0:15

live. We're live. We're live. What's

0:18

happening? There's

0:20

a casualist opening the show over. I was just

0:23

fucking I was ripped apart. I thought

0:25

we were off camera. Grew me.

0:27

Chad demonstrate, I gotta pinch 389. The whole fucking

0:29

show. I just need it.

0:32

The holy 389. Like, listen. I got

0:34

enough of this. Hey, everybody. There's

0:36

the show face. Hey,

0:38

kids. It's Fatman and beyond. I'm

0:41

I'm Kevin Smith. I am not

0:43

chasing music. I'm Mark Pringart. Yay.

0:47

Holy crap, man. As you can see,

0:50

I'm still trapped in time in my 389

0:52

basement in the seventies. Mark

0:56

though got an upgrade. I did.

0:58

Looking me at 389. of justice. Yeah.

1:00

Meanwhile, at the hall of justice, how

1:03

are you, my friend? I'm I'm doing well.

1:06

I'm doing well. I'm a I'm

1:09

I'm I'm busy, but

1:11

busy is good, 389 rather be busy

1:13

than not. The end of this year is

1:15

no no fucking vacation. I

1:17

get that. Are

1:20

you working on a thing other than the thing? I know

1:22

you're working on? Yes.

1:27

Yes. A couple of other things. One

1:31

of them is a comic book thing. One of

1:33

them is a television thing. But, yeah,

1:36

man, it's it's 389

1:39

hustle zone. It'll take a

1:41

day off for Christmas, and I go back to

1:43

work. Well, me

1:45

and Mark are working on a thing 389.

1:51

thing that we don't own, but we're working on.

1:55

That is taking up the pretty much the end

1:57

of my ear. 389 sounds like Mark's got something

1:59

in addition to that. And

2:02

I'm planning for the future.

2:04

And the future may involve a

2:08

a halt of actions if you're a writer.

2:12

Is that right? Is there strike coming? There's

2:15

a strike on the horizon. We'll see if it happens.

2:17

For what? Why are we mad now?

2:19

Why am I Okay. Only why am I?

2:21

Only why am I angry? Mhmm.

2:24

I think the the bulk of it is

2:26

over streamers. And

2:29

the lack of residuals, the shortened

2:32

episodic count, the

2:35

the it 389 gotten harder residuals

2:37

is really the big 389. But it's gotten harder

2:40

and harder to make a living

2:42

as a writer than it ever has been before.

2:45

The money is good, but it doesn't last,

2:48

and it's harder to get the second and

2:50

third and the fourth job. Used to

2:52

be in the in the grand whole days of television if you worked

2:54

on fucking magnum BI. Yay.

2:57

She wants to hear about writing.

3:00

She's always wanted to be a writer, and I tell her,

3:02

it's a tough fucking racket. It's

3:04

I I'm not that I don't believe you can't

3:07

do it, but it's hard. It's hard for a Let

3:09

alone someone with no thumbs to

3:11

speak of. So you 389 to Mark.

3:13

He'll tell you. He'll tell you how fuck it difficult. It's

3:15

tell her Mark. I mean, if you were if you were on a

3:17

network show, then you worked for forty eight

3:19

weeks out of the year, you know, maybe

3:21

forty five. You know, if you had couple weeks off,

3:23

maybe a month on hiatus, and you went back to work.

3:26

Now I'm working a full

3:28

job is twenty weeks. And

3:31

that means that's another thirty

3:34

two weeks that I gotta figure out what to do

3:36

to make my 389. And it's harder

3:38

to get a second job in that year.

3:40

It's hard to get a third job in that year.

3:43

And much of that is because of streaming. See,

3:46

you lost her already. Yeah. It's hard. She's not

3:48

committed. She no commitment to the arts. Or

3:52

a TV show about some of Huggies making a movie

3:54

or TV shows. I can do 389, but

3:57

I don't even have the patience for the real real.

3:59

And then I'm pissed 389 the real real. And so 389

4:01

used to happen was if you had a show, if you

4:03

wrote an episode of fucking Matt Lock, you

4:05

were pretty much guaranteed that that episode of Matt

4:07

Lock would be drunk. And marie runs,

4:09

and it happens in the actual season, and then

4:11

it was after that. And then it showed tone

4:13

of syndication, and it'd be on the air. And every time

4:16

and air, you get money for Fatman

4:18

that used to be how lots of writers sort

4:20

of made there in between times, which

4:23

is, hey, I wrote an episode of Friends. Look, I

4:25

got another check for having written that episode of Friends.

4:28

What the streamers those residuals are

4:30

done because that money

4:32

used to come from new advertising. License

4:36

fee gets paid for an episode, 389 that

4:38

work sells advertisements against

4:40

that license fee, and then you get a little

4:42

tiny some of cash

4:44

and that's gone. So

4:47

there there are lots of grievances that 389

4:49

have, the contract that the writers Guild of

4:51

America, the least then West has with the

4:53

studios, expires, I

4:55

believe, in May, and then we start

4:57

renegotiating. And

5:00

it could very welcome to a hit because

5:02

what writers want will be expensive.

5:05

But at the end of the day, I think 389

5:07

necessary. And it's always

5:09

hard 389 money. From studios despite

5:11

the fact that they have lots of memory. You

5:14

are one of those cats that

5:17

is always on that. I'm

5:19

like, 389. Whatever

5:21

they give me, I guess, is fine. I never

5:23

confuse you to feel like 389 be

5:25

Oliver. I feel like Please,

5:28

sir. Can have some more? What

5:34

do we do? Do we strike? Do we march?

5:37

You know, the the first thing is negotiate.

5:40

See where that comes to, if it's an impasse, then

5:42

the guild will ask for strike authorization vote.

5:45

Which is they 389 the membership if if

5:47

this comes to pass, would you strike? Would

5:49

you would you ratify the 389 strike?

5:52

And if that strike ratification vote,

5:54

is in the high ninety percent of

5:57

of the membership, then that is another

5:59

bargaining tool, which is, hey, guys, we're going to Village.

6:01

Right? You don't want us to stop working because we

6:03

start working, then you start making things. You

6:06

know, unless it's unscripted, that was

6:09

that was what happened one of the last times

6:11

we went on strike. 389, hey,

6:13

look, it's suddenly reality TV is

6:15

a thing that's happening because you don't technically

6:17

need writers for that. I thought you were hundred percent

6:19

new writers for that. You just call them teachers. And

6:23

so and the last rider strike lasted about hundred

6:25

days, and that

6:27

is not good for anybody's business 389 shut

6:30

things down. Somebody

6:32

in chat, Jeremiah Maxwell, said Warrior

6:34

None just canceled. They canceled Warrior

6:36

None as well. I thought that was doing well. They

6:38

did. I mean, the first season did very well, and then

6:40

the second season came with zero

6:42

marketing money behind it, and so zero awareness

6:45

generated for it, and then nobody

6:47

watched it. Everybody

6:50

watching Wednesday.

6:52

Everybody's watching Wednesday, Thursday.

6:55

Can you 389 the can you do the dance? I

6:57

am no, man. I'm fifty one years old.

6:59

I can't do that dance. I'd break, like, eight

7:01

things. I have not even seen

7:03

the dancing question. My kid loves

7:07

the Wednesday 389. She loves

7:09

that girl. It was Jen Ortega. She's like, oh,

7:11

that girl's fucked. Apparently,

7:13

the old fucking agrees because a billion

7:16

streams or something like that. Yeah.

7:18

And and, like, that's part of the issue is

7:20

that you can never tell what's gonna be hit for Netflix.

7:22

Because they never they're they're not

7:24

transparent with their numbers.

7:26

So you don't know, well, who's watching, what

7:28

unless they tell you? And then

7:30

you never know who where they're spending

7:33

their marketing money. You

7:35

know? When is this 389 strike

7:37

that I'm just honestly hearing about for the first

7:39

time. When is it set to happen?

7:41

I 389 a lot of writing jobs lined up

7:43

this year. 389 wouldn't be you

7:46

know, think the contract is up in May. There's always

7:48

chance of her extensions. There's always chances it doesn't

7:50

happen. Because

7:52

I think everybody's beginning to realize that

7:54

streaming is not the the font.

7:57

It's not the fountain of gold. Than everybody

7:59

thought it was because you spend a lot

8:02

with no guarantee on making a 389, and they

8:04

were measuring it in subscriber in

8:06

new subscribers to the streaming services, and

8:08

there are about so many people who will subscribe to 389.

8:10

And so can you keep spending two

8:12

hundred million dollars on a show if you don't

8:14

get any new subscribers for? And

8:18

so now we're watching

8:20

lots of these streamers say, hey, you know, we're adding ad

8:22

supported models. Because

8:25

now we have to make money. So, hey,

8:27

Netflix, who said we would never have commercials,

8:30

is about to have commercials. Everything

8:33

old is new again.

8:37

In fact, I remember when we were 389 when

8:40

we were 389 thing for about a year.

8:42

And this is two thousand and seven me and

8:44

Scott Mosier doing smart cast. 389 like

8:46

an old man telling the story.

8:50

You know, the the it wasn't even a year. We

8:52

were six months in maybe. And

8:55

the podcast had been successful.

8:57

It's because there's nothing else out there. You gotta

8:59

remember, we pre 389. You

9:02

name a 389, we beat it. Like we

9:04

were the first. So

9:06

389 for, you know, Adam Curry,

9:10

arguably the father of 389

9:12

and Godfather of podcasting. And

9:14

Leo 389 who was in the space when I got

9:16

here with this week in 389. There's

9:20

nobody else here. So SModcastcom

9:23

was pretty popular. And

9:25

I was like, all podcasting is free. This is

9:27

awesome. And then care

9:29

of my business managers. Like, here's a bill

9:31

for a thing called the server, and

9:34

it's very hot. And it was lot of money. I

9:36

was like, what the fuck is this? This is and

9:39

she said, this weird podcast is. Everybody that

9:41

downloads 389, hits your stream,

9:43

it costs us money. I was like, I 389, podcasting

9:45

was free. She's like, for everybody else,

9:47

yes, for the podcaster, apparently.

9:50

No. So We're

9:52

find a way to pay for it. Wasn't

9:55

even think about making money or turning into business?

9:57

I just like podcasting. I didn't wanna have to

9:59

pay for it and shit. So

10:02

I I remember I said to Moshe, I was

10:04

like, hey, man. Like, we

10:06

got a a fucking letter

10:08

and email. Some

10:10

flashlight 389 we referenced them

10:13

in Zachary Mary Megaporno. And they said if you

10:15

ever 389 do Kevin's bit of flashlight, we'd do

10:17

one. I said, I do want that.

10:19

I said, but more than that, I would like them

10:21

to sponsor our podcast.

10:23

There's a remember the way, like, quiz

10:26

show in that movie quiz show, 389,

10:28

sponsored twenty one. I was like, can't we 389,

10:31

like, a Gerrital? And he goes, what, like, fucking

10:33

Pampers or wonder bread to sponsor our

10:35

partners, they're like, 389.

10:37

Maybe they'll do it. And we reached out to

10:40

flashlight, and they were like, yeah. Okay. We'll pay

10:42

for it. And that

10:44

was how we started doing it.

10:47

We'll be doing 389 about thirty

10:49

fucking seconds kids. And

10:51

it all started many years ago

10:54

with asking a a fucking male

10:56

fuck toy company for

10:58

a few bucks so that I

11:00

could speak my mind, free speech

11:02

-- Mhmm. -- on the 389 and shit. So

11:06

a 389 of that story is

11:08

rambling when I forget what it was. I

11:10

I knew there was a relevance somewhere. It's

11:12

it's whatever is free, it's

11:14

not free for everybody. Yeah.

11:17

Oh, oh, no. I think my point was we

11:19

all think like like, I remember being like,

11:22

oh my god. I'm I'm figuring this 389.

11:24

And we will get someone to pay for

11:26

their ship. And that's the fucking TV

11:28

model and radio model going back

11:30

to the beginning of time. Like,

11:32

you know, that's

11:35

right. Folks don't touch that dial. There's

11:37

always something that's

11:40

selling the thing that you wanna

11:42

see. And for a while, with

11:45

389, I was like, oh, well, I don't remember. That's not

11:47

here, but it is there. It was there as well. We

11:50

went right into the same fucking model

11:52

that had preceded us so many times.

11:55

I think 389 was more of my point. Everybody thinks

11:58

they're creating something new. Like, you know, Netflix

12:00

are like, oh my god. It's like a

12:02

public utility. The font has been

12:04

turned on and it'll never be turned off because

12:07

389 is what we're used 389, and life will

12:09

always be the same. And Netflix

12:11

is like, we're a futuristic 389 company

12:14

HV0 MYS, we are the fucking

12:17

future 389 we're the edge. We're edging

12:19

motherfucker. And then eventually, they

12:22

389 get to We're

12:24

gonna do 389 just like everybody else.

12:27

Yeah. The future is the past kids. We

12:29

need your fucking money. I think their business

12:31

model was built on growth. And at some point,

12:33

you run out of people 389 sell things to. Like,

12:35

they literally 389 into every country they could expand

12:38

into. And it's like, and we found it.

12:40

There are x number of people who want we're

12:42

giving it to all of them. So now how

12:44

do we make more money on top of this when

12:46

we had been designed to be a

12:48

sharp 389 swimming and eating is

12:51

we gotta sell some ads you guys. Welcome to the

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13:00

the tail is all this time, Mark, sponsored

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13:04

me tell you something about you know, remember

13:06

a couple months ago in HBO Mac X is like,

13:09

we're killing this. We're killing that. And everybody

13:11

was like, this guy's nuts. Oh,

13:13

he's sitting on Earth, David Zaslow and

13:15

shit. Now it just turns out everyone's

13:17

doing the same fucking thing because they're he just

13:19

he just beat them there. All

13:22

the streamers are like, This

13:25

shit's too expensive to kill that kill

13:27

that. But too too too I

13:29

mean, 389 thing that 389 is doing,

13:31

which is little bit in cities. Is that

13:33

not just as he canceling shows, which

13:36

everybody cancel shows, that's fine.

13:38

It's canceling shows

13:40

that have already been produced like,

13:43

they just apparently pulled the plug in season to

13:45

a mix, which

13:48

was about a a it

13:50

was 389 play girl

13:52

magazine type thing with

13:55

Jake Johnson who was the publisher

13:57

of a Oh, wait. Yeah.

13:59

The agent. Go show. I watched the HBO show.

14:01

What did I do in the second season? They

14:03

hit they were, like, seven and

14:05

a half episodes into their eight episode order, having

14:08

shot at all. And then they killed

14:10

the show. And not

14:12

only they're killing the show, they're pulling

14:14

it from HBO Max. So

14:16

that they you 389 no longer

14:18

see the show. But what? You

14:20

can't even watch season one at Men's? No.

14:22

They're gonna pull it from the service because The 389

14:25

for that kids is that they gotta pay people

14:27

for that show. It's

14:32

not okay. 389 Joshua

14:35

389 and Chest says, not okay, but Zaslow did

14:37

that because of post merger tax loophole. They

14:40

can only do once if they never make

14:42

money. That's true. Yeah. I mean, he he

14:44

he just made a business decision,

14:46

which, of course, he disappointed a lot

14:49

of us who were like, oh, man, they're just gonna make everything

14:51

we ever want from now on. That's what it looked

14:53

like at the beginning of the streaming wars is, like,

14:55

oh, we got fucking Fatman,

14:57

the series. Like, you know,

15:00

after decades of people, like, fuck 389

15:02

runs at this and unable to do it. There's

15:04

literally a season one of fucking

15:06

salmon. 389 was an era of dreams.

15:09

Come 389, but it looks like that error is coming

15:12

to a close. And now, fewer dreams

15:14

are gonna be dreamed or those dreams are gonna be

15:16

brought to you by dominic Yeah.

15:18

Mean, 389, like a billion people

15:21

389 Wednesday. Did a billion people

15:23

sign up for Netflix because of Wednesday?

15:26

Or did the billion people who had already subscribed

15:28

to it watch because one of

15:30

them is more valuable to them than the other.

15:33

And that's that's part of the ongoing

15:35

issue of many of issues

15:37

with them so that the place we are now

15:40

in televised entertainment. 389

15:42

fraught and evolving,

15:45

and it's gonna be painful 389 it figures

15:47

itself out. 389 you

15:52

know, striking

15:56

is going to hopefully

15:59

open up the purse strings a little bit from the

16:01

places that that's always the

16:03

hope. That's always the hope. And it's figuring

16:05

out a way to return

16:07

to a version of 389. That

16:10

allows everybody to make

16:12

more money, including

16:15

their studios, I think they'll find. Bilibili

16:18

of Pain and Chacos why can't we just go back

16:20

to a channel on TV

16:22

for shows and not have to buy everything?

16:25

Because we we didn't want that anymore.

16:28

No. Like, we wanted pretty new things.

16:30

Yes. We wanted pretty new things. We 389

16:33

to be able to cut the cord. Remember

16:35

that? We all hated the cord. Never

16:37

noticed the chord before until they started

16:39

streaming. then suddenly, we're like, oh, fuck out.

16:42

And we all cut the chord. And and

16:44

that's what everybody was like, oh, wait. We could

16:47

charge them for every single channel

16:49

now. Like, remember he used to pay, like,

16:51

eighty bucks a month to get all of this 389?

16:54

You cut the cord and now you pay nine ninety nine

16:56

for end services, and now you're paying more

16:58

for the same thing you used to get, but no commercials,

17:00

etcetera. How do you have commercials? 389

17:02

hey, you got squid game, so fuck

17:05

you. 389 you get squid game.

17:07

Periodically 389 a stranger thing.

17:10

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17:15

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17:18

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17:20

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17:22

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17:25

was involved with the show. This was a show. I remember

17:28

from the jump, he was like 389 together a show

17:30

based on the Adams family. It's with the guys who

17:33

did Smallville. And I was

17:35

like, that'll never work. No. I'd 389

17:37

say that. I'm a guy that looks like, that sounds great.

17:39

It did sound great. And it turned out, like, Then

17:42

he was like, Tim Burton's doing him. 389 the

17:44

fuck? oh

17:46

man. Like, 389 dude's

17:49

they 389 love him at Netflix right now

17:51

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17:54

I 389 a billion views and stuff.

17:57

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17:59

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18:01

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18:03

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18:07

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20:43

sponsorship. That's that's the way fat man

20:45

and beyond. Is just like

20:47

Netflix. We also need

20:49

sponsors. We're all competing for

20:52

the same 389 somewhere some Netflix

20:54

exec is like, 389 do you mean? We

20:56

lost 389 a fat man and beyond.

20:59

Goddamn it. mean,

21:02

dude. Just We just made somebody's fucking

21:04

end of year really hard. I

21:06

just as BlueJeans would have it. DJ

21:10

eighty three says no need to go to the North Pole this

21:12

Christmas. Use blue chute and your pole

21:14

will be facing north. Okay.

21:17

And I hear that one of the soccer men. Yes.

21:21

Strong bachelor's degree. That

21:23

is this fantastic. 389 Christmas Christmas

21:26

is coming, hard. 389.

21:31

Chuntbucket. 389 that Chuntbucket asked when are you

21:33

gonna direct Kevin James in a movie? I

21:35

think he would be great in tusks. That's

21:38

a great idea. I do 389 put Kevin James

21:40

in a movie. I was so 389 Jane

21:42

and Bob 389, not begging

21:44

Kevin James. We'd even

21:46

go to him. Somebody could've 389. I didn't need to be

21:49

there. When a fist comes through

21:51

the wall, he should have been cockknocker.

21:53

And he just could have said his catchphrase,

21:56

which I'm sure I've never seen it, but I imagine

21:58

it's something like I'm just 389.

22:01

And then, you

22:04

know, shit writes itself. Was

22:08

your mom comp? I'm your mom

22:10

comp. Exactly. Yeah.

22:12

That's right. Ballboard to the rescue, whatever

22:14

the fuck is. That's The the

22:17

Hold

22:17

on. The day would say snooch to

22:19

the booth or whatever fuck them. We're out. Credits.

22:23

Picture right there. Picture 389 there.

22:26

389 me calculate. Can I review picture that I

22:28

saw? Oh, please do. Tell

22:30

me. I keep wanting to call it, meet

22:32

the fabletins. I don't know why, but it's just

22:34

the fabletins. Have

22:36

you seen this? I have not seen this television

22:39

picture? Well, Mark, I

22:41

happen to own a motion picture theater.

22:44

SModcastcom cinemas where I'm sitting

22:46

above right now from the top of

22:49

389 Castle cinemas. That's where I'm broadcasting

22:51

from right now. So I have

22:53

access to movies all day long. That

22:55

being said, it's available on home video and I watched

22:57

it on iTunes. But We hooked

22:59

it up to a screen 389, so it was just

23:02

like the cinematic experience, 389

23:05

a fucking picture this is? I mean,

23:07

we all knew from that trailer. Steven

23:10

Spielberg doing his childhood, his secret

23:12

origin. Why I

23:14

am this guy? This is a marvel movie. It's

23:16

literally the secret origin of a fucking superhero

23:19

man. A beautiful

23:21

story of life and

23:23

family and how wonderful

23:26

and messy it all could be. Most profound,

23:28

like, views a few of them, a

23:30

few lines that, like, really hit home from

23:32

from that

23:33

movie. 389 the one

23:35

that, like, oh, god. It's in the first ten minutes

23:37

maybe with a movie and hit me so

23:39

hard was

23:42

389 me see. You go the line

23:44

is, it's

23:47

easy to love it. It's easy to love something.

23:49

You have to take care of it. was like,

23:51

oh my god. I

23:54

I work my whole life. I won't I won't write

23:56

something as beautiful

23:59

or as 389 perfectly

24:01

fucking 389, is that? Is

24:04

that Tony Cushman Imagine? Really

24:06

was. That's what I thinking, man. Some of the 389,

24:08

you know, it's Spielberg's life story and and like

24:11

lot some of them if you've listened to Spielberg tell

24:13

stories about his childhood over the years. It's like,

24:15

oh, shit. Oh, shit. I

24:17

heard this story. Oh, shit. And then I'll, like, dramatized

24:20

versions and stuff. But, yeah, I 389

24:22

imagine Tony 389. Kai

24:24

who wrote angels in America probably

24:27

wrote the line, you know,

24:29

you can't just love a thing. You gotta take care

24:31

of it. 389 me find the other lines that I

24:33

fucking loved. I was was

24:35

watching I was I was perusing the TikTok

24:37

as I now want to do. And I

24:40

saw this sort of clip of Spielberg

24:42

in twenty eleven being

24:44

interviewed by Favreau and

24:47

and Spielberg was telling him a story from

24:49

his child. At the time he met John Ford.

24:51

And he was, like, nine or ten years old.

24:54

And so they had put the footage

24:56

from the movie at the bottom

24:58

of this thing. So as he's telling

25:00

the story, you're watching the same

25:02

exact stuff happen and literally was

25:05

now ten years apart. Like, he

25:07

389 end comes Jack 389. He's got, you know,

25:09

kisses from makeup all over his face,

25:11

then a second 389 goes in his office, says

25:13

you 389 five minutes or I may be one. And

25:15

then she walks 389 with his Kleenex 389

25:17

filled with red lipstick on like,

25:19

as he's now writing it is what you're seeing in

25:22

that Like one of the best one

25:24

of the absolute best scenes of the movie is the last

25:26

scene of the movie as matter of 389, is

25:28

Young Spielberg. Finally

25:30

gets 389, you

25:33

know, the 389, so to speak. He's

25:35

been sending out all these letters and guy

25:37

at CBS is about to do Hogan's heroes,

25:40

interviews with him about being an assistant

25:43

to an assistant to assist and he goes, but

25:45

you don't 389 to be in TV. Go as Granny,

25:47

man. As fuck, Greg Grumberg plays the guy.

25:49

Okay. As much as the guy, I was like

25:51

fucking Granny. And he's like, you

25:53

don't wanna be in TV. He wanna make

25:56

movies. He's like, you know, one of the greatest

25:58

director. The greatest director ever lives right across

26:00

the hall. Big dig's been

26:02

there to John Ford's office. And early

26:05

in the movie, of course, Youngs Spielberg has gone

26:07

to sea. Like the Man who shot

26:09

Liberty Balance amongst other

26:12

John Ford movies. And fucking

26:15

John Ford has played fantastically by

26:18

David Lynch. And

26:21

he comes in and, like,

26:23

you know, it's kind of almost quiet word

26:25

of this performance, but it's it is 389

26:27

plays out. I watched that clip

26:29

as well, but I didn't see it with the clip

26:31

of the movie attached to it. I just remember that interview.

26:34

And I went and looked it up and I saw it last

26:36

yesterday and I played it. The

26:40

gist of it is is just so

26:42

simple and wonderful. Spielberg is

26:44

meeting a god of

26:46

direction, and Spielberg is you know,

26:49

they might as well call this movie Malcolm Gladwell

26:51

the movie because it's all about his

26:54

ten thousand hours to get to jaws.

26:56

You know 389 I'm saying? To get to become one of

26:58

the greatest filmmakers ever. And you see that this

27:00

kid started when he was 389 a wee

27:02

lad. Fucking four or

27:04

five years old or whatever. There

27:07

are many moments throughout the movie if you're

27:09

a creative person, you know, 389 if

27:11

you're greater person. It's like I fancy myself

27:13

a director that your heart will

27:15

be cleaved in twain by things that

27:20

seem to come out of your own life

27:22

to some degree. But the

27:25

scene at the end, you watch him grow up, you finally

27:27

becomes like this young 389 bless

27:29

him. He hired a short actor. Like,

27:33

that's the running, like, the gist of

27:35

this movie. Is a constant reminder

27:38

of how short 389 Spielberg is because

27:40

the guy he cast to play him is also

27:42

kinda 389. And at one point he moves 389, like,

27:44

Northern California, and he's surrounded

27:47

by these, like, you know, arian gods

27:49

who were all fucking 389 and shit. They

27:51

fuck 389 them. I had no idea that he got,

27:53

like, pushed around for fucking being

27:55

Jewish and stuff like that. But

27:58

there's this you

28:00

know, the end sequence is him on the lot meeting

28:03

with fucking John Ford John

28:05

Ford's like David Lynch playing

28:07

like essentially 389 Lynch as John Ford.

28:09

It's just like screaming his lines.

28:12

And he's like, what do you know about art? And

28:14

he's just like, ugh. I he goes, no.

28:16

Go over 389 painting right there. He goes, tell

28:18

me what you see. And he's like, okay.

28:20

There's two cowboys on horse.

28:22

He goes, no. No. Where's the horizon?

28:25

And he 389, and it's like, it's up here.

28:27

And he goes, okay. Go to the other one. Go to that

28:29

other PATTINSON'S. And 389 goes, tell me

28:31

what you see and he starts describing it again.

28:33

He goes, no, 389 it. Where is the

28:35

horizon? And 389 like,

28:38

well, I guess it's it's down here. And

28:40

he goes, okay. Come back. He comes back to

28:42

the desk and he goes, When the horizon's

28:45

on the bottom of the frame, it's interesting.

28:48

When the horizon's on the top of the

28:50

frame, it's interesting. When

28:52

the horizon's in the middle, it's

28:54

boring as shit. Now

28:56

389 the fuck out of my office. Good luck

28:58

to you, and that was it. That's piece of advice.

29:01

So it's wonderful. Wonderful little story

29:03

chip, but this is and I'm gonna spoil the end

29:05

of the movie kids, but it's I got it because it's

29:07

so fucking lovely. 389 scene

29:10

happens. And the boy,

29:12

man, Spielberg, the young man leaves

29:14

the building and, you know, grabs

29:16

the railing. He's there. Official. He's

29:18

he's made it. And

29:22

he walks out down the

29:24

lane in between all of

29:26

these sound stages and

29:30

he's heading straight toward the horizon,

29:33

which is in the middle of the frame, and

29:36

the frame dramatically readjusts

29:41

to put the horizon on the bottom of

29:43

the fucking frame. 389 is

29:46

so beautiful. For that shot alone,

29:49

give the man an Oscar. 389

29:53

I loved it to death. And it's a very personal

29:55

story about him and his

29:58

his and particularly him and his mom. He

30:00

389 a tight relationship with his mom. You

30:03

can't just love something. You also have to

30:05

take care of it. You

30:07

do what your heart says, you have to because you

30:09

don't know anyone in your life. 389 even

30:11

me. That's what his mom says to him. My

30:13

mom was always the opposite. It is always the opposite.

30:15

She's like, you know, I you hold me your life. I'm

30:17

like, I know. We've

30:23

come too far in our store to actually say the

30:26

end, oh, whole fucking movie.

30:28

It's too heartbreakingly fucking

30:30

beautiful. I

30:33

hope they 389 a boatload of Oscars. You

30:36

know, I he's, of course, an amazing filmmaker

30:38

in his husband and 389, but he's now at

30:40

that place in his life where, you

30:43

know, I've been reflective about who the

30:45

fuck I am since the beginning. You

30:47

know, I I am in the work. This is

30:49

he's one of those old guard guys who

30:52

he observes, doesn't absorb. Right?

30:54

He's an artist. You

30:56

know, it takes a while for those cats

30:58

to go deep. You see their life and their work.

31:00

Like, we've seen, you know,

31:04

Spielberg always having

31:07

strong female role models, like mothers,

31:10

single mothers, and stuff. And that, you know, that was

31:12

always kind of woven from his own experience

31:14

and stuff. But this is a

31:16

very professional, very

31:19

personal journey 389, like, what

31:22

makes him tick and who he is. And that's just something

31:24

that that generation of filmmakers, you

31:27

know, I I was way moreenable Daisy.

31:30

I came in going like existential

31:33

me. Those cats came in going

31:35

let's entertain and fuck me. I'm I'm trying

31:37

to make a picture here. And now he's

31:39

old enough and and, you know, comfortable enough

31:42

and who the fuck he is where he's

31:44

like, you know, what would be fun? I'm gonna tell

31:46

stories about how the fuck I got here. I

31:49

remember hearing an interview with him. I

31:51

can't remember who it was with. It might have been the

31:54

guy inside the actor's studio. 389 was a

31:56

long form telewise interview. And he

31:58

was talking about the fact that as you say, like,

32:00

you know, I didn't often put myself in 389, but

32:02

my my stuff is in the work like 389 on

32:05

the up until, I guess, this point was

32:07

maybe his most autobiographical thing,

32:10

not that he ever hung out with Allianz, but,

32:12

you know, grew up in a in a single

32:14

mother household and had know, younger

32:16

sister and older brother, and 389 that domestic

32:19

world was his domestic world. But then

32:21

the interviewer was like, well, let's talk about

32:23

close encounters. He's like, well, let's And

32:26

it's like, I find it interesting that,

32:28

like, what did your father do? It's like your father was and

32:30

my father was a computer program. And what did your mother

32:32

do? My mother was a musician. 389 and

32:34

so how do they talk to the aliens at the

32:36

end of this movie? It's like, will they use

32:38

computers to generate music? And

32:41

like you can see, 389 had never actually

32:43

put that together before. Like he

32:45

never quite got that he synthesized

32:48

his mother and his father as a conduit to

32:50

speaking to somebody that nobody could speak

32:52

to. Mhmm. Because the math

32:54

and music. The math and music. And he

32:56

was like, holy shit. Like, 389

32:59

been there the whole time. It's like it's kind of always

33:01

there the whole time. It's just where you're pointing

33:03

the camera. And this time,

33:05

it seems like he's pointing camera directly at

33:07

himself. Yeah.

33:10

It's good shit, man. There's a one moment

33:13

where he's a boy and he they 389 him to

33:15

see the greatest show on Earth and, like, there's

33:17

a train wreck in that movie. And,

33:19

you know, they show a full movie house.

33:21

That alone, like, made me fucking well

33:23

up. Mhmm. A time when,

33:26

you know, movie

33:29

going to the movies was a fucking huge event

33:32

and you couldn't find an empty seat. And

33:34

the young boy is watching this train wreck and

33:36

you know, it captures imagination. And

33:40

he asked for a train 389.

33:43

And, you know, he 389 tries to recreate

33:45

the crash and and his

33:47

mom's trying to figure out she's like, well, he's trying

33:49

to control it. Like, he's

33:52

trying to control what makes him scared. God

33:57

389 so good. And so she gets up

33:59

a camera and she's like,

34:02

you do it once. You

34:04

make the train crash, you do what you needed

34:06

to do, and you

34:08

film 389, and then you can make 389, then

34:10

you can watch it over and over and over. And

34:12

you could control it. And so he does. He

34:14

shoots then he takes his mom into

34:16

a closet. Oh, god. Is

34:19

is hell if you're a filmmaker and you watch his movie?

34:22

389, like, 389 her out of.

34:24

It takes her into closet to show this movie.

34:28

And it's, like,

34:30

the crash over and

34:32

over and over from,

34:34

like, a hundred different angles. And

34:37

he's, like, I had to crash

34:39

the train more than once, but I think it was

34:41

worth 389. Nothing broken 389. And

34:43

his mom, like, loves it. And right

34:45

then and there, you know,

34:48

all the fucking all

34:51

this all the ingredients 389 the gumball are

34:53

present to make the world's greatest

34:55

filmmaker. He's fucking starting at age five,

34:57

six years old. Most

34:59

of us are, you know, fucking picking our noses

35:02

and shit like that. This kid

35:04

has a camera in his hands when he's a child.

35:07

And like and that's something that happens now,

35:09

like, fucking crazy. But you're talking about

35:12

the early fifties or some 389 like

35:14

that. Oh, it's wonderful. I

35:17

yeah. I is I think it might be

35:20

389 clerks three, my

35:22

favorite film of the year. 389.

35:24

I'm a big Kevin Smith fan. So there's no way

35:26

that anything was beating closely. It's

35:29

like that movie was made for

35:31

me. So, boy, I love that movie. But,

35:34

yeah, this one is fucking right there and

35:36

considering I couldn't tailor

35:38

make it myself. It feels as if

35:40

it was tailor made for

35:42

me. Beautiful experience. It's so worth

35:45

everybody's time. Yeah. I figured

35:47

maybe, you know, we'll we'll see what the schedule

35:50

looks like. But the next podcast, if it's

35:52

next week, which think we we might

35:54

contractually bound into this week.

35:57

I might have my top ten of the

35:59

year list by then.

36:02

And I will do my I will do my level best

36:05

to see fabletons before we do that cast

36:07

so I can see if it'll make the cut. Yeah.

36:10

Oh, it's a wonderful flow. I

36:12

389 it downstairs in theater one. Okay.

36:15

That's cinemas wear on

36:18

New Year's Eve kids. What are you doing

36:20

for New Year's Eve? Come spend

36:22

it with me at McCastle doing

36:25

a New Year's evening with

36:28

Kevin Smith, ladies and 389. Ring

36:31

in the New Year with me and 389

36:34

of cinemas. They'll

36:36

be boos. There'll

36:39

be me, and we'll be chit 389, and then all

36:41

of a sudden, it will be twenty twenty three.

36:45

Building the schedule for the forthcoming six

36:47

months is my gas incentives just went through all

36:50

the new releases. Everything that's coming

36:52

out between January

36:54

and and June. And

36:56

now we're gonna start laying in all the

36:58

events and and

37:01

programming on would you like to hear

37:04

Would you like to leave me your home phone number?

37:07

That's for a man, Hunter? I'm

37:10

gonna 389, 389 going

37:13

on? What's going on the sketch? Where

37:17

are you, Kev? Okay. Here we

37:19

go. Mary Marvel

37:21

marching society, of course, series

37:23

of movies that made me such a bunch of movies

37:26

that were influential and like what

37:28

I became. 389

37:31

on Batman. We're gonna be

37:33

showing Batman movies once a month. Nice.

37:36

Watching with this 389? Brad

37:40

Pack, films of John Hughes, Shore

37:42

389, Fatman SH0RE

37:45

movies made in New Jersey. 389,

37:49

which you dock out, the films of Malcolm

37:51

Ingram, Rousche Man, the

37:53

films of Josh Rousche, Eyes

37:56

of Mark, Movies

37:58

with Mark Bernardin. 389

38:01

guest, Sunday morning mass, and hummus 389.

38:03

Guess what that is. Clark's

38:07

open all 389. when we show all three Clark's

38:09

movies from midnight till six in the morning, then

38:11

eat breakfast catered by quick 389. Bear

38:14

is driving the clerk's cartoon marathon.

38:19

Simon Bob speaks, talking over a move

38:21

of his commentary track screenings. We've done two of

38:23

those so far. 389 the escape

38:25

universe. The film to Kevin 389. Directly

38:28

responsible filmmakers at Smock

38:30

House. So, like, last week, we had Tar

38:32

Fire One and Tar Fire Two there. And

38:34

Fatman Leonie and Steve

38:36

Uncle Creekie, the producer. He

38:39

came they both came with the cast and crew

38:41

and we had a fucking packed house, man. It was

38:43

wonderful. And then I interviewed

38:45

them afterwards. We'll be doing the same thing with

38:47

the Russo brothers in the first six

38:49

months of next year, James Gunn, Zach

38:51

Snyder's bringing 389 league. Jason

38:54

389, Jason Muse, the

38:57

other 389, Jason. He directed a movie.

38:59

He's coming. I'm gonna get Scott Mosier

39:01

to come bring his Grinch movie. He's director too.

39:04

And we're gonna do an o g clerks

39:06

three script reading, like the script

39:08

that we didn't shoot and 389. Oh

39:11

my god. Such good times, man.

39:14

Excellent. What are you gonna bring for

39:16

the eyes of Mark? Oh, I had a

39:18

list. I had a list. And I did I feel

39:20

like we shouldn't keep it a surprise. Okay?

39:24

No. I'll play you. I'll play your game Bernardin.

39:27

I'm all God's surprises. I mean, we'll

39:29

we'll we'll tip it, I think later,

39:31

closer to the date when we expect people to buy

39:33

tickets. 389 I think

39:35

it's gonna be stuff that that does mean

39:38

quite a bit to me 389

39:40

I have never seen on the big 389. I

39:44

know one. Hell

39:48

yeah. My streets of firefields. That's

39:50

pretty good. I'll name in the rockers.

39:53

Somebody was like, 0JL

39:55

Alibaba says, we need more Smart Castle

39:58

cinemas across the world.

40:01

You can get that at streaming services. Sounds

40:03

fun as fuck.

40:04

No. Streaming

40:06

makes my job so much harder. I'll be

40:08

honest. Yeah.

40:11

No. We're it's experiential with

40:14

389, And we're gonna try to make one

40:16

work. I'm not some people

40:18

have been, like, franchise and I'm, like, we 389 started.

40:20

But I will say this. Can I share something with

40:22

you? Please. And,

40:26

you know, Ashley is my partner She's

40:28

the Math one. It's me and Ashley

40:31

and Jeff Swan, Ernie O'Donnell. Tony

40:36

who was the guy that reopened the theater

40:38

after the pandemic. So

40:41

Ashley did the oh, shit. My light went

40:44

on. Ashley did the math

40:45

Yeah. Mine mine kind of just blew that

40:47

on me. There he goes. Are

40:51

you there? I'm here. Okay.

40:53

The she did the math

40:56

on which we call 389, our

41:01

first two months. We took over September

41:04

October. So in September

41:07

October, we wound

41:10

up There

41:12

we go. Doing

41:15

as much as the theater did the whole previous

41:17

year. So 389

41:21

key to that is just, you

41:24

know, grossly overcharging for

41:26

every 389. That's 389

41:28

was my big fix. I was 389,

41:30

ten dollars a ticket. What if it was seventy

41:33

five? And 389.

41:35

We've had a few cool events and shit that that

41:37

packed the people in and stuff. But

41:40

once again, we're in a fucking when you

41:42

own movie theater, you you think

41:44

you're in the arts kids, but really you're just

41:46

in the fucking candy business. That's all.

41:48

So 389 concessions have

41:51

gone up considerably as well. 389

41:54

the next, you know, course of action

41:56

mark is to secure

41:59

a liquor license. Like

42:01

389 movie theaters, it'd be nice to be able

42:04

to serve booze for

42:06

people who, like, come in going, like, I

42:08

would love to fuck and just sit here

42:11

and have a few drinks and watch movie

42:13

and shit like that. So that's

42:15

next. In early twenty twenty three, that's what

42:17

we'll be. Pursuing smart

42:21

389 and the most kids. Come on 389. It's

42:23

good times. Oh my god. Good

42:25

times. That means finding a bar that's shutting

42:27

down is willing to sell you their liquor license.

42:30

Because Jersey, unlike lots of other

42:32

places, has 389 so many going around.

42:35

389 true. You know, here we are talking about a

42:37

fucking liquor license

42:39

and fucking bars and shit and, like,

42:42

Neither of us have either of those,

42:44

but we know a guy who does a 389, Banff,

42:47

Fatman is here. Look at my Banff.

42:49

Hey, kids. This is Banff. Bar Fatman

42:52

himself. How goes this coming

42:54

389 Cantina, sir? Last

42:58

Saturday was our busiest non

43:01

May the fourth, Saturday ever.

43:04

It was crazy. And

43:06

we're open for lunch on Saturdays now

43:09

but even 389, even if you just

43:11

take the hours that we were

43:13

open, they've got it

43:15

was LA Comic Con, and

43:17

they've got that Empire 389 back

43:20

Burlesque show happening down the street.

43:23

So we are the the pre

43:26

and post hangout for

43:28

all of that. So it's it's been good.

43:31

It's been busy. I was

43:33

explaining to some cats over here. About

43:36

Scum and Billing. 389 like, how is he

43:38

like how come Disney hasn't

43:40

done that. And I was like, because 389

43:43

don't own the words. Scum or

43:45

villainy or 389. Yeah.

43:48

Also, you know, I've

43:50

spent five years trying to sell

43:52

the fact that we are not from

43:55

a particular franchise. You

43:59

know, it's I

44:01

like to say it's like the

44:03

Oasis from ready player one.

44:05

You would if you were to build a bar

44:08

in the virtual reality world,

44:10

you would start with a framework that

44:12

feels familiar, and then you would add

44:15

stuff to it 389

44:18

make it a reflection of all the things

44:20

you love, not just a dogmatic, narrow,

44:24

banded, little thing 389, you

44:26

know, because 389, like, we want

44:28

people who don't like Star Wars to come

44:31

as well as 389 who like Star Wars,

44:33

you know. 389,

44:36

yeah, it's I mean, 389 fun. Thanks

44:39

a guy. My dream is

44:41

that you you bring

44:43

a scumming

44:45

villainy to the 389 Coast.

44:48

Stick it up my smart castle's ass. That

44:50

would be amazing. That's we

44:53

could probably make that try to make that

44:55

happen at least. You know a guy?

44:58

I I know somebody who has a

45:01

space in New Jersey I know

45:03

somebody who knows a finger to about running

45:05

a bar now. So God.

45:08

You got your chocolate and my peanut butter.

45:11

So, yeah, what you have to do is ask. You don't

45:13

have to talk about it.

45:18

Yeah. I think we can we can

45:21

we'll we'll talk. We'll talk. We'll

45:24

see. 389.

45:29

Shall we hey. Did you see fablement yet?

45:34

I have not seen. I have not.

45:38

III

45:40

have to be careful. I've shot all

45:42

the Hollywood 389 roundtables. And

45:45

there's a lot of really fun

45:47

dragon fuck you. Look look at 389 pulling

45:50

his huge shock out. It's not a 389.

45:54

Or Fatman, when he's not doing

45:56

this, and then not owning a

45:58

fucking huge bar in Los Angeles

46:00

right in Hollywood on Hollywood Boulevard. He

46:03

shoots all these round table videos that

46:05

irritatingly pop up in your feet all the 389.

46:07

So -- Yeah. -- this talks to this

46:09

fucker and shit like that. JC is the one

46:11

that shoots it. Yeah. So

46:13

there's a lot So you're not allowed

46:16

to say who you shoot, but if anybody watches them,

46:18

they know who you shoot. Correct. But

46:20

we've only done writers so far.

46:22

But I guess I'll tease that there's

46:24

a lot of fableman's coming

46:27

up So there's lot of really good

46:29

behind the scenes stories about that.

46:32

I also have to

46:34

be careful on

46:37

how I say this. I'm really curious

46:39

to see it because somebody

46:43

who I live with signed

46:46

an NDA years ago

46:48

and had been working with a certain

46:50

family to

46:53

do a restaurant. And So

46:59

they redid this restaurant

47:01

that I can't say the name of. 389

47:05

I got a lot of behind the

47:08

scenes stories while

47:10

they were redoing that restaurant as an

47:12

homage to that person's mother after

47:14

she passed. So I have

47:17

heard a lot of those

47:19

stories about a certain family

47:22

kind of 389 389

47:24

I'm very interested to see how they're dramatized.

47:28

I feel how fans feel.

47:30

Hopefully, I don't get sued. Yeah.

47:33

That's good. And I feel like that was artfully

47:36

done. And I you you are so obscure.

47:38

I forgot who to fuck your it Anyway,

47:41

it'll be fun to watch. Meet the

47:43

fan meet the favorites. That's

47:46

what I keep on 389. It's just the 389.

47:48

Did at one point used to be called Meet the

47:50

Fableman's or

47:51

something? Or is this a 389 Bernardin

47:54

kind of thing. I think in your head, you have meet the fiebles,

47:57

then mating with You

48:01

know, Jackson movies in my head? It's

48:03

yeah. I went in looking for 389, and I was

48:06

like, well, you know, puppets. Every searing

48:08

family drop up but no problem. 389

48:11

been better with parts? I'll just say that.

48:15

Wait. You both saw Andor. Right? I'm still

48:17

a Yeah. On episode. That's

48:19

389. But you you guys wanted to talk about

48:21

that a lot of people 389 chatter like andor

48:24

andor. I'm like andor what?

48:26

And they say andor. Oh, yeah. You

48:30

know, I will I will defer to the Star

48:32

Wars expert currently on the podcast

48:35

with us. I will just say

48:38

389 is one of the best TV

48:41

shows I've seen this year. I'm

48:43

389 surprised that you're talking about Tony

48:46

Gilroy. Yeah. Like, I mean, never

48:48

mind the 389 Wars of it all. Tony Gilroy

48:50

is a bit fucking this guy Fucking

48:53

wrote. Michael

48:55

Collins. Clayton. 389

48:58

George. This

49:04

is why I can never be a lawyer. The most dramatic

49:06

moment of the case. Hey, I'll get wrong.

49:08

Michael Collins 389 a game. Yeah.

49:13

389 the the invitation over there. I know 389 a

49:15

c word. I know it's a c word. I know it's a c word. No. No. That's funny.

49:17

Roland dies on college. See 389 I do.

49:19

I appreciate that. One of the greatest

49:21

screenplays, I think, ever written and shit.

49:23

So Yeah. And then is the man

49:26

responsible for fucking Darth

49:28

Vader being villainous 389 the first fucking

49:30

389, like, since he stepped

49:32

on an old man's suit on the ground

49:34

and shit. With that

49:36

ending in rogue one, like, he I is

49:38

is he finally copying to it? Everybody fucking

49:41

finally knows he's the guy that literally

49:43

the guy that did that part of the loop. So

49:46

it stands to 389 that Andor

49:48

would be good.

49:50

To to some people. Some people like you don't

49:52

seem to like it, but you some people

49:54

you'll never be pleased about Star Wars. Fuck.

49:56

There's a lot of violence But you're a you

49:58

I trust. So both of you I trust. 389

50:00

was your take on? You're you just

50:02

said it was one of the best TV shows ever.

50:04

What value Fatman? I feel like Andor was

50:07

so good. We as Star Wars fans didn't

50:09

deserve it. Like, I watched

50:11

the whole show. I you know how

50:14

much I paid for Disney plus I deserve

50:16

it. Let's deserve all of 389. It was

50:18

so good. 389 also I

50:21

389 made, like, Darth 389

50:24

not in it all, they don't even reference

50:27

Darth 389, but it somehow

50:29

made the empire more

50:32

scary than if it

50:34

was just like the Darth Vader Show.

50:37

Like the Empire is more scary in

50:39

Andor than it is

50:42

in Rogue One or a new

50:44

hope or Empire 389 back. Like, it's

50:48

frightening how brutal

50:51

it is. I

50:53

saw something I know people are like, it's

50:55

slow. It's boring. I've had

50:57

big Star Wars fans 389 me they don't like it

51:00

because there's no myth in 389. Like,

51:02

you know, Star Wars needs laser swords

51:05

and and and brown robed

51:07

wizards. But,

51:10

man, it's I I think

51:12

I'm stealing this from somebody on 389, but

51:15

They said that Andor is

51:17

not a show necessarily

51:20

about Cassie and Andor, but it's a show about

51:22

rebellion as a whole and what

51:24

rebellion looks like and

51:27

how it gets going. And

51:30

then, like I said, it's, like, similar

51:32

to the movie traffic where you're,

51:34

like, who's the main character

51:36

in the movie Is it 389 Del Toro?

51:39

Is it Michael Douglas? Is it Katherine Zeta

51:41

Jones? And it's just kind of like

51:44

the idea of drugs,

51:47

that's kind of what Andor is for rebellion.

51:49

And it's just it's got some of the 389, like,

51:54

speeches the characters give,

51:56

I just it's it's

51:59

too good. I'm terrified that it's going to

52:01

not get a second

52:02

season. Because every shoots

52:04

can't cancel. Got it. They're,

52:06

like, literally in in a day,

52:08

shooting it. And

52:10

I think that Tony Gilroy wouldn't have signed on

52:12

unless it's like, if we're doing this, then

52:15

we have to do it. And you have to want it and commit

52:17

to it. And,

52:19

yeah, I mean, it's he seems as

52:21

a as a storyteller very interested

52:24

in the in the mundaneity

52:27

of rebellion. You're like, where did the

52:29

money come from? How do you

52:31

how do you support it economically? How

52:33

do you how do you emotionally

52:36

manipulate people into doing a thing that's

52:38

against their, what they think is

52:40

their best interest. You know, the Stone

52:42

Skarsgard 389, like his whole thing

52:44

is, We have to make it awful

52:47

for people to live under the empire.

52:49

We have to make it worse. Otherwise, they'll

52:51

never rise up. And so how

52:53

can we make it worse for them first?

52:56

And that is like a long game that nobody

52:58

in Star Wars 389 ever been played before. Mhmm.

53:01

And the Monmouth and stuff as the

53:03

as the financier of the

53:05

rebellion is just 389 heartbreaking

53:08

that the lengths to which she will go. To

53:10

see to it that the rebellion has the

53:12

cash to keep operating,

53:15

you know? And she will mortgage her She

53:17

will mortgage her friends. She will sacrifice everything.

53:20

To be that lady, we then see 389

53:23

about, you know, many bath and spa's

53:25

dying to bring us this information. Her

53:27

fucking family gets put on

53:29

the block to bring us this information. It's not it's

53:31

not, you know, it's

53:34

it's real for her in a way that it's not

53:36

theoretical. And,

53:39

yeah, there's it's 389 is just

53:41

so good. It is it is

53:43

the thing that I think. And yes, listen, Mandalorian,

53:46

There are parts of that that I do love, but

53:48

that is a nostalgia exercise. And

53:50

the more nostalgic it gets, you know,

53:52

I think 389 the less effective

53:54

it is. But

53:57

this is the show that I kind of expected that

53:59

we would get in the Mandalorian place, which

54:01

is a reward for people

54:03

who are now in their forties and fifties, who've

54:06

grown up with Star Wars. We now want

54:08

Star Wars to meet them at that level. Where's

54:10

the 389 still a kids show? And I've

54:12

said time and time again that is not a

54:14

rock that is not a pejorative. There's nothing wrong

54:16

with it being a kids show. I love kids shows.

54:20

389 this is very much a complicated, dramatic

54:23

exercise, and I'm here for

54:25

it. And I

54:27

Yeah. It just it I think

54:29

it lives better also because

54:31

we have the Mandalorian to

54:34

satisfy the

54:36

child part of Star

54:38

Wars, but in a world where we get

54:41

new Star Wars every other month,

54:44

there's no reason why somebody can't make

54:46

a show that's emotionally

54:50

complicated that, you know, isn't

54:53

just like, this this guy is the good guy. This

54:55

guy is the bad guy in baby 389 cute.

54:59

He's cute. It's

55:01

the benality of evil. Mhmm. Got

55:04

it. Speaking of the benality of evil

55:06

kids, No joking

55:08

389, space, cosplay. Put

55:11

up this comment, ready, is my life.

55:13

I'm just sitting here doing a show. Did

55:15

I say anything remotely controversial tonight?

55:17

Kids so far? K. Here

55:19

you go. No joking 389. Space

55:22

cosplay, go find him if you want. He's

55:24

389 here in the YouTube 389. Says,

55:26

when did you go from a good director to

55:29

a Hollywood sellout? I

55:31

don't know when that was because I've

55:33

never been a good director and I'm not

55:35

a Hollywood 389 otherwise I'd be fucking fabulously

55:38

wealthy. Fatman was

55:40

horrible. 389, go

55:43

broke, which is why we got season

55:45

two coming next year. Should

55:48

have let the heart attack do

55:50

its thing and go out

55:53

on top such a

55:55

disgrace. I would have went out with yoga

55:57

hosers. Was that Pete Kevin

55:59

Smith? Did you love yoga hosers?

56:02

No. You piece of 389. You didn't like that either. So

56:04

if I would have died when he wanted me to, I

56:06

would not be going out on top. How

56:09

fucking weird and wild that somebody

56:12

feels that way, Mark, that they're like, you should have

56:14

died because then he wouldn't have made

56:16

Fatman, kids.

56:22

Kids, let's find no joking

56:24

matter space cause play

56:28

and see what he's up to. 389

56:30

how full that his life

56:32

is. Anybody?

56:37

389 fucking crazy dude, not for nothing, but like,

56:39

that's a hateful fucking sentiment. It's

56:41

one thing when a bunch of people are like, stop crying in

56:43

the 389. It's like whatever. That fucking

56:46

make a a current reference piece of

56:48

shit. 389, like, that shit to

56:51

be like, you should have died because your

56:53

opinion is different than mine. And

56:56

that's my life every day. That's one of

56:58

those things that makes you go like, why am

57:00

I doing this? Why am I even on the

57:02

389? Why am I on social media? 389

57:05

become a real, like, negative

57:08

place lately. And mind you, I've been here since the

57:10

beginning. 389 online since,

57:12

you know, you could say, like, I did the 389 last

57:14

night. It was awesome. And you did

57:17

the entire fucking thing. 389

57:20

who needs that? Seriously?

57:22

Like, that's just that's just

57:25

some fucking

57:26

crazy shit. Anybody know where he is?

57:29

I banned him. banned

57:33

him. Let's track him down. Wow.

57:35

I might have kicked him out of chat. That's what somebody's

57:42

like, you've been called Bores 389 Better. 389

57:45

Just takes the one to break the fucking camel's

57:47

back, man, where you're like, oh god, I've had it.

57:50

Like, I don't need that shit.

57:52

I really don't need somebody to be like, you should've

57:54

die from your heart attack because get

57:56

Wilco broke. It's like and number one, you got

57:58

the fucking phrase wrong idiot. Number

58:01

two, like, I

58:04

389 I wanna ruin your night now. Let's

58:07

find him. Know,

58:09

389 a play at this game. I know I'm supposed to be better

58:11

than all this, but I'm not.

58:13

So let's play. Somebody

58:16

wants to fucking have a 389, unless

58:18

I would like to comment on his life or

58:21

her, but let's be honest. You

58:23

know? We know

58:25

his guy. Everyone

58:28

say, fuck that guy, Kevin. Yeah. Of course, fuck that

58:30

guy, but so

58:32

let's fuck that guy. I'm

58:35

not saying, you know, do something hard, but I just wanna

58:37

know who he is. He knows who I am

58:40

and can make personal comments. I just wanna know who he

58:42

is so I can make personal comments. And

58:45

then I'm like, why am I doing this? What is shitty

58:48

waste of time? And that's then I'm like,

58:50

well, and there's social media.

58:53

I've answered my own question. If

58:55

he'd set him a fifty two year old man, but it's

58:57

like, who needs this shit?

59:00

Seriously. Like, there's some fucking

59:03

rulebook that I'm following. Like,

59:06

I do whatever I want in this life professionally.

59:09

Why am I holding myself accountable to

59:11

fucking idiots? Like, who

59:13

are like, you should have died, man, because

59:16

fucking like what you

59:18

did with the email. Oh,

59:21

you trivial thoughts. And

59:23

any of that? An email. Can

59:25

we talk about something else? I I just

59:27

wonder if he canceled his Netflix subscription

59:30

or no? Because Netflix is

59:32

actually who paid for

59:34

everybody? And did he cancel

59:36

Netflix? Or is he still does he still

59:38

pay for Netflix? Because that's that's

59:41

the real measure. Like, are you willing to give

59:43

up stranger things? Like,

59:46

how how

59:48

how strong do you actually feel

59:50

this way? You know? It's

59:53

just like it's

59:56

just, you know, 389

59:59

get to a point where you're like, who

1:00:02

the fuck are you? Like,

1:00:05

put your life up against mine. Ball's

1:00:08

Go

1:00:08

ahead. Fucking like you

1:00:10

should have died. Alright. Let's see how productive

1:00:12

your life has been and whether it

1:00:14

389 warranted you living. 389.

1:00:17

I'm happy present me

1:00:19

on, yeah, long 389, which you got. It's

1:00:22

unbelievable, man. Like, 389 I give

1:00:24

a person like that any amount of my

1:00:26

fucking time. Here we

1:00:28

are still fucking talking about it. You

1:00:35

know, when I was younger, they were

1:00:37

like, you're fucking 389. Now

1:00:39

I'm not. And I'm like, alright. Let's find something

1:00:41

else. Oh

1:00:45

god. These people have been around since I was

1:00:47

a child. That fucking

1:00:50

389 not the same one, but

1:00:53

389 whole life, man.

1:00:55

I can, you know here's

1:00:57

you wanna know my villain my super

1:00:59

villain origin story, Mark? So

1:01:03

I'm nine years old. I recently talked

1:01:06

about this with a therapist.

1:01:10

I am nine years old. And

1:01:12

I'm at the Los Angeles Los

1:01:14

Angeles, Jesus, the Long Branch Boardwalk.

1:01:18

And they got a peer amusement

1:01:21

389. It's got like a fucking haunted mansion

1:01:23

on and shit games, all that shit. They

1:01:26

also have a giant slide. And

1:01:29

so Rose Solo goes. So does people

1:01:32

want does Kevin want people to tune out?

1:01:36

Rosoler, are you the person that's like, I wish you

1:01:38

died of a heart attack? If not, shut the fuck up.

1:01:40

Nobody's talking to you. Jesus Christ. So

1:01:43

at any event, there I am on the 389 slide.

1:01:45

Having a 389. Like, you

1:01:47

know, I'm going up five, six fucking 389. You

1:01:49

go up to the top. There's some teenagers who goes, wait.

1:01:52

Go. And then you go and fucking my god.

1:01:54

Good times. Shirtless. The

1:01:57

last time I was ever publicly shirtless

1:01:59

in my life and here's why I get to the top

1:02:02

of the waterslide, And the

1:02:04

teenager's job, it is to stop you

1:02:06

and let you go. It goes,

1:02:08

oh, whoa. Hold on. You can't go. 389

1:02:10

ladies can't ride the water slide. And

1:02:15

jokes? Oh, yeah.

1:02:17

Jokes. And I had nothing but humiliation. As

1:02:19

the kids behind, we're like, and

1:02:22

I sadly slid down the fucking 389

1:02:24

slide. And I never went

1:02:26

on a water slide again. And

1:02:28

I've never 389 my shirt off in public.

1:02:30

I don't even take my shirt off when I 389 sex.

1:02:33

All because of something some teenagers said when

1:02:35

was nine years old now, 389

1:02:38

moment in time also creates that

1:02:41

Kevin Smith because, you know, fucking,

1:02:43

I toughen up after that. You know,

1:02:45

some people like toughen up, you cry on the 389. Kids.

1:02:52

That was me realizing

1:02:54

I have to be sharper and funnier. 389 never

1:02:56

happen to me again. I will make fun of myself

1:02:59

before I ever let anybody else do that.

1:03:01

And the

1:03:03

long road to being me begins.

1:03:06

So, inarguably, I mean,

1:03:08

I know there are people who like, whoa. Whoa. Go bro.

1:03:10

But, you know, I've had an amazing fucking

1:03:13

life. Way better than I deserve.

1:03:16

Way better than most cats will ever

1:03:18

fucking know, sadly. And

1:03:22

you know, ultimately that motherfucker

1:03:26

making that comment plays

1:03:28

a big role. Now

1:03:33

knowing what I know, having

1:03:35

lived the life that I've lived, which has been

1:03:37

so incredibly satisfying creatively, personally.

1:03:42

All the adventures I've gone up, but

1:03:44

knowing all that and knowing that the price

1:03:47

is that motherfucker making that comment when I'm

1:03:49

nine years old? If

1:03:51

I could go back in time, would

1:03:54

I undo that? And take

1:03:57

my chances living a normal life

1:03:59

that I don't wind up fucking. Maybe

1:04:01

I don't get to do all these cool things. Maybe I don't

1:04:03

get to make movies. 389 I also

1:04:06

am not vexed by, you know,

1:04:08

this comment so much so that it

1:04:10

makes me change the fucking shape

1:04:13

of the universe to to bake up

1:04:15

for some shit that a kid said when

1:04:18

I was nine years old. 389?

1:04:24

I remember having a conversation similar

1:04:27

to this. On

1:04:29

a on a TV show staff about

1:04:31

a character who had endured awful

1:04:34

abuse when she

1:04:36

was younger. 389 that abuse

1:04:39

then turned her ultimately into

1:04:41

a superhero. And would

1:04:43

that person ever want to

1:04:47

willingly go through that abuse again knowing

1:04:49

who it turns them into. Mhmm. And

1:04:51

my response was 389 not.

1:04:54

Like, nobody wants nobody

1:04:56

would actively court Trump. You

1:04:59

know? And I don't I don't think that

1:05:01

if if that character had the chance

1:05:03

to do it all again, she would sign up to do

1:05:06

it all again. And

1:05:09

so, like, yeah, we are the sum

1:05:11

of the roads we 389. We are

1:05:13

the the accretion of our experiences.

1:05:16

And every every

1:05:18

step along the way has slowly

1:05:20

forged us into who we are today. And,

1:05:24

you know, pain is the crucible from

1:05:27

which we survive and

1:05:29

become something else outside of it.

1:05:31

And, yeah, like, IIII

1:05:35

do not have access to a memory like it,

1:05:37

but I have memories like it. And,

1:05:41

yeah, I think all

1:05:43

of my decisions have led me to where I am.

1:05:46

All of my responses have led me to to become

1:05:48

who I am, and I don't think there's a version of that

1:05:50

that I would change in any way. Anything

1:05:54

is necessary, and that's

1:05:56

okay. But

1:05:59

also, I don't have to read the comments.

1:06:05

I'll say. Yeah.

1:06:07

The 389 only

1:06:09

thought on it is, what's the net? Right?

1:06:12

What's the net? Is it net positive?

1:06:15

Meaning, have you

1:06:17

and I mean, I've seen it over, god,

1:06:19

the last decade plus of,

1:06:21

like, walking through a

1:06:23

train station in

1:06:26

manchester 389 and you stopping

1:06:28

to shake every single person's hand

1:06:31

to the point that we're running to make our train

1:06:34

or you know, a

1:06:38

hundred people who come into scum and villainy

1:06:40

every month who are like, you

1:06:43

know, oh, can you

1:06:45

do like, I have access

1:06:47

to JC. JC has access to Kevin.

1:06:49

Can you tell Kevin this thing

1:06:51

or that thing or this story or that story

1:06:53

or the fan mail we

1:06:55

get at Scum and Billy, you

1:06:58

know, every week. Like, all of

1:07:00

that sort of stuff, it's like,

1:07:02

is it worth carrying

1:07:05

the baggage for the last forty years?

1:07:10

How many lives do you change

1:07:12

in the right direction? Chin even

1:07:15

if you have to endure the the

1:07:18

crap to get And mind

1:07:19

you, the endure the 389 I have

1:07:21

to endure are harsh 389. Like,

1:07:24

people there are people in the world who have to endure

1:07:27

physical abuse or worse

1:07:30

to become who they become

1:07:32

for a net positive. I'm not

1:07:34

saying, like, oh, the price that I fucking

1:07:36

paid? I mean, shit. In terms of price, it

1:07:38

was it's been nothing. That being

1:07:41

said, it's like 389 it just piles up

1:07:43

where you're like, Jesus,

1:07:45

like, I you know, I've loved the 389 since

1:07:48

I've been on it since, like, nineteen ninety

1:07:50

five and shit, but, like, sometimes

1:07:53

it's, like, man, it's just a conduit for

1:07:55

people to be so fucking unnecessarily cruel.

1:07:58

And, you know, somebody in

1:08:02

the in the midst of all this in the chat,

1:08:04

doctor McGoyn says, Oh,

1:08:06

no. He says, hell. Yeah. Kevin's life

1:08:08

is net positive. Action figure academy

1:08:11

goes, this is what his takeaway. He goes,

1:08:13

Kevin makes love with his shirt on.

1:08:18

I'm here to tell you that no.

1:08:21

I don't make love with my shirt on because

1:08:23

I don't make love, my friend.

1:08:25

I fuck with my shirt on.

1:08:29

Hard, but with my shirt on.

1:08:31

And if it slips up, I pull it down all the time.

1:08:37

the I've been up with it for

1:08:39

almost a month, and it's been

1:08:41

wonderful. Like,

1:08:45

389 I at first, I thought I was gonna

1:08:47

feel like a gaping hole in my life from not,

1:08:49

like, checking that feed every morning and not

1:08:51

reading replies and all that stuff. But

1:08:54

you know, it it 389 your point

1:08:56

was not giving me very much. Mhmm.

1:08:59

And and and taking more

1:09:01

than it was 389 was giving. And even

1:09:03

just taking time and time ultimately

1:09:05

is the thing that I got back in some semblance

1:09:08

of of balance. And I'm like,

1:09:10

yeah, man, it's this rule number one on the Internet.

1:09:12

You don't read the fucking comments. 389

1:09:15

I I gotta break that rule for this. So Doug Migone

1:09:17

goes, Kevin Picquart during

1:09:19

fuck sessions. Is that

1:09:21

pulling your shirt down? Oh

1:09:27

my god. It was worth it just to get to that.

1:09:30

I have never heard 389 reference before.

1:09:34

Why because he you've I'm not a big

1:09:36

start to cut. Does he pull his shirt down?

1:09:38

Like, to me, that would be that would be

1:09:41

spocking because remember when he gets up after

1:09:43

he fucking know, takes that puts

1:09:45

online, starts it too, and he fixes himself.

1:09:48

Mhmm. But hard to tell.

1:09:50

He does it because whenever he would

1:09:52

stand up, it was it went from maybe one piece

1:09:54

to a two piece, and then the shirt where I was kind

1:09:57

of right up, so then he would just tuck it

1:09:59

down. And then it became this, like, authoritative 389 shirt

1:10:02

of the And, like, it

1:10:04

was always 389 makeup zone number one, and he took

1:10:06

the shirt, and then move on. And so

1:10:08

the idea that you're making it

1:10:10

so. They call it everyone's

1:10:13

like, yeah, dude, it's the picard maneuver.

1:10:15

Man, there's like a separate video. Oh,

1:10:19

that's a steroid bowl. You

1:10:22

can 389 Jordan Peters goes, 389 did

1:10:24

it once. It was a habit forpicard. Every

1:10:26

episode wants it twice. Bookard.

1:10:29

I've totally I've got card all the time when

1:10:31

I found here you go. And somebody was like,

1:10:33

he probably leaves 389 on. I do.

1:10:37

I stay on brand when I 389. Just

1:10:39

in case, 389 somebody comes in

1:10:41

and I'm not wearing the hat, they'll be so disappointed.

1:10:46

They'll be disappointed by a lot more than just seeing

1:10:48

the hat. Seeing the the fucking, they'll be

1:10:50

like, oh my god. He 389 like

1:10:52

he makes movies. And

1:10:54

that depends on how you feel about my movies.

1:10:58

Can they give me couple of 389, Jordan? He

1:11:01

went he went, Wolk, and he's now

1:11:05

his dick is broke. 389

1:11:09

carding. Oh my god. That was so fucking worth

1:11:12

the journey 389 to get there. Okay.

1:11:17

Good times. Where

1:11:19

is that we're going at? I can I

1:11:21

did a thing. Chase

1:11:24

389? On Sunday, I

1:11:27

was hired

1:11:29

to shoot a Q and A with Robert

1:11:31

Downey junior at the DGA

1:11:34

and armament

1:11:36

himself. Iron Tom

1:11:39

Holland and Zendaya 389 in

1:11:41

front of me. Adrian

1:11:44

Brody was there. And

1:11:49

Adrian How do they know each

1:11:51

other? I don't know. I don't know. 389

1:11:54

he was there amongst

1:11:57

some other people I didn't recognize. And

1:12:02

he showed his movie

1:12:04

senior about his dad of

1:12:07

the documentary about Robert Downey

1:12:09

senior. Yeah. -- 389, very

1:12:11

emotional. It's really, really good.

1:12:14

It's really interesting to

1:12:18

see I mean, you can

1:12:20

see in because I

1:12:22

don't know if a lot of people know. Like, his

1:12:24

dad was like a b movie, like,

1:12:27

crazy non 389,

1:12:29

almost like reminds me of, like, if

1:12:31

Andy 389 was, like,

1:12:34

directing and writing movies. It's just,

1:12:36

like, so wacky and bizarre. But

1:12:39

the movie is about he

1:12:42

he wants to make a movie on his dad,

1:12:44

but his dad's like, I'm not letting you make a movie

1:12:46

about me. And he's like, well, dad, then you

1:12:48

can make a movie on you, and I'll make

1:12:50

a movie about you, making a movie

1:12:52

about you. And

1:12:55

it's fantastic. But

1:12:58

the best part was watching Robert

1:13:01

watch the audience watch

1:13:04

the movie he made about his dad was

1:13:08

was awesome because he was like, crying and

1:13:10

389 up and smiling and laughing in the

1:13:12

back of the fader. It was really fun. So

1:13:15

I highly recommend that. Highly

1:13:17

recommend. It's like ninety minutes, easily,

1:13:20

easy to get in there,

1:13:22

watch it.

1:13:24

It'll make you laugh. It'll make you feel some

1:13:26

things. So

1:13:29

you're highly recommending standing

1:13:31

next to Robert 389. Yeah.

1:13:34

Yes.

1:13:35

Yes. If you have an opportunity to

1:13:37

stand next to Tony Stark, watch

1:13:40

a movie. I Ira. And sit behind Ira.

1:13:42

389? It's all 389. Correct?

1:13:45

Senior. Senior. I

1:13:48

wanna see it so badly. I mean, look,

1:13:50

I'm a fucking sucker for a documentary

1:13:52

about a warm documentary about

1:13:54

one's father. But his dad

1:13:56

directed a movie that, like, I've fucked

1:13:59

with throughout my entire childhood. His

1:14:01

dad directed Putney Swope, but that's not the movie

1:14:03

I fucked with throughout my entire childhood. He

1:14:06

directed up the

1:14:08

academy. The mad

1:14:10

magazine movie. Mhmm. The

1:14:14

well, the one that has a lot you had Jessica Walters

1:14:16

in 389. And Ron Liebman was her husband.

1:14:18

And he's, like, the army guy and

1:14:20

he's, like, 389 a yes with a feather.

1:14:22

And she's, like, why? 389 particularly nice

1:14:25

weather. Like, you know, that was childhood

1:14:27

classic 389 National

1:14:31

Lampoon's Animal House, mad mad magazine was

1:14:33

like, we're gonna fucking produce a movie. Or, you

1:14:35

know, there's somebody approach mad magazine to put putting

1:14:37

their name on this movie. And

1:14:39

there was even a statue with Alfredo Fatman

1:14:42

there, which they still have in the DC

1:14:45

warehouse and shit, and Warner Bros. Warehouse.

1:14:47

So yeah, man. IIII

1:14:49

knew the dudes work intimately. This,

1:14:52

I look forward to as a fan, not personally.

1:14:56

Watching it with 389 junior

1:14:58

right there would have

1:15:00

been nice. I wish you would have invited

1:15:02

me. But I'm gonna

1:15:04

stay 389 regardless. It's on 389,

1:15:07

really good, really easy to

1:15:09

watch the 389. Oh, it's it's very

1:15:12

scalable right now? I believe I believe it's out.

1:15:14

Right now. And,

1:15:17

yeah, if any if it's

1:15:19

an interesting look like if you've ever lost somebody

1:15:22

close to you, it's also an interesting look.

1:15:25

There's a scene towards the end where he's

1:15:27

talking to his therapist about

1:15:30

spoilers. What he thinks

1:15:32

may be the last

1:15:34

time he's going to see his father and

1:15:38

you get Like, they just put it in

1:15:41

that session. And a 389

1:15:44

of old home movies of

1:15:47

Robert Downey Junior as a kid growing

1:15:49

up. It's pretty cool.

1:15:51

Like, it's pretty cool. So did understand

1:15:55

him better through

1:15:59

his what his father did.

1:16:02

They address you know, his

1:16:04

father just being like, yeah, do drugs

1:16:07

with us when he was a kid and some of

1:16:09

that. It's it's pretty

1:16:11

389 crazy. It's pretty good. I'm

1:16:14

gonna he'll get up downstairs watching

1:16:16

the theater on the big screen. Some

1:16:19

of it's in black and 389. They did some

1:16:21

of it in black and white. It's pretty cool. Good

1:16:25

for him. He got to do it with

1:16:27

his, you know, make a flick about his dad

1:16:30

with his dad, for his dad, while his

1:16:32

dad was still here and, you

1:16:35

know, given their flowers while they're around kids,

1:16:38

when they're fucking gone. In the

1:16:40

chat, people keep asking me about WW3 three,

1:16:42

and I'm like, is this

1:16:45

one of those, like, when people are like, 389,

1:16:47

man, do you know anything about the alumina? Is this

1:16:49

a Q and A on

1:16:49

thing? But I think they're talking about Wonder

1:16:51

Woman three. Yes. Which we look at which

1:16:54

we 389 get to. We can dive right in if you want.

1:16:56

Let's let's do it. 389

1:17:00

to News, everybody. Yeah. Fuck. The

1:17:02

news is happening, ladies, gentlemen. Hard

1:17:04

389 to hard to track down some

1:17:06

fucking news. The show just derailed for a minute

1:17:08

there. We were suddenly and was like, come on, be nice.

1:17:11

And forgot that I was on the 389. What's

1:17:15

going on in the world of news, former

1:17:17

news, hound, Mark 389? Well,

1:17:20

this week seems to have already

1:17:23

been the last the last, like, seven

1:17:25

days in the new cycle has been

1:17:27

dominated by conversations about

1:17:29

DC. Specifically, the DC movies,

1:17:32

specifically what's happening, what's

1:17:34

going forward, what's not under the new

1:17:36

James Gunn, Peter Safran, ten year.

1:17:38

As the heads of DC 389. The

1:17:41

first chunk of news that came out was

1:17:43

that one to one three was not going forward.

1:17:46

And was considered dead in its current

1:17:48

incarnation. Which I found

1:17:51

little surprising considering I know the second

1:17:53

one underwhelm, but came out during the

1:17:55

pandemic. The first one made a billion dollars.

1:17:57

The first one did incredibly well. The second one

1:18:00

I think even more than its financial issues

1:18:03

was creatively not received 389

1:18:05

well. Personally,

1:18:07

I was not a fan of w w 389

1:18:10

four, at 389

1:18:12

moment, but it wasn't as, you know,

1:18:14

one woman is almost pretty is pretty

1:18:16

wonderful. Superhero movie.

1:18:20

Yeah. One to one to eighty four has

1:18:23

moments. 389

1:18:25

has it has handful of notes. Specifically,

1:18:28

if you don't have magic blocks of 389, all that. That's

1:18:30

what I for some reason, if like,

1:18:32

that that was where I I bumped.

1:18:35

This is I was just talking to somebody about

1:18:37

one to one today and, you know, talking about the

1:18:39

relateability of DC 389. I think,

1:18:41

you know, they're all born in tragedy. A lot

1:18:43

of them are born in the back man born in 389, superman

1:18:47

born in tragedy, wonder woman born of clay.

1:18:50

And the person was like, what are you talking about? It's like, what?

1:18:52

She was formed by Zeus himself.

1:18:54

And it's like, what

1:18:56

do you mean? Like, we're she's

1:19:00

actually on the 389

1:19:04

for a second. I'm live on

1:19:07

I'm on the Internet. Yeah.

1:19:11

Yeah. So

1:19:19

yeah. I 389 and

1:19:21

and again, I'm 389, like, this ain't please don't

1:19:23

write fucking articles. Beth hates one

1:19:25

of them. That's not true at But, you know,

1:19:28

I I

1:19:31

like I like a grounded origin.

1:19:34

I mean, I know, you know, feel good. This guy 389

1:19:37

space and this planet blew up. Now it's

1:19:39

super maybe 389 very grounded

1:19:41

either, but it's a little more grounded

1:19:43

than, like, god 389

1:19:46

some clay and made a wonderful as

1:19:48

a baby. It's like, how do I sell

1:19:50

that? Like, they blew over it so

1:19:52

fast in the fucking movie. Remember? Think

1:19:55

it's like 389 to sell. Exactly. Because

1:19:58

I'm not alone here. Yeah. But

1:20:00

I'm trying to be careful because the Internet will

1:20:02

be like this cry and bitch. Has

1:20:04

such a fucking problem with wonder

1:20:06

and I don't. Yeah. I I quite

1:20:09

like the first movie, at least the first two thirds

1:20:11

of the first movie. I think the finale the

1:20:13

last stretch gets a little 389 a

1:20:15

little too DC comics for

1:20:17

me. It gets little too dark and

1:20:19

swirling garbage rains in the sky

1:20:21

and, like, what what is happening here?

1:20:23

I didn't think we went off them. I thought we were still in

1:20:25

the wonder woman. think

1:20:28

the second film kind

1:20:30

of somehow makes it all about.

1:20:32

wonder in unable. A woman

1:20:35

who didn't even know who men were

1:20:37

at the beginning of the movie is now completely,

1:20:40

like, fucking obsessed with Steve Trevor to

1:20:42

the point where she kidnaps

1:20:44

another dude's body. And

1:20:46

imbues it with the spirit and the essence

1:20:49

of Steve 389, all because she's dick crazy

1:20:51

and can't do without it. I was like, this doesn't

1:20:53

feel like the same character that I saw for. And I

1:20:55

get the characters evolve, but this was not this

1:20:57

isn't some cool evolution. This is some weird

1:20:59

retro regression. And

1:21:02

then it just stopped making a ton

1:21:04

of sense after that. And so I didn't I didn't

1:21:06

fucks with one in one in 389 four that

1:21:08

much. And so then the news

1:21:10

that there wouldn't be A103 didn't

1:21:13

somehow shock me except for the fact

1:21:15

that, yes, Gal Gadot is your 389. And

1:21:17

I think she is a legit movie star. And so

1:21:19

maybe you'd 389 it do that unless

1:21:21

part of what James got at

1:21:23

Peter 389 are doing is wiping

1:21:26

the slate clean. Is like, you know

1:21:28

389, we are we are not going to

1:21:30

continue with any iterations of these

1:21:32

heroes that were part of the

1:21:35

previous run of the DC. Extended

1:21:38

cinematic universe, whatever they're calling.

1:21:40

So no matters 389 two,

1:21:42

even though Henry Campbell said I'll be back in Superman.

1:21:45

Aqua two might be the last time you see Jay's

1:21:47

momoa as Arthur Curry. Who

1:21:50

the hell knows what's happening with the flash movie?

1:21:54

389 that all reports are that it's great, except

1:21:57

troubled for all the reasons why it's

1:21:59

troubled because the star

1:22:01

seems to be in an interesting part in

1:22:03

their lives. Let me ask

1:22:06

this. How is

1:22:09

James gun ferrying on the Internet?

1:22:11

Something tells me people

1:22:14

must have opinions and be blaming

1:22:16

him and and or is

1:22:18

he in midst of a maelstrom? I

1:22:21

mean, he's he's

1:22:23

responding 389, not

1:22:26

to fans per se, but

1:22:28

to some of the press stories about it.

1:22:30

Which is basically you guys don't know

1:22:32

what we're doing 389. You're reporting what feels

1:22:35

like rumors and that's not entirely true.

1:22:38

And there have been a lot of kind of back and forth,

1:22:40

and he said she says. But James Gunn has

1:22:43

said, listen, we're figuring it out as

1:22:45

we go. There's not

1:22:47

going to it's not gonna be a relentless exercise.

1:22:49

Like, they're we're going to have to sacrifice some things

1:22:51

that people love. The hope being

1:22:54

that it will lead towards a more cohesive,

1:22:56

more engaging DC film

1:22:59

enterprise in the future. So we're

1:23:01

in a transitionary phase. He

1:23:03

is him and the it was the other guy,

1:23:06

Peter Safran. Peter Safran. Yeah,

1:23:08

man. Like, that's 389

1:23:13

don't end be having to do that

1:23:15

job. Somebody was like, don't you want that job?

1:23:17

I'm like, god no. Fuck no.

1:23:20

Know, I look forward to what they're gonna

1:23:22

do and 389. But, like,

1:23:24

those poor dudes have gotta go through, get

1:23:26

roasted. I'm sure online over and over

1:23:29

again. In order just to get to their

1:23:32

idea of what it's all gonna look like,

1:23:34

which will probably take a year or two years

1:23:37

minimum. You know what I'm saying? And we live

1:23:39

in the information age where people are

1:23:41

389 speculate. That just seems like an impossible job.

1:23:44

God bless 389 for, like, going

1:23:46

like, hey, I'm a filmmaker and I'm

1:23:48

also gonna do this because

1:23:50

-- Right. All the stuff I

1:23:52

do in addition to being a filmmaker is

1:23:54

fun. That that seems

1:23:57

like, you know, 389

1:23:59

would be fun creating a universe, 389, boy,

1:24:02

you're gonna they're gonna make 389 pay for that fun.

1:24:05

Yeah. Mean, he he released the statement because

1:24:07

all the other one of women's stuff broke 389 a whole reporter

1:24:09

389. Then Gun responded to it,

1:24:12

like, on the 389, And 389 statement

1:24:14

was, like, Peter, Safran, and I chose to helm

1:24:16

DC studios, knowing we were coming into a 389

1:24:19

environment. Both in the stories being told

1:24:21

in the audience itself and it would be an unavoidable

1:24:23

transitional period as we moved into telling

1:24:25

a cohesive story across film, TV, animation,

1:24:27

and gaming. But in the end, the drawbacks of

1:24:29

that transitional period were dwarfed by the creative

1:24:32

possibilities 389 the opportunity to build

1:24:34

upon what has worked in the DC so far

1:24:36

and to rectify what has not. We

1:24:38

know we are not going to make every single person

1:24:40

happy, every step of the way, but we can promise

1:24:42

everything we do is done in service of

1:24:44

the story In the service of the DC characters,

1:24:47

we know you cherish, and we have cherished

1:24:49

our entire lives. As for

1:24:51

more answers about the future of the DCU,

1:24:53

I will sadly have to ask you to wait.

1:24:55

Are giving these characters and these stories the time

1:24:57

and attention they deserve, and we ourselves

1:24:59

still have a lot more questions to ask and 389. So

1:25:05

then the story came that Patty

1:25:07

Jenkins was the one who walked off of

1:25:10

one of Fatman Now that the movie was canceled

1:25:12

is that she decided to leave, which

1:25:16

she then rebutted herself by saying,

1:25:20

No. That's not right either.

1:25:22

And so she had to go on the Internet and clear up

1:25:25

this with a statement saying, and

1:25:27

and 389 into rogue squadron, the Star Wars

1:25:29

movie that she was on, and then left, and then

1:25:31

apparently, is back on again. She

1:25:34

originally left Roke's squadron after long and productive

1:25:36

development period when it became clear. It couldn't

1:25:38

happen soon enough, and I did not wanna delay

1:25:40

one to one 389 further. I did,

1:25:42

Lucas somehow asked me to consider coming back to Roke's

1:25:44

Plaza 389 one of Fatman three, which I was

1:25:46

honored to do so agree. They made a deal

1:25:48

with me. In fact, I'm still it and that project has

1:25:51

been an active development ever since. When

1:25:53

we started hearing backlash about when a

1:25:55

woman's dream not happening, The attractive

1:25:58

clickbait false story was 389 me that killed

1:26:00

or walked away, started to spread. That

1:26:02

is not true. I never walked away.

1:26:04

I was open to considering anything 389. It

1:26:06

was my understanding that there was nothing I could do to

1:26:08

move anything forward at this time. DC

1:26:10

is obviously buried in the changes they're having

1:26:12

to make, so I understand these decisions are

1:26:14

difficult right now. I do not want

1:26:17

one has been a beautiful journey with one woman

1:26:19

to land on a negative note. I have loved

1:26:21

and been so honored to be the person who got to

1:26:23

make these last two wonder women. She's

1:26:25

an incredible character. I wish her

1:26:27

and her legacy an amazing future head with

1:26:29

or without. You

1:26:35

know? And I I like Patty.

1:26:37

She's awesome. Patty,

1:26:40

389. But that

1:26:43

I buy that. Right? That sounds legit.

1:26:45

I mean, I I buy it. I

1:26:48

think that I think there's also

1:26:50

a version of all of this, which

1:26:52

is still not quite the truth because,

1:26:55

you know, the truth can

1:26:57

be elusive at times and the things that

1:26:59

people say in public are not often the things that

1:27:01

we're set in private. I

1:27:04

believe that all of it is true to

1:27:06

a degree. think there's still a lot

1:27:08

of it that we don't know. Chris,

1:27:11

c and 389 said it's Kevin, what does active

1:27:13

development mean?

1:27:17

That's a good question. It

1:27:19

means that it

1:27:21

ain't dead. And

1:27:24

389 it's not quite alive

1:27:27

yet either. It's a thing

1:27:29

that's 389. And that

1:27:31

could take, there's no clock

1:27:33

on that. It's not like, well, you do that for two

1:27:35

months and then you're a real live movie.

1:27:38

It's like active development could go on for

1:27:40

fucking ten years here. We just,

1:27:42

you know, a clerk's three now

1:27:44

available on Blu ray and DVD and

1:27:46

stuff and home video of all sorts. Was

1:27:49

an active development for about a decade

1:27:52

before we finally made it. That's

1:27:54

just to say that I was working on it the whole

1:27:56

time with a plan of making 389. So

1:27:58

it's not like an official, you

1:28:00

know, like, you're in this 389, and

1:28:02

that's your tax designation. It's just

1:28:05

some shit you say. 389

1:28:08

it just means that they're they're definitely

1:28:10

considering it. Studios like, yeah, is the thing

1:28:12

we might wanna make if it reaches

1:28:15

all the ticks all the boxes eventually

1:28:17

or enough boxes for us to release

1:28:19

hundreds of millions of dollars. Right.

1:28:22

Like, active development to my understanding is

1:28:24

also, there's a person working

1:28:26

on it at the moment. You know?

1:28:28

389 like, hey, wanna make a

1:28:30

fucking 389 movie. Is there anybody

1:28:33

389 RoboTek movie? No. But they're studios to

1:28:35

make 389, so they're gonna take meetings on it and

1:28:37

they have discussions about it. They haven't hired

1:28:39

anybody to do it yet. Stanley

1:28:42

and 389 is asking, so nothing's being

1:28:44

built yet, nobody's making costumes

1:28:46

or building 389? Oh, heavens, no.

1:28:49

They are spending minimal amounts

1:28:51

of money on the 389, writing

1:28:54

development, and that's just of

1:28:56

the script. The 389

1:28:58

development doesn't even mean you've cast a motherfucker

1:29:01

because there's probably no final script to

1:29:03

send out. It's literally

1:29:05

just a conversation in

1:29:08

a positive direction with

1:29:11

a lot of ifs. If

1:29:13

this works, if we a script is good,

1:29:16

if the budget is right, if we get this

1:29:18

actor, actors, then

1:29:21

perhaps there will be a movie. So, no,

1:29:23

they don't spend. At what point do they start building

1:29:25

sets 389 test? When

1:29:27

the movie is greenlit, that's

1:29:30

when everybody is on board and

1:29:32

they're like, We're gonna release this amount of money

1:29:34

for them to make the movie. This is the agreed

1:29:36

upon budget. These are gonna be the

1:29:38

cast members, the stars, and whatnot. This

1:29:41

is what it all cost. Own than

1:29:43

and only than kids or

1:29:45

389. Not the real Stanley,

1:29:47

but Stanley Jed. Do they start

1:29:49

building sets and fucking designing,

1:29:52

buying costumes and stuff. He

1:29:55

says 389 sending email correspondence about

1:29:57

ideas? Yeah. Or being

1:29:59

on the phone or Zooms probably

1:30:01

more in this day and age. But

1:30:04

that is enough to consider

1:30:07

active development. It means that

1:30:09

it's a thing that might happen. There's good

1:30:11

chance. There's a chance. I'm not even

1:30:13

gonna say good. There's a chance this

1:30:15

thing may become a movie. Better chance

1:30:19

than, you know, an idea

1:30:21

I have. Or an idea you have

1:30:23

right now, because somewhere in the world, it's an

1:30:25

active development. As Patty Jenkins

1:30:27

is saying, the rogue squadron is an

1:30:29

active development. So

1:30:31

that means somebody has always been

1:30:34

working on it, writing it, perhaps she's been

1:30:36

given notes, perhaps she's, you know,

1:30:38

I 389 a lot of plates as well. Nothing good

1:30:40

and nothing anybody gives a fuck about. But,

1:30:43

you know, you try to keep as many options

1:30:45

open as possible. And it

1:30:47

sounds like 389 was

1:30:49

developing a few things at once. A

1:30:51

director of her magnitude and star

1:30:54

power has many options so

1:30:56

it sounds like she was developing, keeping

1:30:59

rogue squadron or whatever fuck going

1:31:01

while she was working on Wonder

1:31:03

Woman 389 as well and probably while working

1:31:05

on something even smaller because let's

1:31:08

remember, BATty is responsible for 389.

1:31:11

Which is not a big, gigantic,

1:31:13

expensive movie. You know, it's got some makeup

1:31:15

effects, but it's kinda small. So there's

1:31:17

a good chance that Patty is like doing

1:31:20

these for them and these for them and one

1:31:22

that, you know, she's doing for herself

1:31:24

and she's got them all in active

1:31:26

development. Whichever one gets closest to

1:31:29

being made, that's what you lean toward. That

1:31:31

being said, it's not like they pay

1:31:33

you for active development. Maybe

1:31:35

she got an overall deal at a place. If

1:31:37

she's a writer on the project, she could be receiving

1:31:40

money for 389. But it's not a

1:31:42

designation 389 nest necessarily earns

1:31:44

you money. It's so far what like, sounds

1:31:47

basic, but what are great questions? Because here

1:31:49

we just assume everybody

1:31:52

knows what we're talking about, but there are people

1:31:54

out there that are like, when do they start spending

1:31:56

money on a movie? And it's like, as

1:31:59

late in the process as possible. That's why it

1:32:01

always believed you as a creative to

1:32:03

this is gonna sound crude, but there's an expression

1:32:05

called 389 them pregnant. You gotta get that studio

1:32:08

389. The more money they spend, you

1:32:11

know, the is this common

1:32:13

wisdom that if if they spend, they gotta keep

1:32:15

spending. That's not fucking true at all as David

1:32:17

Zaslow 389 proved you could finish

1:32:20

the showrooms. Yeah. You could finish

1:32:22

the season of shows and they're like, oh, no. No.

1:32:24

We're done. So, yeah,

1:32:27

it's it's those aren't bad questions

1:32:29

at all. I saw some people who jump

1:32:31

in on a on a man's dick for basic questions, but

1:32:34

There's time out of 389 shit. Totally.

1:32:36

And, like, there's a a filmmaker

1:32:39

of Patty's magnitude

1:32:42

probably gets paid a certain

1:32:44

amount of money to be an active development on Rosemont.

1:32:46

Like, she signed a deal. There is

1:32:48

389, like, a holding deal. Like, they will pay you something

1:32:51

so that we know you're committed to. Because she's a

1:32:53

rock 389 director who's made a movie that

1:32:55

made a billion dollars. So she's

1:32:57

valuable commodity as a creative,

1:33:00

And naturally, if she's got a agent

1:33:02

worth their salt, they're

1:33:04

gonna be like, well, Patty Jenkins, you can't

1:33:06

just fucking specters 389 She'd be

1:33:08

making a couple dozen wonder You've got

1:33:10

a fucking payer to sit around. And that's

1:33:12

that's what an agent does. Right. 389

1:33:15

now, I am in active development and a couple

1:33:17

of things that I have not been paid for,

1:33:19

and won't get paid for until somebody

1:33:22

decides they actually 389. 389

1:33:25

that is that is that is my lot in life

1:33:27

389 having made billion dollar movie. I

1:33:30

389 to minimize the amount of free work

1:33:32

that I do because 389 can they'll take

1:33:34

as much as I can get from you without giving him anything

1:33:36

for it. But for

1:33:38

somebody like Patty, like, yes, she's been she's

1:33:40

been paid something. Not everything yet.

1:33:48

389. So, wait, so that was one

1:33:51

round of DC 389. What

1:33:53

was the other? Wasn't there a

1:33:55

month long 389, which

1:33:57

was about Robert Pattency? And,

1:33:59

you know, again, part of the the

1:34:02

ever swirling rumor mill

1:34:05

around what exactly gun

1:34:08

and saffron are doing. Is this about

1:34:10

how they might have had sex on the batmobile

1:34:12

during production? No. Because

1:34:15

I love that rumor. I mean, I know it's old

1:34:17

and the Internet's, like, come on a bunch of years ago.

1:34:20

389, whenever I watch the Batman, that's all I

1:34:22

think about. I'm like, oh, Oh,

1:34:25

offset between shots. This

1:34:27

is fucking in that battle deal. Anyway,

1:34:30

what is it? This is variety 389 a piece

1:34:33

Fatman, again, sort of a state of the DC

1:34:36

Union, that included

1:34:38

this paragraph. At least one core element of

1:34:40

the so called slide a verse is likely over.

1:34:43

A well placed source says that

1:34:45

gun and saffron are exploring the possibility of

1:34:47

incorporating Matt Reeves' 389 of

1:34:49

Batman with 389, Robert

1:34:52

Pence, and into the wider universe. So

1:34:55

that if at some point, they'd want to make it just

1:34:57

as they movie, then that would be your banner.

1:35:01

After the story was published, 389 went

1:35:03

out on Twitter and tweeted response. There

1:35:06

are a few reporters that I love more than

1:35:08

Adam Berry. Truly a good guy.

1:35:11

But in this case, he needs to get a new source

1:35:13

as this is entirely untrue. 389

1:35:18

James shut it down? Yes.

1:35:21

389 for James. For the for the very

1:35:23

least? 389 true yet. The

1:35:26

gun has fired. The

1:35:29

gun is not trickery. 389

1:35:31

government is is is happily going

1:35:33

on here. And 389 a certain degree, I understand

1:35:36

it. You know, he's probably more

1:35:38

accessible than he needs to be. 389

1:35:40

the same token, he's the only one who

1:35:42

can can sort of

1:35:46

kill these rumors and their cribs. To

1:35:48

use an awful barbaric metaphor.

1:35:52

But yes, one of one of the one

1:35:54

of the rumored choices

1:35:57

or paths they can go down is to just

1:35:59

eliminate the what had been the spider

1:36:02

verse, is to just start over

1:36:04

from ground zero. To completely recast

1:36:06

everybody. That if Jason

1:36:08

Momo is going to be in the DC universe

1:36:10

going forward, it'll be as low bone, not

1:36:12

as ocular. 389

1:36:15

I mean, I I'm all for that.

1:36:17

He fucking looks and sounds and

1:36:19

feels like Lobo. Yeah. Yeah.

1:36:22

Like, do you 389 do you imagine, like, only

1:36:24

Ben Affleck? I'm maybe not only Ben Affleck,

1:36:26

but, like, Ben Affleck's the one that leaves to mind

1:36:28

as a guy who was like, I was daredevil and I

1:36:30

was Batman. And this guy

1:36:32

could be the same in the same universe, in

1:36:35

the same type of aquaman, and that was low bone.

1:36:37

And then if he pulls it off, we'll

1:36:39

all want Aquaman versus Lobo.

1:36:42

And then it's all the momoa. Nothing

1:36:45

but momoa. All of our face, 389,

1:36:47

and chest. Double exception.

1:36:50

Yeah. Small God. I dream

1:36:52

about that. That sounds a lot. So

1:36:56

that is that is so far newer as I can tell

1:36:58

it, the totality of the rumor mills

1:37:00

that are swirling. Chad

1:37:02

Chad is screaming at me that Chris Evans did

1:37:04

it as well. 389 forget. He was in

1:37:07

universe -- Yes. -- he

1:37:09

was the Fatman torch and 389

1:37:11

America. He

1:37:13

was in heat. Happens in the next

1:37:16

time? What about the

1:37:19

rock? I I heard there was a

1:37:22

a Black Adam 389 as well where they

1:37:24

were like, hey, man, this movie's huge and it's

1:37:26

profitable. And then somebody was like, that's

1:37:28

not true at all. Yeah. I mean, there

1:37:30

there seems to be a a sort of ongoing

1:37:34

debate about whether or not Black is

1:37:37

going to get a sequel in there. And the

1:37:39

rock has been doing his level best as

1:37:41

the the the engineer of

1:37:43

Black Adam 389 defend its performance.

1:37:46

And saying, like, no, we're gonna be great. We're not gonna

1:37:48

lose money. We'll be we'll make fifty million dollars

1:37:50

at the end of its run once

1:37:52

we factor in merch and ancillary merchandise

1:37:54

and all that stuff. Whereas

1:37:57

the the box on his analyst was like, this movie's gonna

1:37:59

lose money. They spent a lot on it.

1:38:01

He costs a lot. It's

1:38:04

now trending that it won't clear the threshold

1:38:07

that it would need to to be 389. And

1:38:10

389 it's this weird kind of again perception

1:38:13

war going on, including

1:38:15

the rock, invoking the

1:38:17

box office returns of

1:38:19

Captain America, the first avenger as

1:38:21

some comparison point. He says,

1:38:23

we've already made more than Captain America, the first

1:38:25

389. And then it's like, oh,

1:38:28

sure. That's

1:38:31

not necessarily a barometer of

1:38:33

much of anything because the Marlin universe,

1:38:36

the reason why there is one is because of ironman,

1:38:39

not because of Fatman 389. And

1:38:41

Ironman did phenomenally well

1:38:44

on a third of the budget that

1:38:46

they get spent on Black App. You

1:38:48

know, it made some six 389

1:38:51

million dollars worldwide on an eighty

1:38:53

million dollars budget. Whereas

1:38:55

Black cost about two hundred million dollars

1:38:57

and has only made at this point, like three hundred

1:38:59

and seventy five, three hundred and eighty million dollars.

1:39:04

And so 389 much

1:39:06

remains to be seen whether or not

1:39:08

there's a version of Black Adam two in

1:39:10

the new DC universe that goes

1:39:12

forward, whether there's gonna be more shazam,

1:39:14

whether there's gonna be, you know, whether

1:39:16

there's gonna be more of anything that we've got coming

1:39:19

up in the next like, there's a blue beetle movie coming

1:39:21

in August. Yeah. I saw 389 ad for

1:39:23

it. I saw with, like, 389. Which

1:39:26

looks great. Is that gonna be a Blue BL 389 with

1:39:28

the home knows? All of that is

1:39:30

up for debate. And, you know, done

1:39:33

and and Fatman had apparently some meeting

1:39:35

on the books to deliver onto Zazloth,

1:39:38

the plan for where they were

1:39:40

going forward. 389, you know what?

1:39:43

Black Adam's art, so

1:39:46

it don't need a fucking sequel.

1:39:48

And only movies with numbers and

1:39:50

titles only hacks make

1:39:52

movies with numbers and titles anyway.

1:39:54

That being said kids, clerks three, now

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available on Blu 389. In

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Back to you, Mark. Hey,

1:40:41

can we talk about I mean, I guess we'll never

1:40:43

figure out Well, I

1:40:45

guess, math will figure out whether Black Adam

1:40:47

is profitable or not. People keep

1:40:49

saying, Richard

1:40:52

Greenberg said, hey, 389 clerk, do we end up making

1:40:54

money? Yes. Very

1:40:57

much so. Very much so so much so the 389

1:40:59

like, what are you doing next? So In

1:41:02

any event, somebody

1:41:06

keeps popping up a chat and saying that

1:41:08

Batman Beyond movie was canceled. I don't even

1:41:10

know what was happening. I don't I think

1:41:13

it was something they wanted to spin out

1:41:15

of both that girl, which

1:41:17

is not happening. And

1:41:21

Michael Keaton's cameo in the

1:41:23

flesh, which also does not sound

1:41:25

like it's happening. Of Does

1:41:27

everything They're taking that Fatman completely

1:41:29

out of the flash? That was the last rumor that

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I 389, was that they then shot a 389

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thing to replace it. Like, I think if they 389,

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like, why are we going to that Batman or not the Batman

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that people know? And so I think there

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389 some There's a

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lot of moving pieces with the cameos

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currently set for the

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flash movie because

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it seems to be setting up a lot of stuff

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that may not actually come to pass. Like

1:41:55

Henry Cavill's shot at cameo. Like, is there gonna

1:41:57

be more Henry Cavill's Superman? I don't

1:41:59

know. He seems to think

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so, and he went on the Internet saying, I'm back. I'm gonna

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be Superman again. But that is

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only because he was in Black Adam and Man

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of 389 two is no longer on the 389.

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So 389 does that mean?

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389 of things in the flesh. And

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meanwhile, as the as as

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James gun and 389 but

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it's Fatman SAFREN. No. Their DC

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universe. Rob 389'

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Batman is outside of it, but so is Todd

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Phillips Joker still. Correct? Yeah.

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389 They're not they're not messing with things that make

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them, you know, seven, eight hundred

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billion dollars. They released an

1:42:41

image when because they started shooting the

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movie. Right? I guess, I'll put you up on

1:42:45

Joaquin Phoenix getting shaving,

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shorn, looking as thin as a person

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who can possibly look Yeah. That guy looks

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thin. And it looks like it was in character photo,

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like from the movie itself. No. Yeah.

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Yeah. 389 few. So

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look, I know, you know, Michael

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Keaton got paid either way and stuff, Fatman

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I know, you know, there are some people that that are like,

1:43:08

you know, we don't want old Batman, but I'll

1:43:10

be honest with you. I was really looking forward to that

1:43:13

seeing that we put on the cap and cal again.

1:43:16

It reminds me of that story that Marlon

1:43:19

Wanes was initially

1:43:21

cast as Robin in

1:43:23

Batman and Robin. And then

1:43:25

it was a payer play deal, and then

1:43:28

they decided to go a different way. So

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he still got paid to be Robin

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even though it never put on a suit. I never

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was shot and paid, like,

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a lot of money to do so. Well,

1:43:45

I'm you know, look, whatever

1:43:47

they make over there, I'm gonna watch regardless.

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And Sounds

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like they're getting ready to make a few things.

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389 they're in that place where every

1:43:59

storyteller at the very, very beginning.

1:44:01

They're in a blue sky. They're in a what could we do?

1:44:04

If we could do anything, what would we do?

1:44:07

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in the bin and being like, which one should be pulled 389?

1:44:11

Which one should be safe for later? Which ones

1:44:13

make sense? You know? And

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and done as 389, Superman is priority

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for us. Like, we have to fucking figure out

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Superman. And

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whether that means the

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389 House of Coach GHA version of

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Black Superman, and whether that means the

1:44:29

Val Azad version of Superman, whether that means

1:44:31

man of steel two, that means a completely

1:44:33

different iteration that we don't even know that they're

1:44:35

thinking about, there's 389 be

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