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Hello making to finish shots daily. In today's
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episode we tell you about the latest lawsuit
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against Apple and the U S. Storytelling
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is quite a useful skill. You.
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Can revert dealer and anything and persuade
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people to believe you. You can get
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the leader or listener to side with
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you and that's what the Us Department
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of Justice has attempted. Know when it's
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slap The lawsuit against Apple. A couple
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of days ago, the eighty eight page
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document wasn't burdened with legal ease or
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jogging. Rado the deal G or the
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Department of Justice decided to tell his
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story a story of Apple's dominance which
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begins like this: Caught. In.
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Twenty Ten or Top Apple Executive emailed
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Apple's then Ceo of what an Ad
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for the new Kindle Eat Edo. The
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ad began with the woman who was
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using I Phone to buy and read
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books and the Kindle app. She then
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switches to an Android smartphone and continues
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read her book using the same kinda
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lap. The Executive wrote Jobs. One message
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that can be missed is that it
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is easy to switch from I phone
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to Android. not fun to watch. Jobs
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was clear in his response. Apple would
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force Devil. Opposed to use it's payment
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system to lock in both developers and
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users on it's platform or many years
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Apple has repeatedly responded to competitive threats
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like this: my making it harder are
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more expensive what it's users and developers
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to leave then by making it more
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attractive for them to stay on court.
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And. That's enough to grab your attention and
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think oh, is Apple's ecosystem shady and
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illegal? Is the just apply to stop
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users from switching to Android if they're
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tired of Apple. So after planting got seed
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of doubt the deal g doubled down
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on it and we're going to tell
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you what t r of the find
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most interesting allegations. Number. One.
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Apple. Degrades cross platform messaging
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apps. It. Ready ready to them
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go. Made an offhand remark at a tech
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conference and he's probably regretting it now because
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the Department of Justice has used it to
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prove a point. We will tell you what
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that was it a minute, but for some
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background. so Apple has its. One messaging app
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called I'm At It is Twenty Eleven People
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use it to send text, images, videos and
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locations and you can think it through at
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Apple laptop and I pad to and like
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a regular as the Mets which tablet or
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what the mobile network providers infrastructure. This messaging
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service would rely on the internet as a
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thing. As Apple decided that it would not
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create an Eye Messages app for Android users
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of Windows users it would be for Apple's
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use those Sure You could argue that that
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other tools like what's have these days so
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shouldn't matter. but as popular tech you tube
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or. Mk be hit. d pointed out
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most people simply use the default apps
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whether it's for browsing office sending messages.
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So when an I phone use on
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the Us picks up the phone message
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someone, they're probably going to click on
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I message to do this and you're
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the problem. When the I phone user
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messages another I phone user through I
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message. they get all the features such
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as read receipts and the messages show
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up in blue bubbles. What? Heaven forbid
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the messes an Android user because then
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the I'm as as reverts to regular
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estimates that's not cent or the Internet
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on it loses all the features, the
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reactions, the more these and everything. It
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also means an Android user can't do
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any be part of a group chat
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with other I phone users edo. What's.
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Worse, Apple discriminates against Android users
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ensures the message in a green
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bubble. Yes, That's the infamous
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blue of it was his brain to the
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debate. and with nearly nine or ten teenagers
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to the Us getting an I phone you
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would be left out of the social communication
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Socal if you were an Android use of
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you'd be ostracized and Nord been wants to
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be the odd one out, right? So it's
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no wonder the Department of Justice said in
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his lawsuit that Apple set obstacles to I
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phone families giving the kids Android phones. Or.
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What it in cook say at a conference. Ah,
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One person, the audience asked cook if Apple
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would fix the I phone to Android messaging.
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They said it's tough not to make it
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personal, but I can send my mom certain
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videos. On. Cooks response was by
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a mom and I phone. That.
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Exchange makes his way into the lawsuit
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to. Number. Two. Apple.
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Ban cloud streaming game apps if you're a
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mobile game or if you're a mobile game
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or you know that you need to howard
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top end devices massive computational by to get
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the game to run smoothly or else you'll
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be left to the poor quality expedience. And.
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Get that sort of bar? You need a
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high performing smartphone to go with it. Something
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like the I phone of course. What? Over
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the years the idea of gaming has scenes.
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gaming moved on to the cloud with Microsoft
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X box cloud gaming and and videos G
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Force Suddenly you didn't need a top of
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the line for the game anymore. All the
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processing would take place in a data center
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somewhere and you could game easily with the
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law and piece of hardware with the fast
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internet connection. That was a problem
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for Apple because as a Department of Justice
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said in his lawsuit, Apple fjord a world
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where all that matters is who has the
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cheapest hardware and consumers could buy an Android?
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put twenty five bucks at a garage sale
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and have sorted cloud computing device that works
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fine. Apple was afraid that cloud gaming would
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mean that people didn't need high end devices
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for gaming and people wouldn't find a reason
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to upgrade the afford to one with new
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high speed processes as well. So. The
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I phone fifteen I'd seeing next level
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performance in mobile gaming just wouldn't have
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the same effect. But. It wasn't
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just that, but it's also about revenues
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because a user could simply subscribe to
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the cloud gaming so was get access
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to multiple games. That means Apple would
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get less of a cut of the
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gaming revenue. It. Would get a cut
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of subscription revenue but lose out on
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a more lucrative a nap purchases for
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individual games. So. Apple did the
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unthinkable. It. Banned cloud based
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games. Now. That doesn't seem right, does
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it? Allegation. Number to the. Opposite
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Brzeski functions of third party smart watches. look
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around you and tell us when was the
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last time you saw someone were a regular.
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I Love watch. You know, the one with
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proper numbers inscribed on the face of it?
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I'm the to moving hands at least it's
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hard to remember Really everyone wants a smart
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watch and if you want an I phone
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and want a smart watch, you're gonna have
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to get an Apple Smart. Watch a
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know. It's not because you really wanted,
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but is because Apple is ensured that other
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smart watches don't work well with the I
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phone. The Great. Thirteen When
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Apple started offering users the ability to
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gonna get I phones with the body
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smart watches and they uploaded access to
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those developers that the Apple Notification Center,
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service, calendar, contacts and your location might
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and ready for. the Apple began his
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journey with the Apple Watch and dial
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back on all of this access. So.
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Third party smart watches as connected to
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the I phone contracts bonded notifications that
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except the calendar invite from the of
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Watch What? it's not just about watches
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to be honest your something from a
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podcast featuring Deck that idol Casey Newton
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who says. Court. If you're
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ever tried to use a non airport bluetooth
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headphones with an I phone it's not easy.
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I do this every day because the airport
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they don't stick in my years so I
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use the Sony your buds and it's really
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odyssey like a coin flip whether they go
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to connect the my I phone or not.
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I have three every time I wore listen
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to a podcast so I'm living through this
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every day and god. Yes, Apple
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does seem to come across as pretty petty
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and once you realize that the Apple watch
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is incompatible with Android, then you can see
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how Apple's using the ecosystem of hardware joker
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and people from making the switch from the
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I phone. Anyway, The only
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question that remains is will the Department of
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Justice win against the happens? When. We
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don't know because no matter what good story
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you we've you still need to convince the
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court that the fact that on your side.
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What? We can tell is that the Department
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of Justice has opted to trade or different
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part in a bid to win this lawsuit.
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See most. Recent lawsuits against
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opposites have hinged on highlighting for the
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tech giant uses his dominance in smartphones
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to squeezed app developers, Apple Dell developers.
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Listen, we're giving you insane Li White
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any media distribution. We are our store
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so you better pay us a thirty
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percent commission. Naturally, Developers
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hit that. But. When Epic Games
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is created a popular game fortnight to call
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the might have happened and complained about Apple's
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app store monopoly they didn't score. Green.
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At. Idle the judge's decision fi what
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Apple in ten of the eleven counts.
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So as Ben Thompson, who writes Track
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Daiquiri theorize, maybe the Department of Justice
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realize that attacking the absorbed monopoly wasn't
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going to be enough, and instead of
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flogging a dead horse, it launched an
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attack on the ready thing that brought
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success to apps. It's integration across hardware
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and software from computers to phones to
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watches to I tunes. Apple has build
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it's foundational ecosystem over decades, and the
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Department of Justice wants everyone to believe
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that such. An Integrated Experiences
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Illegal. For. Now we would have to
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wait and see how the start of the pans
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out. Thank
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