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crazy about it. Dropping a movie.
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On Valentine's today and
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today and today is
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Bob fucking Molly's birthday.
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And we got in case you don't know who
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we're talking about, were talking about the one the
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only first
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off, I gotta to have a drink till till Bob
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Molly.
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You know.
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You know what's the crazy thing is a
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lot of us felt like Bob
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mar It was our father. So
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it's like you shared him
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with the world because like
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there's no place on earth I
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can't go and Bob Marley record
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won't play no place. And let
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me tell you something me, I've tested it. I
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lived by my white people. I tested it myself.
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You can play that music at a disrespectful
2:23
level. You can play it all
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the way up. There's not one person that's gonna
2:27
say turn it down, not one.
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I've tried it numerous times with the
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cool white people, with the people who look
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racist, for the people who might
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not be, but they are. They used to be
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in the maund and I put on any
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you have been with me, you've been with me and
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with his dreads and his dreads,
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and they don't get offended.
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Dress.
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That's like, yes, did you ever realize
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how much of global music he was
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making?
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You know?
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To your point still growing up
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right, I had to come to terms
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with what you just said, you know what I mean, being that
3:03
you know our father, it is not just.
3:07
My father, you know what I mean.
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So one a time I had to really like be
3:12
like wow, you know, and
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it was a point in life where there was an instance
3:17
that kind of kind of put
3:19
us in our place.
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And it was one day.
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Most of the times at Hope Prode in
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Jamaica, at my dad's place, everyone
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come check him, you know, like if
3:30
you need any type of help, you know, utes
3:33
from the streets. This particular
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day though, these guys Hope
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Bob my museum what it's called today,
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But these youths right growing
3:44
up there were three boys, but there are
3:46
also acrobats. So during
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the week they'll come to Hope pro and they
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do all kind of flips and singing.
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You know everybody
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no.
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On the hustle you watch the wind Street, Yeah,
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you know the good boys.
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Okay.
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So one Sunday, now my
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brother and I Stephen, we're in
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Hope Rod and you know, this is a Sunday
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man.
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And they showed up at the gate. So
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we kind of walked down.
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To the gate and kind
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of told them, I said, we said, listen
4:20
today, it's it's
4:23
our day.
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You know, you can't take take
4:26
his own guy.
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We didn't say that, but so but
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our dad he was kind of watching us
4:33
from upstairs, so he called
4:36
us, Stephen Rohan, come
4:38
upstairs, go upstairs.
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Now, he said, you
4:42
see those boys outside, let
4:45
them inside.
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And this is the street guys. Okay.
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And at the time there was.
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A guy like on Sundays the ice cream
4:51
man come around and he write a little fudgy
4:53
fudgy write a little bike, you know, with the fudge
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on the back, the ice cream on the back. He
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says, see the boys go downstairs by
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them all ice cream and watch them
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eat ice cream.
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So, you know, as.
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Youth, and you know, my father is kind of
5:06
is you know, when he talks, he talks strong,
5:09
so you're kind of shaking. So
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but what we realize is that our father
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really was trying to teach us a lesson
5:16
that it wasn't just about
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you know, his children on the inside.
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It's about the children that don't have anymore,
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you know what I mean. So right
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then and there we learned the principles
5:29
about you know, when you have, you have to share.
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That was a and yeah, and that's
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and that's kind of us. His rule to
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those youths. It wasn't even about us.
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It's about, like you said, how those
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youths. So my father in
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regards to what you do for them as
5:46
youth just growing up, you know.
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So it was we're kind of in the way.
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He didn't come to see us.
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But I'm gonna be bounce
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around a little bit because when
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you look at all these bioptery movies,
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these these pictures. Yeah, and one
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of the people that say one of the most
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most accurvated, most on point one is the
6:06
Straight out of Compton one. And everyone is saying
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that's because you know, ice Cube and
6:12
people were there to somewhat
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guide them to what to talk about. Is
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this something that you had to do with this movie that because
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you know, the family as a whole, this.
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This movie right our
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brother Ziggy, big brother Ziggy. It's
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been in the works for five years.
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Oh wow.
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You know he's also the.
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One that was mainly
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behind Marley's documentary.
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I'll just watched that yeah on the Sheriff.
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No, not that one that went Marley's call.
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That one is we don't know who did that one,
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but it's out there. But as
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far as family, you know, and
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then this one now Finally when
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Ziggy, you know, did all
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the research, find the right people
6:53
that the cast and all the things that he needed
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for the film, got the money he needed
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to make the film happen, you know,
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he did that and most
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importantly the relationship
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that we have when normally the cast members, but
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the main actor, the actress, the
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producers and some of the directors. It was
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just very very much
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an intimate film, you know, and
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very personable because we're
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able to kind of talk
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to Kingsley about, you know,
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some of our dad's ways
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and like attitudes,
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mannerism, and
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Kingsley himself he's.
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So pointing on as an
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actor, you know what I mean.
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He means well,
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just as.
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A yeah, because of craft, you know, that's
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a scraft, but to be able to tap
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in and reach that
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level where it's truly impressive, bro,
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and we love that. And this film, as
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he said, it's really a family certified
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family made, you know, Ziggie,
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Sidela, Mama, Rita, the entire
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family, myself, Stephen, you know, we're
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we're always there and support all the brothers, sisters,
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So it's really a family unting
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as well as my dad's friends, right
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the sons of the musicians are playing
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their dads. A
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lot of Yeah, it's a lot of costs
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is Jamaica. And then again,
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the amount of people that were able to like
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get a job in Jamaica because of the
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movie your cousin the.
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Movie is another good thing. We're probably that.
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So he's still working from heaven. He's still working
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from heaven. So
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that's one of the things that me
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knowing that I was going to interview you, I was just
8:43
doing search like a lot of your father's
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concerts. And one
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thing that you can tell,
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everybody claimed Bob Molly, white
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people, black people,
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like everyone felt that a
9:00
piece of him, you know what I mean, like
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that, that's that's crazy.
9:05
Yeah, the
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main thing is is about the
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truth, you know, and a man
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like our father, this
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man lived for that purpose, you know.
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And when you're you're a musician,
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you know, you you know the thing music
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in general, and you know what music is. It's a vehicle
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and we choose to deliver the message or we choose
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to deliver it and we choose to say what we.
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Want to say.
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We see you Rastafar, I know, and
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what that means to our father and
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us as Rastafari people, us as a people
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in general, human beings, you know, and
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the ones that really want to represent that human
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being. Movement is like that, like
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so to sol a movement that's
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kind of all father, and that's what he really
9:50
stand up for is a man of his word, like
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what he says, what he does, you know, and still
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does it, you know. And and that's the important
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thing. So I feel like said that
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truth within that message is
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that connection to a people
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that seek a certain way
10:08
of life, wants this type
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of liberty, you know,
10:13
because it's a passion within the liberty, you
10:15
know. And the most important thing
10:18
is the truth that we
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utter, you know. So when you find people
10:22
that stick to them things that it kind of
10:24
resonates to everyone. And that's why
10:26
we say one love, you know.
10:28
Yeah, because that became more than music. It transcended
10:30
the music. It became a global movement, absolutely,
10:35
yeah. And it's a god movement.
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You know.
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It's funny that you said that I was
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watching the documentary, and I kid
10:43
you not, I'm not being
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funny. I thought I was
10:47
looking at Jesus man. I literally
10:50
was looking at Bob like this is what
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I.
10:53
Think Jesus looked like seeing
10:55
and with Rastafar eye you
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know, that's really.
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The way of life.
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And it's and.
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Why we why we resonate
11:04
like that, and why we have this consonance
11:06
and and this presence is because
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of the Old Testament and.
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As Rasta for people who try to follow.
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The naza right vowel that we have the Nazarene
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and yes, subscribes himself as a naz right. So
11:19
we we try or or or
11:22
daily life as much as we can. We're not perfect,
11:24
you know, but our daily life is to follow
11:26
that order. And it's a Nazara, it's
11:29
a nazer right vowel. You know we were
11:31
relax.
11:31
You know, there raise on.
11:33
Your face certain things, what you eat
11:35
and this so Roster's
11:39
we catch with shrimp every now and
11:49
those everything you go through as you growing up,
11:52
you're not supposed to eat that, you know, that's
11:54
the kind of so you you
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as raster fire people, as Jamaicans
11:59
in Jenner, we make fun of what you
12:01
eat, your rasta,
12:04
don't do this, don't do that, and then you
12:06
have to and then again with the Marlin name,
12:08
with that Rastafari, it's
12:11
double.
12:13
You must have never had a glissy before in your life,
12:15
right, what's that?
12:16
Frank? What's that.
12:22
I can't say that.
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I can't.
12:34
Based on what you're saying about, like it's
12:36
double for you. Did it ever feel
12:38
like a burden the legacy
12:41
that that was like put upon you
12:44
and your and your siblings.
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I would never see a burden because it's
12:53
really the I would never see a burden
12:56
because it's really the way of the truth, you know,
12:58
and it's really discipline and
13:02
just wanted to keep your father's ways. So
13:05
it's really an alignment and proud
13:08
of it because you
13:10
know, we all, you know,
13:12
read the Bible, we all do these things.
13:14
So if you can find a way of life that's
13:17
alignment towards that and
13:19
as a culture is a lifestyle which is
13:21
such we're proud of that, you know.
13:23
So it's never a burden.
13:25
It's a lesson and it's a way of life
13:28
and it's the way we choose to live and the way
13:30
we want to live because we feel
13:32
good about it.
13:32
You know.
13:33
So it's a goodness and it's like
13:35
the way of the lion, like
13:38
a king order.
13:40
Real self.
13:43
Now, I was watching going
13:46
back to the documentary, at one point Bob
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moved to London and
13:51
to this day, to this day, it's
13:53
a lot of Rastafaris in Jamaican
13:56
people in London. Is that when they when they first
13:58
started going there, when Bob went there the.
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Column No remember.
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Remember like World War two, Jamaicans
14:09
fought in World War two with the British
14:11
because you know said it's
14:14
it's you know, it's once underneath
14:17
the British Commonwealth.
14:19
Right, So Jamaicans travel there because
14:21
at one point before late sixties
14:24
seven, early seventies, Jamaicans
14:26
and need a visa to go to London. They did, right,
14:29
wow, so a lot of work and such
14:31
and such.
14:32
So a lot of four parents are in London,
14:34
you know.
14:35
You know, it was a regular thing for Jamaican
14:37
families to receive things from England,
14:40
like before America.
14:43
Drain our friend Dre he's from London. Yeah,
14:47
that's why.
14:48
That's Jamaican culture in London is
14:50
like really close that you
14:52
know, even as slang. So it
14:55
was and then again music in
14:58
general, you know, but my father
15:00
went there.
15:02
With like intention to make music
15:06
like.
15:06
Really an exile because of the assassination
15:08
attempt.
15:09
To exit this album right yeah,
15:12
yes, yeah, you know you know remember you you're
15:14
very well studied, you
15:17
know.
15:18
Yeah, don't let me. I
15:21
got you. I got you pardon,
15:23
pardon, I
15:25
know normally drink what
15:28
we praising you. Today our show was about giving
15:30
people they flowers we want to give you. We
15:34
want to give your flowers. Right there
15:36
snoop like you
15:39
know what I'm saying.
15:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So
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on to drink Champs, to
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drink yes on this on
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this blessed day that's our Father's
15:50
days, the fire Right Day, our day,
15:52
People's Day, that's right, drink Camps day.
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We're giving thanks to the most izing period Magty
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Empire highlighted slas.
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Sometimes m
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h.
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I remember p Pardoner
16:09
drinking yes. So I
16:11
remember you know rappers
16:14
right seeing having we're having
16:16
a love hate relationship with our city
16:19
and we remember me thinking that that that's
16:21
something that's new. But I
16:23
remember seeing just now on an
16:26
interview where Bob was just done with Jamaica.
16:28
At one point he was like, man, I
16:31
ain't messing with Jamaica and I was like, damn, Bob,
16:34
we do the ship that I'm going through then, and
16:36
I'm like I'm like wow. And
16:39
that's where he went to London and that's when he started
16:42
went to South Africa.
16:43
Imagine this right, It's like I
16:47
watched like for instance, the movie and I'm
16:49
not going to refer to this movie because something just happened
16:52
to me in London was
16:55
Paris, you know, for the premiere,
16:58
and I'm watching that exact reference
17:00
that you just made in being told
17:03
in the movie, you know, and it made me very
17:05
emotional because
17:07
of what my father said and what he represents.
17:10
You know, it made me truly emotional because
17:14
here is the man where his gates
17:16
are open to every and everyone. He
17:18
came from nothing, you know, and everything
17:21
that he ever created or stood
17:23
for represent the people. Pardon
17:26
me, And here's this man
17:29
that's helping so much people and
17:31
the same people that you're helping, the
17:33
same people that you're fighting
17:35
to uplift and bring
17:38
together, allow
17:40
themselves to be manipulated by
17:43
a systematic way by politics
17:46
to feel that it's right to try and take a man's
17:48
life.
17:49
You know.
17:50
So that's really the
17:53
emotion of that. So when my father saying done
17:55
with Jamaica, it was.
17:57
In the moment he's never done with Jamaica,
18:00
you know what I mean, In the moment says
18:02
like it kind of it kind of screwed.
18:05
You know.
18:05
It's a rule for that, and
18:08
you know, so you take out a journey and
18:10
I sing some love songs. He's
18:12
like, you know, this revolution might be a
18:15
one month team.
18:17
You know what's ill about that is
18:20
when you look at the political history
18:22
in Jamaica, it's
18:24
like almost it's almost like bloods and
18:26
crips the politics and
18:29
a lot of the lot of the rest of the world. Like
18:33
I've seen you you see Randy Aka from
18:35
Depth jam Jamaica. Since I
18:37
did a video with Lexus and Wayne
18:40
Wonder and Tivoli Gardens, the most scaredest
18:42
I have ever been in my life, the most scaredest I have ever been. Like
18:44
literally, this was what
18:48
do you call it? Body mon Town Jarrison,
18:52
Like everybody had a gun on them
18:56
and I was like, and they told me, they said,
18:58
man, you're safe, but I was like,
19:00
I just didn't feel safe.
19:04
But still because nothing nothing
19:06
with you, right, I mean remember
19:08
Jimmy and people are people have principal
19:11
when they're being rued, they're ruted principal.
19:15
I go out, they told me against black Boy, you
19:17
know me that off top.
19:18
So was I landed in Jamaica. This lady she
19:20
came right over me. She she jumped over my
19:23
whole foot with the shopping cart and then
19:25
she looked at me like what I want, Yankee? Boy, you
19:28
got it?
19:31
Got laugh.
19:37
Anyone else I seen that, know more all over the place. I've
19:40
seen the Chinese Jamaican Oh yeah,
19:43
you know. And boy was he he was offended.
19:45
I was like, you we don't talk like that.
19:52
Years in
19:54
Jamaica, years as the Indian
19:57
Indian people. So we have for
20:00
fifth generation Chinese. And you know, so
20:02
a lot of my friends, you know, they look
20:04
like you and I they look like you.
20:07
You know what I mean?
20:08
And last thing one shout
20:11
out Waggy Tea here my
20:14
first turn off another Chinese Jamaican Jamaica.
20:19
Jamaican restaurants are Jamaican.
20:21
M VP records.
20:22
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah
20:25
big in the culture, super huge,
20:27
super huge. Tager bone is
20:30
real. Not
20:32
the way, not the way we tread it out. Yeah.
20:38
So you got you got this hotel, Like
20:40
I believe you're the only person I know that owns
20:43
the hotel. You you flost on me one night He's like, hey,
20:45
man, you know I got this hotel in Mexico.
20:46
You know me?
20:49
I was like that was that was an
20:52
entrepreneur.
20:53
He's an entrepreneur world and everything
20:56
you do in life. I believe in
20:58
opportunities, you know, and everyone
21:01
always say, oh, come, we don't have one in Jamaica.
21:03
I said, well, no one in Jamaica offered me, you
21:07
know, so I took the opportunity. And
21:09
it started long ago with
21:11
the same malikof relationship. And
21:13
it's the same partner as a five hotel group.
21:16
They were building a hotel and they wanted me to be a
21:18
part of it.
21:19
And you know, I take. I took a look
21:21
at the place that's the.
21:25
Right outside of cankun a place called Portamrellus
21:27
Okay, between Cankuon and Pli
21:30
Carmen, Okay. So like man, I'll
21:33
say, forty five minutes from touloum Okay cool,
21:35
twenty minutes.
21:36
From the airport.
21:37
Oh wow.
21:37
As he land in Kankuon, was right there, nice
21:40
beach protected area, the
21:42
reef is protected, the mangols are
21:44
protected nicely, the fishing village
21:48
and ninety two rooms and
21:50
you know, so it's a tiki very
21:53
so very so let's do. There's a great opportunity.
21:55
Opened in twenty twenty. It was
21:57
a skier with all the thinks
22:00
that were happening, absolutely, but
22:03
it survived and with the
22:05
help of a lot of my friends and I and
22:07
I that's supporting one in each other, you
22:10
know, spread the message and it got out there more
22:12
and you know, people seem to like going down there in Mexico.
22:15
And I like it too.
22:16
I absolutely love It's.
22:22
Yeah, tig up to Romary Beach House. Well,
22:26
it's really the fives and
22:29
Romary Beach House, you know what I mean. It's a collaboration
22:32
type of efforts.
22:33
Collaborative And had you been going to Mexico like
22:36
before that, Yeah, not
22:40
really not.
22:42
It wasn't my thing.
22:43
But I met these I met these brothers in
22:46
New York City in like early twenty
22:49
sixteen, and at the time,
22:51
I was really focused on Marty Coffee and I was trying
22:53
to build some coffee shops. So the
22:56
Brethren, you
22:58
know, hey, we're building a hotel. You
23:00
like to put one of your coffee shops in our hotel. So
23:03
I took the opportunity again and I said, yeah, I'd love
23:05
that. And then you go see this just to put the coffee in the
23:07
hotel. Yeah at first, Okay.
23:08
So they did that and then they said, you
23:10
know, we're building.
23:11
This hotel where we're going to open up a new project.
23:13
We're building a new hotel on the beach
23:16
in PORTUMARRELLUS. It's really a little
23:18
you know, it's a smaller hotel. Would
23:20
you like to you know, we don't know what to call it.
23:22
What do you want to?
23:22
What do you thought when you think about calling Roman
23:25
the beach House. We came with that name
23:27
because you know, it was on the beach, near
23:32
the beach.
23:33
It's on the beach.
23:35
It's academy on the
23:38
Caribbean. Yeah, man, So
23:41
we love it down there, and it's really nice
23:44
because when you think about Mexico
23:46
and then place, you have to think about Africa and
23:48
Afro Mexico because.
23:50
From the early times after all mixed. And then I learned
23:52
a lot too, because I learned that
23:55
when I found myself in Mexico. I started to realize
23:58
that, wow, we're all part
24:00
of the I'maridian culture
24:02
from the early times, because that's
24:04
the Americas. So it's a part of the Caribbean.
24:07
So then I go again and look at Barbados.
24:09
It's right there, and that's everything. It's
24:12
part of the whole i'm
24:14
Aridian you know, this part
24:16
of the.
24:17
World, you know what I mean.
24:18
So it's just really extending the culture
24:20
and realizing that earth is a lot and its fullness
24:23
thereof so wherever we are, wherever
24:26
we go, it is home. And
24:28
we felt very good there and we feel at home in
24:30
Mexico as well like anywhere else.
24:32
That's yeah, man, I love it. I love Mexico.
24:35
Big up, big up to Mexico.
24:39
So when I when I researched,
24:41
like you know, the stuff that
24:44
I know about Rastafarian culture, it
24:46
brings you to Helly Selassie, which brings
24:48
you to Ethiopia. Right, what brings
24:50
you to Africa?
24:52
Right?
24:52
What is the correlation? And
24:55
we know all men come from Africa?
24:57
Right, but wise is
25:00
like Jamaica and Africa's relationship
25:02
like, so is it
25:04
be close to the highly Selassie?
25:07
Well, it started with Marcus Garvey
25:09
Marcus, that's right. And
25:11
then you know those early
25:14
times in general as cultural
25:17
people and the
25:19
history of Jamaica with like all of the Maroons,
25:23
the early Maroons who fought against the British
25:25
for their independence and never got conquered by
25:27
the Brits.
25:28
So we were always like rebellious
25:30
people, you know.
25:32
So during the time when Marcus
25:34
Goviy early I
25:36
said before the nineteen.
25:38
Thirties, when Marcus Govey was.
25:40
Healing and building his movement
25:43
in Harlem and throughout the world and
25:45
studying in England and traveling
25:47
the earth. Marcus Govey
25:49
learned about the crowning of the Emperor
25:52
highly s last in the First which would take place
25:54
in nineteen thirty. So Marcus
25:56
Garvey being Jamaica and returned to the Jamaica
26:00
and told the black people of Jamaica that
26:03
we black people in the Western
26:05
Hemisphere should look towards
26:07
the east for the crowning
26:09
of a black king, our
26:12
King, our Christ.
26:13
And our God Almighty.
26:15
So it says in Revelation that you will
26:17
be crowned king of kings, lords
26:19
of lords, concurrent line of a tribe
26:21
of Judah, elect.
26:22
Of God himself.
26:24
So when Marcus Govi said that, iron,
26:26
I know, as black people in the Western
26:29
Hemisphere, there's another brethren whose
26:31
name is Howell, who's really
26:33
started the Rastafari movement.
26:36
Leonard Howell. Don't
26:38
quote me on the exact name.
26:41
Google.
26:41
Yeah, you can find this name on the Google.
26:44
But then the movement started and then
26:47
we as black people in the Western Hemisphere
26:49
started to look towards Ethiopia.
26:52
The crowning of the King as our
26:54
God, and we started to follow that
26:56
the ways of Ethiopia because we knew
26:58
that now that me and Ethiopia
27:00
is the first place to really follow,
27:03
yes, as Christ. In four AD
27:05
when the Eunich met Philip and told
27:07
Queen Candace about this great man,
27:10
this great man that he met and blah blah blah
27:12
and such and such was Philip who was a follower
27:15
of Christ. And then he started Christianity
27:17
that time. Then, you know, so we as
27:19
rasta Pharai people, we look to Ethiopia
27:22
and that's the Orthodox Church, which is
27:24
the faith of Rastapharai, if you ever asked
27:27
about that. So that's when it really started
27:29
in nineteen thirty the crowning of
27:31
the King of Kings, and everyone knows
27:33
this in the world because every nation
27:36
was there that day and everyone
27:38
ad to kneel and bow to that emperor.
27:40
You know.
27:41
Yes, it was a two hundred and twenty fifth
27:43
lineage of King David
27:46
Seed of Jesse, and those two
27:48
hundred and twenty five kings are the kings that rule
27:50
the earth. So when we talk about
27:52
earth, we have to talk about the olden days
27:55
and the Biblical ways. So we follow
27:58
the King David strown. We
28:00
didn't follow Babylon thrown, which was always
28:02
trying to fight against King David Shroan,
28:05
if you know what I mean, Like you know all
28:07
the constantinoples, all
28:10
their Roman Empire, all
28:12
these guys that never stopped, you
28:15
know. So we have Rastafari
28:17
people. We represent King David thron
28:20
and that is highly Selastic thrown.
28:21
And that's how we come to say highest
28:23
Selassie is who we calls
28:27
in people. Majesty is what.
28:29
We call the Almighty God himself
28:31
and a living flesh. So that's how
28:33
we were able to like manifest
28:36
our flesh this way by that teaching
28:38
of this great man who
28:40
manifests the God within himself at the highest
28:42
order. So we believe upon
28:45
that and we live upon that. And those are where
28:47
we get our teachings. And those are the teachings
28:49
we follow. So other people have other teachings that they
28:51
follow. And sometimes you stumble,
28:54
like your teaching make it make you stumble.
28:56
This one keeps us more upright, I
28:59
didn't have while he was still alive? Right, who
29:02
classie? I wasn't
29:05
he still alive?
29:05
When I when?
29:06
When when people start to follow him in Jamaica.
29:08
His majesty is forever living, and absolutely
29:11
so. But his myjest is forever living.
29:13
You know.
29:13
Yeah, yes, I.
29:15
Think they they I think they did a study and they said
29:17
that his blood is actually related
29:19
to Jesus Christ.
29:23
Say, that's why
29:25
I mentioned to you the lineage of King David. And
29:28
then within that lineage there's two hundred and twenty
29:30
five king. And you have Abraham, Moses,
29:32
and you have Yes Sirs Christ himself, you have like
29:35
h like you
29:37
have Salomon, you have David and his
29:40
majesties are part of that lineage.
29:42
And that's why I talked about King David's thrown.
29:44
And that's same as Christ in his
29:46
kingly character, right, and Christ
29:48
in the flesh. So all the Christ, all
29:51
the Christ consciousness, the great kings of this earth,
29:53
who took on the Christ consciousness. Who
29:55
are the heads of this government?
29:57
Who have who have the shoulders of the almighty
29:59
God and the rule of this government with the
30:01
God law?
30:02
You know, the ancient Abramic law. You
30:04
know that's the law.
30:06
You know what I believe? Yes, look
30:09
like you don't look at me like that, girl. I believe
30:11
like in years to come, they
30:14
will talk about Tupac the same way
30:17
they will talk about like because when
30:23
you look at when you look at let me stick
30:25
with ball, when you look at the history of how he
30:29
did this, this was all righteous. This
30:31
was like you know, when you go look at all these interviews
30:33
and you go look at these everything
30:36
that he said something one time he said, they
30:40
love you so much they'll kill you. And
30:43
I was like, what the fuck because
30:47
love and hate is kind of almost
30:50
the same thing. But he said he said,
30:52
sometimes they can love you so much that they'll kill
30:54
you. And I couldn't distinguish
30:57
if he said they'll kill you like meaning
30:59
himself or all just that love
31:01
itself.
31:02
Like this is all biblical factual,
31:05
And you.
31:05
Know, he said something so important because
31:08
man himself, right, like we talk about
31:11
man. We're flesh, but man
31:14
have like an ideology, right, and
31:17
some men have good ideology and good dreams
31:19
that we tappen into a certain frequency. And
31:21
you talk about like Tupac, you know, but
31:24
we're not talking about Tupac that you see walking on the
31:26
street. We're talking about the two Pac that you see speaking
31:28
a thing, a saying as something.
31:31
And that's what each of us have as
31:33
beings in general. Right, because we have that
31:35
goodness that we're made from because we are made
31:37
from love and you have you have to
31:39
make love to produce that.
31:41
Damn. You got a lot of them out there. DMN
31:47
for real. You know, we know you
31:49
are here club, let's go.
31:52
Yeah, we love that, And it's
31:54
it's all what the ones have to say that we
31:57
try to like gravitate towards you know,
31:59
the man else and we finding good in each
32:01
other. So yeah, man, they're going
32:03
to talk about great ones that have had great
32:05
things to say and who always
32:08
wanted to uplift people. So that's
32:10
the real purpose, you know, with the upliftment
32:12
of people, you know, and when you're speaking that
32:14
yet now all the time, you know, some of the times it
32:17
kind of but the we're going to focus
32:19
on the good side of you, you know,
32:21
and that's what we all need to start doing now and
32:23
start focused on people goodness.
32:25
You know what I mean? People like too much, don't
32:27
fall I leave it up forness. Now.
32:31
Do you think do
32:34
you think the CIA was really like
32:38
like tapping into Jamaica like that, because
32:40
like when you see years later, right, you see Malcolm
32:43
X and then years later there's
32:45
actually studies that come out the show. Well,
32:47
Ceia set Malcolm X up and this
32:50
rumor has never been con form Can I ask you
32:52
a question?
32:53
Yes, o me, I'm
32:55
a you know, I'm
32:58
a tell of person where I watched
33:00
UFO.
33:02
I mean, that's what you are
33:04
about to say. It's amazing.
33:06
You can't even call it conspiracy.
33:08
They talk about it.
33:09
I went watching UFO since the early nineteen
33:12
nineties, you did so.
33:14
Anyway, when we.
33:16
Talk about Jamaica in general,
33:18
right, and we talked about trade
33:20
and waterways and entrance to
33:22
a certain system, right, the
33:24
stream, the stream of like from
33:27
how you have to travel into like
33:29
the money pool, right, you know, coming from
33:31
Africa down the street and blah blah blah, and
33:33
certain places that you have to hang out.
33:35
Right, So Jamaica is like the
33:37
little little small island is.
33:38
Right in that little you gotta pass that
33:40
place to get into the wealth, right,
33:43
the trades, the gates, it's the gateway.
33:45
Right.
33:46
So what happened in Jamaica
33:48
now in the early times when the British
33:50
Empire had a larger influence,
33:54
before this independence thing, you know,
33:56
it was you know, Jamaica was like.
33:57
A place where you really it
34:00
is not too much violence.
34:01
It wasn't now very in the
34:03
sixties, Jamaica was so peaceful
34:06
and lovely.
34:07
So when now the
34:10
whole communist movement began, you
34:13
know that thing.
34:15
And then the start now with the politicians,
34:18
when the independence came now and these two
34:20
parties started to mingle. One
34:23
was like they call him a socialist, which
34:25
was manly, and the other one was like, uh,
34:28
the prime minister, right, yeah, the two of them, the same
34:30
one that my dad, Michael Wiley and Edward
34:32
Siaga. So he was more like c
34:36
I that's right, you know, you
34:38
know, you know that. So
34:41
one though, I would say it was like
34:44
leaning towards like cubash right.
34:46
The Cuba wanted to make it to be New
34:49
Cuba, like even Jamaica
34:51
met with.
34:54
There were a lot of support there and then
34:56
the other personal So what happened was
34:59
when now the gun
35:02
trade begun for the destabilization.
35:06
They even had a gun court.
35:07
Yeah, because now you started flood the
35:09
place with guns and cocaine. But
35:12
this stabilization because they
35:14
got to destabilize the country because
35:16
of what's happening, because these people are
35:19
worried about these people having this control
35:21
because now you're messing with the horn,
35:24
right, you're messing with the money run right.
35:27
So if the if the Jamaicans become more
35:30
this way, then you're tapping into the Russia
35:32
people again where they're tapping into this
35:34
thing, and then these people are starting to
35:36
take too much control of this little home pry
35:38
here.
35:39
So that couldn't happen.
35:40
So the KGB was and so yeah,
35:42
that's the Russian, that's
35:45
the you know, the mafia, the
35:48
CIA.
35:49
Yeah and all that that.
35:51
This stabilization is when the violence
35:53
begun in the early seventies,
35:56
late late late late sixties. Now
35:58
what was the two parties j LP, DPNP
36:00
and JLP Jamaica Labor
36:03
Right Party and the People's
36:05
National Party. One color
36:07
is orange and the other one is green.
36:10
I grew up in a time where I
36:13
live in a place called Spanish Town. I'll never
36:15
forget this this when I know like
36:18
a Spanish person is like in
36:21
Spanish Town. So
36:28
let me tell you something.
36:30
This one.
36:30
I kind of knew, like my heart, like I
36:33
kind of knew I was like a good person. I
36:36
just know, I knew I was a good human being. I
36:38
think I was like ten years old and
36:41
I remember it's like it was like political
36:45
times like very strong
36:48
politics.
36:48
Right.
36:49
So these people tourists, they were driving
36:52
along this main road to get
36:54
to like Montiga Bay, and
36:56
if you did not put up the sign
36:59
of which hard to you represented
37:01
the people, they throwing stones at your car.
37:04
Oh.
37:05
I remember watching.
37:06
It, right, because that area
37:08
was a labor right area and I live in the midst
37:11
of everything, and I remember watching
37:13
this, and I remember seeing the bridge and them throwing the stones,
37:16
and I remember to my heart, I'm like, but
37:18
those people don't know nothing, Like it's
37:21
my little self.
37:22
I'm like wow. So that's when I realized
37:25
if people don't have no brain, they don't
37:27
have they they
37:29
don't know this is what
37:31
is this? It don't make no sense, you
37:34
know. So that's what happened.
37:36
And that's what the stabilized the country's
37:38
guns and foolishness of politics.
37:41
Because even when Marcus Garvey in the early times,
37:43
when Marcus Garvey was running for prime minister
37:46
of Jamaica, what they said
37:48
caused him not to be the prime minister. They
37:51
went and offered to Jamaican people free
37:53
rice and peace. People
37:57
love them, belly, it's
37:59
never heard this one really rice
38:03
and peas. So it
38:05
was offering It's a big thing in Jamaican. This
38:07
is Sunday Sunday.
38:10
Every Jamaican and every Jamaican
38:12
eat rice.
38:13
Some peas on Sunday, right, rice and
38:15
bes on chicken rice and be on this rice
38:18
and bes on that.
38:19
So it's a big thing. I've
38:25
never been stuck for. By
38:27
the way, who has the best rice and peas? Puerto
38:29
Ricans Jamaicans? Hey,
38:32
man, no,
38:34
no.
38:35
Hold on, you have rice and beans?
38:37
Yes?
38:37
Oh ship damn good point. Good
38:40
point. Did not realize that who
38:43
still got the best?
38:45
You know, when I go to Puerto Rico, I
38:47
eat rice and beans, man, you know, you
38:50
know when I'm in Jamaica, I
38:52
eat rice and peas, man.
38:53
So I never had them side by side. Yeah,
38:57
that's called up. Holy
39:01
I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it.
39:04
But listen, Haiti is not in the category Nodus
39:11
bro bro I've been seeing because I'm ain't
39:15
even trying to throw they they had in
39:17
the ring with the rice and peace that
39:19
got great rice and can't
39:21
take somebody. Hey, let me tell somebody, ship
39:24
Haiti.
39:25
Now, Haiti, you see
39:27
what there is a see cuisine
39:29
wise because well
39:31
not because off, but the
39:34
mixture with the French.
39:35
Ye see
39:37
what I'm saying. But there's no there's no Haitian vegan
39:40
food. Uh.
39:51
First boys, Nico and my first daughter
39:53
eat and Haitian. He come
39:56
bar and pressure on viill Yeah.
40:06
Eighties.
40:07
Oh man, what's
40:10
your favorite place to visit on
40:13
your spirit time? Like? For
40:15
what? For anything? Like I
40:17
have different things I think about, Okay, for
40:20
vacations, for vacation, vacation.
40:22
Okay, Well you know I love the most.
40:24
I love the ocean, you know, m So
40:26
I like going places where from vacation.
40:29
You said, not not that Sabbaticos.
40:31
Yeah, you're not right. Just
40:34
to relax, relax and hang out. That's a big
40:36
world. You want to ask you're going
40:38
to meditating
40:42
stuff? Good stuff? Well,
40:45
like let me see, Like, for instance,
40:47
I love going to Roman beats.
40:49
Of course I love that. This
40:51
year I had a chance to visit Barbados.
40:54
Barbatos, what's Brianna out there?
40:56
Man? Rihattas is like she
40:58
wasn't there, but you felt you.
41:00
Know that, believe
41:04
it.
41:04
Even though I'm not to leave, believe whatever.
41:12
He tells. I believe you call it bro no,
41:14
but for sure we had us right like
41:16
I was there.
41:17
I was into the red us vibe because she put
41:19
the place like from
41:23
tourism perspective, it's, you know,
41:25
people want to visit and because they want to see where
41:27
she lived because it's very nice and the people love
41:29
her so much.
41:30
So I love, I love, I just first time going.
41:32
There for like like
41:35
some business thing like a finn They called
41:37
it fintech like financial technology, some
41:39
something good good stuff. So that that
41:41
was out there a bunch of Caribbing people from
41:44
Latin Americas, but they just got out of the
41:46
British Yeah, yeah, yeah, the prime
41:48
minister wanted is a prime minister
41:50
know president right they broke away.
41:52
From Yeah,
41:56
everybody can't go independing now no, but
41:58
it's it's some of these guys got what they major labels,
42:03
man, Man,
42:14
listen, Haiti's still fifty fifty.
42:18
They were the first one.
42:19
I'm saying.
42:20
Yeah, they're still like
42:22
we don't know, we.
42:23
Shouldn't suppers because we
42:26
don't know if we should have.
42:28
You know that, and there he
42:31
has it. It's holding a lot
42:33
of money. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.
42:35
Port We go scratch our heads sometimes,
42:38
like we don't know why we still on this major label.
42:49
We definitely made your label, man,
42:51
Cuba become free. We were coming. We're coming,
42:53
broeh niggas you got some cube.
42:56
Your mother's Cuban, right, she was born in Cuba.
42:58
You know.
42:59
I got a lot of Cuba family and you
43:01
know my girlfriend and Cuban.
43:02
I noticed you, he said, Cuban rice and peace.
43:04
Though we don't say rice, and people say
43:08
you don't you about
43:12
food is good when
43:16
I go to the house, when I go to the house of family,
43:18
look me up nice.
43:20
Honestly, the Caribbean food is pretty much the same
43:22
thing, bro, We just call it different names.
43:24
Well, this we all plans
43:26
it.
43:26
We like we all. Ma Marita
43:28
is also Cuban. I'll
43:31
tell you this.
43:32
This is a big difference.
43:33
Though. My son went to Cuba.
43:36
Really he went to Cuban. Yeah, you didn't know that, oh,
43:38
with your wife right right right? And he called
43:40
me, he said, where's the
43:43
w dad. There
43:45
was no a c he did not it's
43:48
not its on scrib right
43:51
now. Yeah. I couldn't explain to
43:53
my son the ag this is a
43:56
few hotels everywhere, buddy, and
43:58
he especially not a was country
44:00
man.
44:01
He didn't know.
44:01
He had to learn that day to Cuba,
44:06
right, and we booked
44:09
the airbnb but I
44:14
don't know where this is going.
44:15
No, it's good, okay, but the family,
44:18
the family was there too. I
44:21
stayed with the family.
44:22
So one of them.
44:25
Let's go.
44:25
I'm churning on the veranda. So
44:28
I see the brethren pull up
44:30
in a little bicycle and he got
44:32
the bread. Oh wow, something
44:34
like what Bridgin?
44:36
What?
44:37
I said, you know you got I said, what brigand doing? He
44:39
said, Now you know they still do that where
44:42
the partitioner of the food. Yeah, they
44:44
still do that when they drive around and they give
44:46
you a certain bag of food.
44:49
Man. I was like, wow. Man.
44:52
So but it was cool with being
44:54
in Cuba and being
44:57
able to see that the people they're
44:59
amazing.
45:00
You weren't living in It
45:02
wasn't like that anymore. It
45:05
was a balance. So you can still
45:07
have that, but they still do, you know what I mean.
45:09
So it's very nice. But if you want
45:11
to see, like if you ever want to see some good
45:13
culture man and some good some
45:16
good architect gus go.
45:17
To Cuba and the
45:20
bubble and.
45:22
Also proves the point that Latinos
45:24
are of African descent.
45:26
Absolutely, there's
45:28
the culture that we have is all African descents.
45:31
A place in Porto Rico like that, Louisa. You have ever been
45:33
to Louisa. Louisa, everyone like
45:35
I'm light skinned, insidered like,
45:37
yeah, everyone is there, so it's Cuba.
45:40
It's definitely. Yeah. You know something though, I'm
45:44
one of those people were how about Columbia?
45:46
My bad? I mean, I've been there, Like
45:48
Columbia. I don't like to talk about it too much. Ship,
46:00
I'm sorry. Look at the face the
46:02
Columbia came up immediately he's
46:05
telling him, No, Columbia
46:07
too much.
46:09
I actually went there for themselves. Is
46:14
that what they call it?
46:15
No, I'm
46:18
barn from going to Columbia. Nothing
46:22
nothing, nothing bad. That's things that could
46:24
possibly happen. It happened, things
46:27
that keep
46:29
yourself out the way of trouble. Okay,
46:33
So I tried to stay away from Columbia.
46:35
Okay, you
46:37
went to me, Yeah, is beautiful.
46:40
But but when when I did visit. While
46:43
I was there, I did go
46:45
to like the Corona Communia
46:48
thirteen, I went there, the
46:50
Calera, Yes, the sites stay
46:53
I visited.
46:55
You know only two people I ever ragged about
46:58
stairs No, because tell
47:00
me we're really happy.
47:01
No, no, right,
47:05
no bragging. What
47:12
we talked about it.
47:15
There's the slums of.
47:17
The higher you go into the mountain in the hills is
47:20
the more poor it gets. What they
47:22
did in this neighborhood, this neighborhood
47:25
was violent as hell just long ago.
47:28
But they put escalators so that
47:30
they can have access to people in the slums
47:32
down to the main area to just do
47:34
regular things. I've never seen change
47:37
their lives. Is in the graffitis everywhere. Beautiful
47:39
graffiti, our colors,
47:42
yeah, I mean colors, like the buildings
47:44
are beautiful. Everything is just beautiful
47:47
there.
47:47
Yeah, all of it.
47:49
You walk up and down the steps, it's
47:52
it's literally, it's it's it's it's
47:55
escalators in the hood.
47:57
Bro, it's
47:59
a lot of walks beautiful,
48:03
all right.
48:06
He's going going to a
48:08
tinky hut on the beach getting
48:11
out.
48:12
Listen. The other day, Diego was like, he's like, hey, man,
48:15
my girl said I should go to Columbia.
48:17
He said, I don't think we should.
48:23
Were you suggested?
48:24
No?
48:26
If you've been to some bad things. Man, y'all
48:28
going for different reasons. You don't say, y'all, I
48:31
have not been to Columbia. O you my condo.
48:36
I have fun. I didn't have the egle
48:39
type of fun.
48:39
But I had some fun.
48:41
Man, then then life calm down,
48:43
and then life calm down. Okay, beautiful
48:46
people there, man getting
48:54
back to sure sure please do
48:57
please do? I
49:01
always, you
49:05
know, like I said, I said it earlier,
49:07
I always felt something attached
49:11
to your father. And
49:14
there's people to this day, right, there's
49:17
people who see me who they see me on the internet,
49:21
they have never met me before, and they and
49:24
they'll come straight up to me and be like you'll know me and
49:26
just start talking to me.
49:28
And I realized this.
49:29
Person is infatuated
49:32
who who are over the fuck they see on the internet
49:35
And they starts talking like if they
49:37
know you, they have that for a minute they know, And
49:39
then you gotta realize that this guy is psychotic.
49:41
He does he knows he does he
49:43
does because he's pointing out shit.
49:45
He's like Episode sixteen. You remember this time. It's
49:48
kind of what we signed up for though we can't.
49:50
That's kind of what we signed up How many times
49:53
are people coming up to you wanting to know stories
49:55
about your father?
49:58
I see?
50:00
Really?
50:00
Really you see something you
50:03
see? Because I am I
50:06
don't know because I I
50:09
kind of walk wide, you
50:11
know what I mean.
50:12
It's kind of I don't know.
50:14
It's like I saw, like I'm all day like
50:17
doing the same things all the time, so
50:19
I don't pay attention.
50:21
You know, we've seeing that commercial the most interesting
50:23
guy on Earth, like your father was that guy.
50:25
Man, it's interesting guy without trying
50:28
were just heah yeah in facts
50:31
shooh. You know, it's been all my life. That's
50:35
why it'sn't about the burden. I didn't
50:38
mean it in a battle. I'm just saying it's it's a big
50:40
thing.
50:41
No, but no, like what what Bro's
50:43
saying in regards to like how many. I mean,
50:46
you know it is it's like now, like
50:48
you know, I did this yesterday, not like that,
50:50
but it was another bop thing yesterday.
50:52
And then when I was born, it was a Bop team.
50:54
You know what I mean. It's always been a Bop tam.
50:57
It's like all your whole life, so you know
50:59
what I mean, because especially all the money is yeah,
51:02
you know what I mean. Then as when being
51:04
that he left earth when we were nine years old
51:07
myself someone brothers, Wow,
51:10
yeah, nine years old.
51:13
He was thirty Yeah I said.
51:14
I was ten.
51:15
I was nine yet thirty six, wow, yeah,
51:18
nineteen eighty one, I'm born in seventy
51:20
two. So yeah, but when he
51:22
left earth when we were nine years old, we
51:25
had to learn from other
51:27
people too, you know, and learn
51:30
from his friends some of his things in Blasi
51:32
Blasi. So it became like, I
51:35
think that we love to talk about also
51:37
because it's a remembrance and
51:39
so we like to tell the stories about our dad too
51:42
because not yeah, we love it. So it's like
51:44
I can't even calculate it because it's like a fun
51:47
thing, you know, like, yeah, man, Maama,
51:49
you know something about her dad, you know, so if
51:51
you know something, tell me what you know what?
51:53
Tell me? We're intrigued like that.
51:55
Yeah, because he's truly,
52:00
truly was a prophet.
52:01
He truly was like of
52:03
this hearth, but not
52:05
of this earth.
52:06
Like but you see, go back to the christ
52:09
consciousness thing again, where you know,
52:11
like we say, like, you know, it's the same thing
52:13
you say, Yeah, we're fleshical people, but
52:15
we have a higher consciousness where we try to
52:17
seek a higher way of life, and
52:20
that way of life is coming out of this whole
52:22
ether system, you know. So
52:25
our father was able to tap that and
52:27
unbeknownst to us, not knowing
52:29
the meditation that he's dealing with
52:32
and the vibration of these links we don't know,
52:34
you know. So you
52:36
know, the man they believe in greater existence,
52:40
you know, believe that we all can
52:42
unite, you know, truly, like that's
52:44
like a truth, that's like a real
52:47
it's a real thing.
52:48
You know.
52:48
It's not like, oh, man, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, man,
52:50
it can happen, you know, So
52:53
you truly believe that and live that.
52:55
And he was just.
52:55
Connected to the source, and that's
52:57
the same thing as we as human beings. Our
53:00
goal is try to find the source and connect
53:02
to it, you know. So we just and
53:04
then that's how we get his majesty again because
53:07
we as his children, I say, wait
53:09
a minute, we
53:12
got to find a root of that.
53:14
And the root is Rastafar, right, so
53:16
you know, so it's like.
53:18
A channeling and how because
53:21
this great man is like you just talk about,
53:23
yes, as Christ and the great
53:25
humans that just walk this earth,
53:28
it's like we channel that, We
53:31
channel that energy. And then
53:33
because we know it's real because our
53:35
father, we see tap into that even
53:38
just by how we walk. And that's the
53:40
scent just like growing up and it's
53:42
the scent of him. You know, like you
53:44
know, a certain way and what he's connected to
53:47
in just the way and what he is, you know, in
53:50
regards to like growing
53:52
up living next to the priests from
53:54
the Inthuopian Orthodox Church because His Majesty
53:56
sent them to Jamaica and they
53:59
lived in the same yard that my father lived
54:01
in. My father gave him residency, you know,
54:03
so he took care of the church, you know.
54:05
So it really it was a man
54:08
like that connected the father
54:11
said, and the Holy One, you know, is
54:13
that really mine that desire that you
54:15
know? So yeah, so
54:18
like you say, you know, it's really talk, but
54:21
you know, I want to sound like you
54:23
know, trum my son, I believe the same thing
54:25
you're saying. Bro, it's
54:28
real, trust me. I remember I capp
54:30
into that truth just like that. Yeah,
54:33
because I remember having a conversation with Pun's son,
54:35
right.
54:37
And we're shooting the terminology videos,
54:40
Terminology record me Pun's
54:42
son, and term is on, and I remember
54:44
me talking to pun Son and
54:47
me talking to him if
54:50
he was his father's friend, and me not realizing
54:52
that this is Pun's son, and pun
54:54
didn't really get to spend a lot
54:57
of time what a sure.
55:00
I remember me immediately saying. I was talking
55:02
and I was just like, holy shit, because
55:04
I'm talking to this shit about his father
55:06
and I'm like, hey, me and him do this, and I'm
55:09
looking at him like holy shit. He doesn't really know,
55:12
so you know what I mean, Like, is
55:15
that something that you ever went through?
55:19
Hmm?
55:21
So as
55:24
a young boy at nine
55:26
years old in Jamaica, right, it's like you're fifteen
55:28
and a man eighty, you
55:31
know what I'm saying it, So we
55:34
have spot memory like the
55:36
times that we have with our father was you know, the times
55:39
you know, and then you know and then
55:41
it's like he lost some time. Actually, because
55:44
even recently I had a dream of my dad recently
55:46
and I don't really dream him that much vision
55:48
him in my dream, you know. I think
55:50
it's one of the first times I think, I'm
55:52
not even sure, maybe two times in my.
55:54
Life because you know how it is.
55:57
It's not easy, you know, so we
56:00
live it and meet within us, so you're like seeing
56:02
yourself all the time. But like you say, it's
56:05
it's really it's like
56:07
just a way of life, man, and really trying to make
56:11
sense of it, you know what
56:14
I mean, Because it's magic, Yeah,
56:17
it's real magic. And to see it and being
56:20
being around it, like wow, all
56:22
right, because the mind is like an excellent
56:24
type of being. You know, it's my father type of person
56:27
that you walk in this room and you just jump over the table.
56:30
Oh wow, like
56:32
you drive like a superhero.
56:35
So we see him like that.
56:36
So when when the friends tell you the stories,
56:39
he's like, he's the type of person like he
56:41
walk in he walk in the house and you see
56:43
you and the next minute you bring
56:45
the boxing gloves.
56:46
You know, wow, like circlub.
56:50
So that's yeah.
56:51
So yeah, it's like I ever
56:53
ever present. So we hear the
56:55
stories.
56:57
Because you know, as
57:00
as sons, you look up to your
57:02
father and you want to emulate your father. So
57:04
he tried to find all the little things about
57:07
him and learn as much as you can
57:10
and then you know, try to extend that because
57:13
at the end of the day, I'm fifty two
57:15
years old this year. My father passed you when I'm thirty
57:18
six, But I still see him as like WHOA, what
57:20
a big man? And when
57:23
you please my little brother today, you know, but
57:25
I still look at him like wow, you
57:27
know I still see him. Wow you think
57:30
that is I think I see him still as
57:32
that little nine year old. I think I
57:34
don't know because I still when I look when
57:36
I see a picture of my own my father,
57:39
I don't.
57:39
I mean, obviously I.
57:43
We live in the present, right of course, so
57:46
we will we you know, in your
57:48
own mind, you kind of talk to yourself for
57:50
how you would perceive a life with daddy
57:53
today.
57:54
You know.
57:54
But when I do see him, I don't see like
57:57
I couldn't, like, I just see
57:59
him as he's in these
58:01
all the same pictures, you know.
58:02
What I mean. I don't vision him the other way?
58:04
You know what I mean, because I heard jay
58:07
Z say that his kids didn't think he
58:09
was cool. Right, you
58:12
couldn't have never had that problem. You always had
58:14
the new was the coolest person on
58:16
the player.
58:19
Let let remember I'm young, so.
58:27
It's like a lion, and I seem
58:29
like a because he's the type of person when they talk
58:31
to you cry like I'm the type of person.
58:33
My day is over there. I'm over there, you know.
58:36
So you.
58:41
It's like, I don't know, I see
58:43
him like a superhero bigger than life,
58:45
like yeah, I when I'm seeing him, the
58:49
scent of him, like you can't even he's the type
58:51
of man like I remember one day he's
58:54
in the studio session and I'm
58:56
there late at the hopeful because i'm you know, I'm
58:58
supposed to be home, but I end up staying over here.
59:00
I'm late, and he's like, what are
59:02
you doing here?
59:04
I'm sitting here, dad, you know here.
59:07
So it's about I don't know, maybe one o'clock or
59:09
probably earlier, like twelve o'clock or something.
59:12
So I go into the studio and you know, the
59:14
studio of the glass here, and he's on the
59:16
board up there.
59:17
But you can't.
59:18
You can't fall asleep. You can't
59:21
fall asleep in the studio. You
59:23
can't.
59:25
That's my room too. You mean I
59:27
got that from I know, I
59:29
was great.
59:31
You can't like
59:34
on some weak stuff like you can't
59:36
be there like bobbing and ship.
59:39
That's so fucking flaw Holy
59:41
shit, send.
59:42
Me as a little boy. Now I'm sitting the tire
59:44
and so
59:48
I'm trying to kind of hide, but he see
59:50
me through the glass. It
59:52
says, hey, boy, go upstairs.
59:56
So I go upstairs now, and I'm laying in my dad's
59:58
bed because you know it's just his he got his
1:00:01
bed is in the office, his studio,
1:00:04
pressing plan.
1:00:04
Everything is right there, you know, his whole
1:00:07
system.
1:00:07
So I'm sleeping, you know, my
1:00:10
father probably come upstairs like five
1:00:12
thirty am.
1:00:14
Hey boy, get up to wash
1:00:17
your feet. That's
1:00:29
yeah.
1:00:30
So you see him like like when
1:00:32
you it's like, oh no, you
1:00:36
know what I mean, it's like, yeah, man, you
1:00:38
know, you seem like it's whatever
1:00:41
you're gonna do is like magic. And the stories
1:00:43
you hear about him, it's like the you know, you
1:00:45
do magical things. My uncle will
1:00:47
tell you here in Miami because I'm in nineteen
1:00:50
seventy six. It's when my family move here
1:00:52
in Miami. But my dad had
1:00:54
a renegade, a jeep. My
1:00:56
uncle will tell you. You know, sometime he drives the cheap
1:00:58
and he come into the yard. She is like
1:01:00
on one wheel. The way he fucking
1:01:02
turned that he's
1:01:05
He's like, you can't believe the things. You
1:01:07
can't leave the things that they tell you. Man, the
1:01:09
stories, it's like it's crazy,
1:01:12
like a real superhero. So
1:01:15
we see our father as a superhero, like
1:01:17
and we tried to you is a superhero. Yeah, So
1:01:19
we're like that's the way, like the
1:01:22
smell, that's the way he smelled. You know,
1:01:24
things he eats. How he You know, you don't want
1:01:26
to when you're young, you don't want none.
1:01:28
That ship.
1:01:31
Be ruit Irish Moss.
1:01:33
You know a lot of I tell food. Notice
1:01:36
we we dumpling. Well,
1:01:39
he was super disciplined in that way.
1:01:41
Yeah, man, But.
1:01:42
Sometime you know he's he'll
1:01:44
take you to Kentucky Chicken winter
1:01:59
time Sundays.
1:02:03
I'm gonna change it up a little bit. Once made
1:02:06
the mistake right me personally, a
1:02:08
bike riding with a famous
1:02:11
NFL football player named
1:02:14
Warren sat Now,
1:02:16
we'll go on these bike rides with Warren stack two
1:02:20
three times a week. I realized
1:02:22
he was crazy. I didn't realize how crazy
1:02:25
he was. One
1:02:28
day he goes, fuck these bitch ass
1:02:31
wires. We take it, Norrie, Let's
1:02:33
go to the South Beach. I don't take him serious,
1:02:36
but I'm like, okay, cool. We
1:02:40
go into Sunny House. I realized,
1:02:42
Oh, he's really going to South beat. I
1:02:44
can't bitch out or
1:02:47
you cross the bridge. Oh he's
1:02:50
a maniac.
1:02:52
By the way, Warren Savage my friend,
1:02:54
so I can say this. He has never left
1:02:57
the game. He's still on the
1:02:59
field. He was blocking for me.
1:03:01
Oh, I'm
1:03:04
feeling like I got a fucking football. You're
1:03:08
running back. He's
1:03:10
coping in front of the trucks.
1:03:11
I sweter, go, swearter, I'm
1:03:14
not as you read. An
1:03:16
Amazon truck pulled up on the side of us,
1:03:19
and he went like this. He
1:03:23
hit the Amazon truck. This ship shaped.
1:03:27
The two Amazon drivers come out,
1:03:30
They're like yo, and then they see this water on Saturday.
1:03:32
Fuck that.
1:03:35
They turned the funking around. I'm looking.
1:03:39
Warren is the man in the
1:03:41
streets. I'm on the bike. I'm
1:03:43
out of my league here.
1:03:44
Man.
1:03:45
I do not belong here, but
1:03:48
I can't turn back.
1:03:49
Now.
1:03:50
Different kind of bike ride, and I.
1:03:51
Don't got no charge you because it's an electric bike
1:03:53
and the electric is not working. I got no
1:03:56
electric bike. Yeah, snow
1:03:59
listen, and just we're gonna do nine
1:04:01
hundred miles. The electric don't count.
1:04:04
So we're going. We're going, and
1:04:07
he's like, hey, let's stop
1:04:09
for a pier.
1:04:10
What a beer?
1:04:13
I like this bike ride. We
1:04:18
wind up in your house. She
1:04:21
look, we want to live in your house.
1:04:23
I walked in his credit.
1:04:25
I don't understand. I didn't. I didn't remember
1:04:28
that y'all went to school together. I didn't remember
1:04:30
y'all my.
1:04:30
Best friend I remember that, so
1:04:33
I'm like, you am.
1:04:34
But by the way, if you didn't lived it,
1:04:36
I would have died.
1:04:38
It was out of everything.
1:04:40
Like this guy's a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
1:04:42
he's working out.
1:04:47
To go through traffic and it's not my ship.
1:04:49
I'm trying to just waiting over your head, trying
1:04:52
to fucking go fucking after the
1:04:55
Super Bowl, trying
1:04:57
to.
1:04:59
Bike man somewhere.
1:05:00
He's training for my head
1:05:02
with him. So he's like, yo, let's
1:05:04
go sweating. He's like, let's
1:05:07
go to I'm like, I'm
1:05:10
trying to find your number to
1:05:13
be like you just finally.
1:05:14
Excuse supposed to stay.
1:05:18
You'll thank you. I kid, you not warm. You
1:05:21
listen, if you're not ready to work out with a Hall
1:05:23
of Famer, I want
1:05:25
to get you incredible. Don't do it.
1:05:28
He's incredible because he's not gonna let you stop.
1:05:30
He's incredible.
1:05:31
That we went to your house. From your
1:05:33
house, we drank beers. I was like, I
1:05:35
was like, yoh, yeah, my battery was about to die.
1:05:38
I was using any excuse I call
1:05:40
my wife like like, I was like,
1:05:42
come and get me. You're
1:05:45
kid pro It was
1:05:47
not funny. I was
1:05:50
like, I say he was abusing man. I
1:05:53
was like, why.
1:05:56
I come?
1:05:57
I come? The next I was, I came,
1:05:59
like like why the electric
1:06:05
left the Then
1:06:07
first off, we went to Prome one twelve drank
1:06:11
and we went impact and I was like, I'm not
1:06:13
really big like this.
1:06:14
When you drink more prime.
1:06:17
I couldn't say no, do you understand? It's
1:06:19
like I just like exercise. I
1:06:21
felt like he was going to be like, shut the fuck okay.
1:06:26
I was like, yes, I
1:06:30
was out of war is a crazy
1:06:32
one. I seen him last night. Oh
1:06:34
my god, yeah you know, I
1:06:36
promise you.
1:06:37
Warren Sapp is probably one of the smartest human
1:06:40
meat that I have ever met in my life. This
1:06:42
guy is so intelligent, like bio
1:06:45
biologically, geographically,
1:06:48
philosophically.
1:06:50
No one was football like this guy.
1:06:52
No one.
1:06:53
He taught me about like American politics,
1:06:55
like he taught me American history. He
1:06:57
taught me so much about American culture and
1:07:00
here in America like when.
1:07:02
You first moved all the time, like
1:07:05
all the time, Like his history
1:07:08
is play football, yeah, but his his
1:07:10
knowledge, man is this man.
1:07:12
Teaches me so much about American
1:07:15
history. Like just like he's so
1:07:17
intelligent. Bro, it's well read well.
1:07:20
Like this guy. You you can't
1:07:22
increase this. You can't. I'm in college.
1:07:25
I want we were roommates.
1:07:27
Walked in the door, I walked into well,
1:07:30
we didn't have a dot and apartment.
1:07:32
It's you, am, but it's on campus.
1:07:34
That's right. Apartments from Miami
1:07:36
Ship real chilling, score
1:07:38
gables.
1:07:40
It's good.
1:07:41
Pole in here.
1:07:42
Something I don't know in my mind. The
1:07:48
seven ninth Street we went.
1:07:51
Let me say this anyway.
1:07:56
I walk in the dorm, I mean the
1:07:59
apartment I open and Sap is
1:08:01
there watching Jeopardy. I'm
1:08:03
like, you watch this ship. This
1:08:06
motherfucker's answering all the question. I'm like, how
1:08:08
do you know that ship?
1:08:10
Intelligent motherfucker part of my friends,
1:08:12
but super intelligent and as
1:08:14
well as a dominant like athlete.
1:08:17
This man.
1:08:18
You won't find him just sitting around. He's
1:08:20
fishing all the time, riding the bicycle, diving.
1:08:24
It's crazy, by the way, he's diving,
1:08:27
grabbing the fish under water, the
1:08:29
fish with the fucking thing. You know
1:08:32
what I'm talking about. He's
1:08:37
down there and
1:08:40
keep with you, quit,
1:08:44
quit and quit, want.
1:08:47
No more.
1:08:49
Right now? Big up to him too.
1:08:51
He does. He's not working with coach
1:08:53
on sand Let
1:08:58
me tell you something let me tell you something. If
1:09:00
you never rode in a bike lane and
1:09:03
he was slow in the bike lane, or you walked in the
1:09:05
bike lane, Warren Sap is
1:09:07
he come up on you like this, cout the fuck out
1:09:10
the bike like, yo, let me tell
1:09:12
you something. The whole ballwalk moves
1:09:14
out his way. It's like they got a time
1:09:17
that he knows. They know he come through.
1:09:20
You know the bike lan. You know you
1:09:22
know why he knows the law.
1:09:24
You know he's actually correct. If
1:09:26
you're going to wait, he'll yell at you like you're
1:09:28
going the wrong way.
1:09:30
He's like one of them type of guys where he's
1:09:32
like strictly law of biting,
1:09:34
Like he's proper, Like you
1:09:36
can't be walking in the bike
1:09:39
lan.
1:09:40
You know you got the right to be. You
1:09:43
see the sign.
1:09:44
But the first time I met him,
1:09:48
we was at a restaurant and he had a sign I swear
1:09:50
to guard in front of him that said.
1:09:52
Don't feed the animals. I
1:09:55
don't know what that ship meant.
1:09:56
When I stayed clear away from that ship, I was like, hey,
1:09:58
how you doing, Borro Sap.
1:09:59
I was like, I was scared to death. He's
1:10:02
a good guy. He's a good guy.
1:10:04
But he's he's really like always
1:10:06
himself proper, you know, but he's
1:10:08
always but you know what growing
1:10:11
up like how we grew up and thing and
1:10:14
all the things that people took advantage of, you
1:10:16
know, some of his situations, he
1:10:18
became very defensive of his circle and
1:10:20
who he lets into his space, because you
1:10:23
know, when when you're just living your life and
1:10:25
you end up in a situation.
1:10:26
What I mean, I mean, I thought we were just hanging out.
1:10:28
How come it led to that?
1:10:30
Right?
1:10:31
And then so them things them turned them guys
1:10:33
into more like like especially
1:10:36
so big too, like he don't like,
1:10:38
you know, he don't.
1:10:38
Know who's who anymore knows.
1:10:40
A Miami guy. He's a Miami
1:10:43
gud. Like everything about Warren is
1:10:45
Miami cut him. He bleeds
1:10:47
green.
1:10:48
Well, we do believe I am also orange
1:10:51
and gray yourself, I
1:10:55
also please orange and green. So
1:10:58
be careful because he played for of Riders right,
1:11:01
not in the CFL, in the c played
1:11:04
in Miami. Not football, not not
1:11:06
not football.
1:11:09
Let me tell you about my limitated times I played.
1:11:12
Okay, so I played here at
1:11:14
the high school, promic Senior high
1:11:16
school.
1:11:18
Big up to, big
1:11:21
up to, big up to.
1:11:23
Okay, okay
1:11:26
one our district district chimps. I was a linebacker.
1:11:29
I got a full scholarship at the University of Miami.
1:11:32
Wow. I
1:11:36
was red shirted my my.
1:11:38
Next year as a fifth fleeting tackle on the team.
1:11:40
I played the outside linebacker fifty
1:11:43
tackling team my sophomore year.
1:11:46
Since the call
1:11:49
right now, the fantasy what is it but
1:11:51
under that underdog fantasy fantasy.
1:12:00
So yeah, I led the team in tackles as a defensive
1:12:03
player linebacker and then
1:12:05
the rough Riders you're talking about. I went to the
1:12:07
CFL because I was kind of ineligible
1:12:10
to go to the NFL just because of.
1:12:11
My rude ways. So I got it.
1:12:13
I became ineligible. I was like a little I wasn't
1:12:16
particularly like just
1:12:19
do what you tell me type of guy I
1:12:21
got in trouble. Wasn't na Ganja, never
1:12:24
that. It was more like, why
1:12:27
you talk to me?
1:12:29
You see? You know what I mean?
1:12:30
So then a fire, you know, I mean, you can't talk
1:12:32
to me certain ways.
1:12:33
So it's kind of like, oh, he's uncoachable.
1:12:35
Not uncoachable, you just can't talk to me like
1:12:37
that. I'm growing, you know, I mean, I just that's
1:12:40
landing. So it did it did affect
1:12:42
my ways. But my son Nico, he
1:12:45
got a full ride to Tulane. He actually
1:12:47
he actually played the whole
1:12:50
preseasons for the Redskins. So
1:12:53
at Tulane he's like the top leading
1:12:56
tackler, top twenty in their history, number
1:12:59
one and then tagus for loss. He became a great linebacker,
1:13:02
so he superseded what I wanted
1:13:04
to do.
1:13:04
It.
1:13:04
So my children are better than me, obviously, all
1:13:07
of them, So I love that. But
1:13:09
yes, I was a linebacker and ray Lewis was
1:13:11
my middle linebacker. Warn't Stop was my d
1:13:13
line So I played them here. So
1:13:17
I taught ray Lewis what a team.
1:13:20
I can say that and
1:13:24
he would lock it up.
1:13:27
But obviously, absolutely
1:13:31
that's how it works.
1:13:32
If you, if you, if if
1:13:34
if if if I walk
1:13:36
in before you and you
1:13:38
walk in and see me sitting there, who are
1:13:40
you learning from? But
1:13:43
that's just how it is, because I'm
1:13:45
the man when we walked up in that school, I'm
1:13:47
the man, and I'm the best linebacker I ever
1:13:50
played at University of Miami.
1:13:52
Sir Ray, It's
1:13:57
the thing we have.
1:13:59
But obviously Leary Lewis is the greatest
1:14:01
linebacker ever played the game. But
1:14:04
but in college, in college, we're
1:14:06
talking about college. We're not talking about the world.
1:14:08
Were just talking about you. So
1:14:11
we're gonna put that up. We're gonna put that up.
1:14:13
Man in mano.
1:14:15
Okay, do
1:14:17
you what do you call soccer?
1:14:19
I still call it soccer.
1:14:21
You know, it depends who I am and depends
1:14:23
on my moons. I still call it
1:14:25
soccer, like it depends on to.
1:14:28
Stay in the hotel in Italy and
1:14:31
you said it was like what fucking
1:14:33
American?
1:14:34
I was like Jesus, like, they took
1:14:36
it by the way to the hotel.
1:14:38
I don't know if anybody could google this and send
1:14:40
me the link. It was a soccer
1:14:43
hotel. Yeah, so everywhere
1:14:45
you went it was TVs. Playing soccer. I was
1:14:47
freaked the funk out.
1:14:48
That's your later on I'm
1:14:50
talking about in the elevators. It's like
1:14:53
everyone a TV big game, big probably
1:14:55
a big game, but that I grew up playing that.
1:14:57
That's my sport. But you know what what
1:14:59
you better at soccer or football?
1:15:01
American? Well?
1:15:05
You see for me, you
1:15:08
know, I never became what I
1:15:10
wanted to become. As an athlete, I'm
1:15:12
a failure and as a I want
1:15:14
to be a pro. I really want to be a pro one
1:15:16
of these things.
1:15:17
I tried sports either.
1:15:19
I tried American football, but I wasn't disciplined
1:15:21
enough. Then no track and fail.
1:15:24
You know what when I you won't believe
1:15:26
this. I actually in my high school, I
1:15:28
have the record for the four by
1:15:30
one hundred relay.
1:15:32
I'm a part of that team. So I had some speed.
1:15:34
I did the high jump. Yeah,
1:15:36
I did the high jump.
1:15:37
That was my thing. So that's kind of my thing. So I
1:15:40
played that.
1:15:40
I did basketball.
1:15:42
I played that.
1:15:45
We don't believe you in a basketball tip at all. We
1:15:49
don't believe that.
1:16:11
Football.
1:16:15
Well, I wanted to be an athlete.
1:16:16
You know if I failed at being an athlete, I
1:16:19
really did. And I remember the day when I realized
1:16:21
that I couldn't be an athlete anymore. It wasn't
1:16:23
I had to give up on my dream. Because
1:16:26
after college, I went to be a roadie
1:16:28
with my brothers because I wanted to be amongst my brothers.
1:16:30
So I was a roadie, you know, I was like, you
1:16:33
know then I was trying to learn to be that. Then things
1:16:35
happened and some other things in life took
1:16:37
place. Then I went to Jamaica,
1:16:39
and I tried out for the Jamaica national team. I want
1:16:42
to be a soccer player, so I was working
1:16:44
my way up to like the club I made the Premier
1:16:46
League. One of the teams.
1:16:48
Let you go through, because you know, they don't do that.
1:16:50
They don't do that, they don't a bit hard
1:16:53
all they even know who I am. You
1:16:55
probably wanted it that way, but yeah, and
1:16:57
then again they look at me like, oh, oh,
1:17:01
you play American football. You don't know nothing about
1:17:03
this. So obviously I
1:17:05
got to prove a double prove. And then again I
1:17:07
am Bob's son. Then again, I'm a little older
1:17:09
than everyone else. Not everyone,
1:17:12
but I'm a little older because I went to college.
1:17:14
And so I'm like writing like that prime
1:17:16
age, you know, and it's a young youth thing.
1:17:19
So I was trying.
1:17:20
My dream was to play for Jamaica. I
1:17:23
didn't make it to play for Jamaica. Tore
1:17:25
my hamstring. Then I
1:17:27
moved to Miami. Then
1:17:29
I moved to Los Angeles and that's
1:17:31
when I got into business. And my brother, this is when
1:17:34
I got into business. My brother, Ziggy,
1:17:37
he asked me a question one day. He says, you know, let me
1:17:39
ask you something. What
1:17:42
do you want to do, you know, business or football?
1:17:44
Because I thought that after I rehabilitated
1:17:47
myself, I was going to move to LA and
1:17:50
try out for LA Galaxy.
1:17:51
That's what that's going to find.
1:17:54
The way I met one
1:17:56
of the guys, that's how I do things. I meet a
1:17:59
guy in the coffee shop. Hey man you oh yeah,
1:18:01
man, Hey, how I get a tryout?
1:18:02
Can you? That's how I do it.
1:18:03
It's not like some Marley thing. I gotta
1:18:06
go. That's how I That's how it works as
1:18:08
an athlete. It's not singing, you know what I mean.
1:18:11
He's singing.
1:18:12
So but my brother asked me a question and
1:18:14
says, listen, man, I see something. It's
1:18:16
gonna cost you eight thousand dollars to do
1:18:19
this collection you want. I
1:18:21
was designing tough gun clothing at the time,
1:18:25
so he said, business or
1:18:27
football. I gotta
1:18:29
make a choice. So in my mind, I
1:18:31
think I'm gonna like thirty one years old. So
1:18:33
I started to think about, like right then
1:18:35
not to make a decision. But what made me think even
1:18:38
faster was like, listen, I'm fucking
1:18:40
too old. These motherfuckers they're
1:18:43
gonna bench me. I'm gonna be frustrated.
1:18:45
They're gonna be some young motherfucker there. So
1:18:47
I'm gonna go through this frustration again right
1:18:50
thinking I'm better than the guy playing, and I'm gonna
1:18:52
go through that all over again as I can't.
1:18:55
As I can't go through it again, I'm like, I
1:18:57
did that, you know, I did? You know
1:18:59
that sports is like
1:19:01
that, man, So I had to choose business.
1:19:04
And that's when I became an entrepreneur. With that
1:19:06
ultimatum right there from my brother Ziggy, and
1:19:09
that's from like Tough On Clothing
1:19:11
starring Marley Coffee, Romary
1:19:13
Beach House. I got my own cannabis company out
1:19:15
line order that you know. It's
1:19:18
out of Michigan, Detroit there, So I'm
1:19:20
doing that. So I'm doing a lot of things.
1:19:22
And then for my family, I'm kind
1:19:24
of like the brand ambassador kind of business
1:19:27
development for the family. We
1:19:29
have House of Marley where we have the headphones
1:19:31
and everything Marley Family. I'm kind
1:19:33
of like one of the guys in
1:19:36
regards to the business side, so not
1:19:38
so much music, but all
1:19:40
of the like extended products
1:19:42
like these art goods or whatever we have here, some
1:19:45
of these things, but these things are lying order. What you
1:19:47
see me like to show off lie in order.
1:19:49
That's that's my thing, lieing order. Okay,
1:19:52
that's the brand.
1:19:53
We see the ring.
1:19:55
Yeah, this is just a black lion. The black client
1:19:57
is a king's right, So just we're the
1:19:59
black client.
1:20:00
You know.
1:20:00
We also see that automar perpetual too. We
1:20:02
also see that too, sir. Yes,
1:20:07
that's nice.
1:20:08
Let we talk about Root's luxury, like
1:20:12
like the time, and we like to tell a good time.
1:20:15
I'm taking that your
1:20:20
publisher, I get your publisher, you get, all
1:20:22
right? All right, okay, so you want
1:20:24
to introduce yes, yeah,
1:20:26
all right, We're gonna give you two choices. We're
1:20:29
gonna run down the list. You pick
1:20:31
one, we don't drink. This
1:20:33
is a drinking game, all right, but
1:20:36
if you say both. If
1:20:38
you don't pick one, basically we're drinking if.
1:20:41
If I don't get one, so I gotta
1:20:43
be truthful, right yeah, if you say one, then nobody
1:20:45
drinking. And then you know we want to tell story, all
1:20:47
right, you can tell anything.
1:20:49
Yeah, the choice. So this is what kind of game is.
1:20:51
It's called quick time. It's lone, but it's never quit. I gotta
1:20:53
be fast. No no, no, no, it's just fast.
1:20:58
Okay.
1:20:58
So we're going to start the first Oneac or d
1:21:00
M X.
1:21:04
Tupac just because of you know, you
1:21:06
know what, it's not fair to ask
1:21:09
some of these questions to me because I'm
1:21:12
always I'm
1:21:14
always about that, Like the older person is
1:21:16
gonna get the upper hand, right, So
1:21:19
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Tupac for age
1:21:21
preference not necessarily competitive
1:21:23
in regards to it, the.
1:21:25
Better lyrics better whatever,
1:21:28
nothing to do with that strictly
1:21:31
on age.
1:21:31
So Tupac, okay, rings
1:21:34
or bony again,
1:21:40
it just.
1:21:41
Jumps out of me.
1:21:42
What elder statesman and that these
1:21:45
are truth? But in what capacity?
1:21:47
Like it's whatever, it's for you, whatever
1:21:50
it is. They could be a personal connection, could be the
1:21:52
music, It could be anything.
1:21:54
Wow are you can say? You can say both? And we got.
1:21:59
The shot
1:22:02
ye shots
1:22:07
drink chips Okay,
1:22:10
okay, I.
1:22:10
Like this one. Naves Naves
1:22:13
or jay Z your
1:22:17
brother got the album with nas. Let's not forget no,
1:22:20
Dad, I just waited you
1:22:22
you you getting sucked up.
1:22:24
I'm drunk there we drinks jumps
1:22:26
some drunk. I can't think
1:22:28
straight. I can't
1:22:30
think z.
1:22:40
You know, in
1:22:42
life you have relationships. Yeah, that's
1:22:45
why.
1:22:45
People say sounds
1:22:47
like we're taking another shot.
1:22:50
This is this is not right. Whoa
1:23:01
that ship?
1:23:02
That ship?
1:23:02
They will frighten you that fucking
1:23:05
the horn. It's like taking
1:23:07
mushrooms. It's
1:23:11
just like mushrooms.
1:23:14
This is my drink.
1:23:15
Chams are drunk chat. So
1:23:20
you know we're gonna go with.
1:23:22
Jay Z.
1:23:25
Let me go board just for cheer.
1:23:30
This one is a good one. Oh yeah, this is
1:23:33
by the way, I just wanted to let you know, we
1:23:36
don't do it. Don't
1:23:38
make it. It's the Colorbia and Dominicans
1:23:40
right over there. You know they make up these questions.
1:23:42
The Columbia right there and the Dominican
1:23:44
right there. What they do is they study you.
1:23:47
Let me let me make something clear here, okay, because
1:23:50
I'm because I'm an, I just want to
1:23:52
make.
1:23:52
This truly clear. Very let's
1:23:55
be clear. You see
1:23:57
me with my locks and.
1:23:58
Everything on, so you know me, I'm
1:24:00
a RASTAFARII but be clear on
1:24:02
this. I'm an entrepreneur, that's right.
1:24:05
So I do a lot of taste testing. See
1:24:09
where you go, uh,
1:24:11
spend some time in Jamaica
1:24:14
and the knefield. You
1:24:16
know, they they had a rum.
1:24:19
So I did a taste test. So
1:24:22
I'm gonna call this a taste testing exactly
1:24:24
what it is. Don't don't, don't think there's
1:24:26
something regular. This is a taste testing. Taste
1:24:28
test? What do we taste testing here?
1:24:30
What is this? This is got
1:24:32
some right?
1:24:33
That's okay?
1:24:34
All right, well, I hope I'm gonna answer all these other questions.
1:24:36
Because we're not on It's not for
1:24:39
my health. I'm
1:24:41
gonna start picking answers here. Ready,
1:24:45
Yes, you got a super cat or Sean
1:24:47
Paul Battle?
1:24:49
All right, super Cat? Right now, I'm going
1:24:51
like age. I'm not going
1:24:53
age first, so remember
1:24:56
that you got it, I got it.
1:24:58
Let me take this one because I got a record.
1:24:59
I love the guys the
1:25:02
way if I drink, if I say one, no
1:25:04
one drinks. No one drinks.
1:25:06
Wait so wait, well y'all, wait, this is not fair.
1:25:09
You're too small.
1:25:10
But if
1:25:12
you say both and neither, we drink. Drink No,
1:25:15
there has to be a time. Okay, we drink
1:25:19
like drinking like that has
1:25:21
to be there has to be some scenario. Yes,
1:25:24
were you fellas man?
1:25:27
Okay, don't drink me.
1:25:29
Okay, we're going figure this out, but let's
1:25:31
just move on from now.
1:25:32
Bounty Killer O Beadie Man you
1:25:36
guys watch versus Yeah, who
1:25:38
did y'all choose?
1:25:39
And we chose we chose to. I mean,
1:25:41
you get the police out of there when the police showed up,
1:25:44
said police, fin get out of the yard.
1:25:46
I think bounty.
1:25:48
I'm gonna go both.
1:25:49
Go they both.
1:25:52
I can't remember Jamaica run. I don't
1:25:55
know.
1:25:56
He said both.
1:25:57
He said both. Wait, wait, he
1:25:59
said, twisting me up.
1:26:04
Out.
1:26:05
Hey man, you can drink some roots
1:26:07
right here. This is what I'm drinking. This
1:26:12
is all right, fine, let me let me do
1:26:14
this. I'm gonna win.
1:26:19
I'm gonna win for real, all
1:26:24
right. Next one is yeah,
1:26:27
shot us of belly you.
1:26:30
I know what. That's easy. I'm gonna
1:26:32
shot this. Yeah, you're
1:26:36
gone too far. Now,
1:26:41
you're gone gone. Next
1:26:44
one should be easy loved in in Miami, Miami.
1:26:49
Yeah, that should have been easy.
1:26:51
Have been easier.
1:26:52
Come on, what do you mean just just
1:26:54
came from now then I'm here in Miami now.
1:26:56
Yeah, big up?
1:26:57
What else?
1:26:57
What I say?
1:26:59
Yes? And the police still don't
1:27:01
got London?
1:27:03
In London they got guns now they
1:27:05
do upgraded. I think they got guns now,
1:27:07
bro ship, I didn't
1:27:09
see any police.
1:27:10
Because they got drill rap. They
1:27:12
got drill rap rap
1:27:16
over here too, Yeah, police got
1:27:18
guns all right? The
1:27:20
next one, I can't see you. Ok,
1:27:24
this is me, but I think I think
1:27:26
he might be. Let's figure it out. Jerk
1:27:30
chicken or carry chicken, he
1:27:33
jerry, he said, they went to let
1:27:38
me see how I get y'all to drink. Now, let me I'm
1:27:40
gonna drink. This one answers, I'm
1:27:43
gonna I got you. He's
1:27:45
like, I'm gonna get you. But
1:27:50
this this is a very chicken jerk chicken
1:27:52
or yeah, all right?
1:27:53
When I was young, because.
1:27:56
You don't have a jerk pan at your house, right,
1:28:00
you don't have a jerk pan, So it's
1:28:02
like it's a.
1:28:03
Pan that's just what you just stays this just
1:28:05
to make the jerk. It's tough.
1:28:07
This is a you know what if you don't find the right
1:28:10
guy when this is when I'm young, because
1:28:12
if you don't jerk the chicken certain way, it hurts your belly.
1:28:14
And we know what happen when you hurt your belly. But
1:28:17
because curry chicken, no, it's
1:28:20
so many yet, like for dinner at your
1:28:22
house, so we're not for goo with curry
1:28:24
chicken. I didn't even though I don't
1:28:26
eat chicken.
1:28:28
That's right.
1:28:30
That's because as a youth. I'm not talking
1:28:32
now. I'm not saying when I was young how
1:28:35
to eat curt because that's why I ate more. I hate a lot of
1:28:37
curry chicken. Man, that's what cook for dinner.
1:28:39
You know. I just got to ask you this, if you ever
1:28:42
ate the coconuts out here in
1:28:44
Hollandale, what was it? Mayor Mark?
1:28:47
They got? They got vegan. I
1:28:50
thought you meant the fruit. No, no, no, no coconuts.
1:28:53
I want to find out. It's my spot. I
1:28:55
want to find out is it really into the yard? Mancos
1:28:58
on it?
1:28:58
And then I sell something, y'all ink and water? Are
1:29:00
you taking shots? Were drinking?
1:29:02
Because you never had coconuts?
1:29:05
Okay?
1:29:05
You never had being. I
1:29:09
just feel like i've seen you there something Maybe
1:29:11
maybe hey, maybe maybe may the
1:29:14
store is a real yard. Yeah yeah, okay,
1:29:17
good food, great food. Maybe
1:29:19
I should maybe give me the address. I like
1:29:21
to excuse I love coconuts. I haven't been in
1:29:23
a while. Still order this is
1:29:26
this is this is an easy one
1:29:28
for you. Reggae or reggae throng. Good?
1:29:39
I mean.
1:29:42
I got cuman girlfriend, man, man,
1:29:45
we got reggaeton, reggae,
1:29:49
reggae, reggae, reggae, reggae.
1:29:53
Reggae based upon me, Okay,
1:29:56
just me in general, Biggie
1:29:59
or big L Biggie or
1:30:02
who big L.
1:30:04
Big big L?
1:30:05
Who's big L?
1:30:06
We could move on there, maybe
1:30:09
I know arlam. Yeah, showing
1:30:12
the court down with camera on them original.
1:30:13
I'm not good at that. Okay, I'm not I'm
1:30:16
going from that. I mean, I'm not good
1:30:18
at that one. I'm I'm in college,
1:30:21
man, I'm like, I'm a football player, bro,
1:30:24
I'm like, I'm not even thinking about this stuff.
1:30:26
You know what we played when I was in college, them
1:30:28
boys from Texas.
1:30:29
They used to play.
1:30:30
Ghetto boys, ghetto boy and the big album
1:30:32
was when Drake Chronic Chronic
1:30:35
first and then when Stoop Dogg.
1:30:37
That was like yeah, that
1:30:40
was like an album.
1:30:40
Like everyone was like you got I
1:30:42
remember chasing, I remember driving to places just
1:30:45
to get that album.
1:30:45
So just so because in my college
1:30:48
that was a culture. Ghetto boys.
1:30:53
Saw me. Yeah you got the next three, go for
1:30:56
it. Cap Sizzler was
1:30:59
this what
1:31:01
kind of questions is a trick question? You
1:31:05
know, it's been question came to the
1:31:07
sil question. That's a trick question,
1:31:10
give my give my shot. I
1:31:14
like, I like the shot I do.
1:31:17
I line up a mixed no problem we're doing,
1:31:21
don't go both? Yeah? Look
1:31:24
answer boat.
1:31:28
Wow, y'all foul for this one, bro? You putting
1:31:31
the family against each other? All
1:31:35
right?
1:31:36
Stephen Morner, Damien Marning, that's
1:31:45
the yeah.
1:31:46
I came in here on one love.
1:31:53
A shot.
1:31:53
You we got?
1:31:55
You know what, y'all did everything shot like that, y'all.
1:31:58
You know what you're gonna make you listen,
1:32:03
you said it earlier. It got to be us
1:32:05
around with. It's just us.
1:32:10
Based on disrespect.
1:32:13
Right about that?
1:32:14
That was respectful? Oh?
1:32:16
I like this one. Yell in trouble man. We're talking your
1:32:18
pay crazy
1:32:21
Marcus Garvey or Malcolm X.
1:32:24
Wow? Wow, all
1:32:27
right, so Malcolm
1:32:29
X is born. I'm sorry.
1:32:32
I'm born on Malcolm X birthday May
1:32:34
nineteen, whereas we so obviously I love
1:32:37
Malcolm X. But growing
1:32:39
up I learn more about Marcus
1:32:41
Garvey as a Jamaican and it's when
1:32:43
I came to America, really I started learning a lot
1:32:46
about Malcolm X, you know, and
1:32:48
you know that just for
1:32:50
myself. So it'd be like Marcus Garvey
1:32:53
just because of popularity and the
1:32:56
movement to rastify a movement, and
1:32:58
those all the things I've said before. You know, I've read
1:33:00
his books and such, not a lot of his
1:33:03
books. I'm not going front, but I've
1:33:05
read some stuff.
1:33:06
So Marcus Garvey, okay, patech
1:33:09
or a protect
1:33:12
believe.
1:33:13
I'm trying to sound French and ship. I'm
1:33:16
assuming this is with them all. I don't know nothing
1:33:18
about you.
1:33:22
Make it material,
1:33:25
don't make you watch Apple
1:33:27
watch.
1:33:31
I mean they have choices like that because most
1:33:33
of my things are gifts.
1:33:35
Okay, so.
1:33:38
Both both we're drinking
1:33:42
drinking majesty where patch
1:33:45
you know, and
1:33:49
I'm we're in the other stuff.
1:33:50
So you're
1:33:55
slipping on your You
1:33:58
were supposed to tell me that I'm
1:34:01
offended, he WROTEXT.
1:34:04
We got to step it up, Yes, sir, drink
1:34:07
to that.
1:34:09
A lot. Luther had a lot of Rolexes,
1:34:14
Lucy Kings or Helly Selassie. What
1:34:19
you say, mar Luther King or Helly Selassie.
1:34:22
It's the same thing as you know.
1:34:27
Drink.
1:34:29
Shot shot
1:34:32
that is called not as disrespectful
1:34:37
of this world? Okay, you
1:34:39
want to go to like who even dare
1:34:42
even mentioned these things? Dead
1:34:45
friends or public enemy? Wow?
1:34:49
Wow, that's a good one. Wow,
1:34:52
geesh.
1:34:56
This time because I'm you know,
1:34:58
m one and those
1:35:00
are great Chuck d dig And then,
1:35:02
you know, growing up like my brothers, you
1:35:05
know, being in music, you end.
1:35:06
Up meeting everyone on the side, you know, on the side on
1:35:08
the side, Guy, that's my brother.
1:35:10
Hey, what's up?
1:35:10
You know.
1:35:11
So they're like an extension of each other like that
1:35:14
press back. But then, but
1:35:16
that press used to come down to Jamaica in
1:35:19
the early time, you know.
1:35:21
So I met them in Jamaica. Actually, how could
1:35:23
I be that when they didn't Jamaica.
1:35:25
Yah, so you kind of like I have an affinity to
1:35:27
them too, you know. And then and one again
1:35:29
is region you know, and one is ready
1:35:31
you know what I mean? Boy, we have to
1:35:33
go both.
1:35:36
That, we have to do both. I
1:35:38
see what we're I see what we're going with this. Can
1:35:41
we do a hey, where's it?
1:35:43
We have a tester?
1:35:45
We testing cant that
1:35:48
from migos.
1:35:49
He tried, he tried to. Oh yeah, they tried
1:35:51
to think. Fine,
1:35:56
you can bring your diamont. We give you our
1:35:58
links. Now today,
1:36:01
you know what, it's a hard string day.
1:36:04
And today is my dad's birthday.
1:36:10
You know, that's what that's what's crazy
1:36:13
is I've been seeing you for years and I've always wanted to give
1:36:15
you your flowers, always want to tell you, you know, and
1:36:18
yesterday I forget exactly what happened.
1:36:21
And then we was like, I said, yo, can we push
1:36:23
it? And then they say, you know what, it's Bob
1:36:26
Margy's birthday tomorrow, And
1:36:28
I was like, if that's not divide,
1:36:31
It's like, like, how the
1:36:33
day that I.
1:36:34
Can give you your thank you for joining to
1:36:36
give you your flowers, it's on
1:36:39
the day because you could have been like, no, it's
1:36:41
my PAP's birthday. Because I love this show too,
1:36:44
godam like you.
1:36:48
I watched you want to give No, we want to give you your
1:36:50
flowers, switching because
1:36:54
because nah, you really deserve
1:36:57
this man. Like you know, there's so
1:36:59
many people you know, uh this
1:37:01
air what they say, the heir to the throne, you
1:37:04
know what I mean? So the heir to the throne, right,
1:37:06
there's so many people who don't, who
1:37:09
don't succeed to to fulfill or
1:37:12
try to fulfill to
1:37:15
another great man's shoes,
1:37:17
and to do it in your way and
1:37:19
to do it where you comfortable.
1:37:22
Like you said, your man, I don't really mess with the music like
1:37:24
that. But I'm on the business and
1:37:26
everything else, like honest way of doing
1:37:28
it, and this is your way of being
1:37:31
I and I being and
1:37:33
you're doing it man, like I kid you not. From Angela
1:37:35
Yee to everybody, they always just say, oh man,
1:37:38
you know every time they get they want to go to your hotel
1:37:40
and support you and be like And there's so many great people
1:37:42
that so biger my man, Chris
1:37:45
Jones.
1:37:45
Man. A lot of people don't know. I love Chris Jones.
1:37:50
His father's famous as fun. Yeah,
1:37:53
so I know, y'all. Could it's
1:37:55
just a shot just standing arout there. I gotta take it. It's just a shot
1:37:59
I got one day. I really wanted
1:38:01
to give me flowers.
1:38:02
Man, you
1:38:05
guys get one that's standing out there, and
1:38:08
I'm gonna get the one that's on
1:38:11
the question stuff. Yes, yes, yes, again's
1:38:14
not gonna bring me.
1:38:15
Into your.
1:38:17
Keep the flowers over here. Okay,
1:38:20
Next one, Yeah, shaggy, mister
1:38:22
Vegas, shaggy
1:38:25
shaggy. Next one is yours,
1:38:27
shaggy.
1:38:28
That's easy. You
1:38:31
don't want to take this one. I feel like rosh
1:38:34
you take this one?
1:38:34
Yeah, say it.
1:38:36
It's pineapple ginger or sorrow.
1:38:39
So you just said it. Go ahead, fucked up? Wait
1:38:43
on pineapple ginger are sorry? Yeah? Yeah,
1:38:46
I don't know what Sorry gingers
1:38:48
together and then sorry is separates
1:38:51
the flower, right, Sorry is a Christmas
1:38:53
drink when you have.
1:38:54
Damaica And this is what they make on Christmas.
1:38:57
On christ hype biscus is
1:39:01
like the pub of the eyebiscus. But
1:39:03
but I used to I talked to you about like the
1:39:05
scent right of my
1:39:08
father.
1:39:08
Right, imagine
1:39:12
smelling pineapple ginger wood
1:39:16
and some stew.
1:39:18
That's what you smell, so pineapple ginger.
1:39:21
It's like reminding my father.
1:39:23
I love.
1:39:23
Yeah, Like that's probably one of the house scent.
1:39:25
You go up, you going to the studios, smell that they call
1:39:28
you in the kitchen making them pineapp a ginger
1:39:30
is like as always reminding my father, So
1:39:32
pinup. I love that for that, And it's
1:39:34
heel purposes, of course, but I like that.
1:39:36
I like to.
1:39:37
It takes me to the seventies. You know, you
1:39:40
gotta come to my wife's juice ball. Juice juice ball, Hollandale.
1:39:42
We got all my wife got a juice ball. That's
1:39:45
what we all do. The delivery stuff too, Yeah,
1:39:47
we ain't not not your carib fun
1:39:51
figure out here in the
1:39:53
beach. I ain't telling nobody but
1:39:57
your family.
1:39:57
Down south.
1:39:59
Want to know.
1:40:01
I went to and I saw the fan one day, you.
1:40:04
Know, one of them type of places.
1:40:05
Yeah, well, definitely come to the Juiceball because
1:40:08
Pineapple Ginger is in effect and sorrow
1:40:11
too.
1:40:11
Clara is good, but it's not that I
1:40:14
mean, so it is nice, but it's not like if you ask
1:40:16
my favorite team, I got for Pineapple
1:40:19
Ginger, okay for real.
1:40:20
Or Kanye any way
1:40:22
you want to pick evil
1:40:30
motherfuckers?
1:40:31
Yeah, yo yo,
1:40:37
wow, geesh.
1:40:40
This is them type of questions when you like,
1:40:42
if people were your friends, if they even like some of the stuff
1:40:44
you like it, you
1:40:48
know, your type of ship where your friends.
1:40:50
Motherfucker.
1:40:52
No, that's a good one because those
1:40:54
are like a really good comparison
1:40:56
based upon you know, because
1:40:59
obviously in regards
1:41:01
to the fashion side.
1:41:03
Right, you know what I mean, I knew he was gonna
1:41:05
go there.
1:41:05
It's a thing because they you know, that type
1:41:08
of that's you know, that's street culture,
1:41:10
that high luxury
1:41:12
stuff where they play around and you know, and
1:41:14
then as a music creative, you know what I'm
1:41:16
saying, They even connected music as a creatives
1:41:19
as a music builders, you
1:41:21
know what I mean, like producers.
1:41:23
Wow, that's a tough one shot
1:41:26
leading the witness man.
1:41:27
You keep which one is shot for?
1:41:29
Again for Kanye, you just wanted
1:41:32
to be cool both.
1:41:32
If you want to be cool with both, he said,
1:41:35
you want the gear from both of.
1:41:36
Them, I'm gonna go both to getting I
1:41:38
mean, that's
1:41:40
man, you got no listen, I'm a bigger We're
1:41:43
doing We're gonna do a
1:41:45
shot because you know it's one love,
1:41:48
one love.
1:41:49
It's one love.
1:41:49
You know what I'm saying, Because I've been trying to get
1:41:52
into the Yeah, the
1:41:54
lou Louis buiton Cowboys
1:41:56
ship. Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not into that ship
1:41:59
either. Yeah I'm not.
1:41:59
I mean, but if you talk about like I'm
1:42:02
not into that stuff like he tried, He tried to do it.
1:42:04
I saw him over there.
1:42:06
Killed it cowboy
1:42:08
hat like, but be honest,
1:42:10
they could do it.
1:42:11
You know.
1:42:12
You know, you know who's a dope.
1:42:13
You know it was awesome Oswell
1:42:16
Bow Tang you know you make make suits and Sava
1:42:19
Roa in London, bang from
1:42:22
He's a super sharp
1:42:25
to the t growing man.
1:42:26
Stuff Okay, that good
1:42:28
stuff too.
1:42:29
I like everyone thinks, I like you know who.
1:42:31
I also like Jerry Lorenzo, you
1:42:33
know, from this
1:42:35
is Brank fair of god essence,
1:42:38
fair guy, yeah,
1:42:41
fair guys dope. But I remember Jerry in LA
1:42:43
when he used to run the nightclub scene
1:42:45
and thing I lived out in LA
1:42:47
and then to see him like, you know, and Jerry, Jerry
1:42:50
come from his father as a baseball player
1:42:52
from I think Dodgers or something that's
1:42:55
Super Baseball MLB. Jerry's
1:42:58
you know, me, been around sports a long time, so he
1:43:01
kind of inspired by that athletic word
1:43:03
that he's doing.
1:43:04
So I like, I like what Jerry's doing.
1:43:06
He's one of my.
1:43:06
Guys too, So I guy, you didn't, guy,
1:43:09
you didn't throw him into the mix?
1:43:11
Yep? Okay, and
1:43:14
we did take a shot for that, right, we
1:43:17
take a smoke.
1:43:18
One of these. Yeah, please Dave
1:43:20
Chappelle or Chris Rock all
1:43:22
right, Dave Chappelle analog
1:43:26
or did you h
1:43:31
whatever?
1:43:32
Hey, I got an.
1:43:32
iPhone podcast or
1:43:34
radio podcast
1:43:41
because you know what.
1:43:43
We got to move with the times. And I like this show.
1:43:46
God damn it that Gregory
1:43:52
Isaac's Peter Tosh.
1:43:58
I guess we're thinking for that method
1:44:05
Man or red Man the
1:44:08
brothers.
1:44:09
That's true. That's why we said, what do you do?
1:44:16
You gotta do it both.
1:44:17
Okay, you can't like. That's one
1:44:20
thing you can't like. That's one you.
1:44:22
That's like I said, you said like you
1:44:24
just can't put those guys against each other.
1:44:26
You care, that's like that. That's something.
1:44:28
Wait a minute, those are that's one of them things that you should
1:44:31
drink on your own for it.
1:44:37
Question.
1:44:39
That's a true question.
1:44:41
That's like a trick. Okay,
1:44:46
love or fear? You'd
1:44:48
rather be love or feared?
1:44:52
All right?
1:44:53
Mm hmm. This is the Robert. I'm
1:44:58
gonna tell you why though love?
1:45:01
Because why love? You see a lion?
1:45:04
You have to love me? Mm hmm.
1:45:06
But you yourself, no,
1:45:09
you fear me?
1:45:10
Mm hmm.
1:45:11
You did, right.
1:45:12
So it's love first because I walk in dominion
1:45:16
and I walk in love with myself. But
1:45:18
you're on the outside when you look on this
1:45:21
lion, you know it's fear, but
1:45:23
it's truly love. So because
1:45:26
we're ever ready, you
1:45:28
know what I mean. But it's really love. But
1:45:30
we're lions. And I saw a lion
1:45:32
or that that was.
1:45:34
All ended
1:45:40
with this one yeah, yeah,
1:45:45
not.
1:45:45
But in the interview with tamaslave
1:45:48
loyalty or respect loyalty?
1:45:52
Okay, is that fast? Because
1:45:54
with loyalty come respect because
1:45:57
you know, first you have to have the loyalty. Then there's cook.
1:46:00
You know, respect is subjective
1:46:04
because some things you do true
1:46:06
love and true loyalty, and then
1:46:08
it becomes like I respect this man because
1:46:11
I love this person, and I'm liing to this person
1:46:13
because of love. So it's really
1:46:15
you know, it's always got to be loyaltyalty,
1:46:19
you know, it's just truth. I'll take a shot
1:46:21
to that.
1:46:21
Yeah, I'm taking you ain't take a shot,
1:46:24
take a lot. You got mass smart, that
1:46:27
was smarter, That was smart. I
1:46:29
ain't gonna lie. You know, I'm
1:46:32
gonna take You
1:46:34
want to do it together, you know, because
1:46:38
you know, you know what it's just in my mind.
1:46:40
I got to get because he's back from it's
1:46:43
my mind. I got to say this out. One
1:46:49
thing about Jamaicans,
1:46:52
right, Jamaicans always had
1:46:55
juice bars wherever I was at
1:46:57
my hood, and
1:47:00
they would be.
1:47:01
The most health conscious people. They're
1:47:03
preaching it, preaching it at the same time
1:47:08
telling me, but.
1:47:11
Who says it's not health I didn't
1:47:13
say it's not.
1:47:15
But that's that's tackling mental health.
1:47:17
I give you, I give you. You
1:47:21
know, in the hood, a lot of people can't
1:47:23
afford to go to the doctors. So what they
1:47:26
do is they go to the local juice bar. And
1:47:29
I remember, I tell this story all the time. That's
1:47:32
the reason why I believe in tager bone. I believe
1:47:34
in pills.
1:47:35
Believing it and drinking it every day.
1:47:36
It's two different things. But okay, I
1:47:39
went to a juice ball one day. The police
1:47:42
came. I've ran into the juice bar. I
1:47:44
did not realize that the juice
1:47:46
bar was the west. So I'm wanting into where
1:47:48
they they're going. They're reading you running from
1:47:50
them, running into where they're going, looking
1:47:53
idiot. So I get outside
1:47:55
and then the police say to me, well, what
1:47:59
was you doing in there? I was like, I was buying
1:48:02
tiger bone and the police
1:48:04
is like, okay, great, I didn't know tager bone was illegal
1:48:06
at the time. They run in whatever.
1:48:08
Whatever. The next day I come up, I say, yo, what the
1:48:10
fuck happened? This is some idiot told the
1:48:12
police we were selling tagaphone.
1:48:14
I was like, that was me.
1:48:16
They was like, normay, this is illegal. So
1:48:18
anyway, that same week, a
1:48:21
guy comes to the same health
1:48:23
whose spot and he hugs
1:48:26
this man. He
1:48:28
hugs this man. And when he hugged
1:48:31
him, I never seen a
1:48:33
man hug another man. This
1:48:35
platonic. This is a platonic. But this
1:48:37
was like and he said it
1:48:41
was like he started crying. So I looked, and
1:48:43
I was that curious. I was like, yo, my man, I never seen
1:48:45
like, you know, one straight man hugging
1:48:48
him, a straight man like that, Like
1:48:50
what happened? He said? Straight?
1:48:53
He said, he said, my
1:48:57
dick didn't work for seven years.
1:49:00
Are here?
1:49:01
He said, I told my this is the guy saying
1:49:03
this to me. He said, he told his
1:49:06
wife to cheat on him because he couldn't
1:49:08
he couldn't please them. But this man
1:49:11
got ginger root and
1:49:14
fucking tiger bone and
1:49:16
and and these pills from these
1:49:19
rosterfarians. And this man said,
1:49:21
I'm fucking like a rabbit right now. And
1:49:25
I'm looking he's crying his tears.
1:49:27
This is a grown man.
1:49:29
This is a grown man.
1:49:30
This is beyond years.
1:49:32
I can't even tell you what type of sixties
1:49:34
he was.
1:49:35
In, even a silver status.
1:49:37
Yeah, he had you beat. His
1:49:40
ship was great everywhere. His ship was
1:49:42
great. He's a culture and he
1:49:45
starts a roster Farian
1:49:47
cultures and man,
1:49:50
this guy is somewhere naked.
1:49:54
You know what, you know what your couture,
1:49:56
angoes you meet, you
1:49:59
know why, it's the cousin. What's
1:50:02
the most important thing to us as
1:50:05
human beings? Men are women
1:50:08
to reproduce? No having
1:50:11
a partner, right, like why right?
1:50:16
Why for for creation?
1:50:18
For yeah?
1:50:19
So so it's so it's
1:50:21
the most important monication. Part
1:50:28
of that's the crowd say, it's a form
1:50:30
of love. Okay, it's an exercise, it's
1:50:33
an exchange each other.
1:50:35
Right, But you have to be able to do
1:50:37
that.
1:50:38
You've got to be able to service your you
1:50:41
have to I mean, so
1:50:43
you have to just be able to you know, provide.
1:50:47
You got to do that. You gotta do that.
1:50:49
So our culture, guys, yeah, facts,
1:50:52
our culture is like that.
1:50:53
Everything you drink, everything you eat is
1:50:56
all based around that fish.
1:50:58
You drink fish water for this, not.
1:51:01
Every this is that. Everything is
1:51:04
around the productive organs.
1:51:06
Every everything that every every Jamaican
1:51:09
friend of mine sorrow everything.
1:51:11
Yeah, that's why you're sorry,
1:51:16
every everything for
1:51:19
the wine, everything know everything everything
1:51:26
your last longer what we gonna
1:51:28
lasts? Long. Hold
1:51:33
using bathroom? You gotta use the bath room.
1:51:36
No, I'm fine, okay, hold on, I guess all
1:51:38
right, Well, okay,
1:51:41
you put.
1:51:41
It, you make it?
1:51:44
What's that?
1:51:45
You know?
1:51:45
What what is that?
1:51:47
You know?
1:51:47
You smoke?
1:51:48
No, I don't smoke.
1:51:50
You know my lungs are still in the nineties.
1:51:53
I'm sorry. My lungs
1:51:55
haven't grow up.
1:51:56
My moms have not grown.
1:51:58
I see you running, though, which I see
1:52:00
you running every morning getting
1:52:03
five A I'm jealous.
1:52:05
Yes, you know. You make me jualdous.
1:52:07
You motivate, You motivate us.
1:52:09
You want to could
1:52:11
be a drink, but you know what, we're gonna have a balance
1:52:14
in like you motivated us.
1:52:15
You do.
1:52:16
It's good to see you doing that. I
1:52:18
like to run on the beach myself.
1:52:20
Oh yeah, I'll tell you. I want we're going with your
1:52:22
man stap on the bike. Nobody's
1:52:25
in our way. Yeah, move
1:52:28
out the bike lay.
1:52:31
Ryan stays moving. Your
1:52:34
son has a hit record out now you ship?
1:52:38
Yeah? I mean, how
1:52:40
can you and Laura not make have a son with a
1:52:42
hit record?
1:52:43
It's just it just has to go. It
1:52:45
goes along with it. I can.
1:52:46
I'm gonna say this though, commend
1:52:49
miss Laurence Hill, because yes, when
1:52:52
we talk about like, I
1:52:55
only know certain people like this, right, And
1:52:58
it's just I mean, you know, obviously
1:53:00
it's my son, you know, but
1:53:03
you know she's his mother and.
1:53:05
You know what her craft is. Absolutely, but I only
1:53:07
know certain people like this.
1:53:09
And it's one of the reasons why when I was young,
1:53:12
I always made it my point to never interfere
1:53:14
with Missile's music, like I
1:53:16
always, you know, I take a backseat to her music
1:53:19
because she's super great,
1:53:21
you know. And you talk about public enemy.
1:53:23
I remember when Chuck d said, like Laurence
1:53:25
like the female about Marley. You
1:53:29
know he's right about that. Yeah,
1:53:32
it's truly right because she's like really
1:53:34
that person. And when you talk about
1:53:37
someone that stands on principle, you
1:53:40
know, like because like I said, at
1:53:43
some point in life, you got like own yourself,
1:53:45
you know, like on yourself, you
1:53:48
know what I mean. But I'm
1:53:51
here, I want to get here, you no, not, I mean like
1:53:53
that because you know, as
1:53:55
a musician and because
1:53:57
sometimes you like going through stages,
1:53:59
right, and then
1:54:01
it so happens that you still have to do this,
1:54:04
but you're still going to your own mind
1:54:07
and solidifying your consciousness
1:54:09
in regards to walk in this way that you see
1:54:12
as your way, and no one believes
1:54:14
in your way because it's not your way.
1:54:16
So you have to kind of own your way.
1:54:17
And it's new to you because it's
1:54:20
a vision that you have for yourself, right, so
1:54:22
this way is new to you.
1:54:24
So for you to attain this way,
1:54:26
you have to do it.
1:54:27
And people are going to say, oh, she's this, she's that, But
1:54:30
then again you're in your mind and then you got
1:54:32
to perform. So sometimes there's a delay
1:54:34
because of all the accolades,
1:54:37
all the attributes that go along without
1:54:39
the attire and this and that. The timing
1:54:41
is always you know, may you get up at one
1:54:44
and you got to be on stage at eight, but you take five hours
1:54:46
to do this, you know, So you know timing is so.
1:54:48
But today and been through that and
1:54:51
seeing her in Brooklyn performing
1:54:54
with the fuji Is again learning on the Fuji is
1:54:56
it was just like questioning, you
1:55:01
know what the greatest, the greatest rap
1:55:03
band ever in history is the Foujie's hands
1:55:06
down.
1:55:06
So to see them on stage together
1:55:09
again and Lauren Hill and the Sons
1:55:12
and like they're like the standings here.
1:55:14
That's that's that's kind of crazy. I didn't even look at
1:55:16
that, so you just said that that's real.
1:55:18
So it is what it is.
1:55:21
But to see now why G and
1:55:24
to watch why G Marley because his name means
1:55:26
young Gong. My dad is tough junior
1:55:30
go, so
1:55:32
I mean, but y G like it's
1:55:35
special. You know, my
1:55:38
brother called my brother Stephen when he was young,
1:55:40
he called him Josh.
1:55:42
Yeah.
1:55:43
He's baptizing the river, the Orthodox
1:55:45
river, by the same priests that baptized my
1:55:47
father. All of us Orthodox.
1:55:49
Yeah, we're all Orthodox, you know, but
1:55:52
especially you know, I grew up in Jersey, South Orange,
1:55:55
so but he's he's rough because
1:55:57
you know, there's no better so
1:56:00
Jersey South Orange. Yeah, and
1:56:02
you walk South Orange went to like
1:56:04
Columbia High School and thing hunting and
1:56:06
then places, so you g going to go
1:56:09
as like an independent, you would still finding
1:56:12
his way because as his parents, we
1:56:14
don't really try to.
1:56:15
Did what you did, like found his own
1:56:17
way? Yeah, Fox so
1:56:19
too, I mean, And then you know, first
1:56:22
when I heard the song, I was like, wow,
1:56:24
Josh, Wow, we got to clear this.
1:56:27
Who do I think? Who do you think? I'm sorry? Yeah,
1:56:30
who do you think had more pressure? You trying
1:56:34
to be great in your world or him trying
1:56:36
to be great in his world.
1:56:37
Oh, man, he don't have no pressure. Man, he
1:56:41
don't have no pressure. His
1:56:43
mother paved the way I did
1:56:46
what I had to do, his father, grandfather,
1:56:48
legacy.
1:56:49
He ain't got no pressure. Did you
1:56:51
see how cool he is? But
1:56:55
it ain't because of that. It's
1:56:57
because of the cause of his own life, his
1:57:00
own experiences being that.
1:57:03
And then remember, right, Lauren
1:57:05
Hill is his mother. Listen
1:57:07
to all the stuff in the media about
1:57:09
your mother, whatever they say about
1:57:12
your father, but listen to how they try
1:57:14
to hurt your mother because
1:57:16
she don't confine the system
1:57:18
and listening to that and going to.
1:57:20
School and you have to and still
1:57:22
have to be the lion that you are.
1:57:24
He's like, yeah, fuck that. So
1:57:27
yeah, I have to take a shot.
1:57:32
Because they tried to destroy Lauren
1:57:34
because miss Hale pardon me, they
1:57:36
tried to destroy Miss Hill's work
1:57:39
and legacy because she didn't want
1:57:41
to do another miseducation the
1:57:43
way they wanted her to do it.
1:57:45
She wanted to make.
1:57:45
Music as her evolution,
1:57:48
so through that now they would you know, so you
1:57:50
know the record, you know the thing.
1:57:53
But she ain't gonna bow to that. So she's
1:57:55
a real queen in that industry.
1:57:57
And she's and people say, oh, we
1:57:59
don't, well, if you're true Lauren Hill fan, you
1:58:02
know that whether she's not
1:58:05
at the same time that you guys want her to be on stage,
1:58:08
but she had been touring ever since
1:58:11
and still touring today. So she's
1:58:13
like to me, she's like
1:58:15
the band, like she built a career
1:58:17
like the Grateful Dead.
1:58:19
She's not like a woman. She don't chase
1:58:21
some interviews. That's
1:58:24
ad person.
1:58:25
But now it's so beautiful to see
1:58:28
her create her art and
1:58:31
teach Joshua the way and bring
1:58:34
Joshua on stage open for the
1:58:36
Fuji's reunion and Laurenie on the Fujis
1:58:39
to give him away and give him a spotlight and
1:58:41
and like guide him, help him to
1:58:44
orchestrate his music like kind
1:58:46
of you know, she's a.
1:58:48
G like really g like real g
1:58:50
bro bro Like she's ill. She's
1:58:53
like top notch.
1:58:54
It's like a shot what
1:58:57
you call them.
1:59:00
Yeah, you gotta call her by her name, Miss Hills.
1:59:02
You know, some people go by this and that, you go by
1:59:04
that. Cheers fellows, cheer, cheers still that
1:59:08
ye respect holy ship
1:59:11
and we had prize On, we had w Cleft,
1:59:13
we had a white Cliff. Brothers, brothers,
1:59:16
yes, my brothers, both of
1:59:18
them. We would love to have them.
1:59:20
We would love to have miss Hill.
1:59:24
We please. We're
1:59:28
not asking, We're just saying
1:59:30
it out loud. We
1:59:33
want ask you. No,
1:59:36
no, we're
1:59:41
asking.
1:59:41
We're asking the God.
1:59:44
He's not saying Miss Hill. Trust
1:59:49
no, I don't know.
1:59:53
That's the respect I have, right because trust
1:59:56
me, I don't want to know.
1:59:57
Man, no interruption. So
1:59:59
but but I like, I will
2:00:02
do a copy paste. You know, I
2:00:11
have nothing to do with this. Just I'm
2:00:13
just sharing. I will for sure, I'll
2:00:16
share that, you know. And then obviously.
2:00:20
You know now now now because
2:00:24
people always try to like pin you to a
2:00:26
time, you know what I mean.
2:00:28
And like you said, oh I remember, you
2:00:30
know. I read the comments.
2:00:31
Oh this guy.
2:00:32
I remember this guy because the
2:00:35
one.
2:00:35
Thing for sure, though she don't
2:00:37
like when to talk about this, but I like to talk about it
2:00:40
because it's a fact.
2:00:42
I remember these people. I see this guy, this keyboard
2:00:44
player, he's always such.
2:00:45
A great guy whatever whatever, But anyway, he
2:00:47
wasn't around when Messille was doing missidication was
2:00:49
on Hill. And I remember when those New
2:00:52
York guys. There were like one
2:00:54
guy was a programmer. She don't like going to talk about. I'm gonn
2:00:56
talk about anyway, because they like to paint her in
2:00:58
this image. I remember she in the programmer
2:01:01
with talented programmer drum program
2:01:03
you know, took him out of the New York and he
2:01:05
had a bridging named Kilo, and they created
2:01:07
this New York entertainment group.
2:01:09
I remember them in the Two Twins.
2:01:10
I was there.
2:01:11
She brought him upstairs to her her place in
2:01:13
the in New York and kind
2:01:15
of like because she really came
2:01:18
programmed the drums, but she knew her
2:01:20
sound. She know what she wanted and those guys
2:01:22
can swing it with her swinger and things
2:01:25
like Michael.
2:01:25
Michael didn't know how to play music, but he would.
2:01:27
Hum the music.
2:01:28
She could swing it.
2:01:29
She so so the time
2:01:31
when those guys, you know, they they oh, Missle,
2:01:33
we want to want such and such on this because
2:01:36
when she met them, she said to those guys that,
2:01:38
you know, I'll get you guys
2:01:40
a publishing deal with Sony, but
2:01:42
you but my music is my music. And
2:01:45
after she did her thing, the guys came back and
2:01:47
tried to sue her, right but
2:01:50
because miss.
2:01:51
Hill at the time.
2:01:53
Was doing her Sabbatico
2:01:57
right sabbatico, meaning she
2:01:59
got in depth within the Bible,
2:02:02
like she really like she's really one of them
2:02:04
people like you know about mine taken on Rastafarai.
2:02:07
It's such another way, you know, she just take on the
2:02:09
truth like tu them old Testament
2:02:12
where she just take take on this life so
2:02:14
to to build her true foundation of
2:02:17
self and what she believed in. But
2:02:19
she she was in that wavelength, the
2:02:21
system was able to take advantage of her right
2:02:24
because she she she didn't really defend
2:02:26
anything.
2:02:27
She said, I don't get whatever she would like
2:02:30
the material like she was in that space. Yes,
2:02:33
that so what you know.
2:02:35
But those guys know that, and they and
2:02:37
because it didn't have to be
2:02:39
that way, and they know that, and they still,
2:02:42
you know, sometimes they beg me for forgiveness,
2:02:45
not in those words, but me.
2:02:47
You know, they call me sometimes and I said,
2:02:50
you know such and such and such. Oh no, so whatever,
2:02:53
you know, because as a musician
2:02:57
and the type of musician that she is, she
2:03:00
needs like certain type of musicians.
2:03:02
But these people.
2:03:04
The problem with these guys, they
2:03:07
they want to be mister
2:03:10
star guy on your project and
2:03:12
I'm like, she's telling these guys no, no, no, no, no. I
2:03:15
like you because you know your knowledge
2:03:17
for music and you're the way you strumming.
2:03:19
I like your sound. But I need you to strumm
2:03:22
this. Uh uh uh uh I
2:03:24
need I need that from you. Don't give me
2:03:26
that. But this is no, no no,
2:03:29
And so that little, that little ego
2:03:31
thing because oh but no, I've been studying
2:03:34
music. I went to music school.
2:03:35
I don't give it.
2:03:35
You could have went to she's the conductor and they're not letting
2:03:37
her.
2:03:38
Conduct, right, So so that
2:03:40
burned their ego. And she don't play.
2:03:42
She don't care. So you know what, Oh,
2:03:44
I'm mister, I work with such a sad care fun
2:03:47
will you work with g like
2:03:49
you care where you work? I don't give it you will care.
2:03:52
So that so she get a bad rap
2:03:54
for those things.
2:03:55
But she's a true g dig and
2:03:57
she don't play, and she's a woman and she's
2:04:00
for her rights as a woman in the industry
2:04:02
and she don't let nobody take.
2:04:03
Advantage of her.
2:04:05
You know what I mean?
2:04:05
Her word is bond like that, and when she says
2:04:07
what she believe in, and she's one of them type of people.
2:04:10
So when you look at Hyeg, you look
2:04:12
at Sayla, Sarah, Joshua,
2:04:16
Joshua is HyG Zion
2:04:19
and then again our younger son is.
2:04:22
Your kids together.
2:04:23
Yeah, we have five okay, wow together
2:04:27
beautiful children.
2:04:28
Have a daughter, right, I have seven
2:04:31
children before and now I have
2:04:34
five other ones, so I have twelve total. I
2:04:36
have seven grandchildren and two on the way.
2:04:39
So I have a long, big family, you
2:04:42
do, and there are beautiful people. So
2:04:49
Lauren and I we have Zion first,
2:04:51
then we have Sailah, then we have Joshua,
2:04:54
then we have John, and we have Sarah.
2:04:57
And Lauren has a son, Micah.
2:05:01
Big respect to Micah.
2:05:02
He's not of my he's not my
2:05:04
child, but he's born on July twenty
2:05:07
third, and July twenty thirty is the birthday
2:05:09
of highly Slashy the first. So yeah,
2:05:13
so I have to love him, yes, even though
2:05:15
he's not I love him same way
2:05:17
like he's not my child. And after
2:05:20
miss myself and Miss Lauren, you
2:05:22
know, we traveled, we journeyed apart, but
2:05:25
I love him the same way as her son. And it's
2:05:27
truly intelligent boy too, So that's
2:05:29
how you know the super intelligence of Miss Dawn
2:05:31
Hill.
2:05:32
Her mother is a school teacher,
2:05:34
school principal.
2:05:35
Father is like a computer scientist
2:05:38
brother as he's a tech guy, smart
2:05:40
family man, ivy league. She went to what
2:05:44
Columbia University for a time. Super
2:05:46
intelligent people just oh
2:05:48
my god, I respect.
2:05:50
I feel no officially.
2:05:53
Respect respect to intelligence. Respect
2:05:55
intelligence.
2:05:57
So I love intelligence, by the way,
2:05:59
yes this one, you know, Yes, inspired
2:06:01
by intelligence. I learned how to use a computer
2:06:04
after college at Miss Lauren Hill's house
2:06:07
after college, after I knew nothing
2:06:09
about.
2:06:10
This technically shit,
2:06:13
I'm playing football.
2:06:13
Man.
2:06:14
He was. He was a jock.
2:06:15
He was a jockey. Man. Man,
2:06:18
I couldn't.
2:06:19
I couldn't do both. I mean today I commend
2:06:21
the kids that are doing both. I
2:06:24
one of that studing pick football at the same time.
2:06:27
Good for you. Man.
2:06:30
Let me ask you a question. Someone
2:06:33
asked me this question the other day. They say, would
2:06:36
I have to be starstruck? And I say, yes, just
2:06:39
probably two
2:06:42
people in this world I'll be starstruck with. Yeah,
2:06:45
Larry David from Curby Enthusiasm.
2:06:48
Uh, last season, right this
2:06:51
last season. I think I
2:06:53
will walk out the room If Larry I think I will
2:06:55
run out of the room because I don't want to meet him. If
2:06:58
he's a dick, fuck
2:07:00
up everything.
2:07:01
Larry David, Larry David and uh.
2:07:06
Jerry sim really yeah,
2:07:09
I don't want to.
2:07:11
Musician Sionfield, you're
2:07:13
really a comedian listen.
2:07:15
I don't know he is.
2:07:18
He has that that comedian all
2:07:20
day.
2:07:20
Like if I go watch something all day, if you come
2:07:22
to my house, it's either CURBYR.
2:07:25
Enthusiasm, yeah, or intelligent
2:07:29
all day.
2:07:30
Like that is intelligence, absolutely
2:07:33
very wise. I mean I recently met
2:07:36
David Chappelle.
2:07:37
Hold, sorry, let me ask, is
2:07:41
there anybody you starstruck.
2:07:44
Who like, like,
2:07:46
have I met them? Or people in
2:07:49
general? All right,
2:07:51
okay, all right, I remember
2:07:54
this is when I knew, like, this is when
2:07:56
I like really knew something because you
2:07:59
know, I came to America in nineteen eighty four,
2:08:02
and this is when I like I knew
2:08:06
this was like okay, because
2:08:08
I'm in Jamaica watching these things and you know it
2:08:11
was a Victory tour and
2:08:16
the tickets in Miami, you can't go to
2:08:18
this concert Victory
2:08:20
Tour Michael Jackson and the Brothers.
2:08:23
Wait, the Jackson five, the Victory
2:08:25
Tour.
2:08:26
It's called Victory Tour.
2:08:27
Man. You guys are in music. You guys music
2:08:30
music stuff. Yes, yeah, but we was young
2:08:33
and too back then. All right, whatever, man, I'm young
2:08:35
too, so the Victory
2:08:37
tour, but I remember, yeah,
2:08:40
I remember right, they were
2:08:42
older too. Watching the news at
2:08:44
my grandma's house in Miami.
2:08:45
I just came here. It's like, I think it's like eighty six.
2:08:49
Yes, gotta be like eighty six. I mean something
2:08:52
like that, because when I was
2:08:54
young, I wanted those zip up zippy zippy parents
2:08:56
like Michael Jackson had, you know, I remember
2:09:00
actually want the news and he busted the
2:09:02
moon log and remember my skin.
2:09:05
The goose bumps. I was like,
2:09:07
wow, so
2:09:10
like that you're still brown skin.
2:09:12
At that time, Michael
2:09:17
Jackson.
2:09:19
And then and then the other person
2:09:21
where like it's like
2:09:23
a superhero to me, Like this person
2:09:25
is.
2:09:26
Like what is
2:09:28
this one is?
2:09:29
Obviously I never met vere,
2:09:32
but do the drum rope for this and
2:09:35
my son and I we have problems about these things.
2:09:37
Don't start the drum rope, buddy, Okay, I
2:09:40
mean we're
2:09:43
in number twenty three. Oh
2:09:46
Jordan, who met Jordan's.
2:09:49
I met Jordan's. Yeah, he met Jordan's.
2:09:51
But the
2:09:54
most awesome human
2:09:57
being I know, like you talked about like starstre
2:09:59
like, wow, I remember, like Lauren,
2:10:03
she was getting an award for N
2:10:05
double N C double P N double.
2:10:07
A C P N double a c P W
2:10:10
A C. He's
2:10:12
like, all right, and
2:10:17
that's how I made that somebody
2:10:22
the guy oh that she's not even right, Okay,
2:10:26
all right, n W A c P.
2:10:29
So Lauren is getting an award and
2:10:32
they're honoring Michael Jordan's So
2:10:35
Lauren, Dad, he says to me, miss Hill's
2:10:37
dad, Well, this time is Lauren for me?
2:10:39
Whatever?
2:10:41
At that time, at that time we're talking
2:10:43
about time period, you're married.
2:10:45
You're married at the time, yes, as
2:10:47
you as you say, right, So,
2:10:50
Lauren, dad said, you won't believe this. Guess
2:10:53
who you're sitting next to. He
2:10:56
says Michael Jordan. I said, get the
2:10:58
funk out of here.
2:11:00
You didn't know you were sitting next to him? No, because
2:11:02
we had the front row Lauren. I mean, remember
2:11:04
Lauren is the top of the top. It's
2:11:07
Lauren, and then it's it's
2:11:09
Michael Jordan and then his wife Cookie
2:11:13
Cookie, No, not Cookie, No, I'm sorry. What's
2:11:15
Michael's name wife's name?
2:11:16
At the time? Okay,
2:11:20
I think so.
2:11:23
So I'm looking I can't believe
2:11:25
fucking Michael Jordan's. It's like, I
2:11:27
can't fucking believe this ship. But
2:11:29
this is the time when he had cut cut his finger
2:11:32
with the cigar opener.
2:11:34
I know his history.
2:11:35
So he was wearing a he's
2:11:38
wearing a band. So I'm like, hey, you're
2:11:40
coming back. Of
2:11:42
course, I introduced myself.
2:11:43
You know.
2:11:44
Second nineteen eighty four was the Victory
2:11:47
Tall.
2:11:47
Yeah.
2:11:48
Remember yeah, what number November second?
2:11:51
Yeah, I just came to America August nineteen
2:11:53
eighty four.
2:11:57
Yeah, so he was already on tour.
2:11:58
Yes, really, Jean, he
2:12:00
was No, I can't with it.
2:12:02
No, I can't.
2:12:04
No, I got expelled out of school Jesus,
2:12:06
and that's how I ended up in America. I didn't even tell you that part
2:12:08
of my life. But anyway, it's another time
2:12:10
for that.
2:12:12
But m J.
2:12:14
Michael Jordan's Michael Jackson, I would
2:12:16
say, outside of my family or
2:12:19
like two of my heroes, heroes, heroes
2:12:21
like I remember sworn Saturdays.
2:12:24
So you're saying you met both MJ's. I
2:12:26
never met Michael Jackson, will be with a Tall.
2:12:29
I would know. I saw when I saw
2:12:31
him on the news, and my my
2:12:34
skin had the goosebumps. That's
2:12:37
when I was young.
2:12:38
I mean I wanted the parachute, the jacket,
2:12:41
I wanted that stuff.
2:12:42
I wanted the Michael Jackson like I thriller
2:12:45
joint, like Billy Jean beat
2:12:47
it. The red black, uh
2:12:49
huh, the red black red specific
2:12:52
red, red, recific red
2:12:55
red red is thriller red.
2:12:57
It's a lot about you because looking
2:13:00
about you, what does this
2:13:02
say?
2:13:02
The black one you might still rob somebody.
2:13:06
The red one you go on to the left.
2:13:08
The left, we don't know the left we left.
2:13:11
We don't know where the level went at bag. But
2:13:15
I'm red ya fire.
2:13:17
Yes you're a Protestant.
2:13:20
Yeah, sure recipes bless
2:13:23
him, bless him, bless hum.
2:13:24
So yeah, so that those are my would be. I would
2:13:27
say people that I think very like as
2:13:30
Jackson. Yeah, man, I remember warring SAP.
2:13:32
One day, right, come
2:13:36
on a FaceTime, Hey,
2:13:39
ro I got somebody for
2:13:41
you. Put Michael
2:13:43
Jordan on faced. I was like,
2:13:47
yo, hey, maen so on
2:13:49
the golf course. You know they're on the boat on
2:13:51
the citing the back of fishing rich ship my
2:13:53
bad. So
2:13:56
I was trying to tell him that streamment. I remember meeting you,
2:13:59
like, hey, man up like.
2:14:04
Cut me up.
2:14:05
But but but the problem was, you
2:14:07
know, you can't get you can't take him too much time
2:14:09
in this man, So he's like what you're
2:14:11
saying, I'm trying to tell him my story.
2:14:13
Man, I met you and so and so and.
2:14:18
Was like you can't hear that ship.
2:14:26
No, step is the type of guy you've been full
2:14:29
conversation Step such and.
2:14:31
Such a later.
2:14:33
But yeah, yeah, all right, what
2:14:36
that's sad. That's sad. That's sad.
2:14:38
Yeah, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, that's the
2:14:40
only people you were fan out.
2:14:42
No, I mean Pele, I.
2:14:44
Met soccer player Pele like like
2:14:47
soccer when you talk about I'm an athlete, dig.
2:14:50
So how about Messy?
2:14:52
Yeah, I'm I mean I
2:14:54
remember I'm a little older, so I always
2:14:56
go all the way, you know, to the right.
2:14:59
Although, Daniel, I'm Brazilian
2:15:01
players, but Messi I do like. But
2:15:04
but I'm more of like, I'm more in Zil.
2:15:07
I'm more I'm more of a Brazilian guy.
2:15:09
Where's Messi from Argentina?
2:15:12
I'm Brazil And then Ronaldo Christina
2:15:14
what was his name? I
2:15:17
mean, I like Christian because he's a legend. He's
2:15:19
one of the most famous football players
2:15:21
in the world.
2:15:22
But I'm in Brazil. I mean, I'm like
2:15:25
Brazil, Brazil. Yeah,
2:15:27
we're not. We have a daughter from Brazil.
2:15:30
He came to my
2:15:34
birthday party.
2:15:39
I bet you we can say any continent. I
2:15:41
feel like he's gonna be like, I have a kid from
2:15:43
that. You're
2:15:49
in Brazil said, yeah, I have a daughter
2:15:51
in Brazil.
2:15:52
I do.
2:15:53
Name is Maria. I think we could be like, well, my.
2:15:55
Presilian daughter Maria. But
2:15:59
I feel like I fear if we say the moon, you might
2:16:01
be like, yes.
2:16:02
The Moon. I have a child.
2:16:05
I told you about my You know,
2:16:07
I'm into UFOs seers
2:16:09
to that.
2:16:11
Who has both kids? Your pops?
2:16:14
But you know, my dad is a father
2:16:16
to the world. But naturally, you
2:16:18
know, nine eleven children?
2:16:21
Is that?
2:16:22
Is that the Rastafarian way to program
2:16:24
is that really is not really a Rastafari
2:16:27
way to program me. I think it's everyone's way, right,
2:16:29
right, But I'm saying in that Magnifude, Well,
2:16:32
well.
2:16:33
I guess what I'm just having to be honest, I
2:16:36
guess what happens right, say,
2:16:38
like, for instance, as a human being, I
2:16:41
have a girlfriend, right or a woman that
2:16:44
I consider I'm gonna be with this woman for a long
2:16:46
time, right, So we're
2:16:48
naturally having intercourse.
2:16:52
And if you have intercourse over
2:16:54
a.
2:16:54
Period of time a lot
2:16:56
of times, naturally
2:17:00
there's gonna have certain results and
2:17:02
they're gonna be positive. So
2:17:09
over a certain period of time, you know, it just happens
2:17:12
that you have children with the woman you're with. So
2:17:14
it's like that, it's really it's like it's
2:17:17
being with someone and having a child.
2:17:19
And then normally, naturally when you're
2:17:21
younger, when you're much younger, right,
2:17:25
you know, and you're trying to find yourself too,
2:17:28
and so sometimes you know, you do things
2:17:30
where you don't say you're
2:17:32
right or wrong. You just feel like it's
2:17:34
the right way, because who's to tell
2:17:36
you it's the wrong way, right, So you figuring
2:17:39
it out for yourself. So you think this woman
2:17:41
is the woman you want to be with, and you're
2:17:43
the person. Then the person along the way changes
2:17:46
your ways or you change your way towards this person.
2:17:49
Naturally, yes, So it doesn't work out,
2:17:51
So you end up being with someone else, and then you
2:17:54
have another child, and then it
2:17:56
doesn't work out. Then you end up
2:17:58
being someone else and you have another child,
2:18:00
and then it doesn't work out, and
2:18:03
it just happens to not work out some of the times,
2:18:06
and it works.
2:18:07
How you manage fothering the children.
2:18:09
That's the best birds in the best conversation I've
2:18:11
ever heard of.
2:18:11
With how you manage them. It's just like you
2:18:13
manage your friends, right right, So
2:18:15
if you so friends, family,
2:18:18
how you manage life? Like some people
2:18:20
don't have children, they manage like Yeah, have you ever seen.
2:18:23
A dog walker?
2:18:24
You've seen one at walk like fifteen dogs. How
2:18:27
you manage that? That's what he does. So
2:18:30
I, as a father, I live for
2:18:32
my children. My life is
2:18:34
to raise children.
2:18:35
That's what I live up.
2:18:36
I love that.
2:18:36
That's why I want to raise like a champion,
2:18:39
you know, So like it's my It's like
2:18:41
my my is
2:18:44
when I get to mold. So that's like my purpose
2:18:46
in life.
2:18:46
Like the things I do is for that.
2:18:49
And then again it's also
2:18:51
a form of pro creating.
2:18:53
And true some instances were loved,
2:18:56
some instances but just happens.
2:18:58
But you know, now, I'm more discipline my
2:19:01
human girlvernor playing that so like
2:19:04
one of them, it's not gonna play. She
2:19:07
don't play it. But that's
2:19:09
another story. But she don't play, and she
2:19:11
gives me. She loved my children. She
2:19:13
gives me that respect and thing. You know, a second.
2:19:16
But to do that, you have to be a father.
2:19:18
You have to be committed to your children. And
2:19:21
you have to know that it is your responsibility as a man.
2:19:24
You know your children or your children, and
2:19:27
you must And my
2:19:29
house is my children. My doors are open to my
2:19:32
children. I have children that are
2:19:34
married. You know, my daughter
2:19:37
Eden, she's married and she has two
2:19:39
nice, beautiful daughters. My grandfathers
2:19:41
to them. I have a son, like my children
2:19:44
graduate college. I have older children. They're in there,
2:19:46
one thirty year old up on this and then the youngest
2:19:49
you have. My youngest is going to be two in
2:19:51
March.
2:19:52
Wow, you out of control, bro. I actually
2:20:00
I'm unplay. But I have a three year old in the fire, and
2:20:02
I'm out of control.
2:20:04
Well I think I'm like in control and stuff. No,
2:20:07
but I understand what you say that. But you know what, that's
2:20:10
the that's just you know, it's
2:20:12
part of.
2:20:13
What I eat. He
2:20:19
said.
2:20:20
I'm a good father, a
2:20:22
productive guy, a ginger
2:20:24
roote.
2:20:25
I can produce. Man, I'm
2:20:27
a productive guy. So but but now
2:20:29
I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm very I'm
2:20:31
very settled in life and I find
2:20:33
the right person for me and then I'm
2:20:36
moving on like that. So it's good. But I
2:20:38
feel like I have a lot of children that I
2:20:41
need now to to build them, build
2:20:43
the characters, build leaders, and
2:20:46
have my own little army so that I
2:20:48
can focus on, you know, and they make you as
2:20:50
well, Yeah, make you.
2:20:52
So that's what I love about children. It's my responsibility.
2:20:55
It's like, it's my responsibility everything
2:20:57
about my child and my children of
2:21:00
them so much, you know, all of them, you
2:21:02
know, and they love each other because I was raised this
2:21:04
way. So it's like and also
2:21:07
I'm.
2:21:07
A product of my environment because you know, growing
2:21:10
up where you just have this way.
2:21:13
But then when you get older, you realize,
2:21:15
you know, maybe it's time to like
2:21:18
be like Ziggi or Cidella,
2:21:20
you know, where you just kind of settle a down and
2:21:23
live life where you don't have to worry about things.
2:21:26
And because it's a it's
2:21:28
a manageable thing, but it's you
2:21:30
shouldn't have to manage life. So I want to live
2:21:32
a life full of trust and that's
2:21:34
peaceful where my woman can take
2:21:37
my phone and do it or whatever. I don't want
2:21:39
to worry about those things again, like yeah, like
2:21:41
because as strong as you are, right as
2:21:43
a woman's there's a woman that's stronger than you, so
2:21:47
and so, and that's just keep puting it
2:21:49
where the woman can take the phone. Yeah,
2:21:52
it's like that because it's too hard.
2:21:53
I can't do it.
2:21:54
No, but you know it's not necessariainly stressful
2:21:56
but not necessarily the thing. But you don't want to live,
2:21:59
like but it's just like you
2:22:02
get to focus on other things, man, And
2:22:04
then.
2:22:04
Most people is broke to you know that? Yeah,
2:22:08
they broke because like they all the
2:22:10
time cheating. I hear you, like trying.
2:22:12
I can't. I can't look, I can't.
2:22:15
I can't call myself innocent. Like I've never
2:22:17
been a bad guy in people's eyes.
2:22:19
I started as just being cool. It's
2:22:23
growth, it's growth, we all, we all sure.
2:22:26
But let me ask you because we talked about Warren
2:22:28
Sapp. Yeah, we talked about ray Lewis.
2:22:31
Didn't talk about was you at the u M You
2:22:34
played at the h U M U M
2:22:37
Rock? Yeah?
2:22:38
Do ah?
2:22:39
You playing with the rock? Excuse me? Do
2:22:42
we call him do it at that time?
2:22:43
Sorry?
2:22:44
But he's the rock? But so you mean I can walk
2:22:46
up to the Rock, do we. I don't think you can do it.
2:22:48
Now.
2:22:48
What was the season? I'm not sure. I
2:22:51
don't think I hold up.
2:22:52
I think you guys had a record season, right we always
2:22:54
do?
2:22:54
You know?
2:22:55
In my college career, I think I lost three games.
2:22:57
In my entire career, we won fifty
2:22:59
eight games straight at home.
2:23:01
Yeah, I've never.
2:23:06
I've never played on a team that was ranked less
2:23:08
than number three in the country.
2:23:10
So you were the Rock.
2:23:12
Yeah, the Rock played with us. Yes, and we
2:23:14
played with the Rock as well, meaning
2:23:17
like you know, the person
2:23:20
on the football field like friends
2:23:22
were you and family that's
2:23:25
dope.
2:23:26
Anybody else We're not naming how
2:23:29
you play with worms and
2:23:31
mind you and mind you.
2:23:34
But they kind of played with me though, like they played
2:23:36
with you, they played with you. I'm the motherfucking
2:23:39
when I was there, I'm the leader you can when
2:23:41
I'm there, I'm leading that team like they
2:23:43
played with me. When you when you
2:23:45
talk to sad, Yeah, I played the real hand.
2:23:49
We talked.
2:23:50
Now, I'm kidding, but listen, ro this
2:23:52
is what I'm trying to say. Right, we could predict you
2:23:54
know what happened to me? You know how I learned the game? I
2:23:58
came here when they expelled me from Cool in Jamaica
2:24:00
because you know, just an,
2:24:04
I didn't like the school, I didn't like the people, but it's
2:24:06
whatever happened.
2:24:07
They expelled me.
2:24:08
So when I came here, I was
2:24:10
going to a school and then Pine Crest Pinkerst
2:24:13
Elementary And it was
2:24:15
nineteen eighty four and it's during the time
2:24:17
when the Miami Dolphins were
2:24:20
like very good with Dan Marino killing
2:24:23
Like if you no, if you ever asked
2:24:25
me about like were my favorite people,
2:24:27
like the Miami Dolphins that Marino was one of my favorite
2:24:30
guys growing up the eighties. Yeah,
2:24:32
So at the school they would
2:24:34
play Miami Dolphins, Miami
2:24:37
Dolphins, Dolphins and one, so
2:24:39
I started loving the game.
2:24:41
And during the time, they were
2:24:43
trying.
2:24:43
To like they seize my father's asset
2:24:46
because they were trying.
2:24:47
To sell his rights.
2:24:48
Right it's published in You wasn't
2:24:50
trying to do that well, the trust
2:24:53
in Jamaica because my dad never left a will.
2:24:55
So it got it was crazy, right, So
2:24:58
because of.
2:24:58
That, they tried to he never tr We
2:25:01
had a trust, but the trust wanted to sell all as asset
2:25:03
or they no.
2:25:03
Longer want to manage the assets. But that
2:25:05
was just them trying to destroy another
2:25:08
man, you know, liquidate all his assets. So
2:25:11
Chris Blackwell, there's a short story. Chris
2:25:13
Blackwell ended up lending the family
2:25:15
the money. We the children, not that that's us,
2:25:17
because that's us as Mama Rita and
2:25:19
all the kids. So we got we borrow the
2:25:21
money, and we bought our dad's rights, so we
2:25:24
own everything. That's when we end up owning our father's
2:25:26
rights. So that's that's wow.
2:25:28
So now coming to America during that time with
2:25:31
the court is.
2:25:32
Movie coming to America, You come in to America.
2:25:35
Yeah, it's a good reference because
2:25:37
I like that because
2:25:40
it is because it's coming to Americ
2:25:42
King. I am a king. The
2:25:44
King is the movement. Let me take you about this king though.
2:25:47
So this king came to America during that time,
2:25:50
and when they seized all my father's assets
2:25:53
and everything. I remember them talking about
2:25:55
selling my granny's house that we were living in, and
2:25:57
being that I was one of Bob's child living
2:26:00
in the house, I was able to put a pause
2:26:02
on the sale to kind of like
2:26:05
jurisdiction rights.
2:26:07
But also remember living
2:26:09
off.
2:26:09
Of my dad's social Security
2:26:12
check ninety nine
2:26:14
dollars a month here in America.
2:26:16
Is American social Security? Yeah wow?
2:26:18
Because yeah, my dad has an American Social Security
2:26:21
check. Remember he worked in Delaware for
2:26:24
some time, you know that, well he did. He was like,
2:26:26
if you work on the Forclift, work
2:26:28
with the DuPont family, these type of people, such
2:26:30
and such, well, my granny worked with them. He worked
2:26:33
for like Chevy or whatever company
2:26:35
is there. So anyway, I ended
2:26:37
up coming here during that time because
2:26:41
my family didn't have no money. My brothers
2:26:43
would come to Miami and kind
2:26:45
of help out with the bills. Mama Retail
2:26:47
would help out with the bills because everything was seized
2:26:50
up. So we were able to borrow
2:26:53
some money from Chris Blackwell to
2:26:55
buy our father's rights. And during this
2:26:57
time, I wanted to like not pressure the family,
2:27:00
So I ended up learning to play football and
2:27:02
got a scholarship so I didn't have to bother my
2:27:04
family about going to college.
2:27:05
And you know, being that I was a failure,
2:27:08
I just.
2:27:08
Showed these motherfuckers that I'm
2:27:11
going to go to fucking um. You bastards
2:27:13
that hated me so much because I
2:27:15
came from Spanish Town and I was Bob's
2:27:18
child and I was supposed to be a failure.
2:27:20
So I had to do that.
2:27:21
So I had to put these fucker's wrong and go
2:27:23
to the um. They
2:27:25
bought that UM. And then that's
2:27:28
kind of my way, you know, and that's how I got into football.
2:27:30
I got a scholarship.
2:27:31
So just to recap a lot
2:27:33
of this though, this is the time period
2:27:35
that the Marley name is not making
2:27:38
money because it's being like these.
2:27:41
And there's all the all the bootleggers. Everything
2:27:44
is seized up, everybody running around.
2:27:46
So we had to get everything under control, and
2:27:48
it took a long long time.
2:27:51
And Chris Blackwell, if I'm not wrong, the same
2:27:53
dude, the only Marlin hotel right
2:27:55
at the studio there.
2:27:57
I used to do a lot of stuff there.
2:27:58
So here his name a Marlon
2:28:01
EANs like Golden Golden
2:28:04
Beach in Jamaica, I forget the name of that place, Bond
2:28:07
where James Bond did some stuff in
2:28:10
Jamaica.
2:28:11
And Strawberry Hills or my dad went.
2:28:13
After the Yeah, my dad went there after
2:28:15
the assassination attempt.
2:28:16
He went to Strawberry Hills.
2:28:18
So yeah, Chris Blackwell, good man, you
2:28:20
know, he helped us out.
2:28:21
He looked out for us.
2:28:22
I mean it's the only person. And another
2:28:24
story with Michael Jackson.
2:28:27
So this is the human side of Mike Jackson. Michael
2:28:29
Jackson, Okay.
2:28:30
This is the human side.
2:28:33
So we needed the money as a family.
2:28:36
MCA wanted to buy my dad's rights,
2:28:38
right, Sony
2:28:42
Japan wanted to buy my father's rights.
2:28:45
We asked Michael Jackson's for some money. Michael
2:28:48
Jackson wanted to buy my fathers because
2:28:50
he bought the Beatles. He did so
2:28:52
he never learned this the money. So
2:28:55
Mike wanted to buy the rights. You never learned iced
2:28:57
the money.
2:28:58
But Chris Blackwell, who was a good guy, you
2:29:01
loan us the money. Oh so you're saying
2:29:03
a human that wasn't such
2:29:05
a great.
2:29:06
No human, No, tell me as
2:29:08
an entrepreneur. The
2:29:11
human side, Yeah, the human
2:29:14
beingside. We gotta pay your bills side.
2:29:16
And you got Chris Blackwell loaned you
2:29:18
the money. Work where Michael wanted to buy
2:29:21
the rights, absolutely, and you
2:29:23
guys were not interested in selling the
2:29:25
rights.
2:29:26
So I remember one of the offers. I think
2:29:28
it was like nineteen ninety one. It was like twenty million
2:29:31
dollars.
2:29:32
So one of my things was because everyone has to sign
2:29:34
all the children everyone, all the children
2:29:36
we have to sign, and how many children is.
2:29:38
This eleven of us?
2:29:40
Okay?
2:29:42
Yeah, yeah, eleven of us or ten
2:29:44
of us that I have us signing
2:29:46
rights, so we all have to sign.
2:29:50
So my thing was, well, shit,
2:29:53
if it's worth twenty million to then we think it's worth
2:29:55
to us.
2:29:55
Exactly right, you know what I mean?
2:29:58
Like shit, I mean, wow, whoa,
2:30:01
that's nice. But we're talking about
2:30:03
it worth a trillion dollars to us? Man,
2:30:06
what you can think about that?
2:30:07
Yeah? No, I can't bargain that. Let's
2:30:10
start there, you know, let's come on, come
2:30:12
up with a trillion so we can make some change, real change.
2:30:14
So that's what we thought about it.
2:30:16
So I remember even then because
2:30:19
as a youth, right, you get this option as
2:30:21
a Marley boy or a Marley child from
2:30:25
what was sold and the money that
2:30:28
was loaned because you borrowed it. When you become eighteen
2:30:30
years old, you get a million dollars, right, And
2:30:33
I remember.
2:30:33
Being at University of my end.
2:30:34
But wait, hold hold up, So when you guys become
2:30:37
any Marty child becomes eighteen years old, you
2:30:39
get a million dollars.
2:30:40
Right because of because of what they
2:30:42
sold, what the trust that is right right, I was there,
2:30:44
so we had to like borrow that money and you know,
2:30:48
you.
2:30:48
Get it, but you owe it kind of thing.
2:30:50
Oh it's alone.
2:30:50
It's I'm gonna tell you about it.
2:30:52
I don't know what it is, but I don't even know what it is, but
2:30:54
I'm gonna tell you how.
2:30:55
It worked out.
2:30:56
So anyway, when I was in college, I remember the
2:30:58
lawyers coming to my my school and
2:31:01
they're telling me, Hey, you're eighteen years old. Now what's
2:31:05
your decision? You know, I said, what decision
2:31:07
I got to make? You
2:31:09
can sign here and
2:31:12
own. Because of the loan that we took, the
2:31:14
twelve million dollar loan, we have to pay that
2:31:16
loan back. So my
2:31:18
million dollars needs either it's going to
2:31:20
go back to paying that loan or
2:31:23
be tame another part of the loan, because
2:31:25
it now it's becoming art. We're owning this company.
2:31:27
We're we're barny mine to own our dads
2:31:30
like any other people. We're barning money against
2:31:33
that. Yes, so now I get the million dollars
2:31:37
or do I take a million dollars and
2:31:40
go live on the beach in Jamaica by
2:31:42
the mansion, do all the great things
2:31:45
I can do in the life and we set forever
2:31:47
in my life.
2:31:48
Let's do it, or do
2:31:50
I take thirty six thousand dollars and carry
2:31:52
on.
2:31:54
So if the choice is the
2:31:56
million dollars will go back you own you're
2:31:59
a part of this company that owns all your day's rights,
2:32:02
which is like all the family, we own
2:32:04
that.
2:32:05
Or we take your million dollars
2:32:08
and really cash out.
2:32:10
Right.
2:32:11
So the lawyers like, hey, well you know these
2:32:13
motherfuckers man, because
2:32:15
the lawyer, right, the bigger the pot,
2:32:18
the more he makes, Right, what do you care about
2:32:20
me?
2:32:21
You know what I'm saying. So he wants you get the bigger
2:32:23
amounts. So you can't get a bigger percentage,
2:32:25
Yeah, because it's the bigger the part, the more fam if I give
2:32:27
him.
2:32:28
If I take the thirty, he's
2:32:30
not going to be happy. If I get the MILLI
2:32:32
and go, you take whatever
2:32:34
you take out that and I be rich forever by
2:32:36
a million dollars in nineteen ninety two.
2:32:40
So I ask these motherfuckers.
2:32:42
I say, to these these asshole
2:32:44
lawyers, these people that work for people
2:32:46
that actually they own you, I say,
2:32:48
let me ask you something. What
2:32:51
did my brothers and sisters do my
2:32:53
older brothers. Remember we talk about age. What
2:32:56
did Zig and Sidela do and Steven?
2:32:58
What did they do?
2:33:00
Row they took the thirty
2:33:02
thousand. I said, where do I sign? Give
2:33:05
me the fucking thirty thousan dollars and get the fuck
2:33:07
out. I didn't see all that part.
2:33:08
I'm adding that was a movie. I'd
2:33:11
say like that.
2:33:14
I chose to give back the million
2:33:16
dollars and live off of
2:33:18
that thirty thousand dollars for a little
2:33:20
bit.
2:33:20
And thirty thousand sounds like interest. Three
2:33:23
thousand dollars was because it was like you
2:33:26
owed each party to pay
2:33:28
back the loan.
2:33:29
It's like nine hundred and seventy thousand
2:33:31
dollars of such and such. So of
2:33:33
the twelve million dollars that we bought from Chris Blackwell,
2:33:35
that's the loan that you're paying back.
2:33:37
We're paying the loan back to Chris Blackwell. Right,
2:33:39
So that money, when we get it, we got ause
2:33:42
that's what we bought. That's an asset. That's
2:33:44
an asset that's giving us this million dollars again,
2:33:47
right, So we're taking that, you know, so
2:33:49
even though we bought it, Yes, so we have to
2:33:51
pay that shit back.
2:33:53
So we the family, the children, we keep
2:33:56
our dad's rights end up until
2:33:58
since nineteen eighty one and it's
2:34:00
been us at the hound. So everything
2:34:03
you see Bob Marley has been us to children doing
2:34:06
it. And big up to my brother
2:34:08
Ziggy Sidela, my big sister
2:34:10
Sadela from holding it down, you know,
2:34:13
all these years, Ma Marita like treating
2:34:15
us all like her own children, like even
2:34:17
though we're not.
2:34:18
She's not my biological mother, but I call that. No,
2:34:22
My mother's name is Janet the Hunter, a
2:34:25
nice little lady that make
2:34:27
nice food, you.
2:34:28
Know, so big
2:34:30
up to Janet that nobody
2:34:32
knows but the place should
2:34:34
have to cook because that was one
2:34:36
of the things is
2:34:39
I feel like Bob Marley is probably
2:34:41
one of the most bootlegs person ever.
2:34:43
Like everywhere you go you see a Bob
2:34:46
Marley T shirt.
2:34:47
You see.
2:34:48
Man, are you telling me that for the most
2:34:50
part, the family gets the
2:34:53
residual state estate?
2:34:57
Is it you guys? Yeah, okay, we
2:34:59
the children. If I'm saying you
2:35:03
trust that no longer exists. Remember we the
2:35:05
trust dissolved and they sold all their assets
2:35:07
and we had to buy it back. So we yeah,
2:35:09
we are in control. So the
2:35:13
things that but obviously there's still bodleg people
2:35:15
out there. But the things that you see, we have our family
2:35:17
seal there and you can see that so
2:35:20
ours. So like for instance, Marley Coffee
2:35:22
is of family business. House Mary
2:35:24
is a family business. De Zion Roots is a
2:35:26
family business. The Room Money Beach House.
2:35:29
It's my thing. But I'm
2:35:32
smart enough to make that.
2:35:33
A family business, you dig, because
2:35:35
you know, I'm nothing without my family.
2:35:37
So is that a dispersed thing to the family.
2:35:40
What is like business like the financials
2:35:43
do you dis first?
2:35:44
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because we're we're the
2:35:46
directors of the company, so you keep everybody
2:35:49
included. Yeah, all the family members are
2:35:51
part of the business. But you said it's smart, Like it's smart
2:35:53
to keep everything in the family businesses,
2:35:55
you know.
2:35:55
So things that you see, we we are the operators
2:35:58
of our family business, you know, and sister
2:36:01
brother Ziggy after big them up because
2:36:04
they manage all these things. And we work
2:36:06
with c A you know that company. They're they're pretty
2:36:08
good at managing the I P. So some
2:36:10
of these new entities that we're creating, like you
2:36:12
know, Marty Coffee is one of them.
2:36:14
So they managed that.
2:36:16
Marley Coffee, that's my baby he's always
2:36:18
going to hear that ringing in your ears. Coffee
2:36:20
I've been but this is drink. Yeah,
2:36:23
yeah, we drink coffee too. I'm
2:36:25
gonna send you my address.
2:36:26
I got you.
2:36:27
You You have coffee for the rest of your life,
2:36:29
both of you. Well, well, hold
2:36:32
on. I'm
2:36:34
gonna give you coffee when I can the
2:36:36
rest of our lives. When I can, when I
2:36:38
can, when I can. That's
2:36:44
the London that j'amaking right there. He can speak,
2:36:46
he can speak to you in London,
2:36:50
London, man. Wow,
2:36:59
yeah, right
2:37:02
right right in the corner, right right
2:37:05
in the corner. I remember coming and seeing you. How
2:37:08
how was I as a human being? Was that a nice
2:37:10
guy?
2:37:18
Because you know why, I have to live up to this
2:37:20
thing, man, And I'm telling you it's
2:37:23
tougher than you think.
2:37:24
The thing you tell it's not a burden for my day. It's my brothers
2:37:26
and sisters.
2:37:27
Man.
2:37:28
That's what I told you about the burden. But it's
2:37:31
them.
2:37:32
It's like even playing football, I was like, I can't
2:37:34
see I can't let my brothers see me
2:37:36
get knocked on my back, Like.
2:37:39
Like what the happen out there?
2:37:41
Who that? Who's that guy?
2:37:42
Like I can't. I gotta lie.
2:37:44
I can't let them see me. They can't
2:37:46
see me weak and they can't see me. They
2:37:49
can't see me defeated, you dig. So
2:37:51
that's like, that's who I have to be. My standards
2:37:53
are to my my brothers and sisters. Is
2:37:56
like, yeah, Mama, rita, like they
2:37:58
hold it down, they hold the mantle. So I got to like
2:38:00
uphold that. Like I really
2:38:03
like when I when I do things in my mind, like Eve,
2:38:05
when you hear me drinking on your your damn
2:38:07
drink.
2:38:08
Champs, I'm gonna get in trouble later.
2:38:10
My brother Ziggy just talking about, Yeah,
2:38:14
you can't be drinking Bloody
2:38:16
Mary's in the morning. I'm like, there's
2:38:18
a morning drink, sir. So
2:38:23
that was one of my last questions. I don't know what I'm
2:38:26
gonna spell. Great guy might be the same question,
2:38:28
how many times do you get mistaken for your
2:38:31
brothers?
2:38:32
Oh?
2:38:32
Gosh, man, all the time, all
2:38:36
my life. But it's cool because it's what we are.
2:38:39
When they come on to you like you want
2:38:42
hey Marty's.
2:38:44
Like, okay, when I did, I
2:38:48
was doing this thing for Marley Coffee.
2:38:50
Okay.
2:38:50
So there's a line around.
2:38:54
There's a line around the building, right.
2:38:57
I just remember hearing who's
2:39:00
he again?
2:39:01
Is that Ziggy?
2:39:03
I just but I was like, you know, no, I'm Rohan.
2:39:06
I'm Marty coffee guy, the farmer.
2:39:09
You don't have a coffee story. But
2:39:12
it's cool because that's just what
2:39:15
it is, you dig and like it's like even
2:39:17
being in Paris, right, and they were doing
2:39:19
this red carpet thing for the movie and walking
2:39:22
sicks Siggy.
2:39:22
I'm like, no, Ziggy's coming, man. I'm
2:39:26
like, no, man, he's coming, man, I'm going inside.
2:39:29
Like so it's cool though, but I'm
2:39:32
not Ziggy and Steven, Damion, Julian and
2:39:34
kim On and Robert. You know, I'm Rohan
2:39:37
someoneey let you know, no, I'm Roman or no
2:39:39
Ziggas soon come, you know what I mean.
2:39:41
But it's nice. It's irin because
2:39:44
we're all the same people and you all look alike. Though
2:39:46
it's just if I was
2:39:48
would be racist if I was white, but I'm
2:39:50
black. Can still be racist.
2:39:53
You can still be racis looking like your
2:39:56
father got some great fun right
2:39:58
now?
2:39:58
Bro? Yeah, I
2:40:00
do look in a great way. That's
2:40:03
that's greatness.
2:40:04
It's true, the family of God, it's
2:40:06
the energy.
2:40:09
It's true.
2:40:11
Because you know, we all think that we
2:40:14
think alike.
2:40:15
We're seven brothers, seven different minds,
2:40:17
but our aim is highly slessed at at first
2:40:19
Rastafari and like you
2:40:22
hear my brothers, you talk about being good
2:40:24
humans, you know, so we all
2:40:27
aspire to be good people, good humans,
2:40:29
and so we kind of judge
2:40:31
each other.
2:40:32
I don't.
2:40:32
We don't judge like that, but we kind of rub
2:40:35
off on each other in a way where we act like each
2:40:37
other because we like how each other flex,
2:40:39
we like how each other do.
2:40:41
So we like each other just because our were of life.
2:40:43
And even though our big sisters like Cidella
2:40:45
and Sharon, we like them
2:40:47
because they're great mothers and they're
2:40:49
great teachers, the great leaders, the great CEOs,
2:40:52
they're great operators. So we respect
2:40:55
that, and we respect just nature.
2:40:57
And we know that in human nature it's
2:41:00
kings and queens. So we're of the kings
2:41:02
and the women's of the queen. So
2:41:04
we honor the women as queen as they are,
2:41:07
and we walk as the kings.
2:41:08
That we are. God, damn it, damn what make
2:41:10
Let me just say.
2:41:14
We couldn't have ended the better way.
2:41:17
Really really respect
2:41:20
you, your legacy, your family, everybody,
2:41:26
everything that comes with it. Man.
2:41:28
You know, we wanted to give you your flowers. You
2:41:31
deserve your flowers. You
2:41:34
earned your flowers. You are your own legend.
2:41:36
And right, oh yeah, thank
2:41:39
you, thank you thinking, and we.
2:41:41
Wanted to share that in front of everybody,
2:41:44
in front of the public, because it's
2:41:46
real. Ship man. Great, I'm
2:41:49
gonna go. I'm gonna go go hang out your hotel
2:41:51
and be honest.
2:41:51
Can I smoke?
2:41:54
No?
2:41:54
Not in the room weekends? You
2:41:57
got balconies, right, pardon
2:41:59
motherfucker about.
2:42:01
You know, tweets on and
2:42:04
just like anywhere else, we're responsible
2:42:07
for our actions and we do as
2:42:09
we see fit as how we see life.
2:42:11
So if we want to burn, we know how to burn where
2:42:13
we wanted burn. And yeah, we respect
2:42:16
them how to burn.
2:42:17
Bro.
2:42:18
Yeah, I'll be seeing you in Hawaii.
2:42:20
You you different by
2:42:22
the way. On my brother, I
2:42:25
couldn't forget this, okay, Bro.
2:42:27
I did bring two items from my brother, items
2:42:30
that I produce and create and
2:42:33
it's my lion order and line.
2:42:35
Order and hopefully these
2:42:37
are so so
2:42:40
this is inspired by this change right
2:42:44
here?
2:42:44
Yeah.
2:42:44
Absolutely, I decided to do things the right way.
2:42:47
That's a rock Crystal that we're using
2:42:49
right there, and that would look
2:42:51
at finance finance.
2:42:53
Yeah, so this.
2:42:55
Yeah, so this is line order stuff, you know what I mean,
2:42:58
movement, line order, and we believe in good
2:43:01
quality things.
2:43:01
Here, I got them monder the trade, which is made from not
2:43:04
ceramic but personally, and I believe.
2:43:06
In good quality things.
2:43:07
So I got a lot of class the classes
2:43:09
first, yo, Yeah, because why not.
2:43:12
We're kings, you know, so we deserve to
2:43:14
live as kings and be as clean
2:43:16
as possible and try to do the things in the
2:43:18
right way. So we want
2:43:21
to live as kings as we are. And that's why
2:43:23
always say lion order non denomination
2:43:26
because Rastafarai is truly that
2:43:28
because the Russ means
2:43:30
head and the tar fire eye means
2:43:32
the creature of the one being. So we're
2:43:34
in charge of self. And that's what we know
2:43:37
from the lion. The lion is always a lion.
2:43:39
Every single day it wakes up, a lion,
2:43:41
goes to sleep a lion. It's never not
2:43:43
a lion. So we represent the lion
2:43:45
order movement. So that's line order and
2:43:48
my brother.
2:43:51
Let's let's do it.
2:43:55
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