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Welcome to Escape This Podcast,

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a show that's a mix between

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tabletop roleplaying and escape

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room puzzles. This is the seventh

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room of the fourteenth season of

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the first show we ever made.

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This episode we have guests come on and

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they play through an escape room that exists

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just in the audio space with a little

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bit of the digital space and a couple

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of pictures and I suppose in the physical

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space. It exists in a lot of spaces

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but it's mostly audio. And

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this episode we have two returning guests. Welcome

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back for the first time since Season

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3 I think we just worked out.

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Welcome back Jason Ritter. Hello. That can't

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be right. So excited to be back.

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Can't be more than Season 3. Did I make

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that up? I think you've made that up. Season like

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12? Maybe. Five. Five's so

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much closer than three. It's an odd number. In

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that case we don't even care. Seven? I'm

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just throwing out odd numbers. Twenty-one? Twenty-one?

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Be optimistic. Very impressive. It'll be very relevant to

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solve the room. Oh. But

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you won't be alone solving this room. You'll

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be joined by first time guest for you

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to play with but many time guest

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of the show. Welcome back Matt Uhl.

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Hey, how's it going? Hi, nice to see you guys.

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Welcome. Happy to be here. We're

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very excited to have you on. I think you

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two will work well together as a team. I

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think you'll solve everything in 10 seconds and you'll

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be done with the room and you'll be like,

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where's the rest of it? We'll be like, oh

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no, we'll have to improv for 50 minutes. I

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think that's a fair guess. I hope so.

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Now we have only the

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room to embarrass ourselves. Exactly.

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We're very excited to have you back on.

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Jason, we usually start this week. We ask

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about like people's escape room experience. I

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will preface this by stealing your stories

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already by saying we were recently in

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LA doing some escape rooms with

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you and had a lot of fun doing some

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very cool rooms. So,

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what I will ask formally,

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hey Jason, are there any updates to your

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escape room experience since last year on the show?

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Yes. I did

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a very weird 10

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minute long escape room. That

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was my daughter's first escape room.

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And it was my first family

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escape room with Melanie and my

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daughter. And it mostly

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just was me running around trying to

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figure out this strange... The video was

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broken. All of

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the sound cues were way too

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loud. And

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it was very weird. Like, you would figure

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out a puzzle and you would hear

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piped in an incredibly loud

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creak that would drown out the sound of whatever

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little thing opened in the room. And

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then you wouldn't know what it was.

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And also with 10 minutes, and also

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my daughter was pirate themed and she was a

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little bit like, it's too loud! And I was

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just like, it'll be quick, let me just figure

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out all these puzzles. So

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I kept on being like, hi, I need a little help. And

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then you'd be like, look under the swords. And I was

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like, oh, that's... There's

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no worse thing in an escape room when you know

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something has opened, but it's in no way obvious. One

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of the first rooms that we did was

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one where it was like, once you solve a

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puzzle, it'll unlock a drawer.

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What are the drawers? Well, they all look like

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cobblestones and they are randomly

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placed throughout a wall of cobblestones. And one

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of them will now be loose. So please check

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all 70 cobblestones to see if

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one of them is loose now. That's the one you

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unlocked. You're like, hey, that's not a puzzle. That's nothing.

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What are we doing? That's just a

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time consuming task. take

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the 10 minute escape room but you want to sell

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tickets for 40 minutes and you're like, I don't know,

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check all the cobblestones over and over and over again?

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Yeah, that'll be good. They'll love that. Exactly. When

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you said a weird escape room, I thought you were going

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to talk about the one that we did together in LA,

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which involved multiple puppets

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and strange

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characters and a very

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odd setting and like

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rave music. It was very, that was also

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a very strange escape room. It was.

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And it also had some very loud sound

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cues. I remember when all of a sudden

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that rock music started on the strobe lights

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and there was a wolf guy trying to

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tap us from, oh no, it was a

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chicken. The chicken didn't want you

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to take their egg. Yeah. And

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also in that one, when we had to crawl

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through at the end and there was like a

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wolf or a witch chasing us, I

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was legitimately frightened,

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I will admit. I agree.

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I was rotten. I still have a slight

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scar on my leg from scrambling through that

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tunnel because that was so scary. That

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might have been me biting you trying to get a

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hand. I was just so panicked.

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Every man from a store, whoever's watching. And

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Matt, do you have any updates to your escape

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room experience? You were on the show not too

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long ago. So I can't imagine that. What was

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the last one? What was the point? The lighthouse

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episode from I think last season. Yeah,

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that was intense. Yeah. It

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was good. One that I ran. Oh, right. That

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makes sense. No, all

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my most recent room escaping was with you guys.

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It was either when you guys came out here

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or on your show. So I have not done

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any escaping of rooms between then and now. So

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I know I won't be rusty because I've never been particularly good

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at it. So we're going to get

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to go. We did on the same trip that we were

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doing ruins with Jason. We did some ruins with you and

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had a lot of fun. They were very, very good

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rooms. I don't think I could have handled the one that

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you talked about with the chickens and the wolves and the

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crawl. But you could not have. I was doing it for

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real. I was getting a real cool escape from people like

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us and Jason. You could handle it, kid. LA

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style. Yeah. Nice.

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So the other element of this show is it's escape

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rooms mixed with the sort of tabletop role playing

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style. So go in reverse order. Matt, what is

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your recent tabletop role

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playing experience? I actually have this this time.

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Me and my brother have been doing, there's

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a place in Portland down the road for

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me called TPK Brewing. They brew beers. And

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they have Game Masters and Dungeon Masters on

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call at the bar. So they

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run games there and they do like an ongoing storyline

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in the world they created. We missed chapter

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one, we did chapter two and we just started chapter

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three and it's fun. It's every other

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week on a Saturday night at a bar eating food

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and playing D&D with a

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group of very nice people. So very

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quickly. Excellent. What's your character like?

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He's a cleric of domain of knowledge. I

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have skill proficiency in just about everything. That

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never comes up. It's okay. One

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day. He's

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a very nice fellow. And

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he's always sad when you're like I'm going to go to this campaign,

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I'm going to have a character who's going to be like all this

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is all skill change, you're going to know everything, he's going to know

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all these things. And they go, great, this campaign is set in a

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dungeon and you just fight the entire time. Ah! You got me. For

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the one tip that I have

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learned from multiple pieces of media

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about role playing things is

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if it feels like there is going to

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be a murder mystery involved, always

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pick a special skill of smelling. You've

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got to be able to smell. It's a cheat code. Lovely.

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And then, Jason, have

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you had any role playing, tabletop role playing

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experience since last you were

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on the show? Not since last I was

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on the show. It's funny, most

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of my Dungeons and Dragons

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experience was with my friend, all

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we really had was a piece of paper and like a

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dice bag and the rest was just

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our dungeon

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master and my friend, Jasper. Who just

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had this incredible imagination and

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would just come up with these worlds. uh

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they were brutal and funny and

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uh amazing as far as tabletop

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sort of role-playing games i

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have been trying since

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probably 1990 to

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get my brother and my sister to

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play this we we played this game

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called hero quest which was like a

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milton gladly like board game version where

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you're as a dungeon master is argon

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you everything's laid out like you get

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a little map with all where the monsters are and

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all this stuff and it was so fun and

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i i got like all

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four extension packs and there's

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like all these quests that

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i have ready to go and

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it's just about trying to get

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people to sit down and play

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that's that's the challenge every time

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yeah but no one ever has

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the time to sit down and

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play so

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with that being all said i

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think we're good to get into the actual game how's

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everyone feeling are you are you ready to

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i'm feeling escited escape

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sorry what so one more time i don't

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think that's a word just one more time

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i'm excited i don't know how you pronounce

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that one it's just excited

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you just say it's fine i'm

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ecstatic that's

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closer i'm

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very excited one in all right

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as usual ready in that case danny i

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think you can let's morph you two into

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one character body and get this thing started

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you knew getting your super rich event manager

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uncle to give you this usher job would

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pay off one day you just knew it

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you've sat through awards conferences

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school recitals every

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boring thing the concert hall could possibly hold

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but finally it's a concert the

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first international tour of

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legendary band mousetail and

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you get to stand at the edge

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of aisle ee view of the stage

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mostly unobstructed You

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get through the usual part, leading people to

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their seats, giving suspicious looks at people who

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were brought outside food but not actually caring

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enough to confiscate. Then you lean

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against your wall and wait. The

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opening act comes and goes, and

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then the drummer and guitarist, Tessa

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Lapointe and Jacob Finkel emerge from

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behind the curtain, arranging, preparing their

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instruments. Apparently they never trust

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crew and always do it themselves. Just

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goes on for a while, the

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crowd screaming themselves silly, and he's

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meant to be the pickiest

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of the lot. He's

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also the most prone to mood

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swings and temper tantrums of the lot. What

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if… No, he

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wouldn't disappoint a crowd of tens of thousands

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of fans on his first international tour,

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right? But

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in the pit of your stomach, you're beginning

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to feel worried. Tessa and

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Jacob up on stage are looking confused themselves,

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and it seems like they're making their warm

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up stretch on longer

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than it should. Just

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to throw it out in case Mark is

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running late, and you can't

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help but think that's not a great

11:16

sign. Then you get a buzz on your walkie

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talkie. This

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is… could you come

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backstage to the green room right away please? Just

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you. Oh boy, okay,

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that's ominous. You know what? You're here to

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do a job, so you obey. And

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oh wow, you're in mouse-tailed green room, oh

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my god this is incredible. The

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co-worker who buzzed you approaches. You

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don't actually know their name, you've only ever heard it through

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the walkie talkie, so to you it's always just unintelligible.

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In their mumbly voice they say, you're

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a fan these guys, right? You know them pretty

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well? Because the thing is missing,

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and as you can see there's a big old

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mess in here. I'm worried

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something happened when I went to the bathroom. I'm

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hoping you knew enough about him to figure out

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what it was, where he'll be, this gig is

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pretty important to the venue. Not

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just to the venue, to your uncle. He's

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the event manager. If the event

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fails, people assume it was mismanaged.

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You've promised to do everything

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you can to get Mark

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found and ready to go

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on stage ASAP, and Grateful,

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your co-worker unintelligible, leaves and

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takes your position at ILEA.

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And oh boy, unintelligible? Was not kidding. The

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green room is kind of a mess. You

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have come in through a door in the south

12:36

wall, which if you return through,

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leads you to a big curtain that separates the

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stage from backstage. In

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front of you in the green room are

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a pair of tossed around sofas and

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a mini fridge. Bottles

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are dropped on the floor. Near

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the east wall is a stand meant to

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hold warm-up instruments, but they're now on the

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floor too. Against

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the north wall is a full costume rack.

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And attached to the west wall is a TV

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monitor. There's

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also in the middle of the room

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a coffee table that seems undisturbed. It's

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got a glass bowl of M&Ms on it. Seems

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a little odd that that hasn't been thrown around, but

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okay. And

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besides that, the only things left

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are the brick walls themselves.

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Definitely no Mark Coleman. Well,

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not yet at least. And that's

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it. That's how you got to start with. I

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have a few questions right off the bat. Let's

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see how many of them I'm prepared for. We

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are an usher in this concert

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hall. We're not usher.

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You are not usher. Okay, that's my first

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question. Second question is, as a big fan

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of mouse tail, we would know mouse

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tail, T-A-I-L-T-A-L-E. T-A-I-L.

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That's what I thought and also as a big

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fan of mouthtail. We know all the songs No

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one will ever realize Okay

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Those are my initial questions

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Matt, where do you think we should what do you

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think we should do first deeply tempted to be line

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for the M&Ms, but Maybe

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we can find out actual things first. Maybe what

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kind of instruments are on the floor? Oh boy

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They are guitars or they were

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at least the band or maybe

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just mark has kind of gone

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to town on them Hey

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if these guitars were sitting nicely in

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their stands They would be quite a

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sight each one has a different colored

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and shaped body with transparent sections So

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you can see right through them in

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places for warm-up guitars. They're actually pretty

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fancy But not only are

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they very much not sitting nicely and

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rather strewn across the floor There's

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a reason that you can only notice details

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about the guitar bodies And

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that's because not one of these guitars

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still has its neck You

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Put them in some neater rows and you take

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a look at them Yes for people at home

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you can see this image in these show notes

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But Jason would you like to describe what you're

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looking at for the listeners at home? Yes, I

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am looking at five guitar

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bodies One is a

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red kind of classic Fender shape guitar

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one is a blue V shapes

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kind of guitar There's

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a purple Violin

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kind of shape Reminds

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me of frilly t-shirts that I had growing up

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Yes, exactly And then there's a black guitar

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or a gray guitar that looks kind of

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like a star with the top point ripped

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off And then the bottom on

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the bottom. There's a green circle like a

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banjo Type of thing,

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but it does have six strings. So it's not

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a banjo that is

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all very interesting I probably should

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have asked beforehand,

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how prominent a guitarist are

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either of our players today? I

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play guitar. Alright, that's not going to

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bode well for me. Pretend you don't. I'm

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glad that you recognize these as guitars at

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least. They look great. I

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don't know, I mean I wonder if this is

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a part of a, should we just keep looking

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around the room and see if... Is there any

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kind of indicator on the stand where the things

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go or we're not going to know until we

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get some kind of neck on these things and

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start moving around maybe? You could probably

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put them back in their stand if you

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want to show them the respect that

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they deserve. They won't sit particularly well without

16:43

their necks but it's a gesture. Yeah,

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I'll do the gesture just to get them off the floor. I'm

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nervous about that. Okay,

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and there's empty stands and these

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smashed up guitars and that's it.

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Yep, there doesn't seem to be anything else

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to notice there. Should

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we look, should

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we make our way around the room, look in

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the costume rack? Yeah, I like that. Maybe

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this is a detective costume. That

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is one of my favorite things in Escape Rooms is

17:14

finding stuff and putting it on as we go. I

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love it. The costume rack

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has a reasonable selection, the brightly

17:21

colored, elaborately sewn pieces of clothing,

17:24

a bunch of accessories. Mousetail

17:26

is known for having some fun with

17:28

their costumes. You've heard there are

17:31

some rules that they follow to pick the right ones

17:33

for every concert but they haven't

17:35

toured internationally before. You haven't really followed

17:37

that too precisely so you're not sure.

17:39

You haven't looked it up. People

17:41

in the audience might know. Hopefully

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by the time you get Mark back he knows well enough

17:46

so he can get dressed quickly. Are

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there any pockets on these

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costumes? Some of them, yeah. You

17:54

want to give them a rifle? Yeah

17:56

I would love to rifle through. You

17:58

pickpocket some of these costumes. costumes, you dig your

18:01

hands into all the ones that have them,

18:03

most are empty, but what's this? In

18:06

the pocket of one costume that, if

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you had to describe it, it's like,

18:10

you know, the character of Long John Silver often

18:12

has a parrot on his shoulder. It's as if

18:14

they merged the two together. It's pirate sea captain.

18:18

Not pirate sea captain, parrot sea captain,

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for sure. But irrelevant.

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You find four bottle caps in

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its pocket. Hmm. Do

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they have anything on them? They certainly

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do. Ooh. One

18:34

of them, the first one you look at, on top it's got

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a picture of a cat. And

18:39

you flip it over and it's got a number three on

18:41

the underside. Okay. There's

18:44

less of a sound effect that you can make for the number three.

18:47

Yeah. Three! The

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next one has a

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picture of a horse and a number two. Two?

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I don't know. Next one is a

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duck. With

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a number five. Four. I

19:04

kind of want to change this one on the fly

19:06

just to see how weird an animal sound I can

19:08

get, but the last one, who knows. The

19:11

last one is a deer. Hello?

19:13

Oh, I'm a deer. I think

19:15

that's perfect. Hello?

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With a number zero. Oh.

19:22

Clearly these are ratings

19:25

of how rideable these animals are.

19:28

Wait, is the cat... Hold

19:32

on. Cat is slightly easier to

19:34

ride than a duck, but

19:37

not as easy to ride as a horse. And

19:39

a deer, you just can't even try. Well... You

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can't even get close to a deer. What's

19:44

it gonna do? Like, that's good. Wait, so zero is the

19:47

worst. Yeah. Yeah. But

19:49

two for the horse is pretty good? Yeah,

19:52

there's one better rideable animal in the world

19:54

than a horse. Which is the cat. And

19:56

I'm not gonna worry. Yeah. The

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system. But no wonder they stopped using it.

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So now this makes me feel like

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should we go look at the bottles?

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Yeah, I'm into that. Alright. You circle

20:09

the room, you pick up some of these discarded bottles

20:11

as you go. There are a

20:13

variety of different brands, similar sizes, all empty

20:15

to the last drop. And you find

20:17

six of them in all and we've got a picture of

20:19

that for ya. Alright. Come

20:22

on. Hold on. I

20:24

gotta up there. I can't see them. I can't see

20:26

them. No, hold on. What's

20:28

wrong with your eyes? For people at

20:30

home, you can see these bottles in

20:32

the show notes, but Matt will describe

20:34

them to me. Ah, okay. So

20:37

there are six bottles. And

20:40

I'm gonna describe them in order on a

20:42

page, not in order numbers, just to confuse

20:44

everybody. Sure. Because there's a bottle that says,

20:46

each one at the top, the label goes

20:48

around the top where you drink, it says

20:50

first, third, sixth, like that. It's got a

20:52

number. And then a label on

20:55

the body of the bottle that says words. So

20:57

the first one says first and it says then and

20:59

now. The

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next one I see going left to right is

21:04

third on the top and says, brewers best. Then

21:08

sixth, which says grandma

21:11

revitalizer. They've

21:13

all got very different audiences. That

21:15

probably might go to fourth. The

21:17

next one, you go down to the next row,

21:19

fourth, shovel and rake. And

21:22

the second, atomic sunset. And

21:27

finally fifth, Instagram's

21:29

best voted ale. I

21:32

would also like to point out that seems

21:34

like bottle first, then and

21:37

now, and bottle fifth, Instagram's best

21:39

voted ale, both seem to still

21:41

have their bottle caps on. Oh,

21:44

look at that. Good

21:46

eyeballing. Are

21:48

we able to remove those bottle caps and

21:50

see what animals and numbers we

21:52

have there? Certainly. You unscrew those bottle

21:55

caps and they too have designs on

21:57

them. The then and now one.

22:00

has a picture of a chicken and

22:02

a number seven on the underside. Sorry,

22:04

I didn't give you time for chicken. Don't

22:06

tell anyone I'm a turkey. I pretend just they'll all think I'm

22:08

a chicken. And

22:21

the Instagram's best voted ale has a

22:24

picture of a sheep and the number

22:26

six on the underside. Um,

22:28

but when you try to put the cap back on

22:30

that bottle, it doesn't quite

22:32

screw in right actually. And yeah, when you

22:34

pulled it off, it felt like it was sitting a

22:36

bit funny. Hmm. Now

22:39

that I look at the picture again, it looks like it's

22:41

sitting a bit funny. Huh.

22:44

Can we try the duck number

22:47

five bottle cap on

22:49

Instagram's best? Absolutely.

22:53

It's a bit hard to tell like just

22:55

from feel which ones are going to fit.

22:57

The bottles are very similar. It just happened

22:59

to be particularly noteworthy that that one was sitting a

23:01

little odd. Hmm. Yeah. Mix and

23:03

match some bottle caps and nothing. They're

23:06

not magic bottle caps. Don't worry. Okay. Okay.

23:09

So it seems like though we have all the bottles

23:11

and all the bottle caps six and six. There's

23:15

so much room to look at. Should we

23:17

continue around? Gather more clues? Yeah,

23:19

let's keep going. Let's keep going around. Let's take a

23:21

look at the TV monitor there. We'll just keep going

23:23

around the room. It's mounted

23:25

to the wall, not very big, and

23:27

it is switched off. You

23:29

check it out all over. Annoyingly,

23:32

it looks like it needs a

23:34

remote to turn it on. Hmm.

23:37

Okay. We find the remote. Uh-huh.

23:40

Ah, he cracked the code.

23:42

And we find Mark. No.

23:46

That was always the best thing to do

23:48

in text parser games. Salt

23:50

puzzle. Salt puzzle.

23:54

Okay. Well, can't

23:56

do much there until we find this remote.

24:00

For a remote, we might as well check under

24:02

the sofa cushions real quick. Smart. Super

24:04

smart. So these sofas, they've been

24:06

dragged around, flipped on their sides, just totally

24:08

messed up. And the first

24:10

thing that you've noticed about them, there are

24:12

some spears sticking out of their cushions. What?

24:16

Because... Wait, hang on. Hold on. You

24:18

were really freaked out about what Mark's been doing here. And you're

24:21

still not happy about it. But you get

24:23

a closer look and realize they're not spears,

24:26

they're just guitar necks. Oh,

24:28

wow. Okay. Look, they're

24:30

super cool. Instead of just painted

24:32

wood or whatever, they're also made

24:34

of semi-transparent material, but they're still

24:36

just broken guitar neck points. So

24:39

you can see a picture of that, too. For

24:41

people at home, you can see those guitar necks. You

24:44

reach around them and see if you can feel

24:46

under the cushions for a remote. You do

24:48

not find one. No remote.

24:51

But I think, Jason, it's your turn. Would you like

24:53

to describe these guitar necks to the people at home?

24:56

Ah, okay. Good luck. So

25:01

we have five guitar necks, which matches

25:03

our number of guitar bodies. They...

25:07

Okay, so there's the top one looks almost kind

25:09

of like a drop of water. They all have

25:11

the same long neck and then the... Would

25:15

you call it the head of the guitar? That's

25:17

okay. Yeah, apparently. Yeah, the

25:19

head of the guitar on the top one kind

25:21

of looks like a teardrop. Well, Mr.

25:23

Blobby for our UK audiences, I reckon. Mr.

25:26

Blobby. There you go. I said it was like

25:28

a pair when I was doing the playtest. Actually,

25:30

yes, because I'm going to save drops

25:32

for another guitar neck that I

25:34

see. Yeah, so a pair. The

25:37

next one is shaped like a

25:39

rectangle. There's one that's shaped

25:41

like a triangle. There's

25:43

one that's shaped like a classic

25:46

Stratocaster, Fender Stratocaster top. And then

25:48

there is one that is more

25:50

like a classic sort of teardrop

25:53

shape, like an egg with a

25:55

pointy top. And

25:57

they all have a... little

26:01

circle at the top like a Christmas ornament.

26:04

Can we look closer at those? You pretty

26:06

much bang on exactly what that is. It's

26:08

like just a very little hook sort of

26:10

thing. Okay, so hang them

26:12

somewhere. And the

26:14

semi-transparent thing, there's no letters or

26:17

numbers or anything on either the

26:19

guitar necks or the guitar bodies?

26:21

No, nothing that seems relevant. Okay.

26:24

In addition, just a bit of extra information

26:26

so you don't waste too much time

26:29

with this, the smashed part,

26:31

like where they disconnected from each other,

26:33

there's clearly been a little bit

26:35

of fragmentation there so it won't

26:38

be easy to shape-slot them back

26:40

together. Okay, yes, thank you.

26:42

Okay, that's good to know. Should

26:45

we check the mini-fridge? Yeah, let's

26:47

keep looking. The mini-fridge has

26:49

some minor denting on the front

26:51

and sides. You can't tell

26:53

if it's from Mark being in a rage or it

26:56

could have been done several concerts ago. Because

26:59

perhaps someone was angry about not being able

27:01

to get it open wouldn't

27:03

surprise you because there is a

27:05

six-digit electronic combination lock holding it

27:07

shut. Okay. Oh,

27:11

interesting. Now, I

27:14

would bet that we also have six

27:16

bottle caps. We do. And

27:19

I bet that somehow the

27:21

bottles plus the bottle caps will give us the

27:24

combination in order. But I still don't know

27:26

how. Is

27:31

there anything under the table that

27:33

has the glass M&Ms or should

27:35

we just look at the M&Ms? Yeah.

27:38

Quick cursory look under the table? Table

27:40

itself, very plain, nothing underneath it. That

27:43

was where you found one of the bottles earlier so you've already

27:45

inspected it. Okay, perfect. As

27:47

for the M&Ms, it's a modest size bowl. Unlike

27:49

so many other things in the room, it doesn't

27:51

look like it's been messed with. The

27:54

M&Ms themselves seem normal.

27:57

Can't quite put your finger...

28:00

Oh yeah, okay. Not all

28:02

the colors you'd expect to see are in

28:05

here. In fact, there are only four different

28:07

colors. There's just blue, green, orange and yellow.

28:10

Maybe Moustail's one of those groups with a funny

28:12

clause in their contract about removing all

28:15

the colored ones just to make sure the venue's

28:17

reading carefully. You've heard that that's a thing. Mm-hmm.

28:20

Absolutely. Can

28:22

we dig through the M&Ms and see if there's

28:24

any remotes at the bottom of the bowl or

28:26

anything like that? It's not quite big

28:28

enough for that. It's modest. Okay.

28:32

And nothing in there but M&Ms. Okay. Correct.

28:37

So this remote has got to be somewhere.

28:39

Maybe that's what's in the mini fridge and

28:41

we've got to figure out this bottle. Either

28:44

the bottle or the guitar. Well,

28:46

the bottle puzzle will give us

28:48

the 6-digit combination, I bet. Yeah.

28:52

And we got colors but they don't

28:54

match up to M&Ms. They're really cool.

28:57

No, they seem like they're different. So

29:01

the chicken has

29:03

seven letters. Cat has three letters and

29:05

that's all that matches in terms of

29:07

the amount of letters and the number.

29:10

Yeah, the zero bottle cap really throws

29:12

that. Yeah. Yeah,

29:15

that does throw that. Horse.

29:20

If you spell horse, there's only two letters.

29:22

That's an insult to the horse. You're

29:24

kidding. Better stand for

29:27

that. Okay.

29:29

So, huh. And

29:31

also you made a point of saying the sheep

29:35

6 bottle cap didn't fit very well

29:37

on the Instagram's best photo deal but

29:39

you didn't say that about the chicken

29:42

bottle cap on the first then and now.

29:45

No, that one seemed unobjectionable. Hmm.

29:48

So maybe seven chicken is supposed

29:51

to be the first and that's some kind of

29:53

clue. That sounds like a thing.

29:55

So we've got to figure out some

29:58

kind of meat. meaning between

30:01

like chicken and then and

30:03

now. And then

30:05

see if somehow we can figure out

30:07

some other meanings with these other animals

30:10

and these other. Perfect.

30:13

I am drawing a blank.

30:16

Then and now. Also seven letters

30:19

and an ampersand. But

30:22

there's no, again, there's no bottle that

30:24

has zero letters. In

30:27

then and now there's the

30:30

word hen. Boy,

30:32

I'm really, Oh yeah, but. I'm

30:34

picking a straw. I

30:39

don't think that's the wildest thing. Yeah,

30:42

I mean, I'm really, huh, okay.

30:52

I mean, it's interesting that there's then

30:54

and now with an ampersand and then

30:56

shovel and rake with the

30:58

word and. That's true. Atomic

31:04

sunset. Grandma

31:07

revitalizer. Instagram

31:11

is best voted. Okay,

31:14

then and now is a chicken. Chicken

31:16

and the egg. That's what it

31:18

was then and now it's a chicken. Or

31:23

then it was a chicken and now my

31:25

dinner. One

31:28

was a race. Shovel

31:32

and rake are shovel

31:35

and rake. Oh, what

31:38

duck for shovel and rake? Why

31:41

is that? Shovely beak and raky

31:43

feet. I

31:47

love that. Because it's a shovel. It's

31:50

a no, I think. I'm very curious

31:52

about which animal just gives off the

31:54

vibes of a grandma revitalizer. A

31:57

cat, a cat for me. Yeah, a cat. I

32:00

don't know, Instagram, we've had that one. But

32:03

also, I would

32:05

imagine that Instagram's best voted

32:07

would also be Instagram loves

32:09

cats. But

32:12

I think Grandma revitalizer of all these

32:14

things would be cats. Shovel

32:17

and rake are both found

32:19

in a garden shed. You

32:23

are not wrong about the different ends as well. Oh,

32:26

okay. So

32:28

it could be something

32:30

about the number of letters

32:33

or punctuation

32:35

things. Because we also

32:38

have an apostrophe in Brewer's Best and

32:40

a dash in for a vitalizer. But

32:43

also, Brewer's Best. Just

32:49

saying it that loud. No, it works. What

32:53

do you notice about that? Well,

32:55

there's two B's. Oh,

32:58

wait a second. I think I got

33:00

it, guys. What? I think I

33:02

got it. All right. Yes, I did. I

33:05

totally did. I got it. Okay. Then and

33:07

now, there's a hen in there. That's

33:13

a chicken. Brewer's Best

33:15

contains the word you. So I believe that's

33:17

a sheep. Shovel

33:21

and rake contain the word Drake,

33:23

which I think would be a duck. Hey,

33:28

Grandma revitalizer is

33:30

mayor is in there and that's a horse.

33:33

Oh, okay.

33:35

So wait, let me let me just write

33:37

these down so far. Yeah, sheep would be

33:40

third. The

33:43

sixth would be Grandma revitalizer.

33:46

Drake would be fourth.

33:50

So now we have second

33:53

and fifth. And

33:55

one is a deer and one is a cat. Atomic

33:58

has tom. Yes. Okay.

34:01

Second. And then deer.

34:03

I mean,

34:05

it doesn't, oh, stag. Instagram. Yeah.

34:08

Unlike ram, which is why someone

34:10

might have thought that the sheep

34:12

one went there. Oh,

34:15

right. I see. Ah, smart.

34:17

Smart. Okay, so now we have the

34:19

code of the bottles that we'll try

34:22

on the mini thing is seven, three,

34:25

six, five, zero, two. The

34:32

mini fridge unlocks. Yeah. Very

34:37

interesting hearing you get stuck on that puzzle when you

34:39

like the first thing you said was, well,

34:41

T. Hen, that's a hen, that's a

34:44

chicken. That's probably nothing. Especially

34:46

Matt, you then went, oh, that could

34:49

work. And then I was gone

34:51

anyway. That is nothing. That's something. No, you're right. We

34:53

got too quick. You couldn't have been there, ain't

34:55

you? It needs to be

34:57

something else. That

35:00

was beautiful. Oh man. Oh, that's so

35:02

satisfying. Great puzzle. You

35:05

swing the mini fridge door open. No

35:08

drinks inside. Well, yeah, they've all been

35:10

tossed around the room, but there is

35:12

indeed a TV remote. Yes. Oh,

35:16

shall we press the remote? Yeah.

35:19

You press a button on the remote, the

35:21

monitor switches right on. Must

35:23

be connected to a camera at the front of the

35:25

stage because it's showing you a wide shot of the

35:28

whole audience. Almost the whole audience.

35:30

It doesn't quite reach the far edge as at either side,

35:32

but 99 percent of the audience can be

35:34

seen from this screen and it's

35:37

that's big. It's a lot of people. Yeah,

35:40

you're not surprised that someone might have switched it off and

35:42

hidden the remote away so they never had to look at

35:44

it again. Interesting. So maybe

35:46

Mark was got some stage fright.

35:50

Are there any other channels or

35:53

volume? None that seems

35:55

connected and it is soundless. You

35:58

Can faintly hear a bit of noise. Because the

36:00

audience is really loud. Like coming from the door from

36:02

behind the curtain. things as a little bit of noise

36:04

passing through recess. Yet I need a T V to

36:06

tell you what's going on and that. Is.

36:08

There anything interesting about the audience

36:10

or any audience members that stick

36:12

out. There's. A lot of them

36:15

if might be. Easier. If

36:17

he had something to go

36:19

on with that's nice ass

36:21

is also you could potentially.

36:23

Go. Elsewhere to get a different view as well.

36:26

As soon as you've done

36:28

and with exploration of the

36:30

green room itself, oh sorry,

36:32

go back out of the

36:34

third South door to where

36:36

just assumed we couldn't What

36:39

a goof. This. Early getting on

36:41

the door that since you see we always have the As

36:43

or yeah that. You. Head to the

36:45

door, intending to go out that fast to

36:47

take a very reasonable look at it. From.

36:50

The states sides a year are aware

36:52

of doors Plane except for the Woods

36:54

Greener imprint on I'm Help Us On

36:56

this side of the side visible from

36:58

inside the green room, there are some

37:00

hooks. And a set list has

37:03

been pinned up so everyone knows the waterway.

37:05

For know, We're. Gonna give

37:07

that to you and man I think it's

37:09

your turn. Or. It so

37:11

there's a standard interviews will-on the he

37:13

decided then. And in the

37:15

next or the song titles under a Bright

37:18

Sky. Then. Yes com

37:20

a yup com a year which is a very

37:22

good song title. Than.

37:24

My gang left me. Followed.

37:27

By Go downtown. And

37:29

they would-of only decide Standard Closing. And

37:32

in parentheses blow that encore if time.

37:35

And. The hoping. Minus.

37:37

The word set was the very the woman's been script

37:39

that is a big x to the hoping. We.

37:42

Can have a like scraggly drawn like with a pin that

37:44

with a murder. Now. i

37:46

will say for those in the in

37:49

the listening audience who are not fans

37:51

as mouse sound don't understand or eat

37:53

a song is about twenty five minutes

37:55

long are kind of like and yet

37:57

yet and so that's why they're They're

38:00

like if we have time we'll do the encore because

38:02

they can they can make these songs last We

38:04

did have a big discussion in the play

38:06

test because I described them as a big

38:08

band about how big band they were Yeah

38:13

I'll be banned on stage. Oh, really? How

38:15

many trumpets are there? Yeah,

38:17

exactly. There's tested Jacob mark

38:19

and and then about seven. Yeah, but

38:22

12 does There's

38:29

also some marks on the wall They like are they

38:31

those like pen marks above the set list there the

38:33

one two on the left and the thingy on the

38:35

right Maybe shall

38:37

we hook some of those guitar necks

38:40

onto the hooks? Yes, not the kind

38:42

of hooks No, it

38:44

actually looks like exactly the kind of hooks. I

38:47

think we should hook on The

38:49

rectangle and the triangle on those

38:52

two at least Okay,

38:55

you can do that in those guitar

38:57

necks up fine. They sort of swing

38:59

they fit perfectly They line up really

39:01

nicely with those lines and sort

39:03

of dangle over the set list a little bit And

39:12

maybe these outlines it looks like the

39:14

one on the Is

39:16

like the purple one and then maybe the

39:18

green one on the left I couldn't agree

39:21

more So we now

39:23

know that the green Circle

39:26

goes with the rectangle head

39:29

and the purple

39:34

ladies shirt shapes

39:36

guitar Goes

39:39

with the triangle you can't

39:41

reconnect them exactly but you can sort

39:43

of In that

39:45

way yeah, they overlap a little

39:47

and You know

39:49

what? With their transparent

39:51

bodies and the slight transparency of

39:53

the next as well. Whoa overlapping

39:56

points Have kind of

39:58

an effect On the

40:00

set list you can see this in

40:03

the show notes below people at home But

40:05

Jason would you like to describe what's different about

40:08

this set list? Oh, oh,

40:10

I was trying to imagine Ah, interesting.

40:12

So we have the purple shaded on

40:14

the right and we have the green

40:16

circle shaded on the left and All

40:20

of a sudden we have some Blue

40:23

letters that are coming up And

40:26

what's blue is bright from under a

40:28

bright sky. Yep from yes. Yep. Yeah,

40:30

which is my personal favorite song the

40:33

final G and the word

40:35

left from my gang left me

40:38

and In

40:41

go downtown Oh And

40:44

down those are the blue letters.

40:46

The third one's actually a much rudest song than they

40:48

let on it's my gangl asked me I

40:53

Those gangles In

40:57

the end All

41:00

right, so that's very interesting Yes

41:03

amazing the effect that these colorful guitars

41:05

could have on lettering to me. Yes

41:07

and blue All right, this is

41:10

very interesting. No one could ever figure out how

41:12

to make a primary color until now Hey people

41:14

playing along at home and to people

41:16

playing along right now I did

41:18

the playtest of this and they were not

41:20

blue They were like ever so slightly less

41:22

black and Danny was like can't you see

41:24

that they've changed knowing? No, what are you

41:26

talking about? Right. It's a slightly

41:28

less black than it was Blue

41:31

is good. So one of

41:33

the things that I'm noticing is the

41:35

two directions left and down No

41:43

in rights and up Right left down So

41:47

we're the why oh And

41:50

these the and the letters that are left

41:52

from the right Why

41:55

up are the same as the colors

41:58

of the m&m's blue green? Yellow

42:01

whoa I can feel the electricity

42:03

of your synapses moving with a This

42:08

is exciting okay Right

42:14

Green is left. I still don't know

42:16

what this necessarily means. Oh is down

42:18

oranges down and yellow is up Okay,

42:23

but I don't know what to do with that anymore

42:26

Should we continue to go? Through

42:31

the door and to the current stage or

42:33

how we're gonna be counting M&Ms at some

42:35

point maybe oh, yes I bet we are

42:39

But in the meantime, you're more than welcome to

42:41

check out the curtain from behind the stage. Yeah

42:43

Let's probably don't want to just

42:45

burst out in the middle of the show onto

42:48

the stage But this big dark

42:50

curtain it completely separates you from the stage

42:52

and it's thick enough to drown out Little

42:55

bit of the screaming from the

42:57

audience Yeah, the low side does

42:59

not have one guy The

43:04

left side does not have much wing space But if

43:06

you move to the right of the cut you think

43:08

there might be a tiny spot where you could poke

43:10

your head out Without being seen just a little bit

43:13

And if you go towards that You

43:16

notice something. What is that? That's a there's

43:18

a funny glint at the very edge of this curtain

43:22

So you lean in to look at it It's a

43:24

bit of glitter like someone glittery

43:26

brushed past it and some got

43:28

stuck I'm only that as you

43:30

walk you accidentally kick something. There's

43:32

a small empty bottle of glue

43:35

Well, I know from my years

43:37

of following mouse tail on the road

43:39

that mark likes glitter He likes it

43:41

so he doesn't wear it as far

43:44

as you've seen Incorporate it

43:46

that much on stage because it's a pain to clean

43:48

up Now it's more of his

43:50

like arts and crafts hobbies well Okay,

43:54

so we have a bottle of glue we have

43:56

some glitter do you the

43:58

tester Jacob look with? or do

44:01

we know that they're always glittery? No, as far

44:03

as you're aware, again, first international tour, so

44:05

you haven't seen them live before, but as

44:07

far as you know, they like bright colours,

44:10

but not so much the

44:12

glitter thing. Does the glue bottle have

44:14

anything interesting on it? No, it's very

44:16

generic, you recognise the brand well, you

44:18

could buy it from the corner store

44:20

here. Elmer's. The

44:24

most delicious. The glue is criminal. Can

44:28

we peek our head around the curtain? Yeah, let's

44:30

do a peek. You push the edge of

44:33

the curtain aside just enough that you can see out,

44:35

definitely not so much that anyone can see you. Because

44:38

of that, you can only get eyes on

44:40

the very far right edge of the audience,

44:42

just the furthest people out in each row,

44:45

and even that's still a lot of people. Again,

44:49

without looking for anything in particular, it's

44:51

just a swathe

44:53

of bodies, but just

44:56

makes you hope that you can fix this and not let them all down.

44:59

Do we see anybody glittery or sticky?

45:01

Anybody with a big sign, a glittery sign? You

45:03

know what, you peek out as far as you dare, and

45:06

you're only seeing a small fraction of the audience. But

45:09

there is. A young woman

45:11

holding up a homemade sign with

45:14

glittery words on it. Interesting.

45:18

You can't see them all from this angle, but

45:20

you do see Mark written on

45:22

it. And also on

45:24

it are several small circular shapes that look recently

45:26

glued on to make a big shape. You can

45:29

only again see a fraction of it, but it

45:31

looks like it's going to be a big heart.

45:34

Should we go look at the monitor and see if we can see

45:36

the whole sign? Yeah, let's try that

45:39

and see if... Is there any way

45:41

to zoom in or is there a... It

45:43

seems pretty fixed. I'm standing at the

45:45

grave of one of your walkie-talkies. Inhance!

45:51

I'm like, un-pinching my fingers on the screen.

45:54

You get up close to the monitor, you search for

45:56

your glitter woman. Not all

45:58

that many signs, so it doesn't take you... too long to

46:00

find her. It says Marry

46:02

Me. From there, remember the peripheral of

46:04

the monolith was cut off so you can't see the

46:07

word mark now, but clearly it said Marry Me Mark.

46:09

And it is indeed little

46:12

colourful round things glued on to form

46:14

a big heart. Okay.

46:17

What colour are the little round things? Or

46:19

is there just a bunch of different colours? There

46:21

are a few different colours there. They

46:23

might be blue, they might be yellow.

46:25

Yeah. Green, orange? You

46:28

know what, yeah. Those are the four

46:30

colours represented. Okay.

46:34

And it seems like maybe this

46:36

lady had been backstage at some point.

46:40

Yes. Hm. Hm.

46:43

I say. She's an M&M

46:45

thief. She

46:48

stole some M&Ms and

46:50

glued them in a big heart onto her

46:53

poster with glitter and

46:55

glue. She

46:57

rubbed past the curtain, which is

47:00

also something she will pay

47:02

for. Even

47:04

though our uncle is totally rich and it'll probably,

47:07

probably wouldn't even notice and it'll devastate

47:09

her. He'll only remain rich if

47:11

this concept goes off perfectly. Okay, oh yeah. He's

47:14

invested 100% of his fortune in this particular concept.

47:22

Okay. I would say,

47:24

Sage, there was one

47:26

thing in the green room that did not

47:28

get full observation. Oh,

47:30

interesting. Is it

47:33

the walls? Yes, exactly. Ah, the brick

47:35

walls. Oh, the brick walls. Yeah,

47:38

I think we could go back inside and look at those

47:40

brick walls. I'd like to look at the brick walls. Yeah.

47:44

Back into the green room. Wait, no, you

47:46

were at the Modla. You stay in the green room. The

47:49

walls, plain brick all round. None

47:51

of the hundreds are particularly standing

47:53

out. Well, except for that one

47:55

in the middle of the right wall. It's just got some scratches

47:58

on it. Kind of looks like a capital N. And

48:00

that's probably nothing. The

48:03

only other thing going on with these walls is there

48:06

are two posters hung up. Promotional

48:08

ones from Moustails National

48:10

Tour of last year and the year before. Not

48:13

as cool as tonight's big international debut, of course, but

48:15

they still look pretty cool. And

48:17

so it will give you last two... No,

48:20

not last two images. Almost last two images. So

48:22

for people at home, you can see the posters? You can have

48:24

one each to talk about. Alright. First,

48:28

before we describe these posters, we should

48:30

check these bricks one by one. There's

48:35

only so long that Tessa and Jacob can

48:37

keep up their warm up. Alright,

48:40

let's see. Alright,

48:42

at the top real big. It's

48:45

cool, scribbly markers style art.

48:48

And it says 2022 in

48:50

kind of blacky numbers, like the

48:53

zero is a square rectangle. And

48:56

then there's three figures and they're kind of like black

48:58

marker like scribble people like you used to do. And

49:01

the one on the left is the drummer probably because they

49:03

got drumsticks or sticks in their hands.

49:06

And they got a pointy green hat on

49:09

like when you're in the rice

49:11

fields and you need to protect your head from

49:13

the sunshines. It is a... What

49:16

do you call that style hat? I don't

49:18

know. I can't remember. A rice hat. I want

49:21

a colder rice hat but that doesn't feel right.

49:23

I think it's right. If

49:25

anybody in the audience... It's a Raiden. Mortal

49:27

Kombat. It's a Raiden hat. Yeah. Yeah,

49:30

you would throw to chop up. Not a Kung

49:32

Lao hat. No, no, no, no. Kung Lao throws

49:34

hat. Raiden just wears it to protect his eyes

49:36

when he shoots thunder. It's just a

49:39

Raiden hat shaped wig. Yes.

49:44

Oh yeah, because they're hairy. They're obviously hairy. Okay, so yeah,

49:47

cool triangle green hair. And then

49:49

the drummer presents a red belt and red shoes. The

49:52

person in the middle has a microphone like the

49:54

singer and they have shoulder length pink hair. Pretty

49:57

sweet bangs. The.

50:01

A green chew on the right foot, any

50:03

yellowstone and left foot. And

50:05

then there's a person holding guitar who I

50:07

believe has a yellow mohawks. No

50:10

visible belts. And. To

50:12

blue shoes light blue suit

50:15

almost a sign a scientist

50:17

is exactly right, Cyan shoe

50:19

sofie and shoes are young

50:21

enough to settle on a

50:23

sudden warm up and twenty

50:26

twenty three poster. Is

50:28

similar. We still have a drummer

50:30

on the last singer in the

50:33

metal guitarist on The Rents, but

50:35

things are little bit different. And

50:37

Twenty Twenty three. Block

50:40

letters in the upper right corner: a

50:42

drummer. Now has. Magenta

50:45

hair. A. Greenbelt

50:47

and Sciences. The

50:51

singer now has. A

50:53

raid and hat shapes hairstyle

50:55

but it's. Blonde.

50:58

I guess he would say about

51:00

human hair. and on the dark

51:02

blue belt and one read shoe

51:04

and one cyan shoe. The

51:08

guitarist now has green mohawk

51:10

guess type hair. And.

51:12

Belt is not visible and yellow shoes

51:15

this times. So.

51:17

This is interesting. Sassoon.

51:20

To go back and force. Lt

51:23

Shoes. I don't know how we

51:25

use this year's floods. See

51:29

yeah? There's a point and the park as

51:31

when you're describing an image and you getting towards the

51:33

into describing the image and you're like i don't know

51:35

what I just I don't know what any of that

51:37

means since a a delay full minute and. More.

51:41

Than sir. Alan the

51:43

medicine and on a brick. Yeah.

51:47

Oh yeah, can we look at that? First.

51:49

Loony does not much more akin to the

51:52

brick is very normal like all of the

51:54

others, but. Scratched. Him and it

51:56

looks like an end. To

51:59

lie in between the post is there an

52:01

order to posters and brick Lane if I'm.

52:03

Not completely unrelated. Not even on

52:05

the same wall. Anything

52:07

under the posters on the wreck

52:09

or on the backs of the

52:11

post? just more normal bricks. Months.

52:14

When I saw it's interesting they're

52:17

trying to fool us with very

52:19

realistic looking sake bricks. Far as

52:21

an aside from our i mean

52:24

that are so some interesting things

52:26

that I notice is it's the

52:29

same as three colors as. Hair.

52:33

But. Switched around. The

52:35

singer is always wearing two different

52:37

color shoes whereas. Both.

52:39

says. Drummer. And the guitarist

52:42

are wearing the same color. Each.

52:44

Picture. On the right and

52:46

left when I mean and each other

52:48

so I'm wondering if they if they

52:51

can. Illegal rotates around. The

52:54

Guys In The Middle Earth. Has.

52:56

A Smirk still has a simpler built.

52:59

Oh yeah, yeah. Would.

53:01

Have made me think that that. That.

53:03

In the first picture the belt that

53:06

we cannot see if they only I

53:08

own three belts between his his his

53:10

read the guitars as a red mountain

53:12

or to twenty twenty three and a

53:14

greenbelt and twenty twenty two but I

53:16

don't know that's for so maybe more

53:18

information the east and gather from this.

53:20

no no we got it. We're

53:22

going to work this since if the person.

53:26

I'm half okay. And

53:29

we have what looks like with the M and

53:31

M's we have. The. Blue right?

53:33

Yeah, rain laugh to Orange year.

53:36

And or know what we'd be. Turning,

53:38

but we could count some M and M's

53:40

men have numbers to associate with those things. The

53:43

Eminence, And it's a modest fault. they

53:45

are eminently countable, I would say. Oh

53:48

they are my webcam. The mountains.

53:50

Wouldn't take it too long. That's not. It

53:52

seems like a dentist every single brisk like

53:55

he wanted to do. I'll ask. And

53:57

who is Flips? Oh yes, we can. Zimmerman.

53:59

and I love it. You

54:01

meticulously take out every M&M, you sort

54:03

them by colour, not that huge thankfully.

54:06

You count 19 blue, 19 yellow, 20

54:08

orange, 33 green, and hang on, right at

54:11

the bottom of the

54:17

pile, there is a gross faded grey

54:19

one. It looks like it's been here

54:21

forever. There's no way

54:24

of knowing what colour it once was. You know how

54:26

it's got an M written on top? Even a bit

54:28

of that is faded. It's like one of the lines

54:30

is gone. It doesn't look like an M anymore. It's

54:32

that old. Oh gosh.

54:35

Okay, I guess we eat it. No,

54:38

we gotta eat the old one. Gotta eat

54:40

the old one. Can't let our uncle

54:42

see that. Okay,

54:45

interesting. So part of the

54:47

M is faded. Yeah, one of the lines is

54:49

gone. So it almost looks like

54:52

an N, much like a brick. You

54:54

know what, one could describe it that way. It would have

54:56

been much more efficient if I had. Okay,

55:01

minus whatever creepy

55:03

fan in the audience stole to make

55:06

her heart. Yeah, should we count those

55:08

two? Yeah, look at the monitor.

55:11

You can't see too much from

55:14

the monitor. Just three more blues,

55:16

two greens, three oranges.

55:19

Wait, three more blues, two

55:21

more greens. And three oranges. You

55:25

sigh, you rush back out to the side of the curtain

55:27

and you peek out to see what you can see there.

55:30

And it's really hard. She keeps waving it around

55:32

and ruining your count. But from

55:35

this side, three more blue, two

55:38

more green, five more

55:40

orange, two more yellow. And

55:43

that's it. That's all the M&Ms. So altogether

55:45

we have 25 blues, 37 green. Is

55:51

28 orange? Yeah.

55:55

And 21 orange. All

55:58

right. And still one. weird

56:00

creepy old gray one.

56:04

So if we were also, I still don't know

56:06

what this means, but if we were to transpose

56:08

that we would say 25 blue right in case

56:10

there's some

56:14

kind of directional safe later. 37

56:16

left, 28 down, and 21 up. I'm just

56:19

gonna put

56:25

this out there. Blue yellow and green are

56:27

all odd numbers and orange is even numbers.

56:30

So if that gray one has to go

56:32

somewhere, maybe it's maybe to make

56:34

it odd. Just putting it out into

56:37

the universe. Yep. No idea what it means. If

56:41

we were to follow these

56:44

directions, we

56:47

could make them easier for ourselves

56:49

by just going 12 to

56:51

the left and 7 down

56:56

instead of having to just go up

56:58

and down and left and right.

57:01

I don't know if that means anything. Is

57:03

there an audience member on the monitor that

57:05

is 12 left and

57:08

7 down? What would your starting

57:10

point be for that? Hopefully they're

57:12

all standing in a grid as

57:15

there's a tiny notice

57:19

at the front door that says please stand

57:21

in your square. So that all right, I

57:23

don't know if that any of this means.

57:25

You could potentially go like 12 left and 7 down,

57:27

but you would need somewhere to stop. Yeah, as long

57:29

as you can find somewhere to stop. Yes.

57:32

Somewhere. Bricks. Oh,

57:35

north bricks. We start with

57:37

the end brick. It matches your

57:40

weird M&M. Okay. And then we

57:42

go 12 left and 7

57:44

down or we go 25 right and then

57:46

37 left and then, but

57:49

what if we just go 12 left and 7 down Along

57:52

the bricks? You Count them carefully. They All look

57:54

identical, so it would be easy to lose your

57:56

place. So Doing 12 left, 7 down is probably

57:58

the most efficient way. It can be managed

58:01

looks the same as any other, the brick

58:03

you end up on that all the same

58:05

you poke at us, he products, and when

58:07

you. Little. Bit of the ground

58:10

around that comes. Loose. This

58:13

brick has been previously removed

58:15

mark turned into a brick

58:17

businesses suffer if you. Use

58:19

everything you've got to help try it out.

58:22

And sure enough, it pulls away and reveals

58:24

a whole the little ones. And inside it

58:26

a two piece of paper, one folded, one

58:28

scrunched, Folded is closer

58:30

and has no image attached to it, so

58:32

you reach for that one fast as a

58:34

short knows. I'm

58:37

alone. Best year. Ago managed to

58:39

sneak in off the test or and Jacob

58:41

went on stage. She. Had to

58:44

sign and said she wanted me to read

58:46

it but it wasn't ready. Yes, she sat

58:48

down and started gluing and coloring. Is

58:50

pretty weird. But while she

58:52

was doing it and I was watching, I

58:54

realized something. For. Once, I'm

58:56

glad security didn't do their job

58:58

because that girl so me what

59:00

I really want. All these years

59:03

I've been in office and I

59:05

haven't really been an office. not

59:07

the kind I dreamed of saying.

59:09

I loved gluing and coloring at

59:11

school and even some of my

59:13

fans know I still have a

59:15

pen some for glitter. Ah, I

59:17

still love it Now I can't

59:19

wait another seconds! Goodbye

59:21

Mouse tale of Trash, The place that you

59:23

don't miss me as much and I won't

59:25

be needing this anymore. Know.

59:28

You are numb as you. Read as

59:30

he's gone, he's quitting me He

59:32

says. He killed So

59:35

many personal experience sentiments in your uncle

59:37

all the venue self. they're all coming

59:39

on this concepts you're freaking out. And.

59:42

You. Did look at the scrunched

59:44

up piece of paper. And is

59:46

your last image for the room. Wow, this is

59:48

so so We've got to stop

59:50

him from following his heart. He

59:52

is because as the harder to

59:54

be rollers because like I was.

59:57

Proud. he already followed sorry

1:00:00

Don't marry the crazy fan. I

1:00:02

think so. Oh, the rug. Okay, no repeat hair. I

1:00:04

don't think she had much to do with it. No,

1:00:06

I think he'll marry her and they'll glue things to

1:00:09

things until they go all... Oh boy.

1:00:12

Just wait about 12 months and then

1:00:14

follow her and you'll eventually

1:00:16

find him. Exactly.

1:00:18

Okay, this is interesting. So

1:00:20

we've got to create a 2024 poster. No

1:00:25

repeat hair, but there's not many options

1:00:28

because those are their three wigs, which

1:00:30

means that

1:00:33

the drummer has to have the

1:00:35

yellow hair, the singer

1:00:37

has to have green hair, and magenta

1:00:41

hair for our guitarist. That's

1:00:45

the first rule. Other

1:00:47

two can wear any shoes. Not

1:00:50

me. I know my tradition,

1:00:52

but they've got to match me somehow.

1:00:56

Well, he's already worn green and yellow

1:00:58

and blue and red, so it has

1:01:00

to be a new combination. Oh yeah.

1:01:05

I mean, new combination wasn't one of

1:01:07

the rules, so not necessarily, but because

1:01:09

of the hair thing, it

1:01:11

will be slightly different for sure. Not

1:01:14

everything has to be different necessarily. God,

1:01:16

gotcha. Okay,

1:01:19

so in 2022, he's

1:01:21

wearing shoes that are the color of the other

1:01:23

guy's hair. So that is indeed following that

1:01:26

rule. They do match each other. They're matching,

1:01:28

yes, exactly. And

1:01:32

in 2023, his

1:01:34

hair matches the guitarist's shoes, and

1:01:37

his shoe matches the drummer's shoe.

1:01:40

Okay. There's

1:01:44

a specific hair rule. Apparently, the

1:01:47

other two, the drummer and the guitarist can wear whatever

1:01:49

shoes they want, but Mark has some sort of personal

1:01:52

rule about it for himself. He

1:01:55

has to wear two different

1:01:57

color shoes, seems

1:01:59

like. One

1:02:01

thing you should probably know, you

1:02:04

don't get to decide what Jacob and Tess are

1:02:06

wearing. Right. They

1:02:09

just wear whatever they want. Oh

1:02:11

no! Ah! Let's go look and

1:02:13

see what they're wearing tonight. Yeah,

1:02:16

I could take them. That's awesome. It's

1:02:18

not a perfect angle for details, but you peek

1:02:20

out the side of your curtain again. From what

1:02:23

you can make out, Tess, the drummer, has a

1:02:25

yellow wig, dark blue

1:02:27

belt, and red shoes. Okay.

1:02:31

And Jacob, the guitarist, everything

1:02:34

is purple, that magenta-y purple color. Okay,

1:02:37

all right. Okay, this is great. We've

1:02:40

got to match him somehow, and all we

1:02:42

know about Mark is that he's got to

1:02:44

have green hair. So,

1:02:48

we have to figure out what color his shoes

1:02:50

are. So his shoes and

1:02:52

his belt have to match the

1:02:55

other guys somehow. Okay,

1:03:00

he has a dark blue belt both times.

1:03:06

This is just my favorite thing when I'm

1:03:08

just, I don't know, but I know at

1:03:11

some point, one of

1:03:13

us will break through. Yeah,

1:03:15

you know it's going to happen eventually.

1:03:18

Yeah. I was wondering, at

1:03:20

first I was wondering if he chooses

1:03:22

one shoe based on, like,

1:03:24

the combination of some

1:03:26

thing, but I couldn't, you know, the combination

1:03:28

of two other elements. Oh wait.

1:03:33

So, with his first pair of

1:03:35

shoes, he matched their

1:03:37

hair. Yeah. But

1:03:40

the second pair of shoes, he

1:03:46

just had an off night and he matched it

1:03:48

up. He just got it wrong. What an idiot.

1:03:50

There's the question, isn't it? Because it says they

1:03:53

have to match him somehow. So did he match

1:03:55

his shoes to their hair, or did they match

1:03:57

their hair to his shoes? Exactly. I

1:04:00

think they match their hair to his

1:04:02

shoes. So his tradition. So

1:04:07

I'm trying to figure out basically, I'm

1:04:09

trying to figure out if there's some

1:04:12

connection between since he's not necessarily matching

1:04:14

to them, they have to match him. Is

1:04:17

there a way chooses his shoes based

1:04:19

on his, the combination of his hair

1:04:21

and belt? Like what I was looking

1:04:23

at in 2023 is on the left on

1:04:26

his right foot is primary

1:04:28

colors and his

1:04:30

left foot would be a combination of. So,

1:04:34

okay. So in 20, oh,

1:04:37

he wears the shoe. Oh

1:04:40

man. I've been from

1:04:42

the last year. So

1:04:46

I bet in 2021 Tessa

1:04:48

was wearing green shoes as Jacob

1:04:51

was wearing yellow shoes. So this

1:04:53

year he would

1:04:55

be wearing

1:04:58

one magenta one and one yellow

1:05:00

shoe. What's

1:05:04

it starting to look like now and is

1:05:06

it following the rules? So

1:05:09

yes, so the the so the drummer

1:05:11

has yellow hair and he has one

1:05:13

yellow shoe so that he matches and

1:05:15

then the belt has to be magenta.

1:05:17

Otherwise, there's no way to

1:05:20

match the all magenta

1:05:22

guitarists. So we are looking for

1:05:25

somebody with green hair and magenta

1:05:27

belt and one cyan shoe on

1:05:29

the right and a yellow

1:05:31

shoe on the left. Yeah, you can

1:05:34

scour the audience for this all you

1:05:36

like, but you're

1:05:38

not going to find them and you are

1:05:40

pretty convinced Mark's just gone.

1:05:43

He is not going to be found. Oh,

1:05:46

it's time to hit the costume section and see

1:05:48

what we can put on ourselves since we are

1:05:50

the biggest fan in the world and we're ready

1:05:52

to step on stage. No

1:05:55

one will know any green wigs in

1:05:57

that costume. Right. Oh, you know what? There

1:05:59

are a couple of. green wigs. You have a style that

1:06:01

you're looking for? Oh dang it.

1:06:03

Oh yes we do. There will be

1:06:05

spiky, spiky hair. There is a

1:06:08

spiky green one. Excellent. Is

1:06:11

there a magenta belt? Absolutely there is.

1:06:14

Perfect. Is there one cyan right

1:06:17

footed shoe and one yellow left

1:06:19

footed shoe? I don't believe it's the wrong foot. We'll

1:06:21

put them on. We'll get them on. They're full pairs

1:06:24

but you mix and match as appropriate.

1:06:26

Yes, you've got them. You

1:06:29

know what? You take out your

1:06:31

phone and you look at your reflection in the

1:06:33

camera. Look,

1:06:36

it's more convincing than you'd expect. The

1:06:38

wig is doing a lot of heavy

1:06:40

lifting here. We

1:06:44

feel amazing. This is like the

1:06:46

greatest. This is like when Mark

1:06:48

Wahlberg in Rockstar gets

1:06:52

the part. Alright, Matt what's

1:06:54

your next move? I'll tell you that lady too.

1:07:00

See how long we can go before

1:07:02

she realizes we are not in fast market.

1:07:06

What's going on? What do you do now? You

1:07:08

are dressed up? We are gonna

1:07:11

swing open that curtain. Yeah. Heart

1:07:14

pounding, head sweating beneath the wig, you

1:07:17

push past the curtain and

1:07:19

you take just none

1:07:21

steps on stage. Maybe

1:07:23

it's because the shoes don't quite fit, maybe it's

1:07:25

just the nerves. You're trying

1:07:28

something pretty ballsy here but you go out

1:07:30

there. The rippling

1:07:33

wave of shrieks goes up from the craddits,

1:07:35

a Doppler effect of screams from the front

1:07:37

to the back. Tessa

1:07:39

and Jacob turn to see you. They

1:07:42

stare. Well you think they do. They

1:07:44

put on sunglasses at some point. You didn't notice that so it's

1:07:46

a little hard to tell. Your heart thuds.

1:07:49

They know. They definitely know. But

1:07:53

they give you just that little

1:07:55

head nod and then they turn back to

1:07:58

the crowd. Yes. You

1:08:00

walk forward as well, you walk towards the

1:08:02

main microphone stand, the crowd noise

1:08:04

is deafening. WISH

1:08:07

you found some earplugs but that's okay. You

1:08:10

clear your throat, behind

1:08:12

you the others play the opening beat and

1:08:14

chords of the first song of the opening

1:08:16

set. You know it,

1:08:18

right? You hope you

1:08:20

remember all the words, and you hope you can

1:08:22

put on Mark's distinctive singing voice. Because

1:08:24

if not, there are tens of thousands of people watching you

1:08:26

who might not stay as happy as they are now. No

1:08:29

pressure. You open your

1:08:31

mouth, and you get to take us

1:08:33

out for the end of this episode. If you could just quickly

1:08:35

sing through... Something that's, you

1:08:38

know, public domain, that'd be great. This

1:08:40

first song goes out to my future

1:08:42

wife in the third row on the

1:08:44

right side of the alley. She faints

1:08:46

dead away. She's gone. Oh

1:08:49

gosh, she's being trampled. Oh no, what have

1:08:51

I done? No! Oh

1:08:55

my gosh. Well let's see,

1:08:57

what is the first... We gotta look back at the

1:08:59

set list. Well it's the standard intro, so I assume

1:09:01

they're playing the same range. Oh they've done the standard

1:09:03

intro. It's time for Under a Bright Sky. Here

1:09:05

we go. I

1:09:07

was standing on the tall ground when

1:09:10

I was under a bright sky. Thank

1:09:19

you for listening to Escape This Podcast. Don't forget

1:09:21

to tune in next week for podcast

1:09:24

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1:09:26

our guest and discuss the escape

1:09:28

route that we just escaped from.