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I say calling

0:57

this man a legend is an understatement. Calling

1:00

him an icon as an understatement. Calling

1:03

him a visionary uh uh,

1:07

A person that is relentless, a

1:10

person that has landed his

1:12

hand to hip hop and could singly

1:14

handily say that he has made hip hop

1:16

a better place. Some of your

1:19

favorite records he's wrote some

1:21

of your favorite artists. He's your artist,

1:23

favorite artist artist. He's

1:26

your rapper's favorite rappers rapper. He's

1:30

your producer's favorite, producer, producer, producer.

1:33

He is a classic legend

1:37

icon means

1:39

so much, and I want to I don't want to limit

1:42

to him to to to because because

1:44

he's he's he's actually from the

1:46

South, kind of dressed like from

1:48

the East Coast and rhyme almost like from

1:50

the East.

1:50

Coast, but landed and goddamn

1:53

the West Coast. So he's a bit

1:55

of every coast hip hop.

1:57

He's a man's man, like I said,

2:00

a legend, legend. And if

2:02

it wasn't for him, some of your favorite

2:04

hip hop artist icons

2:07

will probably never even exist.

2:09

Like I said, he's everyone's favorite. In

2:11

case you don't know who the fuck I'm talking about, we talking about

2:13

the one only that

2:20

still might be one of the hardest, still

2:24

might be one of the hardest ship like and hip hop when

2:26

that's to come on. I had so much fun

2:30

doing research for this

2:32

interview, watching the documentary,

2:35

uh, watching your old interviews,

2:38

watch it, listening to the old music. It's

2:41

like you are sincerely a

2:43

god of hip hop man, man.

2:45

Thank you for that.

2:46

Man.

2:53

Well, first things first, I

2:56

gotta get this off my chest because

2:59

I carried it on my there it a long time

3:03

and I don't want to go too deep into it. But but

3:06

this between me and you, it's personal.

3:10

It was up and smoke to it, and

3:17

it reached out.

3:18

Your hand to me.

3:21

And I was in the middle of my addiction,

3:24

in the middle of a bad trip, and

3:26

so I don't remember everything perbade him,

3:29

but I know I was fucked

3:31

up in it.

3:33

So old you in a polymy. No, no, no,

3:35

no, no, let me tell you something. Let

3:37

me tell you something. No,

3:40

You've been such inspiration and to

3:42

tell you the truth, you

3:45

are legend you. You can't you guys.

3:47

If it wasn't for you guys doing

3:50

what y'all did, I don't think the Queen's

3:52

Bridge slash left rock sound would

3:54

even be invented, you know what I'm

3:56

saying, because of like

3:59

like, like I said, watching the documentary

4:01

and going through all of this and seeing

4:04

seeing your relentless list. Like there was one

4:06

part of the documentary, by the way, I

4:08

cried twice. I cried twice.

4:10

There was one part though, where Drey

4:12

just looked in the camera and

4:15

Dre said, you can't give it away,

4:18

but Dre says something that

4:21

you want all of your friends to say,

4:24

like you want

4:27

I cried to the TV, Like,

4:29

I'm sitting there, my barber's cutting my hair

4:31

and he's like, wait minute, because

4:34

he fills the tears, so I guess

4:36

he's not. He don't want to look at me because he

4:38

looking like, holy shit, this thing of nooy. He's really

4:40

sitting here crying. And I

4:42

love that friendship of yalls, Like how

4:44

did y'all develop that relationship? You and Dre?

4:47

It's uh, it's

4:50

a musical. He's

4:53

the music.

4:54

I'm the words, bro mm

4:56

hm, I

4:58

am the words. What he is it's the music.

5:00

Wow, And so that you

5:02

can't you know what I'm saying. And this

5:05

is when before the world knew who

5:08

he was. I knew who

5:10

he.

5:11

Was world, Yeah,

5:14

yeah,

5:16

yeah.

5:17

But it's it's the sound. It's the quality

5:20

of the sound that he

5:22

produces. It's not the actual

5:25

production to beat making. It's

5:27

the engineering. It's that when

5:29

you're in the studio.

5:30

With the good doctor. I like you call him a

5:32

good doctor.

5:33

That's the sound that day. It's

5:35

because you ain't gotta

5:37

go wait till they get mixed. The matter, none

5:39

of that high sound in that moment. That's

5:42

it, and it's never gonna change.

5:44

It's gonna be that dope all the way through,

5:46

you know, and I always

5:49

respected him

5:51

uh immensely for that, for

5:53

that skill set, I couldn't

5:55

leave.

5:55

It, you know what I mean.

5:56

That's why even after what happened

5:58

to me happened, I stayed up under

6:00

that sound, right, because if I could stay

6:03

close to this sound, I still got these

6:05

words.

6:05

I might not have the voice

6:07

to go with it, you know.

6:10

But you know that

6:12

was like,

6:15

like like I was saying earlier, it's like I

6:17

heard that you said that you wanted to you gave up

6:20

certain times. But the outside

6:23

is looking in. We never saw that part of you. We

6:25

always we only get to see. I

6:28

don't know if it's the.

6:28

Part that was presented or it's

6:32

just that much.

6:32

Of a hero, you know. What I'm saying is that we we didn't

6:35

see the vulnerability part of you, Like

6:37

you know what I'm saying. So was that something that you

6:39

was hiding or that was like some

6:41

of you did on purpose?

6:42

No? Bro, that thank you.

6:44

That's just that's just me as a as

6:46

a human being, right right. I never

6:48

get the show but those sides

6:51

because it's never about me, right, It's always

6:53

about.

6:54

My guys, G O, D, not not the DC.

6:56

Well, yeah, that's ultimate.

6:59

But back in those days, it's always about Snoop,

7:01

Snoop and dre Right and so my roles

7:03

it is just to be in the back.

7:06

And I'm cool with that, sipping on yat. You

7:08

know,

7:12

listen.

7:13

I can't wait for this documentary to actually finally

7:15

come out because I thought, I

7:18

swear to God, I'm not gassing you up

7:20

because you here. I thought that straight

7:22

out of confident, was like nothing could be better than that, right,

7:24

And I'm sitting back, I'm like, this is no other thing

7:27

story, no other story, And then you want to tect

7:30

to me. You're like, wait a minute, it gets

7:32

better. You

7:34

can only imagine.

7:35

I mean, I didn't get to watch it, but there's so many layers

7:37

to your story, going all the way back to

7:39

Texas.

7:40

Bro it is.

7:42

And I used to be humble about

7:44

the ship, but I'm starting to get.

7:46

You know, we're gonna be cocky for you

7:52

and jump for the record. We've been trying to get you,

7:54

you know, I've been trying for a long time. Hold

7:56

on before you even go, Before you go, because our show was

7:58

about giving people they fly. Snoop said that

8:01

when he got his flowers just better than getting the Grammy

8:03

because it comes for his people. We want to give your

8:05

flowers face to face.

8:06

Man, man,

8:07

man,

8:13

you mean so much hours yes, let

8:16

me tell you, you mean so much, not just to

8:18

west coast, not just to the south, not to the east,

8:21

to the whole case.

8:23

Like I can't pitch a hip hop without

8:25

you. Wow, It's like I literally can't.

8:27

Like I believe your first word was eighty seven,

8:30

eighty seven, eighty seven. I was born in

8:32

seventy seven, so my memory it's

8:36

always like they you always

8:38

existed. So I

8:40

cannot pitch a hip hop without you, like, like for

8:42

real, you're a real, real legend, my brother.

8:45

Let's just talk about the documentary without giving up every day,

8:47

right.

8:47

Yeah, I mean, but we can talk about

8:49

the story.

8:50

We don't have to refer the story to the film. We're

8:52

here to talk about.

8:53

Story documentary itself. Jen

8:56

Foe God

9:03

three hip hop documentary

9:05

all time, yep. And

9:08

it might not be.

9:09

Two or three, you know what

9:11

I'm saying, because it's it

9:13

is hip hop. I'm

9:15

the vehicle, but that story

9:18

is about it hip hop. That's why it goes up

9:20

through New York up and that it

9:23

travels like hip hop.

9:24

Did you know what I mean.

9:27

I love the fact apartment because you I love the fact

9:29

that you even brung the doctors in, like

9:32

you know, when you was checking the a voidable code of

9:34

course and things like that. I love that you didn't

9:36

even hide that, like you just you wanted people

9:39

to know your real

9:41

life because.

9:42

It's still an option. Why there's

9:44

still a lives with that, you

9:46

know. Then I think happened

9:49

and that's a whole another bar of ones. But

9:51

so I'm still living at this There's

9:55

some changes I want to make and at

9:57

the end, because

10:00

I want to do something for easy, I didn't get a chance

10:02

to do when they

10:04

that should happened. That that happened

10:07

because his his

10:09

widow reached

10:11

out to me and started talking to me in vacuuming

10:14

my master's back.

10:15

Oh wow, wow wow.

10:17

You said something an interview

10:21

and you said, the thing about the documentary

10:23

is that a fifty year old white man from Arkansas,

10:26

from anywhere in the world could relate to it. I'm

10:28

telling you everybody can relate. I'm telling you, I'm

10:30

telling you that that documentary is not just

10:32

a hippy it's a

10:35

it's a never give up, it's

10:37

a it's a it's a fucking inspirational

10:40

said life documentary. But it's like it's

10:43

like, yo, you're

10:46

a litless list. You're like you're

10:49

even say your even way to say,

10:51

you know what, I was one of the biggest stars in the world.

10:53

I lost my voice, but I'm not gonna lose my

10:55

intentions. I'm gonna pay a team

10:57

player. Like that ship was just so I

11:01

was good sponsors coming through me. I'm just whoa

11:04

because most people once

11:06

they get the place of being Michael Jordan's

11:08

they don't want to be talked Scottie Pippen,

11:11

they don't want to go to but you not only

11:13

it was like you chose that role. He was like, you know

11:15

what, I can't be the player the more,

11:18

but I'm gonna be there. And I'm pining the hardest

11:20

rhymes ever because.

11:26

Because I want my guys to win. Man,

11:29

I want them. I want them to win. Even

11:32

if I can't win, somebody gonna

11:34

win. And

11:36

and snoop, you

11:41

could tell the character of a man he is

11:43

because they always give it back, like

11:45

he never goes nowhere without speaking me,

11:48

lifting me up. And if I needed him

11:51

and called me to be there, you

11:53

know, and like

11:55

jo d Bless me Bro. He put me in the grade

11:58

spot to be a with thero and learn some

12:01

real he lessons

12:03

in his life, you know. And so

12:05

that's why I'm now. I tell folks, it's

12:07

a it's a god thing,

12:09

it's not a doc thing. I'm trying

12:11

to position myself for

12:13

hip hop, not the first

12:16

fifty because the first fifty.

12:17

Was fucked up.

12:19

The next fifty when we get

12:21

to win, when them billions come to

12:23

us the creators and

12:26

float to our people on

12:28

the way we wanted to right And

12:30

we don't have enough of that going

12:33

on now.

12:34

But now that we got this awareness, now

12:37

that we got understanding, now that we

12:39

got opportunities like this show, then

12:41

we can bless our folks. Ain't

12:44

growing this thing in this money game just

12:46

like you know they have, you know

12:48

what I mean. And it's next fifty for me.

12:51

It's about going back to the same

12:53

projects I came from.

12:55

Dallas, Dallas ballas.

12:57

And making sure that what Dallas

12:59

for work, making sure

13:01

that those babies

13:03

have an opportunity to win, Bro,

13:06

because they're living in

13:10

them streets right now.

13:11

They're living.

13:14

The movies we wrote in our

13:16

records, but they're not living and

13:18

with honor the way we act.

13:21

If there's no honor, then you can't

13:23

trust nobody. You

13:26

just out there in the wild West again like

13:28

fuck everything and every and we lose

13:30

them like that. Man, we can't lose these boys

13:32

like that.

13:33

We need them. You know what I mean? What if

13:35

Trump do allow I'm just playing.

13:36

I don't want to go ahead them

13:39

sneaks is horrible, horrible.

13:43

All them go. Yeah, that's what he's said. You

13:46

know what I man?

13:46

So you you want and they and they

13:49

just somebody just read

13:51

somewhere they they just signed

13:53

the bill uh

13:56

in Louisiana that

13:59

allows them boys eighteen.

14:01

Years or you have top to carry

14:03

your seals. You can't even bot a cigarettes eighteen

14:05

Yeah, man, you can buy a guy.

14:07

What what is the purpose? Who

14:09

are the people and why they ain't not on

14:12

TV?

14:12

Let me see what they look like like because

14:14

I'm not getting the game and that because you

14:16

already know what's gonna happen, right right,

14:19

You already know what's gonna happen there.

14:22

If one of these young boys is

14:24

in school and another one

14:26

of them little boys run past

14:28

them and popping in is out one good time, He's

14:30

not.

14:30

Gonna even square up. He's gonna get up and run

14:33

to the lock up. No, why because the ain't.

14:35

Not fighting no more. Bro.

14:37

Now you're out of there, and then

14:39

you lost two lives or three or four

14:41

behind buy some ignorant shit. And so,

14:45

you know, with all due respect

14:47

to the to the program, I don't want

14:49

to be you know, but

14:52

yeah, man, it's it's really important to me

14:55

to get out there and make that stance right.

14:57

I was talking to the k R s UH

15:00

in Dallas just a week ago. We were

15:02

sitting there right

15:05

along the podcast, you know, in

15:07

Dallas, me and Ka har Rests.

15:10

I'm doing some work on the podcast, and we would start

15:12

having this conversation like we gotta

15:14

get out there and do what we can to get our young men

15:17

back on track.

15:19

There's no, it's not a lot of leaders anymore. We

15:21

don't have a lot.

15:23

No, we went. We went from the Martin Luther

15:25

King era right to

15:27

the Frankie Lucas era.

15:29

Yeah, to doctor Umar.

15:42

I've seen Omar there for one time.

15:44

I don't want to. I don't want to tell

15:46

nobody me sneak up on you.

15:50

They have on beads.

15:51

No, but yeah,

15:53

he was a cool brother, you know. I

15:56

don't want to, but.

15:56

I think about it, I can't think of Doctor Umar flying

15:59

the White airline. You can tell me he was a white

16:02

I'm disappointed, Doctor, He's supposed

16:04

to be on black air waves.

16:16

So I'm gonna tell you one

16:19

of my favorite, well some of my favorite stories

16:22

of a hip hop period is

16:24

when I hear anybody who was involved in the chronic

16:27

talking about those sessions. Now,

16:30

obviously we interview Snoop, we interviewed Dazz

16:32

and Corrupt, right, and Dazz

16:34

and Corrupt and Snoop came from like

16:37

a rookie point of view where basically they

16:39

were like and even Snoop to a certain

16:41

extent, but Stop said it was you and him really pinning

16:43

most of it. But

16:46

you, like, doctor Dre is

16:48

different from Snoop and different from Dazz

16:50

and Corrupt because you know what these records can

16:52

get veterans. You know,

16:55

how was those sessions like with you? And

17:00

it wasn't as fun as as as

17:02

well?

17:03

Yeah, man, that was you know,

17:05

because I knew what was gonna happen, right,

17:08

and in the early days, I thought it was gonna be my

17:10

money too, you

17:15

know, But you

17:17

knew what them boys was doing and

17:20

if you fucking with dre Man

17:23

nine ninety nine, nine point nine,

17:26

nine nine, You're gonna win.

17:28

It's difficult not to win

17:31

with with with him doing. But nobody

17:35

was like Snoop Snoop was what

17:38

what what slick Rick was?

17:40

Today's Snoop was that for

17:42

them? Nobody had that, you

17:45

know, That's why I was.

17:46

It was so apropos that

17:49

he did lotty dotty because that's what he

17:51

was.

17:51

On his first album, was on his first album, and it

17:54

made so much sense. It was like

17:56

perfect, Yeah, he was

17:58

a genius.

17:59

I'm gonna I'm not lie from

18:03

deep Cover. When I first heard deep Cover, I

18:05

knew Snoop was different. I knew

18:07

he was this ship. I just didn't know that he would

18:09

be wound up being the most famous rapper

18:11

on earth. Like I love the Boar where you keep saying,

18:14

you say to the kids, you'd be like, y'all know who DC

18:16

is, and they're like, uh, he

18:21

is like the most famous rapper. It is like

18:24

there's no place on earth Snoop can't go.

18:25

Oh yeah, I mean, Snoop is a he

18:28

is a marketing genius. He

18:30

ain't turning down no checks. He

18:32

gonna gonna get it.

18:33

What you said but

18:36

how did.

18:36

You see that in the beginning, because obviously

18:39

y'are dealing with a diamond in the rough, Like it

18:41

wasn't like he came out and was polished. So

18:44

what was it?

18:45

Dre told you about this thought? And then

18:48

yeah, and you're seeing him on the level as an MC. I'm

18:50

sure at first it's just as an MC. You're like, I

18:52

can respect this.

18:53

Oh yeah, I mean I got to help

18:55

him, right, But Dre heard

18:58

him. He said, that's the guy. I said,

19:00

Okay, that's what we're gonna do, you

19:02

know, and follow the league, play

19:05

my role in this movie. Sit

19:07

down with him and take him through structures.

19:10

And because you told him how to do sixteens.

19:12

Make him money? Well yeah, because

19:14

he was right. He was just wrapped for

19:16

thirty minutes and shit, and you

19:19

know, it's cool. It's cool here,

19:21

then they get cool again here. Then

19:24

now you're just wrapping some ship and then he get cool

19:26

right here. You need to remove

19:28

all the ifs and speak

19:31

to the meat that at work. And

19:33

and he figured that shit out by the time he got

19:35

to.

19:38

His record was ship. I couldn't

19:40

tell him shit.

19:41

You know, he was flying U

19:44

and I was happy to be on the ride with

19:46

him.

19:47

Now, was sure your bodyguard at

19:49

first?

19:50

Yeah?

19:50

This is the holl Yeah all

19:53

right, So you're telling me, I don't know if you call.

19:55

It a bodyguard because he was taking

19:57

now you know what I mean about, ain't nobody

20:00

trying to fuck with me? But sure

20:02

was was a friend and

20:05

coming from from Dallas to

20:08

uh to California, going

20:10

from nothing to everything.

20:12

Right, even though you went from Dallas to Confton,

20:15

he moved into continent right over.

20:16

But I'm saying, didn't nobody give a

20:19

fuck who I was in Dallas By

20:21

the time I got to tell, everybody thought I

20:23

was the coldest thing since sliced

20:25

bread, you know, and Sugar started

20:27

hanging out taking me to clubs

20:30

at at twenty years old. You're

20:32

not supposed to get in what you get You going

20:34

in and Eddie Murphy's

20:36

over there and Prince's over there. You

20:38

start filling that vibe when

20:42

the record start hitting and

20:44

then that alcohol start kicking

20:46

in. Then that's why

20:49

you might have thought he was my bodyguard. I'd

20:51

go in there to be a woman over there, but she

20:54

would a guy. But I don't care, you know, I'll

20:56

go over there and do.

20:57

Some raunchy shit because they took they said, do you

21:00

yourself d o C dropping off cock?

21:02

Okay, I

21:05

shouldn't standing

21:09

up.

21:11

Job.

21:14

I'm sorry, but

21:16

what well.

21:17

That's not that's not a thousand,

21:20

but it's close

21:23

close enough.

21:24

You know, we was, we was getting it in back then. But

21:28

still them boys didn't want to let me play.

21:31

You know.

21:31

But you said something one time, you

21:34

said, it's some doors. Ye, I'm

21:39

not a door guy. I

21:43

didn't go to the door either, because

21:47

I'm already on that all. If

21:50

I go through that door, it's gonna be a whole lot of.

21:55

Because I'm not gonna lie to accept none of that.

21:58

It's gonna be a proper.

22:02

Don't let that again.

22:04

You you you Yeah.

22:09

But one thing again about

22:11

the documentary, which is so dope. It's

22:14

not to only see people give you your flowers and

22:16

give you your praises, but to

22:18

see how many people are actually

22:20

your fans. Like I've

22:22

never seen Imminem like be vulnerable

22:24

like that. I've never seen doctor Drake smile

22:26

like that. Like you can tell like he

22:29

really like like you his brother,

22:31

like like it had nothing to do with blood.

22:34

You can just tell, like the way he talks about

22:36

you. Everything is just

22:38

like I love I

22:40

love that people are not afraid to give you

22:43

your flowers. Do you feel that?

22:44

Yeah? Bro, I love that.

22:46

I love it. But it's not the

22:49

type of character you are, you know what I'm saying.

22:50

But when when one of the things

22:53

that you see when you see that that film

22:56

is exactly what you've never.

22:57

Seen Drake like that, right, I never seen

23:00

the mother. Brother's happy, But how did

23:02

that happen?

23:04

And so I know in his heart he's happy

23:06

because he can see this guy might be

23:08

finally getting to that stage where

23:10

he's gonna stand up and take care of his business, right

23:13

you know? So it's that big brother shit. But

23:16

you've seen anything. Even when he started talking

23:18

ship, I'm right there.

23:19

I love ship.

23:21

Hello, and he wanted to he.

23:22

Want to play me about that?

23:25

Listen, y'all, I haven't watched this on

23:29

your job? When is

23:31

this dropping? When is this coming?

23:32

No?

23:32

What I'm still dealing with.

23:36

I'm still dealing with the with the see

23:39

it now, you gotta be very careful.

23:41

Okay.

23:45

I'm not a door guy, you

23:48

know what I mean? And so I gotta figure out what

23:50

what rush the door? You know what I'm

23:52

saying, Because it's important. It's

23:54

an important film. Not just

23:57

for me and nigga boing my

23:59

I'm I'm West Dallas. Nigga tryna

24:03

get my bearings back and

24:05

and and make this life

24:08

mean some shit right Other than

24:10

this, nigga can rap her.

24:11

But you know what I mean.

24:13

I got a seven year old

24:15

son and a nine year old son,

24:18

and Jill d waited til I became a man,

24:20

m to give me those gifts,

24:25

cause I understand that in order for them

24:27

to become a man, they have to see a

24:29

man m.

24:30

You know what I mean.

24:31

So I have to be a man that

24:33

means those things that I those

24:35

childish things. I gotta let that shit go. You

24:38

know, all the

24:40

the the playing games

24:42

for females a well,

24:45

now all the playing games.

24:51

Not show you

24:55

know better, you know, being a

24:57

a righteous father.

24:58

And not just for my son, my sons, because

25:01

it's a lot of sons that don't have nothing,

25:04

you know what I mean, trying to represent for them

25:07

where I come from, because that

25:10

to me, it's just.

25:11

Is just super important.

25:12

When I start trying to do work in the community,

25:14

man and understanding what these young

25:16

boys is doing out there, and I

25:19

said, will blow your mind.

25:20

Bro, and you wonder how

25:23

hot the hell? Well what

25:25

what?

25:26

Like?

25:26

It's just fucking nuts and

25:29

what you thinking?

25:29

What's going on now? Yeah? Yeah, like

25:31

even people making disreconds, that's actually

25:33

recons that's kill kill you record.

25:37

Yeah. I never thought thought

25:39

it'd be that's that's it.

25:41

But that's that bullshit. That that's that ego

25:43

ship. Everybody want to be what Saint

25:45

Jordan's don't. Nobody want to be Scotty. Everybody

25:48

want to be the biggest, baddest, you

25:50

know, wolf wolf.

25:51

It's like brainwashedh it to think that this

25:53

is the route to take that,

25:56

to go public with these crazy

25:58

things, doing these things you're talking about, it.

26:00

Gets you popular.

26:01

It's why these.

26:02

Boys don't think about where you're gonna be at

26:04

in five years. That's what If you ask

26:06

them that that that'll be the hardest question

26:08

in they like to answer because they don't think

26:10

that far. They think you

26:13

can go out and shoot the motherfucker on Tuesday,

26:15

and next week they'll do shit

26:17

again. And that's I

26:20

don't understand that once you start playing

26:23

those games, that

26:25

that life is different, man, you know I man,

26:27

and you might not never make it back to

26:29

these Now I'm giving these kids jews

26:32

from this experience because

26:36

driving with that all in me

26:39

and reckon out on that freeway, that shit

26:41

took almost thirty years from

26:43

me before I got back to

26:45

a space where I can, you know, handle

26:48

some business. You know,

26:50

but I keep telling you it's g O D thing.

26:52

But look at do me a favor though, humor

26:55

meaning let's take it back, because I

26:57

want I want to get into the meat

26:59

and potato of how you got to hear go

27:02

back to Texas, feel

27:04

a fresh crew is starting? How do you how

27:06

does that connect to Ruthless Records? How does

27:09

how do you become an m C? How does that

27:11

connect to Ruthless Records?

27:12

Because I've seen an interview with Easy said he

27:15

was part of a rack crew. I was like, damn, bro,

27:18

that's how he ad.

27:21

That's just he was talking about.

27:23

Okay, okay, and

27:26

we went we weren't the best.

27:31

He was hard like that.

27:34

But uh yeah, So the

27:37

DJ that group was dude

27:39

that was on the radio. He

27:41

used to be in the in the same DJ

27:44

crew that Drake came.

27:45

From Working crew. Yeah, really

27:48

okay, when.

27:48

It was just DJs Florida before

27:51

they.

27:51

Started, when there was wearing the shiny Jackets Jackets.

27:56

They didn't make it till that level because

27:59

that was and they was good already.

28:02

So when he made it to Dallas, he

28:05

had a lot of their underground records,

28:08

and he made their underground music god in

28:10

Dalla Dallas. And then when they visited Dallas,

28:13

dre heard me. He was like, bro,

28:15

you just shit. If you was in La we'll

28:18

be rich. And I was like, shit,

28:20

let's.

28:21

Let's steal it.

28:21

Let's go get the guys judging your musical for the

28:24

FEEDO crew. Yeah, okay, continue, but

28:26

he's singling you out and the crew.

28:27

Yeah, because when I said let's go get the

28:29

other guys, he was like, nah, I ain't talking about.

28:31

That because you wouldn't

28:33

because it just feel the fresh crew in here.

28:36

But but I was like, nah,

28:38

I came. I mean, now, hey, hell no, I

28:41

can't just go to California.

28:43

They gonna lay my.

28:44

Because I think that partner's interested about

28:46

that is you not only moved to California,

28:48

but you moved to Compton, which you said, I

28:50

believe you described it as a beautiful

28:52

place in the daytime, but

28:55

nighttime all home.

28:56

But that's how early in the development of Ruthless

28:58

that you moved in like basically with them.

29:00

Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was a It was

29:02

a motherfucker because I'm not a

29:04

bro.

29:04

I'm not a thug dude, That's never been

29:07

my I'm a writer. I'm an artist

29:09

for real, man. Yeah,

29:11

I love and breed to be good at that, you

29:14

know what I mean. And so when

29:16

I went out there and them boys started, you

29:19

know, I'm gonna do what I can to help y'all. I

29:21

knew that you're never gonna be able to

29:23

get where you can. You're never

29:26

gonna be able to be all that you can be unless

29:28

you can get this stuff that you're doing on the radio.

29:31

So I can write the kind of songs

29:33

fright Eric that are funny.

29:36

And be easy for people who don't know.

29:39

That are that are funny and

29:41

entertaining that won't scare white

29:43

folks.

29:44

You know, they're they'll laugh. I wanna.

29:47

And so that's that was my job.

29:49

So you came up with kind of making him a character

29:51

in a child because you you easy

29:54

does it?

29:54

Yeah? No, easy does it? Yeah? Easy

29:57

does it?

29:57

And the playful rhymes, the way he played loud.

29:59

Okay, I do a motherfucking

30:01

walk by, you know, just funny ship

30:04

in a way that the gang uh street

30:06

guys were respected and Easy

30:08

could carry it because he's not faking

30:11

he Oh yeah, oh,

30:13

he's one thousand percent.

30:15

I never got to me Easy, and I never got to be Tupac.

30:18

Tupac was a real one too.

30:19

Oh yeah, sh you never got

30:21

that close, real.

30:22

Real ship talker.

30:23

He talked ship to me all the time, but

30:27

he waited till I had the wreck and start stalking

30:29

that ship. He first

30:31

time I met him, he was he was still dancing

30:34

for uh

30:38

Underground right he was in He was

30:40

in a limo, and then then we rode

30:43

from the limo to the I was performing

30:45

with those guys. My single just came out,

30:48

performing in Kansas City or somewhere.

30:49

We rode in the limo. Got never said two

30:52

words to me. You know. Now,

30:55

fast forward after my wreck thing happened.

30:58

He and mc breed we're

31:00

really good friends and

31:03

uh direct didn't happened to chronicle

31:05

all the uh that stuff

31:08

has happened, and we in at Atlanta.

31:11

I think this is when he around

31:13

the time he getting into it with the police and

31:16

tearing up Itchy bond over Breed all

31:18

of that stuff and he, uh,

31:20

I'm at Brede's house and he flies in died

31:23

for some brother man. They finally ran your ass.

31:25

I forgot that. I didn't

31:27

like that. That made me mad, you know.

31:30

Yeah it's true, you know, Uh,

31:33

but Nigga not in him good? Uh

31:35

but no he was Uh, he was a

31:37

little ship talking. But he had a he had

31:39

a heart of gold, you know, and

31:42

a solid brother.

31:43

And and I

31:48

have similarities in that seminis.

31:50

Yeah, and now we're we're

31:52

great writers and thinkers and

31:55

good good on the inside and

31:58

shouldn't And it was in that space what

32:00

we shouldn't have been, right, you know, those

32:03

aren't our people. We shouldn't have been in the middle

32:05

of.

32:05

That, right now, do you

32:07

do there's there's there's something found

32:09

what he just said. No, I know that

32:11

there's something that I wanted to reiterated.

32:14

Think about the No Bazanline

32:16

record. Rice Scool comes

32:18

out with this record.

32:19

The.

32:22

Greatest inside

32:24

of it.

32:24

At that point, yeah, well, did

32:30

you feel like I gotta go petitive this back?

32:32

I was like ni.

32:36

Because it never n w A never did a full

32:38

dis It was only just some shots in some songs.

32:40

But but but Benedict Donald,

32:42

I think was the one. But did. Did anybody

32:45

from the crew get mad at you? Like why he ain't

32:47

say your name? Another

32:50

one?

32:51

Because there was.

32:53

Because every everybody if this drink

32:55

chest and they don't this e f N. I think you got

32:57

something going on.

33:03

I think you knew because he had come to the

33:05

hospital and seeing oh wow wow,

33:08

he knew it'd be like trying to beat up a handicapped

33:11

kid at that point, so he just

33:13

told their ass other than I. But I

33:15

was so happy about that because

33:17

he hate.

33:18

Breakfast, you

33:19

know, the greatest record

33:22

his.

33:22

Music from the first line the last.

33:25

You don't let up on none of them.

33:28

But this is a famous argument that

33:30

we had on drink chefs. Well,

33:32

he famously had man, we're gonna bring it up here. Yes, he

33:34

famously had it. And this ice

33:37

cube or Biggie

33:39

Smalls. That wasn't the way it started to

33:41

I hate Did you hear

33:43

about this argument? What did you think

33:45

of this argument? Well, if I'm

33:47

being honest, you have to be pleased.

33:50

That's a hard one, bro, because

33:54

they are too the greatest storytellers

33:56

ever, but they're telling.

33:58

Him in different ways, in different ways.

34:01

And see I'm a MC and

34:04

so the white Big Swing is

34:07

me in

34:11

a competition. I can compete with that the

34:14

ship that you'll be doing, I can't compete

34:16

with that ship because he's doing it in

34:18

a way that that's unfamiliar to me. And

34:21

it's always that furnst line and

34:25

in any of the songs where he added

34:28

it's the first time you know on yeah,

34:31

you know he's gonna tell your ass up from that

34:33

first goddamn line. God damn,

34:35

I'm glad y'all said it. I'll say, you

34:38

already know some shit.

34:42

I gonna lie. I think that was the quietest I've ever

34:44

been in Drink Champ's history, because I had no opinion.

34:47

I just left them again to set the record

34:49

strat. It wasn't what you're saying. He just asked

34:51

me. Tony asked me who was my favorite?

34:54

I said it Cube was always my favorite.

34:57

And then he just took offense to Q being my

34:59

favorite and then throw Biggie. And then that's when

35:01

we started going back.

35:02

Because I understand both arguments. I

35:04

clearly understand both arguments. Like

35:07

if you're from East Coast, when

35:09

Biggie came out, there is very few

35:11

moments other than when Eddie Murphy came

35:13

out that it

35:16

was just a Chris due Locke like, and

35:20

we literally couldn't hear nothing else but Biggie

35:23

on the New York side, including anybody

35:25

into hip hop. This is anything else but Biggie.

35:28

But I was too young to actually

35:31

fill the first version

35:33

of ice Cube Wave.

35:35

So that's the reason why I was like, I

35:38

was a diehard fan. Listen, I'm gonna tell

35:40

you something.

35:41

Before I met West Coast hip hop, I

35:44

was scared of all West Coast artists because

35:46

y'all described the shit. I thought Compton

35:48

was a jail straight

35:51

out of Compton. I was like, wait a minute. I

35:53

was like, I don't want to be locked up here. Like I

35:55

was like, yo, what the fuck? But because

35:58

it was so different from the East Coast

36:00

that when you described it, it

36:02

was like Holy ship. Like when just

36:04

just hearing the description of.

36:06

West Coast, they changed hip hop the way that they

36:08

came out and conveyed that emotion that

36:11

hadn't been done in hip hop's in

36:13

my opinion, and just going back to the ice Cube

36:15

thing, my favorite groups of the time were n w A

36:17

and Public Enemy. When Q belize

36:20

and it's with the Bomb Squad that's it.

36:22

It's solidified for me, who my favorite MC

36:24

at that time was.

36:25

Right, there's a lot of synergy

36:27

between Yeah.

36:29

To me, it's the same opposite side to respect.

36:31

That's right.

36:31

And they had the same energy.

36:33

Dre and I every single

36:35

morning on the way

36:38

to the studio listened to her. It takes

36:40

a nation.

36:41

Every get me. Wow. Wow,

36:44

that's that's that's that's great.

36:46

It was that same energy from

36:48

from their perspective. That's why

36:50

I had that. And it was supposed to

36:52

go that way. But the machine, the

36:55

door guys.

36:58

The fucking door guy store guys got

37:01

it.

37:01

And said we can do it like this and

37:04

it'll do that, and we bought

37:07

that shitty Crush Groove is my favorite

37:09

movie of all time. Right, it's when

37:11

Galaxy Records came. Galaxy

37:13

Records all mofucker.

37:15

Man. I

37:17

wanted to beat ship out there, whoever

37:22

the guy was that played Galaxy Records

37:24

in the movie, because he still run

37:27

away from Russell

37:30

in the movie. And that's what the game

37:32

got shitted on.

37:33

Man. You know, I

37:35

heard you say in the interview as well. He

37:39

said Easy and Sugar

37:41

went through the same thing, and

37:44

I thought that was so deep because

37:49

I don't think I think Easy, I

37:52

think Sugar. Example, was easy

37:56

to the fact that if what you're saying

37:58

is true, that means that Shure

38:01

didn't learn from Easy. He

38:03

took easies as like whatever.

38:06

But most

38:09

street those

38:11

are the two street gangsters that I knew, you

38:13

know, in the industry. I mean not no,

38:16

like no. But what I'm saying is I knew about.

38:18

Easy was that was a powerful thing,

38:21

like what y'all was doing.

38:23

And then death

38:25

Row. I had never seen that neither you

38:28

to be a part of both fucking movements. The world

38:30

hadn't seen what de Throw created. The

38:32

world didn't see what n w A created,

38:36

but you can you can see the environment that

38:38

the music was created death

38:41

Row. I had never seen

38:43

so much power at one point. At

38:45

one point, I remember meeting me going to meet

38:47

Leo Cohens one time through

38:50

the guard. He was in Vegas and

38:53

Leo cohmes, he meets me and

38:55

he goes, I just set.

38:57

Fro guice really

38:59

like, you know, because I'm on my own dick

39:01

at the time. I'm like, wait, death Row

39:03

guys, so whatever. Every

39:07

one of them had a presidential and

39:09

I was just like, at the time, I

39:13

didn't know what that shit meant, but

39:16

I knew what he was saying.

39:17

He was like, no, normal, you don't understand.

39:20

It's most of the time it's one Rowlex

39:23

or it's one He's like every fucking

39:25

person walking with death Row had

39:28

a new fucking Rolex. He said, he

39:30

ran out the way.

39:33

This is what you think because he wanted that for every

39:35

death Jam artist. Is that what I believe

39:38

he did. I believe he didn't want that, and I believe

39:40

that that was the first time you see like black

39:42

power. Like I don't know if it

39:44

was abused because I wasn't privileged

39:47

to be around that much. But

39:50

I remember that, and I remember and

39:53

this is not no racial thing, but I remember, this is

39:55

the most powerful white man in the industry.

39:58

And he looked at me like, joh, let's

40:00

not go downstairs right now, like

40:03

the death real guys just walked by.

40:06

I was like, what, no, no, bro, he was

40:08

a small guy to

40:12

get that ship.

40:15

A little bit and maybe a young dumb

40:17

full of come from the hood. I'm not even respecting

40:19

it. But

40:22

boy, but I had no winds. I

40:24

did not know that. But what I'm saying

40:26

is.

40:27

Some of the things that I have seen, right,

40:29

my brother, what So.

40:31

What I'm saying is because this is what I want to ask. We got

40:33

to get it. You got to see you got to see easy

40:36

one of the most powerful black street

40:38

guys. It's very important for us

40:40

to say, you know, street not because

40:43

of maybe not the education, but for where he came

40:45

from. Here, because it's possible that a

40:47

street guy right now can do it and do it

40:49

right.

40:49

That's right.

40:50

Then you got Shug who actually kind

40:52

of wasn't a street guy. It was a college

40:55

guy that actually got

40:57

some street education and from the streets

40:59

wore up right two different opposites

41:01

and ended up the same exact work.

41:03

You know what, bro, you just added a level

41:05

to it to that I hadn't even thought of a right

41:09

and and that's the hell of a point, you

41:11

know, because I don't know shoes DNA,

41:16

I don't know his story real I

41:18

hear it the same way that other both do.

41:21

I know that he's a thrill

41:24

and twenty five dog

41:29

out there.

41:30

You know that.

41:31

You know, Yeah, he's not mad,

41:33

he's not scared. He's gonna make

41:35

it, do what to do.

41:37

But I

41:39

don't want no point from none of that ship, you know, unless

41:42

I'm loaded, and.

41:43

Then let's go get it. But

41:46

the difference between he and Eric.

41:49

That's easy bigger itself up from heaven right

41:51

now? Yeah? Yeah,

41:54

call me Easy, I call me Eric.

41:55

Do you see

41:58

difference between easy and

42:00

it?

42:01

Sure?

42:05

Sure Easy was quiet, but

42:08

just as powerful. Sure

42:11

was flashy with his power.

42:14

He wanted you to know it, but Eric

42:17

wouldn't. Didn't want you to unless you had

42:19

to know it. But you know he was

42:22

because he was getting it and you gotta show

42:24

it.

42:24

Off because he didn't want to even wrap originally.

42:26

Right. Is that true?

42:27

Well, that's what they said, because.

42:28

That's what That's what I've heard a bunch of times. They was

42:30

like clowning them to get into the booth.

42:33

He didn't have any rap skills at all.

42:36

I love that. His rhythm was horrible,

42:39

but he had charisma.

42:41

Character. That's right, that voice and

42:45

that it that you gotta have to be a

42:47

and authenticity.

42:48

That's right or what he was talking about.

42:49

That's right.

42:50

Because one line he said, ice Cube writes the romes

42:52

down. I

42:54

didn't know how hard that line was, so

42:56

I got older. I was like, he said, you.

42:58

Said, I had no idea he was gonna say that.

43:03

I really want to say, I'm not gonna fake it on the record.

43:06

I'm gonna tell you exactly what's going on, right, And

43:09

you know what, it's crazy. I

43:11

don't think there's no one in this world that don't look

43:13

at Easy as over see. I know everyone

43:16

listen, he told that

43:18

to our face. He didn't he

43:20

wasn't behind the back.

43:21

And they arguing about all of these guys

43:24

and the trade something

43:26

of these kind of that where he can't

43:28

be this because they

43:30

all love it easiest the

43:32

one, you know. But that's that's

43:35

the nature of this. That's why I try never

43:37

to get into those those colors

43:39

conversations because you

43:41

notice this game, nor yet the artists.

43:44

We stand on the shoulders and those that came

43:47

before us, nobody.

43:49

You can't be those that came after

43:51

me. You can't be the greatest without

43:55

me, So we the greatest

43:57

someone.

43:58

It's a collective, it's a colue over the hell you are

44:01

true, But hold up you saying

44:04

and I want to clarify because you said that they ended up

44:06

in the same place, Sugar and Easy.

44:07

What do you mean by that? Because he pretty much

44:09

like you know, came to power and then you know,

44:11

lost their power. That's what Because we really don't know what would

44:13

have happened with easy had he survived. That's

44:16

true.

44:18

See doctor

44:22

Dre was the keeting everything, so.

44:25

You think that's it. Once Dre left, what

44:29

happened? You don't think they would have ever amended

44:31

their their problem.

44:33

Yeah, I think they did. Talks about

44:35

seeing easy in New York at the club.

44:37

I think I think even even in the movie, didn't they

44:39

say that Dre him at the hospital.

44:41

Orth Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that they would have

44:43

figured they started out, yeah at

44:45

the end of the day, but but now business is vass

44:47

Or is different.

44:49

You can't go back to that.

44:51

So you're saying it could have been another record

44:53

besides Grand Finale. I

44:56

would have loved this too.

44:58

Then we can't forget Ren and a part of that equation

45:00

such an incredible as well.

45:03

You know what, I wanted to see easy

45:05

E with a Twitter, easy

45:08

E on Instagram. He might not a humor social

45:10

media Nah, I think he would. I think

45:12

I think he would have been I think I

45:15

think he would have decision.

45:16

He didn't have made a dollar.

45:21

And I notice is kind of a cliche to say

45:23

right now, right because

45:26

most people when they're making history, they

45:28

kind of don't know they're making history or sometimes

45:31

it's kind of like you do you do know

45:33

it from the n WA

45:35

days, Did you know you was a part of the

45:38

most iconic group that thirty

45:40

five years later, people is still the

45:43

same exact way it's like, and

45:46

people are still saying the same exact message.

45:48

It's still fuck the police thirty

45:51

five years later.

45:53

I knew, we didn't know.

45:55

I knew, bro, I knew. See.

45:59

Most think the gift is in my

46:01

pen, but it's in my ears.

46:04

Oh, same

46:06

as d thinks

46:08

it's in its production. And

46:10

it's engineering. That's what the that's

46:13

what the magic is. So anybody,

46:16

anybody can make a head record.

46:17

Anybody can we know, consistent

46:22

making great ship, consistent quality.

46:24

Yeah, you have to have quality control. And

46:27

that's hard for niggas that

46:29

don't give a fuck about quality. They just give a fuck

46:32

about.

46:33

Making sure that you don't disrespect them or

46:35

they look a certain way, or it's

46:38

the stuff they talking about. But Dre

46:40

is an animal when it when it

46:42

comes to quality control. But

46:45

those aren't rumors when they say you'll

46:47

be in there behind that microphone, not

46:50

hours on a word on

46:53

a word he said. Now,

46:56

when I put the script on his ass and got

46:59

him in.

46:59

There that

47:02

you don't like that,

47:04

But.

47:06

He taught me that you.

47:07

Probably the only one who could do that to him. Though I think he

47:10

don't like it, that's good, that's great.

47:12

He does not like it.

47:13

I bet you the vocals come out good. That's right, that's

47:16

what we want.

47:18

And uh

47:19

uh, but I've

47:21

seen them boys grow into

47:23

great iconic figures

47:27

and I'm I'm extremely blessed

47:30

that I call them guys and my brothers right

47:33

and to have been on that journey

47:35

with them man and go

47:40

through that learning process. But but ship,

47:42

I'm ready for mine now. You know,

47:45

I love my guys, but

47:47

I'm trying. I'm trying to make some new dealc

47:50

ship starting with that film

47:52

right then going into these communities

47:55

with these schools and these programs.

47:59

Then more mut.

48:00

Music, whether I had an operation

48:03

M or just use

48:07

this AI opportunity. You

48:12

know, I haven't figured that out yet.

48:15

AI opportunity saying like use the AI for

48:19

little bit his penant.

48:21

He'll he could even say if lady was trying

48:23

to do that, Yeah, I heard that too.

48:24

I think cigarettes out to me about that. Yeah

48:26

yeah, and

48:27

uh, you know, everybody

48:30

feel this way.

48:31

They feel that way, but it's

48:33

not possible for me unless

48:35

I get those masters back. So when

48:37

the lady called and said she was

48:39

interested in giving me my master's back,

48:42

it seemed like a g O.

48:43

D thing.

48:44

Okay, you ain't gotta go get cut

48:47

on it. If you you want it back that bad,

48:49

I'll give it to you. You know, trying

48:51

to tell me that this voice is important.

48:53

You need to keep this one because

48:55

when you talk now, motherfuckers are

48:57

doing this trying to

49:00

what the fuck you gotta say. And so I'm

49:02

gonna take it advantage of that that opportunity

49:05

and and do the right thing with it. But

49:11

artistically, it's

49:14

much more important for me to

49:17

see if I could do in Dallas for what

49:19

I did, and Dallas for worth

49:21

of what what I helped do in

49:24

l A. That's where I'm at

49:26

with it.

49:26

It's a legacy thing for you.

49:27

Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.

49:29

I ain't got the money

49:32

yet, but

49:35

uh, I got

49:37

my mind back. I mean, that's

49:39

the most important thing. I don't

49:42

you know, I don't consume.

49:44

Uh.

49:47

I try to stay away from all things for that

49:49

now. Now will smoke a little bit, which I

49:54

will smoke it, uh,

50:00

but you know, I lead other stuff along

50:03

because it's a detriment to

50:05

me and other folks that have struggled

50:08

with that stuff. I try to,

50:10

uh, you know, be responsible

50:12

enough to be a light for other people that

50:14

might be going through that same ship

50:17

that I had to go through, because it's not gonna

50:19

help you, you know what I mean.

50:21

If you're run him from some ship trying to.

50:23

Find it in a bottle or in them pills

50:26

or or that

50:28

that that that yeah yo, or whatever

50:30

you're fucking.

50:31

With, just be honest a poison.

50:33

I in love what.

50:36

You know, whatever you're doing it,

50:39

you're only gonna get past about by by

50:41

facing your demon right whatever.

50:43

That is. Another one, let's

50:45

talk about Future Shock right. That

50:48

was the name of the label before Death Row Right and

50:50

then and at that time when it was called

50:52

Future Shot, I believe it was

50:54

you, Dre and Shock as

50:57

partners.

50:58

It was me and Dre's company on the

51:00

thirty five percent apiece.

51:03

Okay, uh, there was h thirty

51:06

percent left and Sugar

51:08

and Dick Griffy where that where

51:10

to split.

51:11

That that that Harry came after that,

51:13

yeah, okay, so so Sugar

51:15

Dick Griffy took the other half.

51:18

Yeah.

51:18

Well, by the time Ireo

51:21

came Sugar and Drake took it a

51:23

haul, and and

51:25

and when they did their business with uh, with

51:27

Jimmy.

51:28

With Jimmy, and what was your relationship

51:30

with Jimmy. He's the only one I didn't see

51:32

it in the documentary.

51:33

I think Jimmy is a great guy. He's been He's

51:36

been a real positive

51:40

uh influence on Dre right

51:43

and helping him get to where he is today. Right

51:46

they made He's helped my my guy

51:48

make big as the dollars, right. And

51:50

so I can't get anybody a lot for Jimmy,

51:53

you know.

51:54

Uh.

51:56

And i'ma I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick with that story.

51:59

I kind of I kind of felt like Jimmy was special

52:01

when when

52:05

Dre left right and

52:09

it was said because I mean, obviously I'm not in

52:11

the business like that, it was said that he

52:13

left millions behind, like when he left death

52:15

Row, he left millions behind, but he chose

52:19

to leave, but he chose to

52:21

stick with Jimmy's right. I knew

52:23

that they had a special type of relationship.

52:26

I knew that Jimmy

52:28

had to make whatever it

52:31

was with sug right, but

52:33

he had to make sure that he made sure his golden

52:35

chob was right, and I remember it

52:39

was an aftermath project and then it was

52:41

a Firm project, which I was a part of. I was a part

52:43

of the Firm project was one of one of the most successful

52:45

records on the Firm projects. You can look

52:48

it up. You can look it up. I

52:50

remember, I remember, like I

52:53

mean, recording with Dre at that time, and you know, he was recorded

52:55

with a bunch of East Coast guys nas A Z.

52:58

Kimmels around.

53:00

No.

53:00

I believe, no, I don't think he was

53:02

around that, and I believe it was like

53:04

Dre's like

53:07

like I don't want to call it purgatory, but it's like somewhere

53:10

where like you know, it wasn't he

53:12

wasn't. He wasn't. He was getting it together still.

53:14

It's getting together still. And I

53:17

just remember him sticking with Jimmy, and I remember

53:20

there's something special about that relationship.

53:22

There's something because most

53:25

people, like with the strict situation, he

53:29

would have blamed. Most people were blamed Jimmy as well.

53:31

Because he wasn't in business with both of

53:33

them at the same time, but both of them.

53:35

But the fact that Drake didn't

53:38

and it was like I'm gonna move on, but I'm

53:40

gonna move on with you. I knew that Jimmy

53:42

was bro.

53:43

It ain't want to see you know, and you know

53:46

what was going on in that But sure

53:48

that created this world, but he

53:51

controlled it. Dude

53:55

said, content is like prison, and

53:58

really going to that studio every day

54:00

it was being like being on the yard. You

54:02

know you bro, it was it

54:05

was rough. They was in there looking

54:07

like they was ready to bench press

54:09

eight thousand pounds.

54:13

And ready to just do whatever going

54:16

on.

54:16

Because I know this blood. I

54:19

mean remember the Warren g story alone. I don't

54:22

remember you ever seeing you wear rat at all.

54:25

Look like you, brother, I don't remember

54:27

you ever seeing you wear rat.

54:28

Oh yeah, I wear red. Oh

54:32

you know, Mom'm just a gu'ma I'm a good

54:34

nigga. Ray I can go. I can

54:36

go anywhere. Yes,

54:38

I go to I go to content. If I'm in, if

54:41

I'm on one side, they call me d oc. If

54:44

I'm on the other side, they call me d o B. I

54:48

answered, everybody, it's

54:58

all good because I never going

55:00

to I never understood

55:02

that.

55:03

That uh, the politics and.

55:04

Mentality the way the way they did. I was raised

55:07

in Dallas, Texas, man we.

55:09

Did in the projects.

55:09

Yeah, we didn't get out like that, right,

55:12

you.

55:12

Know we was in gang banging going on.

55:14

Well, when I left, there wasn't banging.

55:16

Right until I came back. Yeah, or

55:18

when I came blood and gripping.

55:20

I mean, listen to the ice cue Summer vacation,

55:23

right. Oh, I always saying this

55:25

shod the movie of that doll explain everything.

55:27

I left Dallas in eighty

55:29

seven, eighty eight. When

55:33

I came back with a finished record in eighty

55:35

nine, when I left,

55:37

it looked like everybody looked like Hudiny. When

55:41

I came back, everybody looked like Easy,

55:43

the whole.

55:44

Fucking city era.

55:47

It was like a cultural shock and shit, I

55:49

was like, what the fuck did happened?

55:51

Like these people haven't changed with me. You were to call and they went

55:53

to Collon too.

55:54

I came back. I thought I was messing with They all

55:57

looked like me, and.

55:59

We was all trying to look like Eric Easy.

56:02

But what but what you what you said earlier

56:04

today, uh

56:07

about that time period is exactly

56:10

correct, right, that hip

56:12

hop is still in

56:14

that same spot, and Easy

56:17

is still the prototype

56:19

for every hip hop commercially

56:22

successful artist that's in the game.

56:25

Ninety nine point nine percent of them today.

56:28

Right. I mean if you listen to

56:30

what you guys was waiting for Easy and you

56:32

listen to Trill, your other father

56:35

of it.

56:37

Yeah, listen to Trill

56:39

music now Cbe was

56:42

no, No, you gotta take that part too.

56:45

No, I tell you that you gotta take

56:47

that part to Cube was.

56:48

The spirit but in w

56:50

A that's why it had a revolutionary.

56:56

Right on Cube lift Easy.

56:58

Is just a thug just want to talk about

57:01

murder, death, guil.

57:02

They don't give a fuck who dies, And

57:05

so that's wh it turned into that and

57:08

that's what the world was built up off

57:11

of.

57:11

And at least as far the music is concerned.

57:13

But I mean had a little revolutionary site. It was

57:15

just he was way more hardcore about.

57:17

It, right, But Cube

57:19

was que

57:23

led led

57:25

those guys musically

57:28

artistically. Yeah, you know what I mean?

57:29

When when when he rolled and we followed

57:33

the pathy when he left, you

57:35

know, everybody's just talking about, like

57:38

I said, murder, death, guil uh

57:40

rn and started doing uh

57:43

it's more revolutionary

57:46

stuff that he did his record

57:49

and then he could lead this because he was

57:51

following error. He was following the Easies lead

57:53

after Cube left.

57:55

You know, you know what's crazy people say

57:58

that since then that was that's probably like the West

58:00

the last West Coast on West Coast Beat.

58:05

Or l A.

58:06

Yeah, I mean you're game and rast cast

58:10

but other than ice.

58:13

Cube Verse and and it

58:16

got got pretty serious with the Lynch Mob

58:18

and and with n w A.

58:20

Yeah, it got pretty serious to step in,

58:22

right, I

58:24

don't remember.

58:26

I think farrakhn was a part.

58:28

Of q Cormon and yeah he got involved

58:30

in that one, yep.

58:31

But but it

58:35

may have been the hostile on records,

58:37

but it never made it streets,

58:39

Yeah, never made it very far. Chase Dreve

58:42

wasn't trying to and

58:44

I don't think easy was it

58:47

was.

58:47

You know, he was still winning, right,

58:49

you know, he had found the bone guys, right,

58:52

so he was back in the game, mh.

58:55

And we was just trying to figure out how

58:58

we going in where the you go now?

59:00

Because Cravers, I don't want

59:03

to say afraid he

59:05

didn't know what he was gonna do. You

59:07

know, he didn't want to do a record. He

59:09

didn't like his voice, you don't like how

59:11

he sounds. He doesn't think he could carry up

59:14

a solo record, like

59:16

yes, you can.

59:17

Just want to be behind the boards.

59:18

Yeah, but

59:21

no, bro, you all we.

59:22

Got his name was too big.

59:24

He was the one and don't worry about it.

59:26

I'm gonna be right here and we don't want to woo. But

59:29

he didn't feel it. But when Snoop came

59:32

and uh one, she played a demo

59:36

which Snoop Yeah.

59:38

Two three, that's warm and g Snoop and.

59:41

Yeah played at a bachelor

59:43

party for somebody that's crazy,

59:46

and and the bachelor party loved

59:48

Snoop. Snoop came to the studio

59:50

the next day or two and

59:53

and.

59:53

That was it. You know, it

59:55

was on after that and they

59:58

he moved.

59:58

Snoop moved from Long Beach

1:00:01

into my house in

1:00:03

the valley and we

1:00:06

did that for about six months. Then

1:00:08

I got kicked out and we all

1:00:11

moved into drad But

1:00:17

that's how he got made. But

1:00:20

we be in that small and dank

1:00:23

and somebody will say something and then we'll be back

1:00:25

at it.

1:00:26

You know, it was beautiful. It was beautiful

1:00:28

times because it was just a close knit group

1:00:30

of friends.

1:00:31

I can't lie to you when I look at the footage.

1:00:34

Are y'all making the chronic and

1:00:36

y'all just in the studio and Dre hitting

1:00:38

the pianos and y'all just sitting there

1:00:40

bullshitting like I just wanted

1:00:42

to be a fucking fly on the wall, bro Like,

1:00:45

because again, I

1:00:47

just asked you this question earlier. Did you

1:00:49

know he was making history? He said,

1:00:51

you kind of did.

1:00:52

Oh, yeah, you had to know him because already

1:00:54

what you're accomplished of that.

1:00:56

Even if that's the case, you might

1:00:58

have known you making history and you

1:01:00

don't know the grad video is

1:01:03

because I mean, you

1:01:06

know how it's gonna impact where it's gonna go.

1:01:08

Well, when you made the chronic you heard

1:01:12

just like you heard it.

1:01:13

I heard it.

1:01:20

Imagine that the studio you

1:01:22

already know what it was.

1:01:24

And you went from

1:01:28

she Thinks to little Ghetto

1:01:30

Boy to raditat

1:01:32

Tide and all of these. He was like, Oh, he's

1:01:34

finna kill these mother and then Snoop

1:01:37

is gonna be matter of fact, one

1:01:39

Deep Covered drop. Yeah,

1:01:43

he was like, oh man, this shit is over with this nigga's

1:01:45

mylan and Dre the

1:01:49

video to Deep Covered Trade didn't even want to do

1:01:51

the video. I had to trick him

1:01:54

to get up in.

1:01:54

The show and say just give him a.

1:01:57

Man.

1:01:58

He was salted at the mother bird because

1:02:00

he didn't want to do the video. By the time

1:02:02

you got your ass up there, you lake

1:02:04

the back out.

1:02:05

Now you can kind of see it in his face I think in the

1:02:07

video.

1:02:08

Damn, like he's bitter.

1:02:11

He was bist want to be there.

1:02:14

You had to get him now.

1:02:15

But that record single handedly was

1:02:18

like they set off that whole movement, and

1:02:21

it was crazy because it's who is Dre.

1:02:24

Everybody knows Dre, and it's this brand

1:02:26

new artist being put out there equally with Dre.

1:02:29

So that's what makes a crazy impact.

1:02:30

Everyone's scared to death if

1:02:32

you if you look at that, that video

1:02:35

so bad as a problem

1:02:38

connecting with the camera, the camera

1:02:41

because he doesn't know yet.

1:02:43

All street people, well, let me tell you something.

1:02:45

If you from the streets, if you look at anybody

1:02:47

that's from the streets, you cannot look

1:02:49

at the camera direct because we were taught not

1:02:51

to be in front of the cameras, and then we go

1:02:53

from not to be in front of the cameras to saying,

1:02:56

hey, oh so you're

1:02:58

always the most awkward in your first year. So said,

1:03:00

I didn't know that. Continue the g Thang video.

1:03:03

You see it the deep cover video.

1:03:05

You see it, but now you're seeing

1:03:08

you know what I mean. But he's

1:03:11

got he's on him. He's making shrimps

1:03:13

with Martha. Now you

1:03:16

know what I'm saying.

1:03:17

That's all up there with old Martha.

1:03:19

But Martha did the bed though, yeah, Martha

1:03:22

Gangster. No, no, yes, I

1:03:24

think Martha got a razor on her though. She

1:03:27

tried chopping it up with Snoop's got a razor.

1:03:30

He motherfucking tongue.

1:03:30

Yeah, she loves you do.

1:03:33

I want to talk about the Stewart. I want we

1:03:35

gotta have on drinks.

1:03:43

Whoever you have, you drink?

1:03:45

Okay, so we got, we got. This is a game we're

1:03:48

going there right, let's call it quick time of

1:03:50

slop. So we know you're not drinking.

1:03:52

If you want one of your homies to be a designated

1:03:54

drinker.

1:03:54

You could do that. You

1:03:56

have me, okay, all right, Phil

1:04:00

Jamie, you gotta fill them up over.

1:04:02

There, Freddy game, all

1:04:04

right, you got Freddie.

1:04:06

Gang Yeah yeah, yeah,

1:04:09

yeah. So this is how we play.

1:04:12

So if you can pick one

1:04:14

or the other, if you pick both of you be politically

1:04:16

correct, then then then your

1:04:18

friend drinks.

1:04:19

But we're gonna drink. Drink we're gonna leave

1:04:22

them out there. You know what I mean, and it is meant

1:04:24

to trick you. So both are neither yeah, both

1:04:26

or neither answer.

1:04:27

We're drinking. And by the way, we don't make up these questions.

1:04:29

Me and the human guy is the Colombian

1:04:32

guy Dominicans, so

1:04:36

we don't make up these questions. Okay, by the

1:04:38

way, this first one off top. You're gonna drink, sir. We're

1:04:40

all drinking a drinking

1:04:42

Okay.

1:04:45

Uh with the drinking.

1:04:47

We got all kinds of so whatever you want, whatever you want,

1:04:49

what do you have them? Okay, we do vodka?

1:04:51

Yeah, okay, you ready Jamie,

1:04:55

doctor dre or snoop.

1:05:03

Because I knew you was gonna do that.

1:05:07

I thought

1:05:12

about that

1:05:17

because I.

1:05:25

Might as well bring a couple. Mine

1:05:27

is here. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink,

1:05:30

you say both, right, you

1:05:33

know what. I'm not only drinking to that, but

1:05:35

I'm drinking to the love they have for you. Again,

1:05:43

I'm not I want to give up the documentary, but

1:05:45

I want I want to send people to go watch this motherfucker

1:05:48

ship. We should premiere here. I would love,

1:05:50

I would love, I would love to let me say something.

1:05:53

Let me just say something. It's not it's

1:05:55

not today, it's not today. Show show

1:05:58

him love. It's the

1:06:00

genuineness in their voice.

1:06:02

Like when you look at them at that documentary,

1:06:05

they proud to be there. You

1:06:07

understand what I'm trying to say.

1:06:09

They they are

1:06:12

happy to lend their time to this

1:06:14

legacy.

1:06:15

Shared legacy and real relationships,

1:06:18

real relation that's what people need done this.

1:06:20

So I gotta tap my hat off to you to

1:06:22

them for that solo.

1:06:26

Mmmm that

1:06:28

one.

1:06:28

You need an ice in there warm

1:06:32

my chest got mad hot. And

1:06:34

if you've got any stories while anybody we mentioned, stop

1:06:36

tell us the story.

1:06:38

What's your name?

1:06:39

My man?

1:06:39

Freddy K? Yeah, freddy K. He's gonna get you fucked

1:06:41

up today

1:06:46

if you be

1:06:48

fucked up with you though for all the years of him not drinking,

1:06:51

because that was one of the parts of the documentary

1:06:53

too, He said, I haven't drank in fifteen

1:06:56

and they said, what is that? Fifteen days? Okay?

1:07:01

Easy or tupac.

1:07:04

M y'all

1:07:08

ain't right.

1:07:10

I take a shot for that.

1:07:11

Yeah, you got the train, so.

1:07:19

Okay, you get the next one.

1:07:20

You're right there, right bro? You want to be doing.

1:07:24

Ice Cuba scarface go.

1:07:27

Ahead, bro, I

1:07:31

just show. I was just with Face last

1:07:34

night.

1:07:35

Don't tell me y'are playing golf.

1:07:36

No, yeah, I'm showing down.

1:07:38

Okay, okay, okay. And he wanted a

1:07:40

coin on the desk ding. Oh

1:07:42

that was oh the tiny desk. Yeah yeah,

1:07:45

he.

1:07:45

Killed, yeah, killed.

1:07:47

I think that's one of the best tiny desks I've ever seen,

1:07:49

bro Like.

1:07:50

It was at a place in Dallas called

1:07:52

the Bomb Factory

1:07:55

and went straight out of comfin the

1:07:57

movie came out.

1:08:00

Motherfuckers was blowing my people

1:08:02

were blowing my, you know,

1:08:04

blowing me up like you in

1:08:07

the market.

1:08:08

They talked me into doing a concert,

1:08:13

and.

1:08:15

And and Face was in. Face

1:08:18

was locked up in.

1:08:19

Atlanta,

1:08:23

and he got one of the boys from Houston to

1:08:27

get to bond him out so

1:08:29

he could catch a flight to get home

1:08:32

to Houston. Then drove four

1:08:34

hours to Dallas

1:08:37

to be in that show with me.

1:08:39

Face right.

1:08:41

So when he when I heard it, he was,

1:08:43

I said, all right, hell, I gotta go down there and stump

1:08:46

to yawn for my guy. So

1:08:49

scar faced me in a lot, he said, Texas.

1:08:51

He said, he's an alarm from my state,

1:08:55

one of the few guys that's

1:08:58

in my class. That I really

1:09:01

respect. In fact, he was in

1:09:03

a rat pack that was in Atlanta in

1:09:06

those days.

1:09:07

It was me and bim

1:09:09

C.

1:09:11

Park and Breed Richie

1:09:14

rich from Atlanta and took them from Oakland

1:09:17

and too Shortland.

1:09:19

Yeah, and we all hung out.

1:09:21

Everybody was living in Atlanta. Yeah, Eric Sermon,

1:09:23

who was down there.

1:09:25

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

1:09:27

very very you got a very important man.

1:09:30

Magic was my friend. Yeah, because

1:09:32

I was bawling then and

1:09:34

I was going there and man, lean.

1:09:36

She said, you had a better than this, but

1:09:38

you used to go to sleep.

1:09:40

That was in my dis days.

1:09:44

I was one of the few people that that, like

1:09:47

when anybody's ever been in Magic, the

1:09:50

o g one. You know, you you walk

1:09:52

in and the club is

1:09:54

over there, but when you see as you walk

1:09:56

in the door, there's no door right here that

1:09:58

leads downstairs.

1:10:00

That's where he got the layouts.

1:10:02

That's what Magic's office is,

1:10:04

and the girls go to the to do their thing.

1:10:07

I was one of the few folks that Magic would let

1:10:09

go down, man, because I was just loaded.

1:10:11

Man, I don't even know how to ask now.

1:10:14

I'm just walking through it, like and

1:10:16

they lit that ain't nobody that's die. Let him

1:10:18

alone. I'd be down that doing man,

1:10:20

look in you

1:10:23

couldn't put that part in.

1:10:24

The movie.

1:10:26

Drink Drink.

1:10:28

I think

1:10:33

we chaers the ecstasy on the low. I'm just dreading it

1:10:35

before ecstasy, I believe

1:10:38

evolved their heads somewhere. I'm just being all

1:10:40

right, okay, A just one go

1:10:42

ahead, Na's or jay Z.

1:10:50

Boy, You're gonna be fucked.

1:10:52

I like it.

1:10:54

Damn I feel bad, you know, man.

1:10:57

Let me tell you something. And this

1:11:00

this.

1:11:02

It's kind of because I met The first

1:11:04

time I met do Eyes, it was

1:11:06

in the middle of my addiction for Wow.

1:11:09

And he rode

1:11:11

his bicycle along.

1:11:13

I went to I was doing a video for

1:11:15

a song called on

1:11:19

that Elter Skelter record and

1:11:21

what's.

1:11:22

The guys

1:11:24

just nutsty it's the

1:11:27

the.

1:11:27

Title from Dre and

1:11:29

made the album myself and

1:11:31

put it out. That's why you never heard.

1:11:35

But uh,

1:11:37

he rode his bike all the way uptown to

1:11:39

holler see doc out.

1:11:42

And when you when you.

1:11:46

Mhmm out there,

1:11:49

you know it's it's a it's

1:11:51

a weird space, bro.

1:11:52

Like when you're when

1:11:54

you when you fucked up, you

1:11:57

really don't want to like be around or you don't

1:11:59

want to be around nobody. You

1:12:02

just want to be somewhere where you got. I guess

1:12:04

you can think. I guess.

1:12:05

I don't know, but uh,

1:12:08

it wasn't the best introduction doing.

1:12:11

But he was a gentleman man, so

1:12:13

much class, and uh

1:12:16

I had I had a chance to say the same thing.

1:12:19

Then I said sin to you years

1:12:21

later.

1:12:22

Uh.

1:12:22

And so I never had a chance to meet jay

1:12:25

Z. I never met him, So I

1:12:27

don't have any reference for him.

1:12:30

But I got h got

1:12:32

tons of respect for nurs

1:12:34

not just as a as an MC

1:12:36

is one of the goats, but just

1:12:39

as a human being.

1:12:40

Let's take a shot to that. You know who he picked.

1:12:43

Let's take a shot.

1:12:44

He's

1:12:48

saying, drink. I feel like it's

1:12:50

gonna be that one for us today.

1:12:52

Okay, Jacob put my name and a song.

1:12:54

I can't That's why you know, I can't go the other

1:12:57

way.

1:12:57

Now you

1:13:00

see that he was the R O c R. Public

1:13:03

Service Anno, that's goddamn it.

1:13:05

Come on, Boys in the Hood

1:13:08

or Medicine Society and Minister's Society. The

1:13:11

movie Yeah yeah, yeah,

1:13:19

I ain't right. They

1:13:23

could be whatever criteria you whatever criteria

1:13:25

you want. Maybe he was on a good movie. When you saw

1:13:27

one movie.

1:13:29

Man, that's just bad y'all trying to just do a

1:13:31

nigga.

1:13:34

Because Menace was a great movie

1:13:37

for that time, Old dog Yeah,

1:13:39

man.

1:13:40

It was a great movie for that time.

1:13:42

M C eight was incredible in that movie. Now

1:13:45

I'm like nigga, he was old dog man. I'm

1:13:48

scared them.

1:13:49

Saying, why

1:13:51

are you kidding me?

1:13:53

Got Man of Curs and Ship? You meeting little like

1:13:55

nigga? You o dog man,

1:13:58

he's a real actor. That's what a Man of Curas in mass

1:14:00

Carroll on and Ship. I'm just playing

1:14:03

and boy to

1:14:05

say, man, it's on that one really Okay,

1:14:07

man, it's okay, that's cool. We ain't drinking all right.

1:14:10

The Chronic or Doggy Style and

1:14:13

this one says he must pick one. I didn't

1:14:15

they put that. They put

1:14:18

in parentheses in.

1:14:18

The Chronic even though

1:14:22

sonically Doggy

1:14:26

Style is a much better record.

1:14:28

Uh, I

1:14:31

kind of kind of get I got that. I listened

1:14:33

to him back and forth yesterday.

1:14:35

But the songs, the

1:14:37

actual songs that are put together are

1:14:40

better on the Chronic.

1:14:41

It's a better journey.

1:14:42

It's more fun, right, entertaining

1:14:45

the foundation to it. Yeah, it's the foundation.

1:14:48

Yeah, he learned to perfect that

1:14:50

for doggy style.

1:14:51

Yeah, and

1:14:54

there's a song called.

1:14:59

I've been Top and stop it like a rabbit

1:15:01

when I get the mini rocks, you know, like I still have it

1:15:04

ship.

1:15:04

Isn't it? Yuh?

1:15:07

First time I've heard Snoop freestylear

1:15:10

song. There's no words to that,

1:15:13

and it wasn't I'm a sit and think of the

1:15:15

line and say the next line. It

1:15:17

just came in and started rapping it. It's

1:15:19

why the line the rhymes.

1:15:22

Maybe Sam elementary because that's the way

1:15:24

he structured his stuff as a kid.

1:15:26

But he that song took about three

1:15:28

minutes to make seem like the

1:15:31

nigga just came in there. Drake cut the beat on, dude

1:15:34

started rapping. Drake said, stop, get

1:15:37

out the booth, wait

1:15:39

for wait for the break, then come back

1:15:41

here in a minute start stop

1:15:45

starting, no no

1:15:48

retakes, no nothing, one time through.

1:15:51

That was one take, one time through.

1:15:54

And the only other.

1:15:55

Person that is ever I've

1:15:57

ever seen do that besides

1:15:59

myself and the studio was corrupts.

1:16:02

He Rubb was a one take guy, a lot

1:16:05

a lot.

1:16:06

You know.

1:16:07

He brings us to our next question, dazz

1:16:10

are corrupt?

1:16:11

Oh man, y'all I

1:16:15

can't do it. Y'all better get you something. Who

1:16:22

is we go?

1:16:23

I'm gonn talking about the time I hung out with you and Dog Pound

1:16:25

two. I don't know if you remember.

1:16:26

We go to those

1:16:28

guys, really, man, those Long

1:16:30

Beach guys, really,

1:16:33

the Donald Pound guys really made la because

1:16:37

me and Dry used to feud.

1:16:39

Because even though Long Beach is not considered l a right,

1:16:41

it's not considered that's right. Okay, but those

1:16:44

days took me.

1:16:44

Today they hood and I'm on

1:16:47

the block with these boys, and I'm kicking

1:16:49

it.

1:16:49

Like you know, there's no red in Long Beach. It's

1:16:52

all blue.

1:16:54

I don't have to worry about where

1:16:56

I am or no, you

1:16:59

know, because I'm with these

1:17:01

boys and I haven't seen I

1:17:04

don't seen these I haven't

1:17:06

seen folks get.

1:17:07

Killed for you

1:17:09

know, just aroun from sixties

1:17:12

right, Let me not he he

1:17:15

wants to you to know he's from sixty Oh yeah,

1:17:17

he don't play that.

1:17:18

But he from Philly, from

1:17:21

but but he but he he's a he's

1:17:23

a neighborhood guy.

1:17:25

Every now and then I just like to get corrupt

1:17:27

mad because I like to have him to do you cut.

1:17:38

Let me tell you something if you've never heard Corrupt

1:17:40

curse when he's in crib.

1:17:42

Mole, it's the wonderfulest

1:17:45

thing ever. I'm just being honest with you. But

1:17:47

you just gotta pis him of up a little bit and

1:17:50

he he can't stop saying.

1:17:52

Cook cook cook cook cook cook,

1:17:54

coup cool on and he just keep

1:17:56

going and he.

1:17:59

It's the it's the most beautiful ist binocular.

1:18:03

I was in the human language when

1:18:06

Corp is mad and he's just on

1:18:08

his cuk cook cut me.

1:18:10

And uh Corrus going

1:18:13

at it. When I was when I out

1:18:16

there, I hang with them boys. During

1:18:18

that Grammy celebration,

1:18:22

I was talking to Corrupt and he was, you

1:18:24

know, Cruppers a dude, deep dude, Like

1:18:26

you don't get that from him just

1:18:28

on GP. But he's a deep

1:18:31

thinker. He's just is you know what I mean,

1:18:33

Like you can't come up with words.

1:18:34

Like lyricists yet and

1:18:37

he drink. Oh yeah, yeah,

1:18:41

but he was.

1:18:41

But I was. I was in a

1:18:44

space where I fell not

1:18:46

the most comfortable, uh.

1:18:53

In in that space because up

1:18:56

until that point, nobody ever

1:18:58

called me for nothing. I mean, but

1:19:00

when they get the awards, so they get to

1:19:03

this, so they get to that. But Q

1:19:05

made it a point.

1:19:06

I see that, uh,

1:19:09

and he would and he kept, no, you gotta

1:19:11

no, you gotta come out, No, you need to, you

1:19:13

know. And so I said, you know what I'm coming.

1:19:15

You know what I mean.

1:19:18

Never gave me no Grammy though now

1:19:21

I mind didn't show up. So uh,

1:19:24

if you're listening, I tell

1:19:26

what's the ladies? And I got some woman's name. I

1:19:28

said, thanks the lady sent

1:19:31

to an email or.

1:19:33

You know, decide to give me a Grammy this year?

1:19:35

Show up just in case I forgot

1:19:37

my actress. But

1:19:41

when when I saw what's the

1:19:43

ballplayer? Uh uh

1:19:47

for Boston.

1:19:49

Not tayle them the other guy Jaylen

1:19:51

Brown? When when Jaylen Brown showed

1:19:54

up for Q at.

1:19:55

That or the Walker thirty three

1:19:58

thing or the Big three or Big three.

1:19:59

Thirt I says the

1:20:01

que that was a light

1:20:03

he gave you in front of the whole

1:20:06

world when you called me about

1:20:08

that Grammy thing, that was a light you

1:20:10

were giving me in front of the whole

1:20:12

world. So I had to come and

1:20:14

accept that gift from you just on GP

1:20:18

because when you when you when

1:20:21

you inducted into the Rock and Rock and Roll

1:20:23

Hall of Fame, you said, doctor

1:20:27

is my guy, and he should be here.

1:20:28

I wish he was here.

1:20:29

He helped write all the records.

1:20:31

So you was giving a precursor then that

1:20:34

next time we do this, I'm gonna call my God. And

1:20:37

he was true to that, and so I had to

1:20:39

be a real woman stand up there with you.

1:20:46

But but there's

1:20:48

something about you that

1:20:52

makes everyone want to give you your props

1:20:54

like that. It's not just Cube, it's not just Dre,

1:20:57

it's not just Snoop, it's not just them. It's

1:20:59

something about you, like the

1:21:01

industry wants to give

1:21:04

you your flowers.

1:21:05

Yeah, bro, it's the door guys.

1:21:08

Want to get you.

1:21:13

You you saw, you saw. Can

1:21:15

you give me a reason why that?

1:21:18

You know what I mean? Can

1:21:20

you give me a reason? I can't give you a

1:21:22

reason. But the reason I look at it like

1:21:25

this, there's

1:21:28

a it's a

1:21:30

g O D thing. And so this

1:21:33

path that I walked, and

1:21:36

I told my I told my.

1:21:39

My mother when I was coming, we're

1:21:42

taking drink chemps to church because

1:21:44

it's the g O.

1:21:45

D thing And they need to know that. That's

1:21:47

why the g O D thing is a d O C thing.

1:21:50

That's right, goddamn it. So when

1:21:52

they say why oh, why

1:21:55

didn't it happen like this? Or why did it happen

1:21:57

like this? Because it's a g O D thing.

1:22:00

He needs he need folks to know this

1:22:03

is not happening because of this person, happening

1:22:05

because of that person, or not happening

1:22:08

because of this person that is a geod.

1:22:10

Thing, or when it's his time, watch

1:22:12

what he do. You know what I mean?

1:22:14

And so and so even us having

1:22:17

this opportunity to sit down and talk,

1:22:20

it's a part of that plan, bro, you

1:22:22

know what I mean. We've been talking for two years. I most

1:22:25

when you're gonna come, I say, I don't have no nothing

1:22:27

to talk about. But when the Grammy thing happened,

1:22:29

I said, well, now now I feel like I got something.

1:22:32

Well let me tell me. Just tell you something. This

1:22:34

is your house. You don't need nothing

1:22:37

to talk about. If you want to come over here and talk about

1:22:39

pink toe. Now, he's

1:22:41

not gonna talk about that because he's not opening that door.

1:22:44

But we

1:22:47

don't care, because you know what, we

1:22:49

created this platform for you. We created

1:22:51

this platform for us, for people. You

1:22:54

know, there's no other genre

1:22:56

in this game that has this word washed

1:22:58

up like people say you did

1:23:01

ten years in this game and they want to throw us away.

1:23:04

They don't do that in they don't do that

1:23:06

in jazz. I'm not gonna allow them to do that in

1:23:08

hip hops, right, I'm not. I just can't.

1:23:11

They say that wine gets better with time.

1:23:13

How the fuck we ag't?

1:23:15

What?

1:23:15

What the fuck is we doing? I'm not lying

1:23:17

that on my This

1:23:24

show is created for that,

1:23:26

and we're gonna continue to do it. And guess

1:23:28

what, we're great at it, motherfucker.

1:23:30

That's right.

1:23:30

We're great at it's great at giving people

1:23:32

flowers who deserve it. That's because the

1:23:35

more, the more they say, the black and the barrier

1:23:37

sweet of the youths. Motherfucker's right. That means

1:23:40

when we go with time, we get better with

1:23:42

time. We don't get worse with time. Only people who

1:23:44

get worse with time and stupid people. And I don't think we're

1:23:46

stupid at all at all, bro at all. We're

1:23:48

out here doing this and again,

1:23:50

let me get back to the documentary, because it

1:23:53

shows how much you

1:23:57

mean to the community, how much you mean to

1:23:59

hip hop, how much you mean to humanity,

1:24:03

and how you brong at three sixty.

1:24:06

I believe it's a pastor. What's the black

1:24:08

brother's name that you got with in

1:24:10

the documentary.

1:24:11

Reverend Johnson.

1:24:12

Reverend Johnson. Okay, okay, he's

1:24:14

Martin Luther King. Guy, he's the new

1:24:16

Martin Luther King. Oh yeah, well we need to talk about

1:24:18

him.

1:24:19

He was in he was with him, Yeah,

1:24:21

yeah, he was in college when King

1:24:24

started his non violent movement.

1:24:26

Wow.

1:24:27

He worked.

1:24:29

Really closely with He's the

1:24:31

same age as sharpening

1:24:37

those guys, you know. And they

1:24:41

sent him to Dallas in

1:24:43

sixty eight. Wow,

1:24:45

Reverend Johnson.

1:24:46

Wow. Two another one. Jamie cleared

1:24:50

away for doctor King to come

1:24:53

through because the city didn't

1:24:55

want King.

1:24:56

There both

1:24:59

sides, you know what I'm saying, Democrat

1:25:01

and no.

1:25:02

I mean I mean the white folks and

1:25:05

the black fo's right, that's right,

1:25:07

didn't want doctor kimps, right, the black.

1:25:09

Preachers during that time. Okay, what's

1:25:11

on doctor Reben

1:25:13

Johnson's head about? Because

1:25:16

they didn't want it, you know what I mean? Because he doctor

1:25:19

King would be messing up their money.

1:25:20

Wow.

1:25:21

Know how the game goes, bro it's nothing. It

1:25:23

was probably nothing different

1:25:26

than.

1:25:26

Doctor that's just too. That's

1:25:28

what I heard. You had to that

1:25:31

he was going to dress her. He was outside.

1:25:34

Telling about doctor Camp he

1:25:37

was for that. I mean, I don't mean that's

1:25:40

that's what they used. It help pro against them. They

1:25:42

try to use that against them, but that he

1:25:45

was having an affair, that's what they tried to use.

1:25:47

The follow up. They finally.

1:25:50

G Bro the wrong

1:25:55

man, respect the kid Bro still.

1:25:58

Follows out the can.

1:25:59

That's a weak argument, That's what I'm saying.

1:26:01

I try to get you to not like a brother,

1:26:04

you know what I mean, Like, because he had.

1:26:08

Suicide, they try to get him the commit suicide

1:26:10

and going to King. Yeah, that f b I. They

1:26:13

tried to use that against them. They they spied on him.

1:26:15

They found out that he was having an affair, and they tried to get him

1:26:17

the commissions.

1:26:18

He got a little trim while he was getting a tram.

1:26:20

I'm still don't go off of

1:26:22

my research research, but that

1:26:25

what I seen Peter Peter

1:26:27

Johnson came down.

1:26:28

Peter Johnson. That's that's the.

1:26:30

Lader ground work for doctor King. And

1:26:32

they killed him that year, you know, I mean

1:26:34

that was the year he died.

1:26:35

Oh doctor King, I'm thinking it was Jane Peter Johnson. I'm

1:26:37

like, I've just seen him in the document.

1:26:39

So he dies.

1:26:42

And Reverend Johnson stays,

1:26:45

uh for a while or not, and then they asked

1:26:48

him to come back. But there had been a particular

1:26:51

police story going on back then

1:26:54

about this particular policeman who was

1:26:57

executing black and brown

1:26:59

kids.

1:27:00

Wow in Dallas.

1:27:01

Yeah, okay, I think

1:27:03

uh uh

1:27:06

he w.

1:27:07

One of the stories is it was

1:27:09

a little uh the

1:27:12

the Latin kid's name was Santos, I think,

1:27:15

and he had the kid handcuffed in his car and

1:27:19

he was playing Russian Roulette with his

1:27:21

pistol, trying to get the kid to to

1:27:23

confess to something and and

1:27:25

and blew his head off, you know. And

1:27:28

Reverend Johnson stopped the yard. He had all

1:27:30

the you know, did all the things that they did

1:27:32

back then, get the police off the street.

1:27:34

Wow, And uh, he said, what

1:27:37

the story he tells me is he

1:27:39

went in stomping it and uh and the

1:27:41

powers that be told him that they

1:27:43

would get him off the street, but they couldn't

1:27:46

prosecute him from killing a a

1:27:48

a nigga, you know, right,

1:27:50

And so they took him off the street. And

1:27:54

then uh, the folks in Atlanta called

1:27:56

uh Reverend Johnson back to Atlanta.

1:27:59

And when.

1:28:02

Reverend Johnson went back to Atlanta. They gave to

1:28:04

dude his gun and put him back on the street. He

1:28:07

went right back I there and kept another baby. And

1:28:09

when he did that, Peter Johnson came back to Dynason.

1:28:12

He was there ever since. Matter

1:28:14

of fact, with the year I was born, Peter

1:28:17

Johnson was walking around in the projects I.

1:28:19

Was born in, feeding people. Yeah,

1:28:22

man, And so I wanted for him.

1:28:25

I wanted that light to be on him in

1:28:28

this documentary way, yeah,

1:28:30

bro, because he deserved it.

1:28:32

Like he's the most humble

1:28:34

man.

1:28:34

I knows, unassuming.

1:28:36

Person, doesn't care about money.

1:28:38

Still to this day, he's out there struggling

1:28:41

trying to help other folks, right, and so

1:28:43

I'm trying to, you know, do what I can to help

1:28:45

him now.

1:28:46

And he said, he linked with you, He said, because people

1:28:48

want your autograph, not his, when

1:28:51

they should want his.

1:28:53

You know what, man, because without

1:28:55

them, he paid the way for

1:28:57

all of these boys that can get out didn't

1:29:00

get that money like that. They wouldn't

1:29:02

have been able to do it without this guy. M I

1:29:04

forget what the quote is. They

1:29:07

said, Uh, this kind of father

1:29:10

makes this kind of child, that makes

1:29:12

this kind of child, that makes this kind of child

1:29:14

when it goes so in a circle like,

1:29:16

uh, we back on the the

1:29:19

Malcolm's and the Martins. We need them niggas

1:29:21

to show up right about now, you

1:29:24

know. And they gonna come from the street. See

1:29:28

that's how everything comes from the street. Bro the

1:29:31

wind and the loss us from the

1:29:33

street. When I talk to these young

1:29:37

boys, I used the uh,

1:29:40

the story of Samson.

1:29:41

And the Bible to

1:29:43

try it.

1:29:44

Yeah, and you relate that to your voice.

1:29:47

No, I'm I'm relating that story

1:29:49

to them because if you know the

1:29:51

story in the book, Samson

1:29:54

didn't do but two things they

1:29:57

didn't preach to nobody ain't

1:29:59

getting them getting them by the word.

1:30:01

He did two things, Uh

1:30:04

mess with women and whoop a whole

1:30:06

lot of ass.

1:30:08

That's it.

1:30:09

And that's not a whole lot different from what these

1:30:11

boys is doing. The only difference

1:30:13

is he understood whose,

1:30:16

I guess is the best way whose he

1:30:19

was that there's a purpose why

1:30:21

he was doing it. He wasn't just doing it

1:30:23

to be So I tell these young boys that if

1:30:25

you all killer, that's that's great. Let's

1:30:27

figure out that the best reason why you're

1:30:30

gonna do it, so you're not just doing something

1:30:32

to be doing something.

1:30:33

If you're gonna throw away, throw away your

1:30:35

life, then then be purposeful with

1:30:38

it. With purpose, you know, I mean, same

1:30:40

way these.

1:30:40

Folks put on the stars

1:30:42

and stripes and they go over here to wherever

1:30:45

they're at and and bust them folks

1:30:47

in the ass. It's the same thing,

1:30:50

but your purpose makes it seems like it's it's

1:30:53

it's it has a different meaning to it.

1:30:55

So I tell these boys in these neighborhoods

1:30:58

that as far as that what those weapon and so concern

1:31:01

you or your savior

1:31:04

or or your enemy, it's you

1:31:07

because you got the gun. These same way

1:31:09

the Black Panthers used to say that this

1:31:11

little circle is it's hours.

1:31:14

We're not letting nobody come in here and do nothing.

1:31:18

You know what I mean, whether you know whether you got blue

1:31:20

on or red on or black

1:31:22

on or circle,

1:31:25

yeah, it's not going on in here, you

1:31:27

know what I mean.

1:31:28

If you guys developed that attitude,

1:31:31

then whatever y'all do inside this circle,

1:31:34

as long as it's not harm and nobody get

1:31:36

your money.

1:31:40

That's real.

1:31:40

We still have a quick time of slom. Forgot that. I'm gonna take

1:31:42

a quick pistol slim right, that's

1:31:46

I.

1:31:46

Can take a.

1:31:56

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1:32:14

Ahead, we got the number one team

1:32:17

in the Northwest Division, the Oklahoma City

1:32:19

Thunder.

1:32:20

They will be playing the.

1:32:21

Number two team in the Atlantic Division, New

1:32:23

York Knicks in Madison Square

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Garden. I know this is a favorite fan favorite

1:32:28

is so let me get ready to it. I'll go on with

1:32:30

Knicks automatically. Automatically

1:32:34

laffers on that. So for total points New

1:32:36

York.

1:32:36

Knicks averages one eleven point nine, are

1:32:38

they going to hire or lower?

1:32:40

At home?

1:32:40

We're gonna go higher. In fact, J're gonna be there, Spike

1:32:43

Lee gonna be there eating hot dogs and corn dogs.

1:32:47

I think Rosie parad is coming out, you know what

1:32:49

I'm saying. So I think I'm

1:32:51

gonna go higher, diego hire lower

1:32:53

one eleven point nine.

1:32:56

I'm gonna go lower than

1:32:59

one eleven nine, although they will still win.

1:33:02

Okay, Now for the young guns,

1:33:04

the number one team, These guys are running the off

1:33:07

n They're led by the youngest cat shy gilge

1:33:09

is Alexander. For Oklahoma City, they average

1:33:12

one twenty point seven a game. We're gonna

1:33:14

higher lower than one to twenty point seven.

1:33:16

I'm gonna stay higher. I'm gonna say lower because

1:33:18

bright lights, big city, a lot of people, you

1:33:21

know, think you ready, but it's

1:33:23

still one of the greatest places to play on Earth.

1:33:25

It's the massive square Guarden. A lot of people can see

1:33:27

those bright lights in that big city and they kind

1:33:29

of fold. So, as a young team not

1:33:32

too much experienced, I think the Garden is gonna

1:33:34

be the winner of this game. You say they're gonna be deer and has

1:33:36

a big deal. That's a big statement. Now

1:33:39

we're going to continue in this format. So for assists,

1:33:43

gilgis Alexander. He averages

1:33:45

six point three assists with a

1:33:48

turnover average of two point two.

1:33:49

So we're doing higher lower, Efen, I'm

1:33:53

gonna say lower on

1:33:56

the assists. Lower lower is six point

1:33:58

three and are you yeah,

1:34:00

I'm going lower lower.

1:34:02

With the horrible New York Niggas defense, I

1:34:05

say, hi, second mouth,

1:34:07

I'm keeping it.

1:34:08

One hundred percent. It's about money.

1:34:10

This is not personal.

1:34:11

This is about the money.

1:34:12

Jalen Brunson, he averages six point four.

1:34:14

Says hire lower higher, Yeah,

1:34:17

I'm going higher, higher, higher,

1:34:20

Okay. Jalen Brunton is a monster, man,

1:34:23

a monster.

1:34:23

He's doing it. Need scoring Now.

1:34:25

For rebound category, we're introducing

1:34:27

a new player to this.

1:34:28

Uh.

1:34:30

I wish he was gonna

1:34:32

come back. I'm gonna drink Champs Kicks.

1:34:35

We have check home grown. He

1:34:37

averages seven point nine rebounds

1:34:39

a game. Check homegrown, home grown,

1:34:42

homegrown, home grown. He got

1:34:46

hurt in the first practice last year, so they red

1:34:48

shared him. He's back as a rookie. He's

1:34:50

about seven something guy. So

1:34:52

he averaged seven point nine rebounds. Higher or

1:34:54

lower.

1:34:55

He's a nick. No, he's an okay

1:34:57

see, he's an okay see. He's gonna go lower this, sir,

1:35:00

higher, higher, absolutely higher.

1:35:02

Now, who's gonna combat him is

1:35:04

Isaiah Hardinson.

1:35:06

He is a nick. He's eight point

1:35:08

four rebounds. Diego, what are

1:35:10

we doing? We're gonna need him to go higher for the neck winning.

1:35:12

So for the points, let's just ended with the

1:35:15

two All stars.

1:35:16

Jalen Brunson twenty seven point

1:35:18

five points throughout the season.

1:35:20

He's going higher or lower than twenty seven

1:35:22

point five. I'm gonna say he's going higher again,

1:35:24

bright light, big c. This is his time.

1:35:26

It is his time, Sonny, one

1:35:29

hundred percent higher because he's going to battle

1:35:31

the young STU. He's gonna put up at least forty

1:35:34

who my opinion, I.

1:35:36

Won't go as high as forty, but I'll say higher than thirty,

1:35:39

higher than thirty twenty

1:35:41

seven.

1:35:41

All right.

1:35:42

They might come out with the Trump sneakers on the

1:35:48

game entirely those for

1:35:52

Gildgas Alexander for ok s Oh, No, he's

1:35:55

not. I'm going low off for Gildge. Yeah, I say

1:35:57

higher, I say higher. He's a kid

1:35:59

and they let him fifty times if he wants.

1:36:02

I'm gonna okay.

1:36:03

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1:36:41

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1:36:46

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1:36:49

All right? Cool solo oh shots

1:36:56

straight out of Compton or

1:36:58

niggas for life, straight

1:37:01

out of competent Styles,

1:37:04

p or Rick Ross, Damn

1:37:13

Ross, eminem

1:37:16

or Busta Robs.

1:37:17

Uh yeah

1:37:21

you my one. Don't get you on them now.

1:37:24

Okay, all right cool Jamie, where

1:37:26

you at you? Yeah?

1:37:28

We wait on you, Jamie.

1:37:31

Were we at? Yeah?

1:37:36

Both of those guys. It is my guys.

1:37:38

Yeah, okay, so

1:37:41

we we we we owe one shot? You got your shot?

1:37:43

Oh I don't got a shot? You

1:37:45

got a shot too? Yeah, how I'm the only

1:37:47

one whatever. I mean, I'm pouring my own.

1:37:49

So okay, yeah,

1:37:52

let me take myns. Thank

1:37:56

you? Where

1:37:59

we Yeah? Now?

1:38:01

Yeah, DJ Quicker battle Cap.

1:38:04

Damn bro like hm hm

1:38:06

and fuck this ship.

1:38:10

I love I love that. We're

1:38:12

almost not done. I love that. I

1:38:17

love that DJ Battle Quick battle

1:38:20

Cap battle Quicker battle

1:38:23

quick Like. I like that. I like

1:38:25

that both. Yeah

1:38:28

yeah

1:38:31

good the next one. I want to switch

1:38:33

this one up. Okay, Lady

1:38:35

of Rage now this is Lady of Rage

1:38:38

of remy ma Rage.

1:38:40

I mean, I got it.

1:38:42

I was gonna say, just out of respect, passing

1:38:45

boss, you know, rest in peace to Boston.

1:38:47

Well boss, I was gonna say

1:38:49

boss because she just passed away.

1:38:51

And he was in Dallas. Forward love her.

1:38:53

She's from Detroit. Ell Man she was ill.

1:38:57

Somebody just sent me up a

1:39:00

screen shot.

1:39:03

A few days ago off an album that she never

1:39:05

released. Her

1:39:08

album cover was a was a duplicate of

1:39:10

my album cover.

1:39:11

Oh wow. She was definitely influenced

1:39:13

by everything y'all were doing. You could

1:39:15

see that. Uh, Carris

1:39:18

want to rock him?

1:39:19

Ah, man, come on now, and I love

1:39:22

Chris Love.

1:39:24

That means you're saying, come on, bro, he's

1:39:26

my god because because you kind of didn't

1:39:29

curse, like rock him, that's my god?

1:39:30

Bro?

1:39:31

Is that the reason why you didn't curse was to rock him?

1:39:33

Okay?

1:39:34

Bro, however good I got

1:39:36

to be, it's because I was trying

1:39:38

to be as good as rock him.

1:39:40

Was wow.

1:39:42

No, he said he picked the

1:39:44

game you should drink for making later

1:39:49

slick record Biggie her

1:39:52

Dog slick Ricord, Biggie.

1:39:55

Man.

1:39:55

That's man, y'all gotta drink on that one.

1:39:58

Cut ship because

1:40:00

I can't say nobody ever big here, but.

1:40:04

I said, oh, how much respect you have a bigger's though

1:40:06

I.

1:40:06

Can't say nobody ever slick.

1:40:08

I respect that like

1:40:10

that from my my humble

1:40:13

opinion.

1:40:13

Bro, there's

1:40:15

only two people that

1:40:19

that have ever touched the microphone to me and

1:40:23

created a street where there was no street,

1:40:26

and the first guy was well

1:40:29

shipped.

1:40:29

They was the same time.

1:40:30

It was slick Rick and rock Him. Before

1:40:33

those guys came, everything was syncopated

1:40:37

in one way. The floors

1:40:39

were all similar. Then rock

1:40:41

Him took that shit and bented around the corner

1:40:44

and and slick Rick came and did

1:40:47

some ship that only he could do

1:40:50

and then started trying to do do

1:40:52

it the way he was doing it. But but

1:40:55

man, I yeah, those those two guys are

1:40:57

my rushmore guys for me.

1:41:00

I agree, Big

1:41:02

Daddy Kane or El Cool j mm

1:41:05

hmm.

1:41:08

Yeah, Now I'm gone take it on.

1:41:12

Drinking drinking.

1:41:13

Yeah, you got to drink it because

1:41:16

I was a uh Big

1:41:19

Daddy Kane who was a great friend. And

1:41:21

I got a story about cool ja.

1:41:23

Okay, let's let's hear him both.

1:41:26

Please. Well, when

1:41:28

I was, uh, you've

1:41:31

seen this in the movie, you just didn't show up.

1:41:33

Okay.

1:41:33

When when I did the show

1:41:37

that my dad slept to the to the show

1:41:39

and.

1:41:40

He left, yeah because he was fucked up.

1:41:42

Yeah yeah, okay.

1:41:43

Caine was on that show. Oh yeah,

1:41:45

I didn't see that.

1:41:48

He came and sat with me and he's like, man,

1:41:50

I know this is a hard time for

1:41:52

you in the bast paper like he gave me

1:41:54

the ultiml who.

1:41:56

Was that that was your first show since he's losing your boy?

1:41:58

Yuh? And then that was your first I'm back on stage?

1:42:01

Okay continue And I.

1:42:02

Only did that once wow, because I realized

1:42:05

trying that ship.