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for joining me. Awesome

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show. Planned for you today.

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I'm going to admit, today's

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show is going to be

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a bit more organic and I

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may even surprise the

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group of guys helping me to put the show together

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every day. I can't say that I'm

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going to follow the script that

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we laid out this morning because

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I'm a bit frustrated and I'm a

1:03

bit, maybe

1:06

a bit too transparent. So I'm going to

1:08

share with the audience what's

1:10

driving me today and what my thinking

1:13

is today and a

1:15

little bit about what's going on with the

1:17

show. And I think I'm

1:19

going to be able to work the themes that

1:22

I want to talk about today

1:24

into my overall frustration

1:26

and it's not with anybody I work with,

1:29

it's not certainly with the audience, it's

1:31

a little bit piggybacking off of what I talked

1:34

about yesterday in terms of like just

1:38

being real. The headwinds

1:40

that are

1:43

being directed, our

1:45

way, my way, the fearless

1:47

way, has

1:50

me pretty frustrated. We

1:52

are doing our best work right

1:55

now. We are

1:57

more involved in the

1:59

conversation. more relevant

2:03

than at any time during

2:05

the history of this show. I'm

2:08

not sure. You

2:10

know, I've had. It's

2:13

tough for me to judge it based off of

2:15

my career. I mean, you know, in 2007,

2:17

2008, I

2:20

don't know if you can be any more relevant than

2:22

what I was as a sports writer and then at

2:24

other points in my career when I was, you know,

2:27

at ESPN or Fox Sports and involved in

2:29

counter. I've been involved in so many different

2:32

things. But here

2:34

in the last six months, last

2:36

throughout all the football season, man, we've

2:38

just been on topics and we've been

2:41

the only ones on topics and

2:43

we've been out ahead of everybody else as

2:46

it relates to Deon Sanders and so many

2:48

different things that

2:52

we're clearly blazing a trail and

2:55

a path and leading

2:57

a discussion that's necessary in

2:59

the sports world and in

3:02

the world at large. And

3:05

obviously the people, the forces

3:08

lined against me, us, and

3:10

this show are aware of that and

3:13

want to do everything they can

3:15

to prevent that, to stop that,

3:17

from to diminish our reach and

3:19

to try to silence our messaging.

3:22

And that's why I started off yesterday's show with,

3:24

hey guys, you got to help me fight these

3:26

algorithms because, you know, from

3:29

my social media feeds to every platform

3:31

I'm on, you know,

3:33

the gatekeepers, the overseers, the people

3:35

in control of the media, the

3:37

people in control of the zeitgeist.

3:40

And I know that sounds narcissistic

3:43

and self-important and perhaps

3:45

arrogant. But

3:47

it's true. They're

3:50

trying to stop the fearless movement.

3:52

They're trying to stop me.

3:55

They've been trying to stop me for a

3:57

long time. I've been at this.

4:00

and fighting and wrestling with this

4:02

group of gatekeepers, the

4:05

people that certainly

4:07

seem determined to

4:10

keep black people in particular,

4:13

thinking a certain way, behaving a certain way.

4:15

This is all the headwinds I got in

4:17

2013, 14, 15, when,

4:21

you know, I was hired back at ESPN

4:23

to run the undefeated. It was all about

4:26

controlling black people's

4:28

thoughts. That's

4:31

all that was about. They were not

4:33

going to allow me to lead

4:36

the undefeated and to have the

4:38

undefeated do real journalism. That

4:41

is not allowed. Real

4:44

journalism isn't allowed, and it's

4:48

a death penalty for black

4:50

journalists. We're

4:52

not allowed to do journalism. We're

4:54

only allowed to shuck-jive,

4:58

be performers, entertainers,

5:01

not thought leaders. We're

5:04

allowed to react to

5:06

what they want us to talk about,

5:08

period, end of story. And

5:10

at the undefeated, I wanted to

5:12

do a more

5:15

journalistic version of what I'm doing now.

5:18

We want to be thought leaders. We want to

5:20

tell people, no, this is what

5:22

you should be discussing and talking about, the

5:25

gatekeepers, the overseers, the people in

5:27

control. Not

5:29

going to happen. We're not

5:31

having that. And that's

5:34

the headwind we're facing now. And

5:36

so today, I'm going to try

5:38

to stay on that topic

5:40

and think, oh, I'm not going to try. I'm going to stay

5:43

on that topic and think. But I'm going to bring up a

5:45

couple of just examples

5:47

of what it is I'm talking about and

5:50

try to get you all to understand. Many of

5:52

you already do understand, but I want you to

5:54

understand why it's important, these things that I'm asking

5:57

for, figuring

5:59

out, taking. the time even if it takes

6:01

a little time you can't bear a how can i

6:03

hit that five star rating on apple is not easy

6:05

take the time figure it out a

6:09

review take the time figure it

6:11

out it's important hit the subscription

6:13

hit the likes on this video

6:17

important because trust me

6:19

they're trying to stop this

6:22

show from reaching a wider wider audience part

6:24

of that i think is because we're

6:26

in an election year and

6:28

the the left the

6:31

gatekeepers the people that control uh...

6:34

black people's thoughts and it's not

6:36

just about controlling black people because

6:38

they use the control of black

6:40

people to silence and

6:43

control everybody else if

6:47

a black person thinks the wrong thing

6:50

there's a lot of local time they're not really

6:52

black joe biden's told you that everybody's told you

6:54

that and then a

6:57

white christian supports

7:00

the wrong thing with their races uh...

7:04

they only like certain kinds of black

7:06

people that that that that

7:08

they use the control of black people

7:11

control black people and

7:13

control everybody else as

7:15

well i'm

7:18

gonna start out today show with this something

7:20

light and i and listen we've had people in

7:22

the show you should talk about things more important

7:24

in sports no i should i i

7:26

need to talk about what i know about and

7:29

and showed you how in the sports world

7:31

all these examples of what they're doing to

7:33

the rest of the culture the rest of

7:36

the entertainment industry the the the rest of

7:38

the media structure you can see it all

7:40

right through the sports land so i'm gonna

7:42

start with a daily dose of steven a

7:44

smith a

7:47

topic we've been hammering uh...

7:49

for a while and i want to show you how

7:53

in order to have the

7:55

region order to have the algorithms in

7:57

order to have the system back

8:00

you, what you must be

8:02

willing to do as

8:05

a black media person. And

8:07

it's what I'm unwilling to do. And

8:09

it's what many of you are unwilling to do.

8:13

But the thing I keep asking you

8:15

every day on this show is, what

8:17

is it that you are willing to

8:19

do? Are

8:22

you willing to do

8:24

a little more, push a little

8:26

harder so that we

8:29

can continue to have growth and

8:32

not be silenced by the

8:34

gatekeepers? And so I

8:36

want to play you, Bobby Burak at

8:38

Outkick covers the media. Bobby's

8:41

a good young man, good

8:43

journalist. You know, he

8:46

points out a lot of the hypocrisies and contradictions

8:51

in the media. And

8:54

this week or yesterday, he wrote

8:56

a story about Stephen

8:59

A. Smith and how Stephen

9:01

A. Smith seemingly had

9:03

two different reactions within

9:05

a span of a week, 10 days to

9:09

Joel M. B., the Philadelphia

9:11

76ers Center, scoring 70 points.

9:14

Joel M. B., black dude, maybe

9:17

he's from Cameroon. I can't remember where Joel

9:19

M. B. is from. He played a year

9:21

of college basketball at Kansas. He's

9:24

a great player, scores 70 points

9:26

for the 76ers. And

9:29

then Luka Doncic, white

9:31

guy from maybe Serbia, you

9:35

know, one of these Eastern European countries or whatever,

9:38

he scores 73 points and

9:41

Stephen A. Trashes Luka

9:44

Doncic's performance or, you know, says

9:46

that Atlanta Hawks played no defense

9:48

in his embarrassment. But when Joel

9:50

M. B., black guy, scores

9:52

70, it's one of the great

9:54

performers. Let's just contrast these two

9:56

comments from Stephen A. Smith about

9:59

Joel M. B., and Luca Donkins.

10:01

Let's play Joel M.D. first. But

10:03

I will tell you this. We're talking about

10:05

M.B. right now. 30 points

10:08

or more in 21 consecutive

10:10

games. And yet, the

10:12

Philadelphia 76ers, winners of 6 straight,

10:16

are still four games out of first place. So

10:18

what this says to me, when I did, the message

10:20

didn't be sent to the rest of

10:22

the NBA. This brother is phenomenal. Arguably

10:24

the best big man in the game.

10:27

Obviously, Jokic always warrants our consideration.

10:30

But the message he sent is that he's

10:32

going for the championship. He's

10:35

not trying to mess around. He already got

10:37

the league MVP. I think that's the

10:39

message he's trying to send. My

10:41

point is, Shannon, that's

10:43

the message he needs to send. Because

10:46

how he's playing is what's

10:48

going to be required in order

10:50

for him to pull this off

10:52

as the Sixers are presently constructed.

10:55

That's the message that I received from

10:57

him. He knows this is what it's

10:59

going to take, and he's willing to

11:01

do it. So everybody beware, because he

11:03

already got the chip. He ain't worried

11:05

about no 65 games, and you know

11:07

whether you qualify for the league MVP

11:09

award. This brother is coming for the

11:11

chip. He wants it bad.

11:13

Let's see what he does come postseason

11:15

time. So

11:18

that's Stephen A. Smith talking about Joel M.B.

11:22

Luca Doncic has been in the league

11:24

five, six years, and playing

11:27

for the Dallas Mavericks, I would think he'd

11:29

won a championship too. But he

11:31

scores 73 points, and it

11:33

provokes this from Stephen A. Smith. The

11:36

Atlanta Hawks, no wonder why y'all

11:38

stink. Did you see how

11:40

they played defense last night? I mean,

11:42

this is not Joel and B. who

11:44

played Billy Wall because you know what

11:47

you haven't seen, Victor Wienbion on you.

11:49

We understand that. We expect that. This

11:51

is not a situation where Carl Anthony

11:53

Towns dropped 58 in the first three

11:55

quarters and disappeared with the APB

11:57

outfit in the fourth quarter in all of the...

11:59

of this other stuff, but the 58 points he

12:01

scored those first three quarters, a lot of those

12:04

points, he was being challenged. This is not that.

12:06

What transpired last night in Atlanta was disgraceful.

12:08

It made me feel like I just got

12:10

to get somebody to don't want you to

12:13

play defense or you got to display your

12:15

offense. You have to play defense. That's what

12:17

the hell took place in Atlanta last night.

12:19

There's a difference. Don't tell me anybody wants

12:21

that. No, you don't want to change it

12:23

and go back to old times, but in

12:25

the same breath, you don't mean for it

12:27

to resemble the first three quarters that NBA

12:29

all star weekend, which is what last night

12:31

looked like in Atlanta, Georgia. The Hawks, you

12:34

should be ashamed of your damn self. You

12:36

really should. So

12:38

anybody that's paid attention to the

12:41

NBA knows

12:43

that what Lucas

12:45

Donkas did and how the Atlanta Hawks

12:47

played. That's par for

12:49

the course in this new NBA. All

12:53

the rules have been doctored and changed.

12:55

The players all make so much money.

12:57

There's so much load management that the

12:59

paint has been opened up in a

13:02

way to promote people driving

13:04

to the lane, uncontested, and

13:07

many regular season NBA games

13:09

look like a

13:12

competitive all star game. They

13:14

look like what NBA all star games used

13:16

to look like in the 1970s and 80s

13:20

and nineties, kind of

13:22

some old lay defense and you can get to the rim

13:25

very easily. Everybody knows this is widespread

13:28

and rampant throughout the NBA for

13:30

Stephen A to sing a single out

13:34

this Atlanta Hawks game and

13:36

Luca Donkits and how, you

13:38

know, the Hawks played Olay

13:41

defense, but Carl Anthony towns

13:43

and Joel Embiid, they

13:45

were phenomenal. They were, you

13:48

know, playing great ball and they were being contained.

13:50

It's a joke and

13:53

it's for, it

13:56

can only Stephen A's. contradictory

14:00

messages here can

14:03

only be defined and described in

14:06

one way, accurately, racist. He's

14:10

got a racist double standard and

14:13

many people in the league, because the

14:15

NBA is a black-dominated

14:17

league, they

14:20

share that view. We saw it and

14:23

I want to be careful because you know

14:25

to some I like and respect Kendrick Perkins,

14:28

but last year,

14:30

Nikola Jokic won

14:33

the NBA championship and should have won

14:36

his third straight MVP award, but

14:38

Kendrick Perkins jumped in and played

14:40

the race card on

14:43

MVP voters and basically you know

14:46

if you guys remember last year

14:49

he basically said that voters or people

14:51

were favoring Nikola Jokic because he's white

14:54

and that put everybody in check and

14:56

the next thing you know Joel Embiid

14:58

won the MVP when everybody

15:01

pretty much knows Jokic was the

15:03

most valuable player and the Nuggets

15:05

went on to win the championship

15:07

and the Philadelphia 76ers bowed out

15:09

as they have done throughout

15:12

Joel Embiid's stay in Philly.

15:17

There's this racism that

15:19

is required, anti-white

15:22

racism that is required

15:26

in the sports media

15:28

world for widespread success

15:30

and acceptance. The

15:32

message is being pushed out very

15:34

clearly. The matrix, the

15:37

internet, that's

15:41

what it rewards, anti-white

15:45

racism. They have designed

15:47

a system for

15:50

systemic racism. They've

15:54

done that and I'll be

15:56

called an Uncle Tom and a cool for

15:58

pointed it out. What

16:01

I will not be called is a liar. I

16:05

will not be called a liar because

16:08

I've been consistent throughout my

16:11

entire 30 year

16:13

career as a journalist. I

16:16

think it's now 34 years. And

16:19

I think if you examine, remove

16:21

the first 12 years of my life,

16:25

44 years just as a human being, I've

16:28

always been against racism.

16:32

When the system was tilted and

16:35

favored white guys

16:37

and discriminated against black guys,

16:40

I complained then. Now

16:44

that the system is tilted

16:47

and is tilted against white

16:49

guys, I still don't

16:51

like racism so I complain now.

16:55

But since I'm off script and

16:58

since the system has been designed

17:00

to punish anybody

17:02

that challenges the anti-white

17:04

narrative that is pervasive throughout

17:06

the American media and

17:09

I don't want white guys running

17:11

around putting themselves on a victim cross.

17:14

Don't do it because

17:16

the reality is this

17:19

assault, this unfairness that the

17:21

system has legalized, it's

17:24

really not about you. It's about

17:26

Jesus Christ. Because

17:28

that's why they've defined Christianity as

17:31

the white man's religion. That's a

17:33

lie. It's not true. Any serious

17:36

Christian knows that. But

17:40

they have defined Christianity

17:42

and fairness and truth as

17:45

something white. And

17:48

so they demonize everything

17:50

white, everything masculine,

17:54

everything that celebrates

17:56

or promotes male leadership. They

17:58

demonize that. all is

18:00

evil and

18:03

racial idolaters like Stephen A. Smith

18:05

and many of the black people

18:07

in the media who are just,

18:09

and I don't even know what

18:11

their eye dollars, they just want to check and

18:14

so they see which way the wind is

18:16

blowing. Well you get money for

18:19

promoting anti-white racism. I

18:21

want money, I'll do it.

18:25

I won't do it, the fearless

18:27

move, we're not about that. We're

18:30

about a set of values and

18:32

those values are being punished and that's why

18:35

I'm sitting here telling you how frustrated I

18:37

am but I

18:39

don't want anybody to

18:42

feel sorry for me or us or

18:44

this show. I

18:48

have moments of frustration but

18:50

I'm not a victim because the

18:52

actual headwinds and persecution when

18:54

I really think about it,

18:57

when I pray at night

18:59

or in the morning or later today

19:01

during our prayer call, it

19:05

actually, when I think it

19:07

through, when I get past my frustration, it

19:10

actually makes me feel good. Again,

19:14

it's in one of those deals where

19:16

if you've ever done a tough workout

19:19

and you've suffered the pain of

19:22

a tough workout, there

19:24

is a tiny bit of satisfaction that you know

19:26

like man, this is going to benefit me down

19:29

the road. It's painful, you

19:32

might complain about it but you know it's

19:34

going to benefit you down the road. That's

19:37

where we're at right now in

19:39

the fearless movement. There's

19:42

some pain, there's discomfort, it's

19:45

frustrating, it makes you

19:47

walk a little funny, it makes it tough

19:49

to sleep at night, you're tossed it and

19:51

turning it, but in your

19:53

heart of heart, there's a mature person, you

19:56

know, this pain is

19:58

an indication that you're doing the

20:00

right thing. And

20:03

so I feel very confident that

20:06

we're doing the right thing. That

20:09

we're put, I hear from you all, I

20:11

hear from other people, I see

20:14

the results, I know what

20:17

we're doing, the topics we're covering, they're

20:19

the right thing. We're

20:21

getting punished for it and

20:24

you know, we're getting, you know, a lot

20:26

of conservators, everybody talks about being

20:28

shadow-banned and I'm not saying that they're

20:30

wrong. But

20:33

I have it in my career

20:35

and in the time, I've been

20:37

on social media since 2009, the

20:40

level of pushback

20:42

against me and

20:45

what I'm doing, it's never been stronger than it

20:47

is right now. And

20:51

that includes like 2013-14

20:54

when people at Deadspin

20:57

were incentivized to

20:59

destroy my character and

21:01

wrote vicious pieces and they

21:03

used social media to

21:06

rig up the system to portray

21:08

me in a certain way. And

21:11

so I've faced stiff headwinds

21:14

like this before but

21:17

this does seem to be on a different level

21:20

and it does, it's happening

21:22

at a time like when I'm

21:24

prolifically putting out work,

21:27

we're putting out work that's right on

21:29

target, done at a high level. I'm

21:32

looking at the

21:34

conversation we had yesterday, the column I

21:36

wrote yesterday trying to explain to people

21:38

like, hey man, cut this Taylor Swift

21:40

stuff out, it's going to backfire. It's

21:42

not the right, it's

21:45

not, I didn't argue yesterday that like,

21:47

hey Taylor Swift's this great person and

21:49

blah blah blah. My

21:51

argument was like, no, you're picking the wrong fight. They're

21:54

going to use this Super Bowl thing to

21:56

discredit you. They're

21:59

going to use the Super Bowl thing to

22:01

say look you're crazy all these people you've

22:03

been saying for the last four to six

22:05

to eight years have Trump derangement syndrome look

22:08

at your tailored arrangement syndrome you're

22:10

just as bad that's what

22:12

I was trying to point out and it's the

22:14

right message and everybody's talking

22:16

about Taylor Swift and I'm trying to

22:19

explain to people like be

22:21

careful here we're in a game of chess you

22:24

know and I'm not saying the vakes not

22:26

a great chess player because I think that

22:28

he is I'm not saying that Jack Posabia isn't

22:30

a great chess player because I think that

22:32

he is but you

22:35

can make mistakes in chess I'd

22:37

love to play chess I make mistakes all the

22:39

time and

22:43

in these waters when it comes to sports

22:45

media and all of that I can see

22:47

it because I've

22:49

been in this fight my entire career

22:53

I'm a bit

22:55

frustrated I'm asking

22:59

specifically for you all to help

23:01

me and to help us and

23:04

they're just small little things the

23:06

sponsors you guys do a great

23:08

job of supporting our sponsors do

23:10

a better job you guys

23:13

do a great job of making sure you

23:15

tap that like button make sure you're given

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that five-star rate do a better job I'm

23:21

going to dig in we're going

23:23

to dig in here and do

23:25

a better job because

23:28

we have to because these head we're in

23:30

an election year the

23:32

their entire Satan's

23:34

when I say say the people

23:37

that don't believe Jesus Christ is their Lord

23:39

and Savior they're

23:41

desperate right now they're panic right

23:44

now the last thing they want

23:47

is a group of Jesus

23:50

Christ believing men to

23:54

ignore all these superficial

23:57

differences that they use to pit

24:00

us against each other. They

24:03

don't want anybody or anything

24:05

that can bring believers together

24:09

in a common

24:11

cause to protect the values that

24:14

made this country great, to protect the

24:19

values that serve your children

24:21

and grandchildren. They

24:23

don't want men putting those differences

24:26

aside, the skin color differences and all

24:29

this other little petty stuff they got

24:31

us caught up in. The

24:33

whole little game they're playing, black

24:36

Christian versus white Christian, black

24:38

versus white, it's all a game. We

24:42

can't give into it and I

24:44

know it's difficult. I know how

24:47

much we've all been programmed to

24:49

talk about things from a white

24:51

black perspective rather

24:53

than from a fairness and unfairness

24:55

perspective. I know that it's

24:58

tough to recognize and

25:03

accept like, man,

25:05

America has set up

25:07

a system of rewards for people who will disavow

25:12

this nation's founding

25:14

principles, who will blame white Christians for everything

25:16

that's wrong in their life, for

25:19

people that will go on platforms

25:22

and lie and distort and smear. They've

25:31

set up a system of rewards for that

25:33

and the people that tell the truth, they set

25:35

up a system to punish them.

25:37

That's what, when you've lived my life and

25:40

my career, when I

25:46

started out, the values that I defend

25:49

here on this show, the objectivity, the

25:52

search for

25:54

truth, the willingness to do things,

25:57

the ability to do things, the ability to do things

26:00

is to stand on truth regardless of

26:02

the consequences. All of that

26:04

stuff used to be rewarded. Now it's

26:08

all punished. I'm

26:11

tell- first 20 years of my career I would say, yeah first

26:13

20 years of

26:17

my- all of that was rewarded. Again,

26:21

there was definitely blowback and

26:23

heat, but the system

26:27

rewarded that. They rewarded people from lying as

26:29

well. But there was a group

26:32

that were like, man we actually need

26:34

the truth and we

26:36

value it to some degree and

26:38

so there's a system of rewards

26:40

for what Whitlock does, that objectivity

26:43

and fairness. Now

26:45

there's nothing but punishment. Speaks

26:48

to how desperate they are and that's why we

26:51

can't give up because they know something.

26:53

They know that this may be their

26:56

last best chance. There's a

26:58

level of desperation here that says

27:00

they know if they don't

27:03

strike right now it may

27:05

be over for them. And

27:08

so we need to stay the course and continue to

27:10

fight. And that's why I want to segue into a

27:14

conversation about Ilhan Omar. Probably a little

27:16

bit of a surprising topic

27:20

for you all, but it's fascinating what's

27:23

going on with Ilhan Omar. She's the squad

27:25

member, the

27:28

congresswoman from Minnesota. She

27:32

was called on tape or someone has played a

27:34

tape of her I

27:37

think speaking in Somalian, whatever,

27:41

I don't know, do Somalians, is that

27:43

what they speak? She's from Somalia, do

27:45

they speak Somalian? I would think, I

27:47

don't know, never been to Somalia, but

27:50

they translated it. And

27:53

we have a congresswoman telling people that we're that

28:01

she answers to the Somalian

28:03

president that she

28:06

serves Somalia first.

28:08

And you wonder why I'm

28:10

America first? We have an

28:12

American congresswoman on tape

28:14

speaking to people talking

28:16

about her loyalty and priorities are

28:19

for another country. Let's play

28:21

the tape. This

29:26

is what I call

29:29

diversity, equity and Ilhan

29:33

because I don't

29:35

want people to single

29:38

out Ilhan Omar. She

29:42

just laid bare what the

29:45

entire diversity, equity

29:47

and inclusion agenda

29:49

is and anybody caught

29:51

up in it. People

29:54

have all these rationalizations and all

29:56

this. Well, it has good

29:58

intentions and it's this. No, it doesn't. Diversity,

30:03

equity, and inclusion is exactly what

30:05

you just saw from Ilhan Omar.

30:09

She's here to disrupt

30:12

America. She's here to

30:14

serve a foreign

30:17

interest. She's

30:19

here to uproot

30:21

the Constitution and the

30:23

freedoms that Americans that

30:26

have served America for more than

30:28

200 years. She's

30:31

not alone. Anybody

30:36

in Congress that knows

30:38

her, that isn't calling

30:40

for her to be deported, kicked

30:43

out of Congress and kicked out of

30:45

this country, that is a person who

30:47

should not be trusted. Diversity,

30:52

equity, and inclusion convinces

30:55

you and convinces

30:57

people like, oh, inclusion

31:00

means we have to

31:03

tolerate and make room for people

31:05

who hate America. Who

31:08

does that? Who

31:11

does that? So let's say you're sitting

31:14

in your home or an

31:16

apartment. And

31:18

so, you know, diversity, equity, and

31:20

inclusion means the

31:23

homeless person or the next

31:25

door neighbor who hates your

31:27

guts. In

31:29

order for you to be inclusive, you

31:31

have to invite them into your

31:34

home. You

31:36

have to let them live and

31:38

have say so over what

31:40

goes on in your home. Inclusion

31:46

means tolerance of

31:49

things that want to destroy

31:51

you in their mind. This

31:55

is diversity, equity, and Ilhan

31:58

diversity, equity, and inclusion. an

32:00

insurrection, this is what

32:02

an insurrection looks like.

32:06

When you have to invite your

32:08

enemies, when you have to make

32:11

room for people who want to

32:13

serve another country, when you have

32:15

to let them become a lawmaker

32:18

and you have to be good with it or

32:20

you're racist. This

32:26

is the America they're building.

32:28

I don't recognize it. I

32:32

don't respect it. Call

32:36

me an old man, because I am, but

32:41

I'm just like, my head is on

32:44

fire. How did

32:46

we get here? That

32:49

a member of Congress would

32:51

be comfortable giving that speech

32:54

and that the American media would

32:57

mostly ignore it, that

33:00

politicians wouldn't be

33:03

heads on fire, shouting at the top of their

33:05

lungs, arrest that woman and get

33:07

her the hell up out of this country.

33:13

But this is diversity, equity,

33:16

and Ilhan. This

33:20

entire movement is about

33:23

destroying America

33:27

and its founding principles. And

33:31

people like me that

33:35

are like, no, no, no, these founding principles,

33:38

I like this constitution. It's worked.

33:40

It's cleaned up a lot of

33:42

messes. It's granted me freedom. It's

33:44

granted me opportunity. It's created a

33:46

place on earth that's the safest

33:49

and most opportunity rich for black

33:51

people anywhere on the planet. I'm

33:53

supposed to be embarrassed for defending

33:55

it? That's

34:00

the game they played on you

34:02

that they've made you think inclusion

34:07

means tolerance of

34:10

values and mindsets and attitudes

34:12

and actions that are intended

34:14

to destroy you No

34:25

This is why as men we

34:28

need as American men We

34:31

need to quit apologizing and put our foot

34:33

down And

34:36

no, I don't want to be that kind of

34:39

inclusive I don't want eon

34:41

Omar Anywhere making

34:44

any laws having any influence over American

34:46

laws. I don't want her in the

34:48

country and

34:52

And anybody that believes in what she's talking

34:54

about. I don't want them in the country

34:56

and and

34:59

the lower are the Ilhan

35:02

lights the Cory bushes and

35:07

Everybody else that's just a Ilhan

35:10

light They

35:12

need to go to All

35:17

the people that have decided that

35:19

they're smarter than the founding documents

35:21

And and and and that all

35:23

the founders are horrible and this

35:25

whole thing needs to be turned

35:27

on its head They're

35:31

idiots and we

35:33

don't have to tolerate them Inclusion

35:37

doesn't mean well The

35:41

very idiots who have built nothing

35:47

We have to be tolerant of them I I'm

35:52

not even saying I've built anything. I'm

35:55

appreciative of what was built.

35:58

That's all I am And

36:02

if you don't have any appreciation

36:05

for what was built here in this

36:07

country, I

36:10

don't think you're very bright. I think you've been

36:13

caught up in some false

36:15

narratives. I think you've been

36:17

programmed and brainwashed and influenced

36:20

into believing things that

36:22

do not serve your best interest.

36:26

It's a fad. I

36:30

believe your gratitude has been removed.

36:33

I believe you have a

36:35

misunderstanding of the

36:38

Bible and Christianity. If

36:42

you're in this country and then look around

36:44

the world and you're not

36:47

filled with a spirit of gratitude, you're

36:52

doing life wrong. And

36:56

I'll say, let's say you're sitting

36:58

in prison right now and you're listening to this.

37:02

You can be in prison in some other places

37:04

that ain't, and I know our prisons

37:06

are horrible, but

37:08

it can be worse. And

37:12

you wouldn't have a right to an attorney. You

37:17

wouldn't have some public defender or

37:20

some great lawyer willing to take you on pro

37:22

bono. It

37:25

can be worse and it is worse, a lot of

37:27

places. And

37:29

that doesn't mean America is perfect

37:32

and not in need of tweaking and

37:34

not in need of, but, I,

37:42

the entire system, the

37:44

Internet has rigged a

37:47

system for destruction of

37:49

America and American values. And

37:53

we sit here as the fearless

37:55

army and we have

37:57

to recognize we're operating in

37:59

a system that's designed to

38:02

destroy us. What

38:05

are we willing to do to push back? That's

38:10

my question for today.

38:12

That's what I wanted to get off my

38:14

chest today. We're gonna

38:18

bring on Anthony and

38:20

Virgil because six

38:25

people here in Nashville

38:27

were convicted for

38:30

protesting at a

38:32

abortion clinic and

38:36

they were convicted yesterday and they face

38:38

up to ten and a half years

38:40

in federal prison. There's

38:43

some law called face.

38:48

F-A-C-E freedom.

38:52

Let me hold on before I go. Let me make sure

38:54

I call this right and set

38:56

up this conversation right but I want to

38:58

get Anthony and Virgil's

39:00

because these laws

39:03

have been on the

39:05

book. These laws

39:07

have been

39:09

on the book since 1994 and

39:13

I just

39:17

yeah. Freedom of

39:19

access to clinic entrances

39:21

act. It's been on the

39:24

books since President Bill Clinton in 1994. These

39:29

people were charged with this crime in 2021,

39:31

convicted yesterday. Obviously

39:36

you guys know about our relationship

39:38

with pre-born and where we stand

39:40

on abortions. I want to have

39:42

a conversation. Virgil has protested

39:45

at abortion clinics previously

39:48

so I just want to get their

39:50

thoughts on as Christians.

39:55

I believe commanded to follow the

39:57

laws that our government sets up.

40:01

But what's the line in

40:03

terms of our government is bending

40:05

over backwards and has been since 1994,

40:08

what's that, 30 years, to

40:10

make sure that everybody has access to go

40:12

in and kill a baby without anyone

40:15

praying for them or singing spiritual

40:17

songs or blocking an entrance. These

40:21

people face 10 and a half years in prison.

40:23

We watch people in the

40:25

name of George Floyd block

40:28

entrances to facilities, burn down buildings and

40:30

I'm not aware of any of these

40:32

guys facing 10 and a half years

40:35

in prison, but we'll talk with Anthony

40:37

and Virgil about it next on Kennedy

40:39

Harmony. Well,

41:03

what about Tennessee, Tennessee

41:05

Harmony, Virgil and Anthony

41:08

are here. Anthony, if you

41:10

could get us started with a prayer. Father,

41:12

God, we thank you for today. We

41:14

thank you for your blessings. Father bless

41:17

this conversation that we have about such

41:20

a serious matter. Help us to bring to

41:22

it grace and truth and

41:24

we thank you for those that are watching.

41:26

We pray that they are edified by our

41:28

discussion in Christ's name we pray. Amen.

41:31

Amen. So as I said

41:33

before you guys came on air, six

41:36

people right here in Nashville, Tennessee

41:40

convicted yesterday for violating the freedom

41:43

of access to clinic entrances act.

41:46

This bill or this law was put into action

41:49

in 1994. You

41:52

can't disrupt basically the

41:54

ongoing the coming and going

41:56

at an abortion clinic. And

41:58

so laws. bit on the book, but

42:02

as believers, you

42:05

know, I think we're commanded, I feel like we're

42:07

commanded to follow the laws of our country, but

42:11

we're also commanded

42:14

to protect the unborn

42:16

or children in the womb. And

42:19

so what, what, we'll just

42:21

start here with just a vague or

42:23

general question, Anthony, when you read this

42:25

story about these six

42:27

individuals, what are the

42:29

first thoughts that went through your mind? So

42:32

initially there's two departments

42:34

of this, two, two factions of this.

42:36

One, you have whether the law

42:38

is a good law or not. And

42:41

the thing that I use to determine whether

42:43

a law is good or not, a good

42:45

law protects freedoms of bad

42:48

law tends to try to give

42:50

freedoms. God has already given freedom.

42:53

So when you, when you set up a

42:55

law that tries to, Hey, we want to give

42:57

a freedom of this or that. Yeah. Yeah. A

42:59

good law. Where did you come up? Where did

43:01

you come up with that? Or what, what? Just

43:03

looking at, at laws, there's,

43:05

there's thinking about it, looking it up,

43:07

man. Huh. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

43:10

Yeah. So that's, that's the first thing

43:12

we can obviously see. This is a

43:14

law that's trying to give more access

43:16

to abortion clinics. But the

43:18

second side of this is the point

43:20

that you bring up, which is obeying

43:22

the laws of the land. Yes,

43:25

we are commanded to obey

43:27

the laws of the land. Paul tells us

43:29

in Romans that we've

43:31

got to follow the laws. He

43:34

tells us again, Peter tells us in first Peter

43:37

to be good citizens. But

43:40

here's a good point that scripture indicates

43:42

in acts chapter five, there

43:44

is a point where obeying the

43:46

laws of the land can interact

43:48

with and interfere with obeying what

43:50

God says. And Peter tells

43:53

us in acts five and 29, we

43:55

must obey God rather than

43:57

man. So whenever we are

43:59

faithful, with that crossroads of, okay, what do we

44:02

do? I got to obey God. Now, you

44:04

also have to take into account that

44:07

making that stance will cost you.

44:10

Now, to the Christian, we already know,

44:13

obeying Christ, we're already

44:15

making sacrifices. We're already going to have

44:17

to pay some costs. So that's going

44:19

to come with it. The problem is

44:21

that sometimes we're not really there

44:23

to follow it all the way through. You know,

44:25

if it means I'm going to lose my job,

44:27

then I'm not going to do

44:29

it. If it means I'm going to lose

44:31

friends, if it means I'm going to be

44:34

locked up, I'll stop. But if you're really

44:36

committed to obeying God, you already count that

44:38

in the cause. We could be arrested for

44:40

this. We could be sentenced to jail. It's

44:42

a bad law, but hey, I'm going to

44:44

do it because I'm obeying God. No different

44:46

than people during the

44:48

times of slavery that disobeyed the

44:51

laws and faced the consequences for

44:53

that. Sure. We call those people

44:55

heroes. Yeah. So I

44:57

think what these guys are doing are pretty heroic,

44:59

but Virgil, I know you've done some

45:02

of this. What were your thoughts? Now

45:04

I'm with you. I'm very sensitive to

45:06

hearing stories like this because I've spent

45:08

a number of years engaged in this

45:10

very kind of thing at abortion meals.

45:13

And so, you know, for a good

45:15

portion of my Christian

45:17

walk back in the day, I

45:20

would spend, you know, a Saturday, a

45:22

week early on, and

45:24

then, and then would dedicate more, you

45:27

know, one Saturday a month in front of an

45:29

abortion meal. I did that in Omaha, Nebraska

45:32

at the abortion meal there. And so I

45:34

totally get it. I think initially when I,

45:36

when I went there, I would, I would

45:38

make sure that I knew what the laws

45:40

were. Be, I did

45:42

my best to follow those laws and

45:45

see, ensure that while I was there,

45:48

I was not only engaging in just simply

45:50

help to save a baby or

45:53

to keep a mother from murdering her child, but, but

45:55

also to share the gospel because at the end of

45:57

the day, the only thing that was going to heal

45:59

the human. heart is the message

46:01

of the gospel. So I looked at it as

46:03

an opportunity to bring the gospel into conflict with

46:05

the culture. Those

46:08

who were driving by needed to know that

46:10

murders were happening in the building that I

46:12

stood in front of. But

46:14

those who were coming to murder their children needed

46:16

to know that Christ already

46:19

paid a price for their sin and

46:21

that they didn't need to cover up

46:23

their sin by murdering their child. So

46:25

those kinds of things were important. As

46:28

it pertains to what these folks

46:30

are doing, I think Brother Anthony

46:32

hit it out of the ballpark.

46:34

He nailed every facet of this

46:36

issue that I thought through. A, is

46:38

it a just law? B, if

46:41

you've made the decision that based

46:44

upon your own conscience, you

46:46

were going to break what you knew was

46:48

the law, then you would

46:50

be willing to pay the price.

46:52

And I think it requires, unfortunately

46:54

in our day, it requires more

46:56

Christians to step up to take

46:59

a stand to examine the cost and be

47:01

willing to pay those. Now on the flip

47:03

side of that, you can't

47:05

be upset about what the government has

47:07

decided to do and say, well,

47:10

they didn't do the right thing or what

47:12

have you. You've got to rejoice in the

47:14

fact that you decided to be there and

47:16

you have to rejoice in the fact that

47:19

the government decided to uphold the law and

47:21

perhaps you'll be in prison. That is a

47:23

part of counting the cost. I

47:26

think all of what they did

47:28

should apply pressure to government for

47:30

them to examine whether or not,

47:32

you know, abortion is just

47:35

in our land and whether or not

47:37

we should protect the least of these,

47:39

right? The young child in the womb,

47:42

that's exactly what these people were doing. I

47:44

don't fault them for what they were doing

47:46

at all. Last thing I'll say about that

47:48

and I'll turn it back over to you

47:51

guys is my other concern is I wanted

47:53

to know, and it was difficult to determine

47:55

whether or not these folks were connected to

47:57

a local church. And the reason

48:00

that is oftentimes I've been in

48:02

this environment where we, uh, those who

48:04

do this kind of ministry will just

48:06

kind of decide one day, Hey, I'm

48:08

going to go do this and

48:10

go down to the local abortion clinic, but

48:12

they won't have the protection of, of,

48:15

of churches and of elders who are, who are

48:17

examining what they're doing, who are challenging what they're

48:19

doing when they get out of line. They need,

48:22

they need the church, the local church to be

48:24

connected with them. Now I don't know whether or

48:26

not these people were, or were not connected to

48:28

a local church. Let's just assume the best that

48:30

they were. That's critically important. Now let

48:32

me, let me add a little bit of information.

48:34

Let me, I think what

48:36

I've read, I think one of the people was

48:38

from Nashville, but the rest were from

48:41

around the country. So

48:43

maybe they were working with a local church here,

48:45

but I don't think they were residents here. So

48:48

go ahead and continue. No, I, I,

48:50

I appreciate that, that, that info, that,

48:52

that kind of thing is important because

48:55

often in this kind of environment, uh,

48:57

where people can, you know, get notoriety if

49:00

you know, and get attention, uh, I think

49:02

it's critically important that these people are connected

49:04

to a local church to keep them accountable

49:06

in these instances. So those are, those are

49:08

kind of my, my general thoughts about, about

49:11

it. Initially seeing the story as

49:13

it unfolded. Verder,

49:16

do you know anything about the law

49:18

and, and, you know, enacted in 1994,

49:20

do there is, as

49:25

I set and thought through it this

49:27

morning and yesterday, it's like, I get

49:29

why they have this law because people

49:32

have targeted abortion clinics

49:34

for bombings and other acts of

49:36

violence. And so I, I

49:38

get why they have this

49:41

law. Do you have good law, bad

49:43

law? Yeah, no, no, it was, it

49:45

was, you're, you're spot on in the

49:48

70s, uh, in eighties,

49:50

uh, Jason, there was, there was, it was

49:52

called the rescue movement. Uh, and

49:54

what the rescue movement did was they did these

49:56

very kinds of things. They would show up in

49:58

mass and block the entrances. to

50:01

abortion clinics. There were some who were kind

50:03

of, you know, went

50:05

out and did things that they shouldn't. There

50:07

was violence perpetrated against these buildings and the

50:09

like, and so folks thought that that was

50:11

the right way to go about it. That's

50:14

one of the reasons why I emphasize the

50:16

importance of these people, if

50:18

they're gonna go out and do this, being connected

50:20

to a local church to whom they can

50:22

be accountable. We are a

50:24

people of laws, right? And as believers in

50:26

Christ, we should uphold the laws as Anthony

50:28

laid out. So

50:30

when you do that kind of thing,

50:33

it causes reactions. So what happened in

50:35

the 90s was the legislators and those

50:37

who were deciding about how

50:40

to protect the women who

50:42

were wanting to have abortions,

50:44

decided that they needed legislation.

50:46

So this is when

50:49

the FACE Act came into place,

50:52

freedom of access to

50:54

clinics and entrances came into place. And

50:56

so I think it was done under

50:59

Bill Clinton. He signed off

51:01

on the law and it was

51:03

in place. And what it allowed to

51:05

happen was it allowed for the actions

51:08

taken to be federally

51:10

enacted. In other words, this was not

51:12

a misdemeanor anymore. Like a lot of

51:14

times folks would interact with police, it'd

51:16

be a misdemeanor, they'd go away, but

51:18

now you're talking about felony and very

51:20

serious charges at that. So again, counting

51:22

the cost is incredibly important. I've been

51:24

at abortion mills where folks would try

51:26

to make claims that you

51:28

crossed the line, that you did something

51:30

you weren't going to do. So it was

51:33

imperative. I wore a camera on my chest

51:36

for the very purpose of protecting myself when

51:38

I was out in those spaces so that

51:40

if someone made a claim that I did

51:42

something or

51:44

someone perpetrated violence toward me, I

51:46

had it on camera and you

51:48

could see what transpired. So

51:52

Anthony, what advice

51:55

would you give your congregation or

51:58

just fellow Christians What

52:00

are the one, two, three, four things

52:03

we should be doing

52:06

regularly to support our

52:08

pro-life position? So it

52:10

has to be well thought out. If

52:12

you're going to take the step towards going

52:15

to these abortion clinics and doing these

52:18

types of things, you've got

52:20

to think way beyond this moment. And

52:22

sometimes when you are being led by

52:24

the spirit and you're being moved by

52:27

your conscience, you say, okay, I got

52:29

to do this. That's good. But

52:31

we've got to also use the wisdom that God

52:33

has given us to think it through. So have

52:36

a plan of execution and think

52:38

not just about that moment, because

52:40

there are so many moments that come before and

52:42

after. I've known those who have gone

52:45

to abortion clinics who, yes, we're trying

52:47

to prevent the abortions and we're trying

52:49

to help and counsel, but then there

52:51

are also those who are counseling those

52:53

who just have had an abortion, who,

52:55

man, because of what they're going through,

52:57

because of the guilt, because of where

52:59

they are in space. Man, we've got

53:01

to help you to get even better

53:04

in your space. So

53:06

it's a holistic thought, thinking it through, coming

53:08

up with a plan. As

53:11

Virgil pointed out, if there are organizations

53:13

making sure that they're tied with a

53:15

church that has oversight

53:17

over this, that has protections

53:20

for you, and obviously be

53:22

prepared, expect the

53:24

best, but be prepared for it to

53:26

go potentially to prison. Let

53:28

me say this too about what's happening

53:31

more recently with this FACE Act. It

53:34

was initially, obviously, about blocking

53:36

entrances, but now

53:38

they're tacking on other dimensions to this

53:40

to say, man, you are causing harm

53:43

to these people because

53:45

they cannot express their freedom. And

53:48

so they're tacking on other stuff on top of it. Even

53:51

if you were, let's say you're at

53:53

a particular boundary way beyond the clinic

53:55

limits, and you

53:57

just want to holler at them as they're

54:00

protected. pulling in, well now they'll say

54:02

you are blocking the person behind them.

54:04

So you may have more than one count

54:06

of this versus just you having them. So

54:09

it's getting really, they're getting very strategic.

54:11

And as the scripture indicates us,

54:13

we must be as

54:15

crafty as serpents, but humble as

54:17

doves. So Virgil, part

54:19

of me

54:21

trying to be crafty is it's why I like pre-born

54:26

and I like taking the

54:28

proactive step of like I'm supporting

54:31

someone who's just trying to give

54:33

a woman access to

54:36

an ultrasound so that she's

54:38

more informed about, no,

54:40

that's a baby. Don't let them trick you into

54:42

thinking that's a clump of sales. And

54:44

then the other thing I like about pre-born, and this

54:47

is not a commercial for pre-born, but yes it is,

54:49

is that they also provide support the

54:51

first two years of that baby's life outside

54:53

of the womb. And so it's not just

54:56

the, Hey, you had a baby and you're

54:58

off on your own. And so that's

55:01

in, you know, that's why I

55:03

love pre-born. I think it's a way, but,

55:05

but what are other ways we

55:07

can help fight this

55:09

war that we have about the

55:12

sanctity of life? No, I

55:14

love, I love what you're saying in this with

55:16

pre-born Matt, what, what, what

55:18

Anthony is saying as well. I think what

55:20

I've learned in this process is that there

55:22

are a variety of different things

55:24

that people can do. I

55:26

had, you know, I'd watched some videos, a dear

55:28

friend of mine by the name of Tony Miano, and

55:32

a pastor here, one of the deacons

55:34

rather here at the

55:36

church that I attend, Bobby McCreary, they

55:38

go out regularly to the abortion

55:40

meal. I was moved to go be at that

55:42

frontline. I wanted to be a voice

55:46

for the voiceless. I wanted to preach the

55:48

gospel. I wanted to rescue those

55:50

who were being led to the slaughter and

55:54

so that was my motivation, but others, there were,

55:56

there are other people who want to do something,

55:58

but don't feel compelled to be in it. that

56:00

space. And I think it's important that we

56:02

don't shame those folks, right? I think a

56:04

lot of times when you're in

56:06

the heat of the things and you're on the front

56:08

line, so to speak, the idea is, well, if everybody's

56:10

not doing what I'm doing, then they're not doing anything.

56:13

And the reality is that we need everybody to be

56:15

doing something. I would have people who would never go

56:18

to the clinic with me, but who knew

56:20

that I was headed there who would

56:22

pray for me. That was critically

56:24

important. I had people at

56:26

the church. That's why I say it's important to

56:28

be connected with a local church who would call

56:30

me and say, if you ever find a young

56:32

lady who's in need of housing, maybe

56:35

her boyfriend is in a bad situation and you

56:37

know, she's in a bad situation and needs a

56:39

place to stay. Call me.

56:41

I had people who if someone

56:44

needs some money and we can do it in

56:46

a discreet way and we find out we bid

56:48

everything. We did that all

56:50

the way up through and to Jason

56:52

adoption. I had people on the phone,

56:54

literally a phone call away from me

56:57

that if I, so I would, I'm at

56:59

the abortion, I can tell a young lady,

57:01

don't go inside. There's someone who loves you

57:03

and cares about you and wants to care

57:05

for your baby. Would love to, will have

57:07

to work with you to adopt your child.

57:09

Let me give you a real choice rather

57:11

than the one that you think you have

57:13

to do, which is to murder your child in

57:15

the womb. You don't have to do that today.

57:17

So I could call out to them and then

57:20

share with them the message of the gospel. The

57:22

whole reason that I was there was because Christ

57:24

came, lived the perfect life and died of death.

57:26

I could not, I could not die on my

57:28

own, right? And pay for my own sins, but

57:31

that they didn't have to cover up their sin

57:33

by murdering their child. But this was an opportunity

57:35

for them to, to, to see God's hand in

57:37

their lives. And so it was a wonderful way

57:39

to do it. A lot of different people are

57:42

part of that process. It requires everybody

57:44

at every different phase, engaging

57:46

and acting. And, and you know, if, if

57:49

none of those things appeal, then men are

57:51

pre-born as an option. There are other ways

57:53

to do it, but I do believe all

57:55

of us need to be engaged in this

57:57

very important issue. Gentlemen,

58:03

I don't, only

58:05

because Anthony's a sports

58:08

fan and so I'm putting a period

58:10

on that conversation. I don't want anybody

58:12

to get upset when I transition to

58:14

a lighter bit of a conversation. I'm

58:16

doing this mostly for Anthony's benefit because

58:18

he's a big time sports fan. Anthony,

58:21

I do, I want your thoughts as

58:24

a sports fan and a little bit as a minister.

58:26

What do you think about this Taylor Swift controversy? Oh

58:29

my goodness, it is, it's

58:32

overblown. I

58:34

think the NFL, right

58:36

now because we're in such a trend space,

58:38

the NFL is obviously going to lean into

58:41

it. It's making them money, etc. But

58:44

the fans are seeing through that. And

58:47

so that's why it's such a turn off

58:49

because now I have to watch a football

58:51

game and every time Kelsey makes a catch,

58:53

every time that she's do well, it

58:56

is their story, their this, that and the other.

58:59

I mean, if it's a genuine relationship,

59:01

if you know celebrities, if it's genuine,

59:03

if it's real, God

59:05

bless. But I would hate for it to

59:07

turn sour because then we've been duped

59:09

into this all sports season long. Part

59:12

of me says in virtual, I

59:14

know you're a sports fan too, so chime in

59:16

here. But part of me is like, Hey man,

59:19

for years I would see

59:21

him pan into the stands

59:23

and there'd be some fat guy like me

59:25

with his shirt off. Boy like,

59:27

yeah. And I was like, I

59:29

think I'd rather see Taylor Swift than me with my

59:32

shirt off. Oh, come on,

59:34

man. That was football. That's what

59:36

you, that's what you knew that they expect. When

59:38

you pan through, you're going to see all

59:40

the cheese heads. You're going to see the

59:43

fat guy with his shirt off. That's the

59:45

game. But this is like, okay, every time

59:47

he catches every, if they just score it,

59:49

he doesn't even have to catch it. They

59:51

pan up to her to see her smile

59:53

and to see her interacting. It's a little

59:55

bit too much. Virgil. This

59:58

is a, this is a sigh out, man. is an

1:00:00

absolute psy-op. It's

1:00:03

gearing up for an election

1:00:05

cycle when she, she's, not

1:00:08

that her popularity needed more of a boost,

1:00:10

but in front of those NFL fans now,

1:00:12

she's in front of them and can, when

1:00:14

she begins to push her left wing agenda

1:00:17

on everybody, it'll be something that, they've

1:00:19

warmed up to her a little bit

1:00:21

as they've watched her cheer for Kelsey

1:00:24

and the Chiefs and all of that.

1:00:26

I just, I think it's an overblown

1:00:28

psy-op, it's irrelevant, we should

1:00:30

ignore it, but I know we won't, it's

1:00:32

the nature of where we are in the culture

1:00:34

today, it's a sad shame. It

1:00:37

emasculates the game

1:00:39

of football, absolutely emasculates the game of

1:00:41

football. I

1:00:44

agree a little bit there, I

1:00:47

don't think she's gonna have any impact

1:00:49

on the election and I

1:00:52

just, I think people

1:00:55

have just made a mistake complaining about it. It's,

1:00:58

who else, who else? Who else? We

1:01:01

do that with any other celebrity

1:01:03

couple. Yeah! No, no, it's

1:01:05

only Taylor Swift. How

1:01:07

many youth sports all your life,

1:01:10

how many pro football players have

1:01:12

dated actresses and all that, then

1:01:14

they have come to the game, sometimes they

1:01:16

just sit in the box, anyway, it's just

1:01:18

because it's Taylor Swift. How many Lakers games

1:01:20

do I gotta look at Jack Nicklefu? That

1:01:22

way it comes to every game. Completely different,

1:01:24

and completely different arena, they don't do that

1:01:26

with every other arena. I've been

1:01:28

to sports games where there are celebrities, they

1:01:31

do that in LA, because that's a part of

1:01:33

LA, they do it in Madison Square Garden, but

1:01:35

they don't do it everywhere else. They're gonna follow

1:01:37

her wherever the game goes. It's just

1:01:39

Taylor, it's not, all

1:01:41

these other celebrity couples, they're panning up

1:01:44

there for Taylor because she has made

1:01:46

them about, what, $300 million, I

1:01:48

think? Allegedly.

1:01:50

Yeah, allegedly. Well, I know

1:01:52

for a fact, I'm not gonna have a comment, because

1:01:55

I don't wanna bait Virgil into,

1:01:57

you know, lying. Shake

1:02:00

it off and Taylor Swift is on

1:02:03

Virgil's playlist. Oh, I know. He

1:02:08

is a Swifty. I don't understand why he's

1:02:10

taking on like this. Anyway,

1:02:14

we'll play some harmony. I'm not even going

1:02:16

to comment. Go ahead, Virgil. No, I've got

1:02:18

zero to say about that. All

1:02:21

right, he's a Swifty. All right, we'll play some

1:02:23

harmony and we'll see you tomorrow. Come

1:03:00

on, baby. Come

1:03:02

on, baby. Come on,

1:03:05

baby. I'm

1:03:08

a neighbor. Are

1:03:11

you a lover? I wanna be

1:03:15

a lover. I'm a neighbor. You

1:03:20

are my lover.

1:03:23

You are my lover. Oh,

1:03:27

baby, so much older. I'm

1:03:29

gonna do something more. I

1:03:32

wanna be a lover. I

1:03:35

wanna be a lover.

1:03:38

I'm here to give you a

1:03:40

love. I'm a

1:03:43

neighbor. Oh, you have

1:03:45

to tell me. I wanna tell you

1:03:47

now. I

1:03:49

wanna be a lover. Oh,

1:03:57

no. tone

1:04:09

ya oh

1:04:35

wow oh

1:04:43

yeah oh

1:04:53

oh