23:47

my perspective on the motion to vacate.

23:49

When I filed the motion to vacate,

23:52

I thought, War-gamed,

23:54

strategized about how a

23:56

four-seat Republican majority would

23:58

then re-elect another. Speaker: Because

24:00

it's not enough to have the votes

24:02

to remove somebody, you have to actually

24:04

replace them with somebody else and. I.

24:08

Really? Really took great care to

24:10

promise this audience an entire country

24:12

that under no circumstance would there

24:14

be a democrat speaker of the

24:16

house. I knew their my that

24:18

a few the maybe a little

24:20

if he would they vote for

24:22

maybe a Josh got Haim or

24:24

style democrat or a Trone style

24:26

democrat or but indeed I'd I

24:28

did not believe that the Prisoner's

24:30

Dilemma. Of a for seat majority

24:32

would allow five or six to be able

24:34

to break off together that the or that

24:36

that wouldn't be available. But. Here is what

24:39

I regret to inform you. I. Do

24:41

believe in a one seat majority.

24:43

There could be one or two

24:45

or three of my colleagues who

24:47

would take a bribe in one

24:49

form or another in order to

24:51

deprive the Republicans have. A. Majority

24:53

at all. And let me tell

24:55

you what a democrat speaker looks

24:57

like. They're. Lead off hitter will

25:00

be declaring Donald Trump and insurrectionist and

25:02

setting up a barrier to him being

25:04

able to become the president. I'd states

25:07

if he's lawfully illegally elected as I

25:09

expect, he will be still be there.

25:11

Leaderless hitters and then the chaser to

25:14

that shot will be a massive spending

25:16

package. It looks a lot more like

25:18

the American Rescue Plan. They will blow

25:21

past every concept of every kept ever

25:23

imagine. You'll You'll be looking at universal

25:25

basic income. You can be looking at

25:27

packing the Supreme. Court. And so

25:30

the risk. That. One or

25:32

two. Of. My corrupt republican colleagues

25:34

might take a bribe. Take.

25:37

A walk. Sane. And

25:39

ailments and flip this thing to

25:41

the democrats is is a. Risk.

25:44

That is too high for me at this

25:46

time. But Ana I want to heads you

25:48

are. Motion and A directly on

25:50

what we're hearing right now. Sell

25:53

ads and com and sell. I

25:55

heard that Land. And

25:57

landing less faith homes. And.

26:00

Her news. That. There will

26:02

be immediate resignation of a couple of

26:04

more moderate members of Congress. And.

26:07

Any event that that happens,

26:09

that ultimately means. Is. As

26:11

go to a democrat speaker. And.

26:14

So. We're in a

26:16

predicament. I do not like or support what

26:18

my Johnson has doing and I think he

26:20

has absolutely gone back on what he promised

26:23

us. By. Isis time. That

26:25

is no kidding a possibility. And

26:27

as a result to that, I'm

26:29

hoping that that doesn't move forward.

26:31

Into your thoughts your i would agree

26:33

with both of you have to tommy

26:35

of of emotions Vacate is ill times

26:37

over think it does result in as

26:39

be unit in a worse place but

26:42

from a both I'm an election standpoints

26:44

and the potential losing the house and

26:46

so I'm on. Others were trying to

26:48

tamp down the talk of a motion

26:50

to Vacate. I stay focused on the

26:52

job at hand and looks are we

26:54

lost the fight today. But. There

26:56

are other fighter heard he never give up again

26:58

to go back to the founding fathers that there

27:00

were nights work with a knife was dark and

27:02

hope was lost but they continue to fight, they

27:04

continue to pray in a continue to do the

27:06

right things and that's what will continue to do.

27:09

You. Know on. I noticed that a lot

27:11

of the members of who have found themselves

27:13

recently and competitive Republican primaries voted no on

27:16

the rule of People have never voted no

27:18

on a room with some other know our

27:20

were voting no on the rule and in

27:22

in that spirit and is talking about you

27:24

know of. Of

27:26

seeing the fight ahead. Are.

27:29

I don't believe this team can save the

27:31

country. I. Believe fundamentally, there

27:33

has to be a different republican

27:36

team that is. Focused.

27:38

on the border on the single subject

27:40

bills are on the process reforms that

27:43

we've been fighting for since the two

27:45

of you got to congress and this

27:47

team doesn't want that what did he

27:49

wants his the the massive bills to

27:51

three thousand page bills you know jammed

27:54

together were no one's really responsible they

27:56

want one hundred billion dollar foreign aid

27:58

without the type of itemized

28:00

review that you and Andy have been

28:02

talking about and so do you share

28:04

that sentiment that the fights over the

28:07

horizon? Yeah and I think that we actually have

28:09

this is growing because I think we have an awkward you're

28:11

seeing a an identity crisis within

28:13

the GOP right now currently and I think

28:15

that a lot of people that are resigning

28:17

are those more moderate members remember I just

28:20

want to remind people too we had timed

28:22

resignations that would bring this majority to a

28:24

one or two seat majority it was intentionally

28:26

done okay so with the opportunity that

28:28

we have ahead to get better people

28:31

into office don't just you

28:33

know get frustrated and shut down get

28:36

involved and send us better people because

28:39

as you're seeing time and time again the votes are showing

28:41

that there is a small group so we'll

28:43

fight for your constitutional rights but then there's

28:45

a uni party that exists and

28:47

I will say that there are some Democrats too that

28:50

will vote with us on the issues of the force

28:52

of amendment but they even have their own unit party

28:54

that's working against them so please send

28:56

us different people and

28:59

earlier like when there was this big CNN

29:01

piece about how a lot of Republicans were

29:03

choosing to not run reelection and they blamed

29:05

me for making the place so miserable for

29:07

making people actually take votes and do a

29:09

lot of the open amendment work that we

29:11

have been fighting for and

29:13

let me just walk you through the

29:16

economics of how this could work in

29:18

a vacate situation to flip control of

29:20

the Democrats let's assume you're a Republican

29:22

and you've already announced that you're not

29:25

seeking reelection you make a hundred and

29:27

seventy you know five thousand bucks

29:29

a year and and

29:31

then and then you say okay well I'm

29:35

gonna be going off to this consulting firm

29:37

or this media job and let's say that

29:39

opportunities around four hundred thousand bucks a year

29:41

so I'm set to go to that it's

29:43

gonna be great finish out my term do

29:45

that all is well and good and

29:47

all of a sudden that employer calls you up and says

29:49

well turns out we

29:52

need you right now and instead

29:54

of that four hundred thousand dollar contract that you

29:56

were gonna get because we've got so much work

29:58

for you to do you now and because

30:00

it's so important right now, we'll pay you $2

30:03

million to leave. So now

30:05

you're looking at a $1.6 million windfall and

30:07

people are saying, huh, is it worth $1.6

30:10

million just for me to stick around in my $175,000

30:12

a year job for

30:15

a few extra months, or do I take the

30:17

payoff when I've been making $175,000 a year

30:21

and go do that? I

30:23

find this deeply disgusting

30:25

and unsettling, but you deserve

30:27

to know how a

30:30

vacate scenario with one or two or three

30:32

people. I'm not, you don't have to win

30:35

with a majority of people doing

30:37

that. You're risking potentially

30:40

having a Hakeem Jeffries speaker of the

30:42

house that there might be some

30:44

temptation among some to do that who have no

30:46

plans to come back, who don't want a political

30:48

future, who basically just want their golden parachute. So

30:51

keep that in mind. Joel, are they buying it

30:53

or they think they think we're squishes? None

30:58

of you are buying it. You want, you want

31:00

the vacate. That's the truth though.

31:02

Unfortunately, we do not have. Cope

31:04

and feed, audience. Cope and feed.

31:07

It's the truth. And we

31:09

owe you that and nothing else. So

31:12

Ana Polina Luna, how do people follow you?

31:14

You have built such an incredible platform. My

31:17

wife Ginger follows all your accounts and you

31:19

break down what we're doing in Congress so

31:21

well on Instagram and everywhere else. So how

31:23

can people stay up to date? On my official accounts

31:26

it's Rep Luna and then on my personal where

31:28

I can give a little bit more commentary and

31:30

filtered is at Real Ana Polina. And

31:33

you have launched a new show

31:35

that is terrific. What's

31:37

the show? How can folks get to it and

31:39

subscribe? Well, it's restoring the Republic. It's

31:41

on the official side. So you can go to Rep Ogles

31:44

or on the unofficial side at Andy

31:46

Ogles. But, you know, I like you.

31:48

I tend not to have a filter.

31:50

It does get me in trouble sometimes.

31:53

But at least you know where I stand on

31:55

the issues. And I think people appreciate that. And

31:57

so, you know, yesterday on the show we played

31:59

that montage. of Speaker Johnson, again, who's a

32:01

friend of mine, but people deserved to hear from

32:03

his own mouth his words, what he said he

32:05

was going to do. Meanwhile,

32:08

the actions speak louder than

32:10

words because today and tomorrow will

32:12

reflect his true action.

32:15

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