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Another fabulous episode of

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Fan Faces . It's been a while . It's been

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a while but I got a guest here , a

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repeat guest . I'm at Bangorah

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, he's in the building . He's here to educate

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us , educate the Sierra Leonean people , educate

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the world at large , educate

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Americans , you know , just to give

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us some insight on sustainability

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and renewables . And I

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thought I'd bring them back for part

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two because this is information that

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we

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, the people , want to know . Me , I

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want to know I'm super interested in the renewables

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, I'm super interested in sustainability

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, and that's because I

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come home from Salon and we come home from

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Salon and you day

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you get for a beef

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family with 10 things and they cause

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. We get electricity

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, 24-7 electricity . We

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have electricity but it's not like when you're in America

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. Electricity breaks down in

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America , takes an hour or so . They

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fix it . Electricity breaks down in

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Sierra Leone . Maybe

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you get it today , maybe you don't get it today , maybe you

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get it a month later . It all depends on

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where you live . But today we're here

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to , you know , discuss some

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things that possibly , moving

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on in the future , sierra Leone is ever growing

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, ever evolving . We're here to

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just have you

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know . People think about certain things

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and keep it in the back of their mind and

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especially with the new communities that are coming

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up , like you know , you have

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Tokyo , you have Hastings , the

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newer communities

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that are rising , we need to start

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to use , we need to start directing

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our energy towards renewable energy

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, wind turbines and stuff like that to

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grow the country's electricity

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infrastructure , because I know , with

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electricity being a stable constant

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in our lives in Sierra Leone , it

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would make for a great change in the country

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. It would make for a great improvement . And

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there's already some celebrities coming

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in , one celebrity , idris Elba

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, coming in in Sierra Leone , but we'll

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get into that a little later . But , mohamed

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, talk to the people , sure , sure

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.

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I'm very happy to be here

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again and to share my

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take on clean energy

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in Sierra Leone and generally

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on sustainability .

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So sustainability to the common person

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that doesn't know what is that ?

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So maybe I think , in

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short , when we talk about sustainability

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, we are essentially just saying

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I mean , usually

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you hear people saying sustainability

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, sustainable development . Essentially

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they are saying any development

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where you are catering for

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the current generation with

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something in mind to ensure

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that future generations

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are not deprived

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from resources . So essentially

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, in short , that is sustainable

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development .

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So ever evolving the issue

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we have in Sierra Leone . We wanted

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our independence . We got it in 1961

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. The British left us and

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we never really developed or evolved

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our infrastructure we don't have . Some

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houses don't have full plumbing , some

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houses don't have full electricity . The

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British left us with an infrastructure

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but we never added

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on to it , improved on it , because in

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most other countries your infrastructure

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is improved upon so that way when you go

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build a house , you have

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running water , you have

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indoor plumbing

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, you have electricity

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, you have power 24-7 . And

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that really has hurt us as a country

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, because now we depend

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on a Turkish ship that's

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off the coast , that we owe

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$40 million

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that we can't pay and they're not

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giving us electricity . So we got

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to figure out other ways .

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Well , it's interesting to also

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understand the background of

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energy . There is a huge correlation

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between quality of life and

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energy . So when we talk about

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energy , we should be talking about electricity

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and the other types of energy

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that we depend on . If

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you check here , for

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example , my average

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monthly bill sorry

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, not the bill , my monthly

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electricity consumption is like 150

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kilowatt hour . I

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will tell you this . According to the World

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Bank , in Sierra Leone the average for

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a typical home , the entire home , is like

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five kilowatts . So

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you can see this huge correlation , because

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here I do not have the option to

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probably turn off

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my freezer or to have life .

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No , you have that option . It's not

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something that's in your mind . There's

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power available . Why am I going to turn that off ? Let's

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keep it running .

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Yeah , sure . So there is this huge correlation

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between a very strong one , between

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the amount of energy you need

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to survive and the quality

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of your life . So

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I guess , when you talk about infrastructure

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, that the bridges , like

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, gave us the left-out . They

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left out something , but then

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we have not been able to build up on it . We

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have to take a check on that . How

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much energy do you think the average

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person in Sierra Leone will actually need ? Why

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do we need to build on infrastructure

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? Why do we need to have the

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grid extended to every house in

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Sierra Leone ? You have to

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think about all of that .

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You spoke about quality of life . Have

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you ever been to a country besides Sierra Leone

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where a hospital is not open

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when you need it ?

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No , actually .

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So if you have electricity in a hospital

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, it goes a long way into saving

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people's lives . You're not just a patient

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sitting in the dark and you're like , oh , this is life as

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I know it . You are a person

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that's being taken care of

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and they could see , and they can help , because

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there's power running 24-7

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, all the necessary equipment to take care

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of your life , to make sure that

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for make sure , say you

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, quality of life , the

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way you want to live and the

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things that you need for keeping you

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alive they keep you alive and then they work

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properly . So electricity

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right now , salomon , you

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say now 5 kilowatts hours , yeah

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, like on average . On average , so let's

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say you get 24-7 electricity

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without interruption , do you think

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that consumption will go up or go down

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?

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Before I answer your question , I

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want to play both

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sides in this conversation , like the sides

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of my background in power systems

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in junior high and now I do sustainability

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In power systems

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. We also need to understand energy

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is expensive . Infrastructure

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is expensive , so

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when they build like a transmission

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line and for making it last for 50 years

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, so when that person

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puts money for last for 50 years and

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so because it is very , very expensive

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. When somebody invests

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in energy project if I expect , say , people

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are ready for use , but if you go

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to the average home in Salomon right now , somebody

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will prefer for cook with gas or

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people will prefer for cook with coal Most

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of them activities there . They

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will use something we need .

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We don't need electricity , we

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don't need electricity I

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get what you , they say , but make an interject

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. You know what to make . People in luck for order

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from Amazon Make

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a lot Convenience . Yes , you

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know how much they charge for order on Amazon For

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things they are taking . Buy something for $2

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, $3 . And eventually

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they raise the price them up . We

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didn't increase the price them . We

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not left them . You know what to make . We not left them Because

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of the COVID-19 . Exactly you see , don't

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naios ? You see , you

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go to the app on Amazon . You see , I

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want this . I want that you

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click , click or that puts on a e-bag and

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then you check out , and then two days

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later , if you're an Amazon Prime member if

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you're an Amazon Prime member . Two

8:25

days later , three days later , the package

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is at your front door . All you have to do

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is open that front door , open your demote

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, take them and you know

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you get what you need . So now

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, people and we have to use gas , the people

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that we don't get on so much , then go use coal

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. The people that we don't get on so much , then

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go use wood paper , whatever they need

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for do we

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, you know , cause these people don't have the

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ways and means that we have here . But

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if there's another way , an easier way , which

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is you have your kitchen inside

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your house , you have your

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stove , all you gotta do is click

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, turn it's on . You have

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instantaneous warm water , instantaneous

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warm food . Would you not use

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that ?

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Of course you would , but okay . So

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, as I say , I want to play both sides

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. Play both sides the sustainability part

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, where I mean everybody forgets clean

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energy or so , and then the power

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systems background right , where I mean we talk

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about infrastructure and everything

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. So the only thing about sustainability

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you get like three components

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in hand right . One in our society

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, like people dealing with people , to

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the environment . Right , that means

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the resourceful we use inside the commode

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. If we use a past mark , it affects

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in generation after we , right

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. And then you get the economics of

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it , right , how much it costs to invest

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these resources for serve people , them right

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. If you check Salon , we

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get constraints for all of them here

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. Right , we're constraints for the economics

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, we're constraints for even the resources People

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and they say Salon , get Baku San , baku

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San . But how much it costs you for convert

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solar , like the average cost for

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major install solar like ours , how much we play both

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For that upfront cost right

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, Right , independent side .

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That money they come off .

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Yeah , and then on infrastructure

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wise right . If governments today

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choose for say , okay , I focus all major

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sources on building , extending

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the grid , building like a power plant

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and things like that . How

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much of we current projects we

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forgot to social issues them could

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be diverted to that , and how much complain

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people and go get you understand

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. So it's like something in

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sustainability we call like a wicked problem

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. Right , you have to solve one thing , another

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thing , depend on that thing , and then you pull

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up . You have to it's okay , man , solve this too

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, and then another one , the pull up . So it's a

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wicked problem . That for solar it

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takes a lot of like a progressing

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place .

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Well , it's the natural

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domino effect in life . Every

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action has a consequence , good or bad

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. So if you say

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the upfront cost

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of solar , you say

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okay , for me you put basic

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solar for cover , you refrigerate

11:16

, you freezer . You say okay , that's

11:18

50 million leons or

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100

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million leons , okay . You say okay

11:25

, I'll invest this money because I know in turn

11:27

what this will bring for me . It will

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give me way from

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a small market vendor I didn't have

11:34

a lovely , I didn't have a pencelle . I can

11:36

put some drinks , then put me what I didn't do . I

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know they don't turn on the block , but they had that

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sun . But they work . I don't know

11:42

, I drink them . I go buy drinks , then go

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maintain , then go maintain past all man

11:47

and whenever somebody come by they don't know , then they go

11:49

, you know , say me on the coldest and

11:51

they quench the people in thoughts . So people

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will come back to me . So are

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you willing to make that investment up front ? Can

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you afford to make that investment ? And

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if you can't , is

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there somebody you can ask to help you make that investment

12:04

?

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Yeah , sure . So when

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, historically , did

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I this like series of

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activities you can connect , for

12:13

sure , how people don't solve

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energy issues as like

12:17

access to energy or access to electricity

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, go to Dubai ? Right , of

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course , that's one , but one way

12:24

is to just sacrifice

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part of what you can benefit now . Sacrifice

12:31

part of what you could benefit

12:33

now for the long term , right

12:35

. Salomon Sabi .

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Donde , yes , no , I'll give

12:38

you an example , because all you say is what

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you get from me now , buddy , what do you have from me right

12:43

now ? Give me now , now .

12:44

Like I want all of it right . I

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can give you an example One thing

12:48

we , anybody , would do , like

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clean energy , whether or not solar , whether or not , I

12:52

mean , are they use solar ? Because they come on a salon ? They

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come on for sure .

12:56

Nine weeks Sabi .

12:56

Whether or not solar , one thing we can do for convince

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somebody . If you get a business let's say you run

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generator , you're the one five liters

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per day . If you check that five liters

13:05

they'll make us say for the one year you

13:08

cost you 10 million lions on

13:10

just on fuel , this not include the cost

13:13

of your generator . Just on the fuel

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right , it's where you're born . So once you

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wake , where people are waiting to install solar

13:19

for do or waiting in the practice

13:21

, not that then they will take

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the cost of your current

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energy consumption

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for the one year , like your fuel cost , and

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they will say , okay , if you continue

13:33

for spend the same money , if

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we convert that money , they will put up a solar and

13:38

so it will cost you three days as of today following

13:41

install this solar . But then the good thing

13:43

that in the next three , four

13:45

years you the

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break even we are in . After that three years

13:49

as you energy expenses

13:51

, they become almost zero , just

13:54

profit .

13:54

Yeah , now I mean for say , just profit .

13:57

So this , not just one thing . We one

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way I can convince people

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when it comes to energy , when you scale

14:04

this up , let's say for the entire country , if

14:06

government for do down the mid sale , it

14:09

need for cut , cut small , small

14:11

budget them , pinch

14:14

here , pinch here , and then we can together

14:16

and say , okay , make , we make

14:18

will build the next big plant . I

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will tell you one story when I go home 2020

14:22

, I think I had a

14:24

successful job and the one that I

14:26

was forced to them it's a and

14:29

EGTC . Is it EGTC ?

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I forget the one that we generate , the

14:34

only one that women savvy boss my answer .

14:36

Yeah , and I used to be it . And

14:38

I think EGTC also not only generate

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or show . Okay , yeah , when I go

14:42

, I meet with one of the

14:45

technical directors , they tell me

14:47

, say , saloon , as we speak , we

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don't get no generation plans , apart from

14:51

the ideal we

14:55

rely on . Then car power ship

14:57

them for supply the city

14:59

specifically .

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So essentially we want some parts of the city , not

15:02

all parts of the city . Keep that in mind , if you get

15:04

in the . West side . Yeah you're

15:07

good to go if you're on the east side . God bless

15:09

you .

15:09

Yeah , yeah , yeah . So it come

15:11

on for make somebody go out with Inogelite

15:15

Bobby young with a good

15:17

, with a good 30 days without light

15:19

and we enable get slightly behind .

15:20

I got it for them because that if Austin , danny don't

15:22

delight and then come for like a five , ten minutes

15:24

, you don't go back . Yes .

15:26

But , but then we've understand , like the overall

15:28

System winning for change . You've

15:30

got all and what's the change ? I mean convert

15:33

, like the redirection of of

15:35

budget , right , yeah , from whether

15:38

it's education , all other

15:40

pada , as I seen , a weekend problem , right as we

15:42

pull , come on a year with a constraint down a

15:44

certain day for focus now , but

15:46

then we very fortunate salon , of

15:48

course , on the echo , as echo , as galaking , entire

15:51

plan for for

15:53

the Considering our stuff , okay

15:56

, and one of the mandate with salon , get by

15:58

Um to 2030 . Now

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, for make sure , see the grid

16:02

at least extend to 92 percent

16:05

of every single unit , not to just salon on

16:07

America .

16:08

President Barack Obama and I input

16:10

stand a light up Africa . I shall

16:12

say , as the first African president

16:14

, when American in

16:16

Decide , say 2008 , today in Lexham

16:18

, and it will visit me , motherland . Yeah

16:21

right in go day that Kenya

16:23

nothing say this place

16:25

that go well , something Kenya no dark

16:27

make a note of but , Africa

16:31

that go ? Where do you blame any land

16:33

? I can't see nothing . So

16:35

in decide , say in

16:37

one for light up Africa , yeah , so it

16:39

puts that implementation in place and that

16:42

money they aside cause . Then

16:44

the key is to Africa . Every

16:47

year , every year also , we then make them

16:49

budgets down the day , parts of the budget

16:52

for g8 to Africa and part of the

16:54

budget day die a day Now

16:56

for light up Africa . So

16:58

to that Represent , to

17:00

that build a , and I'm only day with him , set

17:02

aside Nine makes alone

17:05

and echo us get the opportunity for

17:07

at least 92 percent , but hopefully

17:09

we down the right path and All

17:12

the new economy , all the new Communities

17:14

, everything they make down it for be a

17:16

staple part of the infrastructure . Because

17:18

you know , therefore , think I'm again , you know

17:20

, therefore struggle again . You know , say what a bill

17:23

this also I get for preparing

17:25

for connect light . I can't like okay .

17:27

Well , I glad you bring that me up

17:29

right . Maybe make us understand how energy

17:32

to work . Nassalon , right , we

17:34

get like the one there with the generate

17:36

the energy and they'll get one . We get to

17:38

the transmission system and

17:40

and we get the distribution system , the

17:43

easy parts pattern , all not for generate

17:45

or for distribute . The most

17:47

expensive partner for transmits the

17:49

power . We get one of the oldest transmission

17:52

network .

17:54

We know If

17:58

the infrastructure , when the beach is left , we

18:00

are left with us on day .

18:01

Yeah , so . So the difference , like some

18:04

of them , country , they like you know , no , no , even

18:06

good , country level , like states level , new

18:08

York , for example , get

18:10

to it and call the New York independent

18:12

Service provider

18:15

, so okay , like NY , is something

18:17

like a service operator . Yeah , so

18:19

then , not like a desire , not

18:21

like the facilitates , buy

18:23

and sell of electricity , mm-hmm . What then

18:26

? The buy from people already generate electricity

18:28

, like different company , the way Some

18:31

, and they use hydro , some under use solar

18:33

they don't want to use In generator

18:35

for cell to the grid , yeah right , then

18:38

they control , like the grid , the transmission

18:40

line distribution . But Salon

18:42

, we just get one one , like one entity

18:45

where they all get some direction to

18:47

the government , government 19 charge of them

18:49

, right , so you see , so there

18:51

is no that , not

18:54

no delay , not no delay . Independence

18:56

, wearing one body . Go all your

18:58

post responsible , because what I generate

19:00

, essentially the same , the only other

19:02

, the same Ministry of Energy will

19:05

, like 90 , control them All , right , but

19:07

so that they mean , say , before

19:10

the Expecting they will get for do it

19:13

something and before the expect

19:15

solution for the week outside the grid

19:17

, like them in the grid , them then

19:19

solar , wouldn't it ? If you go to my checkerites

19:22

now go to my bad junction . You see solar . Then

19:24

it is the other part of we central grid

19:26

, right ? So then just they'll be upgraded

19:29

by small , small company there . And then

19:31

company need the only survive . Based on

19:33

that , more about junction . If example

19:35

, how much people able accept

19:37

see them for use electricity now .

19:41

Manne get TV now , so you know .

19:43

Yeah , so an interesting part we go

19:45

. If you go check the entire friend now , then

19:47

try the entire day at least two

19:50

or three times more than waiting

19:52

people in Africa to own the pay right

19:54

, because that's more company and the government will

19:56

get the extra money if I subsidize

19:59

Electricity , yeah , yeah

20:01

. So if we take all of this , come back

20:03

to To the idea of sustainability

20:05

means see , we fall before

20:08

. Be careful how we , the First

20:10

people , and for use clean energy . Example

20:12

, because if I believe

20:14

that some village and Miss more

20:17

generator in a study , enough

20:19

or it's efficient for giving me light

20:21

, make a continued

20:23

that one . If us , you understand right

20:25

, because most likely because

20:27

even the small , small mini group retorts

20:30

. And when they can't be , then again like

20:32

some commitment with government saying I

20:34

can't build this , I don't go find investors

20:36

, them , we're investing this project and this project

20:38

for take 20 years for make a repeat

20:40

, them back , right . So if tomorrow

20:42

, government just wake up , government , okay

20:44

, the , this president's can be

20:46

seen now at extended grid all side . What's

20:49

in the apple ? Govind would be for pay , in

20:52

the most likely case , most of this , most more

20:54

company , and because government , the previous government

20:56

or whichever meeting child we don't agree

20:58

, see , I'll make a contract , yeah , so

21:00

you see , I . So sustainability

21:03

and and , and and the

21:05

and the availability of resources

21:07

, whether natural or financial , they

21:10

need for go like on and on and on

21:12

yeah , okay , well

21:14

, that's great .

21:15

So For who now ? People that

21:17

way , they use charcoal . If electricity

21:20

come on our way Now try for

21:22

combat small , small . You don't need for be at full

21:24

speed , because if food tastes better , some

21:26

10 and a which charcoal that's also

21:29

. You know the gas Born

21:31

as the way they came by or the electricity

21:33

way , thank you . So plunder , so that's

21:35

understandable . But uh , wind

21:39

turbines , we

21:42

not get one nasalon , but we get

21:44

them beaches , them Boku . Yes

21:46

, so waiting

21:48

, you think , say because they say one

21:51

wind turbine can power up

21:53

a whole town . Yeah , so

21:55

waiting , you think , say

21:57

you know that the benefits of

21:59

made them wind come , then wind turbines , then

22:01

they nasalon , either

22:04

at the rural side or free town

22:06

.

22:06

Yeah , so , so , so , and I

22:09

know some company right now , even the

22:11

one for is

22:13

it born to .

22:13

Shabu Island .

22:14

Shabu Island yes then they consider for use wind

22:16

, right . Of course , when you

22:18

consider technology , you have to consider

22:21

the resource available . Yeah , that area

22:23

, salon , one of the resource . Students will

22:25

get plenty and water , yes , I

22:28

do . Now the anime . If you check the 2015

22:31

energy plan , we

22:33

supposed to get about almost 90%

22:36

, like it is 7.6% , of

22:38

the future energy from Ido

22:41

. We got plenty water , yeah

22:43

, but wind , and I'm very

22:45

sure how much wind we get , but

22:47

I'm sure , like I think it's called

22:49

up to post-energize , right , I should

22:51

say they don't do the efficiency study and they

22:53

understand , say , by Shabu Island wind

22:56

.

22:56

Well , the facts of the matter is all

22:58

, then , new communities

23:01

are waiting to make . All the new communities

23:03

that there are . People are building houses

23:05

. They're closer to the beach areas

23:08

. Yeah , my father has a house

23:10

around the Tokyo area

23:12

and there's a lots

23:15

of winds , lots of high winds

23:17

over there . Yeah , you know you could put a wind

23:19

turbine and if you put it there it

23:21

could power up that whole

23:23

new community that's being built . So there's

23:26

, I feel like the people

23:28

that are building that are coming from overseas , you're building

23:30

, which you should

23:32

consider something like that , because if

23:34

you're near the beach , you can either go wind

23:36

turbine or you could go solar , solar

23:39

, and they say sometimes , if you

23:41

use too much solar , then

23:43

the countries that are near

23:46

the sun will turn into the

23:49

Amazon's , because now it

23:51

will be well , it

23:53

will block the sun from hitting you

23:57

.

23:58

That's a very big myth in

24:00

itself right , because when we make , a

24:02

start

24:05

with the solar part , because in the last you mentioned

24:07

when Sunday for them , for the solar technology

24:09

. If you observe solar get blue

24:11

, blue coating . The reason for

24:13

that the main component for any

24:16

solar panel is silicon

24:18

. Silicone in the

24:20

emit lights past mark like it is shine past

24:22

mark right . So , then the quota which

24:24

, like some night , hits something wouldn't

24:26

make it blue , wouldn't make you know , wouldn't

24:29

make it like you know . Send the lights back for

24:31

go when they come inside . Yeah , when they

24:33

come inside . And

24:37

when they compare the size of the of the earth

24:39

right and the size of the sun right

24:41

, their size of the earth so small

24:43

that even if you cover the

24:45

entire earth , I don't think

24:48

they affect the solar panels . Yeah , you

24:50

know the affect , like I

24:52

don't know how that idea did it , but

24:55

you know , getting no major

24:57

environmental effect

25:00

on the earth .

25:02

But what's the name of the case ? If you cover the whole

25:04

Sahara desert with solar panels , you

25:06

know power , the entire world . Yes , yes

25:08

, and I mean , if you

25:10

do the math , that's supposed

25:12

to be true , but then over time , because

25:15

you do Dandi , because

25:17

you do Dandi the

25:19

what's it called ? The land ? They become

25:21

more fertile because , in cover

25:23

, Cover .

25:24

But then what about the house

25:26

? Already , like you , just put it on top of

25:28

the house , right , yeah , become a rooftop . Yeah

25:30

, yeah , and Elon Musk , yes

25:33

, yes . Well , now the one advantage and

25:35

the way solar gets over other clean

25:37

energy technologies like wind , for example

25:39

, if you put a wind turbine

25:41

, I am most likely pushing a

25:44

farm around it because they

25:46

can get noise . Also , you need to put a

25:48

near , which are people in the ? I make

25:50

what you mentioned seeing at the beach when

25:52

wind turbine the tone people

25:54

are not able to sleep around , like it can be very noisy

25:57

, okay , and I have a lot of concerns

25:59

about even then they kill both

26:01

them , right , but of course , because

26:03

fly blind

26:05

. Yes , so that's the put back to the

26:07

whole idea of sustainability , like the three

26:09

components right , the people

26:12

, environment and resources . And

26:14

the basis . With the basis

26:16

we then getting in the team up on

26:18

, when I did have a say , any resource

26:21

we are available . If I will use

26:23

a now right and then just

26:25

say it's sufficient for people in the future

26:27

, just fear of wanting this

26:30

, not learning for me as well as learning

26:32

for you .

26:32

I'm here to learn from somebody that

26:34

knows more than me and I'm here

26:37

to give you this information and give you this opportunity

26:39

to learn this information , because it

26:41

is invaluable information

26:43

for you to learn today , learn for tomorrow

26:46

, pass it on to somebody and don't tell

26:48

stories that

26:51

really did you heard from

26:53

he say , she say , but it's

26:55

directly from a source that that's

26:58

viable and reliable . This

27:01

is an opportunity for everybody to learn

27:03

to feed your mind , feed your

27:05

soul and , like

27:07

me , talking about wind turbines , I don't know much about

27:09

them , but I'm being corrected , I'm

27:11

being educated . That's completely fine . That's

27:14

why we're here to learn and be educated

27:16

. Sure , sure . So

27:19

I

27:22

do really believe if there's

27:24

light 24 , seven , sierra Leone it

27:26

will change the economy

27:28

tremendously . Definitely , because

27:30

If you are

27:32

a car mechanic at

27:35

seven o'clock , I'm done . You

27:37

don't have light in your shop , so

27:39

you're done . But if your car mechanic

27:41

and you want to make extra money or you want

27:43

to keep your garage open 24 , seven for emergency

27:45

services , you can keep your shop

27:47

open . Yeah , somebody could be working

27:49

in there in case somebody wakes down . Yeah

27:52

, and you could station

27:54

yourself like a franchise have wanted

27:56

every Tolstop . Yeah

27:59

, and you know , once people get

28:01

there to get the car stowed to you , to

28:03

your shop . Yeah you

28:05

can take your things .

28:06

Yeah , I think I can add to that we're

28:08

. One of the first communities that we connected

28:10

was around the local

28:13

massama community . Right , I

28:15

remember we went there like I think

28:18

seven months after , like to to

28:20

connect to another community that was not very

28:22

far from local massama

28:24

and and the chiefs , like the

28:27

elders in the communities you are telling us how

28:29

They've seen like a lot of young

28:31

people coming from those small villages

28:34

like to live , like to stay there because

28:36

there was like Electricity , even

28:38

though it was not for 24 hours , sometimes

28:41

maybe from 15 hours or so to 15

28:43

hours as playing a young people right

28:46

yeah . And they saw like a huge

28:48

increase in the number

28:50

of passes . For how

28:52

do you call it ? The ? For the becky

28:54

exam , like a huge increase because

28:56

these kids they used

28:59

to study , like they go to study camps

29:01

and there was electricity , even though

29:03

you could argue that . But it's

29:05

so easy , like for communities to

29:07

to connect , like , like the dots , like access

29:09

to electricity and and and

29:12

quality of life .

29:13

Yeah , so I mean , that's

29:15

great for everybody , even

29:18

especially in the village , is also where you're

29:20

like oh , you know , I want to study

29:22

, but maybe I don't have kerosene

29:24

or maybe Whoever it

29:26

was supposed to bring the kerosene for my lamp

29:28

did not come to town today , so

29:31

I got to wait a couple , I got away a couple

29:33

of days to get my stuff together before

29:35

I can study for a certain exam , and

29:37

that's not fair to people

29:39

. To get the education you need , you

29:41

need to get education so you could build a

29:43

proper infrastructure , and Proper

29:46

infrastructure leads to ever evolving

29:48

town , every evolving country

29:50

, ever evolving Society

29:53

, because the people that are getting

29:56

education are gonna come and improve that

29:59

town . Sure , that country they're not gonna

30:01

be like okay , I like to go up there , I'm out

30:03

now , like you take yourself and you go to

30:05

New York City and that's that . So

30:08

you know , this is an opportunity

30:10

for the government of Sierra Leone

30:12

, the people that are building

30:14

in the new communities . Take advantage

30:16

of green

30:19

technologies , renewables , to improve

30:22

your community as far as

30:24

electricity goes and make sure that Everybody

30:28

I mean have people come

30:30

together . That way you could create

30:32

enough energy to be able to we sell

30:35

back to the powers that be , instead of

30:37

thinking about oh , we owe the

30:39

Turkish company 40 million , will

30:41

never be able to pay that , so we won't pay

30:43

it . Either they forgive our debt or

30:45

they don't . We don't care . You

30:47

don't want to be in that situation . You

30:49

want to have you

30:51

, don't you ? You want to evolve to the point

30:53

where where they left you . The

30:56

next time they come , five years , ten years from now

30:58

, when they come , it's not where

31:00

they met you and you feel very

31:02

good about you . Feel very good about the way

31:04

things are because you've developed so much

31:07

and compare In

31:10

partnership with that , plumbing as well

31:12

. We need to the country

31:14

of Sierra Leone needs , like with the

31:16

new communities , put rules and

31:18

regulations in place to be able

31:20

to have indoor plumbing good indoor

31:23

plumbing , not just . You know

31:25

, I have a flush toilet . Just

31:27

because and it's a really nasty

31:29

and it's a flush

31:31

toilet's not supposed to look black at all

31:34

you

31:36

use of , you clean them and if you

31:38

have running water , that kind of helps

31:40

with the cleaning . They're not supposed to be . You know

31:42

the way they are . But People

31:45

are like oh , you know , this

31:47

is my flush toilet , I have indoor plumbing

31:49

. Do you really ? Because if your toilet

31:51

isn't clean , you don't have clean water

31:53

, you don't have electricity , you don't even know what

31:55

you're sitting on , yeah , and

31:57

you're gonna get sick and you don't know how come you're

31:59

sick . It's not the devil , it's

32:02

cleanliness . Yeah , it's not having electricity

32:04

to be able to see , to

32:07

be able to constantly see where you're at and what's

32:09

going on with you . But , uh , shabra

32:13

Island is gonna start booming

32:15

and I'm sure people are gonna want to move there , because

32:17

if you have a place in Sierra Leone With 24

32:20

7 electricity if they could make that

32:22

possible it's

32:24

gonna be the new booming , a booming

32:26

part of town and everybody that's

32:29

developed or that wants to develop

32:31

is gonna go over there . Whatever

32:33

, whether it's businesses , hospitals

32:35

, restaurants it's gonna be the next place

32:37

to be and Idris Elba

32:39

, with the help of the government , is gonna

32:41

hopefully go far . But also

32:44

, stop holding the diaspora's

32:46

hand underwater . When we come

32:48

, then we want to develop . Don't

32:51

say , well , what do you have

32:53

now for me , right now , today ?

32:55

I think I was going to ask how was

32:57

your experience ? I was the experience

32:59

with , I mean , I mean not it's

33:01

very with with with electricity

33:03

, let's okay .

33:05

So I had two opportunities

33:07

with the electric city . While I was in Freetown I

33:10

stayed in my aunt's house . They have

33:12

solar , they have at , they have

33:14

at the cables , so

33:17

During the day , if

33:19

there's light , you could have at

33:21

sunlight , and at night , if there isn't

33:23

light , the solar panels are charged

33:25

up enough , the batteries are charged up enough , so

33:27

you free to be able to use solar . But I didn't have

33:29

enough electricity all the time at the house

33:31

, because sometimes we could be

33:33

using the solar all day because electricity

33:35

is not coming through . So

33:37

that destroys the point of the solar , the

33:40

solar so . But when I went

33:42

over to my father's house , the solar panels are

33:44

new Light 24-7

33:46

. Oh so so I was just like

33:48

oh , this is great , this is what it feels like to be able

33:50

to charge your phone at 100% . I was never

33:52

able to really charge my phone at a hundred percent

33:54

all the time when I when I'm

33:57

at the other house , because maybe

33:59

you have power , maybe you don't , maybe

34:01

the solar is working or

34:03

if it's been overworked , so we got it has

34:06

to go off for the night . Wow . So

34:08

that was my experience with electricity , and I

34:11

mean for me coming from here

34:13

, america , it's pretty

34:16

annoying To know that you can't

34:18

charge your phone like you want to , to know that you

34:20

can't watch TV If you just don't feel

34:22

like going out like you want to , because you could be

34:24

watching TV and all sudden yeah

34:26

, powers out , so it's a

34:28

family house .

34:29

If you have the opportunity to invest in

34:31

like that in the in the energy

34:33

sector , which part

34:35

of the energy sector would

34:37

?

34:37

you invest . I'd like to get a lot

34:40

. I'd like to get a solar farm and

34:43

we sell back , so that way

34:45

I could be a supplier , so

34:48

that to make sure that people have power . Okay

34:50

, that's what I'd like to do . They do that in America

34:53

as well . There's people with solar panels in their

34:55

houses , or , like Elon Musk

34:57

and Tesla , they have solar panel roof . Yeah

34:59

oops , and they

35:01

could fill your whole roof all filled

35:04

with solar panels .

35:05

So so I say roll , that

35:07

policy will have to play like in that context

35:10

, because I do not think currently

35:12

you can sell to the grid For me a

35:14

roof right in .

35:15

Sierra Leone ? No , I'm sure .

35:17

Yeah , but so there is a rule there that policy will

35:20

have to play . But I think

35:22

in the long run it's always

35:24

a very small country . I'm sure

35:26

it is if collectively people

35:28

are able to do that . If

35:30

I have the wheel , if I have

35:32

the wheel right now , I'll

35:35

push for this policy that every

35:37

new like building . New

35:40

community should have like , like

35:43

they should , they should build their roof

35:46

so that it can accommodate solar . At

35:50

least , even if you do not install the solar

35:52

, your roof should be fit to accommodate

35:54

solar . Yes , yes , yeah

35:56

.

35:57

I think that is just one very do

35:59

that and make it possible for people to

36:01

be able to resell back into the grid , and

36:04

then that way , yeah , you're not like , oh

36:06

, I'm $40 million in debt and

36:08

yeah , I can't pay it and I don't want to pay it , and that's , that's debt

36:10

you can actually Distribute

36:15

it to people , right ?

36:16

Yeah , you give people subsidy that . If you are , if

36:18

you install like a one Kilowatt

36:21

system , you have this subsidy

36:24

. Yeah , we will probably exempt you from paying Distax

36:27

, like your income tax , like things that

36:29

you are not taking money from the pocket of people , which

36:32

are just reducing how much you take from

36:34

people .

36:35

I mean that'd be a great idea . Moving forward , yeah

36:39

, the country should be ever evolving

36:42

. It's not where they left you Not to aside and meet you . Yeah

36:44

, waiting and give . When don't you say

36:46

hi , don't don't know . That's the way we

36:48

give me , try , they don't don't know . Yeah

36:50

, but what you do for make sure , say

36:53

that's he did not . Don't . What you do for , make sure , what

36:55

did you do to make sure that progress is everlasting

36:57

To the point where you could pass

37:00

it on to somebody else and they're like , oh , let

37:03

me improve on it , because if I

37:05

don't improve on it , the future of whoever I am , the future of whoever I

37:07

leave behind , they don't have one . So

37:10

that's an opportunity . But people , I

37:14

appreciate you for being here today . Informative

37:17

conversation . I want

37:19

, I want the people of Sierra Leone

37:21

for Savise Renewable

37:24

energy , not the way for go . Really

37:26

, in my own opinion , are the continent

37:29

of west Africa , not the continent of Africa . Well

37:31

, I will say west Africa , because west Africa

37:34

nine for some of the countries or

37:36

not gets dying for structure day , saying

37:38

you know , be able Serve

37:41

power to everybody , like how we want

37:43

, forget 24 , 7 electricity

37:45

. So if you not get the opportunity there

37:47

, look into renewables

37:50

, all the new communities that we need to be

37:52

looking to renewable energy sources and

37:55

go take . We look for and go take we a

37:57

long way and we go build and we

37:59

go improve . And it

38:01

only take one thing For

38:04

sure improvement . Because we do

38:06

that one thing , they somebody else will do something else

38:08

for improve power , hopefully , and

38:10

then the next man , then the next man by the time you know

38:12

it , 2025 years later , I

38:14

come back and a different country . They meet

38:16

because of that one initiative

38:19

. They way somebody take that one thought that

38:21

somebody had that . Uh , I

38:24

wanted to improve . So

38:26

Sierra Leone people keep that in mind . But

38:28

this is just for educational purposes , so

38:31

that you guys know and I get

38:33

myself . I feel like I'm a little bit educated

38:36

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38:38

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38:41

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