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My name is
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Daniel Top. What's
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going on? What's going on? My friend Mike
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Clay. How you doing buddy? I'm pretty good although
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I was just looking at these tins that
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are right out in front of us here.
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And I just want anyone to know like
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if you're watching on the video that right
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before we went on, Daniel reorganize these to
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put them in his fantasy rankings order for
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the year. So Justin Herbert QB one. Wow.
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Yeah. Jalen hurts all the way
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down at six. So we got hurt for those
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without video. We got Herbert first, my home second
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burrow third, Trevor Lawrence fourth, bold take their back
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press Dak Prescott. Just yeah, that's about right. Yeah.
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That's press. Jalen hurts with the disrespect down at
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six. So I personally thought that was a bold
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statement by you to put them in that order.
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But sure. And Josh Allen, not even in the
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top six. Well, you know, wow. I feel about
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Josh Allen. That's true. It's disappointing. It's disappointing that
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we don't have a Josh Allen tin. That's what
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I would say. Yeah, it is disappointing. We need
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to get one. I got these because I,
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uh, cards came in all of these. Oh, so like
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your card guy, I am a card guy. So they
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all came in that. So can you come over to
1:11
my house? I have bought my dad's cards, my cards.
1:13
Can you go through them all and like value them
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for me? I'll give you 10% of the profits. That
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would be so much fun. Let's do it. Don't
1:21
even do it. Uh, summer, summer activity. I
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am, I am very into coming over and
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diving through your, you and your father's card.
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I have a lot of Mark Martins. I
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have a lot of Chad's cars. I have
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a lot of Chad Pennington's, uh,
1:34
Andrew Jones. Like they gotta be worth $5. Yeah.
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It's total. Yeah. Similar
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to the field Yates card that we had. They've
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been one digits. Yeah. Very close to that. Uh,
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Hey, you and I are hanging out today. Yeah,
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we sure are. We sure are. The draft is
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coming. It is close. Yes. Yes. And
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we're going to be doing a little bit of boondoggling as she does
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field, doing a bunch of draft stuff. You've been vacationing
1:55
for a month or so now. I don't, I haven't
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even seen that draft. That must be easy. It
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looks like it. That's easy. There's how many guys
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get picked? We know most of them. I mean
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it seems easy He's already there's no way study
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on long snappers and full backs and honors
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Izzy. Do you have long snapper projections? I do
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not look that's the only position that's not a
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real position to me Like look
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every team there's no way to measure how good
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they are and every team is one Yeah,
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that's all you need to know. I don't need to keep track
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of those. I do but punters returners
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all returns is tricky I've been working on that
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because now with the new rules We're gonna have
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maybe three times as many work kick returns Yep,
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so last year was hard I even identify returners
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because a lot of teams just never returned it
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and now it's gonna be a lot different It's
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gonna be quite different. We could have multiple guys
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returning a lot. So it's gonna be interesting Yeah,
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we got a lot of stuff in on store
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in tap on tap. There it is. There you
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go. They're all metaphors Yeah, a lot of stuff
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that we are ready for today We're gonna be
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filling a lot of voids for some teams based
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on what the draft is looking like Mike Clay
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But first let's get things kicked off with
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the opening drive. Hey, what
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show is this? Ff now to
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do to do we need a sound effect. Yeah, we
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do need a sound effect for FF now We
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don't eclipse the last time before the last
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time I saw you yeah, we did what
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was your What's your level
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of interest like one to ten like one? Yeah,
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it's fine ten is like wow. I need to
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travel to see this thing. It was a two
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probably. Yeah me too I was busy. I was
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busy shopping. It's been a Top
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it for another day, but it's been a couple
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weeks. Yeah, but yeah So doing all I was
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out shopping with the girls and
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you know, it was it was cloudy Did you
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know that it got dark out a little darker,
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but it just looked like a cloudy day So
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there wasn't really much to see yeah from that
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perspective. But yeah, it's uh, we actually is what
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it is I actually saw on the internet. This
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is probably my favorite. I saw a footage
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of the eclipse We
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have it from a Twitter user. That's right. I saw this
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I retweeted this so if you miss it Yeah, we have
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it. It's cool. If you are watching our YouTube stream here
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to see right here for the owner real video.
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And if you watch right
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there, there goes the eclipse
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across. For those
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that are just listening to the podcast and don't
4:10
get to see it, it's a fantasy football trophy
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and just had it slowly come into frame and
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cover up the sun. So then he sent it
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to his league so that you can know that.
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Yep, that's the eclipse guys. I
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just like if I receive this
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and I thought, okay, my buddy just saw the eclipse.
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I wanted to send it. I would watch it and
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then saw that I would be so mad. I would
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be mad. I would also chuckle. So good though. Yeah,
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I love that. I love that. That
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was my favorite footage of the
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eclipse for sure. I agree with you. Shout out to
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Mitch. Well done. imagine
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like 300 BC, right? You're
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out there Mike Clay, you're doing your fantasy
4:48
pocket talk. I don't know if you're big
4:50
into those ball games. Would I be chiseling
4:52
fantasy projections? Potentially. Yeah. And
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then all of a sudden, the world just
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goes dark. And you're like,
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what is happening? What is that giant thing blocking
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the sun? I can only imagine. Like nowadays we
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talk about it. It's fun. Everyone
5:06
knows that it's happening. But like, if you would just, if for two seconds, put
5:08
yourself in the brain of someone that like doesn't have the
5:10
knowledge that we do. I think about that all the time.
5:12
I mean, just trying to eat things
5:14
or how things were first cooked or... Who was like,
5:16
I want it. That's the thing that I should try
5:18
to eat. Yeah. Like I just came
5:21
out of that chicken. I'm going to eat that thing. Like, who
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thinks... Like stuff
5:25
like that. I think about that all the time. All
5:27
the time. It's bizarre. Oh my gosh.
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All right. Really quickly, wrap this up. Before
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we get into our football talk, I do want to say I
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he knows what he's doing so I, I, I,
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I, I do We all know each other, we
6:04
actually get together and Sundays we we talk and
6:06
watch the races. Ah in silence is knows I
6:08
dunno like we're we're an M One company when
6:10
it's not as are so. Last
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thing before we get into our big topic
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ceiling the void. Four teams that have lost
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players are just need to be able to
6:19
film a whole and their roster it has
6:21
been really tried. Saga this not of on
6:23
top of this is how it is not
6:25
yet coming up as a fun topic is
6:27
t As you say about Irises about. Ah
6:30
we have the receiver A situation that is
6:32
going on like right now. View
6:34
what we know. Just. Recently to him since and.
6:37
Find a way to figure out how all of
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this is gonna seek out what it's gonna look
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like for us and a fantasies the fantasy community
6:44
right now. but that doesn't in a. Very.
6:47
Thankfully nobody was hurt from the situation and under
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serious way. I heard there a couple of mine
6:51
injuries but I think we're all kind of waiting
6:53
to see what is this gonna mean from a
6:55
fantasy perspective with rishi rice. And we're all kind
6:57
of waiting to see what that's gonna happen and
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how it's gonna look like. Yeah, so if you
7:02
miss it. I was March Thirtieth or Dallas Highway.
7:04
There was a and traffic incident said in a
7:06
reportedly. Race: Is three racing. the
7:08
a couple cars got collided, die and
7:10
like to said minor injuries. Only a
7:12
lot of charges here which looks. Are
7:15
concerning for hims counts of collated involving bodily
7:17
injury, mechanically involving serious bodily injury, one count
7:19
of aggravated assaults according to the war, a
7:22
total of warrants or or charges excuse me
7:24
said all felonies, a scene and all the
7:26
stuff Right right? So yeah, so why are
7:28
you know we'll see how this plays out
7:31
in the legal process. I did reach out
7:33
to a friend of mine in the industry
7:35
might follow him on twitter and I'm I'll
7:37
grab his hand on a minute which I
7:40
did not know doukas and prepare very well
7:42
but I use Defense attorney to Davenport as
7:44
you just. suit search for him i now on
7:46
exit the were like does a great job at
7:48
the stuff over the years he again he's a
7:50
defense attorney so hill kind of and a fantasy
7:52
football fans we gotta roll through it ah what
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the charges are and just kind of gives an
7:56
idea what to expect what he thinks the lead
7:58
will do in terms of suspension, that kind
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of thing. And believe it or not,
8:03
he's projecting one to two games
8:05
right now. He says he doesn't necessarily think
8:07
it'll go as high as four. A
8:09
lot could change. I know it's a lot of
8:11
felonies that could always change going forward and there's
8:13
more information that could come out and change his
8:16
assessment or his projection here. But I
8:18
just want to say that because I think there's people out there and I've seen it
8:20
in a league you and I are in. Rice
8:22
is already getting traded in leagues back and forth. Don't, you know,
8:24
just let this play out. If I if you have him on
8:27
your dynasty roster, let this play out. You don't have to go
8:29
out and just trade him for a fourth round pick just to
8:31
get something back. Right? Just hold tight for now. Okay.
8:34
Good to know. Let's dive into Mike. We got
8:36
a bunch of voids that we are going to
8:38
fill. Filling the void with Mike
8:40
Clay. It's gonna be a new segment that we have.
8:42
Is that right? We're gonna do that year-round. We're gonna
8:45
do that. Probably at least once a year. I don't
8:47
know. We could figure out a clever way. We're working
8:49
on some fun segments for the season. So maybe we
8:51
can do something like that.
8:53
But this is cool. So we'll make
8:55
some predictions on obvious holes
8:58
and lineups relative to fantasy. Yeah. And
9:00
God, I'll let you take it. I've
9:03
got Mike Clay's projections in front of me. I
9:05
think this is a very cool thing. You tweet
9:07
this out every single year. Right now we're in
9:09
the offseason. You always have a big updated projection
9:11
model of the entire roster for everybody's team. So
9:14
definitely go check that out. Mike, you have a, I think
9:16
you have a pinned right now. It's your pinned tweet. Yeah,
9:18
my pinned tweet. You can find it on espn.com as well.
9:20
It's just a massive PDF. I don't even know how many
9:23
pages it is now. Like 90 or 80 something. 80 pages.
9:25
Yeah. So all the depth charts,
9:27
rosters, projections for every team, projected
9:29
leaderboards, team standings. It's awesome. Strength
9:32
of schedule. I do
9:34
have the schedule for next season in there out
9:36
of order. We don't know the order of game
9:38
chat, but we have the opponents. That's all in
9:40
there. So it's a lot of fun to do.
9:42
I keep it updated year-round. So I just decided
9:44
I'll clean it up and share it with everyone.
9:46
So, but yeah, I mean, you look through those
9:49
teams specifically at the four key fantasy positions, quarterback,
9:51
running back receiver, and tight end. And
9:54
you're going to look at that and you're going to
9:56
say, wow, like there's a major void there. This team
9:58
has to address this position. They're not going in. to
10:00
week one with Rico Daudel
10:02
as they're running back in Dallas, for example. And so we
10:04
picked out the ones that really stand out and we're gonna
10:06
kind of talk about what the circumstances
10:09
are and how they might address those positions in the
10:11
draft with some predictions from both of us. I love
10:13
that. So you get the most rate. Yeah, I think
10:15
you probably will get more. I don't know, I was
10:17
on a bullet I feel like, so we'll see. Let's
10:20
start this off though. Arizona Cardinals have the fourth
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overall pick in the first round this year. Oh
10:24
by the way, we should mention this. We skipped
10:26
the first three picks because it should be quarterback,
10:29
quarterback, quarterback. We know Caleb Williams almost definitely going
10:31
to Chicago, New England and Washington are the third
10:34
and second pick in that order. Probably gonna take
10:36
a quarterback. Could they, could New England trade down?
10:39
Maybe, but I think they probably, we're gonna
10:41
assume for the sake
10:43
of this exercise that it goes Caleb
10:45
Williams and then either Jaden Daniels or
10:47
Drake May, second and third. So we'll
10:49
go to pick four. So they're gonna
10:51
wait for the Arizona Cardinals. Arizona Cardinals
10:53
lost Rondell Moore. They lost Hollywood
10:56
Brown. Right now, Mike, I'm looking at this projection
10:58
sheet that you have. You got Michael Wilson and
11:01
Greg Dorch as the top two wide
11:03
receivers. Obviously Trey McBride, the standout young
11:05
tight end there as a pass catcher.
11:07
But it seems obvious to me and it
11:10
seems obvious to Mel Kiper Jr. and Phil
11:12
Yates, you look at their latest mock drafts,
11:14
they have both Marvin Harrison Jr. go into
11:17
the Cardinals. Which direction are you
11:19
gonna go though at the fourth spot? Yeah, so
11:21
I agree. I believe their first pick in the
11:23
top half of the first round. If not, if
11:25
they stay put at four, it will
11:27
be wide receiver wherever they go. So my
11:30
prediction is they trade down. They seem like they're
11:32
open to trading down and that could be because
11:34
they don't feel higher since the number one receiver
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or because there's maybe three, four, maybe ten guys
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they like a lot because it's a very deep
11:41
wide receiver class. So I think they listen to
11:44
some of these teams like Minnesota who
11:46
maybe once JJ McCarthy. So that's my
11:48
prediction. I think Arizona trades down with
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Minnesota. The Vikings jump up to four.
11:52
Wow. McCarthy will get to that later.
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But I think that if that
11:56
moves Arizona down to 11, There's
11:59
still a chance that they Roma Dunes, so
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that's what I have. them are predicted for
12:03
here, you know, good size six, three to
12:05
twelve. Maybe not quite the prospect of Marvin
12:07
Harrison, but maybe they like him to be
12:09
very similar in if you add another like
12:12
a feature first round pick from Minnesota, so
12:14
for another, you know something like that. Ah,
12:16
that might be worthwhile. So like him a
12:18
lot and he would step in a be
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a great fantasy landing spot for any of
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these top three. There's like a lot of
12:24
good receivers, but the top three really stand
12:27
out. Says I have a Levin. Overall a
12:29
Doomsday goes to Arizona. So I get what
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you do in their i understand the trade. The
12:33
more pics I understand the space. The gap between
12:35
Marvin Harrison Jr. and And Dunes A may be
12:37
small. I don't know how the Cardinals feel about
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it. That's the second organizational thing, right? Feel
12:42
like I'm in this. don't over think it's face
12:44
like Marvin Harrison Jr is. The looks to be
12:46
the cream of the crop here. He is one
12:49
of the best hours wide receivers to come out
12:51
in the last ten years. and that's the thing
12:53
that we've talked about. to be able to pair
12:55
him with a guy like Tree Mcbride and to
12:57
give Tyler Murray her a legit through wide receiver
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one. I.
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Realized that aroma do they can do. You.
13:04
Playing with fire by trying to drop all the
13:06
way back to eleven might stir up a think
13:08
about it, do you go have a dude? or
13:11
it's even Nfl roster A Now your Dm do
13:13
take. Admit what Minnesota's to
13:15
for Sanders this year as yeah. Okay,
13:17
so do you take Harrison. says.
13:19
Harrison or do you take a Doomsday and
13:21
another first round pick? That's.
13:25
The that's the decision you have to make. do you
13:27
think that apps really wide and Harrison's worthwhile and find
13:29
his They put you take him if not you take
13:31
efforts and you might get more assuming they make a
13:33
they were first set of fairness and thing as he
13:35
doesn't make it to eleven than I'm a saw you
13:37
them back up you know either because our Miami do
13:39
that pretty recently bakery jump up a couple spots but
13:41
the way I kind of mark out the first eleven
13:43
and I could see him getting their i really like
13:46
to know that Mike Lee as a Dm is is
13:48
that your wheel and and deal How I waste away
13:50
Saturn I love it and there are trying to trade
13:52
down and we're in a see a more More now
13:54
his. dad's the answer is
13:56
getting smarter and smarter oh yeah there's so much
13:58
value in trading down So 100% Arizona,
14:01
I believe, has said they're listening.
14:04
And they would be right to. And look, you don't get good value on it. If
14:07
it's a first and a third or something they're
14:09
offering, then no. You stay put, you take Marvin
14:11
Harrison. Yes, I went Marvin Harrison Jr.
14:13
You at Roman Dune's Day, obviously, with the reason of
14:15
being able to get additional draft
14:17
assets, which is fantastic. Nothing wrong with that.
14:20
Yeah. I like that, by the way. Regardless,
14:22
we think one of those receivers goes to Arizona,
14:25
and it's going to be excellent for fantasy. Trey
14:27
McRidle, soak up a lot of targets. James Carnell
14:29
will be busy, but that's it. I mean, Michael
14:31
Wilson, we like him, but probably best is a
14:34
two. Kyler Murray, I mean, that offense was
14:36
really good. They scored at least two touchdowns
14:38
in every game he played last season.
14:40
I mean, they were cooking offensively.
14:42
Some of it was garbage time, of course, but Kyler's
14:45
still one of the best in the business. So that'd be a good spot. Do
14:47
you, if Marvin Harrison or Roman
14:49
Dune's Day goes there right now, and I'm
14:51
looking at this projection, Trey McBride getting the
14:53
most targets on the team, does that wide
14:55
receiver immediately come in and get more targets
14:58
than Trey McBride? That's interesting. So
15:01
I wrote an article recently, it was the things
15:03
I learned while compiling those projections, and I wrote
15:05
about Trey McBride because his target share last year
15:07
would be, it's not sustainable.
15:09
I mean, it's just not sustainable. It'd be one of
15:11
the highest, I think it would have been the highest
15:13
target share or second highest target share of the last
15:15
decade at tight end over a full season. It
15:18
was Mark Andrews one year, was way up there.
15:21
So he's not going to match that. His targets will come
15:23
down. So if he's in the 20 to 23% range, which
15:25
is still high for a tight end, still enough to be
15:27
a top five tight end, I think that
15:29
receiver they take in the top half of the
15:32
first round would be very similar. So I
15:34
think close. I think close in
15:36
targets. All right. Let's move ahead and talk
15:38
about the Minnesota Vikings. They did a mock
15:40
trade with the Chargers for the fifth overall
15:42
pick. That's what JJ, excuse me,
15:45
and that is where I think, you can tell me
15:47
if you think I'm wrong, but like you
15:49
just lost Kirk Cousins. You've still got Justin
15:51
Jefferson. You've got Jordan Addison. You got TJ
15:53
Hockinson that eventually will be coming back. I
15:55
don't know how you go into this season,
15:57
not saying we've got to find the signal. caller
16:00
for the future that is not a shot at
16:02
Sam Darnold. It just feels like Sam Darnold is
16:04
the guy that's a holdover right now until you
16:06
get the guy. So when you
16:08
look at this roster, the only thing that feels
16:10
like it needs to be updated right now is
16:12
the quarterback position. Moving up the draft, I think
16:14
makes a lot of sense if you look at
16:16
Field Yates and Mel Kiper Jr. Excuse
16:19
me. They both have JJ
16:21
McCarthy coming off the board and going to
16:23
the Minnesota Vikings. Mike, where are you at
16:25
on this decision? Yeah, so same thing. I
16:27
have them going with McCarthy. It just feels
16:29
like a perfect fit, just him going from
16:31
Michigan up the street, essentially. Not really up
16:34
the street. I don't know which highway you
16:36
take, but it's close enough. It's in the
16:38
northeast, right? Is that what
16:41
we talked about? I think Minnesota officially
16:43
is not the northeast. I wouldn't call
16:45
that the northeast. Okay, Ohio, maybe. We
16:47
have a conversation. But Minnesota, not so
16:49
much. What is that? It's just the Midwest.
16:51
It's just the Midwest. So I
16:54
agree. Look, Sam Darnold's been back up for a
16:56
while. When he started, he's shown flashes at times.
16:58
He did that with the Jets. He did that
17:00
with Carolina. But he just hasn't shown
17:02
that he's going to be a consistently good NFL
17:04
starting quarterback. And maybe that changes. Like we've seen
17:06
it with Geno Smith. He came around.
17:09
Maybe it works out for Minnesota. They feel good about
17:11
Darnold and go another direction. But I
17:13
do think they need to address quarterback.
17:15
And again, I'm projecting the trade up
17:17
to the fourth overall pick and take
17:19
JJ McCarthy. Very interesting, super efficient, productive,
17:21
a winner at Michigan. But that was
17:23
an extremely run heavy offense. So we
17:26
don't know really what his ceiling is
17:28
in the pros. But that's
17:30
my prediction. Like you said, they have the skill
17:32
guys. They need the quarterback. I think they try
17:34
to do that. Yeah, they've sort of, they've, because
17:36
they had Kirk Cousins, they've got all the
17:38
pieces now. They've just got to go back out
17:41
and find that guy to be able to distribute
17:43
the football. Yeah. I'll tell you what, though, whether
17:45
it's McCarthy, someone else, whether it's Darnold, whoever, whoever
17:47
ends up being the quarterback there assessing
17:50
Justin Jefferson is going
17:52
to be interesting this year. No matter what
17:54
the situation is, we've already struggled with it.
17:56
You know, is he, You
17:59
know, is he quarterback? Proof. I mean he was
18:01
kind of inconsistent when he came back. I
18:03
should be some big games with the backup
18:06
quarterback situation. There's no, I use a tough
18:08
one, but we've seen superstar quarterbacks are superstar
18:10
receivers. Excuse me? And a zig
18:12
zags depending on who the quarterback was. A ninny was
18:14
in a very pass heavy high scoring. office of Kirk
18:17
cousins in and were great. When. He was
18:19
out of as you so good but not quite
18:21
as dominant. so easy to be. a tricky one
18:23
I think at the end of the day or
18:25
rank them where we have a now which is
18:27
midrange wide receiver. One cousins played that about half
18:29
a season give or take the average efforts him
18:31
as out yeah right member. He was out of
18:33
eight employment together last year so then he was
18:35
passes a little bit from her cousins and also
18:37
from Nyc Mullins and Josh Dobbs and Salmon Hall
18:39
the affray. any it again he had a couple
18:41
big games he was he really didn't think he
18:43
averaged twenty point to fantasy points. I gonna say
18:45
like the idea I'm interested a looks like he
18:47
was fantasy quarterback proof. Last year in
18:49
like this feeling situation but i'm i
18:52
wonder know like over the course of
18:54
an entire season know how often impact.
18:57
As can be willing to my eye for what is with them.
18:59
Asked him about the and this. An.
19:03
Hour. Or that decision to give the
19:05
Viking to signal caller to make sure they're able to
19:07
get the ball to them and get by that. by
19:09
the way think we're still going to stick with Jefferson
19:11
is wide receiver one but I'm worried about your and
19:13
Addison. I think he'll be over drafted and he day
19:15
I can send the Ac all make sell in Turkey.
19:18
Yeah play round pick by your he may miss a
19:20
month menace a month maybe more may be take time
19:22
to get going. Any one of her cousin says lot
19:24
of reasons to skip him on draft day as well
19:26
which is tough. May only thing that because I did
19:28
yeah consider my Dynasty roster not as a I have
19:30
to the August and and. Three. Mcbride
19:32
and you just humble brag rate is unsustainable.
19:34
You say bad things about both of my
19:37
I think you'll be okay. I think you'll
19:39
be okay with those with those guys again.
19:41
And I said yeah, Mcbride can afford to
19:43
lose targets that this would allow. He'll be.
19:45
he'll be fun to watch. Enough for Pm
19:47
Slate this year I'll talk about the New
19:49
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19:51
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19:54
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19:56
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21:00
that at none of us Assist nobody you
21:02
know have an ever years ecstasy Soren Hundred
21:04
and fifty more years I think. So we
21:06
want our Robinson Vila Hi it's. Various.
21:09
Laden a median waller. If he still gonna
21:11
come back and doesn't retire this is a
21:13
team that paid a boat load of money.
21:15
Do a quarterback. And
21:17
that quarterback doesn't have enough weapons to
21:20
throw the football to Mike. They gotta
21:22
go out and get a wide receiver.
21:24
If I look at mail and Fields
21:26
latest mock drafts, they have molitor neighbors.
21:29
Going there. I. Feel like
21:31
this is one of those decisions where you've gotta
21:34
make a decision one way or another. It's gotta
21:36
be a wide receiver them right? Do at least
21:38
agree with me on that the i think so
21:40
it could be quarterback or they make a shocking
21:43
development or you know, shocking move, move up and
21:45
much money to the I never even given the
21:47
opportunity I would he looks like yeah I, but
21:49
I agree with you. I think they probably safer
21:52
with zones first salary reasons. And ah, they get
21:54
a wide receiver Aziz. I mean, that's the thing
21:56
with a new Jones. i
21:58
don't know that he's ever habeas superstar but
22:00
he hasn't had a stand-up group around
22:02
him at all and you know he
22:04
really struggled early last season this offense
22:07
was atrocious but I
22:09
would like to see them go out and get a
22:11
superstar so neighbors could be the pick but based on
22:13
the trade I made earlier with Arizona moving down I
22:15
have the first receiver coming off the board at six
22:17
overall I know you the Giants are gonna be sitting
22:20
there like I can't believe this just happened but Marvin
22:22
Harrison Jr. is sitting there waiting for them at six
22:24
so that probably be a shocker if he made it
22:26
that far that would be but the way I with
22:28
that trade up to four it's definitely possible
22:30
so yeah so I do have Marvin Harrison dropping
22:32
to the Giants but I think Mel and Fields
22:34
pick a Malik neighbors make a lot of sense
22:36
as well yeah I followed Sue and went with
22:39
Malik neighbors because I already had Marvin Harrison Jr.
22:41
coming off to the Cardinals however if he is
22:43
on the board here and you were the Giants
22:45
you run as fast as
22:48
possible to the podium to turn that card
22:50
in if Marvin Harrison Jr. is there so
22:52
regardless they've just got to find a
22:54
guy to be able to be the number one
22:56
pass guesser for Daniel Jones in this offense to
22:58
understand whether or not this 40 million dollar a
23:00
year option can be fully realized or if they
23:02
need to move on so yeah I'm with you
23:05
and by the way you you mentioned this in
23:07
passing but I don't know if we have you
23:09
know confirmation on Darren Waller's future there
23:11
was a day a few weeks ago where the Giants on
23:13
the same day signed two veteran tight ends and I thought
23:15
oh do they know something we don't but
23:17
he is considering his future I have to imagine
23:19
the team will hope to get an answer from
23:22
him by the draft in a couple weeks so
23:24
we'll see how that plays out probably at
23:26
this point if he hasn't retired yet you would
23:28
think he'll come back but it's not for sure
23:30
yet so keep that in mind never know you
23:32
never know with people all right let's move ahead
23:34
and talk about the Los Angeles Chargers filling the
23:36
void for them and they've got a handful of
23:38
them at an S at the end a lot
23:40
of voids there's a lot of voids all right
23:42
here's the deal charges of loss some
23:44
guys Mike Williams now with the Jets Keenan
23:47
Allen now with the Bears Austin
23:49
Eckler with the commanders basically
23:51
the Chargers as we've known it from a
23:54
skill position perspective over the
23:56
last five years even Gerald ever yes
23:58
Gerald Everett moves on to the Chicago
24:00
running backs now are Gus Edwards
24:02
and Isaiah Spiller top wide
24:04
receivers are Quentin Johnston Josh Palmer Darius Davis and
24:06
then your best tight end is will disley. Yeah
24:08
bringing a blocking tie down What do you think
24:10
they want to do Gus Edwards and will disley?
24:12
What do you think their plan is? Well, you
24:14
know, I wonder if they have a
24:17
running like a coach just likes
24:19
to really run the football Yeah and a
24:21
coordinator here and a coordinator that really likes
24:23
to they're gonna run the ball So they
24:25
got pick 11 and they get 23 for
24:27
what it's worth at pick 11 Both field
24:29
and Mel have them going with JC Latham
24:31
and I'm fine with that Like it's tough
24:33
to argue with let's protect our franchise signal
24:35
caller. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Yeah,
24:37
they need right tackle help. Obviously they have
24:40
Sean Slater there, but need could use another
24:42
tackle So so then pick 23 their
24:44
second thing in the first round is really where it starts
24:46
Mike I think we you at least need to get
24:48
one wide receiver if not two if you're a pick
24:50
23 Which
24:52
direction are you gonna go here? Yeah So first of
24:55
all by the way if if the draft goes how
24:57
it went for me I could see them taking Marvin
24:59
Harrison with five or a receiver when not shocked should
25:01
not shock us at all I mean again, they have
25:03
a left tackle so they definitely could go wide receiver
25:05
Yeah, because of what they currently have right now They
25:07
have to have 11 and 23 because of the trade
25:09
that they made in this exercise with the Viking Right,
25:14
so yeah, absolutely so they could they could go
25:16
that direction early on but I'm
25:18
with you I went tackle with them with that
25:20
first pick early in the first round. I don't
25:22
have them trading back I've been taking all with
25:24
that fifth pick and getting a love that tackle.
25:26
Yep. So with the 37th
25:29
pick I actually have them taking Lad
25:32
McConkie who I like a lot
25:34
wider seabrata, Georgia kind
25:36
of more of a Keenan Allen
25:38
and a Mike Williams, right? Is there a possession guy
25:41
kind of gives you like the Cooper Cup sort of
25:43
vibe the guy that just kind of soak up targets
25:45
in The intermediate and short range so
25:47
I I like him a lot And I
25:49
think he might go a little earlier than that, but I
25:51
think that would be a good fit for Justin Herbert Just
25:53
to get a guy That could
25:55
be like the cup to Stafford. He would be
25:57
that for for and
26:00
Herbert very well could have like a Pukin-Dakua
26:02
type rookie season. They keep making the LA
26:04
comps here but that's a guy that's a
26:07
you know would be a possession guy we love
26:09
him PPR good quarterback the offense that you know this
26:11
team's probably going to be around 500 maybe below they're
26:13
going to have to throw it a lot so that's
26:15
the first void. We have receiver and running back as
26:17
notable voids the first one filled for me is McConkie
26:19
early in the second round. So then who's your second
26:21
if you have a second player that you're going to
26:24
throw in here? Yeah my second would be a running
26:26
back to go along with Gus Edwards. I don't think
26:28
they're done at the running back position you can't be
26:30
Gus Edwards has never been a featured back you
26:32
know I just you expect maybe 200
26:35
carries and 10 targets out of
26:37
Gus Edwards. That might be it.
26:39
Yeah so I went the easy route here okay
26:41
their coach is Jim Harbaugh he's coming from Michigan
26:43
we just mentioned they were very run heavy offense.
26:45
Oh interesting. And who is their running back? Blake
26:48
Corum. So I have a fourth round pick I'm
26:50
not as high on Blake Corum which makes this
26:52
tricky but I have with their
26:54
pick 105 fifth pick of the fourth
26:56
round Blake Corum again another guy
26:58
that can jump right in there and compete
27:01
with Gus Edwards for for that role is
27:03
their their lead back so and the guy
27:05
that you know he's a capable pass catcher
27:07
so he can get involved in that direction that's what they
27:09
need they need a more dynamic guy to go with Gus
27:11
Edwards. All right so you went Lad McConkie and Blake Corum
27:13
which I can't argue with totally makes a ton of sense
27:15
they do need to get another pass catcher there. I
27:18
went with the 23 overall pick with Adnai Mitchell and
27:20
then with the 37 overall pick I went with
27:23
Lad McConkie because two receivers okay I like
27:25
it don't feel like Quentin Johnston showed me
27:27
enough to be like yep we can just
27:29
leave him alone he's wide receiver one for
27:32
sure on that team and Josh Palmer as
27:34
much as I've been a Josh Palmer fan
27:36
last two years he's had a lot of opportunities
27:38
to kind of take the reins there when guys have
27:40
been hurt when Mike Williams and Kean Ella have been
27:42
hurt and he hasn't really done that so for me
27:45
like I'm not worried about them running the football
27:47
we got running backs galore that Jim Harbaugh can
27:49
go through in the NFL what I want is
27:52
wide receivers for Justin Herbert and to have him
27:55
get back to that MVP level because he's got
27:57
guys to be able to distribute the football to
27:59
I would I want as many wide receivers there
28:01
as possible. I'm not worried about Jim Harbaugh running the
28:03
ball. I want him to throw the ball a little
28:05
bit more. He hasn't even started coaching yet. I already
28:07
want Jim Harbaugh to throw more than he's going to.
28:09
Yeah, it's an interesting one because when they were together
28:11
in the past in San Francisco, they called kind of
28:13
a balanced offense, but the Niners were so good. Remember,
28:16
they went to the Super Bowl. They
28:18
were ahead often like they are now under Kyle
28:20
Shanahan. And they were
28:22
able to run the clock out in the second half
28:24
a lot. So it made their numbers look a little
28:27
different than they actually were. So I'm curious how that
28:29
looks in LA. I mean, you have
28:31
one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Theoretically, you
28:33
should want to pass the football. So but
28:36
then again, their personnel move so far suggests they're not
28:38
going to. But I think maybe we'll get an indicator
28:40
with this pick. If they do take one of the
28:42
top three receivers instead of offensive line,
28:45
then maybe it's going to be more balanced
28:47
than we think. But yes, it's kind of
28:49
weird. Receiver is a bigger need than tackle
28:51
for them. And yet, yes, everyone's
28:54
projecting tackle because of their other personnel moves and
28:56
thinking they're going to run the football. So that's
28:58
going to be one of the big moves
29:00
in the draft. It's going to kind of point me in the
29:03
direction of how to project that offense. Yeah, this
29:05
is a very it's a very interesting
29:07
offense now that Harbaugh has taken over
29:09
with the guys that have left this
29:11
team. What's it going to look
29:13
like in 2020? Every year, every year there's a few
29:15
teams like that where it's just a completely different team.
29:17
We talk about Atlanta. They're the most obvious one. They're
29:19
going to look way different than they have in years
29:21
past. But the Chargers will as well.
29:23
Yep. All right. Moving ahead. Pick number 12, fill
29:26
in the void for the Denver
29:28
Broncos. Obviously, Russell Wilson has left
29:31
this team. They have picked
29:33
number 12. And when I look at
29:35
this roster, Mike, I got to tell you, I don't
29:38
love it. I don't love this. No, it goes
29:40
right. There's a lot of holes to fill. There's not
29:42
just one hole. There's this is another one where
29:44
it should be parentheses S. You look
29:46
at the quarterback, Jarrett Stidham is the guy there. Jevante
29:48
Williams, man, we all have high hopes for him to
29:50
come back and continue to be the running back that
29:53
we thought he could be early in his career. You're
29:55
some injuries. Yeah, you're too back from that knee injury.
29:57
This is the year we're going to find out if
29:59
he has it. And then his wide receivers, he's got
30:01
Cortland Sutton. Marvin Mims who was the exciting rookie from
30:03
last year didn't seem as much as we had wanted
30:05
Hopefully gets more running year two and then Josh Reynolds
30:07
from my Detroit Lions signed Patrick Don't forget Tim Patrick
30:09
come out and injury to so you have some receiver
30:12
depth there So to me it seems
30:14
obvious no offense to Jared Stidham, but you've got to
30:16
go out again I'm gonna find these guys. I'm not
30:18
offend them. Okay, Sam Darnold shirts and these are backups
30:20
This is where it's at. You're making a lot of
30:22
money So like I maybe you shouldn't
30:25
be offended by what I'm saying here But yeah, the
30:27
Broncos need to go out and find themselves a quarterback
30:29
I think Mel and Todd when I looked at what
30:31
they did Mel went a different direction Mel
30:33
took the cornerback in his latest mock draft
30:35
field though went with BONIX out
30:37
of Oregon So I'm
30:39
curious understanding what those two draft gurus did.
30:42
What would Mike Clay do in this situation?
30:45
Look You're gonna go into
30:47
the season with Jared Stidham as your quarterback I
30:49
don't know I don't think I would know I
30:51
don't think I would so what I better you
30:53
two options you Take the best quarterback available there
30:55
or you trade up one of the top guys
30:57
depends on who you like So I do think
30:59
they take a quarterback in the middle of the
31:01
first round early in the first round And
31:04
the best guy on the board when they're up I believe
31:06
will be BONIX So that's what I went with with the
31:08
12th overall pick the guy with a lot of experience and
31:11
he was outstanding Last year think
31:13
about all the quarterbacks. We already talked about BONIX
31:15
had the best in class marks and
31:18
passing touchdowns He had 45 his first in completion rate
31:20
at 77 percent lowest interception rate
31:22
lowest sack rate Which is actually an
31:25
interesting one is it pertains to quarterbacks
31:27
and lowest off-target rate very
31:29
low average depth of throw He's conservative But Sean
31:31
P and that a lot of success with a
31:33
low a doc I in drew Brees in New
31:35
Orleans So he could actually be a really nice
31:37
fit can run it a little bit So I
31:39
that's an interesting fit for me if Denver and
31:41
P and like BONIX I think that's a natural
31:43
fit right there in early in the first round
31:45
I mean low a dot which I
31:48
get you want to be able to push the ball
31:50
down the field the NFL I understand that but you're
31:52
talking about such a high complete completion percentage limiting turnovers
31:55
I mean like there these are things that within
31:57
an NFL offense. You don't just need a quarterback
31:59
that can at 70 yards. Sometimes you need
32:01
a guy that can make sure he's not turning the football
32:03
over. So, you know, BONIX has a
32:05
lot to offer. I think coming to this Denver Broncos
32:07
team would make a lot of sense for both him
32:09
and the Broncos. I
32:12
think it makes too much sense. I think both
32:14
of us going BONIX here filling the void with
32:16
the number 12 overall pick. From
32:18
a pure draft value
32:20
standpoint, 12th overall is high
32:22
for me for BONIX. But based on the idea that you've
32:25
got to get your quarterback, you got to do what you
32:27
got to do when it comes to the draft. That's
32:29
interesting because sometimes as an
32:31
industry, everyone doing the mock drafts, there's a lot
32:34
of group think you kind of see that. And
32:36
then the quarterbacks go way later than you'd expect
32:38
or vice versa. They go way earlier. At this
32:40
point, a few years ago, Daniel Jones was not
32:42
considered a first round prospect. A lot of people
32:44
were mocking him in the second. He
32:47
went what was it, fourth overall, fifth overall
32:49
to the Giants. And then, you
32:51
know, a couple of years ago, we had like Malik
32:53
Willis was like the second overall pick in mock drafts
32:55
and he fell to the third round, the third round
32:57
and Sam Howell, same kind of thing. So
33:00
that's always tricky. Who knows? Maybe BONIX goes in
33:02
the third round. Maybe he goes eighth overall. We
33:04
don't know at this point. But the
33:06
fact is Denver cannot go into the season with
33:09
Jared Sinem. It's just going to be all right.
33:11
He threw another pick. Let's let's give a bend
33:13
Anuchi a shot. It's over. The season's over. You
33:16
can't do that. You cannot do that. All right,
33:18
Mike, let's take that same energy and talk about
33:20
pick number 13. See, this
33:22
is what's interesting. Las Vegas Raiders. So many teams
33:24
need a quarterback, but not everyone can get one.
33:27
And then that's where the Raiders come in. So
33:29
we're at pick 13 in the
33:31
first round, right? With the way that we're talking
33:33
about this top three quarterbacks have already come off
33:35
the board, picks one, two and three. And then
33:37
we've also got JJ McCarthy already off the board.
33:39
And with this, we took BONIX with pick 12
33:41
to the Denver Broncos. You get
33:43
to the Raiders who are 13 and
33:46
their roster doesn't stack up super favorably either
33:48
when you look at it, they've got a
33:50
no Connell under or Gardner Minshew. He's there
33:52
as well. Exactly. One of those two guys,
33:54
the mere white and Alexander Madison. They're two
33:57
running backs as of right now. Devontae Adams,
33:59
a superstar. starting to come down with the age.
34:01
I mean he's been in this league for a long time. Loved
34:04
Jacoby Myers, you know an underrated guy. And then Michael
34:06
Mayer, someone that we really liked as a high tight
34:08
end, even though he wasn't the rookie tight end that
34:11
took the season by storm or the league by storm last
34:13
year. Who was that? Well,
34:16
Sam LaPorta, Mike, I gotta tell you, Sam
34:18
LaPorta looks really good. I can't even say
34:20
Lions by us anymore. It's fair. Maybe the
34:22
best rookie tight end season ever. I'm
34:25
at a spot where I look at this and
34:27
it's like, okay, pick 13. Mel
34:30
and Field when you look at it, pick 13, they're
34:32
going offensive tackle. The team needs to be able to
34:34
shore up that offensive line, not just for their quarterback,
34:36
whoever it is, but also for the running game. And
34:38
then you get to pick 36. Field
34:41
Yates, in his latest mock, has
34:43
Michael Penix Jr. coming off the board with
34:45
a trade to Washington. And if Michael Penix
34:48
is available there at 36,
34:50
Mike, I think it makes a ton of
34:52
sense for the Raiders to pull the trigger and go this
34:54
route. What would you do? Yeah, I can see them doing
34:57
that. I actually just have them staying put and taking him
34:59
with the 12th pick of the second round, 44th overall. I
35:01
don't know if that's going to do the trick, but that's
35:03
where, at least what I projected. So, uh, still liking to
35:05
feel the void though with the quarterback. Yeah, I think they
35:07
try to find a quarterback at some point. I don't know
35:09
when, but again, I think could they just
35:11
go with Aiden O'Connell and Gardner Minshew? Maybe. I mean,
35:13
Minshew held down the four last year. It's not a
35:15
great situation, but if you want to, if you don't
35:17
feel like you like Penix and the other guys
35:19
are gone, you might have to stay put, which
35:22
is what I said earlier. It puts him in
35:24
kind of a tough position. So yeah, Penix, uh,
35:26
kind of polarizing. He's an older prospect. He's had
35:29
a lot of major injuries. He's just kind of
35:31
a pocket quarterback at this point. So, uh,
35:34
but again, sometimes you got to throw darts if you don't
35:36
have a quarterback and that might be the answer for them.
35:38
So I have them going with Penix in the second round,
35:40
uh, but also another running back. You may have noticed or
35:42
another void there. You may have noticed was a running
35:45
back. Is it mere white? The future there. Alex
35:47
Madison was not a lead back in Minnesota.
35:49
We learned that very quickly last year.
35:52
So, um, this gives me an
35:54
opportunity to talk about a running back sleeper. You
35:56
know, I love running back sleepers. I do know
35:58
you love Jordan Howard's and Chris Carson. Carson's love
36:00
these guys, right? So a guy that
36:02
I really like is Isaac
36:05
Garendo from Louisville 6'221, really fast. So
36:09
think about that. He's 6'221. What
36:11
do you think his 40-yard dash was at the
36:13
combine? That's probably 21 pounds, don't you? Well,
36:16
I was going to say it's probably like a Kaitlyn Bellage type number. No,
36:18
it's 433. Whoa! 433 at
36:20
220 is unbelievable. He
36:24
kind of reminds me of Chris Carson a
36:26
little bit and that he never had a big workload in
36:29
college so that's yet to be seen
36:31
but his efficiency was kind of average
36:33
but that size speed compliment, you just
36:35
think Raiders, right? It's the Al Davis
36:37
way. Absolutely. Let's get this big fast guy.
36:40
So that's a fifth rounder. I like him more than
36:42
that but I think that's a day three running back.
36:44
You add him into that competition with
36:46
those two backs as well as Amir Abdullah. They
36:50
might stay put at running back this year as
36:52
well with White and White Abdullah and Madison, but
36:54
if they take a shot I think it's a
36:56
day three guy. Yeah, and I'm interested
36:58
to see the way that Michael Mayer takes a step
37:00
hopefully in year two in seeing what he can do
37:02
and like I said, Jacoby Myers, I really like him
37:05
from a wide receiver perspective. Givante Adams, I
37:07
would like to know what they're going to do for the future
37:09
of that position but that is not as important
37:11
as finding the next quarterback for this team. Yeah, and
37:13
they actually need some depth there. So they could be
37:15
looking at the future of receivers. You saw Trey Tucker
37:17
on there as their three so they do need depth
37:19
but it's a deep class so don't be surprised if
37:22
on day two they make a big splash for a wide receiver.
37:24
Yep. Let's move ahead.
37:26
Our producer, Tyler, is a huge
37:29
Bengals fan, massive Bengals fan. Joe
37:32
Mixon unfortunately has left his team
37:34
so they're at a situation where they're going to have to find a
37:37
new running back. Right now they did bring in Zach Moss, right? That's
37:40
another guy I like to slow start to his career but it
37:42
doesn't feel like that's going
37:45
to be the only thing. You look at the roster,
37:47
Joe Burrell obviously under center for them. Wide receiver is
37:49
Jamar Chase T. Higgins, Andre
37:51
Yasova, Trenton Irwin, Mike
37:54
Kiseki coming in at the tight end.
37:56
This year, excuse me. That's one of
37:58
those things where I think we've had this. customization. Mike
38:00
is sick in theory like should be so great
38:02
in this offense because he's basically just a wide
38:04
receiver but it never really materializes for fantasy the
38:06
way that we want it. No, he's had opportunities
38:08
elsewhere and has not panned out of
38:11
course Miami a lot of opportunity there and just
38:13
wasn't the guy didn't work out in New England
38:15
you know, he's had opportunities and was not featured.
38:17
So I don't I don't
38:19
even know if he's gonna start He might just be a
38:21
situational red zone target. They have Tanner Hudson there drew samples
38:24
back as a blocker So I wouldn't I would not get
38:26
my carry-to with Mike is sick. You know, I agree with
38:28
you I agree with you on that. I think that
38:30
leaves us in one of two spots You're either
38:32
looking to potentially replace Joe Mixon and to add
38:34
someone to that Zach Moss backfield Or
38:37
you could potentially say that T Higgins might not be long
38:39
for this team And do we want to look at maybe
38:41
adding another pass catcher as a part of this? So you
38:43
look at what Mel Kuiper jr. And field have done on
38:45
their latest mocks Mel met
38:48
went with a defensive tackle showing up the
38:50
defensive line there field though
38:52
Brian Thomas jr Grabbing
38:54
the wide receiver six three runs at that
38:56
awesome four three forty I mean he's a
38:58
big guy coming out of LSU looked really
39:00
good at the combine Mike Clay if you're
39:03
taking Brian Thomas here to Me that makes
39:05
me think that you're planning on life without
39:07
T Higgins down the road. Yeah, maybe not
39:09
next year I think they have other voids.
39:11
I don't know if they'll go receiver. We
39:13
I don't know if you mentioned Tyler Boyd
39:16
He's still a free agent so he could always come back
39:18
at a discount. So We'll keep
39:20
an eye on that. I don't know if they'll go wide
39:23
receiver that early I know Mel to have them taking
39:25
a receiver later in the draft which makes more sense
39:27
to me and part like you had said It is
39:29
a deep wide receiver. Yes We talk about the names
39:31
at the top because they're really good But like there
39:33
is a lot of names the deeper that you get
39:35
so yeah, I'm with you So again, I don't review
39:38
that as a massive need. I mean teams would be
39:41
Teams would be like I don't care of my three is if
39:43
I have T Higgins and Jamar chase like I'm right. I'm good
39:45
So I but I do
39:47
think running back is a spot they will address
39:49
and I have them actually doing that on day
39:51
two I had a third round Marshawn
39:54
Lloyd is one of my favorite running back prospects out
39:56
of USC again 5 9 2 20 has size to
39:58
be a lead
40:01
back, a quick fast ran a 4-4, 6-40 again at
40:03
220 pounds, but he has the best efficiency profile
40:07
in this running back class believe it or
40:09
not. His yards after contact,
40:11
third force miss tackle rate, first in
40:14
this class, has injury issues, some fumble
40:16
issues, and we'll see if
40:18
that ends up costing him the pros, but the nice
40:21
thing is about Cincinnati, if they take him in the
40:23
third round, first of all, we're going to love him
40:25
as a fantasy sleeper in that situation because he's going
40:27
to be the best raw talent probably
40:30
in that backfield, but doesn't
40:32
have to necessarily be the guy day one
40:34
because again they do have Jack Moss who
40:36
filled in great for Jonathan Taylor last season
40:38
and Chase Brown who's been kind of a
40:40
playmaker as a change of pace guy.
40:42
So I think that would be a really
40:45
good landing spot for any running back and
40:47
I like Lloyd a lot so don't be surprised
40:49
if he's picked on
40:51
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get in time baby. I just
41:57
want to say I'm with you on whatever running
41:59
back you want to. talk about especially guys that
42:01
are that deep. I don't know running back that
42:03
deep into the draft right now Mike. Look in
42:05
your defense you're studying UFL guys. You want to talk
42:07
about CJ Maribel? I can talk about CJ Maribel. I
42:09
remember him from about five years ago when he came
42:11
into the league. Yeah like are you in on the
42:14
whole Jake Bates like bandwagon? Are you in on this?
42:16
I know what that means. I know what a Jake
42:18
Bates back to back 60 yard field
42:20
goal in the UFL. I am 62
42:22
yard. So anyways yeah I'm following
42:26
you when it comes to running back I'll dive deeper
42:28
into the running back position but right now I'm
42:30
all in on UFL here. Alright let's
42:32
talk cowboys next. Alright here's a
42:34
number 24. One of the biggest voids
42:36
in all of fantasy right now. Huge.
42:38
Quarterback, you know quarterbacks obviously a huge
42:40
one but from a strictly fantasy perspective
42:43
if you're trying to identify who will
42:45
the top scoring fantasy player be
42:47
next year top receivers
42:49
probably stand out but if it's gonna be a running
42:51
back that kind of ascends to that
42:53
post it might be the Dallas Cowboys running
42:55
back. Yeah because that offense is fantastic looked
42:57
fantastic last year with Dak Prescott under center
43:00
and right now they do not
43:02
have Tony Pollard. The two running backs that we're
43:04
looking at are Rico Dowdle, Deuce
43:06
Vaughn, the wide receivers you
43:08
got C.D. Lamb, Rayna Cooks, Jelen Tolbert, Jake
43:10
Ferguson we like at the tight end position
43:12
but it's so obvious when you look at
43:14
this roster the glaring hole the only void
43:17
it feels like they have. Yeah. The running
43:19
back position. You saw if you're watching the
43:21
video the end was missing from Vaughn there
43:23
that's the end stands for no running
43:25
back. The end stands for no running back because we don't we
43:27
don't have a starter right now so it could be a rookie.
43:30
I was sitting here trying to think of a joke
43:32
that was the best I could do. Are they gonna
43:34
bring Zeke back? Yeah maybe. Do we have a reunion?
43:36
Yeah I think Zeke rookie backfield makes
43:38
a lot of sense. Yeah we'll see how that
43:40
plays out. A little more committee related. But regardless
43:42
I think they I think they addressed it early
43:44
in the draft. So they got the 24th overall
43:47
pick in the first round. Too early. Too
43:49
early for a running back especially this year right that's one
43:51
of the things that we learned if you look at what
43:53
Mel and Field did they both had him going with the
43:55
offensive tackle position which makes a ton of sense. Tyron Smith
43:57
now move into the Jets so they got a show. sort
44:00
of that offensive line. Yeah, they lost
44:02
their center as well to Washington. That old
44:04
line is actually very suspect right now.
44:06
It's kind of a kind of sneaks up on you. Yep. So they've
44:08
worked to do there. But they do have
44:10
at pick 56, Jonathan Brooks from Texas. I think
44:12
the number one running back in this class, Mike,
44:15
coming off the board. I think so. It feels
44:17
like this would be a really good marriage right
44:19
here if he was able to make it that
44:21
far. Yeah, I think there is probably three running
44:23
backs in that top tier. Brooks has been knocked
44:25
a bit because he's coming off a torn ACL.
44:28
It looks like it was a clean break and
44:30
it'll be good to go for next season. Something
44:32
I really like about him, very young relative to
44:34
these other guys, only 21 years old, plenty of time
44:37
to get healthy and get rolling. So
44:39
I like him a lot. Also, we just saw
44:41
Breece Hall come off an ACL and
44:43
have a terrific season last
44:46
year. He was a fantasy superstar in a
44:48
good situation in New York. Bad offense, but
44:50
in a situation where very involved
44:52
in the passing game, and as a runner and
44:54
a top end talent, Brooks on tape looks fantastic.
44:57
He looks like a future star running back. And
44:59
again, if he goes to Dallas, there's opportunity there
45:01
right now with very little competition. So keep an
45:03
eye on that. Three down ability. He can catch
45:05
the ball. He could run it. So as long
45:08
as the recovery continues and he's healthy
45:10
and he's ready to go, I'm with
45:12
you. I have Brooks going to Dallas in the second
45:15
round. That would be a dream landing spot for any
45:17
of these acts. Makes too much sense as long as
45:19
he lasts that far. And this is one of the
45:21
draft day questions that I'm very intrigued in watching. When
45:23
is the first running back going to come off the
45:25
board? Because this is not like we've had in recent
45:28
years where it was Reese Hall first
45:30
round pick potentially, or Bijon Robinson, very clearly going to
45:32
be a top 10 pick. It's a different kind of
45:34
running back class this year. So interested to see how
45:36
that's going to work out. All right, moving ahead. We
45:38
got one more void to fill. And
45:41
it's with the Buffalo Bills, Mike.
45:43
Yeah, what could this be? Yeah, seriously. Oh, you
45:45
know what? Obviously. There's no one to throw the
45:47
football to. I think I say no one to
45:49
throw the football, because you don't like Josh Allen.
45:52
Josh Allen is the only Josh Allen hater. And
45:54
they have Mitch Trubisky as well. So they certainly
45:56
don't need to order that. No,
45:58
they got James Cook as they're running. back here. I
46:00
mean he is one of the exciting young prospects
46:02
at the running back position in the NFL. And
46:04
then you look at the wide receivers. Oh boy.
46:06
Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir,
46:08
Justin Shorter, Andy Isabella,
46:11
Dalton Kincaid, Mack Hollins, how about this, KJ
46:13
Hamler. Yeah, that's who's competing right now. You
46:15
know we used to have Stefan Diggs and
46:17
Gabe Davis there. They're both now in different
46:19
places. So we're at a spot where the
46:21
Bills need that big guy. Right now it
46:23
kind of feels like Dalton Kincaid would be.
46:25
I realized maybe Curtis Samuel is gonna get
46:27
more targets. I don't know. What does your
46:29
projection say? Yeah, I mean I bumped him
46:31
up for now. He's got five more targets
46:34
than Curtis Samuel. I bumped up. Once they
46:36
traded Stefan Diggs, part of it was bumping
46:38
up more back to more 12 personnel like
46:40
last year where you have more Dasa Knox
46:42
on the field for now. But that could
46:44
obviously change back if they address his position.
46:46
I think it's one of the safest bets
46:49
in this draft is that Buffalo will address receiver
46:51
with their first round pick. At least once they
46:53
need to. I think they should address it
46:55
more than one time. I think a couple
46:57
wide receivers especially in this deep wide receiver. I think
46:59
so. I mean it probably depends on what you think
47:01
of Khalil Shakir. Do you believe he's a top three
47:04
receiver? If so, then you go with him, you go
47:06
with Curtis Samuel, and you go with whoever you drafted
47:08
in the first round. But I agree they might not
47:10
be done there after the first
47:12
receiver. So when I look at this, Mel Kiper has
47:15
him taking Brian Thomas and Field
47:17
Yates has him going Xavier Worthy,
47:19
the kid that ran 4-2-1 at
47:22
the combine speedster. I'm
47:24
interested. I get that. I have
47:26
both of those guys unfortunately already drafted based
47:28
on the board that I have done with
47:30
you. So I went with Troy Franklin and
47:32
Xavier Laguette here with this one. Which direction
47:34
would you go at the wide receiver position?
47:36
Yeah, so I have a name Mitchell who
47:39
you had going to. He went to...
47:43
You had him going at the top somewhere else. But
47:46
the same part of the draft. So late
47:48
in the first round. So you would have
47:50
gone to the Chargers right. I have him
47:52
going to Buffalo here 6-2-2-0-5. He's had a
47:54
Texas big fast perimeter receiver. Very
47:57
high average at the target in college. I use him as
47:59
a vertical target. Very
48:01
similar to, fast by
48:03
the way, good project, had a good combine, but
48:05
more Gabe Davis than Stefan
48:07
Digg. So you're right, they might need more of a,
48:09
I mean maybe Curtis Samuel is the possession guy and
48:12
then Kincaid in the short and intermediate area
48:15
and then Mitchell is your lidlifter,
48:18
could be the scenario. So I don't know, Mitchell,
48:20
if he's used like that, he's going to have
48:22
limited PPR value, more value in non-PPR if he's
48:24
used that way, but they got to get
48:26
somebody. They have to get a playmaker in this offense. I don't
48:29
know why, I just love the term lidlifter. Like
48:31
it's my favorite thing now. Yeah. That's
48:33
fun. That's fun for you. So
48:36
that'll be a good one. But yeah,
48:38
the Bills obviously, I mean to go from
48:41
Stefan Digg and Gabe Davis, and
48:43
Gabe Davis, it didn't feel like ever
48:45
fully realized what we were hoping for from that
48:47
potential right, but still, it's a
48:49
big drop there. They got to shore
48:51
up that wide receiver position, give Josh Allen someone to
48:53
throw the football to. I'm
48:56
with you. And I think that's our show, Mike. Is it
48:58
though? Is it? We just
49:00
went, wait, is it not? You know, we didn't talk
49:02
about, you know, I'll cut here just real quick. Just
49:04
a couple of guys we did not put on teams,
49:07
other top guys. So I'm looking at my rankings, my
49:09
rookie rankings. So we have Marvin Harrison, Malik neighbors, Roma
49:11
Dunes. We put them all on teams,
49:13
right? We did not put Brock Bowers on the team. You're
49:16
right. You know, what's interesting
49:18
about that is everyone, almost everyone is mocking
49:20
him to the Jets. Yeah. With
49:23
that 10th overall pick. But that's not like, you know, the
49:25
Jets roster and say tight ends a big problem because Tyler
49:27
Conklin is a good player. He's a good underrated player. We're
49:30
not be surprising at all. If they address that
49:32
spot, they don't, they have kind of depth issues.
49:34
The receiver, aren't they signing Bubba Franks and, uh,
49:37
yeah, Michael Finley, all former, former
49:42
Packers, of course. Yeah. So,
49:44
uh, but that, that would be a fun one too. Um,
49:46
again, you don't view it as a major need, but
49:49
it would be awesome. It would be, it would
49:51
lift that offense. Like
49:54
would that be, if he
49:56
goes there, does he
49:58
have a lower ceiling because he Splitting time with Breece
50:00
Hall who's gonna get a ton of touches and Garrett
50:02
Wilson like do we want him to do like Will
50:04
he be a worse offense? Maybe Not
50:07
necessarily I I mean I could see Garrett
50:09
Wilson leading the NFL and touchdown catches because
50:11
this offense is gonna throw a plenty They
50:13
were they leaned toward the pass last year
50:15
game script adjusted with 2023 Mike Lee or
50:18
2024 Mike Lee telling me this about Garrett
50:20
Wilson Look Oh,
50:23
I know you so much. I'm so Aaron Rodgers
50:25
Aaron Rodgers lasted what three minutes of the season.
50:28
I'm not I struggle at that
50:30
No, I know. I know that because you know, so
50:32
I wish we that's not a bad take. I wish
50:34
we had like a month I know So
50:37
we have a better assessment like if they were struggling and then
50:39
he got hurt and I would be like, alright That's a no,
50:41
but it's hard to say. So Yeah,
50:43
I think I think going there would be great
50:45
I mean Mike Williams might you know, we already
50:47
know he's boom bust Gary Wilson's gonna be busy
50:49
Hall's targets will go down There's no doubt
50:51
about that. They just had to throw them last
50:54
year And
50:56
then after that Who
50:58
is it? You know, I think there's plenty of room for Brock
51:00
Bowers to be busy in that offense We should have them go
51:02
to pick 11 to the Chargers
51:05
because Jim Harbaugh needs a good blocking tight end
51:07
there. Mmm. Oh God You
51:14
never know what tight end so sometimes sometimes they were
51:16
Sam LaPorta Sometimes it takes them a few years like
51:18
Ingram and then Joku like it took them a while
51:20
to become a consistent fantasy Star, so
51:22
Evan Ingram, I think is one of those like
51:24
under the radar He is so much better than
51:26
he gets credit for with what he's done And
51:28
I've talked about this a bunch like he's not
51:31
a touchdown maker He's a chain mover, but if
51:33
you're playing in a PPR league and he's getting
51:35
you 90 catches and yeah 900 yards There's
51:38
so many tight ends like that. I mean Dallas
51:40
Goddard's another one It's just like if he has
51:42
scored six touchdowns, you're like, wow, that's great. I'll
51:44
take that. That's a big number That's a that's
51:46
a fine number for even a tight end one.
51:48
So yeah, I'm with you So a lot upside
51:51
there Brian Thomas, we briefly mentioned him But he's
51:53
another guy that could go middle of the first
51:55
round We mentioned lad mcconk gave him sixth on
51:57
my board and named Mitchell the
51:59
quarterbacks Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, how about Keon
52:01
Coleman? Did not mention Keon Coleman. Did I mention him out
52:03
of Florida State? That's another guy that could slip into the
52:05
first round and land on Monies. I'm hoping he goes second
52:07
round to my Detroit Lions, actually. I would love to have
52:09
a bigger bodied wide receiver like that. Yeah,
52:12
because you need, yeah, you need some competition
52:14
there, right? So, yeah, they have- Right, Amunrod,
52:16
J-Mo, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Khalif Raymond. Yeah,
52:18
so we don't know what we're gonna get out of
52:21
Jameson Williams, who's the real- This is it.
52:23
I mean, this season is the season where
52:25
J-Mo's gotta step up. If
52:27
you look at the big plays he had last year,
52:29
you see the potential, but they've gotta find ways to
52:31
manufacture touches on a consistent basis. Otherwise,
52:33
they gotta go a different direction. Yep. So,
52:36
Coleman, yeah, Coleman, Xavier Worthy, Xavier Legette, you're hearing
52:38
all of your- That's nine receivers in my top
52:40
12. That shows you all those guys are candidates
52:42
to go in the first round. Jonathan
52:45
Brooks, we mentioned- So
52:47
after mentioning 15 players, you
52:49
finally mentioned the first running back. Yes, basically.
52:52
13, okay. He's on the board 13. But
52:54
Trey Benson, Jaylen Wright, they're the other two in my
52:57
top tier. Running back, those could be day two
52:59
draft picks that make an impact in fantasy
53:02
right away. Troy Franklin, I've seen him go
53:05
in the first round of MOCs. Roman Wilson,
53:07
I think Mel projected to Buffalo, I believe
53:09
it was in the second round. Bucky
53:11
Irving. That's
53:14
about all I got. Enter. There's, I
53:16
mean, receiver, I keep going. We're gonna get into
53:18
the fourth round and have receivers there. I love
53:21
that guy. He should have been a second round pick. So,
53:23
yeah, there's a few guys we didn't
53:25
mention there, but a lot of you. A
53:27
lot of good fantasy options are gonna come off the board
53:29
here in a couple weeks. This is exciting from a dynasty
53:32
or keeper perspective. This is one of the deeper classes from
53:34
a fantasy asset perspective. I think it's gonna be very fun
53:36
this year to look at. Lot
53:38
of names. Lot of names coming off the board. Mike,
53:40
thanks for hanging out with me, dude. Of course, it
53:42
was fun. I appreciate it. We're gonna be back next
53:45
Friday, again, potentially. We'll see what
53:47
time. We'll be here. Not really sure. The show will
53:49
be here. Who will be here? This is the
53:51
question. It's a mystery. That's why you tune
53:53
in. I'll tell you what, I will be here. I know that Daniel will
53:55
be here. Okay. I am
53:57
committed to the show. We'll see who else is gonna be here with
53:59
me. But obviously we got a lot of stuff going on
54:01
draft is happening so people are all over the place But
54:04
I appreciate you being here with me, but yeah, it's always
54:06
fun buddy Thanks for hanging out with me follow Mike on
54:08
the X at my clay NFL We love
54:10
you guys don't forget to love each other be kind
54:13
to yourself and aware Alright
54:16
right now stay cool not we'll see you that's too
54:18
hot out yet We know it's not but it's just
54:20
really good for reading today It's one of those things
54:22
one of the only things that helps prevent your skin
54:24
from getting like all Old and haggard
54:26
from the Sun all right, that's fair I mean, you know,
54:28
it's that time of the year now where it's like we
54:30
get teased with a 70 degree day I
54:33
mean it goes right back to rainy in 45. I hate that. Yeah
54:58
Oh
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