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Tuesday in New York City one

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day before the New York

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Rangers embark on game one of the

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Eastern Conference Finals. Against the Florida

2:00

Panthers more on that later. We got a lot to

2:03

get to it on everything today Including

2:05

Aaron Rodgers twirling a football around at

2:07

OTAs Francisco Lindor has

2:09

pissed off Met fans and

2:11

any concern you may have off of

2:14

clay Holmes being human last night But

2:16

to my friends who are Nick fans my favorite

2:19

fan base in New York City I

2:21

ask you a question that Robert Sala once

2:23

famously asked. It's a great question and that's

2:26

now what? Now what I

2:28

know you were mad at me yesterday We move on from

2:30

that the Knicks season is over whether

2:32

you're happy about it said about it.

2:35

Excuse it It doesn't matter anymore. Now

2:37

it's the offseason and it's a very

2:39

very intriguing offseason It's an offseason where

2:41

the New York Knicks have to me

2:43

to distinct off Option

2:46

number one and I understand both sides of

2:48

this option Number one is the run of

2:50

background the guys who say you know what? We

2:53

never really had a chance to

2:55

see right run it back

2:57

too many injuries too many circumstances It didn't

3:00

allow us to be at our best. Let's

3:02

see it again. I kind of feel that

3:04

way about Julius Randall I know a lot of people want to

3:06

get rid of Julius Randall They feel

3:08

like they're better off without him. Look how far

3:10

we look what we did without him, right? But

3:12

there's still a part of me at least and

3:14

I think probably a handful of knit fans that

3:16

are saying Julius Randall is a

3:18

good player now if you integrate him

3:21

into what exact what just happened, maybe

3:23

there's more bully ball Maybe there's more

3:25

depth. Maybe there's more opportunities to get

3:27

pushed farther and I still believe that

3:29

I think there you can be of

3:31

two minds with Julius Randall one great

3:33

regular season player and he's gonna fail

3:35

in the postseason or Man,

3:38

maybe with this right group of players. Yeah,

3:40

he will succeed. Yeah, I post season. I

3:43

think that's what I choose to believe I

3:45

think that we have graduated from the world

3:47

of Julius Randall can't be on this team

3:50

Into the area of if Julius

3:53

Randall who's got the most appealing

3:55

tradable contract on this team of

3:58

Someone I'm willing to trade Yeah, cuz

4:00

you're not trading Jaylen Brunson rightfully so then

4:02

let me see what's out there Let me see

4:05

if I can improve this roster Let me

4:07

see if I could pick it up a notch

4:09

because the other big factor attached to Julius is

4:11

that he has an opt-out At the end

4:13

of next year. Yep, the Knicks have

4:15

an ability to extend them actually this summer They're

4:17

not going to it wouldn't be smart to and

4:20

I don't think they're ever gonna extend them at

4:22

the end of next year When they're gonna have

4:24

to pay him a lot more than who he's

4:26

making on his current contract So it's not just

4:28

I want to trade Julius Randall. It's hey if

4:30

he's not gonna be on this team long-term Can

4:33

I look outside outside my NBA window and

4:35

find an upgrade? So let's play a game

4:37

ladies and gentlemen because one option is run

4:39

it back and I totally see that side

4:41

Option number two is can I get better?

4:44

So I've got a bunch of names. I'm

4:46

gonna throw these names at you I'm gonna throw

4:48

the names at the audience I want a yay

4:50

or nay on even pursuing the player Okay, if

4:53

you want to pursue the player we can get

4:55

into details on how you make it happen and

4:57

what it would do for The team, but I

4:59

got a lot of names. Are you

5:01

guys ready? We're always ready.

5:04

Have you feeling terrible welcome back.

5:06

Thanks. Hey, how's that red? I

5:08

treat you awful Archer shot at

5:10

the plate. Yeah, you're nay though on NBA players that could be

5:12

members of the New York next I put it right up there

5:14

with the first time I got laid Here

5:19

we go player number one now, you know where I

5:21

stand on this guy Paul

5:24

George Yeah, you're nay Wait,

5:27

this whole way hard. Let me let me back up a

5:29

sec Are we taking into account what we have to give

5:32

up to get this guy? No, no, not yet First

5:34

step is do you want to pursue the guy? Okay,

5:36

and if the answer is yes, we could explore what

5:38

it takes I'm gonna say yes, you're in trick you

5:40

giving a yeah, I'm giving the yay you give it

5:42

a yay Luke you're in for the only George. No,

5:44

no. No, I'm not interested Wow

5:48

Check it right off the top nah

5:50

Okay, so for this

5:53

to happen one is

5:55

option that won't happen, which is Paul George is a

5:57

free agent He opts out and he signs for less

5:59

than one what he's worth because he so wants

6:01

to be in New York City. That's not gonna

6:03

happen though. So option number two is opt-in

6:06

and trade. And the opt-in and

6:08

trade would mean the LA Clippers are willing to

6:10

orchestrate it, and it would mean the Knicks would

6:12

be willing to give up what it takes. And

6:14

what it would take is Julius Randall, what it

6:17

would take is Mitchell Robinson, and what it would

6:19

take is probably a, maybe

6:22

two of your collections in first round

6:24

picks. That's what it would take to

6:26

add Paul George. And the collections

6:29

in first round picks are just

6:31

not appealing to most people. So if someone's gonna take

6:33

them, take those picks along

6:36

with Julius Randall, I would say yes, and Mitchell

6:38

Robinson. I agree, I would say yes. I agree,

6:40

I think that makes the Knicks better. And I

6:42

think that is where the running it back crew,

6:45

I would disagree with you. I think you are

6:47

a better team if you can add Paul George

6:49

in a deal for Julius Randall, Mitchell Robinson, and

6:51

let's say one or two first round picks. So

6:54

two of us are here, Lougie Sesnae. You ready

6:56

for guy number two? Yes, Spida, Donovan

6:58

Mitchell. Yeah, your name. Nay.

7:00

Nay, Lougie. Nay. Wow.

7:03

No, double nay. Double nay. Okay. I

7:06

worry about defense. I mean, we just saw the Indiana Patriots.

7:08

Two undersized guards, I understand. Right, we just saw the Indiana

7:10

Patriots score 130 points and

7:13

shoot 70%, basically. The last thing we need

7:15

is a back court that's tiny.

7:17

I actually agree with you. I think Donovan

7:19

Mitchell is a wonderful player. I

7:21

think that right now, considering the step that

7:23

Jaylen Brunson just took this past season, I

7:25

don't think he makes the same sense that

7:27

in theory he may have made a year

7:30

or two ago. So I am a universal nay

7:32

on Donovan Mitchell. I'm gonna throw another name at

7:34

you. He might be good for the Nets. Well,

7:36

we're not talking about the Nets. You wanna talk

7:38

about the Nets? No. No. We'll

7:42

do that on a podcast later. All right,

7:44

here's option three. And this name's gonna surprise you and

7:46

I bring it up because he's a free agent. And

7:48

so while it may take a lot of creativity, I

7:51

think the guy who's a free agent is a somewhat

7:53

realistic target. And I think this guy's perfect for your

7:55

team. And you haven't thought about him yet. Pascal

7:59

Siakam. Yeah,

8:01

your name, Luke. Yay. Oh,

8:04

yay, even though he just beat you? I don't

8:06

care about that. It's not about that. That's

8:08

old stuff. That happened two days

8:10

ago. That's old stuff. So yeah, your name. What's

8:14

he, 33? No, he's not

8:17

that old. 31, I think. Yeah,

8:19

31. I

8:22

think reluctantly, yay. Reluctantly, yeah.

8:24

You don't think like, look, it is going to

8:26

be very difficult to pull this part off with

8:28

his start. Like, star level

8:30

is consistent. Well, his star level is he can't

8:33

defend the way he did five years ago. He

8:35

can't guard one through five, but he's a solid

8:37

defensive player. You love the built-in Villanova chemistry. You've

8:39

got the Siakam-Ogiana-Nobi chemistry, assuming you re-sign him. And

8:41

you just saw it in game six and seven.

8:43

He's a matchup problem who can fill the basket.

8:45

Yeah, and he's a winner. And even though Kawhi

8:47

was the best player on that Raptor team, Siakam

8:49

was the best player in the finals and played

8:52

really well. I know he's not at that level

8:54

anymore, but you saw it here with Indiana. When

8:56

the games get tight, he could score. And I

8:58

like that. And he's

9:00

got a little bit of a dog in

9:02

him, too. Yeah, definitely. He wants to get

9:04

in your grill. The problem is he's a

9:06

free agent. The Knicks don't have cap space.

9:08

It would have to be a sign and

9:10

trade. So you would need Siakam to coerce

9:12

Indiana, who clearly traded for him, to then

9:15

re-sign him to orchestrate a Julius Randall draft

9:17

pick lead sign and trade. It's probably not

9:19

going to happen. So that means he's got

9:21

to want to be here. He's got to

9:23

want to be here. And he's got to

9:25

want to leave the Indiana Pacers, a team

9:27

who, by the way, is in the Eastern

9:29

Conference. We spent so many

9:31

years talking about star

9:33

players on XYZ team, not even star

9:36

players, but whatever, good starting players on

9:38

whatever team, recruiting other guys to come

9:40

to their team. That was

9:43

the narrative for, I don't know, felt like a

9:45

decade and a half with LeBron James and Dwayne

9:47

Wade and that whole Miami crew. And then teams

9:49

started to do that, like go recruit. And then

9:51

it kind of flipped and went the other way,

9:53

where guys were like, dude, if you want to

9:55

come here, come here. I might recruit you to

9:57

come here. And now we're

9:59

in that. space where it might be coming

10:01

back a little bit because the only way that

10:03

I think Pascal Siakam

10:06

Wants to be a nick right not

10:09

the Indiana Patriots do this independently, but he wants to

10:11

be a Nick because the patients want him back I'm

10:13

sorry The only way he wants to

10:15

be a Nick is if og recruits or he

10:17

was so enamored by the Madison Square Garden crowd

10:19

He said man. I got to play there You

10:21

know they gave a standing ovation of Josh Hart

10:23

after we fell out and lost the playoffs game

10:26

Maybe all that stuff will actually work out for

10:28

you rightfully so by the way of

10:30

course here's your last Realistic

10:32

name and then we'll get to the

10:35

the guys you're dreaming about Zach Levine

10:37

Chicago Bulls. Yeah, you're nice. Absolutely. No

10:40

Absolutely. No Tiki I'm

10:42

gonna go no to yeah something about him. It's

10:44

just I feel like he just never hit it

10:47

Well, you also can't stay healthy true But there

10:49

was this moment where it got a lot of

10:51

beans gonna be that dude and it just never

10:53

happened You don't have to be this dude here.

10:55

That's the beauty of this world you guys now

10:57

live in You're not looking for a dude like

11:00

this discussion is so unique from the one we

11:02

had a year or two ago Cuz there's always

11:04

just find me a star now. We're looking for

11:06

the right pieces We're looking for the right running

11:08

mate now. I give you the you never know

11:10

column Okay, these are the star players where it's

11:13

the NBA Yeah, never know

11:15

and this is gonna be a little bit more

11:17

difficult. I promise you Let's start with the

11:19

easy one the one everyone's gonna say yeah on

11:21

Devin Booker. Yeah, you're named Devin Booker Logan course

11:24

Yay. Yay. Yay. Not even a not even

11:27

thought yeah, here's the problem Let's

11:29

let's just discuss the inherent problem the

11:31

Phoenix Suns to me are not

11:33

blowing it up That's the problem right?

11:35

Like I get why we look at how

11:37

they have no picks. They're going nowhere Bradley

11:40

Beale stinks Kevin Durant is getting old

11:43

They're gonna want to trade Devin Booker and we

11:45

all know that Devin Booker Leon Rose connection Yeah,

11:47

I'm with you guys if he became available That's

11:50

the guy who's worth every asset you have

11:52

like literally I would take all the draft

11:54

picks in the world as overrated as they

11:56

Are I'd put him in a barrel. I'd

11:58

wheel him out the field Phoenix and

12:00

that overrated owner and say let's go. I

12:03

just don't think it's realistic because I don't think

12:05

the Suns are there yet But I do think

12:07

meaning they're not there to where they're saying it's

12:10

over Especially over with him. Yeah,

12:12

like cuz I'll give you another guy and

12:14

again, this is similar to Pascal He's got

12:16

to say I'm done here. I don't want

12:18

to play here anymore And even if he

12:20

does Phoenix could say you're starting long-term true

12:23

But the star is the question is so

12:25

he's not quite that star yet And

12:27

so he can't have the LeBron Privilege

12:30

well of saying I'm not gonna play here

12:32

anymore. Send me someplace else Yeah, and I

12:35

don't think he's gonna refuse to play see

12:37

if the Phoenix Suns This is the fun

12:39

part if the Phoenix Suns are going to

12:41

say hey, this isn't working. Let's change things

12:44

up They won't do it with Devin Booker,

12:46

but they'll do it with the next guy

12:48

on the list And of course

12:50

that guy let me just I wrote it down. This

12:52

guy's name is Kevin Durant Kevin Durant. Do you want

12:54

a movie? Oh, I have a lot much longer answer

12:57

for this one Kevin Durant the biggest mooch in the

12:59

history of the NBA I'd rather have Kyrie

13:01

Irving and Ben Simmons over that guy. I don't

13:03

want any part of old man KD really You

13:05

don't think you'd be a perfect fit for this

13:07

thing? No, he's a mooch He's a

13:09

loser and I do on this. I want no

13:11

part of it What you gonna do is gonna

13:13

score she could do on this team gonna be

13:16

out of breath in the fourth quarter No baskets,

13:18

man. He's a please one of the great playmakers

13:20

of all time but I think think about watching

13:22

this Nick team for the last year

13:24

plus and the ball movement and

13:26

the the way they create

13:28

off of two men games and screens

13:31

and Open shots kicking and

13:33

you know kick into the corners that

13:35

completely changes. Oh, I think Kevin Durant could fit

13:37

in this Oh Kevin Durant. It's more Are you

13:39

concerned about his age breaking down and the cost

13:41

and really look here's the other thing and I

13:44

do respect this the emotional Aspect of I don't

13:46

want to root for that guy and I understand

13:48

that by the way, and if that's your answer,

13:50

Lougie I don't want to root for that guy.

13:52

You had a chance to come here. He didn't

13:55

come here That's fine. But in terms of basketball,

13:57

you don't think this would fit beautifully. I'd probably

13:59

say yes Kevin Durant because he can score

14:01

and he's got an unblockable shot. I don't care

14:03

who's guarding him. And he can still play. And

14:06

he can still play. It's just a matter of

14:08

how much you're getting when it matters most. I

14:10

have a culture and a DNA that I'm building.

14:12

I have a like a college football team here,

14:15

Tika. I'm only recruiting people that fit my system.

14:17

I don't want that mooch on this team. I

14:20

don't know if he won't fit the

14:22

system. I think he probably would because

14:25

he's not a bad guy. Sometimes

14:28

we take our opinion about an athlete and

14:30

we make him into a bad guy even

14:32

though that's not really who he is. We

14:35

just don't like his journey maybe. I

14:37

understand. Right. And so

14:39

we lump that into him being a bad

14:41

dude. He's not. I think he's probably

14:43

a great teammate. So you say yay to K.D.? I'm probably

14:45

saying yay to K.D. And you are a full double nay,

14:48

Lugi. Let him go to OKC and try to mooch off

14:50

those young guys and ruin that team. By the way, what

14:53

you just said is the only way his

14:55

legacy gets right. Yeah, I know, right? Because

14:57

he's nowhere. He's

14:59

owned by nobody. Nobody claims

15:02

him really. The full circle journey of Kevin Durant would

15:04

work. And by the way, they're a good team. So

15:06

if he goes there and they win,

15:08

they get to the Western Conference Finals and

15:10

maybe win a championship, his legacy comes full

15:12

circle and it's like, all right, I'm good.

15:14

I can retire now. No question. Yay

15:16

or nay, Anthony Davis. LA

15:19

Lakers lose LeBron James. LeBron ends up going to

15:21

whoever drafts Bronny. The Lakers now look at the

15:23

roster and they say, we're not building around AD.

15:26

You got all these hard names,

15:28

man. But these are all somewhat realistic. I know. Let's

15:30

be honest. The NBA is a weird world in which

15:32

I can paint the scenario where all of these guys.

15:34

I'm going to say no on AD. You say no?

15:37

I'm saying no. The guy can still play. I

15:39

know he can, but I'm going to say no on AD. Yeah.

15:41

Yeah. Don't work for me, dog. I'm

15:44

out on AD. Wow. Okay.

15:47

Joel Embiid. Yes. Oh, come on. Yes.

15:52

He was so dirty and you guys just had a war with

15:54

him. Yes. You say

15:56

yay to Joel Embiid. He's my enemy till he's mine, till

15:58

he's not. Embiid's

16:01

on the list with Trae Young and

16:03

Al Capone in that little book. No

16:05

shock. Never, ever, ever, ever. What

16:07

if he's doing all that dirty stuff for you? No,

16:10

never. He's on the list. And he's soft,

16:12

and he's a loser, and he's weak-minded. I want no

16:14

part of him. So, as an IBO, can I tell

16:16

you why I agree with you, Loogie? And it has

16:18

nothing to do with anything you guys said. I look at

16:20

Joel Embiid, and I've thought this now for the last

16:22

two years, when there's always been these outside rumors of,

16:24

ah, he's going to ask for a trade, he's going to

16:26

want an out-sticks, he's going to blow it up. This

16:29

guy is breaking down before our eyes now.

16:32

Can you imagine him as he gets

16:34

even older? So, I think it's a

16:36

bad move because, as great of a

16:38

player as he is when he's out

16:40

there, he's the most unreliable star in

16:42

the NBA. And it's because

16:44

of his own body. I got two

16:46

more names, and of course, we're waiting for the

16:48

big one at the end. Jimmy Butler. Miami decides

16:50

to blow it up. Pat Riley says, you know

16:52

what? I got no issue with the Knicks now.

16:54

Jimmy Butler. One thousand percent, yes. Really? Oh,

16:57

absolutely. And Jimmy Butler, forget about it, the big-time

16:59

dog will rip your heart out and eat it.

17:01

I want him. He's not breaking down

17:03

either in his mid-30s now? He's breaking down a little

17:05

bit, but I do think the bright lights, New York City,

17:08

the Met guy, I think he'll turn it up, and I

17:10

think he'll be there when needed the most. Yeah, you're Nate.

17:12

Jimmy Butler, too. I think Nate. I

17:14

think Nate for Jimmy Butler won because I don't think

17:16

he's the player that he was. Because we

17:18

talked about all season how he's

17:21

the one guy in the league that you trust

17:23

to flip the switch. No matter when it

17:25

is, all right, I'm turning it on right now. It's

17:28

on. And he tried in the postseason, it didn't happen. Oh, he

17:30

couldn't play? He couldn't play. He couldn't

17:32

physically play. And then he got hurt. Yeah. And

17:35

so I'm going to say Nate on Jimmy Butler. Giannis Antunokumbo. A

17:37

hundred percent. Really? A hundred

17:39

percent. That's an easy one for you? What? Yes.

17:43

I think he's going to age terribly. I really do. world

17:47

because he doesn't have the offensive game to age

17:49

gracefully. That's why. I think he's going to... You

17:51

know who he reminds me of? This

17:53

is going to be very, very harsh. Obviously

17:56

in terms of how he's going to age, reminds

17:58

me of Russell Westbrook. Because I think

18:00

when you don't have, when

18:03

you rely on athleticism,

18:05

and Russ relied on athleticism, and

18:08

you don't have that feathery touch and

18:10

you don't have that jump shot, like

18:12

Kevin Durant is aging okay because he

18:15

can shoot. I think Giannis

18:17

Antonycoumbault, and let me be clear, if

18:19

the Bucks decided to blow it up, would I

18:21

be willing to make them the Godfather offer? You

18:24

have to. But I go into it

18:26

eyes wide open that that will age terribly. So

18:28

I've always thought this with Giannis, he's a liability

18:30

offensively, especially in close games, he can't hit free

18:32

throws. You're right, he doesn't have a jump shot,

18:35

he doesn't have like low post moves, so the

18:37

older he gets the worse, more injuries piled up.

18:39

It's Giannis, it's hard to pass on, but even

18:41

in his prime I thought he was a liability

18:43

at times. And you saw it

18:45

like last year, like it pops up. And let's get to

18:47

the final infinity stone. Let's just talk about it. Let's have

18:49

an open and frank conversation and I'll give you the real

18:52

perspective on this whole thing. Do you want

18:54

yea or nay on Miquel Bridges? One

18:57

million percent yes. The final

18:59

infinity stone. The Nova

19:02

boys, what I love most about him is defense

19:04

because when OG Ananobi went down they couldn't guard

19:06

anybody. Indiana basically shot 90% in the first half

19:08

in game seven. So I need a guy that

19:10

could lock it up. Bridges who's obviously disinterested playing

19:12

for the little brother, doesn't want to be there.

19:15

He's been openly recruited by the players on

19:17

the Knicks, his fellow brethren from Villanova. They

19:19

want him, we want him. I want him

19:21

for his defense. He's shown he can like

19:23

be a real time scorer. You at one

19:25

point, Evan said he's the best player in this

19:27

town, which he no longer is, he has that kind

19:29

of potential. When he's motivated, which he will be here,

19:31

if you want to question his leadership, you can. But

19:34

on this team, they have enough leaders so they don't need him to

19:36

lead. They need him to defend and that's what he does. He doesn't

19:38

need to be the alpha. Correct. He doesn't

19:41

have to be that big loud voice. He doesn't

19:43

need to be. Especially if this

19:45

team, the Villanova three, stay together,

19:47

then he's perfect.

19:49

Yes. Let

19:52

this be the final time. We

19:55

have to waste our air on

19:58

this asinine uninformed rumor. Okay,

20:00

and this is to Bill Simmons

20:03

and this is to worldwide Wab And

20:06

this is to ever to you Lougie to

20:08

CP the fan Shise to every other Nick

20:10

fan I know Bill Simmons is a Nick

20:13

fan, but you know what he likes making

20:15

fake trades Let me make this perfectly clear

20:17

to everybody. I have zero

20:19

emotional attachment to kelp Miquel bridges. Okay, I

20:22

don't this is not about Oh, I can't

20:24

have Miquel bridges on the New York next

20:26

quite frankly My team sucks and

20:28

if you want to hear my deeper opinion on the

20:31

Brooklyn Nets made a little podcast and that's still in

20:33

the league No, not really boomer, but let me just

20:35

inform you on a couple of things number one The

20:38

Brooklyn Nets themselves are

20:40

not trading Miquel bridges to the New York next

20:42

period stop and watch this this may surprise you

20:46

They're wrong for having that philosophy.

20:49

I would be open-minded on trading

20:51

Miquel bridges Anywhere and

20:53

you want to know why cheek because

20:55

the Nets are a rudderless No

20:59

direction franchise and you don't want him

21:01

a part of your future. I didn't

21:03

say that I didn't say any of

21:05

that I'm open-minded to everything because the

21:07

Nets are a rudderless ship and the

21:09

one thing I believe as a sportsman We may

21:11

have this discussion about the Mets in a couple

21:13

of weeks. Maybe even a couple of days Maybe

21:16

then a couple of months I

21:18

want what's best for my team And

21:20

so if the New York Knicks were able

21:22

to offer the best package for Miquel bridges,

21:24

I'd say hey guys Let's further this discussion.

21:27

I'm hoping to trading him to the New York Knicks. I

21:29

got no problem with that This is not about all I

21:31

haven't he's a hater He can never imagine bridges with the

21:33

Knicks I don't really ever have to ask about bridges to

21:35

the next what I care about is what the Nets would

21:38

get and So what I don't

21:40

understand from these experts is

21:42

how in your mind you think?

21:46

The Knicks have the best offer from a Cal

21:48

bridges they don't Your

21:50

draft picks are not very good. And

21:52

by the way, that's a compliment Your

21:54

draft picks won't be that good cuz

21:57

you're good the picks you

21:59

own from other teams? Milwaukee, Dallas,

22:01

the super protected Detroit pick, it's

22:03

like Lougie on a Saturday night

22:06

back in his single days. Like,

22:08

dude, your draft picks are not

22:10

appealing. And you know who else is not

22:12

appealing? To me and to the Nets if

22:15

they have a half a brain? Julius Randall.

22:17

So let us all do ourselves a favor.

22:20

I'm not gonna bore you with net talk because you

22:22

don't want to hear it. So don't

22:24

bore me with a fantasy about

22:26

trading for a player you can't

22:28

get! But it just sounds really

22:30

nice. It just sounds really nice.

22:32

Great! It sounds really nice, Evan.

22:35

Well you know what also sounds really nice? Abe

22:37

Lincoln coming back from the dead and

22:39

running for president this year. But

22:41

it's not happening because he's dead! Would it really?

22:44

It would be pretty cool. I vote for him.

22:46

Really? Can you really run again now?

22:48

Did he have two terms? He

22:51

technically won the second term but he

22:53

got shot and killed so early that

22:56

that's a great constitutional question. Plus, because

22:58

it was before the turn limit rule,

23:00

I bet you he can run. He

23:03

fits the age requirement. But

23:05

my point is, you're not getting him! It's

23:08

not happening! You know what? That was a nice... Can we

23:10

all stop wasting our time with this? That

23:12

was a nice speech sport. But you like audio clips, right? So

23:15

I'm gonna play this again for you. You and I need to

23:17

have a three-way trade. We need to have

23:19

a three-way trade. We need to get a

23:21

third party involved here. We need to find

23:23

another team that you know you can fancy

23:25

that could get you a star player that

23:27

you so desperately want and pay. And then

23:29

we could bring Gridges across the river where

23:31

he belongs with his dudes, with his dogs,

23:33

with his family! You're keeping him from his

23:35

family! Don't you think he wants to be

23:37

here? I don't give a rat-ass what he

23:39

wants! But shouldn't you? No! Why? Because if

23:41

you can work out a deal that benefits

23:43

the nets and allows them to rebuild in

23:45

this blow-up scenario that you just laid out,

23:48

this blow-up scenario, and he gets where he

23:50

wants to go and somebody else gets a

23:52

great player or he's a potentially great player,

23:54

did they gonna have to pay ultimately in

23:56

Julius Randall? Does that not make sense? If

23:58

you could correct! Three ways happen all

24:01

the time. Now we're talking

24:03

about Kiki side. If

24:05

you could present to me a

24:07

scenario where the Nets got this

24:10

make-believe Godfather offer, yeah,

24:12

I'm open to it. I'm not against trading him

24:14

to the Knicks because I think the Nets are

24:16

so rudderless that they need to do its best

24:18

interest of their franchise. And by the way, Joe

24:20

Sipe, part of why he's a terrible owner, is

24:22

that he should be open-minded and not close down

24:24

any trade with the New York Knicks. What I'm

24:26

telling you is you don't have what it takes.

24:29

You don't. Your draft picks

24:31

are overrated. Julius Randall, I have no

24:33

interest in him. So a lot of

24:35

the other names I mentioned, maybe you can trade for them.

24:38

Like maybe you can. But the McElbridge is one,

24:40

which I just want to put a stop to.

24:43

Because I know being a Nets fan

24:45

means nothing nowadays. They suck, they're irrelevant. I

24:48

don't waste your time talking about them. But

24:50

at least let me inform you guys before

24:52

we spend hours fantasizing about something that's not

24:54

going to happen. You're not getting

24:56

McElbridge. Why? You don't know that. So stop saying

24:58

that definitively. You don't know that. I mean, you

25:01

don't want it either. I love that you throw

25:03

it all. I wouldn't care. It would eat you

25:05

alive. Why would it even lie? If Bridges is

25:07

a missing piece for a Knicks title, he was

25:09

your guy. McElbridge is not my guy. He means

25:11

nothing to me. He's been a loser since he's

25:13

gotten here. He gets bullied by his Villanova teammates.

25:16

I want what's in the best interest of my team.

25:19

I think you know that as a fan of teams.

25:21

I just want what's in the best interest of my

25:23

team. The Knicks can't offer guys what's in the best

25:25

interest of my team. So stop dreaming about it. But

25:27

we can find a third shooter and you were

25:29

pumping up Bridges last year like he was basically LeBron

25:31

James. And now you're done with him because he

25:33

was disinterested in a really, really bad season. That's ridiculous.

25:36

If he's not a cornerstone of your team, I don't know

25:38

what the hell cornerstone you have. Find a third team.

25:40

If you don't like what the Knicks are offering, I

25:43

get that. We'll have a three way. We'll set something

25:45

up. Bring Bridges back to his family, to

25:47

the Mecca, to the real basketball team around here.

25:49

And you could get Trey Young or whoever else

25:51

you seek. Donovan Mitchell, so anybody. Name the team.

25:53

I'll give you a couple of minutes. Right now

25:55

during the next commercial break, I want you to

25:58

list the three way that appeals to me. And

26:00

I'll tell you if it appeals enough for me to for me to get into bed with

26:02

you You that's your job when

26:04

we come back to your calls You want some

26:07

of those guys or you a run it back

26:09

guy and say you know what I think Julius

26:11

Randall Postseason this time with Jaylen has the star.

26:13

I'm in run it back or one of these

26:16

stars We'll talk when I need to have a

26:18

three-way. Well, probably not happening. We'll get to

26:20

your calls next eight seven seven three three seven sixty

26:22

six sixty six Very

26:24

very busy day today We'll get to the

26:27

Yankees the Mets Aaron Rodgers the Giants feeding their

26:29

season ticket holders incredibly well But before we get

26:31

to your phone calls, I gave Lukey five minutes.

26:33

He wants to have a three-way with me That's

26:35

fine. You got to make it worth my while.

26:37

So tell me what it's what tell me what

26:39

it is Alright Evan, so I spent the

26:42

whole break you told me to get a three-way going But

26:44

all I could think of was Sydney Sweeney and Emily Radikowski.

26:46

So just give me one more break We'll come back in

26:48

an hour and I will have that for you. All right,

26:50

thank you I got to get that brain part of that

26:52

could work though I think in Brooklyn we take Emily Radikowski

26:54

the Knicks already called it on Let's

26:58

get your calls the Knicks season is over But

27:00

now it's silly season the silly season of the

27:02

offseason and here's the good news When

27:04

you go on a run like the Knicks did the

27:06

offseason begins in only a month You

27:09

know, I mean like usually he got away

27:11

three months for the offseason to start But

27:13

in this case because the Knicks at least

27:15

gave you a run deep into May We

27:18

are a little over a month away from

27:20

NBA free agency and all the craziness that

27:22

can follow Run it back

27:24

crowd versus a Julius Randall has some value.

27:26

We've got a lot of draft picks. Let's

27:28

go bigger Let's hear from you. Let's kick

27:30

it off with Rob on Long Island. How

27:32

you doing, Rob? Hey,

27:34

Evan. Hey Tiki. How you doing? Good. What's up?

27:37

Good. Thank you. My call Yeah,

27:39

one name you didn't mention Evan who

27:41

I think the Knicks would go after in

27:43

the offseason I really like Lori marketing as

27:45

Utah Jazz. I don't know if any would

27:47

trade with the Knicks Yeah, but I think

27:50

you bring so seems like they want to

27:52

build around him though So

27:54

here's the issue. It's a great name because

27:56

Lori marketing would be a great fit for

27:58

this team. He's in the process of

28:00

his career. He's got that same

28:02

kind of age cycle as Jaylen

28:04

Brunson in terms of timetable. He's

28:06

26. He's big. He can

28:09

shoot. He gives you length. I'd

28:11

love Laurie Markinan, but you just kind of

28:13

hit on it. Danny Ainge hates you. That's

28:15

number one. Danny Ainge will only rip you off.

28:17

And I had read an article I'd say

28:19

in the last few months out of Utah that

28:22

they have no interest in trading him. And

28:24

if they did trade him, it

28:27

would take a Godfatherian like offer.

28:29

Where they would want four or five

28:31

first round picks plus a star player.

28:33

And here's what I wonder about. You've

28:35

got the picks to trade, even if

28:37

they're not necessarily as appealing as others.

28:40

Is Julius Randall, who's essentially a free

28:42

agent at the end of next year,

28:45

an appealing piece back for Utah? And

28:47

my answer would be probably not. No,

28:49

I don't think so. It doesn't make

28:51

sense because it doesn't fit where their

28:53

cycle is and what they're trying to do. But

28:56

Laurie Markinan has just he's

28:58

gotten better and better. It seems like every single

29:00

season. No doubt. And so I think he's a

29:02

piece that they want to build around. They could

29:04

still build around him. At least that's the word

29:06

coming out of Utah. He'd be great for the

29:08

next though. Seven points. He shoots 40% from the

29:10

from three. I mean, he would be a great

29:12

piece that I just, I don't sense

29:15

Utah does it. And even if they do,

29:17

if the Knicks would match up in terms

29:19

of having that young star to send back.

29:21

Let's go to Joe in Las Vegas. What's

29:23

up, Joe? Hey, how's it

29:25

going, good, man. Good. Hey,

29:27

first, we give it a shout out to Tiki. I'm diehard Giants

29:29

fan. You are that's

29:32

running back in Giants history period. Appreciate it. Be

29:34

in all should be in the Hall of Fame.

29:36

Maybe one of these. You got

29:38

my vote if I ever get one. You're

29:41

welcome. So yeah, I wanted to talk about

29:43

the Knicks a little bit. And listen, I

29:45

love Julius Randall. But if you really look

29:48

at it, like his contract situation, if you

29:50

did trade him for bridges, and

29:52

obviously probably have to throw some stuff in.

29:54

Listen, listen, listen. I want to hear that.

30:00

Listen, I'm not saying that I want

30:02

them to do that, but if

30:05

you look at the contract, you're going to

30:07

have to pay Randall. You're going to have to pay O.G. Yes. You're

30:10

going to have to pay Grunsen. Yes. You're not

30:12

paying Bridges that much money. So, in

30:14

a way, it's a downgrade, but

30:16

it adds somebody for less money that's

30:18

really talented. Well, it's not a downgrade.

30:20

Like, I understand Julius put up some massive, massive

30:23

numbers, but Lugi was right about a lot of

30:25

what he said, and I'm going to speak very

30:27

calmly about this. In a perfect

30:29

world, Mikel Bridges does fit this team

30:31

brilliantly. He really does. It's

30:34

just that you just don't think

30:36

you can work. You're not getting him. Well, only

30:38

because it's not going to work trade-wise. It's not

30:40

going to work trade-wise. Head-on, head-on. It's not going

30:43

to work. It's not going to trade, unless there's

30:45

a third party, which is all Lugi's saying. No.

30:48

Here's why. Okay? Here's

30:50

why. And I apologize. I don't want to talk

30:52

Brooklyn Nets. I don't. But unfortunately,

30:54

like, when we talk about trading for Lori Markinen, we're not

30:56

invested in the Utah Jazz. We really care what the Utah

30:59

Jazz won. While most people around here

31:01

don't give a crap about the Nets, and that's

31:03

fine, I can't pretend while you're talking about one

31:05

of my players, like, I don't know anything. Like,

31:08

I can do that. You want to just be dumb? Yeah.

31:10

Yeah, guys. I think Mikel Bridges would

31:12

be a great fit, and we can move on. Or

31:15

I can tell you why this is all asinine.

31:17

So I apologize. I don't want to talk about

31:19

the Nets, but when you bring up my man's

31:21

name, I'm going to have to... I'm

31:24

just saying he's on my team. Yeah, you're not

31:26

claiming him. I'm not. You don't necessarily

31:28

want him here. You just don't see how the Knicks

31:31

make it feasible to trade for him. If the Brooklyn

31:33

Nets trade Mikel Bridges, which I am not against, he

31:35

will be a Houston Rocket. Why will he

31:37

be a Houston Rocket? Because the Houston Rockets can offer me

31:39

something no one else can offer, and that's my pick back.

31:42

And if they're able to offer that plus a young

31:44

star that I want, Julius Randall is not a

31:46

young star that I want, I'd be open to

31:48

that trade. Why are you confused right now, Tommy?

31:50

Because why can't Houston be involved in our three-way

31:52

then? If you're saying Houston matches up, then they're

31:55

the third team to get involved in our three-way.

31:57

It's a great question, Louie. I'm going to answer

31:59

this. the dumbest question ever. Um,

32:02

because that package that they'd be

32:04

offering like those first round picks,

32:07

those young players, they would only

32:09

do that if they were getting Michael Burgess.

32:11

They're not doing it so that they could

32:13

take Julius Randall back. I don't think you

32:15

understand that. No, I don't. I don't

32:17

think you understand. What don't I understand? Let's talk about this

32:19

like we're rich people. Okay. You're not offering

32:22

me Jay Lee. You're offering me. I want something.

32:25

I want something and I'm going to get

32:27

it. So let's figure out a way. All right.

32:30

When your boss says, get it done, figure out a way. Let's figure out

32:32

a way. No, that's just then

32:34

you'd be fired. Can I tell you why? I'm

32:37

firing you as my GM. Okay. That's

32:39

fine. By the way, maybe the GM of the net should

32:41

have already been fired. Okay.

32:44

In the NBA, you only have a certain

32:46

amount of assets. Like the

32:48

Knicks have what they have. They have their own

32:51

first round picks, which is great. They

32:53

added first round picks over the last

32:55

few years. One from Milwaukee, one from

32:57

Dallas, a protected one from Detroit. Like

32:59

you have that. And then you have

33:01

some young pieces like Miles Deuce McBride.

33:03

Really good young piece. I agree with

33:05

you. You make

33:07

him available. That's better than not

33:09

making them available. So there's

33:12

only a certain amount that you can offer. And

33:14

I'm telling you, I've looked at your roster and

33:17

I've looked at your assets. You don't have enough.

33:20

Like the Houston Rockets can offer me Jaylen Green

33:22

and my first round picks back. I'm making that

33:24

trade. And if your answer is well, then

33:27

we'll flip something to Houston. They're only giving that

33:29

up to get Michael Bridges and not giving that

33:31

up to get Julius Randall. So what

33:34

part of that don't you understand? Well, I'll tell

33:36

you what part of it I don't understand is

33:38

sometimes you have to wine and dine to get

33:40

that threesome going. So this is that three way.

33:42

You have to figure out ways to get other

33:44

teams interested. What assets let's make it work. You

33:47

have a player I want. You have a player the

33:49

players want. So let's find a third team to get

33:51

involved. Whatever team that is and let's go.

33:54

You still haven't done that. Well,

33:56

I gave you a couple teams. We're working away. How many teams

33:58

are in a league? We'll get there eventually. trade that

34:00

makes sense I just told you specifically Tiki where

34:02

I would trade Michael bridges okay I'm a net

34:04

fan I'm open to trading him I'm not saying

34:06

I'm not trading him I told you what it

34:08

would take okay I think you

34:11

know for that but all loogie saying is

34:13

that in order if the net if the

34:15

Knicks really want Michael bridges yeah then

34:17

they'll find a way to get it no they can't

34:20

why why do you keep saying they

34:22

can't tell me the trade I'm waiting

34:24

whoever the third party is they

34:26

likely have a player that the Knicks or the Nets

34:29

also want right no no

34:31

I want picks and a

34:34

young young player that

34:36

team isn't giving that up if they're not

34:38

getting the Kel bridges like I know this

34:40

is weird for people to understand Mikel bridges

34:42

has a lot more trade value than Julius

34:44

Randall now I'm not getting into some argument

34:46

Knicks versus Nets this is not Knicks versus

34:48

Nets this is reality versus not reality it's

34:50

he has a lot more value dude and

34:52

that's because of what Julius Randle is gonna

34:54

command in a year and a half or

34:56

two years whereas Michael bridges is not gonna

34:58

talk so because a lot of people think

35:00

he's better regardless it

35:02

comes down it comes down the money okay it's

35:04

gonna come down the money it's a less valuable

35:06

asset because you got to pay him a lot

35:09

more when he becomes due Julius Randall so I

35:11

hear what you're saying but I think all loogie

35:13

is saying is that the deal can be done

35:15

no if it's are then

35:17

are the Nets completely tied to Michael no I'm open

35:19

to trading and I told you so that he's he

35:21

could be traded somewhere I still haven't heard how let's

35:24

go to Anthony Emerson maybe he has the answer what's

35:26

up Anthony hey how's

35:28

it going guys thanks for having me on appreciate the

35:30

call um just a quick

35:33

quick few things um I don't understand

35:35

why the Knicks would trade Julius Randall

35:38

from a Kel bridges I know you just said the

35:40

Kel is better than Randall I don't think so

35:42

Randall's a two-time NBA three-time all-star to the

35:45

salaries don't match and three why do

35:47

the Nets think that Michael is some

35:49

superstar player that he is he's he's

35:52

not so I want person that commands five first-round

35:54

picks so that the reports that they denied you

35:56

would know better than me than that Evan but

35:58

no you're right Anthony, Anthony, you're saying

36:00

a lot of stuff that's right, then a few

36:03

things that are just a little bit wrong, okay?

36:05

I don't wanna argue with you about Julius Randall

36:07

versus Michael Bridges. It's a waste of time, it

36:09

serves no purpose. So I'm just gonna tell you,

36:11

Michael Bridges has more value than Julius Randall. And

36:13

Tiki touched on some of the reasons why. He

36:15

just does, okay? Number one, number two, he is

36:17

not a superstar, Michael Bridges. I'll be the first

36:19

to tell you that. He's not, he's not a

36:21

guy you should build around. That's why the Nets

36:23

have two options. Again, I apologize if this becomes

36:25

a net thing, but you're involving my team, you're

36:28

involving my player. I'm gonna give you the correct

36:30

answer, or at least the truth. Either

36:32

you get another star, and so you're not

36:34

building around Michael Bridges, you're building around A

36:36

star plus Bridges, or you blow the whole

36:39

thing up. The way I stand right now,

36:41

I probably lean a little bit more towards blowing the

36:43

whole thing up. I'm open-minded on the star, I gotta

36:45

know what the star is, I gotta know what the

36:48

cost is. Number three, I

36:50

think I'm up to number three, the Nets were

36:52

offered a crazy amount from

36:54

Michael Bridges a few years ago from

36:56

Memphis. Is that same offer out there?

36:58

Maybe not to the exact point, but

37:00

there clearly is a very strong interest

37:03

in Bridges. If there isn't,

37:06

the Knicks offer still wouldn't be enough for me

37:08

to move on from him. You know what I

37:10

mean? Like they don't have to trade him. He's

37:13

signed for two more years. They

37:15

don't have to trade him. Yeah, they don't, but the

37:18

Nets can't keep sitting still. I agree.

37:21

They can't keep just doing the same thing

37:23

over and over and over and over again, and

37:25

think the fans, for some reason, they

37:29

sold out like every game last year. Especially at the end

37:31

of the season. I know you're asking you about it. Why

37:34

is there so many people at these Nets

37:36

games? A cheap way to see basketball. Ding dong. Either

37:39

way, it doesn't matter. Eventually, if

37:41

the product is bad enough, you're just gonna say,

37:43

you know what, I'd rather do nothing than go

37:45

to watch bad basketball. So my point is, the

37:47

Nets have to get good, and there

37:50

are many ways to do it. One of them

37:52

is blowing it up. Another one is holding on

37:54

to Michael Bridges and putting a viable team around

37:56

him or with him. By the way, that's what

37:58

they're gonna try to do. Which

38:00

is easier said than done. I totally agree with you,

38:02

and I'm telling you it's a case-by-case basis on how

38:04

I feel about Like again,

38:06

I'm not gonna get into the details on what I would

38:08

do and not do but it is not a foregone conclusion

38:10

They're gonna trade him and if they do trade him the

38:13

Knicks don't have enough on me Why did you have to

38:15

say you wanted to kill bridges? You know what?

38:17

I appreciate Evan trying to die on this So because

38:19

I understand that Guys

38:24

are talking and here's what disappoints me

38:26

guys, you know better Like

38:28

they know better Bill Simmons knows better worldwide.

38:30

Wob knows better. Those are smart basketball guys

38:32

What are you the grand pool by here

38:34

now? Top of your hill at

38:36

everybody else because I'm a net fan. I know what's

38:39

going on with the organization I know what they're thinking.

38:41

I know what they should do I know what they

38:43

can't do and I know that the idea that just

38:45

because you want it so much and just because he

38:47

may want It so much doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

38:50

You can't wish your way to moves, bro Why

38:52

not because that's not I mean, I mean

38:54

that's I mean really no seriously because if

38:56

it Works for the player it

38:58

works for both organizations For

39:10

the next because they won't be able to get enough back from the

39:12

Knicks I've been saying it over again.

39:14

They won't get enough back Julius Randall and your

39:17

overrated picks are not enough Okay,

39:19

Julius Randall will give you Mitch somebody

39:21

else. It's horrible offer Tiki. I don't

39:24

make this very clear It's a awful

39:26

offer stop wasting people's time

39:28

on your timeline by suggesting it.

39:30

It's a terrible offer It's

39:33

not gonna happen. I'm not interested. They're

39:35

not interested So all you're doing is

39:37

wishing something and I get it. He's

39:39

a great fit for your team. You're

39:42

not getting him Why do I always

39:44

have to be the bad guy when all I'm doing is throwing you

39:46

the truth? I'm not trying to be

39:48

a bad guy like Nick fans hate me now. What

39:50

have I done so wrong? But he's just telling you

39:52

the truth. Okay. Here's another reality That doesn't likely

39:55

not gonna happen because he doesn't seem like this kind

39:57

of kid But what if he says I want out?

40:01

I would trade them. I would trade

40:03

them either way, but it wouldn't be the next.

40:05

Do you remember where Damian Lillard wanted to go? He wanted

40:07

to go to Miami. Did he go to Miami? No, of course not.

40:10

And Damian Lillard's got a hell of a lot

40:12

more credit in Portland than Mikel Bridges has in

40:14

Brooklyn. He can want it all he wants. It's

40:18

not happening. And

40:20

I'm not saying it to be a bad guy. I'm

40:22

not saying it because I'm an angry

40:25

net fan. I'm saying it because it's

40:27

the reality. And sometimes Fandom

40:29

Jade's reality, I know that. I experience it

40:31

a lot. This has nothing to do with

40:33

Fandom. You want to know why? I

40:35

have no connection to Mikel Bridges

40:38

whatsoever. It is a business transaction.

40:40

And why are you defending him as a net

40:42

so strongly? Because you're not trading him for Julius

40:44

Randall in overrated picks. That's why. Because your offer

40:46

isn't good enough. Dude, if you had an appealing

40:48

enough offer, there'd be a big debate in the

40:50

net community. And I'd be on the side of

40:52

trading to the next. I swear to God. Because

40:54

I just want the best. That's fine. Insult

40:57

the team. You do that all the time. You insult

40:59

the Knicks and you insult us. So you're going

41:01

to get it back. I haven't insulted you. And by the way, I

41:03

wasn't here yesterday. But the reason Knicks fans are mad at you is because the stunt

41:05

you pulled yesterday. I didn't pull any stunt. You pulled a major

41:07

stunt. I wasn't here, but I saw the clip. I saw

41:09

it went viral. Oh, I said you should be mad

41:12

when you were in the playoffs. No, no. You

41:14

don't know what a real NBA franchise looks

41:16

like because your bum-ass team tried to get

41:18

three superstars here that play that combine half

41:20

the season between the three of them. And

41:23

you're one star player now. So rather sit around and go

41:25

to the Met Gal and hang out as pajamas, the little

41:27

nastiness. I'm talking about the Nets as relevant because no one cares

41:29

about them. So I'll bring it up to the Jets. When

41:31

the New York Jets lost Aaron Rodgers

41:34

for the season, you guys killed me

41:36

universally for still thinking and saying they better

41:38

be a playoff team. So

41:40

I don't use injuries as an excuse. Never have,

41:43

never will. And so all I'm saying is as

41:45

a sports fan, not as an indicator, I know

41:47

it can be presented that way and that's fine.

41:50

I'll live that. That's okay. As

41:52

a sports fan, I am consistent in

41:54

when my season ends, I'm pissed off.

41:56

Now sit there using injuries as the

41:58

excuse for action. Positioning it

42:00

from the excuse department the round

42:02

of applause These what we

42:05

feel for this team is the fact that they

42:07

gutted through it. I said it yesterday It's like

42:09

the movie 300 come to life. We appreciate the

42:11

ever we appreciate what they put forth We appreciate

42:13

because of the injuries what they had to do

42:15

and spill their guts on the floor Especially job

42:17

hard who played every minute of every game. I

42:19

want I promise you the banner will go up

42:22

in October Let's get to some of your calls

42:24

Adam and Greenwich. What's up, Adam? Hey,

42:26

what's up guys? Lou It's

42:29

all about culture and sorry Evan

42:31

Peaky. Thank you guys. It's a great argument but

42:33

it's about the culture and it's about the filling

42:36

out and and none of these guys fit that and

42:39

Bridges is the only guy that does fit it

42:41

But what I don't understand is that we're shooting

42:43

down the idea of trading Randall for bridges But

42:45

we can't trade Randall and picks for any of

42:47

these guys We can't trade them for Duran can't

42:49

trade them for Giannis So none of the packages

42:51

is just gonna be Randall and picks everything is

42:53

gonna have to include somebody else So I agree

42:55

with you to a certain extent. I think those

42:57

other far-reaching deals. It will include more I think

43:00

the clipper one is interesting because

43:02

if Paul George says look I'm

43:05

gonna give you a choice and this is the way this

43:07

thing could go down because Paul George is a free agent He

43:09

has a chance to opt out if Paul George goes to the

43:11

LA Clippers and says look I'm out I'm

43:13

gonna tell you right now. I'm out and I'm gonna give you a choice

43:16

I can opt out and just sign with the 76ers because

43:18

they have cap space or I will

43:20

opt in and I want you to trade Me to the

43:22

New York next that is on the table The

43:25

odds are the Clippers would say you know

43:27

what but we're gonna trade you to the

43:29

New York next and being a winner now

43:31

Is team I think Julius Randall would be

43:33

a player. They would actually want back So

43:36

I think that the clipper thing is very

43:38

different of Julius Randall would be a player

43:40

They would actually want back. So I think

43:42

that the clipper thing is very different Okay,

43:44

I hate what you're saying about being a

43:46

win now team But how long

43:49

can the nets what I'm talking

43:51

about the natural time at the Clippers Understand that but

43:53

but you're you're bringing up the Clippers because they are

43:55

a win now team But yeah, basically talking about the

43:57

nets as if they're not and so like how

44:00

How long can you do that? How long can you

44:02

just be like, yeah, we're just gonna exist I'm not

44:04

talking about the nets. What about the nets? I told

44:06

you I trade McHale bridges. You don't have enough I'm

44:08

talking about where Randall could get them Paul George. So

44:11

what are you are you bringing it back to the

44:13

net? No, I'm bringing guys only want to talk about

44:15

the nets No, I'm bringing about back to McHale bridges

44:17

because the nets have to do something and McHale bridges

44:19

is their best asset to move I agree They should

44:22

either blow it up or get another star by blowing

44:24

it up. It wouldn't be with the Knicks would be

44:26

with the Houston Rockets That's my point. It

44:28

would not be with the Knicks. You don't have enough unless

44:30

the Knicks are highly motivated to get the deal done

44:33

Which is what is what Lou Guise point is? Okay,

44:35

they are highly motivated. They'll find a way to do

44:37

it I'm still waiting for anybody and I'll take

44:39

a few more calls on this Anybody

44:41

to present that offer because I am so open-minded

44:43

This is where you'll get a civil war amongst

44:45

the eight net fans There are net fans who

44:47

say I would never trade bridges to the next

44:50

period stop. I don't agree with them I would

44:52

do it if it was an offer where I'm

44:54

like, okay, you got me. So I'm

44:56

open-minded I do find it interesting what I find it

44:58

interesting how little the nets are relevant how little people

45:00

watching but Nick Finn seems to have so Many opinions

45:02

on the kill bridge. That's because of the Villanova connection

45:04

though. That's all it's gonna they never seen him play

45:06

them Well, it's all playing college and they know that

45:08

Jane Lynn Bronson and Josh are really like maybe he

45:10

was in the NBA finals on the Phoenix Sun so

45:12

that is where we saw that Lorenzo and Queens. What's

45:14

up, Lorenzo? You're number one. Yeah, big

45:16

fan. Uh, He's back and

45:19

check this out. Uh, number one Julius is a

45:21

mixed version of LeBron Maybe not good, but he's

45:24

still out of the bronze So unless

45:26

we're getting a haul or someone that can replace them

45:28

That's what I keep Julius number two Evan

45:30

you say you're an IPO but I think

45:32

back a year ago You're an ITO independent

45:35

troll observer because you own a mix in

45:37

apology. You're dealing littered in Bronson apology Why

45:39

would Damien come to the mix when Bronson's

45:41

already on the team? Was he gonna display

45:43

some or play at the same time? It

45:45

really didn't make any sense That

45:50

is such a callback for a year ago And

45:53

I do want to explain it Yeah,

45:55

cuz that really doesn't make sense. I'm sorry.

45:57

Let me provide the proper context He

46:00

is reluding to something I did say a year ago,

46:02

which was, Damien Lillard

46:04

asked out, and he said, I

46:06

want to go to Miami. And

46:09

then when the Trailblazers said, no, we're not going

46:11

to send you to Miami, he expanded the list

46:13

by two teams, and it then

46:15

included the Milwaukee Bucks and the Brooklyn

46:17

Nets. And those are all facts. And

46:20

so I proclaim to you guys, hey, not

46:22

that you want Dame anyway, but that's

46:24

kind of amazing. It still doesn't include the

46:26

Knicks. And so he is

46:28

fighting me on that by saying, of course it

46:30

didn't include the Knicks. Jaylen Princeton was already here.

46:34

Touche, sir. Touche. We'll

46:36

do a few more of your calls on this,

46:39

and then we got to get to some baseball,

46:41

including why Met fans are now really pissed at

46:43

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46:45

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46:48

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Ready to start talking to your kids about

49:26

financial literacy? Number

49:34

one, they all wore black to Indiana on

49:36

Friday night as if it was a funeral.

49:39

We all know what happened. The Pacers responded.

49:41

They won game six. Any issue with that,

49:43

Tiki, or is that just typical sports stuff?

49:46

It's kind of, I don't know. I

49:49

don't know. You can't predict things like that. It's touching

49:51

it a little bit. So you think it was a

49:53

mistake? I think it was a mistake. Mistake, Lou King?

49:55

No. Really? I

49:57

have no issue with it. No. Confidence.

50:00

work though is the problem. Okay, right. But a lot

50:02

of things don't work, but you go into it with

50:04

confidence. Fair enough. My problem with it is that it

50:06

has zero effect on the game. Yeah.

50:08

It's like, Hey, what socks did I put

50:10

on today? It has zero effect on how

50:13

you, what's going to happen once you get

50:15

on the court. The only effect it could

50:17

have, and I don't buy that this is

50:19

an effect necessarily, is you basically taunting your

50:21

opponent. Right. So that's not an effect. That's

50:23

not an effect. That's a reaction. It causes

50:25

a reaction. Yes. But it doesn't really affect

50:28

like your mindset or,

50:31

or whatever's happening in the course of a

50:33

game or the opponent's mindset. It just, I

50:35

don't know. It just creates a reaction that

50:37

sometimes feels unnecessary. Yeah. In fairness, I don't

50:39

have an issue with it either. I think

50:41

that is showing confidence. Unfortunately, they didn't back

50:43

it up by winning game six, but if

50:46

they would have won game six, I think

50:48

it would have added to their dude-ness legacy

50:50

that they were black to Indiana and then

50:52

they closed the door. Here's the second one.

50:54

This one's a little trickier and this is

50:56

so under the radar. I appreciate my good

50:58

friend Michael Beseglia for informing me of this

51:00

Instagram post, but Dante Di Vincenzo. Oh

51:02

my God. I mean,

51:05

you see what he put on Instagram? I do

51:07

not. He was mocking

51:09

Tyrese Halliburton. So he put a picture

51:11

of Tyrese Halliburton with a guy with

51:13

glasses and then a picture of a

51:15

guy cleaning his glasses to

51:18

clear it up. And the next picture was

51:20

of Ben Simmons. And

51:24

then Halliburton responds in game

51:26

six and seven. What

51:28

do you think of that one? That's poking the

51:30

bear. It's poking the bear. Why would you do

51:32

that? Why would you do that? By the way,

51:34

he's not been Simmons, but Simmons doesn't even play.

51:36

Well, at least this guy plays. I think it

51:38

was a bad analogy. I think it

51:40

was more along the lines of he doesn't shoot,

51:42

which he didn't do early in

51:45

this series or really the games at Madison Square

51:47

Garden. But obviously in game six and seven, he

51:49

answered the call. That one's a little like, I

51:52

don't mind doing that after you win. Like

51:54

after you win, I think all bets are off. We saw

51:56

Halliburton do it back to the next with the Reggie Miller

51:58

sweatshirt. I think when you win. You know whatever do

52:00

what you want. I don't know

52:02

in the middle of the series comparing tyson's alibis

52:05

alibis to ben simmons That's

52:07

a bad one But does that stuff really

52:09

bother you though like teak former athlete question?

52:11

Like if you see that you think it's

52:13

more like playful probably we don't know They

52:15

might have a relationship or something like that.

52:17

Maybe if they have a relationship It's fine

52:19

and then it's just it's an internal thing

52:21

that we're not privy to but

52:24

sometimes those things get you in trouble I'll

52:26

never forget germany shockey and as we played

52:28

the inapples cults Is the

52:30

end of what his for rookie season? I think

52:32

and we gotta you remember this I

52:35

don't remember but I must alert before we go

52:37

any further at this mike beseglia has called me

52:39

frantically since you just mentioned his name Now he's

52:42

texted me that instagram post was fake Nice

52:47

i'm glad it was subjects over right but

52:49

anyways, I there was a there was a

52:51

damn dog Thought you had some dog in

52:53

you I was about to defend you there

52:56

was a cult player that said something the

52:58

shock You're sending a newspaper. Shockey's essentially just

53:00

a regular guy And so

53:02

in that game shockey sought him out Just

53:05

to like just simply to run

53:07

him over and he trucked him.

53:09

Oh, wow And it was ugly now. We

53:11

we beat him pretty badly I think we

53:13

scored every possession except the ones we know

53:15

and so shockey took offense. Yeah, so certain

53:17

guys will take offense Certain guys

53:19

will be like, yeah, okay, whatever. They gotta go play

53:21

the game. Yeah So i'm so pissed

53:23

that was fake. That's not really in dante's nature too.

53:25

I was like, I don't Josh

53:28

hard definitely would do that. But not dante. That's

53:30

pretty duped by that How did who

53:32

get it because it was I saw the the lake

53:34

it looked like it was dante d vincenzo Wanted it

53:36

to be real who wanted it to be real over

53:38

there. I wanted What

53:41

was that beseglia said yeah, but I want

53:43

to put it now we feel that clearly

53:45

he called up shorn frantically frantic He's embarrassed.

53:47

Well, wait a second. Mike beseglia has a

53:50

podcast himself It's a great

53:52

podcast. It's called fair weather fan. He

53:54

said it on his podcast My

53:57

song of course also in the coalition indicators.

53:59

That's That's irrelevant if

54:01

he's a card-carrying member or not. Not really.

54:04

Not really. But we don't make stuff

54:06

up. Listen, it's easy to be duped by

54:08

fake stuff. Yeah, but you've got to follow

54:10

the actual guy. You can't follow what somebody

54:12

sent you. Oh, this is now trending on

54:14

whatever social media site. Look, if you're not

54:16

following Dante, you can't claim to know what

54:18

Dante's putting out there. That is fair. Here's

54:21

the good news. We corrected it within three minutes of talking about

54:23

it on the air, right, Duke? I

54:26

was going to defend them, too. That

54:28

was awesome. That was badass. Let's get back to some

54:30

of your nick calls. We'll get into Lindor and the

54:32

Yankees coming up in a few minutes. Let's

54:35

go to Terrence and West Icelip. What's up, Terrence? Hey,

54:38

guys. Hey, Tiki. What's up, dude?

54:40

What's up, man? How about more talk about

54:42

the Von Mitchell from the C1? I

54:45

brought up Donovan Mitchell and both Lugi and Tiki said,

54:47

no, thank you. They didn't want them. Want to expound

54:50

on why you don't want Donovan Mitchell? For

54:52

me, it's mostly defensive. I think we

54:55

saw... Under-sized guard? Two underside guards

54:57

at this point. Didn't work well for

54:59

Cleveland either because Darryl and Scarlin's undersized

55:01

as well. You also have a ball

55:03

handling issue. I remember watching that Cleveland

55:05

series last year, the

55:07

Knicks-Cleveland series, and it was

55:10

like, who's running this offense? It

55:13

almost was interchangeable. It was like, all right, it's your turn.

55:15

All right, no, no, it's my turn. It's your turn. Then

55:17

when it got down to the crunch time, it became

55:19

like me boss. It became

55:21

selfish ball. I don't

55:23

like that dynamic even if it worked

55:26

in some cases, like with Damon... What

55:29

was his name out there in Portland? Damon...

55:32

McCollum? DJ McCollum. It

55:34

worked to an extent, but they also always hit

55:36

a ceiling. They always hit a point they couldn't

55:38

get over. So I'm

55:41

anti that. See,

55:43

I didn't even say this from the beginning. I'm not

55:45

really looking to add the type of player like Donovan

55:47

Mitchell. I'm more worried about bringing I-Heart back. I'm more

55:49

worried about bringing OG Ananobi back. They've obviously expounded on

55:51

Bridges and I've told you how much I want him,

55:54

but I'm not really looking for a guy like Donovan

55:56

Mitchell, especially when I don't get defense. I'm looking at

55:58

defense here because when Ananobi went down, they couldn't... stop

56:00

anybody before the animal betrayed the couldn't stop anybody I

56:02

need it deep on this team I don't think Donovan

56:04

fits anymore I think this was a year ago discussion

56:06

was just collect as many more TV those were the

56:08

two guys cuz remember we got Bronson Mitchell was out

56:10

there and I and that's to me when that you're

56:13

right that's when it was a discussion no doubt let's

56:15

go to mark in Manhattan hey mark hey

56:17

fellas how you doing great show so I want

56:19

to give you a trade proposal but

56:22

I wanted to say Evan you're great but I think

56:24

way off base on yesterday's take with as far as

56:26

the Knicks and the Knicks fans go and I think

56:28

I think the issue is is that you're

56:30

not a fan of the team and you

56:33

weren't emotionally vested in the whole thing but

56:35

that's the but mark you're right I can't

56:37

pretend I'm a Knicks fan I'm not I'm

56:39

open and honest about the fact I'm certainly

56:41

not a fan of them but what

56:43

I try to do what I try to

56:45

do maybe not successfully all the time is

56:47

put myself in other people's shoes and

56:50

act like this is how I would feel if this was

56:52

my team and I think what I've

56:54

shown you is that I'm very consistent that

56:56

I have never walked away from a season obviously

56:58

there's no perfect comparison in which I'm like

57:00

ah you know what we got the best

57:02

we can get and I'm happy that's never how

57:04

I felt and so that was the thing

57:06

I was confused by so yeah no

57:08

I get it but I think in a normal season

57:11

in a normal game 7 when you're

57:13

up two games to 0 and

57:15

your team blows it the way the Knicks you know

57:17

kind of blew it if you didn't have the injury

57:19

we would have been pointing to a ton of things

57:21

right we would have said all these reasons why but

57:23

because they poured their heart out and left

57:25

it every night not even just in the

57:27

playoff it was hard yes there was disappointment

57:29

but the fact that they played so hard

57:31

and had all these injuries kind of help

57:33

us you know cope with that so anyway

57:36

but on the trick on the trade proposal

57:38

yes I think your answer might be within

57:40

your own list that you gave us at

57:42

the top of the show because there's two

57:44

guys Devin Booker and Donovan Mitchell

57:46

both of whom have been linked to the net

57:48

so the Nets obviously like them so if the

57:50

Knicks have the resources to get one of those

57:52

two guys but not to get Michael bridges why

57:54

can't they get one of those two guys great

57:56

question than that it's a great question see I

57:58

at least you're being creative And you're giving me

58:00

something to think about but I will give you an answer to that if

58:03

I'm getting Donovan Mitchell And

58:06

I'm the Brooklyn Nets and I you know I have

58:08

a I have a love for Donovan Mitchell He's a

58:10

freakin Met fan, and he's a jet fan to do

58:12

I love that guy I envision

58:14

me and him sitting together you section 380 you

58:16

think you can keep him Okay

58:20

But even the Nets were getting Donovan Mitchell

58:22

I'd want to keep the Cal bridges like

58:24

it wouldn't make sense to flip

58:26

bridges to anywhere let alone the

58:28

Knicks To get back another star if you're getting

58:30

Donovan Mitchell if you're chasing Devin Booker You're doing

58:33

it with your own assets like the Nets have

58:35

a lot of draft capital I know we mocked

58:37

the fact they don't have their own picks, but

58:39

they have Phoenix's pick they have Dallas's pick like

58:41

they have Assets, so I

58:44

respect it, but I'm sorry it doesn't

58:46

work for me brother Anyone

58:48

who gets that reference? I know you do well you

58:50

got it. Oh, yeah, it doesn't work for me It doesn't

58:53

work for me brother that Hulk that was Hulk Correct

58:56

because in his contract he could say yeah, it

58:58

doesn't work for me brother He had that written

59:00

in you know so much about so many things

59:04

I thought you were going to Randy Jackson doesn't work for me dog

59:08

What do you say that's a no for me dog that's

59:10

a no for me dog yeah, yeah, I used to watch

59:12

that show Don't get me wrong, but now I was quoting

59:14

Hulk Hogan, but yeah Randy Jack. Maybe I'll do that

59:17

next time. I'll try JR

59:19

is in New Jersey. How you doing, JR? Hey,

59:22

Evan. It's how you doing today?

59:24

No, it's actually a honey Skywalker as well.

59:26

You may know me by and Yeah,

59:29

we got a we got to talk about

59:31

how bad My college bridges was after

59:33

the all-star break, and this is something that you're hiding from

59:35

the Knicks fan Is that this guy shot

59:38

41% after the all-star break

59:40

and was was horrible and? Because

59:43

people don't watch the nets I think you're getting away with

59:45

something just talking on our heartstrings trying to get another bill

59:47

Nova guy in there But I do have another trade for

59:49

you Continue what what

59:52

am I trying to hide like I want the Knicks fan

59:54

to want my Cal bridges is that what you're accusing? Yeah,

59:57

he was bad. He was bad. I know he was bad,

59:59

but I think there's things thinking would be out of

1:00:01

town if you were the next. It sounds like

1:00:04

you watch a lot of the nets, you know, okay, I love I

1:00:07

look who stock good. Don't

1:00:09

we all don't you think a lot of that

1:00:12

would be fixed if he was on a more

1:00:14

loaded roster like the Nick roster or like the

1:00:16

Phoenix roster. The Nets have been asking him to

1:00:18

be somebody he is not he is not

1:00:20

an alpha he is not a number one. That's

1:00:23

fine. The guy that you should be doing with OKC this

1:00:25

is the type of player that they need to add. There

1:00:29

you go now the guy that

1:00:31

I want your rock does came in Johnson because

1:00:34

one you're paying too much for 13 points again.

1:00:37

So he can fit in the bench and we can move by

1:00:39

the on the spot on the beach is a guy that they

1:00:41

can up into the contract and

1:00:43

move 20 million with a couple of

1:00:45

picks and get a player back. I like the

1:00:48

way the job since the guy are that's a

1:00:50

that's a good point and if the Nets move

1:00:52

into blow it up mode where you

1:00:54

know what we're at that collect. Yeah, so they

1:00:56

make that deal with Houston I talked about Kim

1:00:58

Johnson who's you know what is Nick name in

1:01:01

the coverage of the twins because they love each

1:01:03

other so much because they're bodies and I respect

1:01:05

that but Kim Johnson should say this because I'm

1:01:07

selling into the Nick fans is so freaking overrated

1:01:10

it makes me sick and if

1:01:12

yeah, we want to know no no he's good fit

1:01:14

for your team. He's a

1:01:16

good fit for your team. Okay, why

1:01:18

because he can shoot okay because he's

1:01:20

long over it over it because the

1:01:23

Nets right now aren't good enough. You

1:01:25

guys are you're in a different life cycle with

1:01:27

where you are so if the Nets are blowing

1:01:30

it up and now we're talking about hey you

1:01:32

want Kim Johnson for a couple of your number

1:01:34

ones and boy on by Donovich I'm talking and

1:01:36

I disagree with my fellow net fan to say

1:01:38

I can do business with the Knicks I can

1:01:41

so if they decide to go in blow

1:01:43

it up mode which is on the table

1:01:45

and bridges ended up somewhere else to the

1:01:47

end going to your team. We can talk

1:01:49

about Kim Johnson you want to talk about

1:01:51

it. No I want bridges and I'm going

1:01:53

to get bridges. That's the guy is only

1:01:56

about the Villanova connection and it's only about

1:01:58

putting the band back together. It's

1:02:00

only about looking at these young

1:02:02

kids when they were young kids

1:02:05

who won championships, who developed a

1:02:07

camaraderie and a work

1:02:09

togetherness that is displaying itself

1:02:11

on the NBA stage improbably,

1:02:13

right? Because what happens in

1:02:16

college doesn't translate to the

1:02:18

NBA. And maybe because we

1:02:20

just don't have enough guys from the same

1:02:22

championship winning teams playing on the same team

1:02:25

in the NBA. We just don't see it

1:02:27

very often. But now that it's

1:02:29

happened and we saw it and we experienced

1:02:31

it, you want more of it if you're

1:02:33

a Nick fan. And McHale Bridges is the

1:02:35

missing piece from that or at least one

1:02:37

of the missing pieces from

1:02:39

that Villanova championship team. So I get

1:02:41

it, right? It's not about Cam Johnson

1:02:44

being a better fit or anybody else. It's just

1:02:46

they want McHale Bridges. No, I get you. I

1:02:49

understand that. Because they think it's going

1:02:51

to like reignite. By the way, something. But

1:02:54

don't you think based on the success

1:02:56

that the Villanova tree has had, that

1:02:58

it probably would work? Yeah, of

1:03:00

course it would. I'll admit that. Especially because he's

1:03:02

not a below average NBA basketball

1:03:04

player. No, he's a very good NBA basketball

1:03:07

player. And to JR's point like yes, McHale

1:03:09

Bridges had a very disappointing season for the

1:03:11

Brooklynettes. The conclusion I drew after this season,

1:03:13

not just based on his performance, but certainly

1:03:15

based on the way he acted on that

1:03:17

dopey podcast, is that he's not an alpha.

1:03:20

He's not a leader. No,

1:03:22

you're right. He's on every level. Well, we've got to think

1:03:24

about it. The podcast showed more of the off-the-court stuff, the

1:03:26

on-the-court stuff. I watched with my own two eyes. But he

1:03:28

didn't need to be. And if he was-

1:03:30

With the nets he needed to be. Okay, I'm saying,

1:03:32

but I'm talking about Villanova. He didn't need to be.

1:03:34

And if he came to the Knicks, he wouldn't need

1:03:36

to be. Exactly why he's a good fit. For the

1:03:38

Knicks. Yeah, he's a great fit for the Knicks. Which

1:03:40

is why the Knicks want him. But you can't get

1:03:42

him. Okay. I mean,

1:03:44

you guys could want to say that until it happens. And

1:03:47

when it happens, you're going to be sitting here

1:03:49

apologizing to everybody. I would. And you got me

1:03:51

in a very tough spot here

1:03:53

because I'm about to finally cut my beard on

1:03:55

Friday at the Jersey Shore. Come out to DJ's

1:03:57

in Belmar. We'll be there all day long. The

1:04:00

beard will be caught. You can take pictures with

1:04:02

half a beard, take pictures with Tiki Barber, take

1:04:04

pictures with Sean Morash's belly. Lugio may believe he's

1:04:06

a dog. He's also being dressed up as the

1:04:08

Stanley Cup. It's going to be a fun, fun

1:04:10

day. You can touch him, Mr. Cup. Touch

1:04:13

the cup of your belly. You can touch that cup. Touch

1:04:15

the cup. Touch the cup. Okay.

1:04:19

Very nice. Lovely. I

1:04:21

am willing to bet you anything that the Cowbridge

1:04:23

is not being traded to the men. You

1:04:26

have me in such a spot that

1:04:28

whatever you want, I would give you

1:04:30

because there is not a chance in

1:04:33

hell. I can't even get through it

1:04:35

without laughing. Like, you're not trading

1:04:37

for them. The Knicks would never trade

1:04:39

straight up with the Knicks. We know that. They're

1:04:42

spiteful. Okay, so you admit this. No. The

1:04:45

three-way trade is where it's going to happen. It's not going to be a straight-up trade. We all

1:04:47

know that. They're never, ever going to trade straight

1:04:49

up. Yeah, but a three-way trade, you would involve talking

1:04:51

to everybody. So if they're dead set against trading them

1:04:53

to the Knicks, they wouldn't do it in a three-way

1:04:55

trade or a five-way trade. It doesn't matter. Here's the

1:04:57

problem, I think, that Lougies having and most people listening

1:04:59

to this are having. You're

1:05:01

claiming that the Knicks

1:05:03

can't get McHale

1:05:05

Bridges from the Nets because

1:05:08

the trade doesn't work. Because

1:05:10

they don't have enough to offer. Correct. But you're

1:05:12

approaching it or you're spitting this out

1:05:14

like you love the guy. I'm not.

1:05:17

I don't love the guy. I know you don't. It doesn't

1:05:19

make sense why you wouldn't want to work to make it

1:05:21

happen. Because you don't. You don't have the power to make

1:05:23

it work to happen. Because Tiki. But as

1:05:25

a voice of the Nets fans. Tiki, Tiki. Because they

1:05:27

don't have enough talk. And

1:05:29

by the way, I've sat here for an hour

1:05:31

and 16 minutes and no one has presented an

1:05:34

offer where I'd say, oh, I'd make that trade.

1:05:37

So until someone does that, like,

1:05:39

I'm right and you're all wrong. Because

1:05:42

you haven't even given me anything. I've given

1:05:45

you an hour. Where's your offer? What

1:05:47

are you, an eight-year-old? You're right and we're all wrong? What? What

1:05:50

do you mean, I am? What do you mean,

1:05:52

I am? You figure something out in an hour?

1:05:54

We've got plenty of time, my friend. I got

1:05:56

my trade proposal people working overtime to figure this out.

1:05:58

To take down you. to take down your

1:06:01

dopey basketball team and your coalition because it's going

1:06:03

to make you sick to your stomach when

1:06:05

we get bridges and we win that trip that I promised

1:06:07

over the last couple of years. It will come to fruition.

1:06:09

Well, you've been working for an hour. I got a text

1:06:11

message from a guy who's now clearly a part of the

1:06:13

show. Oh, is it the same guy that sent you fake

1:06:15

news that wasted three minutes of everyone's time on? Is

1:06:18

that the same guy? No, I'm talking about the great

1:06:20

Al Stronk, who actually came on yesterday because you weren't

1:06:22

here to argue with me, Antiki, about my whole opinion

1:06:24

on the next. No, he argued with you. He was

1:06:26

on my side. That's true, yes. My boomer

1:06:28

is sizing claim this morning. He thought he was going

1:06:30

to punch me in the face yesterday. Is that true

1:06:33

or not? No. What

1:06:35

have you ever seen me violent? That made me laugh.

1:06:38

Thought of violence. No, no, I've seen this is

1:06:40

what Boomer said. I know. I'm just asking you. I

1:06:43

am not a violent person. Because Boomer said, man, they

1:06:45

were going at it. I thought Tiki was going to

1:06:47

house them. Good luck. You're dead to me. I

1:06:51

love you, Boomer. Anyhow, Al

1:06:53

Stronk has texted me with a trade offer. He

1:06:55

tried to come up with the conclusion that you

1:06:57

have failed to even present to me. And what

1:06:59

I would tell you is while I do not

1:07:01

accept this trade offer, it was a great attempt.

1:07:03

You want to hear what it was? Does it

1:07:05

include deuce? No, but he

1:07:08

needs to include deuce next time, by the way. Julius

1:07:10

Randall to the Los Angeles Clippers. OK,

1:07:13

plus picks. I'm sure the picks will be sent out there. Paul

1:07:16

George to the New Orleans Pelicans and

1:07:19

then Brandon Ingram to the Nets with McElbridge is

1:07:21

going to the next. So it's a four

1:07:23

way. So it's a four way trade. And essentially,

1:07:25

I would get Brandon Ingram from McElbridge's. And

1:07:27

what I said to Al is I like

1:07:30

the effort, but no, thank you. Why is

1:07:32

that? Brandon Ingram. Like Brandon Ingram. I he

1:07:34

gets injured way too much. McElbridge is the

1:07:37

opposite of that. I never miss his game.

1:07:39

And I just don't feel like

1:07:41

Ingram will ever be like

1:07:43

that star star. I don't think he's an

1:07:46

alpha either. And so if I'm trading

1:07:48

bridges, I'm more likely to do it for just

1:07:50

a treasure trove of draft picks, plus picks. So

1:07:52

if you gave me Ingram and you gave me

1:07:54

like a crap ton of picks and I got

1:07:56

to see which picks they are, I'd be a

1:07:58

little bit more open to it. But

1:08:00

that's not exactly what you offered me. So nice

1:08:02

attempt by Al, who's working, you on the other

1:08:04

hand, Lugi, is just repeating over and over again

1:08:06

that you really, really want him. You know what?

1:08:08

Hey look, Al did it again. Oh, Al, Al

1:08:10

came, Al came ready. Al

1:08:13

came ready. He heard me say deuce and

1:08:15

he included deuce. He did not include deuce.

1:08:17

We're not dropping the deuce. He's getting me

1:08:19

Zion Williamson. Oh. With Mikel Bridges going to

1:08:21

the Knicks and Julius Randall. Let's

1:08:24

see who else. Zion Williamson coming to New York

1:08:26

City, shut the steak houses and the strip

1:08:28

clubs down. Imagine him right here. But Al's working.

1:08:30

He's giving me an attempt. You have given

1:08:32

me no attempt. Who do you want? I think

1:08:34

the question becomes who do you want? I

1:08:36

want like, what young-ish, is not gonna be a

1:08:39

22 year old, but what young, because

1:08:41

you want somebody who can actually play in that

1:08:43

success, what young player do you want to build

1:08:45

around? I want five number ones, including mine that

1:08:47

I sent to Houston and I want Jaylen Green

1:08:49

and then I'd make the trade. Okay, and you

1:08:51

guys don't have any of that. So open and

1:08:53

shut case. You're a pig. How about

1:08:55

this? I'm gonna offer you something that goes beyond picks,

1:08:57

that goes beyond players. And what are you gonna do

1:09:00

with those five picks? Just sit on them like the

1:09:02

Knicks do and then ultimately come on and not valuable?

1:09:04

No, eventually draft. Then screw it up. First of all,

1:09:06

if it's my picks back when I suck, there's a

1:09:08

reason to suck and I can draft somebody. Plus I

1:09:11

got the Phoenix picks. So trust me. So complicated, you

1:09:13

just suck to get the right draft picks. Well, what

1:09:15

other option do you have? And then you're gonna suck

1:09:17

and you're gonna draft some kid from Europe who nobody's

1:09:19

ever heard of and he's gonna basically disappear in two

1:09:22

years. So you're saying that shouldn't trade, McElbridge is

1:09:24

for drafting. I'm just saying the philosophy of

1:09:26

drafting, of sucking so you

1:09:28

get a top draft pick. So you're getting an

1:09:30

18 year old kid who maybe paid attention for

1:09:32

half the season and whatever stupid college you went

1:09:35

to and made $5 million in NIL money. The

1:09:38

team sucked and make the tournament. And all of a

1:09:40

sudden he's like, I'm just going to the league, man.

1:09:43

I'm good, man. I'm 19 years old. Oh, the Nets

1:09:45

took me great. I'm not gonna get developed here because

1:09:47

we change coaches every damn two years, right? So what

1:09:49

kind of plan is that? So what should the plan

1:09:51

be? Not that. Okay, so trade for

1:09:53

another star, which means you're not trading McElbridge's, which

1:09:55

means I win again. Like, what do you want from

1:09:57

me? You want to give up? Want to just move on?

1:10:00

Like, look at how the Knicks got a bill. Let's

1:10:02

all take a step back and see how they get

1:10:04

both. Patience. No, how did they get both? Patience. They

1:10:06

got a bill with patience, but how did they build

1:10:08

the team? Let's go through it. Started with a coach,

1:10:10

by the way. OK, they got the great head coach

1:10:12

in Tom Cibidow. OK? Absolutely.

1:10:15

They signed their second choice

1:10:17

in free agency in Julius

1:10:19

Randall. OK? They

1:10:21

signed a free agent in Jaylen

1:10:23

Brunson. They drafted RJ

1:10:25

Ballard when the year that they sucked,

1:10:27

and then they traded him along with

1:10:30

another kid that they drafted through OG

1:10:32

Ananobi. So the Knicks were built through

1:10:34

free agency and trade. No, they were

1:10:36

built through drafting and developing, making that

1:10:39

player desirable

1:10:42

someplace else, trading that person

1:10:44

for someone who could help win now, OG, et cetera.

1:10:47

And who were their two best players? They were both

1:10:49

signed as free agents. Jaylen Brunson. So they were built

1:10:51

in a unique way. I'm not putting that way down.

1:10:53

What I'm saying is there are a lot of different

1:10:55

ways to build in the NBA. And

1:10:57

there's no right answer. Look at how the

1:10:59

Denver Nuggets were built. Look at how the

1:11:02

Minnesota Timberwolves, the Minnesota Timberwolves, oh my god.

1:11:04

Yes, they got the right guy in Anthony

1:11:06

Edwards, no doubt. They've gotten the sort of

1:11:08

right guy in cat. They went

1:11:10

out and made what was viewed as the

1:11:12

dumbest trade in the history of basketball to

1:11:14

trade for Rudy Gobert. Well, they do. The

1:11:16

Celtics built their team through the draft picks

1:11:18

of another team. I agree. So there's a

1:11:20

lot of unique ways to build. Well, I

1:11:22

think you also have to build for your

1:11:24

problem. You have to draft a trade for

1:11:26

your problem. The reason that

1:11:28

it seemed stupid at the time for

1:11:31

Minnesota but ultimately became the

1:11:34

greatest trade ever for them is because they knew

1:11:36

that their problem was going to be yokies. And

1:11:39

how do you beat a big man that can

1:11:41

score around, get too big dudes? No, it really

1:11:43

worked out. Simple as that. Well, it really worked

1:11:45

out if they hit on Anthony Edwards. Well, that

1:11:47

too. Well, obviously, he scores like it's nothing. He

1:11:50

plays great defense. But their biggest, they were getting

1:11:52

beat by 20. No, no, but Chee.

1:11:54

And they decided to double yokies with the team.

1:11:56

My overall point is there's a million different ways.

1:11:58

I understand that. There's no right way. And there's

1:12:00

no wrong way. I guess the wrong way is just buying

1:12:02

superstars. But you also have to... Sometimes that works. I think

1:12:04

you also have to have a problem to solve. The

1:12:07

Minnesota Timberwolves had a problem they couldn't solve. And

1:12:09

nobody could in the Western Conference. And that was

1:12:11

Nikola Jokic. Well, your problem to solve is that

1:12:13

you guys can't get McElbrin. Just stop talking about

1:12:15

it. Stop dreaming about it. Evan, I have an

1:12:17

offer for you. It's not pay-to-sell players. It's something

1:12:20

more valuable than that. Redemption. You've been

1:12:22

sort of a D-bag over the last couple

1:12:24

years. You're the leader of the Nick Coalition

1:12:26

of Haters. If you're the

1:12:28

guy that... Just give us, McElbrin. Give

1:12:30

us the missing piece. Bring a championship

1:12:33

back to New York City. You got a seat

1:12:35

at the head of the table, my friend. There's

1:12:37

still a little good in that heart of yours

1:12:39

that's become a little black over the last

1:12:41

couple years. Redemption. How about that? No. No.

1:12:44

We'll come back and find out what pissed off

1:12:46

Met fans about Francisco Lindor now. We'll get to

1:12:48

it coming up. Plus some thoughts on the Yankees.

1:12:50

And if there was any concern off of their

1:12:53

loss last night, Evan Intiki on the fans. It's

1:13:07

Tuesday on this wonderful Tuesday. We're

1:13:09

getting some baseball coming up, including Aaron

1:13:11

Rodgers at OTAs. But it is 3.30

1:13:15

on a Tuesday, which means it's time for

1:13:17

another edition of Post It and Toast It.

1:13:19

It's time for Post It and Toast It.

1:13:22

That's right. Ready for another edition of Post

1:13:24

It and Toast It, where I read an old

1:13:26

social media post from one of our fellow WFN

1:13:28

co-workers and Tiki Gesses who posted it. Can't wait.

1:13:30

Let's go back to June 27, 2013. Hey,

1:13:34

Sean Morash. That was

1:13:36

me parking next to you. In

1:13:38

the famous words of Brian Cashman, shut

1:13:41

the F up, learn to drive

1:13:43

and get out of that parking spot.

1:13:46

Who posted that at Sean? Was

1:13:49

it Jerry Reko, Al Dukes,

1:13:51

Salicana, or Greg Gianotti? Who

1:13:55

is going to be that rude to

1:13:58

Sean on social media? What

1:14:00

was the date again? That would be June 27th of 2013.

1:14:05

So it's right... All

1:14:07

those guys are around in different capacities maybe than

1:14:09

where they are now. Oh, but you are. Where

1:14:11

were you that they were going? He's

1:14:15

so good at making this. I'm

1:14:17

gonna guess it's Al Reko being... Al

1:14:19

Reko? I mean, not

1:14:21

uh, uh, Jerry Reko being

1:14:23

funny. Couple of D-bags. You

1:14:25

are correct. Yeah. Did

1:14:27

you know that, Chon? Do you remember Jerry

1:14:29

Reko verbally yelling at you on social media

1:14:31

because you stole his parking spot? I have

1:14:33

zero idea what this is about. I was

1:14:35

working overnights then, Nick. In June? Yeah,

1:14:38

that was the first year of CBS Sports where I was

1:14:40

working overnight. Well, it's 7.22 AM. Hey,

1:14:42

Sean Morris, that was me parking next to you in

1:14:45

the famous words of Brian Kasman, shut

1:14:47

the F up, learn to drive, and get out of

1:14:49

the spot. I knew it had to be somebody in

1:14:51

the morning. So I didn't move quickly enough out of

1:14:53

my spot? That was the problem? Yeah. You

1:14:55

don't remember that? You know what? That was in a

1:14:57

premium spot. He needed the spot. And he was probably

1:15:00

on the phone like, with his wife or something. Clearly,

1:15:02

you were on the phone talking, you were moving. You're

1:15:04

one of these idiots that sit in a parking spot.

1:15:06

It's New York City. You gotta get out of the

1:15:08

spot. You can't sit there and congregate for an hour. Shouldn't you be working at

1:15:10

7.30? I think you, yeah, that's a

1:15:12

great question. No, but you have to switch. I did the morning, so

1:15:14

you have to switch because you're on the street. Now you don't have

1:15:16

to. Yeah. Now you can do it from your app.

1:15:18

And you don't have to go down. Because it used to be you

1:15:20

had to do it from your app. Right. And

1:15:23

then you had to go down and actually put the ticket in the window. Either

1:15:27

way, I'm team Jerry Reco. Let's

1:15:33

get to the post number two. This is from February 26, 2021. I

1:15:37

ate healthy for only four days. And I'm

1:15:39

already having food dreams. Last

1:15:41

night, I dreamt of eating at

1:15:43

Nashville hot chicken sandwich and churros

1:15:45

with vanilla ice cream. Pathetic. Was

1:15:48

that Chris McMonigle,

1:15:51

Sean Morehash, Greg Gianotti,

1:15:54

or Pete Hoffman? That's

1:15:57

the name for healthier individuals. comes

1:16:00

into the mix now, he's not traveling to do

1:16:02

anything. I

1:16:06

don't think, actually, what year was this?

1:16:31

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was down. I

1:16:46

look like you didn't want it to make the weirdest parts of

1:16:48

the social media post. Right. How

1:16:50

about the person who ate healthy for four

1:16:52

days and is dreaming of Nashville hot chicken?

1:16:54

I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say it's huff.

1:16:57

You're wrong. It was not Pete

1:16:59

Hoffman. Sean, do you know

1:17:01

who it is? I think it's Greg Gianotti.

1:17:04

You guys suck! Very

1:17:06

good. It was Greg Gianotti. What made

1:17:08

you think that? Because Greg does a lot of diets? Yeah,

1:17:11

and the way he fluctuates, I think he

1:17:13

does obsess at times. Only because

1:17:15

huff was on a massive diet two

1:17:17

years ago. Oh, right. Could have been him.

1:17:20

Well, that's why you guessed. That's why I guessed

1:17:22

him, but now I think I think about it. I think it was 2022,

1:17:24

not 2021. No, I knew

1:17:26

it. He was like 40 pounds. I knew it wasn't

1:17:28

me. Why? Cheeros. Overrated.

1:17:32

It's not with vanilla ice cream, dude. That's a

1:17:34

great comment. Not saying a bad overrated. People overrate

1:17:36

Cheeros. So if the tweet had said something slightly

1:17:38

different, like Twinkies or whatever. I actually don't like

1:17:40

Twinkies either. Warm chocolate chip cookie? Yeah, I mean.

1:17:43

You would have been like that. Could have been me.

1:17:45

Interesting. All right. Let's go to post

1:17:47

number three, June 15, 2021. Last

1:17:50

time, my very pregnant wife said she can't find

1:17:52

a dress for a wedding. I jokingly told her

1:17:54

to go to Dickson, get a tent. The

1:17:56

joke misfired. There's

1:18:01

multiple jokes. Hold on a second. I'll

1:18:03

read it one more time. I started laughing

1:18:05

because it is very funny. Last

1:18:07

night my very pregnant wife said she can't find a

1:18:10

dress for a wedding. I jokingly told

1:18:12

her to go to dicks and get a tent.

1:18:17

The joke misfired. Here we are. Here we

1:18:20

are. Here we are. Greg

1:18:23

Gianotti, Evan Roberts, Sean Moret, or

1:18:25

Salicado. It's either, it's one

1:18:27

of you two knuckleheads. All of us

1:18:29

had kids at the same time so it makes sense.

1:18:31

What year? So

1:18:34

it's... I

1:18:38

want to say that to you, Evan. You're

1:18:40

wrong. I definitely offended that you

1:18:43

would even say the same. At

1:18:45

the freaking Disneyland Hotel by myself.

1:18:48

That was Sean Moret. I know it was one of you

1:18:50

two. You don't know that you tweeted that, Jon? No, I've

1:18:52

said a lot of horrible things. I don't remember. That's a

1:18:55

great joke though. Good job by me. You know what? That

1:18:57

was a great joke. You know what? That

1:19:00

would backfire in my house for sure. I mean,

1:19:02

when your wife is pregnant, and look, it's been

1:19:04

four years now for me, the one

1:19:06

thing I've learned is I ain't even making a

1:19:08

joke even close to that. I'm

1:19:11

offended that Tiki thought it was me. Vince was 2021 or

1:19:13

2020? He was 2020. He

1:19:15

was off by a few months. A little

1:19:17

less than a year. I final posted a

1:19:20

day from October 7, 2015. I know

1:19:22

it was one of you two. None of these other guys said

1:19:24

babies at that time. That was a good call. Gio

1:19:26

had a baby right around then too. And Sal

1:19:29

too. Yeah, they actually nailed it. I don't know

1:19:31

Sal's wife or kid. I did my careful research

1:19:33

to give you four choices of people that all

1:19:35

had kids right around the same time. And

1:19:37

here's your final post. October 7, 2015. There's

1:19:41

no way women like men in full

1:19:44

beards. Stubble? Yes.

1:19:46

Full beards? No way. That's

1:19:49

BT. The

1:19:51

options are Brandon Tierney,

1:19:54

Al Dukes, Evan Roberts. Or

1:19:56

Tommy Lugauer. That's BT. You're

1:19:59

wrong. Tommy! It is not

1:20:01

me! You're wrong! What is it? It's

1:20:03

Aldukes! A nice round ass. A guy

1:20:05

who doesn't have a beard and never

1:20:07

would. What made you so

1:20:09

confident that was BT by the way?

1:20:12

Because he like waffles with his

1:20:14

beard. Ahhh! Like sometimes

1:20:16

it's like it's full-ish, then it's

1:20:18

like trimmed down, then it's gone. He

1:20:21

never has it consistent. I love being dirt!

1:20:24

I was committed to finding a

1:20:26

beard tweet because I am so

1:20:28

excited about Friday. On Friday

1:20:30

we're going down to the Jersey Shore, we're doing

1:20:32

our Kickoff the Summer event at DJ's. And one

1:20:34

of the things we're doing down there is I'm

1:20:36

finally shaving this beard. And I'm shaving this beard

1:20:39

for a couple of very important reasons. Number one,

1:20:41

I gotta get this med team going. They're a

1:20:43

freaking mess and we gotta try anything. So

1:20:45

it's more than just Pete Alonso, it's everything

1:20:47

about this team. Maybe cutting the beard will

1:20:50

do some good. The second

1:20:52

reason I'm doing it, I gotta stop

1:20:54

this Ranger run. I've heard about playoff

1:20:56

here. It's gotta stop, okay? That's number

1:20:58

two. And number three, and

1:21:00

this is the real reason. My wife

1:21:02

is just done with it. Like, I

1:21:06

gave you seven months of this. Enough's

1:21:08

enough! So

1:21:10

coming up on Friday, I will shave, or Tiki will

1:21:13

shave, one part of my beard and hair. And then

1:21:15

we'll do the other part an hour later. So at

1:21:17

least for an hour I'll look like a circus freak.

1:21:19

I look forward to that. Now speaking of the Mets,

1:21:22

the Mets are obviously a mess right now. They lost

1:21:24

in a very pathetic way last night to the Cleveland

1:21:26

Guardians in which they scored one run. The

1:21:29

one run they scored came on

1:21:31

a home run from Tomas Nido.

1:21:34

That's how bad they are. And they made

1:21:36

base running mistakes. And they

1:21:38

played sloppily. And part of the

1:21:41

issue continues to be the slumping

1:21:43

of Francisco Lindor. But

1:21:45

it wasn't just the Ofer that pissed

1:21:47

off Mets fans last night about Lindor.

1:21:50

They were annoyed by two things. The

1:21:53

first thing I want to play for you, and you tell

1:21:55

me if you have any issue with this, I will

1:21:57

let you know if I as a Mets fan have any issues with this.

1:22:00

with this same with Lugia as a Met fan

1:22:02

Francisco Lindor was asked in his return to Cleveland

1:22:04

because last night was his return to Cleveland for

1:22:06

the first time since he was traded what do

1:22:09

you miss most about being

1:22:11

a Cleveland then Indian now

1:22:13

guardian? Well there's nothing

1:22:16

better than winning I

1:22:18

know we don't think there's ultimate goal and

1:22:20

we can close it out but

1:22:22

just the the exchanges

1:22:24

of winning and um only

1:22:28

champagne on each other and creating memories that

1:22:30

way with team and

1:22:32

their family the whole type family um

1:22:35

front office is a great experience

1:22:37

and seeing the crowd how they

1:22:39

got behind us with their Rodney

1:22:42

Talos and when he was

1:22:44

all red and all white

1:22:46

it was pretty cool. So

1:22:48

he misses winning and

1:22:50

that triggered a lot of Met fans to hear

1:22:52

the star of the Mets has done very little

1:22:54

winning since being here. He won a year. They

1:22:57

had one sort of successful

1:23:00

season but by the way they flamed out at the

1:23:02

very end. Of course they didn't want it mattered most

1:23:04

but I could see that he's not

1:23:06

saying this anti-Met he's just saying it as

1:23:08

we won a lot when I was in

1:23:11

Cleveland. So I mean that

1:23:13

one's all good. Isn't that fine? You take

1:23:15

issue with that? I was not bothered by it

1:23:17

and I'll tell you specifically why. I wasn't

1:23:20

bothered by it because I don't look

1:23:22

at the Mets overall failures over the

1:23:24

last few years as a Francisco Lindor

1:23:26

issue. Yeah I don't. Now this year is different

1:23:28

and we'll get to that in a second but when I look

1:23:30

overall at 21, 22, and 23

1:23:32

he's been here for three years. This is his fourth year. 21 they

1:23:35

were in first place most of the year and fell apart. He

1:23:38

had the thumbs down issue and got off to

1:23:40

a really really bad start and yeah I would

1:23:43

say he was a part of the non-winning. In

1:23:45

2022 he was a big part of the winning

1:23:47

until the collapse and last year he didn't

1:23:49

have a bad year. No. Like did he slump

1:23:51

when everyone else was slumping? Sure but Lindor to

1:23:54

me was not the problem last year so the

1:23:56

reason why for me that comment

1:23:58

didn't trigger me is that I

1:24:00

don't view Lindor as the reason why the Mets haven't

1:24:02

won. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think

1:24:04

that he is, and he also is accountable.

1:24:08

He stands up and he answers all the questions

1:24:10

all the time. So it almost, you're

1:24:13

not forgiving him, but at least

1:24:15

he's answering the questions. And so he

1:24:18

presents as the leader and

1:24:21

he takes the bullets whenever you want to. And

1:24:23

this is, like this should be a

1:24:25

layup question, like an easy question you're just asking,

1:24:27

yeah, you know, you played first part of your career

1:24:29

here. What do you miss? The

1:24:31

clubhouse attendant, I don't know, whatever. Something like

1:24:34

that. But they won a lot. That's

1:24:37

all he's talking about. And by won

1:24:39

a lot. I mean, they lost the seventh game

1:24:41

of a World Series in which they essentially collapsed.

1:24:43

True. OK. Yeah, they didn't win a World Series,

1:24:45

but they were in the World Series. You know

1:24:47

what? That answer is up. That part of the

1:24:49

answer is for the Cleveland Indian Guardian fans to

1:24:51

kind of comprehend. I don't really care about that

1:24:54

part, but I will be honest with my fellow

1:24:56

Mets fans, I was not triggered by that. There

1:24:58

was something else that Lindor that triggered me. There

1:25:01

was something else. Before I tell you what that was,

1:25:03

any issue with that comment? Luke? Absolutely not. I think

1:25:05

this is Mets fans being insecure. What is he going

1:25:07

to say? That's what he misses. The rock and roll

1:25:09

Hall of Fame? It's what he missed. That's what he

1:25:12

said. Totally fair. I'll

1:25:14

tell you what pissed me off. And I want

1:25:16

to make something very, very clear about Francisco Lindor. I

1:25:18

have not viewed him over the years as the problem,

1:25:20

like I just said. I think

1:25:22

sometimes he becomes the whipping boy. I think

1:25:24

sometimes it's unfair. I think

1:25:26

there are a lot of people to blame for the

1:25:28

Mets struggles, not just this year, but over the years.

1:25:31

Right now, what I'm about to talk about is now.

1:25:34

That's what I'm going to talk about. I'm not talking

1:25:36

about last year, not relitigating last year. I'm not relitigating

1:25:38

his stats. I'm not relitigating his path. I think we

1:25:41

do too much of that. I don't want to do

1:25:43

that. I want to talk about right now. Francisco Lindor

1:25:45

is hitting 193. That's

1:25:48

the bottom line. That is

1:25:50

unacceptable. Is he the only

1:25:52

problem in this offense? He's not the only problem,

1:25:54

but right now I'd argue he's their biggest problem,

1:25:56

because when you are one of the best players

1:25:58

on a team. When you are a

1:26:01

guy who's expected to go 30 and

1:26:03

100, you can't be hitting 193.

1:26:07

I thought the two hits at the end of the

1:26:09

Miami game on Sunday would be a building block. He

1:26:11

went 0-4 yesterday. Yeah. But

1:26:13

that's not what triggered me either. Because, okay, he's

1:26:15

not performing. It is what it is. He's also

1:26:18

been moved around the lineup a little bit. He's

1:26:20

leading off. To get him going. He led off

1:26:22

yesterday. So, you're right. But that

1:26:25

happens. It just feels like at a quarter

1:26:27

point in the season, because we're now a quarter

1:26:29

of the way through the Major League Baseball season,

1:26:32

you should start playing to the back of the card. A

1:26:35

thousand percent. He needs to get going. That's

1:26:37

obvious. But I will tell you

1:26:39

the thing that bothered me. And I think Met

1:26:41

fans will know this. I'm not crazy, man. I

1:26:43

don't jump to conclusions of being angry for every

1:26:45

little thing. I get angry when I

1:26:47

get angry. And I don't think it's as often as people

1:26:50

think. So, when

1:26:52

Lindor hugs an opponent, I

1:26:54

may tell you it annoys me a little bit. But

1:26:56

it doesn't anger me that much. There are times,

1:26:58

especially when you're losing. Hey, I don't need to

1:27:00

see you make out with a guy at second

1:27:02

base. Like, I'm not interested right now. Mainly

1:27:04

because the team is struggling. When the team is playing well,

1:27:07

don't care about it as much. Yeah. It

1:27:09

was something last night, and I'm going to admit it triggered me. In

1:27:11

the eighth inning. And I'll tell you why it triggered

1:27:13

me. It triggers me because I'm the schmuck who sits

1:27:16

there and watches every night innings every day. And

1:27:18

I get the scorecard ready. And I hold out

1:27:20

hope that this is the day where things turn

1:27:23

around. So, I'm the loyal

1:27:25

idiot that watches them all the

1:27:27

time. And so, maybe that's why I was

1:27:29

annoyed. In the bottom of the eighth

1:27:31

inning of a three-to-one game in which the offense

1:27:33

has been limp, Francisco Lindor makes this incredible play

1:27:35

against Tyler Freeman. Incredible play. I would

1:27:37

compare it to the Jeter play, the jump throw. Initially,

1:27:40

the first best umpire called him safe. The

1:27:42

Mets challenged it. I wasn't sure

1:27:44

they were going to overturn it, but they did. Okay.

1:27:48

Great. What am I complaining about? After

1:27:50

they overturned it, Francisco Lindor started

1:27:53

bowing to the crowd with

1:27:55

a big smile on his face. He's

1:27:58

bowing. He's having a good time. I

1:28:00

have never been against players showing

1:28:02

emotion. I never will. I got

1:28:04

a problem when the team sucks

1:28:06

and you suck. That's the

1:28:09

only time, and here's what I would equate it

1:28:11

to as a former football player and you, Sean,

1:28:13

as a diehard football fan. You

1:28:16

are a pass rusher. You

1:28:19

are paid to sack the quarterback,

1:28:22

okay? You've done none of that

1:28:24

this season. I'm not saying

1:28:26

you've been terrible your whole career. I'm saying

1:28:28

this season, you've done nothing. Why does this

1:28:30

bother you so much? I don't know. I

1:28:32

think it's because I sit there every night

1:28:35

and watch this and this one bothered me.

1:28:37

So you're a pass rusher and you're paid

1:28:39

to hit the quarterback and you're paid to

1:28:41

sack the quarterback and in a game in

1:28:43

which you're losing because you haven't touched the

1:28:45

quarterback, you got a tip on

1:28:47

a football. You deflected it away. Nice little

1:28:50

play, great play. I don't need

1:28:52

you celebrating. The team is losing and you're

1:28:54

struggling and I'm sorry. I'm admitting this to

1:28:56

my fellow Med fan. This is one of

1:28:58

those rare moments where maybe I'm irrational, maybe

1:29:01

I've lost my mind, maybe the Nick

1:29:03

fans have caused this, maybe it's your

1:29:05

fault. But when I sat there

1:29:07

last night, being the loyal idiot

1:29:10

that I am, watching every

1:29:12

Met game, scoring every Met game, I didn't

1:29:14

need to see him bow. I

1:29:16

didn't need to see it. You're hitting 193. How

1:29:18

about your rope one up the alley? Okay, so tell

1:29:20

me where I'm going. Jorge Lopez, as

1:29:23

soon as this play happens, is turning

1:29:25

around, engaging Francisco and Dorr, that

1:29:28

was amazing. All right, so he's

1:29:30

smiling about it, they challenge it. It's like, oh, it's

1:29:32

a great play. Yes, I know they're

1:29:35

losing the game, but if you're gonna be pissed

1:29:37

off, be pissed off at Brandon Nimmo for looking

1:29:39

at strike three or Peter Lonzo, the batter before,

1:29:41

and the seventh inning, looking at the top of

1:29:43

the eighth inning. Oh, you mean the guys that

1:29:45

had hits last night? Looking at strike three. You

1:29:47

mean the guys that actually got base hits last

1:29:49

night? Right, exactly, but still. But leave the women

1:29:51

old for four, you're hitting 193, bro. I

1:29:54

understand that, but in the eighth inning, it matters. And

1:29:57

you look at the third strike, you look at the

1:29:59

third strike. door then gets up and he throws

1:30:01

a bow, at the end of the day,

1:30:03

you still have to have fun, even if you're not winning. And

1:30:06

I think Francisco Lindor is trying to be that. That's

1:30:08

what a leader does when the team is down. He

1:30:12

tries to bring some, I don't know,

1:30:14

enjoyment to the malaise that

1:30:16

is surrounding this team. And I think it's part of the

1:30:19

problem. We talked about this a couple of days ago, or

1:30:21

maybe it was last week. The

1:30:24

fact that the expectation was

1:30:26

neutered by David Stearns and this

1:30:28

organization before the season started, you can't tell me

1:30:31

it's not having an effect. No,

1:30:33

no, no. Maybe. I

1:30:35

don't know. You can't tell me it doesn't have an effect on

1:30:38

these guys. And you watch them

1:30:40

and it looks like a grind. It looks like

1:30:42

this is not enjoyable. And if baseball is not

1:30:44

enjoyable, trust me, you're going to suck because you're

1:30:47

going to hate going to work every day. Baseball

1:30:49

is not enjoyable because they're not playing well. They're

1:30:52

not winning. They're not winning. You

1:30:54

can be not playing well and winning and

1:30:57

everything is all good. You get

1:30:59

outstanding pitching performance. And when Diaz comes and

1:31:02

he closes everything, you win one-nothing. And

1:31:04

you're winning. It's going to be

1:31:06

fun. You're losing and it is not fun.

1:31:09

Exactly. And it's permeating this entire

1:31:11

team. Well, the losing... And you feel it. The

1:31:13

losing created expectation was so bad. I don't know

1:31:15

if I can blame that on the expectation. But

1:31:17

what else can you blame? Because David served this

1:31:20

multiple times. Why is Pete Alonso hitting 210? Why

1:31:23

is Francisco Londor hitting 193? Why

1:31:25

is Brandon Nimmo half reliable

1:31:27

and half not? Why is

1:31:30

Brett Beatty a shell of himself? Why of

1:31:32

all these things? All these guys are underperforming all at

1:31:34

once? The owner of the team. That doesn't make sense

1:31:36

to me. But here's what I disagree. The owner of

1:31:38

the team and the president of the team said

1:31:40

point blank, I think there's a

1:31:43

playoff team. Now most people

1:31:45

disagreed with them, which they have a right to

1:31:47

do. So when you say they lowered the expectations,

1:31:49

Steve Cohen even recently said, I still think they're

1:31:51

a playoff team. So I understand. That's relative. I

1:31:53

know I get okay, but a playoff team. They

1:31:55

don't look like a... You could be some 500

1:31:58

and be a playoff team with the extra... playoff

1:32:00

team right now barely and look all I

1:32:02

know is that they win three more games

1:32:04

four more games their playoff I understand that's

1:32:06

why I hold out hope that's why I

1:32:08

sit there every night thinking maybe this is

1:32:10

where they turn things around but what bothers

1:32:12

me is that like and look

1:32:14

I admit where I'm wrong the reason I

1:32:16

thought the Mets would be good this season is

1:32:18

I thought their pitching would be decent enough starting

1:32:20

pitching which I think is qualified like look at

1:32:23

Tyler McGill yesterday if Tyler McGill gives me five

1:32:25

innings three runs you know what keeps you in

1:32:27

the game yeah and the bullpen does a good

1:32:29

job other than the Edwin Diaz meltdowns that we've

1:32:31

seen recently their bullpen for the most part has

1:32:33

been good outside of the Diaz meltdowns their rotation

1:32:35

has been acceptable they're not scoring runs and like

1:32:38

Brett Beatty may just not be a good major

1:32:40

leaguer for right now they're getting no production out

1:32:42

of catch or even though Nito hit a home

1:32:44

run yesterday the thing that's tough to understand

1:32:46

is that three four guys I'll include

1:32:48

McNeil I'll be nice they have resumes

1:32:50

of being good baseball players I know

1:32:52

and starting with Lindor more than anyone

1:32:54

else right now they're

1:32:57

not even close like Alonzo's

1:32:59

been hot for a couple of weeks Brandon

1:33:01

Nemo's had his moments the last couple of

1:33:03

weeks Lindor is giving you nothing and I

1:33:06

have never been a Lindor

1:33:08

basher this is not about bashing

1:33:10

Francisco Lindor this is about in this

1:33:12

moment he's sitting 193 and

1:33:15

I said something to you a month ago and I'm gonna

1:33:17

bring it up right now because the timing is perfect you

1:33:20

said when do you get worried Evan because I always kept

1:33:22

saying it's early it's early it's early and I I'll

1:33:24

test you guys I'll see if you remember what I meant by this

1:33:26

I said well I call it the Derek Cheater test do

1:33:29

you remember the Derek Cheater test it's

1:33:31

okay if you don't I do not I

1:33:33

said to you Derek Jeter taught me that

1:33:36

you wait to a memorial day and the

1:33:38

reason I said that is in 2004

1:33:40

Derek Jeter who by the way Lindor

1:33:42

is not Derek Cheater this is not

1:33:44

about comparing the two it's that Derek

1:33:46

Jeter in late May of 2004 was

1:33:49

hitting 187 oh yeah he had an OPS of

1:33:51

563 and I was down in

1:33:56

Baltimore because I live down there and

1:33:58

I watched Derek Cheater on May 26th,

1:34:01

you can look up the exact date. About May

1:34:03

26th, May 27th, all of a sudden, it's

1:34:05

like, okay, it's go time. And

1:34:08

Derek Jeter got so freaking hot that

1:34:11

you forgot about the bad start, he made

1:34:13

up for lost time, and Jeter had a

1:34:15

fine season. And what that taught me was,

1:34:17

hey guys, get off the bad starts. When

1:34:20

does a bad start become a bad season? Memorial

1:34:23

Day. So, TikTok,

1:34:25

TikTok. Like a week. If Derek

1:34:27

Jeter taught me, you can wait

1:34:29

till that moment, there's still enough

1:34:31

time. We are getting

1:34:33

there. Because the return to

1:34:36

Cleveland, coming off two hits in

1:34:38

his last two up-hats against Miami, this is the

1:34:40

moment. This is the moment where he

1:34:42

proves me right, and everyone else right, that, hey,

1:34:44

he's fine, just look at the back of the

1:34:46

baseball card. Well, I'm sick and tired

1:34:49

of saying that. And I think that's

1:34:51

why an innocent bow in the eighth

1:34:53

inning after a great defensive play annoyed me.

1:34:55

Because I defend him, I've held out hope,

1:34:57

and last night was one of those nights

1:34:59

where I'm shrugging my shoulder, saying, is this

1:35:01

just going to be an awful season? Like,

1:35:04

are you ever gonna hit? So,

1:35:08

that's where I'm at. Yeah, I mean, it feels

1:35:10

like eventually it'll come back

1:35:12

around, just like we thought with

1:35:14

Aaron Judge, eventually it came back around. And it

1:35:16

has. We don't even talk about it anymore. And

1:35:18

it has, the Aaron Judge test. Yeah,

1:35:21

but his was earlier, Memorial Day. Yeah,

1:35:23

I'm being more patient. I'm waiting for

1:35:25

Memorial Day. Because there is a

1:35:27

line, when you

1:35:29

go from it's a bad start,

1:35:32

which happens, to it's

1:35:34

a bad season. When

1:35:36

you, and for everyone it's different. And again,

1:35:38

I'm proud that I've been patient. In

1:35:41

middle of April, it's early. Early May,

1:35:43

I've said that to you over and

1:35:45

over again. And I stand by that,

1:35:47

but there comes a moment where it's like, it's

1:35:49

not early anymore. And it gets compounded when the

1:35:51

team's not playing well. Yeah, they're not winning. Nobody's

1:35:53

picking them up. And oh, by

1:35:55

the way, he's bowing after a great defensive play. I

1:35:58

like Francisco, this is not perfect. You know I

1:36:00

like them, but I sat there last night, and

1:36:02

I was at my witch's end you are right

1:36:05

though It is the equivalent of the demonetry more

1:36:07

sack dances 3510 I

1:36:09

agree with you heaven no time for that

1:36:11

when one Lindor opens another closes. Thank you

1:36:13

what Oh Nick isn't Queens What's up, Nick?

1:36:17

Hey, what's up, Evan? How's it going? What's up?

1:36:19

How you doing, man? I? Am

1:36:23

so tired of waiting for one

1:36:25

door It's every year with this guy

1:36:27

last year. He was batting on the

1:36:29

200 when he got into May

1:36:31

this year It's the same exact thing you

1:36:34

know and the team is it's thinking

1:36:36

bro. It's not going anywhere and

1:36:38

I the guys can

1:36:40

pay 36 million dollars a year and You

1:36:43

know he's batting under 200 and we're Multiple

1:36:47

games on the 500 it where is

1:36:50

it going from here? Well? It's

1:36:52

not good. It's not gonna turn around unless

1:36:54

he starts hitting He's one of the best

1:36:56

players on the team like when

1:36:59

you ask about Brett Beatty Or

1:37:01