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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave,

1:48

Jamie and Heath. right

2:01

now on fantasy football today now Jamie and

2:03

Heath are here Jamie gave his bus about

2:05

a month and a half ago with Dave

2:07

Heath wasn't on that show so today we're

2:09

gonna focus on Heath's bus and also some

2:11

from the audience like we have a really

2:13

interesting Tyreke Hill take from an audience member

2:15

we have a lot of votes for Drake

2:17

London in my Twitter mentions so we'll get

2:19

back in that was even though we've kind

2:21

of beaten a dead horse on that but

2:23

here's what we're gonna start with guys Heath

2:25

you have two players at the top of

2:28

your bus list Josh Allen and Derek Henry

2:30

I'm trying to figure out who's gonna be drafted

2:32

first I'm looking at some industry drafts I'm looking

2:34

at some ADP let's just say depends

2:37

on your league how early you draft

2:39

quarterbacks maybe they're both gonna be like

2:41

round three picks top 30 picks something

2:43

like that who's a bigger bus if

2:46

they have similar draft costs Derek Henry

2:48

or Josh Allen so I

2:50

think the easy answer to that is in analyst

2:52

drafts and our drafts Derek Henry will be the

2:55

bigger bus because he will be the guy who's

2:57

drafted maybe in round two or early round three

2:59

and Josh Allen will go after him and

3:02

in normal people dress Josh Allen is gonna be

3:04

a first round pick drafted as QB one and

3:06

he's going to be the biggest bust what

3:10

if they go back-to-back 32 and 33 who's a bigger

3:14

bus I would rather have Derek Henry

3:16

than Josh Allen so I

3:18

guess that would make me in a one quarterback league

3:21

so I guess that would be me say

3:23

and I think it's interesting you put them

3:25

together because the case for both of them

3:27

not being a bust is that they just

3:29

run for 15 touchdowns again and it doesn't

3:31

matter okay Jamie who do

3:33

you think they go back-to-back Derek Henry and Josh

3:36

Allen is a bigger bust I

3:38

don't think Josh Allen's getting drafted as QB one so

3:40

I don't think Josh Allen's going in round one I

3:42

think Josh Allen will probably go very close to Derek

3:44

Henry Allen

3:46

will be a bigger bust because I don't

3:48

think he's going to score 15 touchdowns on the

3:51

ground again and I think his passing numbers

3:53

are going to be not

3:55

as prolific as they have been when he's been under

3:57

the best so I agree with the

3:59

call on Josh Allen. Do you agree with

4:01

the call on Derek Henry? No,

4:03

I don't. I think this is a good setup for

4:05

him if he stays healthy. The only thing I think

4:08

that will ruin Derek Henry is if he gets hurt.

4:10

I think from a production and performance standpoint, he will

4:12

be fine. He's –

4:14

we actually kind of did this on Monday's

4:17

show. I made the bus case for Derek Henry, but now

4:19

you get to make it better. Go ahead. I

4:22

don't know if I'll make the better one or not,

4:24

but it definitely starts with the fact that you're talking

4:26

about a 30-year-old running back on a team that's not

4:28

going to throw to their running backs and

4:31

historically has split up the

4:33

running back touches. And

4:35

oh yeah, Lamar Jackson's going to take 30% of

4:38

the team's rush attempts. So I think that

4:40

we will see a lower number of total

4:42

rush attempts for Derek Henry and

4:44

probably a slight decrease like we saw

4:47

for most of his career before the

4:49

last two. And

4:51

I think that's kind of the biggest thing that we've seen in the last

4:53

two years, because we've seen a lot of changes in the teens in terms

4:55

of receptions, 18, 19, 18, 15. The last two years, 28 and 33, I

4:57

think that comes back down. And

5:05

we did see a little bit of a drop off

5:07

in his efficiency as a rusher last year. I'm not sure that's kind

5:09

of down the pack. But

5:13

what about the Lamar Jackson carries, just the running back carries?

5:15

As he's mentioned it, Baltimore has the tendency to do that.

5:18

I would love to see what the work would have

5:21

been for J.K. Dobbins last year if we didn't get

5:23

hurt in week one. But what do you think? Do

5:25

you think there's anyone else that factors

5:27

in in any meaningful way for Baltimore?

5:31

Meaningful way in terms of 10 touches

5:34

per game, 15 touches per game? I

5:37

mean 15 would be, Derek Henry should be like an eighth

5:39

round pick if someone else is getting 15. Well

5:41

I mean touches matter in terms of receptions. He's not going to

5:43

have a lot of catches. Do

5:46

you think anyone gets more than

5:49

eight touches a game? No. You have

5:52

Keaton Mitchell coming back from an ACL tear. I'm sure they're going

5:54

to be careful with him and make sure he's healthy. He may

5:56

be the running back of the future. He's certainly not

5:58

going to be the running back of 2024. Justice

6:01

Hill has kind of proven to be a

6:03

guy that I don't think will warrant very

6:05

many touches. It's easy to split up touches

6:07

when you don't have a player like this. When you have

6:09

Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins and, you

6:11

know, an aging Mark Ingram. I mean, it's a

6:13

different story. It's a different conversation. You know, this

6:15

guy is an aging player, but they

6:18

didn't bring him in or sign him to, I think, use him

6:20

in a part-time role. This is still

6:22

a guy that can get the job done. And

6:24

the thing that I look at from what we

6:27

talked about on Monday, and this

6:29

is where I come out with him, and it's really the only

6:31

way that I come out with him on this, is that he's

6:34

stepping into a situation where the guy that

6:36

was playing there before him, who

6:38

is not close to the same caliber player, scored

6:40

13 rushing touchdowns in this offense. And

6:43

that's Gus Edwards. And what did Derek

6:45

Henry do last year when the team was winning

6:47

and successful? He was a very productive running back,

6:49

a very productive fantasy option. This team

6:51

is going to win more games than they lose. And

6:54

so, again, if he stays healthy, he

6:56

should get 15-plus touchdowns. If

6:59

he doesn't stay healthy, then he's a bust, but that's just

7:01

the risk you have to take. And that's where I think

7:03

Keith is 100% accurate. You're taking a chance on a 30-year-old

7:05

running back. And the history suggests that these guys don't

7:07

always stay healthy. So I'm 100% buying to that.

7:10

You know how I feel about older players.

7:13

But he's just proven to be an alien. And so

7:15

that's the thing. It's like every time we ride

7:17

him off, oh, he got the foot injury. He's not going to come back the same.

7:19

He comes back the same, comes back. This is good. Last

7:22

year, yes, there was a down year for him. But

7:24

again, you look at wins or competitive

7:26

games, he was still among the best fantasy

7:28

options. So the recessions don't matter to me.

7:30

Lamar Jackson's rushing doesn't matter to me. It's

7:33

a matter of will he score 15-plus touchdowns if he

7:35

stays healthy? And for me, the answer is yes. So

7:38

I think the competitive game thing

7:40

will still remain true. Another

7:43

habit Baltimore has had is it seems like they win

7:45

three or four games a year and Lamar

7:47

sits halfway through the third quarter. I'd

7:51

take the over on eight touches per game

7:53

if you're talking about Keaton Mitchell plus Justice

7:55

Hill. But because Mitchell's coming

7:58

off the ACL, I'm not sure that Mitchell himself

8:00

will get there, but I wouldn't be surprised if those,

8:02

I would expect those two to combine for somewhere between

8:04

10 and 12 a game. So,

8:07

yeah, so I'm

8:09

looking now, Jamie, that was a really beautifully long

8:11

answer because it gave me all this time to

8:13

look up for the first time to JK Dobbins

8:15

roll. And he got hurt

8:17

about five minutes into the

8:20

third quarter of week one. And

8:22

up to that point, I believe he had

8:24

every carry except for one. Gus

8:27

Edwards did not have a carry and Justice Hill had one carry

8:29

up to that point. I actually think Gus Edwards came in for

8:31

a two-point conversion. But official

8:33

carry, I think Dobbins had all

8:35

of them except for one. So

8:38

take that 2.3 quarters

8:40

of football and do what you

8:42

will with it. You

8:44

know, I was thinking about comparisons to Derek Henry

8:48

and what did I have here? Le'Veon Bell,

8:50

2019, 2020, it was the third-round pick

8:52

in ADP. He

8:57

had an absolutely horrible season. He

8:59

was with the Jets for two games and then the

9:01

Chiefs for seven games, whatever. That was the end of

9:03

Le'Veon Bell. He was coming off kind

9:06

of a bad year and he still was a third-round pick

9:08

as he got like 60 catches the year before, 66. Ezekiel

9:12

Elliott was a third-round pick in

9:14

2022 coming off kind

9:17

of a bad year where he actually finished

9:19

about 18th, 19th per game, which is what

9:21

Derek Henry was last year depending on the

9:23

format. I will say

9:25

Henry was playing a lot better than those guys were, however,

9:28

he's also older than they were. They were like 27, 28 and he's

9:31

30. I

9:33

don't know. Did that – I do

9:35

get – that's what scares me a

9:37

little bit. We weren't out on Le'Veon Bell and

9:39

Ezekiel Elliott because they were legends until they were

9:41

absolutely horrible. Does that matter?

9:43

Did he buy that comparison at all?

9:47

I mean, I think – I don't know

9:49

about the specific players because there were some

9:52

weird things that happened with Le'Veon obviously throughout

9:54

his career. But in terms of the idea

9:56

of we just – we weren't out on

9:58

them because they'd been so good before. until

10:00

they were bad. I think that makes sense.

10:02

The difference is that Henry's another couple of

10:04

years older than those guys were when that

10:06

happened. Yeah. But better. That

10:08

is the other difference. Like the age is

10:10

going against him, but he was performing better.

10:12

Those guys were coming off really concerning seasons.

10:14

Like I can't believe we drafted him in

10:16

the third round. Well you said that, Elliot,

10:18

it was like around RV20 per game like

10:20

Henry was last year, right? Yes,

10:22

he was. But he was showing signs of

10:24

wear and tear and lacking all

10:27

the explosiveness was gone pretty much. Derek

10:29

Henry's had a rush over 55

10:32

yards in like seven straight seasons. It's crazy.

10:35

But he was also splitting with Tony Pollard. I guess we

10:37

didn't know how much the split would be. And

10:39

here's the thing about Zeke. He scored 12

10:41

touchdowns that year and he

10:43

still was a bust. That's like all

10:45

he did. Henry scored 12 touchdowns last

10:47

year and was a bust. No, he scored 12 touchdowns

10:50

the following year, like the year. I know.

10:52

Well, right. But I'm saying you can score

10:54

12 touchdowns and still be a low

10:56

end RB2. I mean, Edwards was that last

10:58

year. I just think that Henry will

11:00

be a better version of Edwards. Yeah. Let

11:02

me make sure I had that number right

11:05

on Zeke. Yeah, he scored 12 touchdowns and

11:07

he was RB22 overall. Okay.

11:09

All right. And then I

11:11

don't know if there's anything else you want to say about Josh Allen. Like, hey,

11:14

let me ask you this about Josh Allen. Because

11:16

I think the big bust case for him is

11:18

that he scored 15 rushing touchdowns last year. That's

11:21

going to come down. But what we never

11:23

really say is that he seemed to gain

11:25

what he gained in rushing touchdowns. He lost

11:28

in passing touchdowns. And could

11:30

you see that balancing out? Because it's almost

11:32

like the same amount of total touchdowns four

11:34

years in a row almost. Yeah,

11:37

I think probably not. We did see

11:40

actually a decline in the total and their number

11:42

of Russia temps last year as well and a

11:44

decline in the rush efficiency. He was back down

11:46

around four and a half yards per carry and

11:48

four and a half carries per game. We

11:51

did see a small decrease

11:53

in the pass touchdowns. Some

11:56

of that has to do with he

11:58

threw fewer passes per game. touchdown rate

12:00

was a little bit down, but it was still 5%,

12:02

which is above average. And

12:06

I have a hard time expecting that his

12:09

touchdown rate is going to rebound up when

12:11

I expect his receiving core to be worse.

12:15

Yeah. I, yeah, okay.

12:18

I just, he ran the ball more near

12:20

the end zone and threw the ball less

12:22

near the end zone, at least like within the

12:25

three yard line, which, but

12:27

you know, you are losing Stephon Diggs, so. It's

12:30

just going to be hard overall. All right,

12:33

check out FFT Dynasty. I

12:35

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12:38

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12:41

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12:43

talked about, it was with Ryan Heath. We talked

12:45

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12:47

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12:49

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12:51

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12:54

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12:56

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13:12

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13:14

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13:16

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14:26

We got a couple of potentially elite

14:28

running backs. Jamie, are

14:31

you worried about them? They got little OTA

14:33

injuries. Josh Jacobs hamstring injury. Kyron Williams is

14:35

not going to participate in OTAs with a

14:38

foot issue that Sean McVay said is nothing

14:40

to worry about. What about you, Jamie? Are

14:42

you concerned about Jacob's or Kyron? No.

14:45

No. Not yet. I think

14:48

the Kyron

14:52

one is interesting just because of

14:54

the quorum edition. I guess you make the

14:56

same thing with Jacob's with the Lloyd edition.

14:59

But the fact that it's

15:02

at this point in the season, they're just going to

15:04

be cautious. I mean, I think we're, I

15:06

didn't see exactly what Raheem Moore said about Bijon Robinson,

15:08

but they're being cautious with him in Atlanta too. There's

15:11

no reason to run these guys out there if

15:14

there's something bothering them. If you want to

15:16

make a case for Kyron Williams being concerned

15:18

that he had foot issues in his rookie

15:20

season, then I can understand that but it'll

15:22

probably push the ADP of any drafts that

15:25

are going on in whatever

15:27

form. Best ball, rookie only, you know, for guys

15:29

like Horm and Lloyd, they might bump up a

15:31

couple of spots because, oh, maybe there's the chance

15:33

that they play sooner rather than later. So

15:36

I understand that but as of now, no. Matthew

15:40

Stafford was on the field for OTAs. There's some

15:42

players who are in contract situations that we don't

15:45

know if they're going to participate or not. Matthew

15:47

Stafford was a yes, T Higgins

15:49

is a no, and T Higgins is the

15:51

only franchise player, the only player that got

15:53

the tag that hasn't signed it yet. So

15:55

he actually cannot participate in OTAs. Brandon

15:58

Ayuk sitting out right now, Justin. Jefferson,

16:01

Tristan Wurf, offensive tackle for the

16:03

Buccaneers. These guys are looking

16:06

for new contracts. Daniel Jones. I

16:10

didn't say CD-Lam. No, I think I said that

16:12

one on Monday maybe, but

16:14

I should have said that. CD-Lam as well. Daniel

16:17

Jones recovering from ACL injury. What?

16:20

Tua is with the Dolphins even though he's dealing

16:22

with contract situations. Yes, we have

16:24

a note about his physique coming

16:26

up. Okay, Daniel Jones,

16:28

recovering from the torn ACL. He is participating in

16:30

OTAs, so it looks like a good

16:32

chance he'll be ready for week one. Aaron

16:35

Rodgers has no restrictions in OTAs, but

16:37

Michael Williams coming off the ACL injury,

16:39

he has not been cleared for football

16:41

activities. Tua has lost

16:43

10 to 15 pounds. He's down to about

16:45

220 pounds, whereas Lamar Jackson has lost about

16:47

10 pounds from last year, and he's down

16:50

to 205 pounds. That

16:52

is light for Lamar Jackson. I

16:55

don't know if anybody cares about that stuff. Yeah,

16:59

it's important. Lamar

17:01

knows he doesn't have to do anything near the goal line anymore. That's

17:04

true. Justin Fields, according

17:07

to The Athletic, is competing with Russell

17:09

Wilson for the starting job. Russell

17:12

Wilson is – or Justin Fields is

17:14

a sneaky, super flex pick right now.

17:18

There were two quotes yesterday that I liked. One

17:20

was from Justin Fields. I don't plan on sitting

17:22

the whole year, so keep that in

17:24

mind if you are in the Russell Wilson camp. And

17:28

Aaron Rodgers saying, I can still throw it with the best of them.

17:32

He's such a humble guy though, you know. It was

17:35

unusual to hear him say something like that.

17:38

I think the interesting thing with the Steelers is if you

17:40

don't believe in Justin Fields as a passer, it

17:43

might sway how you feel about George Pickens. If

17:46

you like the chains, if you like people trying

17:49

to walk in a straight line for like

17:51

30 yards and measure something, well, we might

17:53

be done with those. The NFL is going

17:55

to use optical tracking instead of chains

17:58

in the preseason to determine first down. It's

18:00

2024, I think it's about time for that.

18:03

Hopefully they'll keep it going in the regular season. Patriots

18:06

guard Cole Strange could miss

18:08

weeks, maybe a couple months

18:11

in the regular season. He's got a knee injury.

18:13

That's a tough blow for the Patriots. Saints

18:16

head coach Dennis Allen said that cornerback Marshawn Lattimore

18:18

will be on the team in They

18:21

plan to move forward with him. And an interesting quote

18:23

from Dolphin Safety Jevon Holland.

18:25

He said the difference between former

18:27

defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, who is

18:30

now the Eagles defensive coordinator, and

18:33

current defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver. It's

18:35

a complete 180. And the

18:37

fact that Weaver is a good person makes

18:40

a difference. Oh,

18:42

shots fired. All

18:44

right, he's back to your bus. So Josh

18:46

Allen, Derek Henry, this one, I mean, is

18:48

this a typo? This

18:50

is David Montgomery on your bus list? You

18:53

love David Montgomery. Yeah,

18:56

I buy into the fact

18:58

that Jameer Gibbs is going to have a larger role.

19:01

And a lot of Montgomery's production came

19:03

early in the year when Gibbs was

19:05

either being limited by the Lions or

19:08

was actually hurt. Two of his three

19:10

games with over a hundred yards, five

19:13

of his 13 touchdowns came in

19:15

three games early in the year. The

19:18

only game he had all season with more than

19:20

three targets. I don't, I, and

19:22

I don't, listen, I don't know exactly where Montgomery's going

19:24

to end up getting drafted. I don't

19:26

want to draft him as a starter. He's a number three

19:28

running back for me. Me

19:30

oh my, I don't know what it's, it's

19:33

Bizarro Day. I'm looking at the last two

19:35

drafts that we did, half PPR and full

19:37

PPR after the NFL draft. And I drafted

19:39

David Montgomery in both of them in the

19:42

fifth round. Slightly

19:45

earlier, about five picks earlier in the

19:48

half PPR draft, which makes sense.

19:50

But Jamie, what do you

19:52

think? Did I draft Montgomery too early in

19:54

the fifth round? I

19:58

Don't think so. A good spot

20:01

for a know when when and. And

20:03

on and on this I disagree to call him a number

20:05

three running back I think when you start to get busy

20:07

past like. Rb. Sixteen, Rb, seventeen,

20:09

Eighteen Rains. You know they're all kind

20:12

of blend together the next six or

20:14

seven guys, so. I don't

20:16

know he has ahead of him. That's.

20:19

Of of note that. Know.

20:21

I would say Montgomery's better. The thing

20:23

that I I I see Montgomery will

20:26

still do. Is. Score

20:28

touchdowns and so no again. I

20:30

don't think anybody was ever drafting him to

20:32

be a pass catchers bus. Yeah to the

20:34

adage, make it last year. They've now gone

20:37

to years a row with a slower or.

20:39

Less. Explosive option. On

20:42

their own team. As. That goal

20:44

line guy and I don't think that's going to

20:46

change to my. Williams led the Nfl in rushing

20:48

touchdowns two years ago. David Mock Army see or

20:50

thirteen rushing touchdowns last year I think they liked.

20:52

I think the and Campbell likes having that says

20:54

have a presence in so Ah yes gives will

20:56

have a bigger role. Yes gives it the better

20:58

the to that That goes without saying. But.

21:00

I don't think that they have a mug. I'm risk of we were going

21:02

away so. Ah, Either. Said

21:04

it. You know you could still score. Ten.

21:07

Twelve plus touchdowns and not be an elite

21:09

fantasy option. But. Back.

21:11

And rb to Rains that's kind of where they

21:14

mock armies expected to be drafted and I think

21:16

that's kind of x the expectation away. Savage now

21:18

hill he will perform. Yeah.

21:21

I'm in. The rankings are crazy. You're

21:23

right the right now in Ppr David

21:25

Jamie has Montgomery eighties and are be

21:27

eighteen and he has an army thirty

21:29

one. Ah say the seasons.

21:31

We think about this that last nine

21:33

games of the season. That's when

21:36

Montgomery came back from the injury

21:38

Sedgemoor Guns in had established himself

21:40

at that point. I give this

21:43

was our ten per game in

21:45

half and full ppr. Montgomery.

21:48

Was. Top. Thirteen overall,

21:50

but per game or be eighteen

21:53

and half ppr rb twenty in

21:55

full ppr. So. that's exactly

21:57

where jamie has basically and they've had him

21:59

ring That's exactly where I drafted him pretty

22:01

much. I drafted his RB 18 in the half

22:03

PPR league You have him

22:05

31st. So he did that with a 17

22:09

game pace of only 236 carries and 19 catches but 13

22:11

touchdowns Right

22:16

I If I remember correctly

22:18

Gibbs was actually getting a little bit more work

22:20

in the red zone and inside the 10 in

22:23

the second half Of the year you had one

22:25

more rushing touchdown than Montgomery had in those final

22:27

nine games I don't have

22:29

like a big gap between RB20

22:33

and RB 30 and So

22:35

that it took just a little bit of

22:37

a change to his usage to drop him down

22:39

in those in those

22:41

projections But I do

22:43

think That I expect

22:45

for Gibbs to have a larger share of the

22:47

role than he had in those final nine games

22:50

last year Yeah, I mean

22:52

in those but in those last nine

22:54

games Montgomery scored seven touchdowns and Gibbs

22:56

scored eight and They had

22:58

basically the same amount of carries inside

23:00

the five-yard line 11 from Montgomery 10

23:02

for Gibbs But then the postseason came

23:05

and Montgomery had eight carries inside the

23:07

five-yard line and Gibbs had zero So

23:10

I Dan Campbell loves Dave Montgomery. What

23:12

is the difference between Montgomery and Rahim

23:14

Mostert? H

23:20

Better offensive line Yeah

23:27

I'm more concerned about the health of

23:29

a Chan than I am Gibbs I

23:31

think Gibbs will have a bigger role

23:33

than a channel Who

23:36

has more injury upside if

23:38

Gibbs and a Chan both got hurt? There's

23:43

a third guy there in Miami now, so it's kind of an unknown But

23:46

I would say most most are probably has more upside of a

23:48

chain gets hurt because at least you know what? You

23:51

know, I take that back. No Montgomery has much I'd

23:54

say slightly most are but I don't have a strong

23:57

feeling about it. No, I

23:59

think I need to make that sound By little bit longer hit.

24:01

Six. You brief gate at a lot

24:03

for as long as I move it

24:06

on. Oh I guess we do a

24:08

little bit of the of Montgomery or

24:10

still, Montgomery or Devin Singletary. Mchenry.

24:15

I'm. Just get big. I'm getting a very

24:17

just barely right now as we have

24:19

a he's a big that I know

24:21

people get that I was ah I'll

24:23

usually your favorite things that I've already.

24:25

Zach Moss. The. Iowa

24:27

I think both of them in every draft though.

24:30

his draft. Montana. And

24:33

I do have most are a couple spots ahead. I'm a gummer.

24:37

Yeah look, I Love! I love Heath's

24:39

rankings because they they are bold a

24:41

different. You know that you'll get. Montgomery.

24:44

In our Be Thirty One, although in fantasy prose.

24:48

Ah he is going pretty lazy aren't

24:50

well as rb nineteen but seventy fifth

24:52

overall. Though. I guess Whatever. Atp:

24:54

I would guess that most of the

24:56

fantasy prose a D P his best

24:58

ball Atp. If I'm just

25:00

guessing the I mean like Brian Thomas is

25:02

going ahead of Aaron Jones or A.for their

25:05

regular drastic. right? Maybe I

25:07

just that's why I don't. I

25:09

don't think there's any good he atp at. now. there isn't.

25:12

Okay I next on the bus

25:14

list is Stefan Digs. He.

25:16

Will turn thirty one on November

25:18

twenty ninth. And.

25:21

Really horrible in the last eight games of the

25:23

season where he was. Not

25:25

even a top forty receiver on

25:27

either A pro gamer overall basis

25:29

of a Stefan Digs: what round

25:31

would he have to go into

25:33

be a busted like whoa, that's

25:35

too early for Stefan Decks. Oh

25:39

man you have ruined. When I was going

25:41

to say I was going to have to

25:43

bring up something I learned this morning the

25:45

Allen Robinson's on the Giants and I think

25:47

it was Allen Robinson who is the first

25:50

wide receiver that I said when a guy

25:52

gets lateness twenties, early thirties and shows you

25:54

that he's lost a step believe I'm ah

25:56

I'm I don't want to draft define digs.

26:00

In the first five

26:02

rounds. Four.

26:05

Rounds okay around five. Be okay with it

26:07

in a twelve the league. Is.

26:09

It okay and around five. I do have

26:12

him third amongst the Texans wide receivers. He

26:14

did have his lowest yards per catch last

26:16

year since he was in Minnesota his lowest

26:18

yards per target the since he was in

26:21

Minnesota, his lowest yards per game since he

26:23

was in Minnesota. You now has more competition

26:25

for targets than he had and Buffalo, so

26:28

I don't think you can just call him

26:30

seeing ten target a game like he has

26:32

for most of the past four seasons. Okay,

26:36

Jamie, I'm seeing Stefan digs thirty

26:38

six overall in our Ppr draft.

26:41

About. Forty second overall

26:43

and are half ppr draft.

26:45

In. The E S P N Draft he went

26:48

thirty nine silver all. So. Yell.

26:51

Later the yeah two, three, four turn

26:53

or maybe a little bit and around

26:55

for. That's. Too early for he's have of

26:57

Ryo. In a

26:59

to receive really gets too early in the three

27:01

years. He really that's about the spotless expectantly go

27:03

because how receivers get pushed up and I think

27:05

how most people should be drafting the position which

27:07

is he in of the top. Twenty

27:10

five to thirty receivers said be

27:12

going in the first forty. Some

27:14

odd tax on. Your. Based on

27:16

how the the position positions shake out

27:18

so I don't mind him in that

27:21

range. but. I do think

27:23

that it's very fascinating. Discussion.

27:25

And were inhabit a lot of Collins vs.

27:28

Digs vs Down and which is the best

27:30

of the trio and who's the worst and

27:32

the worst might be really bad. Now.

27:34

You know, just based on how history tells

27:37

us that at it's difficult for three receivers

27:39

to finish and top twenty four and so

27:41

how far off while the third one. Be.

27:43

If all three do not get

27:45

there and so you know the

27:47

i think that saxons. Set.

27:49

Up the findings to have a big season training

27:51

for him and giving him the opportunity to prove

27:53

that he still has an opportunity to play a

27:55

high level. Changing. His contract

27:58

and allow him to go out and earn

28:00

another hey if in fact, he's going to

28:02

get one. And so they. Dangled. A

28:04

care in front of him and they said. Go.

28:06

Go get your bag if you if you think you

28:08

still cable doing it and. That. Sort

28:11

of give me a little bit of hope that he's

28:13

not going to. You. Know not

28:15

that he took place, offer or or whatever but that

28:17

there was story's going into last year. At this point

28:19

about he was disgruntled in Buffalo and you may have

28:21

played itself out over the course the season. So he's

28:23

where the quarterback on the rise is where the guy

28:25

think that will value him. He's with the team. I

28:28

think that's going to give an opportunity to succeed. And

28:30

so how much does that push back and push down

28:32

the value of the other two guys? So I'm finding

28:34

it's hands on him and as as a lower number

28:36

two receiver I don't wanna reach for him. I certainly

28:38

don't think he's at the same caliber player that used

28:40

to be. And how much of last year was the

28:42

change and off and how much was it he just.

28:44

Wanted out how much of it was as

28:47

he said which is probably know that the

28:49

most easy thing to identify is that. At

28:51

his age that he was a step. And we're going

28:53

to out. so. Don't reach for

28:56

him. Don't overvalue him. The.

28:58

Three Four turn I think is a good spot in a

29:00

through see really. The. There was

29:02

a players are got the Jamie Rockets

29:04

and Mogi yesterday or the day before

29:06

on Twitter that I saw and Die

29:09

is now one spot behind Digs in

29:11

my wide receiver rankings. I think it's

29:13

a really interesting comparison Group Godwin. One.

29:17

Of the Rocket Ship a movie Jamie. Ah,

29:19

he spoke about the new offensive being back in

29:21

slot was that allows him to play at I

29:24

think a more comfortable level for him. Oh yeah

29:26

I love it! I. Do I

29:28

Will Let me let me through this scenario. You

29:30

can. What? Is digs in,

29:32

loses that what is? He just was

29:34

not a fit for Joe Brady's all

29:36

sense the as if he was so

29:39

good at the start of the season.

29:41

And there is an article that I'm

29:43

reading now. I read a few my

29:45

whenever came out last month or something

29:47

that's as from Cbs sports.com April ninth

29:49

by Douglas Clawson and it's why Stefan

29:52

Daves returned superstar form with the Texans

29:54

after discouraging final stretch with the Bills.

29:56

Know. I for one, I don't see

29:58

him returning to Super. There are formed

30:00

is because of the targets but there

30:03

are some compelling case is in this

30:05

story about why. He was

30:07

not doing well, specifically under Joe Brady.

30:09

He had twenty three receiving yards on

30:11

play action in nine games with Brady

30:14

compared to three hundred and forty six

30:16

before I did worse when he was

30:18

in motion, half of Digs targets with

30:21

Joe Brady were either screens or quick

30:23

hitches compared to forty two percent prior

30:25

that the little bit more. But mostly

30:28

it was that he wasn't getting anything

30:30

done in the vertical passing game and

30:32

he was before the job. Brady higher.

30:35

And this article. Theorizes.

30:37

That job ready to didn't do a good

30:39

job of scheming. Stefan digs open basically and

30:41

that body slow with will so you know

30:43

whether you want to listen to this article

30:45

or not. you just look at the sec.

30:47

Seem so much better before the office of

30:49

ordinator change our when Josh Allen's passing numbers

30:51

were better to. by the way, can you

30:53

buy that that he didn't actually show us

30:55

that he was losing the separatists? It didn't

30:57

happen to start a season, happen mid season

30:59

and it to happen under jailbreak. I.

31:03

Think it's possible that's true, that it makes

31:05

me feel a little better about my Josh

31:07

Allen busskohl I give just tipped over Haiti's

31:09

the problem, But. I

31:12

just and I think it really just comes down also to

31:14

how you feel about Tank Dell and they go Cohen's. Because.

31:18

I. I. Think they're both kind of

31:20

ascending stars. And

31:23

I don't think that they, especially with the

31:25

way the Stroud seems to feel about Dell.

31:27

I don't think they'd bring in digs and

31:29

just sideline one of those two guys. Which.

31:32

Is as rather have Stefan Digs

31:34

or T Higgins. Higgins

31:38

as of now, but obviously his

31:40

status will determine. I'm

31:42

a little lower on Higgins I think than the crowd,

31:44

so I do have digs just out of I'm Digs

31:46

or Cup. Cup.

31:50

Ah wow, they're very close for me. I'll

31:52

lean digs right now or take up. Digs:

31:55

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31:59

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33:11

Okay, Jamie, I don't think you're going to argue

33:14

too much with the Keenan Allen busskohl, right? Us?

33:16

What he says Keenan Allen did. He ended up

33:18

in round seven in our most recent draft. And

33:21

yes, the V Six seven turn

33:23

solicitors round seven in our to

33:25

dress. Or. That see the Is T and

33:27

draft. I think I did. actually he was sixty eighth

33:30

winter over this on Monday. Little bit we were talking

33:32

about. oh do they see eye to eye expected? Who's

33:34

gonna have an Atp higher than wrong Seven and four

33:36

pp or with that could be wrong and I don't

33:39

have him and around seven I've got him and rounded.

33:42

And. No agreement. Know disappeared from Jamie I assume.

33:45

You know where mean as we talked about in

33:47

a with the up. The. So on

33:49

Monday that. When. Be surprising if if Romo

33:52

Dunes is better than him in our cities, a more

33:54

is better than him in I. I've I've said this

33:56

quite a bit. He was on my my Bacillus earlier

33:58

as well. That. You know

34:00

the the change of environment scares me. You know,

34:02

going to scavo, going to play. You.

34:05

Know it in. In this

34:07

weather could be a problem you know as the season

34:09

gets colder you know is he's and goes on as

34:11

as a as whether guess holders are. You're

34:14

not going to be. You. Know seeing the

34:16

same level of zoc said he said which has been

34:18

a huge part of his success you know and though

34:21

he was awesome last year as as he entered his

34:23

early thirties so in oil on the you was the

34:25

sewing eight thing. You. Have to wonder

34:27

you know how much of the injury was there

34:29

at of it in Harbors? Not back. Why? So I

34:31

come back to play for this and even the

34:33

T maybe said you know don't we don't want

34:35

to get your further injured or he actually was hurt

34:38

a new. have to worry about that at some point

34:40

being being an issue. So. Yeah,

34:42

I'm It's all agree with In and I do

34:44

think that this is one of those situations where.

34:47

The. Name was the case and wait. And

34:49

you may get disappointed with the production. It's

34:52

it's. almost like every thing that concerns me

34:54

about Digs is slightly more concerning Brown One,

34:56

except for this bag that Allen didn't have

34:58

the fall off last year, but he's older,

35:00

he's go. I don't think the Bears pass

35:02

all fence is going to be as effective

35:05

or efficient as the Texans pass. All since

35:07

this year Jimmy mentioned that the weather as

35:09

these digs gets to play in a dome

35:11

in the South. Balance

35:13

gonna play some terrible weather games and I

35:15

think the Dj more and room or do

35:17

they are probably better than Nico Cohen's and

35:20

take Dell as a duo so he eyes.

35:22

Some it's a it's a bad situation I think

35:24

and I and I and I would expect that

35:26

there are fewer residence. For. The rookie

35:28

Williams than there is for a second year

35:30

drought. Would. You doesn't

35:32

have Keenan, Allen, or Jordan Addison. Special.

35:38

Hopkinson Her. Right

35:42

now, I've got Allen just ahead of them. Have.

35:45

Our guy that he took just before.

35:47

Keenan. Allen one of our dress Cortland sudden. I

35:52

got our son. Ah,

35:54

as. For.

35:56

Now son. As

35:58

we get the Heath's were school. Ah,

36:02

but I do. This is Go and

36:04

Millie neighbors what's eyes. I have no

36:06

idea what his Atp is gonna be.

36:08

Let's see where he's been going when.

36:10

Round five in one draft of ours

36:13

went in round six in one draft

36:15

of our to me. And

36:17

in the E S P N draft he

36:19

went in. he went forty ninth overall that

36:21

in a desert they do ten teams they

36:23

are. He started to agree to the of.

36:27

Ah, I'm well. it's really okay as

36:29

wide receiver. Twenty four? Yes, too early.

36:31

He went ahead of. The.

36:33

Flowers: Chris God When Tank

36:35

Dell. Yeah.

36:38

I these more like wide receiver. thirty? Where do you have

36:40

him? Call

36:42

Wide Receiver or Forty Three Foods

36:44

A Be an advocate for rookie

36:47

wide receivers. If they come in

36:49

and get twenty five percent of

36:51

the teams receiving production, they are

36:53

awesome! Next. Really, really

36:56

awesome. And you look at the New

36:58

York Giants over the last four years.

37:00

Twenty eight hundred and eighty six yards

37:02

and fifteen touchdowns. Thirty one, fifty seven,

37:04

and seventeen. Thirty One Ninety

37:06

Six. And Fifteen. Thirty. Twenty

37:08

Six And Twelve. Twenty. Five

37:11

percent of that if he's just every bit

37:13

as awesome as we think he is, is

37:15

somewhere between seven and eight hundred yards receiving

37:17

and about for were touched us. So.

37:20

What it is, Okay, what it does.

37:22

Just for comparison sakes, I'm just gonna

37:24

look as I'm A.you know, stop your

37:26

head. Just Jefferson's rookie season was twenty

37:28

Twenty. Ah,

37:30

he had fourteen hundred

37:32

yards. At. Of for twos

37:34

fourteen hundred of I have four to

37:37

six five he had thirty three, thirty

37:39

two point eight percent. Of

37:41

their production. So. Again,

37:44

The. Neighbors. Can do better

37:46

than. Twenty. Five Just observers, this is

37:48

a defensive Twenty can do better than seventy five

37:50

percent. But. Here's the thing. I

37:52

don't think I don't think we should sit here and say

37:54

he can't do better. Than Just and Jeffers. I

37:57

think there's a pass a now he can

37:59

hit zero cents. Do that. But.

38:02

I think he could get like a level

38:04

twelve hundred yards. Man,

38:12

either see the super any might be

38:15

a user super duper store if you

38:17

come in as a rookie in this

38:19

all sense with this quarterback and produce

38:21

eleven hundred yards that is that. The

38:24

tip top outlier ceiling case, and I

38:26

think even a nutcase. It's probably a

38:28

low touchdown total and he's around our

38:31

be wide receiver twenty five or something.

38:33

I am hopeful for neighbors

38:36

to be like nine fifty,

38:38

two thousand yards know and

38:40

six of stuff. That

38:43

I want More than that. obvious you want

38:45

more than that? Yeah, I think that there's

38:47

there's There's two sides. This is obvious. Decide

38:49

that he's is coming out on which history

38:51

tells us that. It's difficult for Daniel don't

38:53

to support this type of receiver at a

38:55

level that I think people want. Dahl.

38:58

So the other side of it, as you've never had our

39:00

of, there's only three of him with a receiver like this.

39:03

That. Some say that, but it is never

39:05

support a receiver. He's had this type

39:07

of receiver and ninety be fully retired.

39:09

Can he go at a common office

39:11

or novelist and footage? It's completely ended

39:13

his career that what happened with neighbors.

39:16

In. A lot if he's every bit as good as

39:19

he can be. He's. Going to Elevate

39:21

Dangled Zones or Trulock In or as an eerie

39:23

that bring that up as if if Jones is

39:25

not ready to go. Week one and Law comes

39:27

on plays well. Maybe. He gets the

39:29

job for you. I thought of another bargain for Superfly

39:31

sleeves. you know, Drew lox be on your last pic.

39:34

Also, And

39:36

so there there's. In.

39:38

O'brien tables coming from a situation where it

39:40

that's what changed. His quarterback was Josh Allen

39:42

was good on the cusp of becoming greats

39:44

and got the findings daniels or this terrible

39:47

to make him good you have only neighbors

39:49

come in. Hopefully that's what happens and changes

39:51

the tenor of his career and and maybe

39:53

what the Giants are looking at. There's.

39:55

Also the potential of he's just good. And

39:58

Jones still sucks. Oh

40:00

you after. You. Know. A

40:03

I think if you're it, you said it best on

40:05

honor on a show A couple weeks go out of

40:07

about when to drastically neighbors when you feel like adaptively

40:09

neighbors it when we get some point in the receiver

40:11

rankings where it just feels like there's a drop off.

40:14

And. He's a little bit before

40:16

that few i think you know and so that that that

40:18

feels like as that part. To take a chance on a

40:21

player like this, he should be considered a number three receiver

40:23

taking him and. What? He said

40:25

he has can just forty ninth overall. Yeah on

40:27

and as sensing the great so. Way.

40:30

Too soon. You know

40:32

if you're talking about and around five

40:34

Round six a around five take was

40:36

Jacob gives of not mistaken he sends

40:38

a gravitate towards your the younger rookies

40:40

are the minorities. Round.

40:42

Six I know was you know and that's I think

40:44

and okay spot for him in our i would prefer

40:47

I'm around seven around six I think is okay depending

40:49

on how many receivers.the board that. And

40:51

Eli Manning had a sixty nine point

40:54

four passer rating in two thousand and

40:56

thirteen. And. Then Odell Beckham

40:58

came in. He. Missed the

41:00

first four games of the year and

41:02

he has thirteen hundred yards and twelve

41:04

touchdowns and twelve games. And Eli Manning

41:06

when from a guy who are like

41:08

book dawn setting and ninety two point

41:11

one passer rating two thousand and fourteen.

41:13

Mike Evans was the number thirteen receiver

41:15

as a rookie in fifteen games is

41:17

quarterbacks are Mike Glennon and Josh Mccown.

41:19

They. Threw for three thousand six hundred and twenty three

41:21

yards and twenty one touchdowns with in sixteen games and

41:24

sixteen games a twenty five hundred more yards more than

41:26

the in your Joan. What do you think Where the

41:28

Giants have thrown for the last force? What do you

41:30

think they would have thrown forbidden that Mike Evans that

41:32

That's my hope I win years like can dick Indiana

41:35

Jones gets a thirty five hundred yards as early as

41:37

crazy that seem I think you get up at at

41:39

the to find the team. Can I get that I

41:41

would feel better but neighbors of the like current Eli

41:43

Manning was the quarterbacks is that would you feel better

41:46

about of zoo offer the quarterback. Maybe.

41:49

I would and prop probably would me. I'm

41:51

not significantly the with because it's not just

41:54

the joneses terrible, the passer, it's that dress

41:56

he's gonna take off and run a bunch

41:58

to of and that it's. Like the

42:00

table is decided it in your john displaying the best

42:02

way to have a chance to win as to throw

42:04

as little as possible. Yeah. Nothing's

42:07

the rice by. I was just like

42:09

to see if Elsa Barkley that see

42:11

them to when they were say that

42:13

it was neighbors becomes the focal point

42:15

of the office just like There and

42:17

War last year. that was awesome. Okay

42:19

let's go to a one racing against

42:21

our privacy I was at that game

42:23

they would suit or terrific abroad. Bowers

42:25

is your last bus tear this history

42:27

a say about while or other way

42:30

that. Names. Like. Made.

42:32

This is our cutting you. Oh really, how was

42:34

that? Was an hour that wasn't from anybody? thinks

42:36

he knows. report. Will

42:38

not. That. It is is believed

42:41

neighbors happy to be on the Giants. Not.

42:44

Really not know. His.

42:47

Supporters talking bad about the jerseys

42:49

yesterday. I look.

42:52

Every with something bad about the jerseys assign

42:54

a to sign a lakes you know be

42:56

one of the to be one of the

42:58

to be one of the fans basically. Thankfully

43:01

we know that Ryan tables really patients with

43:03

first round rookie wide receivers that aren't necessarily

43:05

happy. I also a Broad Powers

43:07

Christmas. Ah

43:10

of twenty, right? Which.

43:12

That now he did not. Ah, night. No

43:15

No. He was a year after

43:17

year after the second your to i'm. This

43:21

is not an anti brought Bauer stake.

43:23

It's in the entire situation. Take I,

43:25

I think a. We. Seem to

43:27

seasons don't do the atoms in Las Vegas

43:29

and he has three hundred and fifty five

43:31

targets in those two seasons Down the stretch

43:34

they went run heavy and why he adams

43:36

is still averaging like twelve targets for game.

43:39

I. Think they might throw it twenty eight. To.

43:41

Thirty times a game. And

43:43

thirty five percent of those are going to go to

43:45

want a items. That makes it

43:47

really difficult for Bowers to be a

43:49

starting fantasy. Tight end. The. Setting

43:52

is probably not going to have a lot of passing touchdowns.

43:55

I'm guessing you would not have taken him ahead of the

43:57

evan Engram as he went in one of the or recent rise

43:59

certain. They would not take him head of any group. Or.

44:04

Even a joke of. I.

44:06

Would rather have no joke. Tic.

44:09

Ferguson. I do their first.

44:12

Darin, Waller. Middle

44:15

of The except for artists. David.

44:19

You ever get excited? addressed Rock Bowers. Know

44:22

guess ah this I guess

44:25

And gay. Or

44:27

one other thing that I'm I'm series by on

44:29

disagree with what he said about the past volume.

44:33

I said. The. The divide

44:35

and numbers alone and flight at twenty

44:37

one target game in that for game

44:39

stretch so I don't know that's going

44:42

to be the norm it over that

44:44

time. but can he leapfrog Jacoby Myers

44:46

to be the second target getter? In

44:49

this office. And I would

44:51

not surprise me. Marriage: Gabi Myers was

44:53

brought to this team with Josh Mcdaniels.

44:56

And. While he did play well as your even

44:58

after the chains, This. Is now

45:00

the first draft pick in the first round

45:02

of this new regime, And so how much

45:04

will they feature? Bowers. Maybe.

45:06

Even to the extent of hurting Devout

45:08

as was, I think we'll have to

45:10

be the case if Bowers is good.

45:13

And so I think if you're drafting

45:15

Bowers and and the three tight ends

45:17

you mentioned mold mold, this cat will

45:19

discuss bar.their moments but Ferguson and a

45:21

joke of. Ferguson if

45:23

you buy into his. Upsides:

45:26

aging or his ceiling changing than I think. It's easy

45:28

to go Ferguson. If you're buying into what the joker

45:30

did last year over the course, the season and helping

45:32

us a be the norm with this on Watson then

45:34

that's fine by into but those are the that the

45:36

too tight ends I think where he comes into play

45:39

you know he's in be data of anger mission project

45:41

at It Kills and be a job that had pets

45:43

on. This was not the most ideal any spot for

45:45

him. But. It's. It's

45:47

not a bad idea if you are drafting Bowers to

45:50

take him with a Ferguson to take him with a

45:52

joke with the Para maybe with stockings and just to

45:54

see if you know the beginning part of the season.

45:56

Vargas up to get started. Hackathons back. Know that that

45:58

not my ideal situation too. Head out

46:00

to tie it together to the could be awful for

46:02

both them, but you get a point. You know you're

46:04

You're taking a chance on. You. Know hopefully

46:06

somebody that can help you have powers the struggled.

46:09

So I also think that people to not look

46:11

at what happened last year and say he's an

46:13

exam Laporta rookie tight ends don't usually do that.

46:16

And so. You. Know if you

46:18

are looking for a rookie tide and com. Look.

46:21

At what Duncan K. did. Look.

46:23

At what? maybe the combination of Musgrave and

46:25

Tyler crafted? You know that's kind of what

46:27

Rookie Tide and send to give you in

46:29

a Laporta was it? Know? A

46:32

of Lucas in nature in over

46:34

how he performance. Ah, I'm. So.

46:37

To draft him as an honor ones I could be a huge

46:39

mistake. This crossword. Hey. Speaking

46:41

of same report on. Let's. Go

46:43

to our audience bus! And.

46:46

Member Man versus let's give us one

46:48

last week tweet or whenever we read

46:50

tweets as I said Monday sorry he

46:52

said us and the board and he

46:54

doesn't touch down the porno won't be

46:56

a bus prefers a D P, he

46:58

will be more Gibbs, more Jamiel more

47:00

demands. I think the could have just

47:02

by but their full names. can you

47:04

really get all those touchdowns in the

47:06

green zone? So Sam a Porta a

47:08

bus candidate. Vs

47:12

think I mean they're they're the potential for

47:14

him to be a bust in Other Also

47:16

is Everly with sixty seven targets that are

47:18

vacated from Josh Reynolds and so where do

47:20

those go to those go to day Mr.

47:22

Williams was be the hope in the partners

47:25

targets here said same does. Don't.

47:27

Do those get? sort of? You know, trickle

47:29

down to everybody. And it's it's. more from

47:31

a porta. You

47:34

know he is easy easily. the second guy in

47:36

this off and throat asked them point behind my

47:38

almost amon ra same from and this often stayed

47:40

the same. You know the fact that they are

47:42

able to in a keep. Coordinator. Keep

47:45

quarterback and. You're. Awfully don't know what

47:47

we saw last year. I mean look, I

47:49

don't think reporters. A bust. i

47:51

think it's going to be frustrating for

47:54

someone who takes the and then watches

47:56

potential jobs kelsey trade me bride or

47:58

mark andrews outscore him and if by

48:00

a lot, then you're going to be frustrated. And

48:02

that's the – I like La Porta

48:04

in round three. And I think

48:06

in full PPR, like even – maybe

48:09

even slightly early round three, but I

48:11

don't really think there should be hardly

48:13

any separation at all between La Porta,

48:15

McBride, Andrews, and Kelsey. And

48:17

so I think we're going to see at least one of

48:19

those guys go around later than him, and I'm going to

48:21

rather take those guys in round four than him in round

48:23

three. I got some votes for

48:25

Drake London as a bust. And

48:28

I mean we've spoken about this so much. I

48:30

feel like I'm coming off a little bit too negative on Drake London.

48:33

I actually don't really think he's going

48:35

to be a bust. I think I'm questioning his upside a little

48:37

bit. It's weird because Drake

48:39

London could – I think going to

48:42

get pushed up so much by a draft position. He

48:44

could almost be a breakout and a bust in the

48:46

same season. Like he's going to be

48:48

drafted much, much higher than anything he's ever done. And I think

48:50

he's going to be better than he's ever been, but I don't

48:52

think I'm going to be able to draft any of them. Well,

48:56

when would you draft Drake London? Round

48:58

four. Oh, no, you're not going to be able to. Sorry.

49:01

I know. Jamie,

49:04

are you round two on London? Yeah,

49:06

and Heath is right. He could have an

49:08

amazing season, but be outperformed by a couple

49:11

of guys that may go behind him. Jaylen

49:13

Waddle can easily bounce back and perform better

49:15

than him, DeMonte Smith, two guys

49:17

that have done it, T. Higgins, guys that

49:19

are in fairly good

49:21

situations as well, if not great situations. That's

49:25

the risk you run when you're taking a player

49:27

like this. But the hope is

49:29

that his pedigree, his now

49:31

quarterback upgrade system upgrade, all those

49:34

things, lend itself to him

49:36

producing at the

49:39

opportunity that's available to him, which could

49:41

be top ten fantasy option. I

49:43

think he kind of reminds me of Michael Pittman. I still

49:47

don't know how high the ceiling is for either

49:50

of those players, London and Pittman. I'm

49:53

not sure we've really seen what they're capable of. I

49:55

think we'll see that this year from London. We'll

49:58

find out. But

50:00

I just think there's good. He's so clearly the

50:02

number one guy. I can't see pits out targeting

50:04

him. And they just don't have

50:06

that much target competition. I feel like there's a pretty high

50:08

floor for those guys. I

50:11

feel like there's a high floor for – there

50:13

was a high floor for Pitman last year because of

50:15

Minshu. I don't know about that this year. In fact,

50:17

I would nominate him as a bust. Yeah,

50:20

I was just thinking the same thing. He has that potential. He's

50:22

going to be dropped in the same range. And the Brown 2

50:25

is most likely where Pitman's ADP will

50:27

settle in PPR. But

50:29

as we saw last year, Touchdown still escaped

50:32

him in his offense. And now

50:34

they added another receiver. Josh Downs should continue

50:36

to improve. And you're getting a

50:38

full season of Jonathan Taylor. So full season of

50:40

Richardson, full season of Taylor. How much running will

50:42

that offense have to take away from Pitman? So

50:44

yeah, it's not a bad call. Okay.

50:47

It's a half-hearted call anyway. But Andy

50:49

says, I'm worried about a Tyreek Hill

50:51

drop-off in the fantasy playoffs. I

50:54

think kind of overall, he said

50:56

more targets for Waddle, Malik Washington,

50:58

OBJ. But then the fantasy playoffs

51:00

are at Houston, home against

51:02

San Francisco, and at Cleveland, which

51:05

is cold weather game and not necessarily

51:07

good. But that's kind of

51:09

an interesting call. And we were worried about

51:11

that last year with Tyreek Hill because his

51:13

fantasy playoffs were the Jets, Cowboys, and Ravens.

51:16

He missed the Jets game. He scored

51:18

19 points against the Cowboys, which

51:20

was good, but not amazing, below his season

51:22

average. He scored 13.6 at

51:25

Baltimore, six catches for 76 yards.

51:28

So, Heath, what do you think? A

51:30

playoff bust, Tyreek Hill? I'm

51:32

not as worried about it this year as

51:34

I was last year. That's only one bad

51:37

weather game versus, I think, two. And

51:40

I would expect the game – like,

51:42

at home against San Francisco could very

51:44

easily be a shootout. At Houston could

51:46

very easily be a shootout. So,

51:49

not as worried. There's actually only one bad weather

51:51

game last year, too, but you had that Jets

51:53

matchup at home, which was super

51:55

tough. But

51:57

they only had – they had to add Baltimore last year, and we got to –

52:00

If he gets you there doing what he's capable of doing,

52:02

you're not going to be upset about him. Yeah.

52:05

Mike says, Marvin Harrison's ADP doesn't leave

52:07

much room for profit. Huge talent will

52:10

eventually be great if there's a learning

52:12

curve he won't pay off. Yeah, it's

52:15

the same thing like Drake London. I mean, you're asking

52:17

a player to do something he's never done before. Step

52:19

into the NFL and be a superstar. And yes, there's

52:21

– everything is right there for it.

52:24

Number one guy in an offense expected

52:27

to be the number one guy in the offense. Not

52:29

a lot of competition for targets. We can sit

52:31

here and say McBride, yes, that's an obvious one.

52:33

But Michael Wilson and Zay Jones, are they going

52:35

to hurt Marvin Harrison's

52:38

upside? They might, but those

52:40

aren't exactly scary options right now. So

52:43

is drafting him early around too

52:45

high? Probably so. But if you

52:47

want him, that's where you have to get him at

52:49

this point. It don't say probably so. You

52:52

don't believe that, do you? That

52:54

is too soon? Yeah. No,

52:57

I'm drafting him there. But I mean

52:59

again, history tells us – you went

53:02

through and looked at a bunch of rookie wide receivers.

53:04

I know you're looking at ones with bad quarterbacks, but

53:06

there's not a lot of guys that do what we're

53:08

asking him to do. We've had three in the past

53:10

four years, Jefferson, Chase, and

53:13

Puca. I think we're

53:15

seeing it's pretty possible. That's

53:17

my – but you're right. I mean we don't

53:19

get a lot of rookie wide receivers that do that. But

53:22

you don't feel like that's too early. And I

53:24

also don't think you believe that his

53:26

ADP doesn't leave much room for profit because he's going

53:28

– let's say he goes 15th overall. I

53:32

think you both probably feel like Harrison could perform

53:34

like a top five slower. Yes,

53:37

I don't think he's going to go 15th overall. I think

53:39

we're going to see him closer to 20 just because

53:42

when the quarterbacks start to get in

53:44

there from what ADP will tell us, our

53:46

Japs, he's going to go in the top

53:49

15. I will say

53:51

he's going to have probably a wide range.

53:53

I think probably CBS ADPs late round two. I

53:55

know the very first glimpse that I saw

53:57

of NFC high stakes ADP, he was 12th. I

54:01

think you'll have a first round ADP in

54:03

high stakes leagues and probably late second round

54:06

in leagues where quarterbacks gets drafted earlier Andre

54:09

says the Dante Adams will be a bus. He's

54:11

an aging wide receiver with poor quarterback play. I

54:15

Agree if he has around to ADP. He

54:17

was also an aging wide receiver with poor

54:19

quarterback play last year What

54:21

do you think he was a bus last year? I? Don't

54:25

think was he where did he finish? He

54:28

finished 11th or 12th, but per game. I think

54:30

he was more like 18 or 16. Let me

54:32

I'll tell you in a moment Okay, the Vontae

54:34

Adams was

54:38

Yes, he was 14th and non

54:40

PPR 10th and PPR and per game. He was

54:43

19th and non PPR 17th and PPR. I Don't

54:47

it's probably a slight bust. Yeah All

54:50

right. Last but he's not gonna be drafted as high as he was last year

54:52

probably Gutcheck says Tony Pollard.

54:54

It will be a bust. I feel like there's

54:56

a good chance. He'll be the 1b instead of

54:58

the 1a. I Guess

55:02

just depends on when you're drafting him We

55:04

haven't seen him get drafted and arranged right

55:06

now that I think is bust worthy last

55:08

year certainly was Yes,

55:14

it's kind of weird It's is there a scenario

55:16

where they both end up being Solid draft picks

55:18

and I look at the last draft we did

55:20

and Pollard went in round seven and Spears went

55:23

in round eight I'm like, yeah, I guess

55:25

that could work. Oh Yeah,

55:27

they could be not even Warren. I was gonna say what was

55:29

the finish for the Steelers guys? Okay,

55:33

if you need a second you want full PPR

55:35

half PPR, okay

55:38

per game Per

55:41

game actually Warren was better than Najee Warren was RB

55:43

29 per game. Najee was RB 31 per game Not

55:49

as good as I remember Yeah,

55:51

not great They had

55:53

13 rushing and two

55:56

receiving touchdowns combined. So 15 total

55:59

touchdowns them. It's

56:01

not great. That's probably like, but they're right

56:03

around RB30. I'm guessing that's where they

56:06

were drafted in Pollard and

56:08

Spears in

56:11

this draft. Anyway, if you

56:13

guys want to talk for five seconds, I can figure

56:15

that. I think, I expect there to be a bigger

56:18

gap between Pollard and Spears. I

56:20

think I may have downgraded Spears more with

56:22

the Pollard signing than other people did, but

56:24

I expect Pollard to be, to have

56:28

at least like a 60-40 split edge as opposed

56:30

to what we saw for Najee and Warren Lester.

56:34

Pollard was RB25 and Spears was RB33 in

56:36

this draft. All

56:40

right, thank you guys. We'll talk to you

56:42

with another episode tomorrow. We'll talk to you

56:44

then for Heath and Jamie and Thomas. I'm

56:47

Adam. See you tomorrow. You

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