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Hola, listeners. I'm Martina Castro, and
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it's time for another session of
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Duos Film Club, the latest season
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of the Duolingo Spanish Podcast. This
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season, we're exploring some of the most
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iconic Spanish-language films. Whether you've
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seen them or not, you're going to learn
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what makes these movies so special in our
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signature bilingual format. It's
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impossible to talk about Spanish-language
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cinema and not talk about
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director Pedro Almodovar. We
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heard from listeners that he was a must for
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Duos Film Club. He has so many
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successful movies that it was hard to choose just
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one. But for today's episode,
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we went with Mujeres al borde de
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una tache de Nervios, or Women on
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the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown. It's
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a classic for a reason. The
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writing is hilarious, the cinematography
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is vibrant, and the film
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catapulted both Almodovar and a
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young Antonio Banderas to fame.
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Joining us for Madrid
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is our guest, David
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Bernal. He's
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a movie critic and has written for various
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publications in Spain. He's actually
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so obsessed with Almodovar that he's writing
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his doctoral thesis about him. David
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will share why he and so many other
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Spaniards believe that Pedro Almodovar is much more
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than just a movie director. He
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is a true icon. So,
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grab some popcorn and get comfy as we
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dive into the next episode. dive into this
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film and experience the wild and changing times
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of Spain in the 1980s. Please
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note that Mujeres Al Borde de
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Matacadenervios is rated R, but today's
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episode is family-friendly. And
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one more quick note, keep an ear out to
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the accent from Spain, where the C,
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which often sounds like an S sound, is
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instead pronounced with a th sound.
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So, Censuro El
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Sine sounds like Censuro
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El Sine. To
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understand why Pedro Almodovar's movies are so
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iconic, we have to start with his
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personal story. Almodovar grew up in
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Spain, in a small country town in the 1950s.
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This was after the
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Spanish Civil War, and the dictator
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Francisco Franco had taken power. David
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says it was a very difficult time
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in the country, socially and
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economically. During his dictatorship,
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Franco censured, or Censuro,
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movies, the media, and
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much more. Almodovar
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was raised by his mother and
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other women in town, so he
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saw firsthand how they barely
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had any rights under Franco's rule.
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Women often had to ask permission
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to work. Divorce was illegal. had
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limited opportunities for education. In
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Pedro's hometown, many women didn't know how to
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read, so his mother often read their
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mail for them. David says that
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the young Pedro loved listening to his mother
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read these letters, especially when she
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got creative. Un
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día, Pedro discovered that his mom invented
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the part of the carton of the
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carton. He was
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the one who was the one. But,
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mother, because she was a child,
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she didn't know the carton. And
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he was the one who was the one. Because
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he was the one who was the
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one. In this moment,
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the mother intended that the fiction
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would be the one to live
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with. This is why, for
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the most part, the speliculus of the world,
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the father of the director, who is
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the one. Almodovar
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followed his passion for storytelling to Madrid. And
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by the early 1980s, the
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dictatorship finally ended and Spain moved
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towards a democracy. The
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transition unleashed an explosion of
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creativity, which would reshape Almodovar's
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life, his career, and all
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of Spanish society. This
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period was called La Movida
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Madrileña. La Movida
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Madrileña for una responsta a la dicta
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lura. Espefiálmente en Madríf.
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Por cábía mucha gente jóven que es
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espressaba con el arte. Naceron
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grupos de musica, pintores
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y directores, como peder almodovar.
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La Movida Madrileña fues su escuela
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de vida. Ese periódo,
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también fú importante para sus
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speliculas. Y lo vemos
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en mujerez al borde de una taker de
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nervios. La cultura y
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los personajes, como todas esa
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mujerez fuertes en dependientes. Que vemos
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a la spelicula, de
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muestran la importancia de tuvo ese mo
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vimiento. Okay,
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now that we know more about what Spain was like in the
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1980s, We're ready to
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talk about the movie and its
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impressive women. The
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movie follows the twists and turns of their lives
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in Madrid in the late 1980s. And
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in it, we see how the main
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characters break down stereotypes. It
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starts with Pepa, a voice director who's
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heartbroken. We see how
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she suffers, or sufre, when
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her boyfriend Ivan suddenly leaves
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her. The story
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is simply universal. Pepa
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sufre por amor, y es
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es algo que todos emos vivido. Pedro
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Almodovar transformo estas situation
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en algo orazioso. Lo
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hace, cola ayuda de
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varos personajes extravagances, caminudo
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seven de las peliculas de Almodovar.
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While searching for her ex, Pepa encounters
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a cast of quirky characters. They
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include her friend, Candela, who's entangled
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in a messy romance, and
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Marisa, who's dating Ivan's son.
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With these women, the movie introduces
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us to the director's distinctive
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style and his quote, chicas
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almodovar, women who break norms,
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or estandares. La
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chicas almodovar son mujeres
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fuertes, compación por
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su cultura. Pedro que
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no tiene miedo de ire en contra
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de los estandares de las ociras. La
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chicas almodovar son actrices
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como carme maura de
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mujeres y otras como
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penelo pecuros. Son
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mujeres tenares que
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no sígen los estandares clácicos de
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la vegésa. La
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chicas almodovar son mujeres no
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conventionales. Y eso las
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ase unica. To
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this day, it's refreshing to see
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different standards of beauty, or beyessa,
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on screen. Despite the
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movie's romantic plot, it also touches on
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some darker themes, including betrayal
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and psychological abuse. Through
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it all, these women find the strength
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to survive, together. Over
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the course of his 50-year career, Almodovar has made over 20 feature
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films. So you might wonder
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why Duo's film club picked this one.
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Well, first of all, the movie celebrates
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women. We see them
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owning their freedoms and inner strength
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after enduring decades of repression under
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Flanko. That set Almodovar
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apart back then and still does to
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this day. Another reason why
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we picked Mujeres is because after it was released
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in 1988, it launched Almodovar's international
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career. Almodovar's earlier films
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during the Movida Madrileña were
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more experimental, but Mujeres is
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a classic Spanish film. And
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while Almodovar's style has become
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more sophisticated over time, Mujeres
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is a super accessible movie,
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with relatable characters and themes. In
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fact, it turned Almodovar's name into a
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new word. The video explains
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what makes something quote Almodovariano.
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Clearly, Almodovar has had
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a huge impact on
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Spain, cinema, and language, but he's also touched
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people's personal loves, like our
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guest, David. Now
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you get a chance to deepen your understanding of the film
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in our segment, Onle Play, or
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Press Play. This is where we
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play a scene from the movie so you can enjoy an
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extra learning moment. We
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picked today's scene because it showcases some
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of the powerful acting in Mujeres. We
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see that Pepa is becoming desperate, literally
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on the verge of a nervous breakdown,
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as she tries to
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reach her ex-boyfriend, Yvonne. She
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calls his home, even though she knows he probably
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won't answer. Instead, another important
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woman in the movie picks up
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the phone. It's Yvonne's
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wife, Lucia. Things
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get tense pretty quickly. The
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scene starts with Pepa inside an old school
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phone booth at work, and a bright
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red phone rings. We
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just heard two of the most respected
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actresses in Spain, Carmen Mauda as Pepper
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and Julieta Serrano
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as Lucia. With only
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a few minds, they bring these characters to
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life. Two resilient women who
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are being mistreated by the same man. Zivid
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says it's interesting how the scene sets
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up another important theme in the movie,
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communication and all the ways it can
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go wrong. Whether
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you've seen Mujeres or not,
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we're pretty sure today's Fun
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Facts or Sato Scuriosos will
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teach you something new about the movie. Okay,
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Fun Facts number one is about color.
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One of the opening scenes features
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Peppa's ex-boyfriend and it's a man's
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world with images in black and
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white. But soon we learn
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that Peppa lives life in vibrant color
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and there's one hue that stands out,
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red. The red is
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the color of the red. Speaking
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of the color red, Fun Fact number
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two is about the bright red tomato
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soup that Deba makes, called gazpacho. Not
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only does gazpacho play an important role
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in the film, it's also a staple
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in Spanish cuisine. Speaking of
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the color red, all of the fun
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fact number three takes us
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to the street. Almodovar
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and his movies are so iconic
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that there's something called La Rúsa
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Almodovar. It's one of several
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tours that takes you to some locations
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where he's filmed, including Pepa's penthouse in
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the heart of Madrid. Okay
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for those who've seen the movie, we have one
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more bonus trivia to share. It's a spoiler. So
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if you haven't seen Mujeres, now's the time to skip
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ahead to the end or come back when you've watched
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it. Okay,
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ready? So, this spoiler
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is about one of the narrative elements
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we mentioned, the gazpacho soup. In
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the movie, Deba spikes it with
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sleeping pills. The character Marisa accidentally
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drinks it, and then she has
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a very interesting dream. Well,
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this was such an intriguing twist
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that Almodovar returned it to the
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gazpacho and, as David explains, made
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it an Easter. egg in some of his later homes.
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Now you're ready to enjoy
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Mujeres al Borde de Una
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Tache de Nervios and so many more films
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by Pedro Almodovar. Thank
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you to our guest David Bednall. We
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wish you the best of luck in
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your thesis about Almodovar. Muchas gracias.
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Y es espero nadirí. This
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episode was written by Sally Goldman, a
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journalist and writer based in Buenos Aires.
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And if you want to get ahead for
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next week's Film Club, we're diving into the
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Spanish version of the beloved animated Pixar film
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