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are reflecting on a fun weekend.
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The NFL Draft in the books Saturday
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show was terrific. Big shout out to Jamie
1:41
Heath and Chris Trepasso for telling us what
1:43
we needed to know about all of the
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day three guys. And now we'll you know,
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we've had some time to digest a little
1:49
bit sleep on it. And now we'll discuss
1:51
Adam Azer with the three guys, Jamie Eisenberg,
1:53
Heath Cummings and Dave Richard is here as
1:55
well. We've got rankings risers and followers. We'll
1:58
tell you about where the rookies are. are
2:00
in the rankings, where
2:02
they're going to be. As Heath and
2:04
Dave will give their rankings risers and
2:06
followers, Jamie will react. We also have
2:09
Ezekiel Elliott signing with the Dallas Cowboys
2:11
and some more news from around the
2:13
NFL. And Heath, who's
2:15
your biggest rankings riser
2:18
from after the NFL Draft?
2:21
You're going to hate me so much. First off, I'd just like
2:23
to say I like Jamie's position better. Can
2:25
I just go to be the guy that's just going
2:27
to react to the other guy's rankings? I think that's
2:29
more fun. I'll
2:32
just be honest, the biggest riser for the weekend was
2:34
Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah,
2:38
I don't buy. I mean, from nowhere to somewhere.
2:40
Right. Like he was outside of my top 50 running
2:43
backs. He's definitely going to be a top 36 running
2:45
back now. He
2:48
might even get close to 30,
2:50
somewhere in that 30 to 36 range. And
2:53
I would guess there's going to be a stretch
2:55
of like six weeks this year where we're starting
2:57
Ezekiel Elliott. Do you
2:59
know where he ranked among running backs in the
3:01
last six games of the season last year? Cop
3:04
eight? Yeah, exactly. He was seventh and
3:06
half PPR, eighth and full PPR. He
3:09
had the most catches among running backs. He
3:11
averaged three yards per carry in that stretch.
3:14
But he had 31 catches in six games.
3:16
That included the game in which Stevenson
3:18
got hurt. All right,
3:20
so Ezekiel Elliott. That was like the worst offense in football too,
3:23
though. Yes, it was. Is
3:26
he obviously, OK, if you had to bet
3:28
right now, who gets the first
3:30
carry of the season for the Cowboys? Is it
3:33
Zeke or is it someone else? Zeke.
3:36
Someone else. Two Zekes and
3:38
a someone else. Plan B
3:42
on YouTube says, in what round are you
3:44
interested in drafting Ezekiel Elliott? No.
3:48
Seven. Seven. OK,
3:51
Dave, you're not biated, it sounds like. He's
3:54
going to share. And he
3:56
could very easily share. All it takes is for
3:59
one running back. who can have some
4:01
explosion in his game to absolutely
4:04
render Ezekiel Elliott into a Passing
4:07
downs back maybe a guy that scores
4:10
Seven times this year maybe
4:13
catches 35 to 45 passes. I'm not saying
4:15
that there isn't a place for him on
4:17
draft day I'm just saying that I
4:20
don't really want to trust him on my
4:22
fantasy team as a regular starter Why
4:25
not? Guys said around seven
4:27
on Zeke Jamie hit he Yeah,
4:31
I mean I think I can name 12 other guys not
4:33
necessarily running backs But other players that I would take in
4:36
round seven. Oh, I'm not saying I'm taking around seven. That's
4:38
why I would start to consider Okay,
4:41
why like Brian Robinson or Ezekiel
4:43
Elliott? the
4:47
And I think Robinson's around seven pick Aaron
4:50
Jones is probably gonna be right around there. We're Mondrae's
4:52
gonna be right around there on the go ahead of
4:54
around him I think remind you of my head
4:56
around seven two. I Don't
4:58
know if they I don't know if they should those guys are
5:00
better than Robinson. They're better than Zeke I
5:03
think there's gonna be some okay Here's one more running back
5:05
and I know I said this is gonna be other running
5:07
back other non running backs that are better Than Zeke where
5:09
he most are or Zeke Difference
5:15
of opinion Adam there's 85 guys in
5:17
Miami now All
5:19
right. So that's the thing. I mean is just Jalen Wright
5:22
Changing it because my thought was He's
5:25
probably no I was in that he could I
5:27
think there's a good chance that right who the
5:29
Dolphins drafted him with a fourth round Or fifth
5:31
round. Sorry, they spent a day to pick on
5:34
them, right was round four No,
5:36
but they spent a day to pick to get him Okay,
5:39
I don't quite know what that means They
5:41
spent a round three pick in
5:44
2025 to draft him in round
5:46
four of 2024 Yeah
5:48
They're looking at someone who's gonna be a playmaker
5:50
for them this year and obviously part of their
5:53
tandem moving forward once Rehimo sir stuck right
5:55
that's the thing like I feel like he's he's not going
5:58
to play until one of the other guys guys
6:00
gets hurt. So, but
6:04
it might be a situation where we're looking
6:06
at a split when most are
6:08
in a HN are healthy. And we're looking
6:10
at a split if most or HN gets
6:13
hurt. Because because right
6:15
just moves into that spot. So the injury
6:17
upside that those guys had when the other
6:19
one got hurt is lessened. I
6:22
already love the idea of drafting most
6:24
shirt and right to
6:26
the same fantasy team. Okay.
6:28
All right, let's move on. Dave, who's your
6:31
biggest rankings riser? I
6:33
got to give it to Zameer White. Looks like
6:35
he's going to survive the off season and be
6:38
the lead running back for the Las Vegas Raiders.
6:40
Did a great job to end last year. This
6:42
is a Raiders team that improved their offensive line.
6:45
They're going to have Brock Bowers to further take
6:48
some safeties out of the box
6:50
against them. And they want to be run heavy
6:52
and they're going to use two tight ends all the time.
6:55
So I think that Zameer White has earned a place
6:58
maybe even as a top 60 pick, if
7:00
not higher, I'd love to hear where Jamie and he
7:02
reranked them, but I've got them right
7:04
on the end of round five, beginning of round
7:06
six. I think I had
7:08
him with a four or five turns. So I
7:10
was, he was my other guy that I was
7:13
going to say at the biggest, does the biggest
7:15
riser. So he's definitely like, we're going to get
7:17
all the dead zone arguments against him. And they
7:19
sometimes those guys do get
7:21
all the work that we're protecting. They're going to, and
7:23
they end up being values because they're pulled down. Um,
7:26
but man, I said
7:28
it last week. I think this team is going to
7:30
run the ball a ton. And I think that Zameer
7:32
white's going to be the lead back. Zameer
7:36
white in the last four games of the season, he
7:38
was on pace for 357 carries and
7:43
almost 1700 yards, also 38
7:45
catches. They drafted Dylan Lauby. I know
7:48
there was some confusion about
7:50
how to pronounce his name. That's how we're going. It's lobby.
7:52
It's a lobby. I, well, I heard it as lobby or
7:54
lobby, but I heard it as well. I would guess there's
7:56
going to be some confusion about how to pronounce his name
7:58
like three months from now. Well, the
8:01
thing is I mean he does figure to
8:03
be if anything a pass catcher. He
8:06
is a fun player He really stood out
8:08
the senior bowl He's
8:10
a lot more of a pass catcher than
8:12
a runner. Yeah, that's all and
8:14
I could see him He's gonna
8:17
be one of about 14
8:19
running backs that were drafted who could be a
8:21
factor on special teams, but he
8:24
could also be their third down back pretty quickly I
8:27
don't see him taking carries away from Zamir
8:29
white I also don't know how many carries
8:31
Alexander Madison will take away from Zamir
8:33
white all the more reason why Zamir
8:35
white has really Catapulted himself into
8:38
the round five conversation Alright,
8:40
by the way FFT dynasty This is a
8:42
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8:44
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8:49
2024 you got to listen to FFT
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8:55
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8:59
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today Who is the
9:11
biggest faller in your rankings Dave Richard? Pick
9:15
up Bears receiver And
9:18
I don't know if they're necessarily the
9:20
biggest faller because I'm gonna be pretty
9:22
anti a Chan But
9:24
in fact, I'd like to change my answer Davani
9:29
a Chan, okay. Yeah because
9:31
of the right signing and Jamie's
9:34
right like right is more for the future than for
9:36
now, but I think They
9:38
will learn that right can actually
9:41
work on passing down He was a pretty
9:43
good pass blocker at Tennessee he's
9:45
a good receiver and he's got he's
9:47
got what you need to be a running back
9:49
in Miami and that's track speed and Just
9:52
the decision that they made to move up to
9:54
get him and use future capital to get Jalen
9:56
right man It just I think
9:58
that tells the story about how they feel
10:00
about their running backs in general that
10:02
they wanted to add this guy. And
10:05
so I am extremely nervous. Where were
10:07
we taking H-M before, guys? Like round
10:09
three? Maybe late round two? No,
10:12
I can't do it anymore. Well, that's the thing. I had
10:14
him, I think, at RB 20 before the draft. I'm
10:18
not too my own horn. I didn't think the Dolphins
10:20
were going to draft someone. I just was really scared
10:22
off by the way the Dolphins used him in the
10:24
playoffs at the end of the year last year. And
10:26
it's games that were not blowouts, really. And
10:29
so I'm wondering, did you drop him to
10:31
where you're like where I am? Or did
10:33
you drop him further? Is it RB 20
10:35
range about right? Yeah, it's right around there.
10:38
He might even be a little bit ahead
10:40
of 20 among the running backs in full
10:42
PPR. But I'm still, yeah, not
10:45
excited. I don't want to spend even around four pick on
10:47
him now. The
10:50
counter here, you don't want to spend
10:52
around four pick on Devaun H-M. Wow. The
10:54
counter here is this. This
10:59
was a bad running back class. And this
11:01
guy was drafted in the fourth round. And
11:03
fourth round picks usually don't
11:06
really factor in as rookies.
11:08
I mean, quite frankly, they usually don't
11:10
have very good careers. But
11:12
we have had Remondre Stevenson, Damian
11:14
Pierce in recent seasons, Roshan
11:16
Johnson. Roshan Johnson was a fourth round
11:18
pick last year. And people made a
11:21
big stink about him. And
11:23
it kind of stunk. So he had a
11:25
role. Not going to say he didn't have a
11:27
role, but he never came anywhere near becoming the
11:29
starting running back there, which I know you're not
11:31
projecting for Jaylen Wright. But what I'm saying is
11:34
fourth round running backs, I think the day after
11:36
the NFL draft, you can sort of overrate them.
11:38
They typically- He's a third round running back
11:41
item because they traded a third round pick in 2025. I
11:43
mean, that is a weird trade, by the way. But
11:46
so it is not a bad point by Dave. They gave
11:48
up a third- I think he's being sarcastic, Dave. What's that?
11:50
I think he's being sarcastic. I understand
11:52
that. But I actually think Dave made a good
11:55
point in bringing that up. No, I do too.
11:57
I was being sarcastic, and I think it's a
11:59
good point. But I think the part of
12:01
the reason I bring it up is if you call this a
12:03
third round pick Asian was a third round pick
12:05
last year. Yeah, I know I Fourth
12:07
round picks typically don't do that much. That's it. That's why
12:10
you could look at them They're on the roster, but I
12:12
don't know that exactly this is also
12:14
a team I think this is a guy who'll play
12:16
on special teams. This is also a guy that They're
12:20
they're starting running back even though we
12:22
haven't been drafting it is 31 years old I
12:25
mean, you know this this is not necessarily
12:28
an indication of this year This is an
12:30
indication of more for the future. Okay,
12:32
so it's a panic on a Chan I think is a little
12:34
bit too crazy, but I'm
12:36
more I'm panicking in terms of this year
12:39
Dynasty is a different story, but this
12:41
year not only I think
12:43
it's gonna come down to this no matter the situation
12:47
There's gonna be a split among running backs
12:49
in Miami McDaniel talked about it last
12:51
year We saw it last year Heath
12:53
mentioned months ago that when a Chan
12:55
got work it was mostly
12:57
in blowout situations and it
12:59
was blowout wins more than blowout losses and So
13:02
even if most her goes down Jamie
13:04
if right knows what he's doing He
13:07
will see the field a good amount with
13:09
a Chan and a Chan had
13:11
a hard time staying healthy last year So
13:13
look I get it. He's super efficient and
13:15
he was awesome He did
13:17
it against the worst run defenses in the league. I'm
13:20
just I'm nervous to spend I don't know where you're
13:22
taking him Jamie, but let's just say round four I'm
13:25
worried to spend that type of capital on a
13:27
Chan knowing that he may never get the type
13:29
of workload that we would want Okay,
13:33
he's who's your big I'll
13:35
try David Montgomery over
13:37
Devani. Oh, all right He's
13:39
who's your favorite? Who's your biggest follower?
13:44
Biggest follower is Probably
13:48
I'll go with what Dave said the
13:50
Bears wide receivers I
13:52
think DJ Moore is the one I'd
13:54
already kind of been out on Keenan
13:56
Allen And so
13:59
I'm really out on Keenan Allen now. And
14:01
I think DJ Moore, who was in that,
14:04
like, which wide receivers do we want to
14:06
draft in round two conversation is not in
14:08
that conversation for me anymore. Probably
14:10
more of a round four or round five pick now.
14:12
And I think it is a
14:15
real question mark who the number one wide
14:17
receiver for the Chicago Bears is going to
14:19
be week one. And
14:22
especially like week 10. Ist,
14:27
would you move Devontae
14:29
Smith, T Higgins and Jalen Waddle?
14:32
I always go back to that disappointing trio
14:34
from last year. And I feel
14:36
like we were taking DJ Moore consistently ahead
14:38
of them in mock drafts this
14:41
year, you know, after free agency. But
14:43
now with the addition of Roma Dunze,
14:45
would you move Devontae Smith, T Higgins
14:47
and Jalen Waddle ahead of DJ Moore?
14:53
I would. I wouldn't, but
14:55
it's very close. Two
14:57
of those three. Yes, not Devontae Smith. Not
15:00
Devontae Smith. Okay. All
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right. Those are some risers and followers. We will
15:04
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17:17
and notes, Tank Del was shot. Thankfully
17:19
not seriously injured. Hopefully a quick recovery
17:21
for him and everyone else involved there.
17:24
Boys signed Ezekiel Elliott. He'll be 29 years
17:26
old in July. And I
17:28
mentioned after the Mondra Stevenson injury, he
17:30
was a top 10 running back. I
17:33
think I said he was seventh and eighth. He was ninth
17:35
and half PPR. He was eighth in full PPR. The
17:38
Jaguars picked up fifth year options on
17:40
Trevor Lawrence and Travis ETN. And
17:43
Lawrence, no surprise there. Jamie, any surprise at all
17:45
in your mind that they picked up the fifth
17:47
year option on Travis ETN? And what do you
17:49
think that says about him? I think it
17:51
says that they're committed to him being their lead guy. And
17:54
we talk about this with NFL Draft Capital.
17:56
Was this more of an indication, the
17:58
running back they selected? on Tank Bigsby and
18:01
Deir Nis Johnson, or was it more of an indication on what
18:03
they feel about ETN? I think they're telling you what they think
18:05
about Travis ETN, that he's still going to be their their
18:08
lead runner. They'll take some work off of him, but I think
18:10
that was always part of the conversation was they want to make
18:12
sure he's healthy toward the end of the season if they're going
18:14
to make a playoff run. And by
18:16
doing that, they'll, you know, alleviate some of
18:18
the work he has during the season. So
18:20
he's still a very solid round two pick
18:22
in my mind. There was a pretty healthy
18:24
debate, I think, in Dynasty between and probably
18:27
still is between ETN and HN. And
18:30
I'm on the ETN side of that and
18:32
feel better about it after this
18:34
weekend. They're both still
18:37
top 10 Dynasty running backside. Am
18:39
I the only one who thinks that
18:41
this Trevor Lawrence contract negotiation could get
18:43
really interesting? Like this
18:46
is the year when Burrow, Herbert, all those
18:48
guys got locked up. I
18:50
wonder if Lawrence's goes more like Lamars did. And we've
18:52
got a little bit of acrimony.
18:55
I wonder if he wants out of there. Like it's
18:58
been such a disaster for him.
19:02
I think he's going to end up
19:04
having just a massive contract. It's
19:06
not like – I think he's going to get paid higher
19:09
than what his performance has been. He's probably
19:11
going to want a Herbert deal, right? I
19:14
want a Herbert deal. No,
19:17
he might get – I think he's going to get it. I think
19:19
he's going to get – I think he probably wants a – I
19:21
don't know about Herbert. – a Watson deal. I mean, they all do.
19:23
But yeah. I think he's going to
19:25
get paid like a star is basically what I'm saying. Yeah, of
19:27
course he is. He hasn't been one. But
19:29
hopefully that will change. All right,
19:32
more news and notes. Falcons
19:35
head coach Raheem Morris said Kirk Cousins does not
19:37
have to look over his shoulder after they drafted
19:39
Michael Penix. The Broncos expect
19:41
Bonex to play right away, according
19:43
to ESPN's Dan Graziano. The
19:45
Vikings are still working on signing Justin
19:47
Jefferson to a new contract. The Eagles
19:49
sign former Jets offensive tackle Micaie Becton.
19:52
The Raiders' GM Tom Telesco said that Michael Mayer is
19:54
an excellent tight end and there is no rule in
19:56
the NFL that you can only play one – Dave,
20:01
do you think that Michael Mayer's presence drags
20:04
down the value and the production of Brock Bowers in
20:06
fantasy? No, not that much. Okay.
20:14
It is a low-key, crowded receiving
20:17
core in Vegas now, and
20:19
that might drag down Bowers, but I still think Bowers will be second on the team in
20:21
targets. Do you have Bowers top 12? Oh,
20:25
yeah. Okay.
20:31
Hey, Tim. I
20:33
think I've got him 12th, but man,
20:36
I don't feel comfortable with it. I
20:38
do think between Adams and
20:40
Joby Myers and Michael Mayer's going to
20:42
play plenty.
20:45
I'm not sure if Bowers will be second. Right. I thought
20:48
that was pretty interesting that, you know, it's going to be
20:50
him or Myers. Right.
20:53
Okay. Broncos
20:55
made, I think, probably a pretty good trade.
20:57
They got defensive end John Franklin Myers from
20:59
the Jets for a sixth-round pick in 2026.
21:04
So he's a good player. The Jets needed to get rid
21:06
of his salary after they acquired his son, Rhettick, from the
21:08
Eagles. And the Steelers intend
21:11
to use first-round pick Troy
21:13
Fatoutanu at offensive tackle. There
21:15
was some thought that maybe he'd play inside,
21:17
but they planned to play him at tackle.
21:20
And they also drafted center Zach Frazier in
21:22
round two. Did they happen
21:24
to say which tackle spot for Fatoutanu?
21:28
Well, no. I didn't see that.
21:30
But they're a rookie from last year. Roger Jones
21:32
was playing right tackle. Was
21:34
he playing left tackle? He was,
21:37
but I think they drafted him with the
21:39
intention of him eventually being their left tackle.
21:41
Okay. I do not know. One thing
21:43
I do know is that Dave and Heath gave me a
21:45
list of risers, and neither of you had Najee Harris on
21:47
there. You could say he was
21:49
a draft winner, right? They drafted two offensive
21:52
linemen. I don't know. But
21:55
no. The offseason's kind of
21:57
gone his way, right? Look at the offensive
21:59
coordinator chain. The
22:01
additions that they made at quarterback and wide
22:03
receiver don't suggest that they want to have
22:05
huge firepower and become a
22:07
dominant passing offense. And they've
22:10
both up the offensive line. What,
22:12
why would it be Najee Harris and Najee Lynn Warren as
22:14
the winner though? Unfortunately, My
22:18
problem is I, I, I don't have
22:20
a strong feeling. I've kind of
22:22
gone back and forth, but they're always within two spots of each
22:24
other in the rankings. And I think
22:26
it's like a 50 50 shot. Warren could be better. It
22:29
feels like Tomlin still wants Najee to be the
22:31
running downs guy, which is the problem for Jalen
22:33
Warren. Okay,
22:36
let's go to Heath's risers then. And
22:39
there's also Cordeiro Patterson there too with Arthur Smith. Oh
22:42
yeah. That, that, that, well yeah, they're losers.
22:46
Over under 15 carries for Cordeiro Patterson this
22:49
year. Over. Over.
22:52
For the season? Yeah, yeah. For my week
22:54
two. He's a special teams guy. Like they,
22:56
they should not use him. Well,
22:59
I mean the Falcons should not have used him last year and they
23:01
did. Uh, 40 carries,
23:03
40 carries for Patterson. Oh,
23:05
scary part is that. I'm curious by
23:07
week two is not that much of
23:09
an exaggeration. All right, let's
23:11
go to Heath's risers here. Patrick Mahomes
23:13
and Kyler Murray are your quarterback risers.
23:16
Is Mahomes number one? Is
23:18
Kyler Murray top
23:20
eight? Mahomes
23:22
is number one. And I
23:24
believe, let me just verify, I believe Kyler
23:26
Murray is QB eight. So you nailed both
23:29
of those Adam. Um,
23:31
listen, I think I'm probably going to
23:33
be more excited about what Xavier Worthy does for
23:35
Mahomes and for the Chiefs than I am about
23:38
drafting Xavier Worthy and redraft this year. But
23:41
I do think that you look, it's if
23:43
Rashi Rice plays 14, 15 games this year, it might
23:48
be the best set of weapons that Patrick Mahomes has
23:50
ever had. I
23:53
just, I like that. Look
23:55
at the top four quarters. Sorry,
23:58
delay on that. What
24:00
are you talking about? I
24:02
was, I was Xing out. He's, uh, might be
24:04
the best weapons his, my home's has ever had.
24:07
But yeah, go ahead, Dave. Yeah, that's right.
24:09
D. Kelsey, Sammy Watkins, I'll take that trio over
24:11
what he has right now. Right. Like,
24:14
that's a spicy meatball. But think about what's happened
24:16
to Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and
24:18
Lamar Jackson this off-season. And
24:21
then think about what's happened to my home's. I think that's the case
24:23
for my home's to be QB1. Well,
24:26
what happened to Hurts? What happened to Hurts
24:28
and Jackson? He's there. Oh,
24:31
what about Jackson? I don't
24:33
think that's going to hurt Jalen Hurts at all.
24:37
I don't think it's going to hurt him. Make him like a top score back. Um,
24:42
I think the loss of Kelsey and the potential change
24:44
in the touch push that you might
24:47
hurt. I think Barclays presence will hurt a little
24:49
bit because, you know, 15 rushing touchdowns, maybe goes
24:51
down to 12 or 10. You
24:56
know, with also a touch
24:58
push less touchdown or two as
25:01
well. You know, so his passing
25:03
might improve. Yeah,
25:05
my home's one for me. Is
25:08
Allen a slam dunk two for anybody? No.
25:12
No, I have my home's hurt, Talen. I
25:14
don't know how to hurt Jackson, Allen. I don't know how to hurt
25:16
Jalen. I saw Alan there for now, but I'm weighing
25:18
it. He could fall as far as four. By the way,
25:20
just to clarify, they didn't get rid of the touch
25:22
push. I think Jamie is concerned that without Jamie. No,
25:24
no, no. That the touch push will change
25:27
for the Eagles without Kelsey. Yeah, right. So
25:29
I'm saying, okay. And,
25:31
uh, Kyler Murray is eighth. Who'd you
25:33
move him ahead of? He's Jordan
25:37
Love. And I
25:40
think I moved both him and Anthony Richardson
25:42
up because Richardson is nine. So
25:44
I know I moved him just ahead of Richardson too.
25:47
So Love and Richardson. Stroud
25:49
ahead of them? Yes. Okay.
25:53
Zemir White is a riser for you. Dave already mentioned
25:55
that. Ezekiel Elliott is a riser for you. Do you
25:57
have anything else you want to say about Zemir White
25:59
and Ezekiel Elliott? No. No.
26:02
Okay, I'll just
26:05
say this about Samir White, just to
26:07
get a conversation going here, because it
26:09
was mentioned maybe getting him in round four,
26:12
and I talk about this,
26:15
okay, well, we're not sure this running back's
26:17
very good, but he's got
26:19
this great opportunity, probably not going
26:21
to be the past catching running back, right? Like, you
26:23
really need him to have a lot of carries. Samir
26:26
White, for example, let me see,
26:28
104 carries, he had two carries
26:30
that were longer than 16 yards,
26:33
both against terrible run defenses. So
26:35
I do think that he could be one of those players where people are like, well,
26:38
I don't know how good he is, man. I
26:40
get nervous taking a guy like that in the
26:42
fourth round. I think the lesson I learned from
26:44
last year was because, you know, Alexander
26:46
Madison was a player. He's
26:48
innocent. He is, but Rashad White, I mean, I felt
26:50
kind of the same way about Rashad White. I knew
26:53
that he was going to catch more passes, but I
26:55
thought Rashad White stunk wouldn't be a very good fantasy
26:57
back. I didn't want him, but Rashad White was going
26:59
so much later than Alexander Madison in drafts. So
27:02
that's the thing about White. It's like, I don't
27:04
know, you know, I thought right now. Round
27:06
five is probably better. Round five
27:08
would be the earliest for me. But yes, I mean, I'm
27:11
not saying he's Madison in the same vein
27:14
as the same player, but it's the same
27:16
situation. I mean, it's a very small sample size of
27:18
a guy getting an opportunity. And
27:20
will he completely take advantage of
27:23
it? Now, he looked good in
27:25
those four games. You know, he showed he could be a pass catcher when
27:27
they threw him the ball. He showed he could be a
27:29
workhorse type running back. And it doesn't
27:31
seem like things are going to change based
27:34
on what they added, ironically
27:36
enough, Alexander Madison. But
27:38
you know, it's also I wonder
27:41
how we would feel about Zameer White better
27:44
or worse if the quarterback situation
27:46
was different. Right. Because it doesn't feel
27:48
like while they didn't trade Devontae Adams
27:50
and they spend the draft capital on Brock Bowers
27:52
and Jacoby Myers is still there. They've just said,
27:54
you know, crowd receiving court, you know, so there's
27:57
a lot of weapons there that are very attractive
27:59
in the past. But it's still either
28:01
going to be Gardner-Mentschuh or
28:04
Aiden O'Connell. And that's not exactly
28:06
screaming, hey, we want to be a pass happy
28:08
type of team. And I
28:10
do think that one difference
28:12
between White and Madison last year
28:14
is that we thought the Vikings
28:17
were going to throw the ball the most in the
28:19
NFL. And I think most of us think the Raiders
28:21
are going to be more run heavy than the average
28:23
NFL team. Totally. And
28:26
there are a lot more rush attempts per
28:28
game available for the lead back. Yeah, totally.
28:30
All right. Dave's risers are Marvin Harrison. You
28:32
know, honestly, I don't think I was clear
28:34
with you guys about rookie
28:37
rankings. I didn't really ask for those, but hopefully you
28:39
have them sort of handy. At least Heath and Dave.
28:41
I know Jamie's going to publish his rankings soon. But
28:44
Marvin Harrison is one of Dave's risers and Zamir
28:46
White is the other one. So where are we
28:48
ranking Marvin Harrison, Dave Richard? I
28:50
have a hard time keeping him out of around two. And
28:53
so the reason why I said that he was a riser is
28:55
because before the draft, no question
28:58
about a top 15 type of fantasy receiver, no
29:00
doubt about it. A round three
29:02
guy. I think I said like toward the end of
29:04
round three, or maybe I said like right around 30th
29:06
overall for Harrison. Dude,
29:08
I feel like that there are eight
29:11
stud receivers that I've got no questions
29:13
about. Yep. And then after that,
29:15
you can make the case for Harrison,
29:17
Davante, either of
29:19
the Niners wide receivers, Olave,
29:21
Drake, London, maybe Mike
29:24
Evans, but that's a
29:26
tier. That's a group and Harrison is
29:28
squarely in it. And I
29:30
could absolutely see the case where Harrison is at the
29:33
top of it, but it goes back to another theme
29:35
that I'm going to have all season long. Everybody
29:38
has to take a drink every time I say
29:40
you don't want to draft a guy too high to
29:43
too close to a ceiling. And that might be the
29:45
case if we're taking Harrison at like 20th
29:47
overall. So I'm not there yet, but
29:49
I'm struggling keeping him out of late round
29:51
two. He's 22nd
29:54
overall for me. Overall.
29:56
Oh, okay. So I am not struggling. We
29:58
got him there. You've
30:00
got him ahead of the guy who is
30:02
generally the low-key Helen rookies He's
30:05
wide receiver nine. You mentioned there's
30:07
eight stud wide receivers. You've done
30:09
that I assume they were lamb
30:11
Jefferson Chase Tyreke among raw AJ
30:13
Brown Pukanukua and Garrett Wilson held
30:15
it Those are the eight wide
30:17
receivers that I have ahead of
30:19
Harrison And I think that you
30:21
could like there's people you could make an argument
30:23
for in full PPR Maybe you put Michael Pittman
30:26
or if Mike Evans wasn't so old I'd probably
30:28
have Mike Evans ahead of him after what he
30:30
did last year with Baker Mayfield, but I
30:33
There's nobody else that I think is a surefire pick
30:35
over Harrison Why is
30:38
Garrett Wilson? I mean, I would take
30:40
Wilson over him I think but but you know
30:42
why you know, why is that is that an easy
30:44
call to take Garrett Wilson over Marvin Harrison? No,
30:49
okay, it is for me. Yeah, it is why did why
30:51
Jamie? Well, I think first off,
30:53
you know, it's We've
30:56
seen some rookies come in and have big seasons I'll
30:59
take the third year guy over the rookies just having a little
31:01
bit more of established, you know understanding of the league Plus
31:04
his quarterbacks not gonna run around in the pocket
31:06
and leave like Garrett Wilson the guy is who's not
31:09
gonna run at all So I think the
31:11
targets will favor him and the upside will favor him just for
31:13
at least year Okay, and
31:15
Dave is it an easy call Garrett Wilson over over? Marvin
31:19
Harrison for now. Yes. I Got
31:22
an interesting Twix poll up. I just
31:25
published it as Dave was talking which
31:27
wide receiver Are you drafting first? Devontae
31:29
Adams Chris Olave Drake London Marvin
31:32
Harrison? Yeah,
31:34
I mean it's only 50 votes. Let's see Shaffer's
31:37
got 12 votes there on his screen. I got 50
31:39
40. I've got 87 87. All right, what do we
31:41
got? What are the results?
31:43
Harrison at 34% Adams at 25 London at 23 Olave at 18 Yeah,
31:51
maybe the most interesting part of that is Olave being
31:53
dead last but okay We'll we'll come back to that
31:55
in a little bit. Please remind me Shaffer to check
31:57
on that. I always forget to do that How
32:00
about some rankings? Fallers. Heath,
32:02
you have – this is a bigger list here. Well,
32:04
we've talked about the Bears wide receivers. Dave had them
32:07
as Fallers as well. He mentioned them at the top
32:09
of the show. James
32:11
Connor and Chuba Hubbard. Okay.
32:13
Why is James Connor a Faller for you
32:16
and Chuba Hubbard? Obviously, they
32:18
took Jonathan Brooks. But yeah, go ahead. James
32:21
Connor, you think he's got some serious competition here? I
32:24
think he has some serious competition here, yes. I
32:26
was kind of viewing it as James Connor is
32:28
going to be a top five running back for
32:31
11 games, and then he's going to miss a
32:33
third of the season. And now it
32:35
might be that he's not quite a
32:38
full-feature running back. And
32:40
there is at least some risk that James
32:42
Connor at his age just gets outperformed the
32:44
first month of the season and
32:46
isn't the starting running back at some point this
32:48
season. He was a round five, six
32:50
pick for me before this. No
32:53
earlier than round seven now, and I don't even love it
32:55
there. So they drafted
32:57
Trey Benson in the third round, 66th overall.
33:00
So it sounds like an easy call for
33:02
he says it's easy call for everyone to
33:04
take Zamir White right now over James Connor.
33:07
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
33:10
Connor though, man, he's been so damn
33:12
good. And especially with
33:15
Kyler Murray, I mean, that's like
33:17
his guy throws to him, scores
33:19
touchdowns. Yeah. Okay. You
33:22
know me. I like to play devil's
33:24
advocate. Well, and there might be like, there
33:26
might be a, okay. Okay. Okay.
33:29
Okay. Okay. Okay.
33:32
Okay. Okay. He's never
33:34
seen that. No. Rishi
33:37
Rice. We're talking
33:39
about Rishi Rice now. He's one of your followers. This
33:43
isn't just the Xavier Worthy thing. It's also the
33:45
fact that like some of the reporting that came
33:47
out in the last week, I was
33:50
viewing it as Rishi. What rice is going to
33:52
get suspended probably zero to three games. And
33:55
now it sounds like a multi-game suspension is the
33:57
floor. And
33:59
I'm so I now I'm. looking at it more in the
34:01
three to six game range or two to
34:03
four game range. He
34:06
was a borderline top 12 wide receiver for me
34:08
at one point. He is now wide receiver 28
34:11
in round five. What
34:14
have been, there have
34:16
been some pretty obvious speeding
34:19
traffic car wreck
34:22
stuff, right? Between
34:24
rugs and, like they flowers had an issue. No,
34:27
I was taken. Things
34:29
got dropped. So I think – But I'm saying like
34:31
I wonder like if this is just the NFL tired
34:33
of these guys doing this and – So
34:36
stupid. It's
34:39
so stupid and like this is the – you're
34:42
going to pay the price of all the
34:44
stupidity before you and stopping the stupidity after
34:46
you and
34:49
he gets a – it'll probably get reduced
34:51
whatever the suspension may be from – on appeal
34:53
but like he may get something more than we're
34:55
expecting. So Heath, you
34:57
have him ranked 28th you said at wide
34:59
receiver? Yeah. So what if
35:01
I – 28th? Well Heath because
35:04
I think Heath is anticipating a multi-game suspension. So
35:06
let me just ask you what if there were
35:08
no suspension? Where would you have her shoe race
35:10
ranked? I
35:14
think worthy matters too. It's not just
35:17
– Brown matters. It's not just
35:19
suspension. Brown matters
35:21
for sure, yes. Agreed. Even
35:25
before you get to the suspension, he can't
35:27
feel great about Rice replicating what he did
35:29
last year. And now he's
35:31
going to be gone until October? Question
35:34
mark? Like we just replaced – in
35:37
terms of his competition, he was
35:40
trying to beat out MVS and Skymore
35:42
and now he's trying to beat out Marquis Brown
35:44
and Xavier Worthy. That's a
35:46
huge difference in target competition. Yeah,
35:48
except I think he's kind of
35:50
earned some cred now after last
35:52
year where maybe it's not as
35:55
much of a target competition as it would
35:57
have been if he had just been meh
36:00
last year. He was pretty good for them. So
36:03
I actually love the
36:05
idea of buying the dip on Rashi Rice and
36:08
just putting him on my bench for the first month of the
36:10
year. Well, can I ask you a question? You
36:12
said you can't expect the same
36:14
production even without the suspension, but
36:16
did you mean his overall production
36:18
which was 938 yards, 7 touchdowns or
36:22
last 6 games of the year when he was top
36:24
12 per game? Yeah,
36:26
it's more of the last 6.
36:28
I don't think you can get
36:30
back there on a
36:33
per game basis once he's back.
36:35
I think he could still be
36:37
a middle of the low
36:39
end wide receiver 2 once he's
36:42
there. He just won't be as consistent. Might
36:44
not have as many targets. Still could
36:46
score a lot though because that's just healthy falling
36:49
for college. He
36:51
took a little bit of a drop. I had pretty much
36:53
decided after he came back that he was going to be
36:55
tied in 1 and I think he's going to
36:57
be tied in 3 now. What
37:00
else is on Heath? Mark Heath Brown? One
37:03
last thing on that because Mahomes was open about talking
37:05
about last year and Nagy and Reid both talked about
37:07
it. We're not going to have a
37:09
consistent number one. Fantasy football managers are going to get
37:12
mad at us because it's a different guy every week.
37:14
But now they've actually got four guys that they could
37:16
do that with and they're good. I don't know that there's
37:19
a guy that sees 22% of the targets on the team.
37:23
That's why Mahomes can be very consistent and
37:25
at a high number every week. It's also
37:27
and look and I really honestly don't have
37:30
an idea. We talked about this over the
37:32
weekend that they've spent a
37:34
lot of time the last couple
37:37
of seasons drafting receivers. Whether
37:40
it was Hardman or Moore or
37:42
Rice or now Xavier Worthy
37:44
and one guy has been productive. One
37:47
guy is incomplete because he hasn't played yet. Two
37:50
guys were flops. You
37:52
could even say that based on when
37:54
they acquired him they got a young Cadere
37:56
Sony who they couldn't cultivate into something also.
37:59
They gave up a third. They
38:02
gave up a third for Tony, yes. It was worth
38:04
it. No, wait,
38:07
wait. No, no. The
38:10
Giants – yes,
38:13
and the Giants traded that for Darren Waller. I
38:18
just like – is
38:22
Rice the exception? Right.
38:25
That's a good question. And did he
38:27
ever look at that or did he just kind of fall into
38:29
the right situation where, okay, he could play. They really needed
38:31
somebody. And he may fall back
38:33
to the pack a little bit with all these guys there. So,
38:35
you know, Marquis Brown coming in as a veteran, you know, he
38:37
should have a leg up, I think, over all the young players,
38:39
you would hope. Yes. That
38:42
doesn't mean he should be the first receiver drafted for the Chiefs. No.
38:45
But it's still a matter of, like, are we expecting
38:47
too much from Xavier Worthy? Yeah.
38:50
Well, what are you expecting? I
38:52
mean, in regards to, let's say, two
38:55
games suspension for Rice, and, like, he's just
38:57
saying they now have four guys who can, you know, steal
38:59
targets from each other. Do they really? Like,
39:02
is it really still just three? And one of those guys is
39:04
just kind of playing the MVS role, which could be Marquis Brown.
39:09
And then what does that leave Worthy if Marquis Brown
39:11
is in the MVS role? Stealing
39:14
from the other guys, but he could also be a gadget player. You know, I
39:16
mean, we have no idea how they're going to use him. You
39:20
know, the comp is sort of, you want him
39:22
to be Tyree Kill. Like, you know, you want
39:24
just a smaller, faster guy that is more than
39:27
just a speed guy. I think, you know, we
39:29
don't want to, you know, discredit what he did
39:31
at Texas, but that's what
39:33
everybody's going to attach him to that's pro
39:35
Xavier Worthy. He's got a chance to be
39:37
Tyree Kill, you know, the lofty glasses full
39:39
expectation. But could
39:41
he also just be Sky Moore? You know what
39:43
I mean? Like, sure. There's
39:46
that potential. You know, they won a Super Bowl
39:48
with Sky Moore and Cadairius Tony doing really next to nothing
39:50
offensively. They caught a touchdown each in the Super Bowl. That
39:52
was their only catch. I
39:55
could say so much about Rashew Rice. I think
39:57
he's fascinating. First of all, he hit the 900.
40:00
yard threshold as a rookie 938
40:02
yards almost always those guys
40:04
do better they get they get better so
40:06
that's great but he did it in a way
40:08
that sucks I think he had the lowest a
40:10
dot among any wide receiver 80 wide receivers 50
40:12
or more targets he had a 4.8 yard
40:15
a dot it's just you've got to get
40:17
a lot of targets if you're gonna be that kind
40:19
of player on the other hand he's got a role
40:21
he's got a role that worthy is not gonna play
40:23
that Markey Brown's not gonna play he's the short area
40:26
guy on the other hand go ahead and look at
40:28
his game log in the postseason he had
40:30
a hundred and thirty yards in the first game of
40:32
the postseason he had less than 50 yards in the
40:34
other three part of that was just now bad efficiency
40:36
but part of that was Travis Kelsey finally woke up
40:38
and had 355 yards in
40:40
four playoff games so when Kelsey was
40:42
more involved you know it seems it seemed to
40:45
hurt Rishi rice a little bit but
40:47
I think was you know how many touchdowns at Kelsey
40:49
scored scored three touchdowns in the postseason rice
40:52
scored one so I don't know there's a lot there
40:54
I think you can do pros and cons I think
40:56
the biggest pro for me would be this Patrick
40:58
Mahomes was on pace last year for
41:01
about 44 I think 4444 yards and 29 touchdown passes he could throw
41:03
for 5240
41:08
and then you might
41:11
have fewer targets but you're just gonna so much
41:13
more production from Mahomes like Mahomes could
41:15
be so much better and bring everyone up with
41:17
him so there are
41:19
a lot of ways they could go with Rishi rice hopefully
41:22
that a dot gets a little higher because I don't
41:24
think he can be super successful with a five-yard eight-odd
41:26
but it's all their office is gonna evolve again like
41:28
I mean this is the fun part of watching this
41:31
offseason like they they went through this metamorphosis
41:33
last year where they were more
41:35
run-heavy they were not necessarily throwing as much
41:38
and their defense was better I mean they lost a big
41:41
piece on defense was need gone you know so who knows
41:43
how successful to be in stopping people they were just dominant
41:45
last year and stopping people which was awesome from
41:47
a defensive standpoint now it's almost like okay
41:49
here you go Patrick we're giving you some
41:51
operant some some weapons again go be
41:54
the MVP like he's
41:56
got that he's chasing legends right now like
41:59
he's gotten opportunity three feet never happened before
42:01
he's got an opportunity to he's in the
42:03
conversation of chasing Brady already and he's gonna
42:05
start stacking MVPs again Like I mean, it's
42:07
it's well within the possibilities him going for
42:09
five thousand and fifty I'm
42:12
sorry to cut you off. Jane. Does any of
42:14
this excite you about Pacheco? And yeah
42:17
fact that this is a team that did nothing at
42:19
running back other than bring back Clyde I'm
42:22
sure they'll bring back McKinnon to knowing them Okay,
42:25
guys, let me take a break. I did about Pacheco We'll
42:27
take a break and get to the rookies
42:29
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42:31
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42:36
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43:35
what do we got here Marvin Harrison or talked about
43:37
he's around to pick for you Why
43:40
don't we start with the wide receivers and then
43:42
we'll get into the quarterbacks and then the leftovers
43:44
there But wide receivers, where's neighbors? Where's the where
43:46
the rest? They're way
43:48
down neighbors for me
43:51
is gonna be around seven and then
43:53
after that I
43:57
know you're gonna take them higher go ahead Yeah,
44:01
I think it's round five guy for me.
44:03
Yeah, you can have him. Uh, Makaki is
44:05
going to be next for me. And then
44:07
do I have a dunes? A Oh, dunes and
44:09
Coleman, I've gone back and forth on. I feel
44:12
kind of gross having Coleman ahead of
44:14
a dunes. A but there's a target crunch in Chicago.
44:16
We've already talked about that. Brian
44:18
Thomas will be behind them. Then
44:20
we get to the Roman
44:22
Wilson Xavier worthy Troy Franklin
44:25
Malachi Corley group. That's
44:27
what I'm looking at for receivers. Everybody else is kind of
44:29
behind them and I might've missed somebody. So if I did,
44:31
I'll point it out as we roll along. So
44:34
I've got Harrison round
44:36
two. I've got lad
44:39
as my wide receiver two in round
44:41
seven neighbors in round eight.
44:46
Brian Thomas in round nine
44:48
and then
44:51
Rome worthy key on Coleman
44:53
in round 10.
44:56
I would ask you guys who do you have
44:58
ranked ahead of them? I feel like a little
45:01
little bit too much right now. So I just
45:03
I think get to know sort of where you
45:05
guys have them conceptually and we'll do some mock
45:07
draft. We got mock drafts lined up for this
45:09
week, Jamie. Okay, so Makaki
45:11
to all right. I'd certainly see the
45:13
logic there. What about key on
45:15
Coleman? He's I'm sorry. I missed that. He
45:18
was like wide receiver six or seven round
45:21
tennis. Yeah, I mean, is
45:23
it just that? Makaki?
45:25
Okay. Why is it that
45:28
Makaki is so much farther ahead than Coleman when
45:30
they went back to back and they obviously are
45:32
in sort of a similar setup? Yeah,
45:35
I think I like Makaki more
45:37
before the draft. I think
45:39
Makaki is going to do a much better job
45:41
of getting wide open to see targets. And while
45:43
neither one of them have a whole lot of
45:46
target competition, I think key on Coleman has more
45:48
target competition than lad makaki. I
45:50
don't know that really mentioned this When
45:53
we talked about Makaki. If there's this concern
45:55
with him. It's for everyone to know could
45:57
be injuries. He's had some some health issues
45:59
in the past. Yeah, it's
46:01
one of many lean rookies in
46:03
the draft class. I rookie quarterbacks.
46:05
Where do we end up on?
46:08
On. Well, all of the rookie quarterbacks they
46:10
have that. Daniels
46:12
is one for me and
46:14
Redraft I've got Tale of
46:16
Next and Mccarthy behind them.
46:19
The. Wearing your ramblings when you're an adult
46:21
of them out to get really matters.
46:24
Where. When I mean where your first to
46:26
Daniels and. And. Okay,
46:28
really of Daniels of fourteen? Caleb.
46:31
It's sixteen. Obviously
46:33
they can move up. They're both really exciting
46:35
and so taking them out of any quarterback
46:37
that's a veteran that is an exciting. All.
46:40
Sense in the world to do that. And I'm kind
46:42
of excited about Mccarthy, but he's not even in my
46:44
top twenty. I've got
46:46
of the advocates offer me take a look
46:48
at and what I like it. I've got
46:51
Daniel that sixteen. Williams. A
46:53
Twenty Mccarthy at Twenty One And
46:55
I think. They are.
46:57
I go on for holding back on Mccarthy.
47:00
Thank. You Jamie, you know a
47:03
single images Insane. And my
47:05
this is something wrong with me. Because. I. I.
47:07
Just love the setup for Caleb Williams
47:09
and holy Cow. So I
47:12
just that the thing about it as like he
47:14
not our job is to tell people when to
47:16
draft these guys. And. You
47:18
can You can make the argument pro and con about taking
47:21
the voucher for arson and the younger player. second if he
47:23
wanted you know try it makes a you're taking too because
47:25
you need is a to if you if you jack because
47:27
at least that way for enough. but like. We.
47:30
Kind of saw maybe the best of to a last year.
47:33
We. Got cousins going to new situation. I think we
47:35
all agree it's like downgrade. you know because the veterans
47:37
of that the the weapons aren't as proven arm. He's
47:40
also coming off Micheli than Juri. Herbert's.
47:42
Going way way they're not going to start panics.
47:44
I have all three guys over cousin so I
47:46
grew that one can plan. It. Out
47:48
Rodgers is coming back from an
47:50
achilles injury. Ah, Herbert has less
47:52
weapons then either of these two
47:54
guys, in my opinion. You
47:58
know So it like he started as nit pick
48:00
somebody that quarterbacks that they're going to be ranked
48:02
around and it's like you know. To.
48:04
To the to the point about sending us coming
48:06
off a thousand yard rushing season like. This.
48:09
Feels like. Something's. Very similar to
48:11
have the richest and last year we were
48:13
all excited about him as a top floor
48:15
of guy because if is rushing upside and
48:17
Caleb Williams steps into. A
48:21
bottle and ruthless the of the three out
48:23
on his. We're excited about it. The riches
48:25
pumped up. I was really run. On.
48:30
The. The Situations
48:32
Day of Williams. I mean my gosh, That's.
48:35
As good receiving corps is any rookie is
48:37
stepping into like feel legacy this route type
48:39
situation know what though the weapons around in
48:41
which we didn't really expect but sir materialized
48:43
that way and so. I'm gonna sue
48:45
for the up in a take the outside you know
48:47
as Daves. As you know you know a draft players
48:50
at the ceiling at this position you'd kind of do
48:52
you know and so in sit in the case of
48:54
of these guys. He. And
48:56
I guess I'm Europe from rephrase that you don't You're not
48:58
drafting them at their ceiling. In terms
49:00
of their. Costs. Because you're
49:02
not drafting them rounds three, four, five,
49:05
whatever for hims of their wait. For.
49:07
Me: It's. Like. I'd rather take these guys
49:09
as the starter and then try and back filled with
49:12
the think I like you Tommy I come away from
49:14
my draft with. Ah, Kill.
49:16
Blames and Jared Goff. I'm fine with that. You
49:18
know, perfectly fine with that. You know, Jane Daniels
49:20
and and Matthew Stafford. I'm fine with. It. Because.
49:23
I have a guy has got thoughts and upside and have a
49:25
gotta could still be a top of guy. The father was. So.
49:28
How about running backs? Anybody.
49:30
Have a running back in their top twenty four. Rookie running
49:33
back. Where. Did I put Brooks
49:35
East or South Side? I think he's just
49:37
inside for me. I know Twenty Six, that's
49:39
where I am. Twenty Six will be an
49:41
arranged for me and I think that this.
49:44
In training camp. If he is ready to go, none of
49:46
the populist will be inside a top twenty Four million all
49:48
the way to twenty. Could be a top twelve running back
49:50
in the second half of the season. And.
49:53
Add site and where's Broth Bowers and has
49:55
been since your second race? Tight! and where's
49:57
he? He's the one server that. I
50:00
think I got Bowers 212 and
50:03
that was fudging the numbers a little bit but
50:06
just because of kind of the argument Jamie was
50:08
making for some of the
50:10
rookie quarterbacks, the upside, I
50:14
don't have another rookie tied into my top
50:17
24 but Ben Sennett would be second. Theo
50:20
Johnson might go ahead of him if
50:23
Darren Waller retires. That
50:26
wasn't a joke. Yeah. Well,
50:29
what about, do you think he just jumps
50:32
Bellinger? Yeah. I
50:35
kind of do too. Bellinger is more of a blocker
50:37
for that. If anybody in this class could jump Bellinger
50:40
it would be Theo Johnson. Incredible athlete.
50:43
Alright, Dave, you have Bowers and
50:45
Ace. Nice. I do. I'm
50:48
excited about him and the prospect of him being
50:52
utilized in a very, very meaningful
50:55
way for Las Vegas. I can't say like
50:58
super heavy 120 targets or anything like that.
51:00
I think he'll fall short of that but
51:02
I think he's going to get carries. I think
51:04
he's going to get a lot of those short targets. I
51:06
think he's going to be utilized near the goal line. I
51:09
think that he's got all kinds of upside to
51:12
be a unique type of fantasy tight end and so
51:14
if I want to get into that I'm going to
51:17
have to draft him ahead of some other tight ends
51:19
that feel safer. Evan Ingram, TJ
51:21
Hockinson, Jake Ferguson, Dallas Goddard.
51:23
You know some of them were studs for
51:25
us last year and we want to go
51:27
back to them. I feel like Bowers is
51:29
a little bit more fun and I'll take
51:31
the chance on him in late round 7
51:33
if that's what it takes to get a
51:35
talent that could absolutely be a difference maker
51:37
for fantasy. Yeah, the only one I wholeheartedly
51:40
disagree with there is Ingram. I
51:42
think Dave said that he has to take
51:44
Bowers over tight ends that feel safer meaning
51:46
Ingram feels safe. That's fine
51:48
but Ingram is like three or four rounds easily
51:50
ahead of Bowers for me. I think in PPR
51:52
Ingram has a lot more upside than Bowers too. Just
51:57
because I think in this offense Ingram is going to see
51:59
as many targets. The Almost Anybody I mean come up one
52:01
hundred cat season and Brian Thomas not the type of guy
52:03
was gonna. Say. That. I
52:07
have one more game for us to play here at the end. Monuments.
52:10
I want to play adverts. For. The
52:12
the notes him as will do it but
52:15
I will say we have a game tonight.
52:17
Big game tonight. He has very low expectations
52:19
for my first softball game in very many
52:21
years. I buy stock in softball game in
52:24
the last fifteen years. He
52:26
thinks I'm going to strike out in slow pitch softball.
52:29
So I don't think that it straight
52:31
out I don't. For it, it's not
52:34
easy. To hit a slow
52:36
pitch softball when you've not seen
52:38
a slow pitch in fifteen years.
52:40
An ama say ground out to the
52:42
third baseman. Others
52:45
are stop. And.
52:47
You're going to be an idiot. They hit the back of the pitcher.
52:50
By. Mistake on your hardest hit box. I
52:53
think the picture of a okay i'm as a
52:55
one for a series of spss was eyes like
52:57
I don't have undercounting years as it's though
52:59
when you They went on to rethink under a
53:02
throwaway one I the Omega Legit line drive base
53:04
hits in right center field. Is
53:06
this call it or? Or
53:09
meant I think it's this man. I don't know
53:11
a single person on the team. Ah,
53:13
This sort of referred by by of
53:15
for a by a neighbor. Who. Didn't
53:18
wanna play they will I said all play So I'm
53:20
going to meet all these new people tonight and I
53:22
said I do I need to bring a bath. Like
53:24
I said no I have a bad for like. My
53:26
concern is that he's never dealt with someone is scrawny
53:28
and week as me and all of the bats are
53:30
going to be too big. It's like when I go
53:32
any good at the at the have you bought a
53:34
bad for and you're pretty boy. it helps protect it
53:36
should just over that just in case. I
53:39
don't have sleeps are going on your deck. I'm
53:41
going to reimburse. I don't have cleats that go
53:43
by cleats please? I'm going to go by as
53:46
that like that's for your own good Abbott. ago
53:48
by for that he gave you the guy so that
53:50
when nuclease then they know you not really know you
53:52
never put with mercury something like before you go to
53:54
the party gotta run around in your cleats first son
53:56
of on a field i'm going to get rid of
53:59
your i was told people wear shorts or
54:01
sweatpants. Oh yeah don't wear baseball pants. Please
54:03
wear baseball pants. I'm not wearing
54:05
baseball pants. I'm gonna wear eye black though
54:07
and stirrups. Is
54:10
your family gonna go watch you? No, no I'm not
54:12
ready for that. I'm not ready for that. Will
54:15
it be streamed anywhere online? I'm not saying like
54:17
you're not gonna tell us. By the way. I
54:20
did yesterday was my first day coaching
54:22
tee ball. It was really fun. They
54:25
didn't keep score so it was a tie. Everyone
54:27
hit a hard run. But what happened when they
54:29
threw the ball to you? Oh right, yes.
54:31
A kid threw the ball to me, threw it way
54:34
over my head and it rolled onto the other team's
54:37
practice area. And the coach, I think it
54:39
was I would say about 20 yards away,
54:41
the coach throws the ball back to me.
54:43
A pretty good throw and I just dropped
54:45
it. And I was like oh god tomorrow
54:47
it's like Monday night's not gonna go well
54:49
for me. Where are you playing? What
54:52
position? Oh I don't know. Right fielder catcher. They're gonna
54:54
put me in right field. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the
54:56
new guy on the team with a bunch of strangers.
54:58
You're playing as far away from everybody as possible. I
55:00
want to see if they put you at catcher. Will
55:03
you stay in a catching position? No.
55:06
No chance. I can't. He's gonna be
55:08
ducking and flinching. You know I have bad knees. I
55:10
can't play catcher like that. You can
55:12
stand back there. Yeah, I'll stand. I'll stand. I can't
55:14
crouch. But I would like
55:16
to say on a more positive note, Heath's
55:19
son is unbelievable at
55:22
basketball. He put a highlight clip
55:24
of him on Twitter. I
55:26
couldn't believe it. The kid is amazing. Is
55:28
he gonna be, this is a serious question,
55:30
is he gonna play college basketball? I
55:33
don't know. I will say that everybody's highlight reel looks great.
55:35
Give the kid a break. Everybody looks better on their highlight
55:39
reel than they do in
55:42
real basketball. But no, he's been working really
55:44
hard and playing really well and that's his
55:46
dream. That's amazing. I was blown
55:48
away. He's really good. I've seen a few practices
55:50
and I've seen that same highlight video. He's really
55:53
good. All right, let's get
55:55
on to our next game here. I tried
55:57
a little spin on Buyer Sell, believe it or not. I'm
56:00
going to go with, yeah, I could see it, or no, you're
56:02
weird. All right,
56:05
sixth round pick wide receiver, Malik
56:07
Washington out of Virginia, will be
56:10
the Miami Dolphins third leading receiver.
56:14
Yeah, I could see it, or no, you're weird. Yeah,
56:16
I could see it. This was an easy one.
56:19
You're weird. I'm
56:21
weird. I thought this was a layup. Who's going to be
56:23
their third leading receiver? Jonathan.
56:27
I think his name is Who, and his last name
56:30
is Cares. Well, that's
56:32
I guess the other. He had 110 catches, I think, last year, Malik
56:34
Washington. He
56:36
led the country in catches and no Dolphins receiver
56:38
in the Tyree Kill era in the last two
56:40
years. No third receiver, as it had
56:42
more than 417 yards. They
56:45
really want production from someone else, and it
56:48
could be Malik Washington. Not that it's going
56:50
to say that's going to be fantasy relevant,
56:52
though. All right, fifth round pick running back,
56:54
Audrey Estimé out of Notre Dame, will
56:57
be Denver's goal line back. Yeah,
57:02
I can see it, or no, you're weird. You think I'm
57:04
weird, Jamie? I just like saying that. Yeah,
57:15
I don't want it to be true, but I could see it. I
57:18
think it's possible Estimé could have a role
57:21
as big as the 1B
57:23
running back and a
57:25
role as small as the second kick
57:27
returner. I think he's
57:30
one of like 14 running backs
57:32
that were taken on day three that are meant
57:34
to play on special teams. He ran a 4-7
57:36
something. How could he play on – He
57:39
takes a hill. How could he
57:41
return kicks? I wouldn't put him at kick
57:43
returner. But it's a different type of kick
57:45
return. I think
57:48
that'd be more – It's
57:50
almost going to be like a running play.
57:54
My favorite Estimé stat because he's just enormous.
57:57
He averaged 6.9 yards per carry in the first half. the
58:00
fourth quarter in each of the last two seasons.
58:02
It could really wear you down. All
58:04
right. Yeah, I could see it or no,
58:06
you're weird. Fourth round running
58:08
back, Ray Davis out of Kentucky will be
58:11
Buffalo's goal line running back. You're
58:13
weird. They
58:15
always have a goal running back though. They
58:17
had Latavius, they have Frank Gore. They even were
58:20
using Leonard Fornett there, I think. And it's pretty
58:22
much never James Cook, rarely James Cook. Trepasso
58:25
was really down on Ray Davis. He
58:29
was outstanding at the senior bowl, but as
58:31
a prospect, he's not great
58:33
mainly because he's old. He's going
58:35
to be 25 years old during the upcoming NFL
58:37
season. Chris said on Saturday that he
58:39
wouldn't be surprised if Frank Gore Jr. is better than Ray Davis.
58:42
Okay. Entirely possible. So
58:45
you're not just viewing him as a goal line back. Okay, next
58:47
one. You're going to laugh at me. Be weird.
58:50
But I'll do it. Yeah, this is weird.
58:52
Fourth round pick Braylon Allen out of Wisconsin will
58:54
be the Jets' goal line running back. No,
58:56
come on. I could absolutely
58:58
see that if Breece Hall decides, I
59:00
don't want to play this week. Breece
59:04
Hall scored 41 touchdowns in his last two
59:06
seasons at Iowa State. Dave,
59:09
this one specifically for you. Yeah, I could see
59:11
it or know you're weird. We should
59:13
talk more about Washington's tight end Ben Sennett. Not
59:19
yet. You're weird for saying that. You kind
59:21
of yelled at me for talking so much
59:23
about him on Friday night as the joke.
59:25
Yeah, because it was a waste of time.
59:27
Alright, next up. Lad McConkie will lead all
59:29
rookies in receptions. You're
59:32
weird. Second. He'll
59:35
be second. Here's
59:38
one. He's going to be second. You're a weirdo. There's
59:41
one that got a
59:43
little bit more of a stretch. Denver
59:45
wide receiver Troy Franklin will lead all
59:48
rookies in receptions. Man,
59:50
what kind of juju are you trying to put
59:52
on Marvin Harrison here? I know he's the favorite,
59:54
but Franklin, I mean, it's like a sleepover. Why
59:56
not say Franklin could lead the Broncos in receptions?
59:59
Yeah. Yeah, that's even a fact. You absolutely
1:00:01
see that. I'm
1:00:03
weird. There's so much to like about where
1:00:06
Franklin ended up. And it's
1:00:08
got some to do with him reuniting with
1:00:10
BONIX, but Sean Payton's
1:00:12
track record of utilizing receivers
1:00:15
strictly to their strengths. It's
1:00:17
awesome. He just didn't think Marvin Mims
1:00:19
had very many strengths, I guess. I guess not,
1:00:21
but here comes Troy Franklin, who's going to potentially
1:00:24
get all sorts of opportunities. I don't even know
1:00:26
if Sutton's going to stay on this team. All
1:00:31
right, at least two of Bucky
1:00:33
Irving with Tampa Bay. You
1:00:36
said Bucky, right? I did. Tampa
1:00:38
Bay Bucky's. Tyrone
1:00:41
Tracy with the Giants and Kamani
1:00:43
Vidal with the Chargers. At
1:00:45
least two of those three will lead their team in rushing.
1:00:49
Yeah, I could sit. You're weird. Yeah.
1:00:52
You're weird. This
1:00:54
is from Dave. Dave, 0RB will
1:00:56
be more popular than ever, which is why now is
1:00:58
the time to target two running backs with your first
1:01:00
three picks. You're
1:01:03
weird. Dave is weird. I
1:01:05
do find myself more interested in drafting a running back in
1:01:07
round one than I have been, because...
1:01:10
It will be hero. Yeah. That'd
1:01:13
be hero. Yeah, hero. All
1:01:15
right. CD Lamb should... This is also from
1:01:17
Dave. CD Lamb should be the first pick
1:01:19
in draft, and Dak Prescott should be a
1:01:21
top five fantasy quarterback. You're
1:01:24
weird. Dave's weird. Yeah, Dave's weird. Wait
1:01:27
a minute. Wait a minute. I'm not saying I would do these things. I'm
1:01:30
just trying to make podcasts content. Hey,
1:01:33
believe me. If anybody gets that, it's me. Here's the
1:01:35
podcast question. Hey, listen. The
1:01:37
draft was very, very good to Dak and CD Lamb.
1:01:41
I challenge that. Why? Why?
1:01:45
Because I don't think that
1:01:47
them having arguably the worst running game in
1:01:49
football, or
1:01:51
a bottom five running game, is good for anyone.
1:01:55
They show... And I went back
1:01:57
and looked. I mean, it's not like you
1:01:59
see a huge correlation. between bad running games
1:02:01
and great fantasy quarterbacks. You do see it
1:02:03
sometimes just because of past attempts,
1:02:05
but they've already shown that they could have
1:02:07
a good running game and still be elite.
1:02:10
Or I don't know if I'm going to call Dak
1:02:12
elite, but he was for the last 10 games or
1:02:14
whatever. But I equate this to the Buccaneers a couple
1:02:17
years ago where they had a terrible running game and
1:02:19
Brady threw a ton and he just struggled. I would
1:02:22
equate it to the Chargers
1:02:24
last year where they had a bad running game.
1:02:26
You know what? They just had a bad offense and Herbert
1:02:28
was good, but he wasn't as good as he
1:02:31
can be. I don't buy the concept that bad
1:02:33
running game is good for a quarterback. They
1:02:36
improved their offensive line. Their defense won't be as
1:02:38
good as it was last year. And
1:02:41
in the second half of the season, they put
1:02:43
it all on Dak and Lam. And
1:02:45
they put up a ton of points. I'm
1:02:48
talking to Cowboys, but a ton of points. And
1:02:50
they got to the playoffs and they got crushed in
1:02:52
the playoffs, but at least they got there. Absolutely
1:02:57
see a path where Lam
1:02:59
leads the NFL in targets per game and
1:03:01
Dak Prescott is a top five quarterback at
1:03:04
the end of the year. Alright,
1:03:07
last one from David. Actually set up
1:03:09
perfectly for them because they didn't add
1:03:11
another big time receiver or a running
1:03:13
back. Matt
1:03:15
Weber was hopes that I'm placed in right field. I will
1:03:17
be. And the team he's on had no idea the team
1:03:20
they were playing were all power hitting left teams. J.J.
1:03:24
McCarthy will be the best rookie quarterback in 2024. I
1:03:29
could see it. Thomas wrote this one. You're weird. David's
1:03:32
weird, but yeah, I could see it, Dave. I
1:03:35
could see it too. I just – I'm not
1:03:37
going to draft it that way, and nobody has to draft it
1:03:39
that way. But we talk
1:03:41
about Caleb Williams falling into this amazing spot where
1:03:43
he's got these past – what did J.J. McCarthy
1:03:45
fall into? And you
1:03:48
know what? I think he's a good
1:03:50
quarterback. And he can run. You think
1:03:53
he'll get to 300 rushing yards? He'll run the least of the
1:03:55
top three. I'm aware. But
1:03:57
do you think he'll get to 300 rushing yards? Maybe.
1:04:01
Sure. He'll have like 20 a
1:04:04
game, as long as he starts week one. Yeah.
1:04:07
If he starts week one, he could have
1:04:09
303 on the ground, but
1:04:11
he could also have 4030 through the
1:04:14
air. I have a super flex rookie only
1:04:16
draft starting in about two hours and I have the fifth
1:04:18
pick. And it's, I
1:04:21
mean, my choice is going to be between McCarthy
1:04:23
and neighbors. How
1:04:26
bad do you need a quarterback? You're the Giants. My
1:04:29
starting quarterbacks are Gino Smith and
1:04:31
Matthew Stafford. I'm taking McCarthy if he's there. Congratulations.
1:04:34
Take neighbors, take neighbors. You're making
1:04:37
a mistake. I
1:04:39
don't think I'll have a choice. It's going to be one of the two. Yeah. Take
1:04:42
neighbors. Oh, oh, oh, oh. If neighbors go for,
1:04:44
I'm taking McCarthy, McCarthy goes for, I'm taking neighbors.
1:04:46
Okay. What if someone drafts Kamani Vidal
1:04:48
third overall and all of a sudden you can draft
1:04:50
both, you can draft either one. I'll
1:04:54
trade back one spot. You're such
1:04:56
a jerk. I'm
1:04:58
sorry. I'm with her. You put my doubt
1:05:01
third. Which
1:05:04
wide receiver are you drafting first? 666
1:05:06
votes. Ooh,
1:05:08
spooky. Marvin Harrison is
1:05:10
the winner. 30.6%
1:05:14
followed by Drake London, who Schaefer
1:05:16
voted for at 26.7% followed by Devontae Adams at
1:05:20
22%, 21% is changing
1:05:23
a little bit and Chris Olave just behind Devontae
1:05:25
Adams. It's a pretty close poll, but Marvin Harrison,
1:05:27
678 votes is the leader ahead of Adams Olave.
1:05:31
No reason he might have there at all. Who
1:05:34
would you have voted for? London. Alright
1:05:39
guys, Rachel, thank you very much. We'll talk to you
1:05:41
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don't believe in it. Is
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