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since twenty twelve, but

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it says he's been since two thousand

1:01

and three. He's a rappers,

1:03

rapper, a

1:06

man's man, a fashion

1:10

I can't I ain't gonna lie. I seen them jump

1:12

out the car just now. It's like Modi Gamo. It's

1:16

like that's Entre three thousand and ODB

1:18

Sun Together they

1:20

are.

1:21

He's a legend, he's a classic.

1:23

And he said one of the best statements I

1:25

think I've ever heard in the past ten years.

1:30

He said, these young artists won't

1:33

study the

1:35

predecessors, the people that came before them, but

1:38

they'll put on a pair of Jordan's. I

1:41

thought that was the best

1:43

way to describe.

1:44

This young generation.

1:46

So in case you don't know we're talking about, we're

1:48

talking about the one, the only, impeccable

1:51

motherfucker day.

1:55

Now.

1:55

I remember when you.

1:56

First came out, and I remember me gravitating

1:59

towards you, and I remember me feeling like.

2:02

O dB energy. Right, what's

2:04

you a fan of?

2:05

ODP?

2:06

Okay, okay, okay, So it makes sense, Yeah, definitely.

2:08

I mean when you're saying that, like, did you hit the nail on the

2:10

head?

2:12

Yeah, hell yeah, well

2:17

so so yeah, let lets let's take us to the beginning. Off,

2:20

when did you start making music when it

2:23

because on the internet would be googled

2:25

it's at twenty twelve, but then they said you was active

2:27

since two thousand and three.

2:29

So let's break it down for the people. I mean, you know,

2:31

I'm my first time ever

2:34

rapped was like kindergarten. Yeah,

2:36

my dad had took me the Fresh Fest.

2:39

We got the funk out of here Fresh.

2:41

It was like it was

2:45

yeah, it.

2:45

Was like ll COOJ run DMC, and

2:49

he said, I didn't even watch the concert. I just started mimicking

2:51

everything they was doing on stage, you know, just started

2:53

rapping. Then like maybe like you know,

2:55

I was in kindergarten, so maybe like not too long

2:57

after it was like show and tail and

3:00

I ain't had nothing to show word Tael because so

3:04

I just went up in front of the class and I wrapped and

3:06

all the kids was just like clapped. They stood up and

3:08

started clapping it. So I was like, damn, It's the only thing

3:10

I'm good at. So I just kept it going.

3:12

You know.

3:12

Now, one thing I'm gonna be honest with you. Listening

3:15

to your music, the one thing that I regret

3:18

is that I didn't know you back thinks I wanted to take an ecstasy

3:20

and hang out.

3:23

I'm sorry, did I go too far your

3:27

music?

3:27

And it's like you're talking about I'm

3:29

not gonna lie to you. It seemed like you was a

3:31

super fun guy.

3:33

Or yeah, yeah, I mean you know now obviously

3:35

I'm I'm older now, man, so I've comed

3:37

down a lot, you know, but you know, trialing

3:39

error, you know, so I have my fun.

3:42

The party is over now, party's

3:44

over now.

3:44

A different kind of party.

3:45

Yeah, So describe Detroit Detroit.

3:48

Yes, for us, I mean Detroit's.

3:51

Hard man hard. I ain't gonna

3:54

to you it was just real hard. It wasn't really too many.

3:56

You know, I grew up in the nineties,

3:58

so it wasn't really too much. It

4:00

wasn't even like no outlets or nothing like that.

4:02

Like even me for wanting to be a rapper, you

4:04

know, it wasn't like I can go downtown and get

4:07

a record deal.

4:07

It wasn't even like even with eminem being

4:09

that you're

4:13

selling crack. So

4:17

so for people who don't know, like.

4:22

Detroit at one point was the motor City, right, it

4:24

was like and then it's actual, yeah,

4:27

I mean, and then it just ends.

4:30

I remember, I think I told.

4:31

The story before, but I remember one time I was in Detroit

4:34

and I left the show and I

4:36

remember me going like back to the hotel and

4:38

like for the like the half of

4:40

a mile going back to the hotel, no lights

4:43

was out. I mean, no lights was on. It

4:45

was just pitch black. And I was just like, holy shit,

4:48

and this

4:51

is America. It's

4:53

not like back Dad or something. I don't know if

4:56

back Dad got lights or nothing. But to describe

4:58

people to Detroit.

4:59

I mean it's it's like a lot of people

5:01

you know, earlier in like the sixties and stuff, because

5:04

like a lot of my family, they came from the South,

5:06

so a lot of people was moving from the South to get those

5:08

jobs to work at the Big three you know, Chrysler

5:11

GM for her and all that.

5:12

So their stable job.

5:14

Yeah, Like my grandma took care of my

5:16

whole family just from one GM job.

5:18

You know, brought all her kids' houses,

5:20

you know, so we was all raised up through

5:22

that.

5:23

So that was almost like the goal.

5:25

You know, you live in Detroit, you just want to be able

5:27

to get into one of those factories. But then they start

5:29

taking all those jobs out, you know, and Eve,

5:31

you know, like white Light happened. Like

5:33

that's what a lot of people don't understand. Like Michigan

5:36

is great, you know, Detrait just fucked

5:38

up. And even though yeah

5:40

Flint, you know you still got like Pontiac you know,

5:43

Inkster Ipsilanti, like it's a lot of but that's

5:45

still like you know, like the most

5:47

most most people like in Michigan.

5:49

It's like a lot of nice places

5:51

still live.

5:52

You'll get a big massive for two

5:54

million, Yeah, Yeah, it's.

5:58

The weather is That's the only thing.

6:00

You know. Michigan cold is different. As

6:02

I got older, man, I can't take it no more so

6:05

where you live now? And I live in Austin, Texas.

6:07

Austin, Texas, Oh ship is hot.

6:09

Yes, this makes some noise for you.

6:12

I mean they say keep Austin weird. So a

6:15

lot of people love men. Hold on, hold, I'm not

6:17

gonna lie. It's a music times.

6:18

Yeah.

6:18

Yeah. Are you the first

6:21

black person that I know that living in Austin. I'm

6:28

flipping around.

6:30

Only two people I knew that lived in Phoenix, Arizona

6:33

was iced Ty and fucking DMX.

6:35

So you are now officially my Austin in

6:39

Arizona too, right, Arizona? That

6:41

semi the bull, but we don't claim him. You

6:45

should rights.

6:49

So let's

6:51

talk about your relationship with Kendrick Lamar. You

6:55

you guys came up together, correct, you know

6:57

sing?

6:57

Yeah?

6:58

Okay, let's break it down.

6:59

I feel like he's probably got it started

7:01

a little bit before me, like parts. I mean, you

7:03

know, coming from Detroit and coming from LA that's

7:05

two different worlds. You know, you're in Hollywood,

7:08

you know, in just the West coast

7:10

alone, you know, just having that market. It's

7:12

a big you know, it's a bigger market, you know. And

7:14

then I really don't really fit in anywhere

7:18

typical Detroit rapper, you know. Yeah,

7:22

like just with Midwest music in general. So

7:25

I just really didn't fit in anywhere. But

7:27

yeah, we always just being fans of each

7:29

other, you know. I feel like, kaya, yeah, it's like one

7:31

of the best rappers ever.

7:32

You know, where

7:37

did you pull your influences from that you think made

7:39

you different than other artists are

7:41

coming out of your area.

7:43

Me, like, my favorite rapper

7:45

ever is nice, you know, but I feel like you

7:48

always start you

7:50

always when you start rapping, you know, you always

7:52

just try to be who you like, you know, And

7:55

so it was a long time where I was just trying to rap

7:57

like him. But I started to discover like other

8:00

hip hop that wasn't being played on the radio

8:02

and stuff like that, you know. So I really got

8:04

big into like, you know, the whole like Death

8:07

Chucks and like rockets like

8:10

Underground, but like one

8:12

of my biggest influences like Disney Rascal

8:14

on the UK. So I got real heavy into

8:16

like UK grime stuff because you know, my dad was

8:19

a house DJ, so I grew up

8:21

around electronic music my whole life.

8:23

Like we didn't even party the like Top forty rap

8:25

when you went out and Detroit, we listened to like ghetto tech

8:27

and like Underground Resistance and stuff

8:29

like that. So I always grew up on like you know, ass

8:32

and titties and shit like that. That was my mixtapes,

8:34

you know. So when I heard like Disney Rascal,

8:37

it was like hearing that grime shit. It was like

8:39

electric, you know, people rapping

8:41

over like more of electronic style beats and shit. I ain't

8:43

never heard nothing like that before. So when I heard that, it was

8:45

like a light bulb went off of my head, like oh,

8:48

so I just was studying his shit and then just got

8:50

more and more than like other UK artists and shit

8:52

like The Streets and Kano and

8:55

so like. UK definitely played a big

8:57

role. Like it was even to the point where I couldn't

8:59

buy those albums in Detroit. So

9:02

I was coming out to New York and that Tower

9:04

and Times Square

9:07

they had a UK section, So I was like,

9:09

I used to catch the greyhound bus

9:11

out here. I used to be working in Queens Wow,

9:13

and I used to catch the greyhound bus and as soon as I got

9:16

off the bus, I would go raid the UK section and just

9:18

grab mad CD's and shit.

9:20

You know, that's what's unique about you is

9:23

me, And you said something that's very

9:26

similar is your favor You

9:28

sound nothing like your favorite artists.

9:31

My favorite artist is Granddaddy.

9:33

You and if you listen to me, listen

9:35

to me, you cannot understand how is

9:37

that my favorite artist, which lets me know that

9:40

you, contrary

9:42

a popular belief.

9:44

You might have belonged to the nineties.

9:46

Yeah, no, I definitely would say that. I

9:48

mean, I didn't really get no traction

9:50

like that until I was thirty, but I

9:53

would admit that in my twenties, you

9:55

know, it was more so just rapping to try

9:57

to get a record deal. I still didn't find myself

10:00

yet. It didn't start working to me until

10:02

I stopped giving the funk about what other people thought about

10:04

my music. You know, like it because because the most you know,

10:06

you play your ship for your friends and shit, like man, that

10:08

shit sucks, you know what I'm saying, So you want a big

10:10

ship that they like. But once I got you

10:12

know, because I started to realize, like man, the music

10:15

I listened to and on TV or

10:17

on the radio. So I just started to

10:19

pull my influences from that. And it's like, you

10:22

know, it's one thing to be influenced from somebody, but you

10:24

gotta remember that whole era, early

10:26

nineties, it was always about not biting,

10:30

which is what that was.

10:30

Like, one

10:34

man, you're one of the most unique

10:36

people I've ever met.

10:37

Yeah, you couldn't bite, you know what I'm saying, which which

10:39

I feel like that's what played a lot into what's

10:42

going on in hip hop now, is we

10:44

it's.

10:44

All our thoughts?

10:50

Yeah, because it was that whole era you couldn't bite, and

10:53

then it got to the point.

10:54

Where go ahead and bite everything.

10:55

You couldn't know, you couldn't be a player hater. So

10:57

then people just started being like, he ain't kind of soup,

11:00

but I ain't gonna say he ain't gonna be no hater,

11:02

you know what I'm saying. So then you couldn't be a hater. You

11:04

couldn't bite. And so now this is

11:06

where we're at now, you know. Yeah, Like

11:10

the one of the most things I hate when you get like somebody

11:13

like a lyrical rappers anybody, but I don't listen to lyrical

11:16

music.

11:16

You'd be like, what the you means?

11:18

You just don't want to hear nobody better than you. You

11:21

know, I never heard a body that was

11:23

like paying a basketball. But like, I don't like the niggas

11:25

that dun't you know. I

11:28

really little role players, man that just walks.

11:30

To it like that don't exist.

11:33

Yeah, the bitch

11:35

players.

11:35

You know, no one.

11:37

Thinks like that. Now.

11:40

Another thing that.

11:44

I relate to you is she was on an XXL

11:46

cover, right, and but you probably

11:49

don't know, and

11:51

I reiterated to you that

11:53

first cover of

11:56

artists being on the cover together.

11:59

You know who's on the very first one.

12:02

I'm assuming you're gonna say you, of course, I'm gonna say it

12:05

was on a saurce.

12:06

Oh yeah, Elliott Wilson, I

12:09

believe did it on the sauce.

12:12

Elliott Wilson left the source went

12:14

to XXL and he started the Freshman Class.

12:16

So I was on the cover when it wasn't even called

12:18

the Freshman So. But

12:21

but looking at these people on the cover, can we reading people the

12:23

names that was on the cover.

12:25

I know, Iggy is there future?

12:27

Future? Wow? Machine Gun?

12:30

Kelly, Well you're not looking

12:32

you got on your head, all right?

12:33

Come on, you ain't that good? Who?

12:36

Machine Gun?

12:36

Kelly's on there? Yeah?

12:38

Iggy axel ya who?

12:39

I like?

12:39

I think's hard? Go ahead kid

12:42

ink? Who

12:46

else?

12:50

Joe?

12:51

How how does it feel?

12:52

Well?

12:53

That was a great time, but hear was that

12:55

that was twenty twelve.

12:58

I mean, it's cool to get a knowledge for something like

13:00

that, you know, right, So it's just you know, everybody

13:02

want to get their props, you know.

13:04

What, would y'all there together? Yeah?

13:06

Yeah, we did to shoot together and stuff, freestyle

13:08

and all that.

13:09

Yeah.

13:10

Yeah, but you know it, it still

13:12

was like I still just like I just don't fit in

13:14

with it. Yeah.

13:17

I just felt just you know, I don't know.

13:20

It was high, yeah,

13:23

but that's not what he mean.

13:25

But I just I don't know. I just didn't really.

13:28

But I was happy to get it, you

13:30

know, but I was just like, man, you know, I couldn't

13:32

believe it. It was like, dang, I don't know.

13:33

You know, is that your

13:36

way of fitting in is not feeling like

13:38

you fit in?

13:41

I guess.

13:42

I mean, I don't know. I just never really

13:45

I always just feel.

13:46

Like I'm too old for the young niggas

13:48

and too young for the old niggas. You know,

13:50

I'm too black for the white niggas, too white for the black

13:52

niggas. You know what I'm saying. It's like, so

13:55

I just never really.

13:57

I'm gonna be honest.

13:58

It makes a lot of sense, be honest

14:00

with you.

14:02

For the same word.

14:05

I always say, I'm too Puertoweecan for the Puerto

14:07

Ricans and I'm too black for the black because I'm

14:09

half black and half put a week. But is

14:12

that the fense mechanism?

14:13

I mean, yeah, you gotta you gotta have believe.

14:16

But I always still I always looked

14:18

at it like shit, these niggas can't fuck me on this rap ship.

14:20

So I always had that confidence aboutself, like

14:22

I still could rap better than now.

14:24

I really give a you.

14:26

Now, I want to get to what I said in

14:28

the intro. I

14:31

thought when I heard you say that on the Internet, when you

14:33

said I don't understand how these

14:36

young guys will go buy Jordan's

14:39

if they won't go Yeah.

14:40

Because my whole ship was because they always be like, you know,

14:42

just if it's newer, it's better. You

14:45

just don't get it kind of ship, you know.

14:47

But it's like your niggas ain't wearing Lebron's you

14:49

know what I'm saying that Steph

14:52

Curry under

14:55

arm, you know,

14:59

switch your ship up efforts. At

15:01

the end of the day, I still, you know,

15:03

I don't want to know the negative

15:06

to be taken out of that, you know. I just really

15:08

wish that they would, you know. But it's

15:11

all our fault too though. Young

15:14

niggas feel like niggas is hating on them, and

15:17

it's like, you know, but they get to get

15:19

old too.

15:19

So once they get.

15:22

That's what stupid age, you know what to

15:25

get old. I'm

15:29

going I'm gonna take claim to this one. No

15:33

older person ever reached out to me when

15:35

I was in the game, so I didn't feel obligated

15:37

to reach out.

15:38

To any young person. And by the way,

15:40

that is my fault.

15:41

I was supposed to be better than the people who came

15:44

before me, So I definitely gotta

15:46

take because I remember

15:48

me, and I'm gonna be out front about

15:50

it.

15:51

I remember me being like them old niggas.

15:54

I haven't been.

15:55

Saying like that, so then

15:57

I became the old nigga.

15:58

I was say, oh shit, I didn't even know.

15:59

That I came in. I ain't really

16:01

come in until I was thirty, so I came in with

16:03

a chip on my shoulder anyway, Like shy, your niggas

16:06

been in front on me. I'm like, you know what I'm saying.

16:08

So I had to chip on my shoulder anyway. But I

16:10

really do, like, I mean a lot of the ship that your niggas

16:12

is doing.

16:13

It's cool you listening to it. I

16:15

listened to like a lot of hyper pop.

16:17

Now I don't really listen to I

16:19

don't know what that is, like a hundred gigs and like

16:21

Frost Children.

16:23

Like I know what you Yeah,

16:25

I don't know what.

16:25

I don't know. I think ever since I've been like got

16:27

like sober and ship, I just can't really listen to

16:29

like a nigga talking about fucking my bitch and how

16:32

much more money you got just that

16:34

ship. I ain't gonna shoot me. I ain't. I'm

16:36

like, I ain't got time of this ship doubles

16:38

a lot of ship. But now I was just like I

16:40

can't really hear that ship no more.

16:42

You heard your new album, Kanye, Yeah.

16:44

Yeah, check it out my homie j Pig on there so yeah,

16:47

yeah, but I can't say a lot of mainstream stuff

16:49

like that. Really, you know, take off

16:51

my fancy, Okay, I'll

16:53

be honest.

16:55

And we noticed you got jeans on

16:57

your your jacket.

16:59

Yeah, I mean that's a gene.

17:01

That's a real jump jacket.

17:02

I'm a jean jacket.

17:03

God said,

17:06

we're gonna make a real jacket. Pull us

17:08

on.

17:08

What is that? It's actually my homie

17:10

done by Doug. He does like custom pieces

17:13

for me and stuff.

17:14

So definitely that's the

17:16

most unique ship I've ever saw.

17:17

I mean you actually unsnapped this and zip

17:19

these up and make pins out of it if you want.

17:22

Oh ship, So what's his name?

17:24

Done by Doug?

17:25

He's in.

17:31

Here?

17:31

What that's sewing machine?

17:32

Man?

17:33

That's machine?

17:34

So what? What?

17:35

What?

17:35

What made you want to get sober?

17:37

Like?

17:37

Oh, I was just taking it out. I was just

17:39

sucking up. I mean after a while, you know, you're doing

17:42

this ship for so long. You know a lot

17:44

of people don't really realize

17:46

the root of it. You know, you start getting sucked up.

17:48

And it started out for fun. You're

17:50

just having fun with it. But then you find yourself

17:52

sucking doing blow, getting drunk drinking the.

17:54

Fifth day by yourself, and you're like.

17:56

Why am I really doing this? You know.

18:00

Blow part? So

18:04

how do you have. And by

18:06

the way, I admire you, you know what I mean.

18:09

Congratulations on this gratulations.

18:11

I mean, it's almost been a year, so I'm still

18:13

a baby in it. But you know, so I'm not being too

18:15

overconfident. I just

18:18

still take it day by day.

18:19

Because it's to each his own. But I

18:22

want to ask you, like, but because for people

18:24

who probably need what you

18:26

went through, how do you still have

18:28

fun?

18:30

I don't. I don't.

18:34

Like I mean, but I'm forty two years old.

18:36

The fund got to be done and you're gonna die, you

18:38

know what I'm saying. Like my fun was deadly,

18:41

you get what I So, I

18:43

was like, you know, I was like a living sky

18:45

diver. You know what I'm saying. You can't keep jumping

18:47

out the plane every day, you know, real

18:50

you got to do it every blue moon and be like, oh

18:53

I live in I get while I'm living you know

18:56

Columbia.

18:56

No, That's

19:00

what I'm saying.

19:00

It might be different if all something there right now, But

19:03

you beending on packs, motherfucker

19:07

rapping with that ship down, you know. But

19:09

he was getting.

19:15

I feel like Drake Shafts. We just got to go to Columbia, just

19:17

one trip.

19:18

And just get it out of I

19:20

already went and I got out of my sister.

19:23

Let's go get let's go. What's

19:27

your favorite place that you've ever been to?

19:28

My favorite place I ever been to, or just

19:31

in general in general? Yeah, I mean, I

19:33

mean just being a fan of it. London,

19:35

you know, Yeah, how was that?

19:37

A friend of the music? No, just London, shortitch,

19:40

you know.

19:41

I mean, it's just just being such a fan

19:43

of the music, you know, and seeing,

19:46

you know, what what makes some tick and just that whole

19:48

you know. So I just like being But

19:50

I like going places that I'm really like.

19:53

I used to take like I

19:55

call them like rapper vacations, you know, like

19:57

any any style of music that I was really

20:00

too. I would just go out into the city and just try

20:02

to see what makes them come up with that ship

20:05

almost like you know, like a backpacking adventure.

20:07

Just go around, Like I went to like Houston and just

20:09

chilled out there for a minute because I was just super

20:11

into their ship.

20:12

So you get a tril Burger. No, that was way

20:14

before a Trilburgers, you know.

20:16

But just I hung out with Paul Wall

20:18

you know, Okay, and just yeah,

20:21

So I like taking little trips like that somewhere like

20:23

New Orleans, you know, see the jazz scene

20:25

and shit like that, you know, or even Nashville

20:27

and just go fuck with some country shit, you know, because

20:30

I take influences from every genre

20:32

of music and I just mix it into my ship.

20:35

I love that.

20:35

I love that I can't just

20:38

certain music.

20:38

I can't fuck with you like what I

20:40

ain't gonna say it, Oh okay, I mean

20:44

I feel like I feel like there's a lot of ship

20:46

that I couldn't get into when.

20:48

I was a kid.

20:48

But it's all about your ears

20:50

maturing, Like even something like country music.

20:53

You're like, man, I don't.

20:53

Get this ship. But like I been in Texas, you know.

20:56

It feels like everything has hip hopping in now, like every

20:59

genre has a hip.

21:00

I'll be liking that old foundational ship

21:02

though. I like doing my homework like that. But even

21:04

now, I find a beauty and country now just

21:07

you know, when I was drinking, you know, getting drunk

21:09

and getting in the uber coming back, they playing some countries,

21:11

She's like, oh, this nigga really talking some gangster ship.

21:13

Country music. Country musicry music

21:16

is gainst the music on the floor. Yeah, they be

21:18

getting depressed and ship too, and everybody cheats.

21:20

The girl cheats in countries. Everybody

21:22

girl cheating country.

21:23

And they always getting drunk on the song, so they be getting

21:26

fucked up.

21:26

They talking about guns and they

21:29

drinking hard.

21:29

Ship.

21:30

Yeah, what

21:34

you like more performing or

21:36

making the record?

21:37

I like making the record more. I'm more of a writer

21:39

than I am anything. The writing aspect

21:41

is what I'm in. That's why these motherfuckers be talking about

21:43

Like, Man, I don't be writing like motherfucker because you can't read.

21:46

Yea.

21:48

Yeah, niggas they've been in school, these niggas.

21:50

There's a lot of dumb rappers up. You

21:53

know.

21:53

These niggas don't write because they can't read. So but

21:57

I like the writing part, man, because like

21:59

there's nothing better than you know, you write a song and

22:01

you record that shit and you just keep playing it back.

22:03

You're like, well, I'm about to kill these niggas and this shit

22:05

and you just get that vibe and then so you know it, just see

22:07

the end, Yeah, you see the end result

22:09

when you're on stage and you like, I knew I was right

22:12

this shit fire, you know. So I like that part

22:14

more than anything. It's like knowing,

22:16

like trusting your instinct like, man, I know I

22:18

got some shit.

22:19

You know what I'm saying is it haven't

22:21

been a time that you were wrong on the record

22:24

all the.

22:24

Time over

22:26

time, because I got a way more mature

22:28

than a mature here than an average listener.

22:31

So the ship that I can make and be like, oh this shit

22:33

crazy, you know what I'm saying. But the thing,

22:36

the good thing about that is that I make sure

22:38

that I feel like it stands the test of time.

22:40

You know, So shit could be like ten years

22:42

later you hear that ship and you're like, oh, this shits still

22:44

kind of crazy now, you know. So it's

22:47

all about just not trying to make something just so trendy

22:49

and just getting caught up and just making my own shit.

22:52

You know.

22:52

That's why I don't really feel like none of my music really

22:54

your age like that.

22:55

You know.

22:56

Let's talk about you got your own show, yeah,

22:59

so Downy Brown.

23:00

Yeah, the Danny Brown Show. What made

23:02

you do that? I was just friends

23:05

with Time.

23:06

Sigura and he sounds rich.

23:08

Yeah, he definitely is rich. But are

23:10

you guys doing together? No, I'm on his network.

23:13

Oh dope.

23:14

So I did his podcast and then he just was

23:16

he always used to. We used to talk on the phone and stuff. He's

23:18

always to telling me like, man, you need to do you own podcasts.

23:20

Man is crazy.

23:21

And I was like, man, you know, anybody

23:24

can just set a camera up in a fucking room and

23:26

started talking ship on the podcast.

23:29

But I was like, I like the way they work, and you

23:31

know, they got a high production value and shit. So

23:33

I was like, if if I's a guy

23:35

from Fool's Gold, no that's a track.

23:39

Comedian. Yeah that's how you got

23:42

through him? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

23:43

So I was just like, you know, I do it if I do it with

23:45

y'all, you know. And then you know,

23:47

I was dating a girl in Austin, so I was going

23:49

out there a lot seeing her, and then he told

23:52

me he was moving to Austin.

23:53

So I was like, fuck it, I'm moving to Austin too. How

23:55

did you guys connect? And we put it together.

23:57

I had just being a fan of his show, so

24:00

you know, he reached out to me, had me on his show, and I did

24:02

good on there. He was like, man, you funny man, you should do

24:04

this ship. And then you know, they always tell

24:06

me I need to be doing comedy and ship.

24:07

But you know, I'm still comedians

24:10

to be doing music, Yeah, but we

24:13

can't. I don't like sucking that ship.

24:15

You know how many comedians and music where you get Jamie

24:17

Fox bro got one.

24:19

That's that's enough.

24:20

I mean that party all the time, all

24:23

the time.

24:23

That's enough.

24:25

But you know, comedy, man, you're gonna have to bond for

24:27

like ten years. Man, I boyd ten

24:29

years in rap. I ain't trying to go through that turmoil

24:31

again.

24:33

But but y'all doing great, Yeah,

24:36

doing great. I ain't gonna lie.

24:38

I mean, but he just talked funny

24:40

anyway, like he's just say.

24:42

Nobody donand because you know, he used so much

24:44

big words.

24:45

Yeah, be funny.

24:47

You don't want to stand the word he just used.

24:49

That was hard. So, I mean,

24:51

but the thing is about comedy. Ain't no ageism

24:53

in that. So I decided to do it when I'm fifty,

24:56

you know that'd be one thing.

24:57

But you're right now, you're gonna try and do

24:59

this, Yeah, definitely. I mean, I feel like you gotta.

25:02

When I got like these top tier motherfuckers

25:04

keep coming to me like, man, you funny as fuck. You need to

25:06

do comedy to do comedy, you know, so you can't

25:08

keep having motherfuckers that do that ship

25:11

tell you you need to be doing that ship.

25:12

Just not take their advice.

25:14

You know.

25:14

I was at Dave Chappelle yesterday and

25:17

I was telling him how happy I was that comedy

25:19

is in a turmoil right now. It was like because

25:22

I was like, I just want to pool to the

25:24

world that not only rappers beef.

25:27

I was like, I liked it.

25:28

You can know the fuckers always be beefing.

25:30

Though it was behind

25:32

the scene, Yah, yeah, you be a green room.

25:34

I was so loud laughing. It was

25:36

like, yo, what's wrong with you? In fact, Joe, I

25:38

was like, I like the comedians on beefing

25:41

fuck that y'all goals guard each other.

25:43

And David was laughing at me, but I

25:46

like that.

25:46

Yeah, it's always competition with them. You

25:49

be in the green rooms, man, the motherfucker's

25:51

always talking about each other.

25:52

So this ain't nothing new.

25:53

So if you was the host a

25:56

comedy show, where would you hold it at?

25:58

If I was the host of Comedy Team, I mean to do

26:00

your.

26:01

Own cop your first stand, and where would you want to do it that?

26:03

I mean obviously Austin, because that's where it's cracking.

26:05

At You know, they obviously having like a Detroit.

26:07

I thought you would have said Detroit.

26:08

Detroit's a different type of comedy, you know, because

26:11

I mean they're gonna heckle you and ship man niggas

26:13

don't know how to act.

26:14

You know, In Austin, they gonna

26:16

have a little respect.

26:17

You know, they know you're just trying to work it out.

26:20

You're trying to work it out, you.

26:21

Know, Austin, Austin out

26:25

there, you know, so I ain't

26:27

got time for that.

26:29

I ain't gonna like it.

26:30

You up everything

26:34

he just said, got another trick there. Holy

26:37

Austin is having like a comedy renaissance right

26:39

now. You know, everybody's moving there to do comedy. You

26:42

go out every night, you're seeing crazy ship.

26:44

You know, every time I went to Austin, my sneakers

26:46

came back. You never want you never want to go to South

26:48

Myselfwest.

26:50

It's not don't want to because my sneakers.

26:52

They always step on my sneakers.

26:54

I actually wore some dead stock phone posits

26:56

one time and the soul came off because it was so hot.

27:00

It was like, fuck, that's why you can't be wearing these nineteen

27:03

ninety eight sneakers.

27:04

You know what I'm saying, it's the best year of my life ninety ninety

27:06

eight.

27:07

Oh yeah, my favorite, yeah of my life nineteen

27:09

ninety eight. Okay, moving

27:11

on, let me get some give me flowers,

27:14

man, Oh yes, I'll show.

27:15

It's about giving people they flowers while

27:17

they can smell them, they thought where they can

27:19

think them, and they drinks when they can drink them.

27:21

So we wanted to give you face to face man.

27:23

Man. Man Snoop

27:29

Dogg.

27:29

Said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his own

27:31

people. You rolled this ship out of this This

27:34

is a good blunt.

27:35

But no motherfuckers need to give you your

27:37

flowers. Brother,

27:40

I'm gonna tell you how, man, you changed a lot

27:43

of shit man when you first came around, because you

27:45

you changed the.

27:45

Whole perception of what the New York graphic could be.

27:47

Everybody thought, even though I hate that term

27:49

lyrical miracle ship, yep, but you came

27:52

in with a whole different perspective. I feel like these you

27:54

was the first nigga with the ad libs and shit. You

27:56

know what I'm saying, Like you see a lot of.

28:00

Come behind me. That's

28:02

a fact. And guess what I brung Pharrell.

28:04

I brung on all of your godfathers,

28:07

because Farrell has a whole generation of people

28:10

and I'm very proud of even though I

28:12

don't. I don't and I brong Swiss

28:14

to be too scot Stores. But I don't exactly

28:17

love the cowboy gear the

28:20

Cowboys ship.

28:21

I mean me be personally. I was in Texas and

28:23

everything you in Austin, I

28:26

was wearing the Cowboys ship Cowboy,

28:28

but then the cartail Nigga started pulling up on who

28:31

you work with? I'm like, oh, ship, this ship dangerous?

28:33

Like yeah, it's like man,

28:39

I was like, I had to stop doing this.

28:41

That's crazy.

28:42

Yeah, yeah, holy

28:45

movie.

28:46

I didn't know you up, Like, why does

28:48

Nigga wearing this cowboy sit everywhere?

28:50

Man?

28:50

Who you work with? I'm like, ship, Nigga, I just thought

28:52

it looked cool.

28:53

Yo, Hippop.

29:00

I know it sounds like a cliche question, but

29:03

I want to ask, do you ever think hip hop would

29:05

be as big as it is?

29:07

She said you forty two? You have to you're around?

29:10

Yeah, I mean is

29:12

it?

29:12

Do? Like?

29:13

I feel like we take it's like a one

29:16

step forward, two steps back kind of thing, you.

29:18

Know, no, financially

29:20

it's huge, but could

29:23

it be could it be better?

29:24

But they always putting the money in the wrong pockets,

29:26

you know, because.

29:27

You know what, you know what, I even look

29:29

at afro beats and reggae's on,

29:32

I all look at it as versions.

29:34

Of hip hop.

29:34

Yeah, I mean far as the influence then,

29:36

yeah, I mean, but niggas is always cool,

29:38

you know, so they always gonna bite the ship.

29:40

I mean, you know, but I don't know,

29:42

man, I think.

29:45

I just wish it was more emphasis

29:47

on creativity than anything

29:50

else, you know, like because right now it's just like

29:52

copy and paste.

29:53

You know.

29:54

You see some shit work, like all right, I'm doing

29:56

that ship too, didn't work, And then niggas

29:58

don't even you know, he needs.

30:00

To be more gatekeeping around his motherfucker.

30:02

When when you have the regions losing their sound, that's

30:04

a problem.

30:05

Yeah, everybody looked the same, everybody talks,

30:08

you know what.

30:08

You could hear the same sound here and go to

30:11

Asia in here and hear the same sound.

30:12

You know.

30:13

I gotta, I gotta, I gotta agree with you. In totality,

30:16

there was an area in New York where New York was trying

30:18

to sound like the South, and I could not stand it.

30:21

I could not stand I just I even

30:23

did it. I mean, but you said I got a call.

30:25

I'm so disappointed in myself.

30:27

It's still certain places that stick to their guns,

30:29

like you go to like Louisiana or like Memphis.

30:32

You know, they still gonna do they ship, you know, but

30:37

large sale. To be honest, that's just the Internet

30:39

though. The Internet just made the world smaller,

30:41

you know, and.

30:43

It brought a lot of people who probably wouldn't have been artists into

30:45

the fold.

30:45

Yeah. Yeah, a lot of motherfuckers don't even know why

30:47

they rap. They just like fuck

30:50

it, man, this shit cool, I'm.

30:51

Gonna do this.

30:51

It's like I just like everybody's an influencer

30:53

now that everybody was a rapper at one point, and that's

30:56

the same things because continues that cycle.

30:58

Yeah, I remember being a rapper

31:00

was cool. Now being

31:03

a rapper is like so yeah,

31:05

Like I remember I could get pulled over and say I'm a rapper.

31:07

I'm almost embarrassed to say it.

31:09

Yeah drunk,

31:14

Yeah, like I don't want

31:16

to say I'm a rapper. Like, pull you over if

31:18

you say drugs, because all of the thing, like if

31:20

you got to tell somebody you're a rapper? Are you really

31:22

a rapper?

31:26

Yeah?

31:27

Like so you know, it's just

31:29

like one of those things.

31:30

But to be honest, I still I do like the

31:32

fact because as a person that took me so long

31:34

to get into it, you know how

31:36

easy and not saying it's easy, but you

31:39

know, you can make some ship and the

31:41

people fun with it. You own,

31:44

you know, so you ain't got to go through

31:46

all these pipelines and ship like that how

31:48

it used to be before, you know.

31:50

So I do like that part of it, you know, I

31:54

tell you, I tell you I

31:57

come from the error where I'm

32:00

forty six. I

32:03

come from the era where you couldn't get to London

32:05

unless you brung London your record.

32:08

There was no email, there was

32:10

no like, you couldn't break into it.

32:13

In order to break into a country,

32:15

a city, a town, you had to actually physically

32:18

be there. So nowadays you could just you

32:20

could just literally press one button and that shit would

32:22

be in London, that would be in Japan, that should have been duce

32:25

off Germany.

32:28

What do you think about that?

32:30

I mean, I love that in some sense because,

32:32

like me, a person that wanted

32:34

to do a particular style and

32:37

you know, had this idea in my head and I was

32:39

able to work with like a London producer

32:41

shots out to Paul Waite. I worked with him for like ten

32:44

years where I even met him. Wow, you

32:46

know you worked with him before you met Yeah,

32:48

just emails, Oh, just send me a

32:50

pack of beats and we did. Like you know, he

32:53

on every album I've made since I've been

32:55

around, you know, So just being able

32:58

to connect with somebody that I still I felt

33:00

like we had that same ear with music,

33:02

you know, more so than me just having to work

33:04

with a motherfucker that's around the corner from me that

33:07

you know, couldn't even understand the type of shit that I'm

33:09

into, you know. So for that part,

33:11

yeah, definitely helped make my music better.

33:13

But that's different from what you're saying, because the

33:16

network is dope that you can network with anybody around

33:18

the world that's beautiful and create those connections and

33:20

relationships you're saying about selling

33:22

the record at the same time that one record

33:24

that's being pressed and is going across the world,

33:26

there's a million records at the same time going across the

33:28

world. It's different from building relationships

33:30

to just trying to get it out to people. It's

33:33

just oversaturated.

33:34

Yeah, I agree, you know, so I'm saying

33:36

that is what I was saying, is the good part of that,

33:39

and I think that's kind of the bad part

33:41

if it is.

33:42

The relationship building to be able to talk to anybody around the world

33:44

and connect.

33:45

Now we always talk about this on the show.

33:48

Is in the nineties, we

33:50

couldn't send people emails. We couldn't What

33:53

we had to do was we had to bring a

33:55

two inch rail to your studio session.

33:57

Do you think the music is better because people

34:00

were in the studio together as opposed to people

34:02

sitting features.

34:04

I think the music was better because limitations

34:07

breed creativity, and now

34:09

you can fucking everything is just so easy

34:12

to do with even just like the drum machines.

34:14

Motherfucker's gotten now.

34:15

Like the type of ship you know, like the

34:17

type of ship Dyla was doing, or like Primo

34:20

and all these type of motherfuckers, you know, the type of beats

34:22

they've just making. Back then, man, they was really

34:24

having to be like scientists, like real like

34:26

genius to be making these fucking beats. And now

34:29

you know, you can just fucking get fucking VSTs

34:31

and Pugins, you.

34:33

Know, and.

34:34

All that ship is just right there for you for the take

34:37

it.

34:37

Man.

34:37

So I think limitations breed creativity.

34:39

So the type of ship motherfuckers like, imagine

34:42

them bomb squad beats and ship like that, and

34:44

the ship like Beasties was doing and ship,

34:46

you know, likefuckers ain't

34:48

even working that hard to make no music, you know what I'm

34:53

yeah, they they ain't putting

34:55

that much work in, you know. And then you just

34:57

the point of having studio time. Now fuckers

35:00

recording shit in their bedrooms. You know that

35:02

that's why these motherfuckers don't rack, I mean

35:04

don't write. You know, before you had to have that

35:07

ship, you know, you cording on the tape, you had

35:09

to fuck up. You know, you got to do the whole verse back.

35:11

It wasn't no punching in and all that ship. Man,

35:13

So to be a rapper is way easier

35:16

now. You know, what

35:19

do you fabulous and os having comming?

35:21

What do you mean knaves and fabulous having come? I

35:24

mean I wouldn't know what got

35:26

your teeth fix? Oh yeah yeah, kill

35:33

test?

35:33

What made you do that?

35:35

I mean he was a health thinner that was like kind

35:37

of like your signature. Yeah, like when people saw

35:39

you that you had to missing too from there and it was like similar

35:42

to nas like like I remember Chip

35:45

too smile. He even said it in the record and

35:47

Fab the same way.

35:48

So what made you say, you know what, really

35:50

your health thing?

35:51

Because I didn't have those top teeth for so long.

35:53

You know, you're constantly biting ship. Your

35:56

bottom is working way harder than your

35:58

top, and your bottom don't supposed

36:00

to be biting ship, you know what I'm saying.

36:02

So my Dinners was telling me like, now you're about to lose

36:04

your whole.

36:05

Fucking bottom row. You keep going like this, man,

36:07

you gotta do you gotta get you some choppers up in that motherfucker

36:10

man. So I just had to do

36:12

it.

36:12

Man, you know you're happy

36:14

with him. I mean, it is

36:16

what it is.

36:16

I mean, I can honestly say. I mean, I guess

36:19

I was gonna do something for you motherfucker self esteem.

36:21

It was a time I likee you know, you walk up on a bitch,

36:23

they be like, you know, might get a little flavor

36:25

as soon as I talked to like what you

36:28

know, So yeah,

36:30

like damn start trying to say

36:33

gangs and ship like I got pistol whooped, you know, came

36:38

down on.

36:38

The rebound wrong in the mouth.

36:41

You know you gotta Yeah,

36:43

that's how. But then I got hit.

36:44

I got hit by car Oh wow in

36:46

the KFC parking lot.

36:49

See Centis Man in check. I

36:51

can't see Sentis Man in check. You know he does

36:53

sacrifice for your chicken wings fives.

36:57

But yeah, you know, ask for Christy.

36:59

I'm an original guy. I'm original too.

37:01

Yeah.

37:02

But yeah, it just was a health thing. I mean,

37:05

you know, and you got it.

37:07

So now one thing about you. Hair

37:10

color changes. Sometimes

37:13

we see you a green, sometimes

37:15

we see you a blonde. Sometimes it's

37:17

just it's just what what what?

37:19

What?

37:19

What is this?

37:21

You have a hairstylist or this is you? Are

37:23

you your own stylists?

37:25

Yeah? In some sense, yes, But I

37:27

don't know. I just think, you know, a lot of

37:29

people they just get caught up. I

37:32

think a lot of people be scared. They look in the mirror

37:34

and they just be happy with what they see. Maybe I'm not

37:36

happy with what I see all the time. I need to change this ship

37:39

up so I never keep the same hairstyle. Like

37:41

some people think I got like a personality disorder

37:43

or something. Man, Like, I'm never happy with myself,

37:46

so I've always tried to.

37:47

Fix some ship.

37:48

But no, I just, you know, or a lot of people just get

37:50

comfortable with the way they look. I just think I'm never

37:52

really comfortable, or I'm just not scared

37:55

to take chances, you know.

37:57

No, I think I think that's

38:00

what's unique about you is the weedu.

38:03

No, Okay, I love weed, I just can't

38:05

smoke it, man, we right, Nah

38:07

what I thought you got your vapor?

38:09

Nah?

38:10

Man?

38:10

I mean when I went to rehab,

38:13

it wasn't no intentions on me to stop smoking

38:15

weed, you know.

38:16

Because I love the weed.

38:17

But I just had to realize, Man,

38:19

my weed bone connected to my drinking

38:21

bone. My drinking bone connected to my coke bone.

38:23

You know, my coke bone connected to my nig

38:25

bone. And it's just it's just a gateway

38:27

for everything. So I ain't a lot.

38:29

I felt like that was the hooklive.

38:32

We're going to make a record out of that. So

38:35

I just got to give up everything. I even quit smoking

38:37

cigarettes, man, And I was in a Newport pack

38:40

of day. You know, I ain't

38:42

gonna lose one of those just like you yeah

38:44

kind of thing.

38:45

You know.

38:45

I had a Newport.

38:46

Yeah, I know, I know.

38:49

No, honest, I'll be honest with you.

38:51

That was probably the most ignorant thing I've ever

38:53

done. And I'm gonna tell you something

38:56

because it really held Newport.

38:58

So I went in up elevator

39:00

and I'm with this rich white lady that, by

39:03

the way, we still live in the same facility.

39:06

And I got in the elevator and

39:08

she looks at it. She's like, she's

39:10

disgusting, and

39:13

I'm like, without without no

39:15

like knowledge, I

39:17

just opened it up and I grabbed a cigarette

39:20

out and I put it. She was like, should

39:22

have never gave you niggas money. I

39:29

was the most ignorant. You know how they

39:31

say you ever spend like dumb

39:34

money. That was probably the dumbest money I've ever

39:36

spent in my life.

39:37

But though it was time,

39:40

I killed it. I don't want.

39:44

Time at the time.

39:48

You in the jury. I'm

39:50

more of a watch guy. What watches

39:52

are you into?

39:54

I always, you know, wanted like I used to be really

39:56

into like vendage, Rolex vintage.

39:59

Yeah, like know, like I used to.

40:00

Get like you know, like I was really

40:03

into like collecting. You know, if you like

40:05

certain businesses like

40:08

Domino's.

40:11

Like that.

40:11

So I was like ship like that. But then I just started

40:13

to realize that you can't even go to

40:15

the Rolex store in Bio Rolex. They

40:17

won't say, oh no niggas, no Rolex you know what I'm

40:20

saying. So it's like most of these niggas just wearing secondhand

40:22

Rolexes. So then I just stopped being

40:24

in the Rolexes. And just so now I'm more of a Brightling

40:26

guy because I understand. I

40:29

mean, you're going to watch that do some ship. Brightland's

40:31

really going through wars and ship.

40:33

You know, you can't die with a Brightling

40:35

on They'll finding you.

40:36

Yeah, So like Brightlan's

40:38

now like tag Hewers okay, wow

40:41

to no type of watches.

40:42

Okay, yeah, I ain't gonna lie grand

40:46

Listen, I'm trying to get into Grand Sago.

40:48

I'm trying to go to Japan. Yeah, that's

40:50

what That's what this interview should have been.

40:51

We should have interviewed you in Japan. I've never been in Japan,

40:54

man, I mean I always used to look

40:56

at those places like I ain't want to go because I couldn't

40:58

smoke. But nonsense, I'm like I'm

41:00

with it. So I turned

41:02

on a lot of ship just because I yeah

41:05

a lot.

41:05

Yeah, I

41:08

didn't even look at it like that.

41:09

You know.

41:09

It was with in Japan for

41:11

damn a month, eight ball and mj G Compona

41:14

and over eight ball and MJG did

41:16

a fucking tour in Japan for

41:18

a whole month and Instagram was not so

41:21

we we actually have no like

41:23

we got.

41:23

Like two pictures, no proof of it.

41:25

There's no proof but aoy MJG obviously

41:28

no. And we want to give the invitation to

41:30

a boln Yo. But

41:35

I'm gonna be honest with you. I

41:39

was always, uh, you

41:41

know, pause attracted to you because

41:44

to me, you

41:48

have what O dB has had

41:50

And what are saying about that is like it's

41:53

like that I don't give a fuck attitude, right, It's

41:55

like you fuck with me or you don't. And guess

41:58

what, I'm okay with that, and that

42:00

to me, it's dope because

42:02

most people want people to fuck with them.

42:05

Is that something that you.

42:07

Did or you ploted,

42:09

or that's something that yeah constantly

42:12

or that's something that just comes.

42:12

With I think this shit that just happens in your life

42:15

will kind of make you like that. And like I said, I didn't really

42:18

get started in this shit till I was like thirty

42:20

body, and I didn't give a fuck about what nobody

42:22

thought, you know, after all the shit that I've been through to get

42:25

to where I was at. So I think it's just more so

42:27

about that. But even like you said, that could be a defense

42:29

mechanism in some sense too, because everybody want

42:32

people to like them, you know, you know, but

42:35

it's just like, I don't know, I just don't give a fuck. I

42:37

just really I like what I like, and that's

42:39

what it is, you know, I can't really you

42:42

know, I think that's the problem, like just not people.

42:44

You know what I'm saying.

42:45

People really care about what other people think, and

42:47

shit, you know what I'm saying. And

42:50

probably that's why I was probably drinking and shit and getting

42:53

fucked up so much as a way to fit

42:55

in or feeling so awkward

42:57

being in public and shit like that, you know. I

43:00

mean, I wasn't comfortable with myself right type

43:02

shit.

43:03

You know.

43:03

Nah, But that's what makes you And and again.

43:07

Because I like, I'm forty six

43:10

and you say you for forty two, and

43:12

but you're still part of the younger generation, right,

43:14

which is crazy, right, But

43:18

it always seemed like it always just seemed

43:20

like you didn't want.

43:22

To co sign. I mean I did though,

43:25

I mean I was with Yao. Okay, I feel like

43:27

Yah, I love it. I love that.

43:29

I read that. We got to talk about that. Yeah,

43:31

Yayo was the first person that it was

43:33

in the Queens studio.

43:34

I mean I was recording in Queens for years

43:37

before.

43:38

And then Yaloe tried to sign you.

43:40

No, YAlO was he's actually, I

43:42

mean the engineer that worked at that studio shots

43:44

out the Door Boy. He had came to

43:46

Detroit with Yoyo when Yo was shooting

43:49

at Swat Movie and they

43:51

had, you know, they needed some weed and all that shit, you know, so

43:53

they hit me up and I came through and then he

43:56

just like, you know, my man rapping shit too, and it was like, let

43:58

me see some shit, and I showed him my video real

44:01

and he just blacked out. He tried to sign you A fifty

44:03

trying to sign I mean he just

44:05

was like fifty. He just was like, man,

44:07

you're leaving with me now? Like I literally

44:09

left with he was like go packing ship. I

44:11

left with Yo like the next day, and I

44:14

was with him uh, but like I mean,

44:16

it was I want to say, like I lived

44:18

with him, like the whole summer kind

44:20

of ship.

44:21

You know.

44:22

That's crazy.

44:23

Yeah, that's crazy. What would life

44:26

be like if you think you were signed the fifty right

44:28

now?

44:28

I wouldn't be here right now. No,

44:32

I'd be like the rest of the motherfuckers signed

44:35

that.

44:36

I don't know what that good or bad?

44:38

Yeah, I mean he had a lot of artists

44:40

that soup't talking

44:43

about, like the Gumbers, but like the other

44:45

other motherfuckers.

44:46

Man, I ain't gonna lie to you, you

44:49

know. You know, fifties first feature was

44:51

me. His first two features was me

44:53

and Component and r Jega.

44:55

And for me to go from that to

44:58

see him and niece France, I

45:03

cried.

45:04

I cried watching him and Buster

45:06

Rhymes performed and Buster called me and

45:08

I don't know if you guys know Buster, but

45:10

Buster what you for? I

45:13

was like, Yeah, it's overwhelmed, like watching

45:16

somebody like I Saider, you know, busting

45:18

my brother.

45:19

I mean, I've seen fifty come up. I was his first

45:22

feature.

45:22

And to see that ship and to see every generation,

45:26

every race in Nice

45:28

France, it was just so overwhelming

45:30

for me. I was just like yo, I had to believe, you

45:33

know what I mean, Like, because I'm proud of hip

45:35

hop? Are you proud of hip hop?

45:36

Like that? Yeah?

45:38

Okay, definitely. What's your proudest moment

45:40

in hip hop?

45:41

My proudest moment, I

45:44

don't know. I wouldn't say I've achieved

45:47

it yet.

45:47

Really I loved it.

45:49

I would say I still got a lot of shit that I want

45:51

to do, you know. I mean, you know, I

45:53

feel like, I mean,

45:55

just me being here, being

45:57

able like that kid was in fucking kingdo

46:00

Garden, like I want to be a rapper, so you just make

46:02

it.

46:02

In general, I'm just proud of myself for that.

46:04

You know, yot.

46:05

God damn, I love that grip. God

46:10

comes to you when God says,

46:13

Danny Brown, I

46:16

want you to make one record save

46:21

your life. Other

46:23

than this, Danny Brown, You're going to hell. I'm

46:27

gonna give you one producer, and I'm

46:29

gonna give you one feature. Who

46:33

is the producer you're picking? And

46:35

who is that feature? Anybody

46:38

dead, all alive? You

46:42

can pick ball all the other grade.

46:44

I mean, the producer will probably be Jay Diller.

46:46

I love this.

46:47

This motherfucker's too hip hop, so it'll be probabed.

46:49

I'll probably have to go with Jay Diller. I mean,

46:51

if I have to pick a fe it

46:53

would be I wouldn't want a feature. I w want a ship. I'm saving

46:56

my life, fuck that. But if I got to pick a

46:58

feature, I'll probably probably would have to be Knives,

47:00

because that's what the one person that inspired me

47:02

to want to do it.

47:03

You know, it's two things. I lost on you tonight.

47:07

I bet that you will be on time. He

47:10

was fifteen minutes late throwing it out there.

47:12

Oh that wasn't my thought. I'm always on time.

47:14

I'm always on time. I bet

47:17

that you will be on time. I lost.

47:19

And I bet that the feature that you will

47:22

pick. Do you know what feature

47:24

I threw? I thought you

47:26

would pick Beyonce for some reason.

47:28

I mean, of course you.

47:30

Want to get that hook.

47:31

But I felt like, I feel like, I

47:33

don't know why I feel

47:35

like. I mean, in my head,

47:37

I was like, oh, yeah, I do need that hook. Man, I gotta

47:40

get that one.

47:41

Who got it?

47:42

You got to get that heavenly voice on the hook.

47:44

But I mean, at the end of the day, man, like I said, Knives

47:46

was like the one

47:48

rapper that I was just like, fuck, I would never

47:50

be this good, you know that just humble

47:53

you type shit, you know, and then to see

47:55

what how he's still doing it now that

47:57

inspires me like I can't I can't stop.

48:00

I gotta keep going no matter what. Man like,

48:02

because at the end of the day, I look at it like, you

48:04

know, I'm like a vessel.

48:06

You know.

48:06

I don't know how I come up with this ship. You know,

48:09

this is a god given

48:11

talent. So when God decides when this ship

48:14

stopped, I can't never say I quit.

48:15

I can't never say I give up.

48:17

You ever met Yeah, okay, we're

48:20

at the subscriber. How did

48:22

you act as you fan out?

48:23

I think I bugged him out because I was talking about doing coke

48:26

and ship.

48:27

You know.

48:27

He was like, he's like you Like,

48:36

he was like, described situation.

48:38

Please.

48:38

It was that massippeal massive

48:41

office. Yeah, yeah, what

48:43

happens. We were just you know, just kicking

48:46

it. I mean, you know you just came in to him and said, no,

48:49

no, what it was. His

48:52

homie was with him and they he know, we

48:54

know, like some people together type

48:56

ship. You know. I was in the bathroom. He was like, yo, we

48:59

went to coach. I

49:01

was like Oh yeah, that was that. I was in that bitch doing coke

49:04

and it was just that kind of ship. It was just you

49:06

know what it was, to be honest, I used to take so

49:08

much fucking adderall at that time. And

49:10

if you take adderall, you just talk too much.

49:13

You don't really have to Cocaine's front like

49:15

cousin. Yeah, when you throw some, when you throw some liquor

49:18

on it, I mean it's.

49:21

One next pert.

49:22

It's like.

49:24

It's like.

49:26

Nothing, to be honest, it's more closer

49:28

to meth. Yeah,

49:30

it's like one property away from meth. But when

49:33

you drink with adderall, it does turn it to

49:35

like coke.

49:36

Okay, okay, I'm sorry. I just got

49:38

to ask you never did

49:40

math fuck?

49:41

No, okay, I mean ship all to

49:43

fake Molly I used to take. I probably did you

49:50

tell her that money I probably was doing in the States.

49:52

You know, I ain't realize who real

49:54

Molly was to fucking going to Europe, to

49:56

Amsterdam, no, London, really

49:59

really, you know, you get that fucking

50:01

crystal ship out hearing ship. Then night

50:04

out there, they just gave me a bag of powder. I'm like, what's

50:06

this powder ship? You know it?

50:08

And they gave me that powder ship, and I fucking I

50:11

licked my finger and hit that ship and they think, I know,

50:13

the whole bag was off, and I was like, what the fox did

50:16

all of it?

50:18

You know?

50:18

I just did all of it. And they came back to

50:20

me like, man, you got some of that money? Mind. I'm

50:23

like, they call it, man, do you got some more of that money? Man?

50:25

I'm like, shop, I did it like you did the whole ground.

50:28

You gonna you fucked mine? I was. I

50:30

was fucked up.

50:32

That was a great I can't

50:34

do it.

50:35

I was trying the

50:38

whole the whole ground money like,

50:40

yeah, man, I thought I sucked it up.

50:45

Next thing, I know, I just started going cookie monster.

50:48

Couldn't stay sting there A bit a hole

50:50

in my lip.

50:52

I ain't gonna lie because this sounds so fucked

50:55

up and.

50:59

Up like that. I know. I'm

51:03

proud of you.

51:03

It's just I wish I could have hung out with the older version

51:06

at some point.

51:07

It was fun or I would have got

51:10

on your goddamn nerves. You like, I can't take

51:12

this ship. I would have been cool

51:14

with both, could have been cool both.

51:16

So you

51:19

being from Detroit, we

51:22

just had been Zeno on our show, been

51:26

Zeno and Eminem. I

51:28

don't know what their problem.

51:29

I don't get it. Whose

51:35

side are you on?

51:36

I mean, I'm obviously gonna ride with my city. I'm

51:38

an Eminem guy anyway.

51:40

I mean, you know, yes, I

51:42

respect that. Okay, moving

51:45

on, But.

51:46

I still remember the almighty r s Old days,

51:48

you.

51:51

Know, yeah, because we had a wild one.

51:54

This is a wild one. Yeah, it's a crazy one.

51:57

He think the trailer. The trailer is nothing. It's

52:00

a tip of sized bird. It's so wild one, so old.

52:02

But it's that he mentioned on my R so they

52:05

came out.

52:06

That's the thing.

52:07

I feel like I'm hip hop his story in man. Yes,

52:10

yes, let's

52:13

too quick time with slid.

52:14

Let's do it.

52:15

Can you explain him?

52:17

I watched this show. I know what it is. I

52:19

watched this ship every.

52:20

Saturday to drink for

52:22

you, Sonny drinking from wait,

52:24

hold on, hold on, hold on, look Danny Brown, listen,

52:27

you can look around the room.

52:28

Who do you want to be your destinated drinker? I mean,

52:30

I wouldn't want to do that to nobody.

52:32

You know, you can't train over there

52:34

too? To tell me the trainer over

52:36

there? You can have him be a destinated drinker. He

52:38

may whoever want to drink, man

52:41

sort, you

52:43

know, but give Timey a drink

52:45

if Tommy want to drink. Okay,

52:50

so you don't. He don't got to explain the rules because

52:52

he said, you know the rules, all right.

52:54

I take it. I take a shot, yes,

52:57

tupacer d m X TUPAC.

53:01

And I mean just because you know his influence

53:03

of what he's done so far. I mean, you wouldn't

53:05

get.

53:05

X without pop. That's fucking that was a great

53:08

explanation, you know.

53:10

I mean, And plus this with the message he was putting

53:12

out there, you know, even though Pak was going wild and ship,

53:14

but niggas ain't making no dear mamas

53:16

now making no fucking Brendan baby

53:19

and none of that ship now.

53:20

So I mean the closest we got is k dot,

53:23

you know, just.

53:23

Talking with that fucking social commentary and that

53:26

message, and you know so and then

53:28

I still I feel like once a year

53:30

I get a fucking POC deep dive where I go back

53:32

and then you find some shit, Like recently I found

53:34

the demo versions of Macabelly.

53:37

I was like, fuck its motherfucker.

53:39

And then people be fronting on pac man, everybody be

53:41

always talking about Pak wasn't lyrical and ship like

53:43

that you tripping man Pack

53:46

was rapping motherfucker's under the table man. Yeah

53:48

he was Ye had wordplay

53:51

like it was just he had her all man.

53:53

He was a songwriter.

53:54

Yeah, he was Ye Nas

53:57

or kissed Nas and.

53:59

That's it's just because Kiss

54:02

ain't got no better album the Madic. You

54:04

know, I think Kiss would say that if we

54:06

go sixteen for sixteen. I'm pretty sure Kiss,

54:09

you know, do his ship. But I

54:11

mean I was just got that classic album

54:13

man, and to me, you got more than that. I

54:16

mean it was written, you know. I

54:19

fucking love Godson. I fucking love

54:21

the Street Disciple. I love all that

54:24

ship.

54:24

Man, you're from Queens Lost Ta Yeah.

54:27

The fucking original version.

54:28

I love the fact that you're from Detroit and saying that because

54:30

that's how exactly how I feel.

54:31

Yeah, I love that. I meant, too many motherfuckers

54:34

better than.

54:34

Nons though ain't too motherfuckers better than not. And that's

54:36

my friend, my motherfucker

54:41

Kendrick or Cole Kendrick. I

54:44

mean, he made the Pamper Butterfly man like, and

54:46

that was like that.

54:47

That's the album. With him in the van, the

54:51

White House, and ship.

54:52

Oh okay, in the city.

54:54

Okay, I mean that's just because I

54:57

mean, he just take it too far, man, you

54:59

know what I'm saying. Yeah, like anybody that

55:01

put that much effort into the fucking

55:03

music, man, like, he just really take

55:05

it. But he's just like you could just some motherfucker

55:07

is just naturally gifted. Like I

55:10

feel like Cole worked hard to get where he at.

55:12

He studied hard, he rapped hard. He I

55:15

feel like Couz was just born with that ship man,

55:17

Like, you can't take this. Did you just say,

55:20

Jake Coley? I like, no, I feel like cold

55:22

he did his ten thousand hours Kate

55:25

Out.

55:26

I feel like he just was born like that. Okay,

55:29

so you picked Kendrick, Yeah, I picked Kate Out all day.

55:31

Okay for real?

55:35

Oh, Kanye, I.

55:36

Gotta go with my Filipinos, man, I'm gonna go with for

55:38

real man for Filipino.

55:40

Yeah, man, I'm sure it

55:43

makes sense to me.

55:43

Yeah, you freestyled that you made

55:46

that up just now? I mean that motherfucker

55:52

would Williams.

55:54

Oh, well, my

55:56

Filipinos find out it got

56:01

listen. I'm not I'm not.

56:02

I'm not I was thinking that he isn't

56:06

know it was a Filipino and the crew man with

56:08

my Filipinos.

56:09

Man, I love your racist. I'm

56:14

not going.

56:16

I'm not hitting for real Farrell plugging

56:18

me in with the rich Milly. So until

56:20

he does that, I'm not gonna bother him.

56:23

I will not hit him.

56:24

Forrell is one of the greatest producers on I don't.

56:26

Really love to work with him.

56:27

Man, he never worked world. I can see that club.

56:30

I can see it follow me on

56:32

Twitter.

56:32

So maybe.

56:35

So if

56:38

you met for Bro, I seen him one

56:40

time and I think.

56:41

I probably weared him outcause I couldn't start following him

56:43

around.

56:43

But it was about mistake.

56:46

Mistake because he just had an order around him.

56:48

Man.

56:48

I couldn't glow and I just I

56:51

wasn't mean to do it. I just couldn't. I couldn't

56:53

stop myself, just like I just was drawing

56:55

to the nick man. I was like everywhere he went, I

56:58

was like, ship, I'm going ye. It

57:00

was like I could It was like a I don't know, like a Kendrick

57:02

Spard or something.

57:03

Man.

57:03

I couldn't stop following a nigga around.

57:11

I said this earlier, but

57:13

you keep it too.

57:15

I love I couldn't stop

57:17

following a nigga.

57:18

Bed.

57:18

I know it's like, what the roll with this nigga? But

57:21

I couldn't stop following the nigga.

57:23

Be I can't lie to you can't keep it too.

57:25

I love that you, but he

57:28

actually is that guy like you gravitate towards

57:31

him.

57:31

I couldn't stop it was I wasn't doing it on purpose.

57:33

How about three two thousands have you ever made?

57:35

I wish I wish man because I would love to

57:37

have a conversation with him. Man. I've learned

57:39

so much from him. He's like the same thing

57:42

with Niles too. But it might have

57:44

been like every time in my life when I was just talking

57:46

like Motherfucker's, Like I don't want to listen to motherfucker's lyricals

57:48

and ship like. There was a time in my life I just couldn't

57:50

really listen to Drake because I was like, man, he's too good

57:52

man ship man.

57:56

If it was anybody that like as much as

57:58

I loved nas, if it was anybody I could be like,

58:00

I wish I could rap like that, it'll be.

58:02

Him Andre and

58:04

you never met him.

58:05

No, Damn, I ain't gonna lie

58:07

I would pay people to see

58:10

the moment you and Andre three thousand

58:13

smack fix.

58:14

I would love, Man. I would y'all

58:16

gonna have on something crazy.

58:20

Be a fashion statement?

58:21

For sure.

58:22

It's gonna be like it's gonna be a

58:24

GQ session with with either one of y'all

58:27

planning it.

58:27

Yeah, definitely is.

58:28

A huge influence on me, man, and I swear to

58:30

God, this is where I feel like it's gonna

58:32

happen.

58:33

Just just roll with me with the rumor

58:36

they're gonna be in Utah, Utah

58:40

with the Mormons or

58:44

Missouri. It's gonna be like

58:46

a weird place. He's

58:49

gonna have on pink socks and

58:54

you're gonna have one orange

58:57

hair orange. I was

59:00

trying to get orange for a minute, so it's not it's not too

59:02

far.

59:04

Yeah you might. I

59:08

can see me doing orange one day.

59:10

Okay, let's keep going QuickTime Slot Future

59:13

Young Thug.

59:14

Future that nigga

59:17

said, don't my mama, I don't need

59:19

a bed. I'm sleeping on the floor. Everything he said

59:21

that, I.

59:22

Was like, he said,

59:25

he didn't be God,

59:29

damn it. I'm doing wu

59:37

tanger n w a wang damn

59:40

he said.

59:41

And I would think I mean, to be honest, you know,

59:43

yeah it's just Woo tang Man, because.

59:48

Yeah, it's just Woo Tanger.

59:49

I mean, I mean in my head, I kind

59:52

of feel like, you know, n w A

59:54

there's two albums is kind of like you

59:56

know better than like Wool albums in some

59:58

sense. But I feel like a lot

1:00:01

of n w A ship was like a lot

1:00:03

of like Bomb Squad influence ship.

1:00:05

So it was like I had like did

1:00:07

you say.

1:00:09

No, I don't Maybe when i Q left and

1:00:11

he did the America's most Yeah.

1:00:13

Like no, I feel like the first like straight out of continent.

1:00:15

All that kind of was like bomb Squad

1:00:17

type ship to me, didn't Bomb Squad

1:00:19

come after? No? Well

1:00:22

up ice C went to New York.

1:00:24

No, no, no, that's public

1:00:27

that's why the same time, but Matt so much

1:00:29

when you went over there, but I don't.

1:00:31

Check what you're Strada compon came.

1:00:33

I mean, just me, that's that's what kind of I don't.

1:00:35

I don't. I don't hear that in the production personally.

1:00:37

I mean the second album when they was you know, niggas always

1:00:39

getting into something ship like that kind of that's when they got

1:00:41

more on the wist Coast ship.

1:00:43

But I do feel that they were they were they

1:00:45

were like the same group from a different spectrum.

1:00:47

Yeah yeah, public, Yeah, I like, you

1:00:49

know, I got that. But when Wu Tang, I

1:00:52

never heard nothing like that before in my life. Okay,

1:00:54

you know that's the reason why I'm saying that.

1:00:55

Do you know what Strada Compson? What about

1:00:58

public enemies?

1:00:59

First?

1:01:00

And so let me ask you my favorite Danny

1:01:03

Brown. Let me ask you my favorite con argument

1:01:06

on Dream Champs. He hates it, maybe

1:01:09

I hate it. I think you hate it Ice

1:01:12

Cube or Big Smalls.

1:01:17

I think you know, it's easy to be like Biggie because

1:01:19

a lot of motherfuckers don't really remember

1:01:21

like Cube and this whole ship.

1:01:23

But it's like.

1:01:26

Biggie ain't have that much time, you know, right,

1:01:29

and then always one

1:01:31

thing, always try to think about. It's

1:01:34

like what was the message he was putting out too?

1:01:36

You know?

1:01:37

And Cube had a lot of social commentary, ship

1:01:39

and ship and a lot of shit you can learn from

1:01:42

and just you know, so I'm gonna have to

1:01:44

pick Cube, you

1:01:46

know.

1:01:47

Are you happy?

1:01:50

Y'all? Flip that whole discussion.

1:01:54

You ask me who my favorite artist was, and I

1:01:56

said, I just happen to say Cuban and you know, yeah,

1:02:00

I remember saying that.

1:02:02

By the way, that's the quietest I've ever been

1:02:04

on drink temps is because I'm

1:02:07

still up in the air. That is a great fucking

1:02:10

But.

1:02:10

Don't get me wrong, Biggie is still one of the best

1:02:12

to do it. You know, from

1:02:15

the time from his age to me, the argument

1:02:18

would be, who's better? Is Cube scarface?

1:02:21

If you're going to lyrics for lyrics, yeah, that's

1:02:23

the one.

1:02:23

I would be like, I can't, I can't

1:02:26

really, you know, you take a shot for that. If

1:02:28

you were still drinking.

1:02:29

Nah man, I'm saying Cube.

1:02:31

You're still saying yeah because que because

1:02:34

you were talking about.

1:02:35

Wherever you at when you put it Standard

1:02:38

Compton, then you put America's Most Wanted

1:02:40

the certificate kill that will like

1:02:43

that album run and then never mind

1:02:45

when he goes into movies and he does other things,

1:02:47

but like that album room right there is crazy.

1:02:49

And then it was just totally like a representation

1:02:52

that like where they was from on the West Coast and ship,

1:02:54

like you listen to a cube at me like this is what la

1:02:56

this is?

1:02:57

This is that ship?

1:02:57

You know with Biggie, it was Jerry girl, don't

1:03:00

get me wrong. Like Biggie had the bops, he had

1:03:02

the bang and he was a lyrical motherfucker

1:03:04

too. But it was just like, I still

1:03:06

just got to go back to what was the message he was putting

1:03:08

out?

1:03:09

You know?

1:03:09

And I love the fact that it's territorial

1:03:12

to a certain extent, meaning that if

1:03:14

you're from New York, I don't think anybody everyone

1:03:17

from New York will will.

1:03:18

Back Tony A.

1:03:19

Yeah, anybody from the Midwest

1:03:22

or the West Coast will also

1:03:25

agree with EFM. But sometimes

1:03:28

it is territorial and this sometimes it's just preference.

1:03:31

See, I'm in the middle from Detroit, so I ain't can't

1:03:35

and Detroit is considered the Midwest, Okay,

1:03:38

so I can't pick aside, you know.

1:03:39

But I just always when I try

1:03:41

to rank M season ship, I just always be like,

1:03:44

man, but what was the message?

1:03:45

You know?

1:03:46

What was they trying to?

1:03:47

Iun smoke, Okay, what

1:03:49

they putting out?

1:03:50

You know what I'm saying. And Cube, he

1:03:52

just had a lot of social commentary in this shit. Let's

1:03:56

go eminem or MGK,

1:03:59

come on, man, you're trying to be funny.

1:04:01

Now, Yeah, That's why.

1:04:04

I mean of course it's gonna be m you know. I

1:04:06

mean, if we wouldn't get a M G K, if

1:04:09

it wouldn't for him, you know what,

1:04:11

no white boys coming around, you know, yeah,

1:04:14

but for him like that, you know. And

1:04:17

I mean we had third base.

1:04:21

Don't forget.

1:04:25

Every last for

1:04:27

Jersey or something, Beastie boys, even

1:04:30

Vanilla Ice. I rolled playing for Vanilla

1:04:32

Ice. We got his phone number. He gave us the fake

1:04:35

phone number. Let's big U Vanilla Ice.

1:04:37

I want to do drink champs at all. He

1:04:39

was like, Nah, my.

1:04:42

Favorite white boy rapper is LP so killing

1:04:46

Mike lp Yeah, oh hell yeah.

1:04:48

So I'm not gonna lie because if we just have let

1:04:51

me just say this. I

1:04:54

didn't defend Eminem as much as I can, but

1:04:58

my favorite white

1:05:01

rapper of all times, it's Eminem.

1:05:03

I can't.

1:05:03

I can't deny that at all.

1:05:06

I can't.

1:05:07

And you know, Zino's my brother. I love

1:05:09

him, so Zeno kept you know, bating me is

1:05:11

like you really like em And I'm like yeah, and

1:05:13

you know he has his his his thing whatever.

1:05:16

But the thing about it is, I don't think I like Eminem

1:05:18

because he's white. I like Eminem

1:05:21

because I like Eminem. That's it, Like, like,

1:05:23

that's it that I knew

1:05:26

what he was trying to bake me into

1:05:28

doing. But no, it's not I like

1:05:30

him because he's white. I like him because I

1:05:33

like syllables.

1:05:35

I like what you put mother.

1:05:37

Rappers, rappers type ship.

1:05:38

You know what I'm saying. You you understand how

1:05:40

difficult it is to do what he do when you do this

1:05:43

ship. You know, so that motherfuckers

1:05:45

always trying to talk Ship. Be like, Man, we

1:05:47

don't hear no Eminem in the club, Nigga, you still go to the

1:05:49

club, I don't or

1:05:52

anything like, you know, you hear Eminem at fucking

1:05:54

football games and stadiums.

1:05:56

And ship, like the look on Spotify. Eminem is still

1:05:59

one fuck artists listen to.

1:06:01

At the end of the day, no one could take what he's

1:06:03

done for the white boy rappers at

1:06:05

the end of the day. Man, it wouldn't be your niggas

1:06:07

to be nice. So many fucking Eminem

1:06:10

clones and and Ship and you know, you

1:06:12

know.

1:06:12

Why I wanted to defend Eminem. And it's

1:06:15

not against Vinzino, but I wanted to defend the Eminem.

1:06:17

It's because I hate when people say, you know, he's

1:06:19

nice for a white guy.

1:06:21

No, he was better than the niggas when he first came out.

1:06:23

That's got cracking because you know, look,

1:06:25

you know what they used to do. He's nice

1:06:27

for a Puerto Rican What

1:06:29

the fuck do you mean? No, he's

1:06:32

nice for a Latino. So I didn't like

1:06:34

that, and then I realized white

1:06:36

people have been going through that same ship for

1:06:39

years. He's nice for

1:06:42

a white guy. No, man, that's

1:06:45

that you got to be nice because you're

1:06:47

nice.

1:06:47

It's like saying it's English.

1:06:49

And by the way, by the.

1:06:50

Way, I used the version nice.

1:06:54

These these young kids just like, what the fuck is

1:06:56

back in the.

1:06:58

In the nineties, you say nice,

1:07:03

you're l you're el Okay, moving.

1:07:05

On, Babyface

1:07:07

Ray or Skill a Baby. Oh this is a Detroit

1:07:09

shit. Yeah, uh,

1:07:15

it might be a shot for this one. Okay, I

1:07:18

would take a shot because I'm gonna say.

1:07:19

Like, you want a shot,

1:07:21

I love No, No, I'm saying this is a shot.

1:07:24

This is.

1:07:26

I like a sponsor over there. This

1:07:29

would be the first shot. This would be the first shot. And on

1:07:31

the reason because I'm gonna

1:07:33

say, because Skill a Baby is

1:07:35

like a real rapper. He could wrap

1:07:37

his ass off Okay, but I really love

1:07:39

baby Face Ray because he's representing

1:07:41

the side of Detrait that motherfuckers.

1:07:43

Ain't really seen. And what side is that?

1:07:45

And that's just like because a lot of people there's more people in

1:07:47

Detroit, like people come to Detray. Everybody try

1:07:49

to be too over gangster and you

1:07:51

know, or you're just super backpacked out. But

1:07:53

it's just like cool last fly niggas,

1:07:55

you know, they're just like the chill you know, the

1:07:58

regular cool niggas, and you know, he fresh and

1:08:00

funck with bitches, you know, And I feel like that

1:08:02

side of the trade never really been represented and

1:08:05

he coming through with that ship man, So yeah,

1:08:07

I'm gonna say that's a shot on that one. But

1:08:10

Skill the baby is like he's

1:08:12

a dope rapper in the sense of like he could

1:08:14

have been cracking in any time

1:08:16

period.

1:08:17

Of Detroit rap type shit. Like he literally

1:08:19

literally could rap his ass off, you know. Okay,

1:08:23

moving on, biz Mark hell o dB.

1:08:27

I mean, you don't get an ODB without biz Marquis.

1:08:30

But just because biz

1:08:33

Marquy don't got a better album than Dirties,

1:08:39

So I'm gonna have to say dirty, I

1:08:41

can respect that well, he said, bis Monkey don't

1:08:44

have a better album, man, then

1:08:46

what than any of dirty albums.

1:08:49

Up in the air.

1:08:51

I want to say that to the fans.

1:08:53

I know they're gonna kill me.

1:08:55

That is his. But

1:08:58

by the way, I've never heard that, So

1:09:01

I want to say this is clearly on Danny Brown

1:09:04

because I can't definitively

1:09:07

defend. I

1:09:09

can't. Can you look finished commuting?

1:09:12

I can see I can see you want to change something. No,

1:09:14

that first o dB album is so solid

1:09:17

man. Yeah, and I like Nigga please

1:09:19

too though, you know so,

1:09:23

but I get it, you know, but you got to remember,

1:09:25

man, biz Markey came out. I was still like a kid too,

1:09:27

so my ear was mature. Nis wasn't

1:09:29

you wasn't books pict bookers came

1:09:31

up.

1:09:32

Business so important to culture, like what he

1:09:34

brought to the table. Yeah, it was a game changer.

1:09:36

Yeah, that's this.

1:09:37

This is this is a great conversation. Out Cast

1:09:40

U GK.

1:09:42

Take a shot.

1:09:43

No, out Cast album

1:09:45

run is crazy. You know. It ain't

1:09:47

too many people that got four albums back

1:09:50

to back like that, you know, U GK.

1:09:52

They really didn't have that much time. You know, they

1:09:55

really just get the knowledge of the game. It's crazy.

1:09:57

You know they really just got them too, has

1:10:00

got four, so I'm gonna

1:10:02

have to say, I mean, the argument would

1:10:04

have been hard of it was my deep outcast. That's

1:10:06

when I'm like, ah, I

1:10:09

really can't really, you know, because they

1:10:11

both got footed me.

1:10:12

They tied. You

1:10:16

got the next one. Go ahead, This

1:10:19

motherfucker's sucking me up with his asses. Carris

1:10:21

Won to rock Kim.

1:10:24

I mean, Carris One had more output. And then

1:10:26

it's gonna go back to the argument that I

1:10:29

say, what was the message you're putting out? Now? We know rock

1:10:31

Kim is the guy, and you know he

1:10:33

never song about something basis, but

1:10:36

I mean Carris One is the teacher though, you

1:10:38

know. So it's like, I

1:10:41

mean, I know rock Kim is the type shit, but he

1:10:44

stopped. You know, he didn't

1:10:46

have that much output like Carris One. But don't

1:10:48

get me wrong, I feel like, I

1:10:52

mean, it's one song,

1:10:54

like rock Kim got a

1:10:56

better song than Carris One ever made. I feel

1:10:58

like, you know, like, don't sweat the technique.

1:11:00

I don't feel like nothing is kind

1:11:03

of better than that ship. Yeah,

1:11:05

Jews, no, the Ledge, all that ship. But I just

1:11:07

gotta pick care of as one just because he's

1:11:10

the teacher man, Like I

1:11:13

like that, just the message he put out, you know, but

1:11:15

who knows, you know, Kim to God. It's like we

1:11:18

would have loved to see five rockim albums

1:11:23

ghost Face or Ray Kwan ghost

1:11:25

Face man. And don't get

1:11:27

me wrong, I mean he just

1:11:29

because Ray I

1:11:32

mean immobilarity kind of just that's

1:11:37

where the argument got to be. Like just

1:11:39

with Iron Man and Supreme Clientele alone

1:11:42

is like the best back to back and in

1:11:44

the whole wo tang to be honest, you know. So

1:11:47

Yeah, and ghost Face out somebody that I super

1:11:49

looked up.

1:11:49

To face

1:11:51

versus I never used. It's on your beat high

1:11:54

damn, why are you looking at me like you don't

1:11:56

know? Yeah,

1:12:01

well, can you pull up that fucking verse? You

1:12:05

don't think you got it? You're a foul magga.

1:12:07

And it's the same thing like I was saying about Andre,

1:12:09

like like I wish I could rap like

1:12:11

ghost Face, you know, and ghost Face.

1:12:13

I love this style too, Like even with the clothing

1:12:16

ship Like as far as fashion clos

1:12:18

hell, yeah, I was I was dying the ships

1:12:21

and all that ship. Yeah, fucking

1:12:23

them up with the R I T. Doll a type of ship man.

1:12:26

We used to put white white shoe polish

1:12:28

on the soul, that turning ice blue. God

1:12:30

damn, we was doing all type of.

1:12:32

With the clerks.

1:12:33

Motherfucker's soul is crazy. All

1:12:37

right, movies Juice or Boys

1:12:39

in the Hood.

1:12:41

I'm like, I'm going back to the message.

1:12:43

So Boys in the Hood was more of like a social

1:12:46

movies. Juice is really like a fucking

1:12:48

nigga horror.

1:12:49

Movie, you know what I'm saying.

1:12:51

You like like Jason

1:12:53

running around, you know what I'm saying.

1:12:54

But with Boys in the Hood, just that whole ship.

1:12:56

You know, if Ricky Riggy Riggy

1:12:58

died, we were out of it.

1:13:00

Yeah.

1:13:01

Yeah, But I gravitated to like

1:13:03

the father trying to steer a son on the right

1:13:05

path and get them away from that ship, you know, because

1:13:07

a lot of niggas ain't grow up with dads and shit, do you know what

1:13:09

I'm saying. So I feel like that was

1:13:12

like that that speech he had with his son, you

1:13:14

know what I'm saying, Like, my dad ain't never

1:13:16

had a sex talk with me. I've seen that shit.

1:13:18

Boys in the Hood, you know.

1:13:21

Yeah, Monique.

1:13:28

Or Dal Hughley Comedians,

1:13:31

Yeah, oh, I mean Dal Hugley,

1:13:33

you know, but that's just because you know, you do it more,

1:13:36

you know, I mean, it's just more. I mean, Monique

1:13:38

is just more like on some acting shit,

1:13:40

and you know you can't take that away from her,

1:13:42

you know. But as far as like getting on stage

1:13:45

and shit, I mean, of course it's gonna be deal hugely.

1:13:47

Okay, next all Premordyla

1:13:51

Dla Man.

1:13:53

And I mean, the only reason I'm gonna say that is because

1:13:56

I know a lot of people always arguing and ship

1:13:58

about, but people got understand man, man,

1:14:00

the ship that Deler was doing. Man, they still talk

1:14:02

about and do shit to this day. Like I was in fucking

1:14:05

Sweeten one time, and like a fucking five star

1:14:08

restaurant. They was playing fucking slim village instrumentals,

1:14:11

you know what I'm saying. And just with him

1:14:13

making that Donuts album that was pretty

1:14:15

much like our version of jazz. Ain't

1:14:18

nobody else got that shit like that, Like you

1:14:21

can't just make a fucking album and then it's talking

1:14:23

to you through the music through the beats like he's

1:14:26

doing so much shit man like, and he's home team

1:14:28

for you. I mean yeah, but even without that, like

1:14:30

cause I mean it was so long that I didn't even

1:14:32

know that Dealer Ship was Dtray shit. When

1:14:35

that ship first came out of like tribing all that

1:14:37

shit, I was like, man, that's some New York shit.

1:14:39

You know.

1:14:39

I always thought that shit was like New York shit didn't

1:14:41

so I was like older and shit, and I was like, oh,

1:14:43

this shit really some Detray shit. You

1:14:46

know, cause I heard Slum Village when I was a kid. But I

1:14:48

was too immature to even understand that shit.

1:14:50

Man, Like, these niggas ain't shooting nobody or nothing. I

1:14:53

ain't getting high, man, I

1:14:56

can't get jiggy with this shit. But

1:14:59

then what I grew, well, do you know I understood the

1:15:01

genius and the music, you know, ship,

1:15:05

podcasts of radio, I

1:15:09

mean podcasts, I

1:15:12

mean, because the radio got too many rules. You

1:15:14

gotta listen to what another motherfucker tell you do

1:15:16

it what you can't talk about this and that and that and this

1:15:19

podcasting, this fucking this niggas

1:15:22

going rogue.

1:15:23

You know what I'm saying, Yea, you

1:15:27

know they're trying to put rules on everything podcast

1:15:30

over the years.

1:15:31

Sponsors and ship coming and you know, but

1:15:34

I mean, this is like one of the illest mediums.

1:15:36

To be creative is to have We always looked

1:15:39

at a motherfucker like Nora as an entertaining as

1:15:41

motherfuckers. So to be able to see this motherfucker talk ship

1:15:43

every week, it is like, that's a fucking blessing.

1:15:45

Man, God damn this this motherfu I

1:15:47

love this motherfucker. I ain't gonna you

1:15:50

know, what's the crazy ship?

1:15:52

Man?

1:15:53

You got hash in her? Yeah, I

1:16:01

ass live.

1:16:05

Let me tell you.

1:16:08

So many times I meet people that

1:16:10

think they know me, and

1:16:13

this is probably one of the first times

1:16:15

that I think.

1:16:16

I know you, Okay, you know what I mean,

1:16:18

Like, I think I know you.

1:16:19

I know, I think this is our first time. Yea, yeah,

1:16:22

it's our first time. Mean, but me

1:16:24

being a fan of how you

1:16:27

navigate through this industry, I feel like I

1:16:30

know you know what I'm saying.

1:16:31

I'm saying.

1:16:32

So I see people that come up to me and they'll

1:16:34

be like, yo, episode sixteen.

1:16:35

You know.

1:16:36

I just look at them motherfuckers like I don't know

1:16:38

what the episode whatever, but

1:16:41

they know me.

1:16:42

And that's how I feel about you.

1:16:44

Just in case you know that, I mean, Doug, I

1:16:46

really feel like y'all raised me. Man. Queen's

1:16:49

and janug and.

1:16:55

About the music.

1:16:55

And man, I grew up

1:16:58

like like y'all like my dad had me at

1:17:00

sixteen, you know what I'm saying.

1:17:02

So I had a young pops you know, was

1:17:05

busting us early.

1:17:06

Yeah, he had four kids by the time he was twenty one.

1:17:09

Your dad was

1:17:11

all hit him ripping.

1:17:12

Everything, uh, brand new

1:17:14

being a trip called.

1:17:15

Quest, Trip Car Quest, I

1:17:17

mean the same ship. I mean you know, I

1:17:20

mean yeah,

1:17:22

because Trip just it was just too much involved

1:17:25

with them, man, you know, and then you know Q

1:17:27

Tips like my big homie man Trap is like

1:17:29

you know, that's like my mentors and ship.

1:17:31

You know what I'm saying.

1:17:32

So I can't go against the grain with that, but

1:17:34

I could. I could just really just because me I'm a

1:17:36

rap nigga. So you know you had Tip

1:17:39

in Fife and besides

1:17:41

Pooba, man, I really do.

1:17:46

I'll tell you a funny story about Fife though. I

1:17:49

said, Laurie

1:17:51

know this and Laurie know that, but no Gat

1:17:54

Wow because Lorid Buck that. But I was giving

1:17:57

respect to bon No this

1:18:00

that Jack and

1:18:02

Rap and five Dogs.

1:18:03

See me, kid you not?

1:18:05

And he was like, I'm gonna get you back. I

1:18:09

was like, this is bigger and he

1:18:12

was. That's how much competitive person

1:18:14

he was. You can tell because he

1:18:17

took it like I took his line and made it better

1:18:20

as opposed to that's I was trying to big him

1:18:22

up and I never got to fix that situation.

1:18:24

So Fife died.

1:18:27

That's crazy though, thinking like I

1:18:29

was like, is going to diss me?

1:18:31

You bet him?

1:18:32

He no, it wasn't. He thought

1:18:34

he was biting.

1:18:35

No, he thought that I took his ship and I didn't

1:18:38

like kind of like, okay,

1:18:44

I was like, but I was.

1:18:46

You took it like and I did it better, right, and

1:18:48

that's why you matter.

1:18:49

He's like, no, you bet my ship. You

1:18:51

know what, I'm gonna let you ride with that. He

1:18:54

could have took it like that. He could have, but it

1:18:56

was like respectful.

1:18:58

I'm sure it was.

1:19:00

I'm gonna take one of your lines and I'm

1:19:02

going to do the same exact ship.

1:19:04

And I was like, no, you're letting your fight

1:19:07

though, like I was showing respect.

1:19:09

He was just like there's some old

1:19:11

school rules, man, that's all.

1:19:13

He was competitive.

1:19:15

If it was to ever do a versus, who would you want

1:19:18

to do a versus against?

1:19:21

I don't know if they can do no verses me. You have

1:19:23

to be like, I don't know, man, I sit in

1:19:25

my own class. It ain't no,

1:19:28

he got fucking problems and all that ship he

1:19:30

got drakes can't get that ship

1:19:32

man. He gotta be like some real alternative

1:19:34

rap ship like you know, nah

1:19:37

man, he got fucking outcast songs

1:19:39

and ship man.

1:19:40

Okay, no, it ain't.

1:19:43

He gonna bust my ass man like LP

1:19:46

like he's done too much ship man. He got fucking

1:19:48

cannibal ox ship he can start to a

1:19:50

producer. You know, there's so much ship you done

1:19:52

done producing wise man.

1:19:54

Like that's so who would you want

1:19:56

to go against? I wouldn't

1:19:58

want to do that.

1:19:59

Ship many don't want to. I mean fucking versus

1:20:01

here. I don't battle your ass. If anything,

1:20:04

get over the corner, no beat, no nothing, then to

1:20:06

see who gonna win. You know, fuck

1:20:08

your song what you want to on the corner.

1:20:11

I mean, whoever think they want it? Because

1:20:16

I think of somebody space

1:20:28

ghosts purpose.

1:20:29

I mean, he's a crazy motherfucker. Man, I don't know. I

1:20:31

wouldn't even want I mean, you know, I take him

1:20:33

to a therapist before I do anything.

1:20:39

Show you badass man.

1:20:42

It's only two rappers I think, fucking me like that, and that's

1:20:44

Kate I Ner Sweatshirt. So anybody

1:20:46

else, I'm gonna give him the business. I like, I like,

1:20:51

so anybody else they get in the business. Anybody

1:20:55

else, Yeah, I mean besides oh Jesus over

1:20:57

me, but my pure group of my class.

1:20:59

Yeah, I think I Nigga from the Sexel

1:21:01

Couple could get it.

1:21:02

I mean, that's Kelly could get it.

1:21:04

Actually, I mean, like

1:21:06

I said, Action Bronston

1:21:08

can get it.

1:21:09

Actually a bad motherfucker though, But yeah,

1:21:12

Freddy ain't my class.

1:21:13

Freddie for me, man, you

1:21:15

know.

1:21:16

And Freddy Due he bust ass though every time I've

1:21:18

been on the song with him, he got me.

1:21:19

So what Freddy get Yeah, that's

1:21:22

big of you to say.

1:21:23

I know.

1:21:24

I mean, nigga, you rap, you know what's up?

1:21:25

Man?

1:21:26

That's one thing I hate about these motherfuckers. You know what the mofucker

1:21:28

got you?

1:21:28

You know?

1:21:30

Okay, Mob deeper

1:21:32

Mop my deep.

1:21:35

And it's just I mean, I feel

1:21:37

like, like I said, Mob to me, got four, Mop

1:21:40

got two. So and

1:21:43

I love the Warriors. Warriors is like, you

1:21:45

know, but I still even

1:21:47

go to on like the beat making tip like

1:21:49

Havoc is like one of my favorite producers

1:21:51

ever, you know, and you know Phizy

1:21:53

get busy too though, But you know,

1:21:56

I just like my mob is like and Prodigy

1:21:58

is like one of my favorite rappers ever. Know, so

1:22:01

fine, I always gonna ride with Queens. I think I

1:22:04

expect you moving on immediately.

1:22:07

Let's go Exhibit A ra.

1:22:11

West Coast.

1:22:13

I think raz Cast is a better

1:22:15

rapper, but Exhibit had a better album. Forty

1:22:18

Days and Forty Nights. By

1:22:21

the way, that video might be the best, the

1:22:24

best one. Yeah, Paparazzi,

1:22:26

paparakki.

1:22:28

Yeah, they shot, they they

1:22:30

made it forward, but everything happening backwards.

1:22:32

But what I'm saying, I thought it was in one

1:22:36

one take, one take. That's how I thought. Wasn't it BA

1:22:38

was it backwards? No, it's not backwards. I think you can confuse.

1:22:40

I'm sorry, it's one take through it.

1:22:44

She was saying ras Cast because he had Solo Night's

1:22:47

remix.

1:22:47

Okay, yeah, but Exhibit it

1:22:50

was the one.

1:22:50

But I got to be honest.

1:22:51

I got to say the Exhibit has the best video

1:22:54

in hip hop. No, that video is amazing, and I

1:22:57

don't know if of course the money.

1:22:58

Hell yeah, that did you know what it?

1:23:00

I didn't know.

1:23:00

I didn't know.

1:23:01

But what I'm saying is the creativity

1:23:03

part of him just walking through that one

1:23:05

scene.

1:23:06

I've never seen nothing that creed.

1:23:07

And you know it was crazy because they redid

1:23:09

it with Jel Santana video and that was just as

1:23:12

dope. So anytime you could just bite a video

1:23:14

and that shit steal fires.

1:23:15

Wow wow, Okay, next one,

1:23:19

scarfacer c Really that

1:23:21

was on that for real?

1:23:23

See that's the one I got to

1:23:25

s Yeah, you gotta take a shot. There

1:23:29

ain't no winners in that one man.

1:23:34

Bomb squad or organized noise.

1:23:37

Bomb squad because

1:23:39

you can't do that ship no more, you know

1:23:41

what I'm saying. And you won't have to fuck around

1:23:44

and lock you up trying to make them bomb squad be.

1:23:48

How to organized noise without bomb squad? Is

1:23:50

that accurate?

1:23:50

I would organized noise to me? It is more like

1:23:52

getting to the live instrumentation ship type ship

1:23:55

too though you know, not South

1:23:58

just live instrument yeah, just wor like

1:24:00

you know, they was bringing in like guitarists and

1:24:02

ship like that. You know, So I look at that ship's

1:24:04

like more live instrumentation, and I

1:24:07

look at bomb squad as just like taking

1:24:09

one hundred samples and making one day out

1:24:12

there.

1:24:12

You know what I'm saying, God, you can't

1:24:14

do that ship no more. I haven't you get

1:24:16

like I'm going to jail.

1:24:17

They do. They're just gonna you

1:24:24

just go to jail. You do bomb squad be stuff?

1:24:28

LP get close?

1:24:28

Who already? But

1:24:31

I say, LP, That's why I think.

1:24:32

You know he makes bomb squad ship without doing

1:24:35

all that you know conye

1:24:37

for we actually told them worrying

1:24:39

my Filipinos. Yeah, you you jumped

1:24:42

with the philippinais up in my mind.

1:24:44

I didn't even know it was there. Man, you're good.

1:24:46

YEA gives a school boy?

1:24:48

Q Oh, that

1:24:52

might be a shot. I see a shot?

1:24:54

That a shot.

1:24:56

I can't because I can't. They both

1:24:58

sitting there own right, you know, like

1:25:02

they're both sitting there on right.

1:25:03

Man.

1:25:04

You know I can't even we have

1:25:06

a schoolboy q is.

1:25:10

We start?

1:25:11

Uh?

1:25:13

And we would love to have them all.

1:25:15

Yeah, you'll be great.

1:25:16

I'm pretty sure this ship kee my homie.

1:25:18

Yeah yeah, okay,

1:25:21

next one not even by nature,

1:25:23

lost boys.

1:25:24

By Nature Man trench rat

1:25:26

better than mister Cheeks. I'm

1:25:31

sorry I had to be Queen's on that one.

1:25:35

Business. They

1:25:38

both my brothers, and you know what, they

1:25:41

would love to hear that. They love that.

1:25:43

They love that. Trenches.

1:25:45

Come on, man, Trenches underrated, I feel.

1:25:48

I mean, trenches. That's that's what you call

1:25:51

lyrical miracles, you do, yes, trenches?

1:25:54

Is that dude? Cannabis

1:25:57

and Keith Murray. Keith

1:25:59

Murray, big

1:26:02

up Keith Murray.

1:26:03

Yeah, Keith Murray.

1:26:04

Man.

1:26:06

I mean, And don't get me wrong, I'm just saying because

1:26:08

because Cannabis when he came out, everybody was

1:26:10

shaking in their boots. No, yeah, he had everybody

1:26:12

scared.

1:26:13

Than the motherfuckers.

1:26:15

It's just that album though, that

1:26:18

White Cleft one, that was kind of crazy.

1:26:20

Well Cannabis.

1:26:21

Yeah, that Cannabis.

1:26:22

Cannot Bus that was kind of even that title,

1:26:24

you know, and he got a lot of crazy lines eating

1:26:26

ass like me and all that kind of Yeah,

1:26:32

but like some of that ship ain't bars

1:26:34

no more.

1:26:34

It was bars back then, but big

1:26:37

up cannabis somewhere then he.

1:26:39

Had that battle when he ripped his note pad out, like

1:26:41

yeah, that was that was too crazy.

1:26:43

But cannabis wherever you're at. He

1:26:46

said that me and you didn't send him a car service.

1:26:49

No, I talked to him.

1:26:50

I mean it hasn't been lately, but we

1:26:53

need to have him on the show Man. But he was

1:26:55

a game changer when he came out.

1:26:57

I feel like Keith Murray. Music still to test the

1:26:59

time though, Like you listen to something that keep Murry

1:27:01

ship and you're.

1:27:01

Like, fuck, you know what I'm saying, like the most

1:27:03

beautiful thing in the world.

1:27:06

Like some of that ship is crazy. Man, It's

1:27:08

just like that. Ain't nobody never

1:27:10

did that ship since? Like he had he said in his

1:27:12

own right, like that,

1:27:14

ain't nobody like rapp like Keith Murray.

1:27:17

We ain't never heard nobody be like, oh he rapped like Keith

1:27:19

Murray.

1:27:19

Ain't nobody.

1:27:22

Murry can't even wrap. Like it's

1:27:29

just like, yeah,

1:27:34

man, so.

1:27:36

Asp Rocky

1:27:38

or Hopson.

1:27:39

Come on, man, that's a trick question.

1:27:42

I mean it's that rocky obviously. Man,

1:27:44

you know I would even I mean, yeah,

1:27:47

it just ain't sa rocky man, you know.

1:27:50

SA. Let me let me just say something.

1:27:52

A SAP.

1:27:55

I'm really proud of a SAP.

1:27:57

You know why.

1:27:59

They changed the trajectory.

1:28:02

I'm using big words. You guys know, I don't

1:28:05

use big words of New York

1:28:07

rat. He

1:28:11

went out there and took a risk.

1:28:13

I like that.

1:28:14

Yeah, and he was just being him too. That

1:28:17

was for us, you know.

1:28:18

So I want to pick up a sap, Rocky, a

1:28:20

sap for all the A SAPs, even

1:28:23

the.

1:28:23

A He did try to sell us under armours though

1:28:25

he did, but we didn't.

1:28:28

That's the only thing.

1:28:35

That's what under

1:28:39

But I like his He got a whiskey great

1:28:42

because Canadian whiskey. I fantastically

1:28:44

liked it. Yes, it's

1:28:47

Canadian Japanese whiskey. He

1:28:50

showed us a bootleg. But because

1:28:52

the first time I got bootleg ship, I was like, I'm good

1:28:55

in the same homies that came with Kevin Harden his yes

1:28:58

and hard people.

1:28:59

I love those people. Those what are those people? What do they

1:29:01

name or whatever?

1:29:03

They are?

1:29:03

They the name of the Yeah,

1:29:10

okay, god, yeah, go to the next one.

1:29:13

Big your big pun. That's

1:29:17

a good one. Only

1:29:19

got one shot left too, Damn.

1:29:25

That is a her win though. But I much

1:29:28

I'm yeah, take a

1:29:30

shot, take the shot. Just

1:29:33

take this shot, man, because I

1:29:36

would have loved to hear them wrap together, you

1:29:38

know, would that

1:29:41

would have been I would have gave me more of a something

1:29:43

to judge you know what?

1:29:45

Was there never a record of them too? No, no,

1:29:48

they're thisted in two different time friends. Yeah

1:29:52

yeah, yeah,

1:29:55

and Pun didn't come out till ninety eight.

1:29:58

But there's something that must have been some ship

1:30:01

that was you relating Joe. No,

1:30:03

no, no, no no, there was something that was putting an

1:30:06

old freestyle. Well, if Pun and

1:30:08

Biggie was in the same room, Pun wasn't, Pun

1:30:11

doesn't make sense.

1:30:12

Yeah, you know what I mean, Like in my head, like I want

1:30:14

to just to say, like Biggie just because I got more ship,

1:30:17

you know, But then I just think about Pun

1:30:19

versus and it's like Biggie can't you

1:30:21

know, So it's like we get

1:30:24

it. Yeah, that's even man, Dave

1:30:26

Chappelle, Chris Rock, Yeah,

1:30:30

Deve Chappelle. But I

1:30:32

mean, that's that's the crazy one. But

1:30:34

yeah, I just say Dave, though I'll

1:30:36

say Dave speak of the.

1:30:37

Dave Chappelle man. I ain't gonna lie.

1:30:40

I just say that, I like hanging with Comedian is

1:30:43

way more than like hanging with rappers.

1:30:47

Ask me why.

1:30:48

I mean, I kind of I kind of cold get

1:30:50

that. I kind

1:30:52

of like.

1:30:53

Comedian cannot stop being a comedian.

1:30:55

Yeah, I mean it's just in him. You know

1:30:58

then, right, Rappers is

1:31:00

like they

1:31:02

got wrestlers, they like they got their.

1:31:06

I'm gonna be honest with you.

1:31:07

Other than Kanye, rappers don't rap

1:31:10

every aspect of their

1:31:12

life.

1:31:13

Comedians just have

1:31:15

to be funny. Yeah, I mean the

1:31:17

whole world.

1:31:17

They can just see ship and just you know, everything

1:31:20

could become a joke to them.

1:31:21

You know.

1:31:21

Don't get me wrong.

1:31:22

I've been around some comedians that's funny as on stage.

1:31:24

It ain't funny in real life though, ain't funny

1:31:26

And yeah, they ain't cracking those jokes and ship, I

1:31:29

mean ain't come. I'm

1:31:32

just saying that, yeah,

1:31:35

if he was drinking. To be back

1:31:37

on that, I do think Chris

1:31:39

Rock does have better specials than Dave Chappelle.

1:31:41

I think that's just more preference for me. I just like Dave

1:31:43

Chappelle, you know, just with the show and all

1:31:45

that ship. But I do feel like Chris Rock

1:31:48

specials early

1:31:50

you know, they was crazy.

1:31:52

You know.

1:31:52

I love Chris and Dave Chappelle, and this makes

1:31:55

them both. I'm gonna take a shot for that.

1:31:56

So yeah, I'm gonna take a shot.

1:32:00

And Dave Chappelle because they both gave me to

1:32:05

the most greatest complent. I

1:32:08

walked into NAS party, his

1:32:11

fiftieth birthday party. I walk

1:32:13

in and the first person I see is Chris Rock, and

1:32:15

Chris Rock says, I ain't gonna talk nobody Nigga's

1:32:21

Chris Rock. And he said, I ain't

1:32:23

talking on nobody nigga. And I said, he

1:32:25

said, but if I talked to somebody, I'm

1:32:28

coming to drink Champs. And I was like, my wife

1:32:30

looked at me and she she just gave me like

1:32:33

like the handshakes. She was like, I'm so proud

1:32:35

of you. Like

1:32:37

and by the way, this is this is no cameras allowed.

1:32:40

This is NAS fifty birthday party. So it's

1:32:42

like so it's just it was just so

1:32:44

beautiful. So Chris Rock, man, I want to I want

1:32:46

to think of him. I'm gonna continue. I

1:32:49

got to take a shot, right, Okay, last

1:32:51

one is on you, loyalty

1:32:56

or respect. I

1:33:00

gotta pick one.

1:33:02

I mean, because to be honest, man, like

1:33:05

I do watch the show and I see

1:33:07

a lot of times motherfuckers be on here

1:33:09

and they be like respect, and you were like, motherfucker,

1:33:12

you get disrespected every day man. You know, Maggy

1:33:15

Mama's call you out your name a type of shit.

1:33:18

You still so to me, Man, I

1:33:20

don't care about loyalty because loyal

1:33:22

to your orders, because loyal t come at a cost.

1:33:24

You know.

1:33:25

And you get disrespected by motherfuckers

1:33:27

you love every day and you still go back and you.

1:33:29

Still love them. You know what I'm saying.

1:33:30

So to me, I just want honesty, you

1:33:33

know, just be honest to me. You know what I'm

1:33:35

saying. I'd rather a motherfucker look not

1:33:37

look me in the fucking eyes and lie to me. But motherfucker

1:33:40

disrespect you all the time. You you

1:33:42

just gotta you know, it is what it

1:33:44

is. The kids disrespect

1:33:46

you, so he said. You know what I'm saying, You still love them.

1:33:50

The motherfuckers you love the most disrespect you with

1:33:52

though it be unloyal to you, you still gotta

1:33:54

be with them.

1:33:54

You still gotta love them. I

1:33:56

don't know what else he picked. Either

1:33:59

got drinking neither. I'm taking a lot.

1:34:03

I'd always say both to be honest.

1:34:05

I just got honesty, man. But tell

1:34:08

me, you're gonna tell me you ain't gonna

1:34:10

be loyal.

1:34:10

You know it is?

1:34:13

Yeah, Solom.

1:34:16

Take a piss. So what are you drinking

1:34:18

right now? Oh?

1:34:19

This is iced tea?

1:34:20

You ordered some weird ship though, urban

1:34:22

my tey?

1:34:23

What is it?

1:34:24

Europe?

1:34:28

Is that that's the urban my tee is just like a

1:34:30

zamp type It's like it's just like this

1:34:33

is like a zimpic of tea to two times

1:34:35

stronger than coffee type ship.

1:34:37

It's not that's what.

1:34:41

That's what they I never heard of that, but I

1:34:45

drink it a lot.

1:34:46

I mean that's what I drink, you know, I mean it's

1:34:49

drink coffee in the day.

1:34:50

Do you know what I'm saying?

1:34:51

Right?

1:34:51

But I like it so because

1:34:54

a lot of people can't go from one extreme to

1:34:56

another extreme?

1:34:58

Do you think that that's what? That's what you all?

1:35:00

The less?

1:35:00

You went from one extream like like you know,

1:35:03

like you said, you said cocaine all that, and then

1:35:05

now you're going to this other world?

1:35:07

Is it?

1:35:08

Is that.

1:35:11

What you think? Do you mean?

1:35:13

Another world of like what?

1:35:14

Just be like sober?

1:35:15

I feel like that's what we're supposed to be doing.

1:35:17

You supposed to be doing and like what

1:35:20

do you.

1:35:20

Think do you think you do it right?

1:35:22

Like I don't feel like I should be applauded for doing something

1:35:24

I'm.

1:35:24

Supposed to be doing.

1:35:25

You know, but

1:35:30

is that one extreme sort of next I

1:35:32

wouldn't say.

1:35:33

It's an extreme.

1:35:34

I mean, I mean the hard part

1:35:36

is you just realized,

1:35:38

like, man, we'll the time go now, you know, Now,

1:35:40

like I ain't sitting around smoking blunts so drinking all

1:35:43

day. It's like, fuck, I have so much fucking time on my

1:35:45

hands now, Like what the fuck? So now

1:35:47