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translation to that is like, I'm

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just whip it out, get it

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done, go back,

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you know? And when

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you say that recovery is a full-time job,

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I think that

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self-worth, it's

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still coming back, you know? Because

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you were like a used rag that could get

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thrown aside, you know? I

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don't think I've ever said that before, so that's like

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an interesting revelation. We

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knew that working on this episode was going to

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be intense for everyone, especially the person who we're

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talking to, whose name is

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Shana. Yeah, I mean, Erlon, we

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haven't really done an episode like this.

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There's some tough stuff in here, and I

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really wanted to make sure that we handled

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it with care. Indeed. And

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this is a good time to let everyone

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know that this episode is not suitable for

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all listeners. Some of you may want to

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wait for the next one. I'm

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Nigel Poor. And I'm Erlon

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Woods. This is Ear Hustle from

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PRX's RadioTopia. So

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it's the night of April 19th,

3:20

about like 10 and 30 at night. So

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I just wanted to share just

3:26

the meditation practice

3:28

that was given to

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me when I shared my

3:32

fear of speaking on this

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podcast. Shana

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is a yoga therapist. Most

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of the year she lives in India, but the

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stories she's going to tell us take place in

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Sacramento, where she's from. In the

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weeks before she came in for this interview, we asked

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Shana to record audio diaries for us

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on her phone.