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Episode 398 w/ Rohan Marley

Released Friday, 23rd February 2024
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Episode 398 w/ Rohan Marley

Episode 398 w/ Rohan Marley

Episode 398 w/ Rohan Marley

Episode 398 w/ Rohan Marley

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And this drinks chants, motherfucky podcast man. He's

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a legendary queens rapper.

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He ain't agree.

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That is your boy in O r E. He's a Miami

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Drink up, motherfucker? Would

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good be hobodies?

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What it should be?

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This is your boy in O r E? What up is dj

0:47

E f N?

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And this is mill to take me crazy wor Happy Hour drink

0:50

Champs Happy Hours up. Now,

0:55

when you speak about this

0:58

person that we were introducing, we

1:00

talk about, oh shit, we didn't even have to champagne and we still

1:02

be so excited to start. We just went this

1:05

is royalty. When I say royalty,

1:07

this is real, real royalty.

1:12

The man owns a hotel. Father's

1:15

a legend,

1:17

legend.

1:20

You gotta say legend icon. It's

1:24

crazy about it. Dropping a movie.

1:26

On Valentine's today and

1:29

today and today is

1:32

Bob fucking Molly's birthday.

1:37

And we got in case you don't know who

1:39

we're talking about, were talking about the one the

1:41

only first

1:47

off, I gotta to have a drink till till Bob

1:49

Molly.

1:50

You know.

1:52

You know what's the crazy thing is a

1:57

lot of us felt like Bob

1:59

mar It was our father. So

2:02

it's like you shared him

2:04

with the world because like

2:06

there's no place on earth I

2:09

can't go and Bob Marley record

2:12

won't play no place. And let

2:14

me tell you something me, I've tested it. I

2:16

lived by my white people. I tested it myself.

2:20

You can play that music at a disrespectful

2:23

level. You can play it all

2:25

the way up. There's not one person that's gonna

2:27

say turn it down, not one.

2:30

I've tried it numerous times with the

2:32

cool white people, with the people who look

2:34

racist, for the people who might

2:36

not be, but they are. They used to be

2:38

in the maund and I put on any

2:41

you have been with me, you've been with me and

2:43

with his dreads and his dreads,

2:46

and they don't get offended.

2:48

Dress.

2:49

That's like, yes, did you ever realize

2:51

how much of global music he was

2:53

making?

2:54

You know?

2:56

To your point still growing up

2:58

right, I had to come to terms

3:00

with what you just said, you know what I mean, being that

3:03

you know our father, it is not just.

3:07

My father, you know what I mean.

3:09

So one a time I had to really like be

3:12

like wow, you know, and

3:14

it was a point in life where there was an instance

3:17

that kind of kind of put

3:19

us in our place.

3:21

And it was one day.

3:23

Most of the times at Hope Prode in

3:25

Jamaica, at my dad's place, everyone

3:28

come check him, you know, like if

3:30

you need any type of help, you know, utes

3:33

from the streets. This particular

3:35

day though, these guys Hope

3:39

Bob my museum what it's called today,

3:42

But these youths right growing

3:44

up there were three boys, but there are

3:46

also acrobats. So during

3:49

the week they'll come to Hope pro and they

3:51

do all kind of flips and singing.

3:54

You know everybody

3:56

no.

3:58

On the hustle you watch the wind Street, Yeah,

4:01

you know the good boys.

4:03

Okay.

4:03

So one Sunday, now my

4:06

brother and I Stephen, we're in

4:08

Hope Rod and you know, this is a Sunday

4:10

man.

4:12

And they showed up at the gate. So

4:15

we kind of walked down.

4:16

To the gate and kind

4:18

of told them, I said, we said, listen

4:20

today, it's it's

4:23

our day.

4:24

You know, you can't take take

4:26

his own guy.

4:29

We didn't say that, but so but

4:31

our dad he was kind of watching us

4:33

from upstairs, so he called

4:36

us, Stephen Rohan, come

4:38

upstairs, go upstairs.

4:40

Now, he said, you

4:42

see those boys outside, let

4:45

them inside.

4:46

And this is the street guys. Okay.

4:48

And at the time there was.

4:49

A guy like on Sundays the ice cream

4:51

man come around and he write a little fudgy

4:53

fudgy write a little bike, you know, with the fudge

4:55

on the back, the ice cream on the back. He

4:57

says, see the boys go downstairs by

5:00

them all ice cream and watch them

5:02

eat ice cream.

5:03

So, you know, as.

5:04

Youth, and you know, my father is kind of

5:06

is you know, when he talks, he talks strong,

5:09

so you're kind of shaking. So

5:12

but what we realize is that our father

5:14

really was trying to teach us a lesson

5:16

that it wasn't just about

5:19

you know, his children on the inside.

5:22

It's about the children that don't have anymore,

5:24

you know what I mean. So right

5:27

then and there we learned the principles

5:29

about you know, when you have, you have to share.

5:32

That was a and yeah, and that's

5:34

and that's kind of us. His rule to

5:37

those youths. It wasn't even about us.

5:39

It's about, like you said, how those

5:41

youths. So my father in

5:43

regards to what you do for them as

5:46

youth just growing up, you know.

5:48

So it was we're kind of in the way.

5:50

He didn't come to see us.

5:53

But I'm gonna be bounce

5:55

around a little bit because when

5:57

you look at all these bioptery movies,

5:59

these these pictures. Yeah, and one

6:02

of the people that say one of the most

6:04

most accurvated, most on point one is the

6:06

Straight out of Compton one. And everyone is saying

6:09

that's because you know, ice Cube and

6:12

people were there to somewhat

6:14

guide them to what to talk about. Is

6:16

this something that you had to do with this movie that because

6:19

you know, the family as a whole, this.

6:21

This movie right our

6:24

brother Ziggy, big brother Ziggy. It's

6:27

been in the works for five years.

6:28

Oh wow.

6:29

You know he's also the.

6:30

One that was mainly

6:32

behind Marley's documentary.

6:34

I'll just watched that yeah on the Sheriff.

6:37

No, not that one that went Marley's call.

6:39

That one is we don't know who did that one,

6:41

but it's out there. But as

6:44

far as family, you know, and

6:46

then this one now Finally when

6:49

Ziggy, you know, did all

6:51

the research, find the right people

6:53

that the cast and all the things that he needed

6:55

for the film, got the money he needed

6:58

to make the film happen, you know,

7:00

he did that and most

7:03

importantly the relationship

7:06

that we have when normally the cast members, but

7:09

the main actor, the actress, the

7:11

producers and some of the directors. It was

7:13

just very very much

7:15

an intimate film, you know, and

7:17

very personable because we're

7:20

able to kind of talk

7:22

to Kingsley about, you know,

7:24

some of our dad's ways

7:26

and like attitudes,

7:30

mannerism, and

7:32

Kingsley himself he's.

7:33

So pointing on as an

7:35

actor, you know what I mean.

7:36

He means well,

7:39

just as.

7:39

A yeah, because of craft, you know, that's

7:41

a scraft, but to be able to tap

7:43

in and reach that

7:45

level where it's truly impressive, bro,

7:48

and we love that. And this film, as

7:50

he said, it's really a family certified

7:54

family made, you know, Ziggie,

7:56

Sidela, Mama, Rita, the entire

7:59

family, myself, Stephen, you know, we're

8:01

we're always there and support all the brothers, sisters,

8:04

So it's really a family unting

8:07

as well as my dad's friends, right

8:10

the sons of the musicians are playing

8:12

their dads. A

8:15

lot of Yeah, it's a lot of costs

8:18

is Jamaica. And then again,

8:21

the amount of people that were able to like

8:25

get a job in Jamaica because of the

8:27

movie your cousin the.

8:28

Movie is another good thing. We're probably that.

8:30

So he's still working from heaven. He's still working

8:32

from heaven. So

8:38

that's one of the things that me

8:41

knowing that I was going to interview you, I was just

8:43

doing search like a lot of your father's

8:46

concerts. And one

8:48

thing that you can tell,

8:52

everybody claimed Bob Molly, white

8:55

people, black people,

8:58

like everyone felt that a

9:00

piece of him, you know what I mean, like

9:02

that, that's that's crazy.

9:05

Yeah, the

9:07

main thing is is about the

9:10

truth, you know, and a man

9:12

like our father, this

9:14

man lived for that purpose, you know.

9:17

And when you're you're a musician,

9:20

you know, you you know the thing music

9:23

in general, and you know what music is. It's a vehicle

9:26

and we choose to deliver the message or we choose

9:28

to deliver it and we choose to say what we.

9:30

Want to say.

9:31

We see you Rastafar, I know, and

9:34

what that means to our father and

9:36

us as Rastafari people, us as a people

9:39

in general, human beings, you know, and

9:41

the ones that really want to represent that human

9:44

being. Movement is like that, like

9:46

so to sol a movement that's

9:48

kind of all father, and that's what he really

9:50

stand up for is a man of his word, like

9:53

what he says, what he does, you know, and still

9:55

does it, you know. And and that's the important

9:57

thing. So I feel like said that

10:01

truth within that message is

10:04

that connection to a people

10:06

that seek a certain way

10:08

of life, wants this type

10:11

of liberty, you know,

10:13

because it's a passion within the liberty, you

10:15

know. And the most important thing

10:18

is the truth that we

10:20

utter, you know. So when you find people

10:22

that stick to them things that it kind of

10:24

resonates to everyone. And that's why

10:26

we say one love, you know.

10:28

Yeah, because that became more than music. It transcended

10:30

the music. It became a global movement, absolutely,

10:35

yeah. And it's a god movement.

10:38

You know.

10:39

It's funny that you said that I was

10:41

watching the documentary, and I kid

10:43

you not, I'm not being

10:45

funny. I thought I was

10:47

looking at Jesus man. I literally

10:50

was looking at Bob like this is what

10:52

I.

10:53

Think Jesus looked like seeing

10:55

and with Rastafar eye you

10:58

know, that's really.

10:59

The way of life.

11:00

And it's and.

11:01

Why we why we resonate

11:04

like that, and why we have this consonance

11:06

and and this presence is because

11:08

of the Old Testament and.

11:11

As Rasta for people who try to follow.

11:13

The naza right vowel that we have the Nazarene

11:16

and yes, subscribes himself as a naz right. So

11:19

we we try or or or

11:22

daily life as much as we can. We're not perfect,

11:24

you know, but our daily life is to follow

11:26

that order. And it's a Nazara, it's

11:29

a nazer right vowel. You know we were

11:31

relax.

11:31

You know, there raise on.

11:33

Your face certain things, what you eat

11:35

and this so Roster's

11:39

we catch with shrimp every now and

11:49

those everything you go through as you growing up,

11:52

you're not supposed to eat that, you know, that's

11:54

the kind of so you you

11:57

as raster fire people, as Jamaicans

11:59

in Jenner, we make fun of what you

12:01

eat, your rasta,

12:04

don't do this, don't do that, and then you

12:06

have to and then again with the Marlin name,

12:08

with that Rastafari, it's

12:11

double.

12:13

You must have never had a glissy before in your life,

12:15

right, what's that?

12:16

Frank? What's that.

12:22

I can't say that.

12:23

I can't.

12:34

Based on what you're saying about, like it's

12:36

double for you. Did it ever feel

12:38

like a burden the legacy

12:41

that that was like put upon you

12:44

and your and your siblings.

12:51

I would never see a burden because it's

12:53

really the I would never see a burden

12:56

because it's really the way of the truth, you know,

12:58

and it's really discipline and

13:02

just wanted to keep your father's ways. So

13:05

it's really an alignment and proud

13:08

of it because you

13:10

know, we all, you know,

13:12

read the Bible, we all do these things.

13:14

So if you can find a way of life that's

13:17

alignment towards that and

13:19

as a culture is a lifestyle which is

13:21

such we're proud of that, you know.

13:23

So it's never a burden.

13:25

It's a lesson and it's a way of life

13:28

and it's the way we choose to live and the way

13:30

we want to live because we feel

13:32

good about it.

13:32

You know.

13:33

So it's a goodness and it's like

13:35

the way of the lion, like

13:38

a king order.

13:40

Real self.

13:43

Now, I was watching going

13:46

back to the documentary, at one point Bob

13:48

moved to London and

13:51

to this day, to this day, it's

13:53

a lot of Rastafaris in Jamaican

13:56

people in London. Is that when they when they first

13:58

started going there, when Bob went there the.

14:00

Column No remember.

14:05

Remember like World War two, Jamaicans

14:09

fought in World War two with the British

14:11

because you know said it's

14:14

it's you know, it's once underneath

14:17

the British Commonwealth.

14:19

Right, So Jamaicans travel there because

14:21

at one point before late sixties

14:24

seven, early seventies, Jamaicans

14:26

and need a visa to go to London. They did, right,

14:29

wow, so a lot of work and such

14:31

and such.

14:32

So a lot of four parents are in London,

14:34

you know.

14:35

You know, it was a regular thing for Jamaican

14:37

families to receive things from England,

14:40

like before America.

14:43

Drain our friend Dre he's from London. Yeah,

14:47

that's why.

14:48

That's Jamaican culture in London is

14:50

like really close that you

14:52

know, even as slang. So it

14:55

was and then again music in

14:58

general, you know, but my father

15:00

went there.

15:02

With like intention to make music

15:06

like.

15:06

Really an exile because of the assassination

15:08

attempt.

15:09

To exit this album right yeah,

15:12

yes, yeah, you know you know remember you you're

15:14

very well studied, you

15:17

know.

15:18

Yeah, don't let me. I

15:21

got you. I got you pardon,

15:23

pardon, I

15:25

know normally drink what

15:28

we praising you. Today our show was about giving

15:30

people they flowers we want to give you. We

15:34

want to give your flowers. Right there

15:36

snoop like you

15:39

know what I'm saying.

15:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So

15:43

on to drink Champs, to

15:45

drink yes on this on

15:47

this blessed day that's our Father's

15:50

days, the fire Right Day, our day,

15:52

People's Day, that's right, drink Camps day.

15:54

We're giving thanks to the most izing period Magty

15:57

Empire highlighted slas.

16:01

Sometimes m

16:05

h.

16:06

I remember p Pardoner

16:09

drinking yes. So I

16:11

remember you know rappers

16:14

right seeing having we're having

16:16

a love hate relationship with our city

16:19

and we remember me thinking that that that's

16:21

something that's new. But I

16:23

remember seeing just now on an

16:26

interview where Bob was just done with Jamaica.

16:28

At one point he was like, man, I

16:31

ain't messing with Jamaica and I was like, damn, Bob,

16:34

we do the ship that I'm going through then, and

16:36

I'm like I'm like wow. And

16:39

that's where he went to London and that's when he started

16:42

went to South Africa.

16:43

Imagine this right, It's like I

16:47

watched like for instance, the movie and I'm

16:49

not going to refer to this movie because something just happened

16:52

to me in London was

16:55

Paris, you know, for the premiere,

16:58

and I'm watching that exact reference

17:00

that you just made in being told

17:03

in the movie, you know, and it made me very

17:05

emotional because

17:07

of what my father said and what he represents.

17:10

You know, it made me truly emotional because

17:14

here is the man where his gates

17:16

are open to every and everyone. He

17:18

came from nothing, you know, and everything

17:21

that he ever created or stood

17:23

for represent the people. Pardon

17:26

me, And here's this man

17:29

that's helping so much people and

17:31

the same people that you're helping, the

17:33

same people that you're fighting

17:35

to uplift and bring

17:38

together, allow

17:40

themselves to be manipulated by

17:43

a systematic way by politics

17:46

to feel that it's right to try and take a man's

17:48

life.

17:49

You know.

17:50

So that's really the

17:53

emotion of that. So when my father saying done

17:55

with Jamaica, it was.

17:57

In the moment he's never done with Jamaica,

18:00

you know what I mean, In the moment says

18:02

like it kind of it kind of screwed.

18:05

You know.

18:05

It's a rule for that, and

18:08

you know, so you take out a journey and

18:10

I sing some love songs. He's

18:12

like, you know, this revolution might be a

18:15

one month team.

18:17

You know what's ill about that is

18:20

when you look at the political history

18:22

in Jamaica, it's

18:24

like almost it's almost like bloods and

18:26

crips the politics and

18:29

a lot of the lot of the rest of the world. Like

18:33

I've seen you you see Randy Aka from

18:35

Depth jam Jamaica. Since I

18:37

did a video with Lexus and Wayne

18:40

Wonder and Tivoli Gardens, the most scaredest

18:42

I have ever been in my life, the most scaredest I have ever been. Like

18:44

literally, this was what

18:48

do you call it? Body mon Town Jarrison,

18:52

Like everybody had a gun on them

18:56

and I was like, and they told me, they said,

18:58

man, you're safe, but I was like,

19:00

I just didn't feel safe.

19:04

But still because nothing nothing

19:06

with you, right, I mean remember

19:08

Jimmy and people are people have principal

19:11

when they're being rued, they're ruted principal.

19:15

I go out, they told me against black Boy, you

19:17

know me that off top.

19:18

So was I landed in Jamaica. This lady she

19:20

came right over me. She she jumped over my

19:23

whole foot with the shopping cart and then

19:25

she looked at me like what I want, Yankee? Boy, you

19:28

got it?

19:31

Got laugh.

19:37

Anyone else I seen that, know more all over the place. I've

19:40

seen the Chinese Jamaican Oh yeah,

19:43

you know. And boy was he he was offended.

19:45

I was like, you we don't talk like that.

19:52

Years in

19:54

Jamaica, years as the Indian

19:57

Indian people. So we have for

20:00

fifth generation Chinese. And you know, so

20:02

a lot of my friends, you know, they look

20:04

like you and I they look like you.

20:07

You know what I mean?

20:08

And last thing one shout

20:11

out Waggy Tea here my

20:14

first turn off another Chinese Jamaican Jamaica.

20:19

Jamaican restaurants are Jamaican.

20:21

M VP records.

20:22

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah

20:25

big in the culture, super huge,

20:27

super huge. Tager bone is

20:30

real. Not

20:32

the way, not the way we tread it out. Yeah.

20:38

So you got you got this hotel, Like

20:40

I believe you're the only person I know that owns

20:43

the hotel. You you flost on me one night He's like, hey,

20:45

man, you know I got this hotel in Mexico.

20:46

You know me?

20:49

I was like that was that was an

20:52

entrepreneur.

20:53

He's an entrepreneur world and everything

20:56

you do in life. I believe in

20:58

opportunities, you know, and everyone

21:01

always say, oh, come, we don't have one in Jamaica.

21:03

I said, well, no one in Jamaica offered me, you

21:07

know, so I took the opportunity. And

21:09

it started long ago with

21:11

the same malikof relationship. And

21:13

it's the same partner as a five hotel group.

21:16

They were building a hotel and they wanted me to be a

21:18

part of it.

21:19

And you know, I take. I took a look

21:21

at the place that's the.

21:25

Right outside of cankun a place called Portamrellus

21:27

Okay, between Cankuon and Pli

21:30

Carmen, Okay. So like man, I'll

21:33

say, forty five minutes from touloum Okay cool,

21:35

twenty minutes.

21:36

From the airport.

21:37

Oh wow.

21:37

As he land in Kankuon, was right there, nice

21:40

beach protected area, the

21:42

reef is protected, the mangols are

21:44

protected nicely, the fishing village

21:48

and ninety two rooms and

21:50

you know, so it's a tiki very

21:53

so very so let's do. There's a great opportunity.

21:55

Opened in twenty twenty. It was

21:57

a skier with all the thinks

22:00

that were happening, absolutely, but

22:03

it survived and with the

22:05

help of a lot of my friends and I and

22:07

I that's supporting one in each other, you

22:10

know, spread the message and it got out there more

22:12

and you know, people seem to like going down there in Mexico.

22:15

And I like it too.

22:16

I absolutely love It's.

22:22

Yeah, tig up to Romary Beach House. Well,

22:26

it's really the fives and

22:29

Romary Beach House, you know what I mean. It's a collaboration

22:32

type of efforts.

22:33

Collaborative And had you been going to Mexico like

22:36

before that, Yeah, not

22:40

really not.

22:42

It wasn't my thing.

22:43

But I met these I met these brothers in

22:46

New York City in like early twenty

22:49

sixteen, and at the time,

22:51

I was really focused on Marty Coffee and I was trying

22:53

to build some coffee shops. So the

22:56

Brethren, you

22:58

know, hey, we're building a hotel. You

23:00

like to put one of your coffee shops in our hotel. So

23:03

I took the opportunity again and I said, yeah, I'd love

23:05

that. And then you go see this just to put the coffee in the

23:07

hotel. Yeah at first, Okay.

23:08

So they did that and then they said, you

23:10

know, we're building.

23:11

This hotel where we're going to open up a new project.

23:13

We're building a new hotel on the beach

23:16

in PORTUMARRELLUS. It's really a little

23:18

you know, it's a smaller hotel. Would

23:20

you like to you know, we don't know what to call it.

23:22

What do you want to?

23:22

What do you thought when you think about calling Roman

23:25

the beach House. We came with that name

23:27

because you know, it was on the beach, near

23:32

the beach.

23:33

It's on the beach.

23:35

It's academy on the

23:38

Caribbean. Yeah, man, So

23:41

we love it down there, and it's really nice

23:44

because when you think about Mexico

23:46

and then place, you have to think about Africa and

23:48

Afro Mexico because.

23:50

From the early times after all mixed. And then I learned

23:52

a lot too, because I learned that

23:55

when I found myself in Mexico. I started to realize

23:58

that, wow, we're all part

24:00

of the I'maridian culture

24:02

from the early times, because that's

24:04

the Americas. So it's a part of the Caribbean.

24:07

So then I go again and look at Barbados.

24:09

It's right there, and that's everything. It's

24:12

part of the whole i'm

24:14

Aridian you know, this part

24:16

of the.

24:17

World, you know what I mean.

24:18

So it's just really extending the culture

24:20

and realizing that earth is a lot and its fullness

24:23

thereof so wherever we are, wherever

24:26

we go, it is home. And

24:28

we felt very good there and we feel at home in

24:30

Mexico as well like anywhere else.

24:32

That's yeah, man, I love it. I love Mexico.

24:35

Big up, big up to Mexico.

24:39

So when I when I researched,

24:41

like you know, the stuff that

24:44

I know about Rastafarian culture, it

24:46

brings you to Helly Selassie, which brings

24:48

you to Ethiopia. Right, what brings

24:50

you to Africa?

24:52

Right?

24:52

What is the correlation? And

24:55

we know all men come from Africa?

24:57

Right, but wise is

25:00

like Jamaica and Africa's relationship

25:02

like, so is it

25:04

be close to the highly Selassie?

25:07

Well, it started with Marcus Garvey

25:09

Marcus, that's right. And

25:11

then you know those early

25:14

times in general as cultural

25:17

people and the

25:19

history of Jamaica with like all of the Maroons,

25:23

the early Maroons who fought against the British

25:25

for their independence and never got conquered by

25:27

the Brits.

25:28

So we were always like rebellious

25:30

people, you know.

25:32

So during the time when Marcus

25:34

Goviy early I

25:36

said before the nineteen.

25:38

Thirties, when Marcus Govey was.

25:40

Healing and building his movement

25:43

in Harlem and throughout the world and

25:45

studying in England and traveling

25:47

the earth. Marcus Govey

25:49

learned about the crowning of the Emperor

25:52

highly s last in the First which would take place

25:54

in nineteen thirty. So Marcus

25:56

Garvey being Jamaica and returned to the Jamaica

26:00

and told the black people of Jamaica that

26:03

we black people in the Western

26:05

Hemisphere should look towards

26:07

the east for the crowning

26:09

of a black king, our

26:12

King, our Christ.

26:13

And our God Almighty.

26:15

So it says in Revelation that you will

26:17

be crowned king of kings, lords

26:19

of lords, concurrent line of a tribe

26:21

of Judah, elect.

26:22

Of God himself.

26:24

So when Marcus Govi said that, iron,

26:26

I know, as black people in the Western

26:29

Hemisphere, there's another brethren whose

26:31

name is Howell, who's really

26:33

started the Rastafari movement.

26:36

Leonard Howell. Don't

26:38

quote me on the exact name.

26:41

Google.

26:41

Yeah, you can find this name on the Google.

26:44

But then the movement started and then

26:47

we as black people in the Western Hemisphere

26:49

started to look towards Ethiopia.

26:52

The crowning of the King as our

26:54

God, and we started to follow that

26:56

the ways of Ethiopia because we knew

26:58

that now that me and Ethiopia

27:00

is the first place to really follow,

27:03

yes, as Christ. In four AD

27:05

when the Eunich met Philip and told

27:07

Queen Candace about this great man,

27:10

this great man that he met and blah blah blah

27:12

and such and such was Philip who was a follower

27:15

of Christ. And then he started Christianity

27:17

that time. Then, you know, so we as

27:19

rasta Pharai people, we look to Ethiopia

27:22

and that's the Orthodox Church, which is

27:24

the faith of Rastapharai, if you ever asked

27:27

about that. So that's when it really started

27:29

in nineteen thirty the crowning of

27:31

the King of Kings, and everyone knows

27:33

this in the world because every nation

27:36

was there that day and everyone

27:38

ad to kneel and bow to that emperor.

27:40

You know.

27:41

Yes, it was a two hundred and twenty fifth

27:43

lineage of King David

27:46

Seed of Jesse, and those two

27:48

hundred and twenty five kings are the kings that rule

27:50

the earth. So when we talk about

27:52

earth, we have to talk about the olden days

27:55

and the Biblical ways. So we follow

27:58

the King David strown. We

28:00

didn't follow Babylon thrown, which was always

28:02

trying to fight against King David Shroan,

28:05

if you know what I mean, Like you know all

28:07

the constantinoples, all

28:10

their Roman Empire, all

28:12

these guys that never stopped, you

28:15

know. So we have Rastafari

28:17

people. We represent King David thron

28:20

and that is highly Selastic thrown.

28:21

And that's how we come to say highest

28:23

Selassie is who we calls

28:27

in people. Majesty is what.

28:29

We call the Almighty God himself

28:31

and a living flesh. So that's how

28:33

we were able to like manifest

28:36

our flesh this way by that teaching

28:38

of this great man who

28:40

manifests the God within himself at the highest

28:42

order. So we believe upon

28:45

that and we live upon that. And those are where

28:47

we get our teachings. And those are the teachings

28:49

we follow. So other people have other teachings that they

28:51

follow. And sometimes you stumble,

28:54

like your teaching make it make you stumble.

28:56

This one keeps us more upright, I

28:59

didn't have while he was still alive? Right, who

29:02

classie? I wasn't

29:05

he still alive?

29:05

When I when?

29:06

When when people start to follow him in Jamaica.

29:08

His majesty is forever living, and absolutely

29:11

so. But his myjest is forever living.

29:13

You know.

29:13

Yeah, yes, I.

29:15

Think they they I think they did a study and they said

29:17

that his blood is actually related

29:19

to Jesus Christ.

29:23

Say, that's why

29:25

I mentioned to you the lineage of King David. And

29:28

then within that lineage there's two hundred and twenty

29:30

five king. And you have Abraham, Moses,

29:32

and you have Yes Sirs Christ himself, you have like

29:35

h like you

29:37

have Salomon, you have David and his

29:40

majesties are part of that lineage.

29:42

And that's why I talked about King David's thrown.

29:44

And that's same as Christ in his

29:46

kingly character, right, and Christ

29:48

in the flesh. So all the Christ, all

29:51

the Christ consciousness, the great kings of this earth,

29:53

who took on the Christ consciousness. Who

29:55

are the heads of this government?

29:57

Who have who have the shoulders of the almighty

29:59

God and the rule of this government with the

30:01

God law?

30:02

You know, the ancient Abramic law. You

30:04

know that's the law.

30:06

You know what I believe? Yes, look

30:09

like you don't look at me like that, girl. I believe

30:11

like in years to come, they

30:14

will talk about Tupac the same way

30:17

they will talk about like because when

30:23

you look at when you look at let me stick

30:25

with ball, when you look at the history of how he

30:29

did this, this was all righteous. This

30:31

was like you know, when you go look at all these interviews

30:33

and you go look at these everything

30:36

that he said something one time he said, they

30:40

love you so much they'll kill you. And

30:43

I was like, what the fuck because

30:47

love and hate is kind of almost

30:50

the same thing. But he said he said,

30:52

sometimes they can love you so much that they'll kill

30:54

you. And I couldn't distinguish

30:57

if he said they'll kill you like meaning

30:59

himself or all just that love

31:01

itself.

31:02

Like this is all biblical factual,

31:05

And you.

31:05

Know, he said something so important because

31:08

man himself, right, like we talk about

31:11

man. We're flesh, but man

31:14

have like an ideology, right, and

31:17

some men have good ideology and good dreams

31:19

that we tappen into a certain frequency. And

31:21

you talk about like Tupac, you know, but

31:24

we're not talking about Tupac that you see walking on the

31:26

street. We're talking about the two Pac that you see speaking

31:28

a thing, a saying as something.

31:31

And that's what each of us have as

31:33

beings in general. Right, because we have that

31:35

goodness that we're made from because we are made

31:37

from love and you have you have to

31:39

make love to produce that.

31:41

Damn. You got a lot of them out there. DMN

31:47

for real. You know, we know you

31:49

are here club, let's go.

31:52

Yeah, we love that, And it's

31:54

it's all what the ones have to say that we

31:57

try to like gravitate towards you know,

31:59

the man else and we finding good in each

32:01

other. So yeah, man, they're going

32:03

to talk about great ones that have had great

32:05

things to say and who always

32:08

wanted to uplift people. So that's

32:10

the real purpose, you know, with the upliftment

32:12

of people, you know, and when you're speaking that

32:14

yet now all the time, you know, some of the times it

32:17

kind of but the we're going to focus

32:19

on the good side of you, you know,

32:21

and that's what we all need to start doing now and

32:23

start focused on people goodness.

32:25

You know what I mean? People like too much, don't

32:27

fall I leave it up forness. Now.

32:31

Do you think do

32:34

you think the CIA was really like

32:38

like tapping into Jamaica like that, because

32:40

like when you see years later, right, you see Malcolm

32:43

X and then years later there's

32:45

actually studies that come out the show. Well,

32:47

Ceia set Malcolm X up and this

32:50

rumor has never been con form Can I ask you

32:52

a question?

32:53

Yes, o me, I'm

32:55

a you know, I'm

32:58

a tell of person where I watched

33:00

UFO.

33:02

I mean, that's what you are

33:04

about to say. It's amazing.

33:06

You can't even call it conspiracy.

33:08

They talk about it.

33:09

I went watching UFO since the early nineteen

33:12

nineties, you did so.

33:14

Anyway, when we.

33:16

Talk about Jamaica in general,

33:18

right, and we talked about trade

33:20

and waterways and entrance to

33:22

a certain system, right, the

33:24

stream, the stream of like from

33:27

how you have to travel into like

33:29

the money pool, right, you know, coming from

33:31

Africa down the street and blah blah blah, and

33:33

certain places that you have to hang out.

33:35

Right, So Jamaica is like the

33:37

little little small island is.

33:38

Right in that little you gotta pass that

33:40

place to get into the wealth, right,

33:43

the trades, the gates, it's the gateway.

33:45

Right.

33:46

So what happened in Jamaica

33:48

now in the early times when the British

33:50

Empire had a larger influence,

33:54

before this independence thing, you know,

33:56

it was you know, Jamaica was like.

33:57

A place where you really it

34:00

is not too much violence.

34:01

It wasn't now very in the

34:03

sixties, Jamaica was so peaceful

34:06

and lovely.

34:07

So when now the

34:10

whole communist movement began, you

34:13

know that thing.

34:15

And then the start now with the politicians,

34:18

when the independence came now and these two

34:20

parties started to mingle. One

34:23

was like they call him a socialist, which

34:25

was manly, and the other one was like, uh,

34:28

the prime minister, right, yeah, the two of them, the same

34:30

one that my dad, Michael Wiley and Edward

34:32

Siaga. So he was more like c

34:36

I that's right, you know, you

34:38

know, you know that. So

34:41

one though, I would say it was like

34:44

leaning towards like cubash right.

34:46

The Cuba wanted to make it to be New

34:49

Cuba, like even Jamaica

34:51

met with.

34:54

There were a lot of support there and then

34:56

the other personal So what happened was

34:59

when now the gun

35:02

trade begun for the destabilization.

35:06

They even had a gun court.

35:07

Yeah, because now you started flood the

35:09

place with guns and cocaine. But

35:12

this stabilization because they

35:14

got to destabilize the country because

35:16

of what's happening, because these people are

35:19

worried about these people having this control

35:21

because now you're messing with the horn,

35:24

right, you're messing with the money run right.

35:27

So if the if the Jamaicans become more

35:30

this way, then you're tapping into the Russia

35:32

people again where they're tapping into this

35:34

thing, and then these people are starting to

35:36

take too much control of this little home pry

35:38

here.

35:39

So that couldn't happen.

35:40

So the KGB was and so yeah,

35:42

that's the Russian, that's

35:45

the you know, the mafia, the

35:48

CIA.

35:49

Yeah and all that that.

35:51

This stabilization is when the violence

35:53

begun in the early seventies,

35:56

late late late late sixties. Now

35:58

what was the two parties j LP, DPNP

36:00

and JLP Jamaica Labor

36:03

Right Party and the People's

36:05

National Party. One color

36:07

is orange and the other one is green.

36:10

I grew up in a time where I

36:13

live in a place called Spanish Town. I'll never

36:15

forget this this when I know like

36:18

a Spanish person is like in

36:21

Spanish Town. So

36:28

let me tell you something.

36:30

This one.

36:30

I kind of knew, like my heart, like I

36:33

kind of knew I was like a good person. I

36:36

just know, I knew I was a good human being. I

36:38

think I was like ten years old and

36:41

I remember it's like it was like political

36:45

times like very strong

36:48

politics.

36:48

Right.

36:49

So these people tourists, they were driving

36:52

along this main road to get

36:54

to like Montiga Bay, and

36:56

if you did not put up the sign

36:59

of which hard to you represented

37:01

the people, they throwing stones at your car.

37:04

Oh.

37:05

I remember watching.

37:06

It, right, because that area

37:08

was a labor right area and I live in the midst

37:11

of everything, and I remember watching

37:13

this, and I remember seeing the bridge and them throwing the stones,

37:16

and I remember to my heart, I'm like, but

37:18

those people don't know nothing, Like it's

37:21

my little self.

37:22

I'm like wow. So that's when I realized

37:25

if people don't have no brain, they don't

37:27

have they they

37:29

don't know this is what

37:31

is this? It don't make no sense, you

37:34

know. So that's what happened.

37:36

And that's what the stabilized the country's

37:38

guns and foolishness of politics.

37:41

Because even when Marcus Garvey in the early times,

37:43

when Marcus Garvey was running for prime minister

37:46

of Jamaica, what they said

37:48

caused him not to be the prime minister. They

37:51

went and offered to Jamaican people free

37:53

rice and peace. People

37:57

love them, belly, it's

37:59

never heard this one really rice

38:03

and peas. So it

38:05

was offering It's a big thing in Jamaican. This

38:07

is Sunday Sunday.

38:10

Every Jamaican and every Jamaican

38:12

eat rice.

38:13

Some peas on Sunday, right, rice and

38:15

bes on chicken rice and be on this rice

38:18

and bes on that.

38:19

So it's a big thing. I've

38:25

never been stuck for. By

38:27

the way, who has the best rice and peas? Puerto

38:29

Ricans Jamaicans? Hey,

38:32

man, no,

38:34

no.

38:35

Hold on, you have rice and beans?

38:37

Yes?

38:37

Oh ship damn good point. Good

38:40

point. Did not realize that who

38:43

still got the best?

38:45

You know, when I go to Puerto Rico, I

38:47

eat rice and beans, man, you know, you

38:50

know when I'm in Jamaica, I

38:52

eat rice and peas, man.

38:53

So I never had them side by side. Yeah,

38:57

that's called up. Holy

39:01

I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it.

39:04

But listen, Haiti is not in the category Nodus

39:11

bro bro I've been seeing because I'm ain't

39:15

even trying to throw they they had in

39:17

the ring with the rice and peace that

39:19

got great rice and can't

39:21

take somebody. Hey, let me tell somebody, ship

39:24

Haiti.

39:25

Now, Haiti, you see

39:27

what there is a see cuisine

39:29

wise because well

39:31

not because off, but the

39:34

mixture with the French.

39:35

Ye see

39:37

what I'm saying. But there's no there's no Haitian vegan

39:40

food. Uh.

39:51

First boys, Nico and my first daughter

39:53

eat and Haitian. He come

39:56

bar and pressure on viill Yeah.

40:06

Eighties.

40:07

Oh man, what's

40:10

your favorite place to visit on

40:13

your spirit time? Like? For

40:15

what? For anything? Like I

40:17

have different things I think about, Okay, for

40:20

vacations, for vacation, vacation.

40:22

Okay, Well you know I love the most.

40:24

I love the ocean, you know, m So

40:26

I like going places where from vacation.

40:29

You said, not not that Sabbaticos.

40:31

Yeah, you're not right. Just

40:34

to relax, relax and hang out. That's a big

40:36

world. You want to ask you're going

40:38

to meditating

40:42

stuff? Good stuff? Well,

40:45

like let me see, Like, for instance,

40:47

I love going to Roman beats.

40:49

Of course I love that. This

40:51

year I had a chance to visit Barbados.

40:54

Barbatos, what's Brianna out there?

40:56

Man? Rihattas is like she

40:58

wasn't there, but you felt you.

41:00

Know that, believe

41:04

it.

41:04

Even though I'm not to leave, believe whatever.

41:12

He tells. I believe you call it bro no,

41:14

but for sure we had us right like

41:16

I was there.

41:17

I was into the red us vibe because she put

41:19

the place like from

41:23

tourism perspective, it's, you know,

41:25

people want to visit and because they want to see where

41:27

she lived because it's very nice and the people love

41:29

her so much.

41:30

So I love, I love, I just first time going.

41:32

There for like like

41:35

some business thing like a finn They called

41:37

it fintech like financial technology, some

41:39

something good good stuff. So that that

41:41

was out there a bunch of Caribbing people from

41:44

Latin Americas, but they just got out of the

41:46

British Yeah, yeah, yeah, the prime

41:48

minister wanted is a prime minister

41:50

know president right they broke away.

41:52

From Yeah,

41:56

everybody can't go independing now no, but

41:58

it's it's some of these guys got what they major labels,

42:03

man, Man,

42:14

listen, Haiti's still fifty fifty.

42:18

They were the first one.

42:19

I'm saying.

42:20

Yeah, they're still like

42:22

we don't know, we.

42:23

Shouldn't suppers because we

42:26

don't know if we should have.

42:28

You know that, and there he

42:31

has it. It's holding a lot

42:33

of money. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.

42:35

Port We go scratch our heads sometimes,

42:38

like we don't know why we still on this major label.

42:49

We definitely made your label, man,

42:51

Cuba become free. We were coming. We're coming,

42:53

broeh niggas you got some cube.

42:56

Your mother's Cuban, right, she was born in Cuba.

42:58

You know.

42:59

I got a lot of Cuba family and you

43:01

know my girlfriend and Cuban.

43:02

I noticed you, he said, Cuban rice and peace.

43:04

Though we don't say rice, and people say

43:08

you don't you about

43:12

food is good when

43:16

I go to the house, when I go to the house of family,

43:18

look me up nice.

43:20

Honestly, the Caribbean food is pretty much the same

43:22

thing, bro, We just call it different names.

43:24

Well, this we all plans

43:26

it.

43:26

We like we all. Ma Marita

43:28

is also Cuban. I'll

43:31

tell you this.

43:32

This is a big difference.

43:33

Though. My son went to Cuba.

43:36

Really he went to Cuban. Yeah, you didn't know that, oh,

43:38

with your wife right right right? And he called

43:40

me, he said, where's the

43:43

w dad. There

43:45

was no a c he did not it's

43:48

not its on scrib right

43:51

now. Yeah. I couldn't explain to

43:53

my son the ag this is a

43:56

few hotels everywhere, buddy, and

43:58

he especially not a was country

44:00

man.

44:01

He didn't know.

44:01

He had to learn that day to Cuba,

44:06

right, and we booked

44:09

the airbnb but I

44:14

don't know where this is going.

44:15

No, it's good, okay, but the family,

44:18

the family was there too. I

44:21

stayed with the family.

44:22

So one of them.

44:25

Let's go.

44:25

I'm churning on the veranda. So

44:28

I see the brethren pull up

44:30

in a little bicycle and he got

44:32

the bread. Oh wow, something

44:34

like what Bridgin?

44:36

What?

44:37

I said, you know you got I said, what brigand doing? He

44:39

said, Now you know they still do that where

44:42

the partitioner of the food. Yeah, they

44:44

still do that when they drive around and they give

44:46

you a certain bag of food.

44:49

Man. I was like, wow. Man.

44:52

So but it was cool with being

44:54

in Cuba and being

44:57

able to see that the people they're

44:59

amazing.

45:00

You weren't living in It

45:02

wasn't like that anymore. It

45:05

was a balance. So you can still

45:07

have that, but they still do, you know what I mean.

45:09

So it's very nice. But if you want

45:11

to see, like if you ever want to see some good

45:13

culture man and some good some

45:16

good architect gus go.

45:17

To Cuba and the

45:20

bubble and.

45:22

Also proves the point that Latinos

45:24

are of African descent.

45:26

Absolutely, there's

45:28

the culture that we have is all African descents.

45:31

A place in Porto Rico like that, Louisa. You have ever been

45:33

to Louisa. Louisa, everyone like

45:35

I'm light skinned, insidered like,

45:37

yeah, everyone is there, so it's Cuba.

45:40

It's definitely. Yeah. You know something though, I'm

45:44

one of those people were how about Columbia?

45:46

My bad? I mean, I've been there, Like

45:48

Columbia. I don't like to talk about it too much. Ship,

46:00

I'm sorry. Look at the face the

46:02

Columbia came up immediately he's

46:05

telling him, No, Columbia

46:07

too much.

46:09

I actually went there for themselves. Is

46:14

that what they call it?

46:15

No, I'm

46:18

barn from going to Columbia. Nothing

46:22

nothing, nothing bad. That's things that could

46:24

possibly happen. It happened, things

46:27

that keep

46:29

yourself out the way of trouble. Okay,

46:33

So I tried to stay away from Columbia.

46:35

Okay, you

46:37

went to me, Yeah, is beautiful.

46:40

But but when when I did visit. While

46:43

I was there, I did go

46:45

to like the Corona Communia

46:48

thirteen, I went there, the

46:50

Calera, Yes, the sites stay

46:53

I visited.

46:55

You know only two people I ever ragged about

46:58

stairs No, because tell

47:00

me we're really happy.

47:01

No, no, right,

47:05

no bragging. What

47:12

we talked about it.

47:15

There's the slums of.

47:17

The higher you go into the mountain in the hills is

47:20

the more poor it gets. What they

47:22

did in this neighborhood, this neighborhood

47:25

was violent as hell just long ago.

47:28

But they put escalators so that

47:30

they can have access to people in the slums

47:32

down to the main area to just do

47:34

regular things. I've never seen change

47:37

their lives. Is in the graffitis everywhere. Beautiful

47:39

graffiti, our colors,

47:42

yeah, I mean colors, like the buildings

47:44

are beautiful. Everything is just beautiful

47:47

there.

47:47

Yeah, all of it.

47:49

You walk up and down the steps, it's

47:52

it's literally, it's it's it's it's

47:55

escalators in the hood.

47:57

Bro, it's

47:59

a lot of walks beautiful,

48:03

all right.

48:06

He's going going to a

48:08

tinky hut on the beach getting

48:11

out.

48:12

Listen. The other day, Diego was like, he's like, hey, man,

48:15

my girl said I should go to Columbia.

48:17

He said, I don't think we should.

48:23

Were you suggested?

48:24

No?

48:26

If you've been to some bad things. Man, y'all

48:28

going for different reasons. You don't say, y'all, I

48:31

have not been to Columbia. O you my condo.

48:36

I have fun. I didn't have the egle

48:39

type of fun.

48:39

But I had some fun.

48:41

Man, then then life calm down,

48:43

and then life calm down. Okay, beautiful

48:46

people there, man getting

48:54

back to sure sure please do

48:57

please do? I

49:01

always, you

49:05

know, like I said, I said it earlier,

49:07

I always felt something attached

49:11

to your father. And

49:14

there's people to this day, right, there's

49:17

people who see me who they see me on the internet,

49:21

they have never met me before, and they and

49:24

they'll come straight up to me and be like you'll know me and

49:26

just start talking to me.

49:28

And I realized this.

49:29

Person is infatuated

49:32

who who are over the fuck they see on the internet

49:35

And they starts talking like if they

49:37

know you, they have that for a minute they know, And

49:39

then you gotta realize that this guy is psychotic.

49:41

He does he knows he does he

49:43

does because he's pointing out shit.

49:45

He's like Episode sixteen. You remember this time. It's

49:48

kind of what we signed up for though we can't.

49:50

That's kind of what we signed up How many times

49:53

are people coming up to you wanting to know stories

49:55

about your father?

49:58

I see?

50:00

Really?

50:00

Really you see something you

50:03

see? Because I am I

50:06

don't know because I I

50:09

kind of walk wide, you

50:11

know what I mean.

50:12

It's kind of I don't know.

50:14

It's like I saw, like I'm all day like

50:17

doing the same things all the time, so

50:19

I don't pay attention.

50:21

You know, we've seeing that commercial the most interesting

50:23

guy on Earth, like your father was that guy.

50:25

Man, it's interesting guy without trying

50:28

were just heah yeah in facts

50:31

shooh. You know, it's been all my life. That's

50:35

why it'sn't about the burden. I didn't

50:38

mean it in a battle. I'm just saying it's it's a big

50:40

thing.

50:41

No, but no, like what what Bro's

50:43

saying in regards to like how many. I mean,

50:46

you know it is it's like now, like

50:48

you know, I did this yesterday, not like that,

50:50

but it was another bop thing yesterday.

50:52

And then when I was born, it was a Bop team.

50:54

You know what I mean. It's always been a Bop tam.

50:57

It's like all your whole life, so you know

50:59

what I mean, because especially all the money is yeah,

51:02

you know what I mean. Then as when being

51:04

that he left earth when we were nine years old

51:07

myself someone brothers, Wow,

51:10

yeah, nine years old.

51:13

He was thirty Yeah I said.

51:14

I was ten.

51:15

I was nine yet thirty six, wow, yeah,

51:18

nineteen eighty one, I'm born in seventy

51:20

two. So yeah, but when he

51:22

left earth when we were nine years old, we

51:25

had to learn from other

51:27

people too, you know, and learn

51:30

from his friends some of his things in Blasi

51:32

Blasi. So it became like, I

51:35

think that we love to talk about also

51:37

because it's a remembrance and

51:39

so we like to tell the stories about our dad too

51:42

because not yeah, we love it. So it's like

51:44

I can't even calculate it because it's like a fun

51:47

thing, you know, like, yeah, man, Maama,

51:49

you know something about her dad, you know, so if

51:51

you know something, tell me what you know what?

51:53

Tell me? We're intrigued like that.

51:55

Yeah, because he's truly,

52:00

truly was a prophet.

52:01

He truly was like of

52:03

this hearth, but not

52:05

of this earth.

52:06

Like but you see, go back to the christ

52:09

consciousness thing again, where you know,

52:11

like we say, like, you know, it's the same thing

52:13

you say, Yeah, we're fleshical people, but

52:15

we have a higher consciousness where we try to

52:17

seek a higher way of life, and

52:20

that way of life is coming out of this whole

52:22

ether system, you know. So

52:25

our father was able to tap that and

52:27

unbeknownst to us, not knowing

52:29

the meditation that he's dealing with

52:32

and the vibration of these links we don't know,

52:34

you know. So you

52:36

know, the man they believe in greater existence,

52:40

you know, believe that we all can

52:42

unite, you know, truly, like that's

52:44

like a truth, that's like a real

52:47

it's a real thing.

52:48

You know.

52:48

It's not like, oh, man, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, man,

52:50

it can happen, you know, So

52:53

you truly believe that and live that.

52:55

And he was just.

52:55

Connected to the source, and that's

52:57

the same thing as we as human beings. Our

53:00

goal is try to find the source and connect

53:02

to it, you know. So we just and

53:04

then that's how we get his majesty again because

53:07

we as his children, I say, wait

53:09

a minute, we

53:12

got to find a root of that.

53:14

And the root is Rastafar, right, so

53:16

you know, so it's like.

53:18

A channeling and how because

53:21

this great man is like you just talk about,

53:23

yes, as Christ and the great

53:25

humans that just walk this earth,

53:28

it's like we channel that, We

53:31

channel that energy. And then

53:33

because we know it's real because our

53:35

father, we see tap into that even

53:38

just by how we walk. And that's the

53:40

scent just like growing up and it's

53:42

the scent of him. You know, like you

53:44

know, a certain way and what he's connected to

53:47

in just the way and what he is, you know, in

53:50

regards to like growing

53:52

up living next to the priests from

53:54

the Inthuopian Orthodox Church because His Majesty

53:56

sent them to Jamaica and they

53:59

lived in the same yard that my father lived

54:01

in. My father gave him residency, you know,

54:03

so he took care of the church, you know.

54:05

So it really it was a man

54:08

like that connected the father

54:11

said, and the Holy One, you know, is

54:13

that really mine that desire that you

54:15

know? So yeah, so

54:18

like you say, you know, it's really talk, but

54:21

you know, I want to sound like you

54:23

know, trum my son, I believe the same thing

54:25

you're saying. Bro, it's

54:28

real, trust me. I remember I capp

54:30

into that truth just like that. Yeah,

54:33

because I remember having a conversation with Pun's son,

54:35

right.

54:37

And we're shooting the terminology videos,

54:40

Terminology record me Pun's

54:42

son, and term is on, and I remember

54:44

me talking to pun Son and

54:47

me talking to him if

54:50

he was his father's friend, and me not realizing

54:52

that this is Pun's son, and pun

54:54

didn't really get to spend a lot

54:57

of time what a sure.

55:00

I remember me immediately saying. I was talking

55:02

and I was just like, holy shit, because

55:04

I'm talking to this shit about his father

55:06

and I'm like, hey, me and him do this, and I'm

55:09

looking at him like holy shit. He doesn't really know,

55:12

so you know what I mean, Like, is

55:15

that something that you ever went through?

55:19

Hmm?

55:21

So as

55:24

a young boy at nine

55:26

years old in Jamaica, right, it's like you're fifteen

55:28

and a man eighty, you

55:31

know what I'm saying it, So we

55:34

have spot memory like the

55:36

times that we have with our father was you know, the times

55:39

you know, and then you know and then

55:41

it's like he lost some time. Actually, because

55:44

even recently I had a dream of my dad recently

55:46

and I don't really dream him that much vision

55:48

him in my dream, you know. I think

55:50

it's one of the first times I think, I'm

55:52

not even sure, maybe two times in my.

55:54

Life because you know how it is.

55:57

It's not easy, you know, so we

56:00

live it and meet within us, so you're like seeing

56:02

yourself all the time. But like you say, it's

56:05

it's really it's like

56:07

just a way of life, man, and really trying to make

56:11

sense of it, you know what

56:14

I mean, Because it's magic, Yeah,

56:17

it's real magic. And to see it and being

56:20

being around it, like wow, all

56:22

right, because the mind is like an excellent

56:24

type of being. You know, it's my father type of person

56:27

that you walk in this room and you just jump over the table.

56:30

Oh wow, like

56:32

you drive like a superhero.

56:35

So we see him like that.

56:36

So when when the friends tell you the stories,

56:39

he's like, he's the type of person like he

56:41

walk in he walk in the house and you see

56:43

you and the next minute you bring

56:45

the boxing gloves.

56:46

You know, wow, like circlub.

56:50

So that's yeah.

56:51

So yeah, it's like I ever

56:53

ever present. So we hear the

56:55

stories.

56:57

Because you know, as

57:00

as sons, you look up to your

57:02

father and you want to emulate your father. So

57:04

he tried to find all the little things about

57:07

him and learn as much as you can

57:10

and then you know, try to extend that because

57:13

at the end of the day, I'm fifty two

57:15

years old this year. My father passed you when I'm thirty

57:18

six, But I still see him as like WHOA, what

57:20

a big man? And when

57:23

you please my little brother today, you know, but

57:25

I still look at him like wow, you

57:27

know I still see him. Wow you think

57:30

that is I think I see him still as

57:32

that little nine year old. I think I

57:34

don't know because I still when I look when

57:36

I see a picture of my own my father,

57:39

I don't.

57:39

I mean, obviously I.

57:43

We live in the present, right of course, so

57:46

we will we you know, in your

57:48

own mind, you kind of talk to yourself for

57:50

how you would perceive a life with daddy

57:53

today.

57:54

You know.

57:54

But when I do see him, I don't see like

57:57

I couldn't, like, I just see

57:59

him as he's in these

58:01

all the same pictures, you know.

58:02

What I mean. I don't vision him the other way?

58:04

You know what I mean, because I heard jay

58:07

Z say that his kids didn't think he

58:09

was cool. Right, you

58:12

couldn't have never had that problem. You always had

58:14

the new was the coolest person on

58:16

the player.

58:19

Let let remember I'm young, so.

58:27

It's like a lion, and I seem

58:29

like a because he's the type of person when they talk

58:31

to you cry like I'm the type of person.

58:33

My day is over there. I'm over there, you know.

58:36

So you.

58:41

It's like, I don't know, I see

58:43

him like a superhero bigger than life,

58:45

like yeah, I when I'm seeing him, the

58:49

scent of him, like you can't even he's the type

58:51

of man like I remember one day he's

58:54

in the studio session and I'm

58:56

there late at the hopeful because i'm you know, I'm

58:58

supposed to be home, but I end up staying over here.

59:00

I'm late, and he's like, what are

59:02

you doing here?

59:04

I'm sitting here, dad, you know here.

59:07

So it's about I don't know, maybe one o'clock or

59:09

probably earlier, like twelve o'clock or something.

59:12

So I go into the studio and you know, the

59:14

studio of the glass here, and he's on the

59:16

board up there.

59:17

But you can't.

59:18

You can't fall asleep. You can't

59:21

fall asleep in the studio. You

59:23

can't.

59:25

That's my room too. You mean I

59:27

got that from I know, I

59:29

was great.

59:31

You can't like

59:34

on some weak stuff like you can't

59:36

be there like bobbing and ship.

59:39

That's so fucking flaw Holy

59:41

shit, send.

59:42

Me as a little boy. Now I'm sitting the tire

59:44

and so

59:48

I'm trying to kind of hide, but he see

59:50

me through the glass. It

59:52

says, hey, boy, go upstairs.

59:56

So I go upstairs now, and I'm laying in my dad's

59:58

bed because you know it's just his he got his

1:00:01

bed is in the office, his studio,

1:00:04

pressing plan.

1:00:04

Everything is right there, you know, his whole

1:00:07

system.

1:00:07

So I'm sleeping, you know, my

1:00:10

father probably come upstairs like five

1:00:12

thirty am.

1:00:14

Hey boy, get up to wash

1:00:17

your feet. That's

1:00:29

yeah.

1:00:30

So you see him like like when

1:00:32

you it's like, oh no, you

1:00:36

know what I mean, it's like, yeah, man, you

1:00:38

know, you seem like it's whatever

1:00:41

you're gonna do is like magic. And the stories

1:00:43

you hear about him, it's like the you know, you

1:00:45

do magical things. My uncle will

1:00:47

tell you here in Miami because I'm in nineteen

1:00:50

seventy six. It's when my family move here

1:00:52

in Miami. But my dad had

1:00:54

a renegade, a jeep. My

1:00:56

uncle will tell you. You know, sometime he drives the cheap

1:00:58

and he come into the yard. She is like

1:01:00

on one wheel. The way he fucking

1:01:02

turned that he's

1:01:05

He's like, you can't believe the things. You

1:01:07

can't leave the things that they tell you. Man, the

1:01:09

stories, it's like it's crazy,

1:01:12

like a real superhero. So

1:01:15

we see our father as a superhero, like

1:01:17

and we tried to you is a superhero. Yeah, So

1:01:19

we're like that's the way, like the

1:01:22

smell, that's the way he smelled. You know,

1:01:24

things he eats. How he You know, you don't want

1:01:26

to when you're young, you don't want none.

1:01:28

That ship.

1:01:31

Be ruit Irish Moss.

1:01:33

You know a lot of I tell food. Notice

1:01:36

we we dumpling. Well,

1:01:39

he was super disciplined in that way.

1:01:41

Yeah, man, But.

1:01:42

Sometime you know he's he'll

1:01:44

take you to Kentucky Chicken winter

1:01:59

time Sundays.

1:02:03

I'm gonna change it up a little bit. Once made

1:02:06

the mistake right me personally, a

1:02:08

bike riding with a famous

1:02:11

NFL football player named

1:02:14

Warren sat Now,

1:02:16

we'll go on these bike rides with Warren stack two

1:02:20

three times a week. I realized

1:02:22

he was crazy. I didn't realize how crazy

1:02:25

he was. One

1:02:28

day he goes, fuck these bitch ass

1:02:31

wires. We take it, Norrie, Let's

1:02:33

go to the South Beach. I don't take him serious,

1:02:36

but I'm like, okay, cool. We

1:02:40

go into Sunny House. I realized,

1:02:42

Oh, he's really going to South beat. I

1:02:44

can't bitch out or

1:02:47

you cross the bridge. Oh he's

1:02:50

a maniac.

1:02:52

By the way, Warren Savage my friend,

1:02:54

so I can say this. He has never left

1:02:57

the game. He's still on the

1:02:59

field. He was blocking for me.

1:03:01

Oh, I'm

1:03:04

feeling like I got a fucking football. You're

1:03:08

running back. He's

1:03:10

coping in front of the trucks.

1:03:11

I sweter, go, swearter, I'm

1:03:14

not as you read. An

1:03:16

Amazon truck pulled up on the side of us,

1:03:19

and he went like this. He

1:03:23

hit the Amazon truck. This ship shaped.

1:03:27

The two Amazon drivers come out,

1:03:30

They're like yo, and then they see this water on Saturday.

1:03:32

Fuck that.

1:03:35

They turned the funking around. I'm looking.

1:03:39

Warren is the man in the

1:03:41

streets. I'm on the bike. I'm

1:03:43

out of my league here.

1:03:44

Man.

1:03:45

I do not belong here, but

1:03:48

I can't turn back.

1:03:49

Now.

1:03:50

Different kind of bike ride, and I.

1:03:51

Don't got no charge you because it's an electric bike

1:03:53

and the electric is not working. I got no

1:03:56

electric bike. Yeah, snow

1:03:59

listen, and just we're gonna do nine

1:04:01

hundred miles. The electric don't count.

1:04:04

So we're going. We're going, and

1:04:07

he's like, hey, let's stop

1:04:09

for a pier.

1:04:10

What a beer?

1:04:13

I like this bike ride. We

1:04:18

wind up in your house. She

1:04:21

look, we want to live in your house.

1:04:23

I walked in his credit.

1:04:25

I don't understand. I didn't. I didn't remember

1:04:28

that y'all went to school together. I didn't remember

1:04:30

y'all my.

1:04:30

Best friend I remember that, so

1:04:33

I'm like, you am.

1:04:34

But by the way, if you didn't lived it,

1:04:36

I would have died.

1:04:38

It was out of everything.

1:04:40

Like this guy's a Hall of Famer. Yeah,

1:04:42

he's working out.

1:04:47

To go through traffic and it's not my ship.

1:04:49

I'm trying to just waiting over your head, trying

1:04:52

to fucking go fucking after the

1:04:55

Super Bowl, trying

1:04:57

to.

1:04:59

Bike man somewhere.

1:05:00

He's training for my head

1:05:02

with him. So he's like, yo, let's

1:05:04

go sweating. He's like, let's

1:05:07

go to I'm like, I'm

1:05:10

trying to find your number to

1:05:13

be like you just finally.

1:05:14

Excuse supposed to stay.

1:05:18

You'll thank you. I kid, you not warm. You

1:05:21

listen, if you're not ready to work out with a Hall

1:05:23

of Famer, I want

1:05:25

to get you incredible. Don't do it.

1:05:28

He's incredible because he's not gonna let you stop.

1:05:30

He's incredible.

1:05:31

That we went to your house. From your

1:05:33

house, we drank beers. I was like, I

1:05:35

was like, yoh, yeah, my battery was about to die.

1:05:38

I was using any excuse I call

1:05:40

my wife like like, I was like,

1:05:42

come and get me. You're

1:05:45

kid pro It was

1:05:47

not funny. I was

1:05:50

like, I say he was abusing man. I

1:05:53

was like, why.

1:05:56

I come?

1:05:57

I come? The next I was, I came,

1:05:59

like like why the electric

1:06:05

left the Then

1:06:07

first off, we went to Prome one twelve drank

1:06:11

and we went impact and I was like, I'm not

1:06:13

really big like this.

1:06:14

When you drink more prime.

1:06:17

I couldn't say no, do you understand? It's

1:06:19

like I just like exercise. I

1:06:21

felt like he was going to be like, shut the fuck okay.

1:06:26

I was like, yes, I

1:06:30

was out of war is a crazy

1:06:32

one. I seen him last night. Oh

1:06:34

my god, yeah you know, I

1:06:36

promise you.

1:06:37

Warren Sapp is probably one of the smartest human

1:06:40

meat that I have ever met in my life. This

1:06:42

guy is so intelligent, like bio

1:06:45

biologically, geographically,

1:06:48

philosophically.

1:06:50

No one was football like this guy.

1:06:52

No one.

1:06:53

He taught me about like American politics,

1:06:55

like he taught me American history. He

1:06:57

taught me so much about American culture and

1:07:00

here in America like when.

1:07:02

You first moved all the time, like

1:07:05

all the time, Like his history

1:07:08

is play football, yeah, but his his

1:07:10

knowledge, man is this man.

1:07:12

Teaches me so much about American

1:07:15

history. Like just like he's so

1:07:17

intelligent. Bro, it's well read well.

1:07:20

Like this guy. You you can't

1:07:22

increase this. You can't. I'm in college.

1:07:25

I want we were roommates.

1:07:27

Walked in the door, I walked into well,

1:07:30

we didn't have a dot and apartment.

1:07:32

It's you, am, but it's on campus.

1:07:34

That's right. Apartments from Miami

1:07:36

Ship real chilling, score

1:07:38

gables.

1:07:40

It's good.

1:07:41

Pole in here.

1:07:42

Something I don't know in my mind. The

1:07:48

seven ninth Street we went.

1:07:51

Let me say this anyway.

1:07:56

I walk in the dorm, I mean the

1:07:59

apartment I open and Sap is

1:08:01

there watching Jeopardy. I'm

1:08:03

like, you watch this ship. This

1:08:06

motherfucker's answering all the question. I'm like, how

1:08:08

do you know that ship?

1:08:10

Intelligent motherfucker part of my friends,

1:08:12

but super intelligent and as

1:08:14

well as a dominant like athlete.

1:08:17

This man.

1:08:18

You won't find him just sitting around. He's

1:08:20

fishing all the time, riding the bicycle, diving.

1:08:24

It's crazy, by the way, he's diving,

1:08:27

grabbing the fish under water, the

1:08:29

fish with the fucking thing. You know

1:08:32

what I'm talking about. He's

1:08:37

down there and

1:08:40

keep with you, quit,

1:08:44

quit and quit, want.

1:08:47

No more.

1:08:49

Right now? Big up to him too.

1:08:51

He does. He's not working with coach

1:08:53

on sand Let

1:08:58

me tell you something let me tell you something. If

1:09:00

you never rode in a bike lane and

1:09:03

he was slow in the bike lane, or you walked in the

1:09:05

bike lane, Warren Sap is

1:09:07

he come up on you like this, cout the fuck out

1:09:10

the bike like, yo, let me tell

1:09:12

you something. The whole ballwalk moves

1:09:14

out his way. It's like they got a time

1:09:17

that he knows. They know he come through.

1:09:20

You know the bike lan. You know you

1:09:22

know why he knows the law.

1:09:24

You know he's actually correct. If

1:09:26

you're going to wait, he'll yell at you like you're

1:09:28

going the wrong way.

1:09:30

He's like one of them type of guys where he's

1:09:32

like strictly law of biting,

1:09:34

Like he's proper, Like you

1:09:36

can't be walking in the bike

1:09:39

lan.

1:09:40

You know you got the right to be. You

1:09:43

see the sign.

1:09:44

But the first time I met him,

1:09:48

we was at a restaurant and he had a sign I swear

1:09:50

to guard in front of him that said.

1:09:52

Don't feed the animals. I

1:09:55

don't know what that ship meant.

1:09:56

When I stayed clear away from that ship, I was like, hey,

1:09:58

how you doing, Borro Sap.

1:09:59

I was like, I was scared to death. He's

1:10:02

a good guy. He's a good guy.

1:10:04

But he's he's really like always

1:10:06

himself proper, you know, but he's

1:10:08

always but you know what growing

1:10:11

up like how we grew up and thing and

1:10:14

all the things that people took advantage of, you

1:10:16

know, some of his situations, he

1:10:18

became very defensive of his circle and

1:10:20

who he lets into his space, because you

1:10:23

know, when when you're just living your life and

1:10:25

you end up in a situation.

1:10:26

What I mean, I mean, I thought we were just hanging out.

1:10:28

How come it led to that?

1:10:30

Right?

1:10:31

And then so them things them turned them guys

1:10:33

into more like like especially

1:10:36

so big too, like he don't like,

1:10:38

you know, he don't.

1:10:38

Know who's who anymore knows.

1:10:40

A Miami guy. He's a Miami

1:10:43

gud. Like everything about Warren is

1:10:45

Miami cut him. He bleeds

1:10:47

green.

1:10:48

Well, we do believe I am also orange

1:10:51

and gray yourself, I

1:10:55

also please orange and green. So

1:10:58

be careful because he played for of Riders right,

1:11:01

not in the CFL, in the c played

1:11:04

in Miami. Not football, not not

1:11:06

not football.

1:11:09

Let me tell you about my limitated times I played.

1:11:12

Okay, so I played here at

1:11:14

the high school, promic Senior high

1:11:16

school.

1:11:18

Big up to, big

1:11:21

up to, big up to.

1:11:23

Okay, okay

1:11:26

one our district district chimps. I was a linebacker.

1:11:29

I got a full scholarship at the University of Miami.

1:11:32

Wow. I

1:11:36

was red shirted my my.

1:11:38

Next year as a fifth fleeting tackle on the team.

1:11:40

I played the outside linebacker fifty

1:11:43

tackling team my sophomore year.

1:11:46

Since the call

1:11:49

right now, the fantasy what is it but

1:11:51

under that underdog fantasy fantasy.

1:12:00

So yeah, I led the team in tackles as a defensive

1:12:03

player linebacker and then

1:12:05

the rough Riders you're talking about. I went to the

1:12:07

CFL because I was kind of ineligible

1:12:10

to go to the NFL just because of.

1:12:11

My rude ways. So I got it.

1:12:13

I became ineligible. I was like a little I wasn't

1:12:16

particularly like just

1:12:19

do what you tell me type of guy I

1:12:21

got in trouble. Wasn't na Ganja, never

1:12:24

that. It was more like, why

1:12:27

you talk to me?

1:12:29

You see? You know what I mean?

1:12:30

So then a fire, you know, I mean, you can't talk

1:12:32

to me certain ways.

1:12:33

So it's kind of like, oh, he's uncoachable.

1:12:35

Not uncoachable, you just can't talk to me like

1:12:37

that. I'm growing, you know, I mean, I just that's

1:12:40

landing. So it did it did affect

1:12:42

my ways. But my son Nico, he

1:12:45

got a full ride to Tulane. He actually

1:12:47

he actually played the whole

1:12:50

preseasons for the Redskins. So

1:12:53

at Tulane he's like the top leading

1:12:56

tackler, top twenty in their history, number

1:12:59

one and then tagus for loss. He became a great linebacker,

1:13:02

so he superseded what I wanted

1:13:04

to do.

1:13:04

It.

1:13:04

So my children are better than me, obviously, all

1:13:07

of them, So I love that. But

1:13:09

yes, I was a linebacker and ray Lewis was

1:13:11

my middle linebacker. Warn't Stop was my d

1:13:13

line So I played them here. So

1:13:17

I taught ray Lewis what a team.

1:13:20

I can say that and

1:13:24

he would lock it up.

1:13:27

But obviously, absolutely

1:13:31

that's how it works.

1:13:32

If you, if you, if if

1:13:34

if if if I walk

1:13:36

in before you and you

1:13:38

walk in and see me sitting there, who are

1:13:40

you learning from? But

1:13:43

that's just how it is, because I'm

1:13:45

the man when we walked up in that school, I'm

1:13:47

the man, and I'm the best linebacker I ever

1:13:50

played at University of Miami.

1:13:52

Sir Ray, It's

1:13:57

the thing we have.

1:13:59

But obviously Leary Lewis is the greatest

1:14:01

linebacker ever played the game. But

1:14:04

but in college, in college, we're

1:14:06

talking about college. We're not talking about the world.

1:14:08

Were just talking about you. So

1:14:11

we're gonna put that up. We're gonna put that up.

1:14:13

Man in mano.

1:14:15

Okay, do

1:14:17

you what do you call soccer?

1:14:19

I still call it soccer.

1:14:21

You know, it depends who I am and depends

1:14:23

on my moons. I still call it

1:14:25

soccer, like it depends on to.

1:14:28

Stay in the hotel in Italy and

1:14:31

you said it was like what fucking

1:14:33

American?

1:14:34

I was like Jesus, like, they took

1:14:36

it by the way to the hotel.

1:14:38

I don't know if anybody could google this and send

1:14:40

me the link. It was a soccer

1:14:43

hotel. Yeah, so everywhere

1:14:45

you went it was TVs. Playing soccer. I was

1:14:47

freaked the funk out.

1:14:48

That's your later on I'm

1:14:50

talking about in the elevators. It's like

1:14:53

everyone a TV big game, big probably

1:14:55

a big game, but that I grew up playing that.

1:14:57

That's my sport. But you know what what

1:14:59

you better at soccer or football?

1:15:01

American? Well?

1:15:05

You see for me, you

1:15:08

know, I never became what I

1:15:10

wanted to become. As an athlete, I'm

1:15:12

a failure and as a I want

1:15:14

to be a pro. I really want to be a pro one

1:15:16

of these things.

1:15:17

I tried sports either.

1:15:19

I tried American football, but I wasn't disciplined

1:15:21

enough. Then no track and fail.

1:15:24

You know what when I you won't believe

1:15:26

this. I actually in my high school, I

1:15:28

have the record for the four by

1:15:30

one hundred relay.

1:15:32

I'm a part of that team. So I had some speed.

1:15:34

I did the high jump. Yeah,

1:15:36

I did the high jump.

1:15:37

That was my thing. So that's kind of my thing. So I

1:15:40

played that.

1:15:40

I did basketball.

1:15:42

I played that.

1:15:45

We don't believe you in a basketball tip at all. We

1:15:49

don't believe that.

1:16:11

Football.

1:16:15

Well, I wanted to be an athlete.

1:16:16

You know if I failed at being an athlete, I

1:16:19

really did. And I remember the day when I realized

1:16:21

that I couldn't be an athlete anymore. It wasn't

1:16:23

I had to give up on my dream. Because

1:16:26

after college, I went to be a roadie

1:16:28

with my brothers because I wanted to be amongst my brothers.

1:16:30

So I was a roadie, you know, I was like, you

1:16:33

know then I was trying to learn to be that. Then things

1:16:35

happened and some other things in life took

1:16:37

place. Then I went to Jamaica,

1:16:39

and I tried out for the Jamaica national team. I want

1:16:42

to be a soccer player, so I was working

1:16:44

my way up to like the club I made the Premier

1:16:46

League. One of the teams.

1:16:48

Let you go through, because you know, they don't do that.

1:16:50

They don't do that, they don't a bit hard

1:16:53

all they even know who I am. You

1:16:55

probably wanted it that way, but yeah, and

1:16:57

then again they look at me like, oh, oh,

1:17:01

you play American football. You don't know nothing about

1:17:03

this. So obviously I

1:17:05

got to prove a double prove. And then again I

1:17:07

am Bob's son. Then again, I'm a little older

1:17:09

than everyone else. Not everyone,

1:17:12

but I'm a little older because I went to college.

1:17:14

And so I'm like writing like that prime

1:17:16

age, you know, and it's a young youth thing.

1:17:19

So I was trying.

1:17:20

My dream was to play for Jamaica. I

1:17:23

didn't make it to play for Jamaica. Tore

1:17:25

my hamstring. Then I

1:17:27

moved to Miami. Then

1:17:29

I moved to Los Angeles and that's

1:17:31

when I got into business. And my brother, this is when

1:17:34

I got into business. My brother, Ziggy,

1:17:37

he asked me a question one day. He says, you know, let me

1:17:39

ask you something. What

1:17:42

do you want to do, you know, business or football?

1:17:44

Because I thought that after I rehabilitated

1:17:47

myself, I was going to move to LA and

1:17:50

try out for LA Galaxy.

1:17:51

That's what that's going to find.

1:17:54

The way I met one

1:17:56

of the guys, that's how I do things. I meet a

1:17:59

guy in the coffee shop. Hey man you oh yeah,

1:18:01

man, Hey, how I get a tryout?

1:18:02

Can you? That's how I do it.

1:18:03

It's not like some Marley thing. I gotta

1:18:06

go. That's how I That's how it works as

1:18:08

an athlete. It's not singing, you know what I mean.

1:18:11

He's singing.

1:18:12

So but my brother asked me a question and

1:18:14

says, listen, man, I see something. It's

1:18:16

gonna cost you eight thousand dollars to do

1:18:19

this collection you want. I

1:18:21

was designing tough gun clothing at the time,

1:18:25

so he said, business or

1:18:27

football. I gotta

1:18:29

make a choice. So in my mind, I

1:18:31

think I'm gonna like thirty one years old. So

1:18:33

I started to think about, like right then

1:18:35

not to make a decision. But what made me think even

1:18:38

faster was like, listen, I'm fucking

1:18:40

too old. These motherfuckers they're

1:18:43

gonna bench me. I'm gonna be frustrated.

1:18:45

They're gonna be some young motherfucker there. So

1:18:47

I'm gonna go through this frustration again right

1:18:50

thinking I'm better than the guy playing, and I'm gonna

1:18:52

go through that all over again as I can't.

1:18:55

As I can't go through it again, I'm like, I

1:18:57

did that, you know, I did? You know

1:18:59

that sports is like

1:19:01

that, man, So I had to choose business.

1:19:04

And that's when I became an entrepreneur. With that

1:19:06

ultimatum right there from my brother Ziggy, and

1:19:09

that's from like Tough On Clothing

1:19:11

starring Marley Coffee, Romary

1:19:13

Beach House. I got my own cannabis company out

1:19:15

line order that you know. It's

1:19:18

out of Michigan, Detroit there, So I'm

1:19:20

doing that. So I'm doing a lot of things.

1:19:22

And then for my family, I'm kind

1:19:24

of like the brand ambassador kind of business

1:19:27

development for the family. We

1:19:29

have House of Marley where we have the headphones

1:19:31

and everything Marley Family. I'm kind

1:19:33

of like one of the guys in

1:19:36

regards to the business side, so not

1:19:38

so much music, but all

1:19:40

of the like extended products

1:19:42

like these art goods or whatever we have here, some

1:19:45

of these things, but these things are lying order. What you

1:19:47

see me like to show off lie in order.

1:19:49

That's that's my thing, lieing order. Okay,

1:19:52

that's the brand.

1:19:53

We see the ring.

1:19:55

Yeah, this is just a black lion. The black client

1:19:57

is a king's right, So just we're the

1:19:59

black client.

1:20:00

You know.

1:20:00

We also see that automar perpetual too. We

1:20:02

also see that too, sir. Yes,

1:20:07

that's nice.

1:20:08

Let we talk about Root's luxury, like

1:20:12

like the time, and we like to tell a good time.

1:20:15

I'm taking that your

1:20:20

publisher, I get your publisher, you get, all

1:20:22

right? All right, okay, so you want

1:20:24

to introduce yes, yeah,

1:20:26

all right, We're gonna give you two choices. We're

1:20:29

gonna run down the list. You pick

1:20:31

one, we don't drink. This

1:20:33

is a drinking game, all right, but

1:20:36

if you say both. If

1:20:38

you don't pick one, basically we're drinking if.

1:20:41

If I don't get one, so I gotta

1:20:43

be truthful, right yeah, if you say one, then nobody

1:20:45

drinking. And then you know we want to tell story, all

1:20:47

right, you can tell anything.

1:20:49

Yeah, the choice. So this is what kind of game is.

1:20:51

It's called quick time. It's lone, but it's never quit. I gotta

1:20:53

be fast. No no, no, no, it's just fast.

1:20:58

Okay.

1:20:58

So we're going to start the first Oneac or d

1:21:00

M X.

1:21:04

Tupac just because of you know, you

1:21:06

know what, it's not fair to ask

1:21:09

some of these questions to me because I'm

1:21:12

always I'm

1:21:14

always about that, Like the older person is

1:21:16

gonna get the upper hand, right, So

1:21:19

I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Tupac for age

1:21:21

preference not necessarily competitive

1:21:23

in regards to it, the.

1:21:25

Better lyrics better whatever,

1:21:28

nothing to do with that strictly

1:21:31

on age.

1:21:31

So Tupac, okay, rings

1:21:34

or bony again,

1:21:40

it just.

1:21:41

Jumps out of me.

1:21:42

What elder statesman and that these

1:21:45

are truth? But in what capacity?

1:21:47

Like it's whatever, it's for you, whatever

1:21:50

it is. They could be a personal connection, could be the

1:21:52

music, It could be anything.

1:21:54

Wow are you can say? You can say both? And we got.

1:21:59

The shot

1:22:02

ye shots

1:22:07

drink chips Okay,

1:22:10

okay, I.

1:22:10

Like this one. Naves Naves

1:22:13

or jay Z your

1:22:17

brother got the album with nas. Let's not forget no,

1:22:20

Dad, I just waited you

1:22:22

you you getting sucked up.

1:22:24

I'm drunk there we drinks jumps

1:22:26

some drunk. I can't think

1:22:28

straight. I can't

1:22:30

think z.

1:22:40

You know, in

1:22:42

life you have relationships. Yeah, that's

1:22:45

why.

1:22:45

People say sounds

1:22:47

like we're taking another shot.

1:22:50

This is this is not right. Whoa

1:23:01

that ship?

1:23:02

That ship?

1:23:02

They will frighten you that fucking

1:23:05

the horn. It's like taking

1:23:07

mushrooms. It's

1:23:11

just like mushrooms.

1:23:14

This is my drink.

1:23:15

Chams are drunk chat. So

1:23:20

you know we're gonna go with.

1:23:22

Jay Z.

1:23:25

Let me go board just for cheer.

1:23:30

This one is a good one. Oh yeah, this is

1:23:33

by the way, I just wanted to let you know, we

1:23:36

don't do it. Don't

1:23:38

make it. It's the Colorbia and Dominicans

1:23:40

right over there. You know they make up these questions.

1:23:42

The Columbia right there and the Dominican

1:23:44

right there. What they do is they study you.

1:23:47

Let me let me make something clear here, okay, because

1:23:50

I'm because I'm an, I just want to

1:23:52

make.

1:23:52

This truly clear. Very let's

1:23:55

be clear. You see

1:23:57

me with my locks and.

1:23:58

Everything on, so you know me, I'm

1:24:00

a RASTAFARII but be clear on

1:24:02

this. I'm an entrepreneur, that's right.

1:24:05

So I do a lot of taste testing. See

1:24:09

where you go, uh,

1:24:11

spend some time in Jamaica

1:24:14

and the knefield. You

1:24:16

know, they they had a rum.

1:24:19

So I did a taste test. So

1:24:22

I'm gonna call this a taste testing exactly

1:24:24

what it is. Don't don't, don't think there's

1:24:26

something regular. This is a taste testing. Taste

1:24:28

test? What do we taste testing here?

1:24:30

What is this? This is got

1:24:32

some right?

1:24:33

That's okay?

1:24:34

All right, well, I hope I'm gonna answer all these other questions.

1:24:36

Because we're not on It's not for

1:24:39

my health. I'm

1:24:41

gonna start picking answers here. Ready,

1:24:45

Yes, you got a super cat or Sean

1:24:47

Paul Battle?

1:24:49

All right, super Cat? Right now, I'm going

1:24:51

like age. I'm not going

1:24:53

age first, so remember

1:24:56

that you got it, I got it.

1:24:58

Let me take this one because I got a record.

1:24:59

I love the guys the

1:25:02

way if I drink, if I say one, no

1:25:04

one drinks. No one drinks.

1:25:06

Wait so wait, well y'all, wait, this is not fair.

1:25:09

You're too small.

1:25:10

But if

1:25:12

you say both and neither, we drink. Drink No,

1:25:15

there has to be a time. Okay, we drink

1:25:19

like drinking like that has

1:25:21

to be there has to be some scenario. Yes,

1:25:24

were you fellas man?

1:25:27

Okay, don't drink me.

1:25:29

Okay, we're going figure this out, but let's

1:25:31

just move on from now.

1:25:32

Bounty Killer O Beadie Man you

1:25:36

guys watch versus Yeah, who

1:25:38

did y'all choose?

1:25:39

And we chose we chose to. I mean,

1:25:41

you get the police out of there when the police showed up,

1:25:44

said police, fin get out of the yard.

1:25:46

I think bounty.

1:25:48

I'm gonna go both.

1:25:49

Go they both.

1:25:52

I can't remember Jamaica run. I don't

1:25:55

know.

1:25:56

He said both.

1:25:57

He said both. Wait, wait, he

1:25:59

said, twisting me up.

1:26:04

Out.

1:26:05

Hey man, you can drink some roots

1:26:07

right here. This is what I'm drinking. This

1:26:12

is all right, fine, let me let me do

1:26:14

this. I'm gonna win.

1:26:19

I'm gonna win for real, all

1:26:24

right. Next one is yeah,

1:26:27

shot us of belly you.

1:26:30

I know what. That's easy. I'm gonna

1:26:32

shot this. Yeah, you're

1:26:36

gone too far. Now,

1:26:41

you're gone gone. Next

1:26:44

one should be easy loved in in Miami, Miami.

1:26:49

Yeah, that should have been easy.

1:26:51

Have been easier.

1:26:52

Come on, what do you mean just just

1:26:54

came from now then I'm here in Miami now.

1:26:56

Yeah, big up?

1:26:57

What else?

1:26:57

What I say?

1:26:59

Yes? And the police still don't

1:27:01

got London?

1:27:03

In London they got guns now they

1:27:05

do upgraded. I think they got guns now,

1:27:07

bro ship, I didn't

1:27:09

see any police.

1:27:10

Because they got drill rap. They

1:27:12

got drill rap rap

1:27:16

over here too, Yeah, police got

1:27:18

guns all right? The

1:27:20

next one, I can't see you. Ok,

1:27:24

this is me, but I think I think

1:27:26

he might be. Let's figure it out. Jerk

1:27:30

chicken or carry chicken, he

1:27:33

jerry, he said, they went to let

1:27:38

me see how I get y'all to drink. Now, let me I'm

1:27:40

gonna drink. This one answers, I'm

1:27:43

gonna I got you. He's

1:27:45

like, I'm gonna get you. But

1:27:50

this this is a very chicken jerk chicken

1:27:52

or yeah, all right?

1:27:53

When I was young, because.

1:27:56

You don't have a jerk pan at your house, right,

1:28:00

you don't have a jerk pan, So it's

1:28:02

like it's a.

1:28:03

Pan that's just what you just stays this just

1:28:05

to make the jerk. It's tough.

1:28:07

This is a you know what if you don't find the right

1:28:10

guy when this is when I'm young, because

1:28:12

if you don't jerk the chicken certain way, it hurts your belly.

1:28:14

And we know what happen when you hurt your belly. But

1:28:17

because curry chicken, no, it's

1:28:20

so many yet, like for dinner at your

1:28:22

house, so we're not for goo with curry

1:28:24

chicken. I didn't even though I don't

1:28:26

eat chicken.

1:28:28

That's right.

1:28:30

That's because as a youth. I'm not talking

1:28:32

now. I'm not saying when I was young how

1:28:35

to eat curt because that's why I ate more. I hate a lot of

1:28:37

curry chicken. Man, that's what cook for dinner.

1:28:39

You know. I just got to ask you this, if you ever

1:28:42

ate the coconuts out here in

1:28:44

Hollandale, what was it? Mayor Mark?

1:28:47

They got? They got vegan. I

1:28:50

thought you meant the fruit. No, no, no, no coconuts.

1:28:53

I want to find out. It's my spot. I

1:28:55

want to find out is it really into the yard? Mancos

1:28:58

on it?

1:28:58

And then I sell something, y'all ink and water? Are

1:29:00

you taking shots? Were drinking?

1:29:02

Because you never had coconuts?

1:29:05

Okay?

1:29:05

You never had being. I

1:29:09

just feel like i've seen you there something Maybe

1:29:11

maybe hey, maybe maybe may the

1:29:14

store is a real yard. Yeah yeah, okay,

1:29:17

good food, great food. Maybe

1:29:19

I should maybe give me the address. I like

1:29:21

to excuse I love coconuts. I haven't been in

1:29:23

a while. Still order this is

1:29:26

this is this is an easy one

1:29:28

for you. Reggae or reggae throng. Good?

1:29:39

I mean.

1:29:42

I got cuman girlfriend, man, man,

1:29:45

we got reggaeton, reggae,

1:29:49

reggae, reggae, reggae, reggae.

1:29:53

Reggae based upon me, Okay,

1:29:56

just me in general, Biggie

1:29:59

or big L Biggie or

1:30:02

who big L.

1:30:04

Big big L?

1:30:05

Who's big L?

1:30:06

We could move on there, maybe

1:30:09

I know arlam. Yeah, showing

1:30:12

the court down with camera on them original.

1:30:13

I'm not good at that. Okay, I'm not I'm

1:30:16

going from that. I mean, I'm not good

1:30:18

at that one. I'm I'm in college,

1:30:21

man, I'm like, I'm a football player, bro,

1:30:24

I'm like, I'm not even thinking about this stuff.

1:30:26

You know what we played when I was in college, them

1:30:28

boys from Texas.

1:30:29

They used to play.

1:30:30

Ghetto boys, ghetto boy and the big album

1:30:32

was when Drake Chronic Chronic

1:30:35

first and then when Stoop Dogg.

1:30:37

That was like yeah, that

1:30:40

was like an album.

1:30:40

Like everyone was like you got I

1:30:42

remember chasing, I remember driving to places just

1:30:45

to get that album.

1:30:45

So just so because in my college

1:30:48

that was a culture. Ghetto boys.

1:30:53

Saw me. Yeah you got the next three, go for

1:30:56

it. Cap Sizzler was

1:30:59

this what

1:31:01

kind of questions is a trick question? You

1:31:05

know, it's been question came to the

1:31:07

sil question. That's a trick question,

1:31:10

give my give my shot. I

1:31:14

like, I like the shot I do.

1:31:17

I line up a mixed no problem we're doing,

1:31:21

don't go both? Yeah? Look

1:31:24

answer boat.

1:31:28

Wow, y'all foul for this one, bro? You putting

1:31:31

the family against each other? All

1:31:35

right?

1:31:36

Stephen Morner, Damien Marning, that's

1:31:45

the yeah.

1:31:46

I came in here on one love.

1:31:53

A shot.

1:31:53

You we got?

1:31:55

You know what, y'all did everything shot like that, y'all.

1:31:58

You know what you're gonna make you listen,

1:32:03

you said it earlier. It got to be us

1:32:05

around with. It's just us.

1:32:10

Based on disrespect.

1:32:13

Right about that?

1:32:14

That was respectful? Oh?

1:32:16

I like this one. Yell in trouble man. We're talking your

1:32:18

pay crazy

1:32:21

Marcus Garvey or Malcolm X.

1:32:24

Wow? Wow, all

1:32:27

right, so Malcolm

1:32:29

X is born. I'm sorry.

1:32:32

I'm born on Malcolm X birthday May

1:32:34

nineteen, whereas we so obviously I love

1:32:37

Malcolm X. But growing

1:32:39

up I learn more about Marcus

1:32:41

Garvey as a Jamaican and it's when

1:32:43

I came to America, really I started learning a lot

1:32:46

about Malcolm X, you know, and

1:32:48

you know that just for

1:32:50

myself. So it'd be like Marcus Garvey

1:32:53

just because of popularity and the

1:32:56

movement to rastify a movement, and

1:32:58

those all the things I've said before. You know, I've read

1:33:00

his books and such, not a lot of his

1:33:03

books. I'm not going front, but I've

1:33:05

read some stuff.

1:33:06

So Marcus Garvey, okay, patech

1:33:09

or a protect

1:33:12

believe.

1:33:13

I'm trying to sound French and ship. I'm

1:33:16

assuming this is with them all. I don't know nothing

1:33:18

about you.

1:33:22

Make it material,

1:33:25

don't make you watch Apple

1:33:27

watch.

1:33:31

I mean they have choices like that because most

1:33:33

of my things are gifts.

1:33:35

Okay, so.

1:33:38

Both both we're drinking

1:33:42

drinking majesty where patch

1:33:45

you know, and

1:33:49

I'm we're in the other stuff.

1:33:50

So you're

1:33:55

slipping on your You

1:33:58

were supposed to tell me that I'm

1:34:01

offended, he WROTEXT.

1:34:04

We got to step it up, Yes, sir, drink

1:34:07

to that.

1:34:09

A lot. Luther had a lot of Rolexes,

1:34:14

Lucy Kings or Helly Selassie. What

1:34:19

you say, mar Luther King or Helly Selassie.

1:34:22

It's the same thing as you know.

1:34:27

Drink.

1:34:29

Shot shot

1:34:32

that is called not as disrespectful

1:34:37

of this world? Okay, you

1:34:39

want to go to like who even dare

1:34:42

even mentioned these things? Dead

1:34:45

friends or public enemy? Wow?

1:34:49

Wow, that's a good one. Wow,

1:34:52

geesh.

1:34:56

This time because I'm you know,

1:34:58

m one and those

1:35:00

are great Chuck d dig And then,

1:35:02

you know, growing up like my brothers, you

1:35:05

know, being in music, you end.

1:35:06

Up meeting everyone on the side, you know, on the side on

1:35:08

the side, Guy, that's my brother.

1:35:10

Hey, what's up?

1:35:10

You know.

1:35:11

So they're like an extension of each other like that

1:35:14

press back. But then, but

1:35:16

that press used to come down to Jamaica in

1:35:19

the early time, you know.

1:35:21

So I met them in Jamaica. Actually, how could

1:35:23

I be that when they didn't Jamaica.

1:35:25

Yah, so you kind of like I have an affinity to

1:35:27

them too, you know. And then and one again

1:35:29

is region you know, and one is ready

1:35:31

you know what I mean? Boy, we have to

1:35:33

go both.

1:35:36

That, we have to do both. I

1:35:38

see what we're I see what we're going with this. Can

1:35:41

we do a hey, where's it?

1:35:43

We have a tester?

1:35:45

We testing cant that

1:35:48

from migos.

1:35:49

He tried, he tried to. Oh yeah, they tried

1:35:51

to think. Fine,

1:35:56

you can bring your diamont. We give you our

1:35:58

links. Now today,

1:36:01

you know what, it's a hard string day.

1:36:04

And today is my dad's birthday.

1:36:10

You know, that's what that's what's crazy

1:36:13

is I've been seeing you for years and I've always wanted to give

1:36:15

you your flowers, always want to tell you, you know, and

1:36:18

yesterday I forget exactly what happened.

1:36:21

And then we was like, I said, yo, can we push

1:36:23

it? And then they say, you know what, it's Bob

1:36:26

Margy's birthday tomorrow, And

1:36:28

I was like, if that's not divide,

1:36:31

It's like, like, how the

1:36:33

day that I.

1:36:34

Can give you your thank you for joining to

1:36:36

give you your flowers, it's on

1:36:39

the day because you could have been like, no, it's

1:36:41

my PAP's birthday. Because I love this show too,

1:36:44

godam like you.

1:36:48

I watched you want to give No, we want to give you your

1:36:50

flowers, switching because

1:36:54

because nah, you really deserve

1:36:57

this man. Like you know, there's so

1:36:59

many people you know, uh this

1:37:01

air what they say, the heir to the throne, you

1:37:04

know what I mean? So the heir to the throne, right,

1:37:06

there's so many people who don't, who

1:37:09

don't succeed to to fulfill or

1:37:12

try to fulfill to

1:37:15

another great man's shoes,

1:37:17

and to do it in your way and

1:37:19

to do it where you comfortable.

1:37:22

Like you said, your man, I don't really mess with the music like

1:37:24

that. But I'm on the business and

1:37:26

everything else, like honest way of doing

1:37:28

it, and this is your way of being

1:37:31

I and I being and

1:37:33

you're doing it man, like I kid you not. From Angela

1:37:35

Yee to everybody, they always just say, oh man,

1:37:38

you know every time they get they want to go to your hotel

1:37:40

and support you and be like And there's so many great people

1:37:42

that so biger my man, Chris

1:37:45

Jones.

1:37:45

Man. A lot of people don't know. I love Chris Jones.

1:37:50

His father's famous as fun. Yeah,

1:37:53

so I know, y'all. Could it's

1:37:55

just a shot just standing arout there. I gotta take it. It's just a shot

1:37:59

I got one day. I really wanted

1:38:01

to give me flowers.

1:38:02

Man, you

1:38:05

guys get one that's standing out there, and

1:38:08

I'm gonna get the one that's on

1:38:11

the question stuff. Yes, yes, yes, again's

1:38:14

not gonna bring me.

1:38:15

Into your.

1:38:17

Keep the flowers over here. Okay,

1:38:20

Next one, Yeah, shaggy, mister

1:38:22

Vegas, shaggy

1:38:25

shaggy. Next one is yours,

1:38:27

shaggy.

1:38:28

That's easy. You

1:38:31

don't want to take this one. I feel like rosh

1:38:34

you take this one?

1:38:34

Yeah, say it.

1:38:36

It's pineapple ginger or sorrow.

1:38:39

So you just said it. Go ahead, fucked up? Wait

1:38:43

on pineapple ginger are sorry? Yeah? Yeah,

1:38:46

I don't know what Sorry gingers

1:38:48

together and then sorry is separates

1:38:51

the flower, right, Sorry is a Christmas

1:38:53

drink when you have.

1:38:54

Damaica And this is what they make on Christmas.

1:38:57

On christ hype biscus is

1:39:01

like the pub of the eyebiscus. But

1:39:03

but I used to I talked to you about like the

1:39:05

scent right of my

1:39:08

father.

1:39:08

Right, imagine

1:39:12

smelling pineapple ginger wood

1:39:16

and some stew.

1:39:18

That's what you smell, so pineapple ginger.

1:39:21

It's like reminding my father.

1:39:23

I love.

1:39:23

Yeah, Like that's probably one of the house scent.

1:39:25

You go up, you going to the studios, smell that they call

1:39:28

you in the kitchen making them pineapp a ginger

1:39:30

is like as always reminding my father, So

1:39:32

pinup. I love that for that, And it's

1:39:34

heel purposes, of course, but I like that.

1:39:36

I like to.

1:39:37

It takes me to the seventies. You know, you

1:39:40

gotta come to my wife's juice ball. Juice juice ball, Hollandale.

1:39:42

We got all my wife got a juice ball. That's

1:39:45

what we all do. The delivery stuff too, Yeah,

1:39:47

we ain't not not your carib fun

1:39:51

figure out here in the

1:39:53

beach. I ain't telling nobody but

1:39:57

your family.

1:39:57

Down south.

1:39:59

Want to know.

1:40:01

I went to and I saw the fan one day, you.

1:40:04

Know, one of them type of places.

1:40:05

Yeah, well, definitely come to the Juiceball because

1:40:08

Pineapple Ginger is in effect and sorrow

1:40:11

too.

1:40:11

Clara is good, but it's not that I

1:40:14

mean, so it is nice, but it's not like if you ask

1:40:16

my favorite team, I got for Pineapple

1:40:19

Ginger, okay for real.

1:40:20

Or Kanye any way

1:40:22

you want to pick evil

1:40:30

motherfuckers?

1:40:31

Yeah, yo yo,

1:40:37

wow, geesh.

1:40:40

This is them type of questions when you like,

1:40:42

if people were your friends, if they even like some of the stuff

1:40:44

you like it, you

1:40:48

know, your type of ship where your friends.

1:40:50

Motherfucker.

1:40:52

No, that's a good one because those

1:40:54

are like a really good comparison

1:40:56

based upon you know, because

1:40:59

obviously in regards

1:41:01

to the fashion side.

1:41:03

Right, you know what I mean, I knew he was gonna

1:41:05

go there.

1:41:05

It's a thing because they you know, that type

1:41:08

of that's you know, that's street culture,

1:41:10

that high luxury

1:41:12

stuff where they play around and you know, and

1:41:14

then as a music creative, you know what I'm

1:41:16

saying, They even connected music as a creatives

1:41:19

as a music builders, you

1:41:21

know what I mean, like producers.

1:41:23

Wow, that's a tough one shot

1:41:26

leading the witness man.

1:41:27

You keep which one is shot for?

1:41:29

Again for Kanye, you just wanted

1:41:32

to be cool both.

1:41:32

If you want to be cool with both, he said,

1:41:35

you want the gear from both of.

1:41:36

Them, I'm gonna go both to getting I

1:41:38

mean, that's

1:41:40

man, you got no listen, I'm a bigger We're

1:41:43

doing We're gonna do a

1:41:45

shot because you know it's one love,

1:41:48

one love.

1:41:49

It's one love.

1:41:49

You know what I'm saying, Because I've been trying to get

1:41:52

into the Yeah, the

1:41:54

lou Louis buiton Cowboys

1:41:56

ship. Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not into that ship

1:41:59

either. Yeah I'm not.

1:41:59

I mean, but if you talk about like I'm

1:42:02

not into that stuff like he tried, He tried to do it.

1:42:04

I saw him over there.

1:42:06

Killed it cowboy

1:42:08

hat like, but be honest,

1:42:10

they could do it.

1:42:11

You know.

1:42:12

You know, you know who's a dope.

1:42:13

You know it was awesome Oswell

1:42:16

Bow Tang you know you make make suits and Sava

1:42:19

Roa in London, bang from

1:42:22

He's a super sharp

1:42:25

to the t growing man.

1:42:26

Stuff Okay, that good

1:42:28

stuff too.

1:42:29

I like everyone thinks, I like you know who.

1:42:31

I also like Jerry Lorenzo, you

1:42:33

know, from this

1:42:35

is Brank fair of god essence,

1:42:38

fair guy, yeah,

1:42:41

fair guys dope. But I remember Jerry in LA

1:42:43

when he used to run the nightclub scene

1:42:45

and thing I lived out in LA

1:42:47

and then to see him like, you know, and Jerry, Jerry

1:42:50

come from his father as a baseball player

1:42:52

from I think Dodgers or something that's

1:42:55

Super Baseball MLB. Jerry's

1:42:58

you know, me, been around sports a long time, so he

1:43:01

kind of inspired by that athletic word

1:43:03

that he's doing.

1:43:04

So I like, I like what Jerry's doing.

1:43:06

He's one of my.

1:43:06

Guys too, So I guy, you didn't, guy,

1:43:09

you didn't throw him into the mix?

1:43:11

Yep? Okay, and

1:43:14

we did take a shot for that, right, we

1:43:17

take a smoke.

1:43:18

One of these. Yeah, please Dave

1:43:20

Chappelle or Chris Rock all

1:43:22

right, Dave Chappelle analog

1:43:26

or did you h

1:43:31

whatever?

1:43:32

Hey, I got an.

1:43:32

iPhone podcast or

1:43:34

radio podcast

1:43:41

because you know what.

1:43:43

We got to move with the times. And I like this show.

1:43:46

God damn it that Gregory

1:43:52

Isaac's Peter Tosh.

1:43:58

I guess we're thinking for that method

1:44:05

Man or red Man the

1:44:08

brothers.

1:44:09

That's true. That's why we said, what do you do?

1:44:16

You gotta do it both.

1:44:17

Okay, you can't like. That's one

1:44:20

thing you can't like. That's one you.

1:44:22

That's like I said, you said like you

1:44:24

just can't put those guys against each other.

1:44:26

You care, that's like that. That's something.

1:44:28

Wait a minute, those are that's one of them things that you should

1:44:31

drink on your own for it.

1:44:37

Question.

1:44:39

That's a true question.

1:44:41

That's like a trick. Okay,

1:44:46

love or fear? You'd

1:44:48

rather be love or feared?

1:44:52

All right?

1:44:53

Mm hmm. This is the Robert. I'm

1:44:58

gonna tell you why though love?

1:45:01

Because why love? You see a lion?

1:45:04

You have to love me? Mm hmm.

1:45:06

But you yourself, no,

1:45:09

you fear me?

1:45:10

Mm hmm.

1:45:11

You did, right.

1:45:12

So it's love first because I walk in dominion

1:45:16

and I walk in love with myself. But

1:45:18

you're on the outside when you look on this

1:45:21

lion, you know it's fear, but

1:45:23

it's truly love. So because

1:45:26

we're ever ready, you

1:45:28

know what I mean. But it's really love. But

1:45:30

we're lions. And I saw a lion

1:45:32

or that that was.

1:45:34

All ended

1:45:40

with this one yeah, yeah,

1:45:45

not.

1:45:45

But in the interview with tamaslave

1:45:48

loyalty or respect loyalty?

1:45:52

Okay, is that fast? Because

1:45:54

with loyalty come respect because

1:45:57

you know, first you have to have the loyalty. Then there's cook.

1:46:00

You know, respect is subjective

1:46:04

because some things you do true

1:46:06

love and true loyalty, and then

1:46:08

it becomes like I respect this man because

1:46:11

I love this person, and I'm liing to this person

1:46:13

because of love. So it's really

1:46:15

you know, it's always got to be loyaltyalty,

1:46:19

you know, it's just truth. I'll take a shot

1:46:21

to that.

1:46:21

Yeah, I'm taking you ain't take a shot,

1:46:24

take a lot. You got mass smart, that

1:46:27

was smarter, That was smart. I

1:46:29

ain't gonna lie. You know, I'm

1:46:32

gonna take You

1:46:34

want to do it together, you know, because

1:46:38

you know, you know what it's just in my mind.

1:46:40

I got to get because he's back from it's

1:46:43

my mind. I got to say this out. One

1:46:49

thing about Jamaicans,

1:46:52

right, Jamaicans always had

1:46:55

juice bars wherever I was at

1:46:57

my hood, and

1:47:00

they would be.

1:47:01

The most health conscious people. They're

1:47:03

preaching it, preaching it at the same time

1:47:08

telling me, but.

1:47:11

Who says it's not health I didn't

1:47:13

say it's not.

1:47:15

But that's that's tackling mental health.

1:47:17

I give you, I give you. You

1:47:21

know, in the hood, a lot of people can't

1:47:23

afford to go to the doctors. So what they

1:47:26

do is they go to the local juice bar. And

1:47:29

I remember, I tell this story all the time. That's

1:47:32

the reason why I believe in tager bone. I believe

1:47:34

in pills.

1:47:35

Believing it and drinking it every day.

1:47:36

It's two different things. But okay, I

1:47:39

went to a juice ball one day. The police

1:47:42

came. I've ran into the juice bar. I

1:47:44

did not realize that the juice

1:47:46

bar was the west. So I'm wanting into where

1:47:48

they they're going. They're reading you running from

1:47:50

them, running into where they're going, looking

1:47:53

idiot. So I get outside

1:47:55

and then the police say to me, well, what

1:47:59

was you doing in there? I was like, I was buying

1:48:02

tiger bone and the police

1:48:04

is like, okay, great, I didn't know tager bone was illegal

1:48:06

at the time. They run in whatever.

1:48:08

Whatever. The next day I come up, I say, yo, what the

1:48:10

fuck happened? This is some idiot told the

1:48:12

police we were selling tagaphone.

1:48:14

I was like, that was me.

1:48:16

They was like, normay, this is illegal. So

1:48:18

anyway, that same week, a

1:48:21

guy comes to the same health

1:48:23

whose spot and he hugs

1:48:26

this man. He

1:48:28

hugs this man. And when he hugged

1:48:31

him, I never seen a

1:48:33

man hug another man. This

1:48:35

platonic. This is a platonic. But this

1:48:37

was like and he said it

1:48:41

was like he started crying. So I looked, and

1:48:43

I was that curious. I was like, yo, my man, I never seen

1:48:45

like, you know, one straight man hugging

1:48:48

him, a straight man like that, Like

1:48:50

what happened? He said? Straight?

1:48:53

He said, he said, my

1:48:57

dick didn't work for seven years.

1:49:00

Are here?

1:49:01

He said, I told my this is the guy saying

1:49:03

this to me. He said, he told his

1:49:06

wife to cheat on him because he couldn't

1:49:08

he couldn't please them. But this man

1:49:11

got ginger root and

1:49:14

fucking tiger bone and

1:49:16

and and these pills from these

1:49:19

rosterfarians. And this man said,

1:49:21

I'm fucking like a rabbit right now. And

1:49:25

I'm looking he's crying his tears.

1:49:27

This is a grown man.

1:49:29

This is a grown man.

1:49:30

This is beyond years.

1:49:32

I can't even tell you what type of sixties

1:49:34

he was.

1:49:35

In, even a silver status.

1:49:37

Yeah, he had you beat. His

1:49:40

ship was great everywhere. His ship was

1:49:42

great. He's a culture and he

1:49:45

starts a roster Farian

1:49:47

cultures and man,

1:49:50

this guy is somewhere naked.

1:49:54

You know what, you know what your couture,

1:49:56

angoes you meet, you

1:49:59

know why, it's the cousin. What's

1:50:02

the most important thing to us as

1:50:05

human beings? Men are women

1:50:08

to reproduce? No having

1:50:11

a partner, right, like why right?

1:50:16

Why for for creation?

1:50:18

For yeah?

1:50:19

So so it's so it's

1:50:21

the most important monication. Part

1:50:28

of that's the crowd say, it's a form

1:50:30

of love. Okay, it's an exercise, it's

1:50:33

an exchange each other.

1:50:35

Right, But you have to be able to do

1:50:37

that.

1:50:38

You've got to be able to service your you

1:50:41

have to I mean, so

1:50:43

you have to just be able to you know, provide.

1:50:47

You got to do that. You gotta do that.

1:50:49

So our culture, guys, yeah, facts,

1:50:52

our culture is like that.

1:50:53

Everything you drink, everything you eat is

1:50:56

all based around that fish.

1:50:58

You drink fish water for this, not.

1:51:01

Every this is that. Everything is

1:51:04

around the productive organs.

1:51:06

Every everything that every every Jamaican

1:51:09

friend of mine sorrow everything.

1:51:11

Yeah, that's why you're sorry,

1:51:16

every everything for

1:51:19

the wine, everything know everything everything

1:51:26

your last longer what we gonna

1:51:28

lasts? Long. Hold

1:51:33

using bathroom? You gotta use the bath room.

1:51:36

No, I'm fine, okay, hold on, I guess all

1:51:38

right, Well, okay,

1:51:41

you put.

1:51:41

It, you make it?

1:51:44

What's that?

1:51:45

You know?

1:51:45

What what is that?

1:51:47

You know?

1:51:47

You smoke?

1:51:48

No, I don't smoke.

1:51:50

You know my lungs are still in the nineties.

1:51:53

I'm sorry. My lungs

1:51:55

haven't grow up.

1:51:56

My moms have not grown.

1:51:58

I see you running, though, which I see

1:52:00

you running every morning getting

1:52:03

five A I'm jealous.

1:52:05

Yes, you know. You make me jualdous.

1:52:07

You motivate, You motivate us.

1:52:09

You want to could

1:52:11

be a drink, but you know what, we're gonna have a balance

1:52:14

in like you motivated us.

1:52:15

You do.

1:52:16

It's good to see you doing that. I

1:52:18

like to run on the beach myself.

1:52:20

Oh yeah, I'll tell you. I want we're going with your

1:52:22

man stap on the bike. Nobody's

1:52:25

in our way. Yeah, move

1:52:28

out the bike lay.

1:52:31

Ryan stays moving. Your

1:52:34

son has a hit record out now you ship?

1:52:38

Yeah? I mean, how

1:52:40

can you and Laura not make have a son with a

1:52:42

hit record?

1:52:43

It's just it just has to go. It

1:52:45

goes along with it. I can.

1:52:46

I'm gonna say this though, commend

1:52:49

miss Laurence Hill, because yes, when

1:52:52

we talk about like, I

1:52:55

only know certain people like this, right, And

1:52:58

it's just I mean, you know, obviously

1:53:00

it's my son, you know, but

1:53:03

you know she's his mother and.

1:53:05

You know what her craft is. Absolutely, but I only

1:53:07

know certain people like this.

1:53:09

And it's one of the reasons why when I was young,

1:53:12

I always made it my point to never interfere

1:53:14

with Missile's music, like I

1:53:16

always, you know, I take a backseat to her music

1:53:19

because she's super great,

1:53:21

you know. And you talk about public enemy.

1:53:23

I remember when Chuck d said, like Laurence

1:53:25

like the female about Marley. You

1:53:29

know he's right about that. Yeah,

1:53:32

it's truly right because she's like really

1:53:34

that person. And when you talk about

1:53:37

someone that stands on principle, you

1:53:40

know, like because like I said, at

1:53:43

some point in life, you got like own yourself,

1:53:45

you know, like on yourself, you

1:53:48

know what I mean. But I'm

1:53:51

here, I want to get here, you no, not, I mean like

1:53:53

that because you know, as

1:53:55

a musician and because

1:53:57

sometimes you like going through stages,

1:53:59

right, and then

1:54:01

it so happens that you still have to do this,

1:54:04

but you're still going to your own mind

1:54:07

and solidifying your consciousness

1:54:09

in regards to walk in this way that you see

1:54:12

as your way, and no one believes

1:54:14

in your way because it's not your way.

1:54:16

So you have to kind of own your way.

1:54:17

And it's new to you because it's

1:54:20

a vision that you have for yourself, right, so

1:54:22

this way is new to you.

1:54:24

So for you to attain this way,

1:54:26

you have to do it.

1:54:27

And people are going to say, oh, she's this, she's that, But

1:54:30

then again you're in your mind and then you got

1:54:32

to perform. So sometimes there's a delay

1:54:34

because of all the accolades,

1:54:37

all the attributes that go along without

1:54:39

the attire and this and that. The timing

1:54:41

is always you know, may you get up at one

1:54:44

and you got to be on stage at eight, but you take five hours

1:54:46

to do this, you know, So you know timing is so.

1:54:48

But today and been through that and

1:54:51

seeing her in Brooklyn performing

1:54:54

with the fuji Is again learning on the Fuji is

1:54:56

it was just like questioning, you

1:55:01

know what the greatest, the greatest rap

1:55:03

band ever in history is the Foujie's hands

1:55:06

down.

1:55:06

So to see them on stage together

1:55:09

again and Lauren Hill and the Sons

1:55:12

and like they're like the standings here.

1:55:14

That's that's that's kind of crazy. I didn't even look at

1:55:16

that, so you just said that that's real.

1:55:18

So it is what it is.

1:55:21

But to see now why G and

1:55:24

to watch why G Marley because his name means

1:55:26

young Gong. My dad is tough junior

1:55:30

go, so

1:55:32

I mean, but y G like it's

1:55:35

special. You know, my

1:55:38

brother called my brother Stephen when he was young,

1:55:40

he called him Josh.

1:55:42

Yeah.

1:55:43

He's baptizing the river, the Orthodox

1:55:45

river, by the same priests that baptized my

1:55:47

father. All of us Orthodox.

1:55:49

Yeah, we're all Orthodox, you know, but

1:55:52

especially you know, I grew up in Jersey, South Orange,

1:55:55

so but he's he's rough because

1:55:57

you know, there's no better so

1:56:00

Jersey South Orange. Yeah, and

1:56:02

you walk South Orange went to like

1:56:04

Columbia High School and thing hunting and

1:56:06

then places, so you g going to go

1:56:09

as like an independent, you would still finding

1:56:12

his way because as his parents, we

1:56:14

don't really try to.

1:56:15

Did what you did, like found his own

1:56:17

way? Yeah, Fox so

1:56:19

too, I mean, And then you know, first

1:56:22

when I heard the song, I was like, wow,

1:56:24

Josh, Wow, we got to clear this.

1:56:27

Who do I think? Who do you think? I'm sorry? Yeah,

1:56:30

who do you think had more pressure? You trying

1:56:34

to be great in your world or him trying

1:56:36

to be great in his world.

1:56:37

Oh, man, he don't have no pressure. Man, he

1:56:41

don't have no pressure. His

1:56:43

mother paved the way I did

1:56:46

what I had to do, his father, grandfather,

1:56:48

legacy.

1:56:49

He ain't got no pressure. Did you

1:56:51

see how cool he is? But

1:56:55

it ain't because of that. It's

1:56:57

because of the cause of his own life, his

1:57:00

own experiences being that.

1:57:03

And then remember, right, Lauren

1:57:05

Hill is his mother. Listen

1:57:07

to all the stuff in the media about

1:57:09

your mother, whatever they say about

1:57:12

your father, but listen to how they try

1:57:14

to hurt your mother because

1:57:16

she don't confine the system

1:57:18

and listening to that and going to.

1:57:20

School and you have to and still

1:57:22

have to be the lion that you are.

1:57:24

He's like, yeah, fuck that. So

1:57:27

yeah, I have to take a shot.

1:57:32

Because they tried to destroy Lauren

1:57:34

because miss Hale pardon me, they

1:57:36

tried to destroy Miss Hill's work

1:57:39

and legacy because she didn't want

1:57:41

to do another miseducation the

1:57:43

way they wanted her to do it.

1:57:45

She wanted to make.

1:57:45

Music as her evolution,

1:57:48

so through that now they would you know, so you

1:57:50

know the record, you know the thing.

1:57:53

But she ain't gonna bow to that. So she's

1:57:55

a real queen in that industry.

1:57:57

And she's and people say, oh, we

1:57:59

don't, well, if you're true Lauren Hill fan, you

1:58:02

know that whether she's not

1:58:05

at the same time that you guys want her to be on stage,

1:58:08

but she had been touring ever since

1:58:11

and still touring today. So she's

1:58:13

like to me, she's like

1:58:15

the band, like she built a career

1:58:17

like the Grateful Dead.

1:58:19

She's not like a woman. She don't chase

1:58:21

some interviews. That's

1:58:24

ad person.

1:58:25

But now it's so beautiful to see

1:58:28

her create her art and

1:58:31

teach Joshua the way and bring

1:58:34

Joshua on stage open for the

1:58:36

Fuji's reunion and Laurenie on the Fujis

1:58:39

to give him away and give him a spotlight and

1:58:41

and like guide him, help him to

1:58:44

orchestrate his music like kind

1:58:46

of you know, she's a.

1:58:48

G like really g like real g

1:58:50

bro bro Like she's ill. She's

1:58:53

like top notch.

1:58:54

It's like a shot what

1:58:57

you call them.

1:59:00

Yeah, you gotta call her by her name, Miss Hills.

1:59:02

You know, some people go by this and that, you go by

1:59:04

that. Cheers fellows, cheer, cheers still that

1:59:08

ye respect holy ship

1:59:11

and we had prize On, we had w Cleft,

1:59:13

we had a white Cliff. Brothers, brothers,

1:59:16

yes, my brothers, both of

1:59:18

them. We would love to have them.

1:59:20

We would love to have miss Hill.

1:59:24

We please. We're

1:59:28

not asking, We're just saying

1:59:30

it out loud. We

1:59:33

want ask you. No,

1:59:36

no, we're

1:59:41

asking.

1:59:41

We're asking the God.

1:59:44

He's not saying Miss Hill. Trust

1:59:49

no, I don't know.

1:59:53

That's the respect I have, right because trust

1:59:56

me, I don't want to know.

1:59:57

Man, no interruption. So

1:59:59

but but I like, I will

2:00:02

do a copy paste. You know, I

2:00:11

have nothing to do with this. Just I'm

2:00:13

just sharing. I will for sure, I'll

2:00:16

share that, you know. And then obviously.

2:00:20

You know now now now because

2:00:24

people always try to like pin you to a

2:00:26

time, you know what I mean.

2:00:28

And like you said, oh I remember, you

2:00:30

know. I read the comments.

2:00:31

Oh this guy.

2:00:32

I remember this guy because the

2:00:35

one.

2:00:35

Thing for sure, though she don't

2:00:37

like when to talk about this, but I like to talk about it

2:00:40

because it's a fact.

2:00:42

I remember these people. I see this guy, this keyboard

2:00:44

player, he's always such.

2:00:45

A great guy whatever whatever, But anyway, he

2:00:47

wasn't around when Messille was doing missidication was

2:00:49

on Hill. And I remember when those New

2:00:52

York guys. There were like one

2:00:54

guy was a programmer. She don't like going to talk about. I'm gonn

2:00:56

talk about anyway, because they like to paint her in

2:00:58

this image. I remember she in the programmer

2:01:01

with talented programmer drum program

2:01:03

you know, took him out of the New York and he

2:01:05

had a bridging named Kilo, and they created

2:01:07

this New York entertainment group.

2:01:09

I remember them in the Two Twins.

2:01:10

I was there.

2:01:11

She brought him upstairs to her her place in

2:01:13

the in New York and kind

2:01:15

of like because she really came

2:01:18

programmed the drums, but she knew her

2:01:20

sound. She know what she wanted and those guys

2:01:22

can swing it with her swinger and things

2:01:25

like Michael.

2:01:25

Michael didn't know how to play music, but he would.

2:01:27

Hum the music.

2:01:28

She could swing it.

2:01:29

She so so the time

2:01:31

when those guys, you know, they they oh, Missle,

2:01:33

we want to want such and such on this because

2:01:36

when she met them, she said to those guys that,

2:01:38

you know, I'll get you guys

2:01:40

a publishing deal with Sony, but

2:01:42

you but my music is my music. And

2:01:45

after she did her thing, the guys came back and

2:01:47

tried to sue her, right but

2:01:50

because miss.

2:01:51

Hill at the time.

2:01:53

Was doing her Sabbatico

2:01:57

right sabbatico, meaning she

2:01:59

got in depth within the Bible,

2:02:02

like she really like she's really one of them

2:02:04

people like you know about mine taken on Rastafarai.

2:02:07

It's such another way, you know, she just take on the

2:02:09

truth like tu them old Testament

2:02:12

where she just take take on this life so

2:02:14

to to build her true foundation of

2:02:17

self and what she believed in. But

2:02:19

she she was in that wavelength, the

2:02:21

system was able to take advantage of her right

2:02:24

because she she she didn't really defend

2:02:26

anything.

2:02:27

She said, I don't get whatever she would like

2:02:30

the material like she was in that space. Yes,

2:02:33

that so what you know.

2:02:35

But those guys know that, and they and

2:02:37

because it didn't have to be

2:02:39

that way, and they know that, and they still,

2:02:42

you know, sometimes they beg me for forgiveness,

2:02:45

not in those words, but me.

2:02:47

You know, they call me sometimes and I said,

2:02:50

you know such and such and such. Oh no, so whatever,

2:02:53

you know, because as a musician

2:02:57

and the type of musician that she is, she

2:03:00

needs like certain type of musicians.

2:03:02

But these people.

2:03:04

The problem with these guys, they

2:03:07

they want to be mister

2:03:10

star guy on your project and

2:03:12

I'm like, she's telling these guys no, no, no, no, no. I

2:03:15

like you because you know your knowledge

2:03:17

for music and you're the way you strumming.

2:03:19

I like your sound. But I need you to strumm

2:03:22

this. Uh uh uh uh I

2:03:24

need I need that from you. Don't give me

2:03:26

that. But this is no, no no,

2:03:29

And so that little, that little ego

2:03:31

thing because oh but no, I've been studying

2:03:34

music. I went to music school.

2:03:35

I don't give it.

2:03:35

You could have went to she's the conductor and they're not letting

2:03:37

her.

2:03:38

Conduct, right, So so that

2:03:40

burned their ego. And she don't play.

2:03:42

She don't care. So you know what, Oh,

2:03:44

I'm mister, I work with such a sad care fun

2:03:47

will you work with g like

2:03:49

you care where you work? I don't give it you will care.

2:03:52

So that so she get a bad rap

2:03:54

for those things.

2:03:55

But she's a true g dig and

2:03:57

she don't play, and she's a woman and she's

2:04:00

for her rights as a woman in the industry

2:04:02

and she don't let nobody take.

2:04:03

Advantage of her.

2:04:05

You know what I mean?

2:04:05

Her word is bond like that, and when she says

2:04:07

what she believe in, and she's one of them type of people.

2:04:10

So when you look at Hyeg, you look

2:04:12

at Sayla, Sarah, Joshua,

2:04:16

Joshua is HyG Zion

2:04:19

and then again our younger son is.

2:04:22

Your kids together.

2:04:23

Yeah, we have five okay, wow together

2:04:27

beautiful children.

2:04:28

Have a daughter, right, I have seven

2:04:31

children before and now I have

2:04:34

five other ones, so I have twelve total. I

2:04:36

have seven grandchildren and two on the way.

2:04:39

So I have a long, big family, you

2:04:42

do, and there are beautiful people. So

2:04:49

Lauren and I we have Zion first,

2:04:51

then we have Sailah, then we have Joshua,

2:04:54

then we have John, and we have Sarah.

2:04:57

And Lauren has a son, Micah.

2:05:01

Big respect to Micah.

2:05:02

He's not of my he's not my

2:05:04

child, but he's born on July twenty

2:05:07

third, and July twenty thirty is the birthday

2:05:09

of highly Slashy the first. So yeah,

2:05:13

so I have to love him, yes, even though

2:05:15

he's not I love him same way

2:05:17

like he's not my child. And after

2:05:20

miss myself and Miss Lauren, you

2:05:22

know, we traveled, we journeyed apart, but

2:05:25

I love him the same way as her son. And it's

2:05:27

truly intelligent boy too, So that's

2:05:29

how you know the super intelligence of Miss Dawn

2:05:31

Hill.

2:05:32

Her mother is a school teacher,

2:05:34

school principal.

2:05:35

Father is like a computer scientist

2:05:38

brother as he's a tech guy, smart

2:05:40

family man, ivy league. She went to what

2:05:44

Columbia University for a time. Super

2:05:46

intelligent people just oh

2:05:48

my god, I respect.

2:05:50

I feel no officially.

2:05:53

Respect respect to intelligence. Respect

2:05:55

intelligence.

2:05:57

So I love intelligence, by the way,

2:05:59

yes this one, you know, Yes, inspired

2:06:01

by intelligence. I learned how to use a computer

2:06:04

after college at Miss Lauren Hill's house

2:06:07

after college, after I knew nothing

2:06:09

about.

2:06:10

This technically shit,

2:06:13

I'm playing football.

2:06:13

Man.

2:06:14

He was. He was a jock.

2:06:15

He was a jockey. Man. Man,

2:06:18

I couldn't.

2:06:19

I couldn't do both. I mean today I commend

2:06:21

the kids that are doing both. I

2:06:24

one of that studing pick football at the same time.

2:06:27

Good for you. Man.

2:06:30

Let me ask you a question. Someone

2:06:33

asked me this question the other day. They say, would

2:06:36

I have to be starstruck? And I say, yes, just

2:06:39

probably two

2:06:42

people in this world I'll be starstruck with. Yeah,

2:06:45

Larry David from Curby Enthusiasm.

2:06:48

Uh, last season, right this

2:06:51

last season. I think I

2:06:53

will walk out the room If Larry I think I will

2:06:55

run out of the room because I don't want to meet him. If

2:06:58

he's a dick, fuck

2:07:00

up everything.

2:07:01

Larry David, Larry David and uh.

2:07:06

Jerry sim really yeah,

2:07:09

I don't want to.

2:07:11

Musician Sionfield, you're

2:07:13

really a comedian listen.

2:07:15

I don't know he is.

2:07:18

He has that that comedian all

2:07:20

day.

2:07:20

Like if I go watch something all day, if you come

2:07:22

to my house, it's either CURBYR.

2:07:25

Enthusiasm, yeah, or intelligent

2:07:29

all day.

2:07:30

Like that is intelligence, absolutely

2:07:33

very wise. I mean I recently met

2:07:36

David Chappelle.

2:07:37

Hold, sorry, let me ask, is

2:07:41

there anybody you starstruck.

2:07:44

Who like, like,

2:07:46

have I met them? Or people in

2:07:49

general? All right,

2:07:51

okay, all right, I remember

2:07:54

this is when I knew, like, this is when

2:07:56

I like really knew something because you

2:07:59

know, I came to America in nineteen eighty four,

2:08:02

and this is when I like I knew

2:08:06

this was like okay, because

2:08:08

I'm in Jamaica watching these things and you know it

2:08:11

was a Victory tour and

2:08:16

the tickets in Miami, you can't go to

2:08:18

this concert Victory

2:08:20

Tour Michael Jackson and the Brothers.

2:08:23

Wait, the Jackson five, the Victory

2:08:25

Tour.

2:08:26

It's called Victory Tour.

2:08:27

Man. You guys are in music. You guys music

2:08:30

music stuff. Yes, yeah, but we was young

2:08:33

and too back then. All right, whatever, man, I'm young

2:08:35

too, so the Victory

2:08:37

tour, but I remember, yeah,

2:08:40

I remember right, they were

2:08:42

older too. Watching the news at

2:08:44

my grandma's house in Miami.

2:08:45

I just came here. It's like, I think it's like eighty six.

2:08:49

Yes, gotta be like eighty six. I mean something

2:08:52

like that, because when I was

2:08:54

young, I wanted those zip up zippy zippy parents

2:08:56

like Michael Jackson had, you know, I remember

2:09:00

actually want the news and he busted the

2:09:02

moon log and remember my skin.

2:09:05

The goose bumps. I was like,

2:09:07

wow, so

2:09:10

like that you're still brown skin.

2:09:12

At that time, Michael

2:09:17

Jackson.

2:09:19

And then and then the other person

2:09:21

where like it's like

2:09:23

a superhero to me, Like this person

2:09:25

is.

2:09:26

Like what is

2:09:28

this one is?

2:09:29

Obviously I never met vere,

2:09:32

but do the drum rope for this and

2:09:35

my son and I we have problems about these things.

2:09:37

Don't start the drum rope, buddy, Okay, I

2:09:40

mean we're

2:09:43

in number twenty three. Oh

2:09:46

Jordan, who met Jordan's.

2:09:49

I met Jordan's. Yeah, he met Jordan's.

2:09:51

But the

2:09:54

most awesome human

2:09:57

being I know, like you talked about like starstre

2:09:59

like, wow, I remember, like Lauren,

2:10:03

she was getting an award for N

2:10:05

double N C double P N double.

2:10:07

A C P N double a c P W

2:10:10

A C. He's

2:10:12

like, all right, and

2:10:17

that's how I made that somebody

2:10:22

the guy oh that she's not even right, Okay,

2:10:26

all right, n W A c P.

2:10:29

So Lauren is getting an award and

2:10:32

they're honoring Michael Jordan's So

2:10:35

Lauren, Dad, he says to me, miss Hill's

2:10:37

dad, Well, this time is Lauren for me?

2:10:39

Whatever?

2:10:41

At that time, at that time we're talking

2:10:43

about time period, you're married.

2:10:45

You're married at the time, yes, as

2:10:47

you as you say, right, So,

2:10:50

Lauren, dad said, you won't believe this. Guess

2:10:53

who you're sitting next to. He

2:10:56

says Michael Jordan. I said, get the

2:10:58

funk out of here.

2:11:00

You didn't know you were sitting next to him? No, because

2:11:02

we had the front row Lauren. I mean, remember

2:11:04

Lauren is the top of the top. It's

2:11:07

Lauren, and then it's it's

2:11:09

Michael Jordan and then his wife Cookie

2:11:13

Cookie, No, not Cookie, No, I'm sorry. What's

2:11:15

Michael's name wife's name?

2:11:16

At the time? Okay,

2:11:20

I think so.

2:11:23

So I'm looking I can't believe

2:11:25

fucking Michael Jordan's. It's like, I

2:11:27

can't fucking believe this ship. But

2:11:29

this is the time when he had cut cut his finger

2:11:32

with the cigar opener.

2:11:34

I know his history.

2:11:35

So he was wearing a he's

2:11:38

wearing a band. So I'm like, hey, you're

2:11:40

coming back. Of

2:11:42

course, I introduced myself.

2:11:43

You know.

2:11:44

Second nineteen eighty four was the Victory

2:11:47

Tall.

2:11:47

Yeah.

2:11:48

Remember yeah, what number November second?

2:11:51

Yeah, I just came to America August nineteen

2:11:53

eighty four.

2:11:57

Yeah, so he was already on tour.

2:11:58

Yes, really, Jean, he

2:12:00

was No, I can't with it.

2:12:02

No, I can't.

2:12:04

No, I got expelled out of school Jesus,

2:12:06

and that's how I ended up in America. I didn't even tell you that part

2:12:08

of my life. But anyway, it's another time

2:12:10

for that.

2:12:12

But m J.

2:12:14

Michael Jordan's Michael Jackson, I would

2:12:16

say, outside of my family or

2:12:19

like two of my heroes, heroes, heroes

2:12:21

like I remember sworn Saturdays.

2:12:24

So you're saying you met both MJ's. I

2:12:26

never met Michael Jackson, will be with a Tall.

2:12:29

I would know. I saw when I saw

2:12:31

him on the news, and my my

2:12:34

skin had the goosebumps. That's

2:12:37

when I was young.

2:12:38

I mean I wanted the parachute, the jacket,

2:12:41

I wanted that stuff.

2:12:42

I wanted the Michael Jackson like I thriller

2:12:45

joint, like Billy Jean beat

2:12:47

it. The red black, uh

2:12:49

huh, the red black red specific

2:12:52

red, red, recific red

2:12:55

red red is thriller red.

2:12:57

It's a lot about you because looking

2:13:00

about you, what does this

2:13:02

say?

2:13:02

The black one you might still rob somebody.

2:13:06

The red one you go on to the left.

2:13:08

The left, we don't know the left we left.

2:13:11

We don't know where the level went at bag. But

2:13:15

I'm red ya fire.

2:13:17

Yes you're a Protestant.

2:13:20

Yeah, sure recipes bless

2:13:23

him, bless him, bless hum.

2:13:24

So yeah, so that those are my would be. I would

2:13:27

say people that I think very like as

2:13:30

Jackson. Yeah, man, I remember warring SAP.

2:13:32

One day, right, come

2:13:36

on a FaceTime, Hey,

2:13:39

ro I got somebody for

2:13:41

you. Put Michael

2:13:43

Jordan on faced. I was like,

2:13:47

yo, hey, maen so on

2:13:49

the golf course. You know they're on the boat on

2:13:51

the citing the back of fishing rich ship my

2:13:53

bad. So

2:13:56

I was trying to tell him that streamment. I remember meeting you,

2:13:59

like, hey, man up like.

2:14:04

Cut me up.

2:14:05

But but but the problem was, you

2:14:07

know, you can't get you can't take him too much time

2:14:09

in this man, So he's like what you're

2:14:11

saying, I'm trying to tell him my story.

2:14:13

Man, I met you and so and so and.

2:14:18

Was like you can't hear that ship.

2:14:26

No, step is the type of guy you've been full

2:14:29

conversation Step such and.

2:14:31

Such a later.

2:14:33

But yeah, yeah, all right, what

2:14:36

that's sad. That's sad. That's sad.

2:14:38

Yeah, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, that's the

2:14:40

only people you were fan out.

2:14:42

No, I mean Pele, I.

2:14:44

Met soccer player Pele like like

2:14:47

soccer when you talk about I'm an athlete, dig.

2:14:50

So how about Messy?

2:14:52

Yeah, I'm I mean I

2:14:54

remember I'm a little older, so I always

2:14:56

go all the way, you know, to the right.

2:14:59

Although, Daniel, I'm Brazilian

2:15:01

players, but Messi I do like. But

2:15:04

but I'm more of like, I'm more in Zil.

2:15:07

I'm more I'm more of a Brazilian guy.

2:15:09

Where's Messi from Argentina?

2:15:12

I'm Brazil And then Ronaldo Christina

2:15:14

what was his name? I

2:15:17

mean, I like Christian because he's a legend. He's

2:15:19

one of the most famous football players

2:15:21

in the world.

2:15:22

But I'm in Brazil. I mean, I'm like

2:15:25

Brazil, Brazil. Yeah,

2:15:27

we're not. We have a daughter from Brazil.

2:15:30

He came to my

2:15:34

birthday party.

2:15:39

I bet you we can say any continent. I

2:15:41

feel like he's gonna be like, I have a kid from

2:15:43

that. You're

2:15:49

in Brazil said, yeah, I have a daughter

2:15:51

in Brazil.

2:15:52

I do.

2:15:53

Name is Maria. I think we could be like, well, my.

2:15:55

Presilian daughter Maria. But

2:15:59

I feel like I fear if we say the moon, you might

2:16:01

be like, yes.

2:16:02

The Moon. I have a child.

2:16:05

I told you about my You know,

2:16:07

I'm into UFOs seers

2:16:09

to that.

2:16:11

Who has both kids? Your pops?

2:16:14

But you know, my dad is a father

2:16:16

to the world. But naturally, you

2:16:18

know, nine eleven children?

2:16:21

Is that?

2:16:22

Is that the Rastafarian way to program

2:16:24

is that really is not really a Rastafari

2:16:27

way to program me. I think it's everyone's way, right,

2:16:29

right, But I'm saying in that Magnifude, Well,

2:16:32

well.

2:16:33

I guess what I'm just having to be honest, I

2:16:36

guess what happens right, say,

2:16:38

like, for instance, as a human being, I

2:16:41

have a girlfriend, right or a woman that

2:16:44

I consider I'm gonna be with this woman for a long

2:16:46

time, right, So we're

2:16:48

naturally having intercourse.

2:16:52

And if you have intercourse over

2:16:54

a.

2:16:54

Period of time a lot

2:16:56

of times, naturally

2:17:00

there's gonna have certain results and

2:17:02

they're gonna be positive. So

2:17:09

over a certain period of time, you know, it just happens

2:17:12

that you have children with the woman you're with. So

2:17:14

it's like that, it's really it's like it's

2:17:17

being with someone and having a child.

2:17:19

And then normally, naturally when you're

2:17:21

younger, when you're much younger, right,

2:17:25

you know, and you're trying to find yourself too,

2:17:28

and so sometimes you know, you do things

2:17:30

where you don't say you're

2:17:32

right or wrong. You just feel like it's

2:17:34

the right way, because who's to tell

2:17:36

you it's the wrong way, right, So you figuring

2:17:39

it out for yourself. So you think this woman

2:17:41

is the woman you want to be with, and you're

2:17:43

the person. Then the person along the way changes

2:17:46

your ways or you change your way towards this person.

2:17:49

Naturally, yes, So it doesn't work out,

2:17:51

So you end up being with someone else, and then you

2:17:54

have another child, and then it

2:17:56

doesn't work out. Then you end up

2:17:58

being someone else and you have another child,

2:18:00

and then it doesn't work out, and

2:18:03

it just happens to not work out some of the times,

2:18:06

and it works.

2:18:07

How you manage fothering the children.

2:18:09

That's the best birds in the best conversation I've

2:18:11

ever heard of.

2:18:11

With how you manage them. It's just like you

2:18:13

manage your friends, right right, So

2:18:15

if you so friends, family,

2:18:18

how you manage life? Like some people

2:18:20

don't have children, they manage like Yeah, have you ever seen.

2:18:23

A dog walker?

2:18:24

You've seen one at walk like fifteen dogs. How

2:18:27

you manage that? That's what he does. So

2:18:30

I, as a father, I live for

2:18:32

my children. My life is

2:18:34

to raise children.

2:18:35

That's what I live up.

2:18:36

I love that.

2:18:36

That's why I want to raise like a champion,

2:18:39

you know, So like it's my It's like

2:18:41

my my is

2:18:44

when I get to mold. So that's like my purpose

2:18:46

in life.

2:18:46

Like the things I do is for that.

2:18:49

And then again it's also

2:18:51

a form of pro creating.

2:18:53

And true some instances were loved,

2:18:56

some instances but just happens.

2:18:58

But you know, now, I'm more discipline my

2:19:01

human girlvernor playing that so like

2:19:04

one of them, it's not gonna play. She

2:19:07

don't play it. But that's

2:19:09

another story. But she don't play, and she

2:19:11

gives me. She loved my children. She

2:19:13

gives me that respect and thing. You know, a second.

2:19:16

But to do that, you have to be a father.

2:19:18

You have to be committed to your children. And

2:19:21

you have to know that it is your responsibility as a man.

2:19:24

You know your children or your children, and

2:19:27

you must And my

2:19:29

house is my children. My doors are open to my

2:19:32

children. I have children that are

2:19:34

married. You know, my daughter

2:19:37

Eden, she's married and she has two

2:19:39

nice, beautiful daughters. My grandfathers

2:19:41

to them. I have a son, like my children

2:19:44

graduate college. I have older children. They're in there,

2:19:46

one thirty year old up on this and then the youngest

2:19:49

you have. My youngest is going to be two in

2:19:51

March.

2:19:52

Wow, you out of control, bro. I actually

2:20:00

I'm unplay. But I have a three year old in the fire, and

2:20:02

I'm out of control.

2:20:04

Well I think I'm like in control and stuff. No,

2:20:07

but I understand what you say that. But you know what, that's

2:20:10

the that's just you know, it's

2:20:12

part of.

2:20:13

What I eat. He

2:20:19

said.

2:20:20

I'm a good father, a

2:20:22

productive guy, a ginger

2:20:24

roote.

2:20:25

I can produce. Man, I'm

2:20:27

a productive guy. So but but now

2:20:29

I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm very I'm

2:20:31

very settled in life and I find

2:20:33

the right person for me and then I'm

2:20:36

moving on like that. So it's good. But I

2:20:38

feel like I have a lot of children that I

2:20:41

need now to to build them, build

2:20:43

the characters, build leaders, and

2:20:46

have my own little army so that I

2:20:48

can focus on, you know, and they make you as

2:20:50

well, Yeah, make you.

2:20:52

So that's what I love about children. It's my responsibility.

2:20:55

It's like, it's my responsibility everything

2:20:57

about my child and my children of

2:21:00

them so much, you know, all of them, you

2:21:02

know, and they love each other because I was raised this

2:21:04

way. So it's like and also

2:21:07

I'm.

2:21:07

A product of my environment because you know, growing

2:21:10

up where you just have this way.

2:21:13

But then when you get older, you realize,

2:21:15

you know, maybe it's time to like

2:21:18

be like Ziggi or Cidella,

2:21:20

you know, where you just kind of settle a down and

2:21:23

live life where you don't have to worry about things.

2:21:26

And because it's a it's

2:21:28

a manageable thing, but it's you

2:21:30

shouldn't have to manage life. So I want to live

2:21:32

a life full of trust and that's

2:21:34

peaceful where my woman can take

2:21:37

my phone and do it or whatever. I don't want

2:21:39

to worry about those things again, like yeah, like

2:21:41

because as strong as you are, right as

2:21:43

a woman's there's a woman that's stronger than you, so

2:21:47

and so, and that's just keep puting it

2:21:49

where the woman can take the phone. Yeah,

2:21:52

it's like that because it's too hard.

2:21:53

I can't do it.

2:21:54

No, but you know it's not necessariainly stressful

2:21:56

but not necessarily the thing. But you don't want to live,

2:21:59

like but it's just like you

2:22:02

get to focus on other things, man, And

2:22:04

then.

2:22:04

Most people is broke to you know that? Yeah,

2:22:08

they broke because like they all the

2:22:10

time cheating. I hear you, like trying.

2:22:12

I can't. I can't look, I can't.

2:22:15

I can't call myself innocent. Like I've never

2:22:17

been a bad guy in people's eyes.

2:22:19

I started as just being cool. It's

2:22:23

growth, it's growth, we all, we all sure.

2:22:26

But let me ask you because we talked about Warren

2:22:28

Sapp. Yeah, we talked about ray Lewis.

2:22:31

Didn't talk about was you at the u M You

2:22:34

played at the h U M U M

2:22:37

Rock? Yeah?

2:22:38

Do ah?

2:22:39

You playing with the rock? Excuse me? Do

2:22:42

we call him do it at that time?

2:22:43

Sorry?

2:22:44

But he's the rock? But so you mean I can walk

2:22:46

up to the Rock, do we. I don't think you can do it.

2:22:48

Now.

2:22:48

What was the season? I'm not sure. I

2:22:51

don't think I hold up.

2:22:52

I think you guys had a record season, right we always

2:22:54

do?

2:22:54

You know?

2:22:55

In my college career, I think I lost three games.

2:22:57

In my entire career, we won fifty

2:22:59

eight games straight at home.

2:23:01

Yeah, I've never.

2:23:06

I've never played on a team that was ranked less

2:23:08

than number three in the country.

2:23:10

So you were the Rock.

2:23:12

Yeah, the Rock played with us. Yes, and we

2:23:14

played with the Rock as well, meaning

2:23:17

like you know, the person

2:23:20

on the football field like friends

2:23:22

were you and family that's

2:23:25

dope.

2:23:26

Anybody else We're not naming how

2:23:29

you play with worms and

2:23:31

mind you and mind you.

2:23:34

But they kind of played with me though, like they played

2:23:36

with you, they played with you. I'm the motherfucking

2:23:39

when I was there, I'm the leader you can when

2:23:41

I'm there, I'm leading that team like they

2:23:43

played with me. When you when you

2:23:45

talk to sad, Yeah, I played the real hand.

2:23:49

We talked.

2:23:50

Now, I'm kidding, but listen, ro this

2:23:52

is what I'm trying to say. Right, we could predict you

2:23:54

know what happened to me? You know how I learned the game? I

2:23:58

came here when they expelled me from Cool in Jamaica

2:24:00

because you know, just an,

2:24:04

I didn't like the school, I didn't like the people, but it's

2:24:06

whatever happened.

2:24:07

They expelled me.

2:24:08

So when I came here, I was

2:24:10

going to a school and then Pine Crest Pinkerst

2:24:13

Elementary And it was

2:24:15

nineteen eighty four and it's during the time

2:24:17

when the Miami Dolphins were

2:24:20

like very good with Dan Marino killing

2:24:23

Like if you no, if you ever asked

2:24:25

me about like were my favorite people,

2:24:27

like the Miami Dolphins that Marino was one of my favorite

2:24:30

guys growing up the eighties. Yeah,

2:24:32

So at the school they would

2:24:34

play Miami Dolphins, Miami

2:24:37

Dolphins, Dolphins and one, so

2:24:39

I started loving the game.

2:24:41

And during the time, they were

2:24:43

trying.

2:24:43

To like they seize my father's asset

2:24:46

because they were trying.

2:24:47

To sell his rights.

2:24:48

Right it's published in You wasn't

2:24:50

trying to do that well, the trust

2:24:53

in Jamaica because my dad never left a will.

2:24:55

So it got it was crazy, right, So

2:24:58

because of.

2:24:58

That, they tried to he never tr We

2:25:01

had a trust, but the trust wanted to sell all as asset

2:25:03

or they no.

2:25:03

Longer want to manage the assets. But that

2:25:05

was just them trying to destroy another

2:25:08

man, you know, liquidate all his assets. So

2:25:11

Chris Blackwell, there's a short story. Chris

2:25:13

Blackwell ended up lending the family

2:25:15

the money. We the children, not that that's us,

2:25:17

because that's us as Mama Rita and

2:25:19

all the kids. So we got we borrow the

2:25:21

money, and we bought our dad's rights, so we

2:25:24

own everything. That's when we end up owning our father's

2:25:26

rights. So that's that's wow.

2:25:28

So now coming to America during that time with

2:25:31

the court is.

2:25:32

Movie coming to America, You come in to America.

2:25:35

Yeah, it's a good reference because

2:25:37

I like that because

2:25:40

it is because it's coming to Americ

2:25:42

King. I am a king. The

2:25:44

King is the movement. Let me take you about this king though.

2:25:47

So this king came to America during that time,

2:25:50

and when they seized all my father's assets

2:25:53

and everything. I remember them talking about

2:25:55

selling my granny's house that we were living in, and

2:25:57

being that I was one of Bob's child living

2:26:00

in the house, I was able to put a pause

2:26:02

on the sale to kind of like

2:26:05

jurisdiction rights.

2:26:07

But also remember living

2:26:09

off.

2:26:09

Of my dad's social Security

2:26:12

check ninety nine

2:26:14

dollars a month here in America.

2:26:16

Is American social Security? Yeah wow?

2:26:18

Because yeah, my dad has an American Social Security

2:26:21

check. Remember he worked in Delaware for

2:26:24

some time, you know that, well he did. He was like,

2:26:26

if you work on the Forclift, work

2:26:28

with the DuPont family, these type of people, such

2:26:30

and such, well, my granny worked with them. He worked

2:26:33

for like Chevy or whatever company

2:26:35

is there. So anyway, I ended

2:26:37

up coming here during that time because

2:26:41

my family didn't have no money. My brothers

2:26:43

would come to Miami and kind

2:26:45

of help out with the bills. Mama Retail

2:26:47

would help out with the bills because everything was seized

2:26:50

up. So we were able to borrow

2:26:53

some money from Chris Blackwell to

2:26:55

buy our father's rights. And during this

2:26:57

time, I wanted to like not pressure the family,

2:27:00

So I ended up learning to play football and

2:27:02

got a scholarship so I didn't have to bother my

2:27:04

family about going to college.

2:27:05

And you know, being that I was a failure,

2:27:08

I just.

2:27:08

Showed these motherfuckers that I'm

2:27:11

going to go to fucking um. You bastards

2:27:13

that hated me so much because I

2:27:15

came from Spanish Town and I was Bob's

2:27:18

child and I was supposed to be a failure.

2:27:20

So I had to do that.

2:27:21

So I had to put these fucker's wrong and go

2:27:23

to the um. They

2:27:25

bought that UM. And then that's

2:27:28

kind of my way, you know, and that's how I got into football.

2:27:30

I got a scholarship.

2:27:31

So just to recap a lot

2:27:33

of this though, this is the time period

2:27:35

that the Marley name is not making

2:27:38

money because it's being like these.

2:27:41

And there's all the all the bootleggers. Everything

2:27:44

is seized up, everybody running around.

2:27:46

So we had to get everything under control, and

2:27:48

it took a long long time.

2:27:51

And Chris Blackwell, if I'm not wrong, the same

2:27:53

dude, the only Marlin hotel right

2:27:55

at the studio there.

2:27:57

I used to do a lot of stuff there.

2:27:58

So here his name a Marlon

2:28:01

EANs like Golden Golden

2:28:04

Beach in Jamaica, I forget the name of that place, Bond

2:28:07

where James Bond did some stuff in

2:28:10

Jamaica.

2:28:11

And Strawberry Hills or my dad went.

2:28:13

After the Yeah, my dad went there after

2:28:15

the assassination attempt.

2:28:16

He went to Strawberry Hills.

2:28:18

So yeah, Chris Blackwell, good man, you

2:28:20

know, he helped us out.

2:28:21

He looked out for us.

2:28:22

I mean it's the only person. And another

2:28:24

story with Michael Jackson.

2:28:27

So this is the human side of Mike Jackson. Michael

2:28:29

Jackson, Okay.

2:28:30

This is the human side.

2:28:33

So we needed the money as a family.

2:28:36

MCA wanted to buy my dad's rights,

2:28:38

right, Sony

2:28:42

Japan wanted to buy my father's rights.

2:28:45

We asked Michael Jackson's for some money. Michael

2:28:48

Jackson wanted to buy my fathers because

2:28:50

he bought the Beatles. He did so

2:28:52

he never learned this the money. So

2:28:55

Mike wanted to buy the rights. You never learned iced

2:28:57

the money.

2:28:58

But Chris Blackwell, who was a good guy, you

2:29:01

loan us the money. Oh so you're saying

2:29:03

a human that wasn't such

2:29:05

a great.

2:29:06

No human, No, tell me as

2:29:08

an entrepreneur. The

2:29:11

human side, Yeah, the human

2:29:14

beingside. We gotta pay your bills side.

2:29:16

And you got Chris Blackwell loaned you

2:29:18

the money. Work where Michael wanted to buy

2:29:21

the rights, absolutely, and you

2:29:23

guys were not interested in selling the

2:29:25

rights.

2:29:26

So I remember one of the offers. I think

2:29:28

it was like nineteen ninety one. It was like twenty million

2:29:31

dollars.

2:29:32

So one of my things was because everyone has to sign

2:29:34

all the children everyone, all the children

2:29:36

we have to sign, and how many children is.

2:29:38

This eleven of us?

2:29:40

Okay?

2:29:42

Yeah, yeah, eleven of us or ten

2:29:44

of us that I have us signing

2:29:46

rights, so we all have to sign.

2:29:50

So my thing was, well, shit,

2:29:53

if it's worth twenty million to then we think it's worth

2:29:55

to us.

2:29:55

Exactly right, you know what I mean?

2:29:58

Like shit, I mean, wow, whoa,

2:30:01

that's nice. But we're talking about

2:30:03

it worth a trillion dollars to us? Man,

2:30:06

what you can think about that?

2:30:07

Yeah? No, I can't bargain that. Let's

2:30:10

start there, you know, let's come on, come

2:30:12

up with a trillion so we can make some change, real change.

2:30:14

So that's what we thought about it.

2:30:16

So I remember even then because

2:30:19

as a youth, right, you get this option as

2:30:21

a Marley boy or a Marley child from

2:30:25

what was sold and the money that

2:30:28

was loaned because you borrowed it. When you become eighteen

2:30:30

years old, you get a million dollars, right, And

2:30:33

I remember.

2:30:33

Being at University of my end.

2:30:34

But wait, hold hold up, So when you guys become

2:30:37

any Marty child becomes eighteen years old, you

2:30:39

get a million dollars.

2:30:40

Right because of because of what they

2:30:42

sold, what the trust that is right right, I was there,

2:30:44

so we had to like borrow that money and you know,

2:30:48

you.

2:30:48

Get it, but you owe it kind of thing.

2:30:50

Oh it's alone.

2:30:50

It's I'm gonna tell you about it.

2:30:52

I don't know what it is, but I don't even know what it is, but

2:30:54

I'm gonna tell you how.

2:30:55

It worked out.

2:30:56

So anyway, when I was in college, I remember the

2:30:58

lawyers coming to my my school and

2:31:01

they're telling me, Hey, you're eighteen years old. Now what's

2:31:05

your decision? You know, I said, what decision

2:31:07

I got to make? You

2:31:09

can sign here and

2:31:12

own. Because of the loan that we took, the

2:31:14

twelve million dollar loan, we have to pay that

2:31:16

loan back. So my

2:31:18

million dollars needs either it's going to

2:31:20

go back to paying that loan or

2:31:23

be tame another part of the loan, because

2:31:25

it now it's becoming art. We're owning this company.

2:31:27

We're we're barny mine to own our dads

2:31:30

like any other people. We're barning money against

2:31:33

that. Yes, so now I get the million dollars

2:31:37

or do I take a million dollars and

2:31:40

go live on the beach in Jamaica by

2:31:42

the mansion, do all the great things

2:31:45

I can do in the life and we set forever

2:31:47

in my life.

2:31:48

Let's do it, or do

2:31:50

I take thirty six thousand dollars and carry

2:31:52

on.

2:31:54

So if the choice is the

2:31:56

million dollars will go back you own you're

2:31:59

a part of this company that owns all your day's rights,

2:32:02

which is like all the family, we own

2:32:04

that.

2:32:05

Or we take your million dollars

2:32:08

and really cash out.

2:32:10

Right.

2:32:11

So the lawyers like, hey, well you know these

2:32:13

motherfuckers man, because

2:32:15

the lawyer, right, the bigger the pot,

2:32:18

the more he makes, Right, what do you care about

2:32:20

me?

2:32:21

You know what I'm saying. So he wants you get the bigger

2:32:23

amounts. So you can't get a bigger percentage,

2:32:25

Yeah, because it's the bigger the part, the more fam if I give

2:32:27

him.

2:32:28

If I take the thirty, he's

2:32:30

not going to be happy. If I get the MILLI

2:32:32

and go, you take whatever

2:32:34

you take out that and I be rich forever by

2:32:36

a million dollars in nineteen ninety two.

2:32:40

So I ask these motherfuckers.

2:32:42

I say, to these these asshole

2:32:44

lawyers, these people that work for people

2:32:46

that actually they own you, I say,

2:32:48

let me ask you something. What

2:32:51

did my brothers and sisters do my

2:32:53

older brothers. Remember we talk about age. What

2:32:56

did Zig and Sidela do and Steven?

2:32:58

What did they do?

2:33:00

Row they took the thirty

2:33:02

thousand. I said, where do I sign? Give

2:33:05

me the fucking thirty thousan dollars and get the fuck

2:33:07

out. I didn't see all that part.

2:33:08

I'm adding that was a movie. I'd

2:33:11

say like that.

2:33:14

I chose to give back the million

2:33:16

dollars and live off of

2:33:18

that thirty thousand dollars for a little

2:33:20

bit.

2:33:20

And thirty thousand sounds like interest. Three

2:33:23

thousand dollars was because it was like you

2:33:26

owed each party to pay

2:33:28

back the loan.

2:33:29

It's like nine hundred and seventy thousand

2:33:31

dollars of such and such. So of

2:33:33

the twelve million dollars that we bought from Chris Blackwell,

2:33:35

that's the loan that you're paying back.

2:33:37

We're paying the loan back to Chris Blackwell. Right,

2:33:39

So that money, when we get it, we got ause

2:33:42

that's what we bought. That's an asset. That's

2:33:44

an asset that's giving us this million dollars again,

2:33:47

right, So we're taking that, you know, so

2:33:49

even though we bought it, Yes, so we have to

2:33:51

pay that shit back.

2:33:53

So we the family, the children, we keep

2:33:56

our dad's rights end up until

2:33:58

since nineteen eighty one and it's

2:34:00

been us at the hound. So everything

2:34:03

you see Bob Marley has been us to children doing

2:34:06

it. And big up to my brother

2:34:08

Ziggy Sidela, my big sister

2:34:10

Sadela from holding it down, you know,

2:34:13

all these years, Ma Marita like treating

2:34:15

us all like her own children, like even

2:34:17

though we're not.

2:34:18

She's not my biological mother, but I call that. No,

2:34:22

My mother's name is Janet the Hunter, a

2:34:25

nice little lady that make

2:34:27

nice food, you.

2:34:28

Know, so big

2:34:30

up to Janet that nobody

2:34:32

knows but the place should

2:34:34

have to cook because that was one

2:34:36

of the things is

2:34:39

I feel like Bob Marley is probably

2:34:41

one of the most bootlegs person ever.

2:34:43

Like everywhere you go you see a Bob

2:34:46

Marley T shirt.

2:34:47

You see.

2:34:48

Man, are you telling me that for the most

2:34:50

part, the family gets the

2:34:53

residual state estate?

2:34:57

Is it you guys? Yeah, okay, we

2:34:59

the children. If I'm saying you

2:35:03

trust that no longer exists. Remember we the

2:35:05

trust dissolved and they sold all their assets

2:35:07

and we had to buy it back. So we yeah,

2:35:09

we are in control. So the

2:35:13

things that but obviously there's still bodleg people

2:35:15

out there. But the things that you see, we have our family

2:35:17

seal there and you can see that so

2:35:20

ours. So like for instance, Marley Coffee

2:35:22

is of family business. House Mary

2:35:24

is a family business. De Zion Roots is a

2:35:26

family business. The Room Money Beach House.

2:35:29

It's my thing. But I'm

2:35:32

smart enough to make that.

2:35:33

A family business, you dig, because

2:35:35

you know, I'm nothing without my family.

2:35:37

So is that a dispersed thing to the family.

2:35:40

What is like business like the financials

2:35:43

do you dis first?

2:35:44

Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because we're we're the

2:35:46

directors of the company, so you keep everybody

2:35:49

included. Yeah, all the family members are

2:35:51

part of the business. But you said it's smart, Like it's smart

2:35:53

to keep everything in the family businesses,

2:35:55

you know.

2:35:55

So things that you see, we we are the operators

2:35:58

of our family business, you know, and sister

2:36:01

brother Ziggy after big them up because

2:36:04

they manage all these things. And we work

2:36:06

with c A you know that company. They're they're pretty

2:36:08

good at managing the I P. So some

2:36:10

of these new entities that we're creating, like you

2:36:12

know, Marty Coffee is one of them.

2:36:14

So they managed that.

2:36:16

Marley Coffee, that's my baby he's always

2:36:18

going to hear that ringing in your ears. Coffee

2:36:20

I've been but this is drink. Yeah,

2:36:23

yeah, we drink coffee too. I'm

2:36:25

gonna send you my address.

2:36:26

I got you.

2:36:27

You You have coffee for the rest of your life,

2:36:29

both of you. Well, well, hold

2:36:32

on. I'm

2:36:34

gonna give you coffee when I can the

2:36:36

rest of our lives. When I can, when I

2:36:38

can, when I can. That's

2:36:44

the London that j'amaking right there. He can speak,

2:36:46

he can speak to you in London,

2:36:50

London, man. Wow,

2:36:59

yeah, right

2:37:02

right right in the corner, right right

2:37:05

in the corner. I remember coming and seeing you. How

2:37:08

how was I as a human being? Was that a nice

2:37:10

guy?

2:37:18

Because you know why, I have to live up to this

2:37:20

thing, man, And I'm telling you it's

2:37:23

tougher than you think.

2:37:24

The thing you tell it's not a burden for my day. It's my brothers

2:37:26

and sisters.

2:37:27

Man.

2:37:28

That's what I told you about the burden. But it's

2:37:31

them.

2:37:32

It's like even playing football, I was like, I can't

2:37:34

see I can't let my brothers see me

2:37:36

get knocked on my back, Like.

2:37:39

Like what the happen out there?

2:37:41

Who that? Who's that guy?

2:37:42

Like I can't. I gotta lie.

2:37:44

I can't let them see me. They can't

2:37:46

see me weak and they can't see me. They

2:37:49

can't see me defeated, you dig. So

2:37:51

that's like, that's who I have to be. My standards

2:37:53

are to my my brothers and sisters. Is

2:37:56

like, yeah, Mama, rita, like they

2:37:58

hold it down, they hold the mantle. So I got to like

2:38:00

uphold that. Like I really

2:38:03

like when I when I do things in my mind, like Eve,

2:38:05

when you hear me drinking on your your damn

2:38:07

drink.

2:38:08

Champs, I'm gonna get in trouble later.

2:38:10

My brother Ziggy just talking about, Yeah,

2:38:14

you can't be drinking Bloody

2:38:16

Mary's in the morning. I'm like, there's

2:38:18

a morning drink, sir. So

2:38:23

that was one of my last questions. I don't know what I'm

2:38:26

gonna spell. Great guy might be the same question,

2:38:28

how many times do you get mistaken for your

2:38:31

brothers?

2:38:32

Oh?

2:38:32

Gosh, man, all the time, all

2:38:36

my life. But it's cool because it's what we are.

2:38:39

When they come on to you like you want

2:38:42

hey Marty's.

2:38:44

Like, okay, when I did, I

2:38:48

was doing this thing for Marley Coffee.

2:38:50

Okay.

2:38:50

So there's a line around.

2:38:54

There's a line around the building, right.

2:38:57

I just remember hearing who's

2:39:00

he again?

2:39:01

Is that Ziggy?

2:39:03

I just but I was like, you know, no, I'm Rohan.

2:39:06

I'm Marty coffee guy, the farmer.

2:39:09

You don't have a coffee story. But

2:39:12

it's cool because that's just what

2:39:15

it is, you dig and like it's like even

2:39:17

being in Paris, right, and they were doing

2:39:19

this red carpet thing for the movie and walking

2:39:22

sicks Siggy.

2:39:22

I'm like, no, Ziggy's coming, man. I'm

2:39:26

like, no, man, he's coming, man, I'm going inside.

2:39:29

Like so it's cool though, but I'm

2:39:32

not Ziggy and Steven, Damion, Julian and

2:39:34

kim On and Robert. You know, I'm Rohan

2:39:37

someoneey let you know, no, I'm Roman or no

2:39:39

Ziggas soon come, you know what I mean.

2:39:41

But it's nice. It's irin because

2:39:44

we're all the same people and you all look alike. Though

2:39:46

it's just if I was

2:39:48

would be racist if I was white, but I'm

2:39:50

black. Can still be racist.

2:39:53

You can still be racis looking like your

2:39:56

father got some great fun right

2:39:58

now?

2:39:58

Bro? Yeah, I

2:40:00

do look in a great way. That's

2:40:03

that's greatness.

2:40:04

It's true, the family of God, it's

2:40:06

the energy.

2:40:09

It's true.

2:40:11

Because you know, we all think that we

2:40:14

think alike.

2:40:15

We're seven brothers, seven different minds,

2:40:17

but our aim is highly slessed at at first

2:40:19

Rastafari and like you

2:40:22

hear my brothers, you talk about being good

2:40:24

humans, you know, so we all

2:40:27

aspire to be good people, good humans,

2:40:29

and so we kind of judge

2:40:31

each other.

2:40:32

I don't.

2:40:32

We don't judge like that, but we kind of rub

2:40:35

off on each other in a way where we act like each

2:40:37

other because we like how each other flex,

2:40:39

we like how each other do.

2:40:41

So we like each other just because our were of life.

2:40:43

And even though our big sisters like Cidella

2:40:45

and Sharon, we like them

2:40:47

because they're great mothers and they're

2:40:49

great teachers, the great leaders, the great CEOs,

2:40:52

they're great operators. So we respect

2:40:55

that, and we respect just nature.

2:40:57

And we know that in human nature it's

2:41:00

kings and queens. So we're of the kings

2:41:02

and the women's of the queen. So

2:41:04

we honor the women as queen as they are,

2:41:07

and we walk as the kings.

2:41:08

That we are. God, damn it, damn what make

2:41:10

Let me just say.

2:41:14

We couldn't have ended the better way.

2:41:17

Really really respect

2:41:20

you, your legacy, your family, everybody,

2:41:26

everything that comes with it. Man.

2:41:28

You know, we wanted to give you your flowers. You

2:41:31

deserve your flowers. You

2:41:34

earned your flowers. You are your own legend.

2:41:36

And right, oh yeah, thank

2:41:39

you, thank you thinking, and we.

2:41:41

Wanted to share that in front of everybody,

2:41:44

in front of the public, because it's

2:41:46

real. Ship man. Great, I'm

2:41:49

gonna go. I'm gonna go go hang out your hotel

2:41:51

and be honest.

2:41:51

Can I smoke?

2:41:54

No?

2:41:54

Not in the room weekends? You

2:41:57

got balconies, right, pardon

2:41:59

motherfucker about.

2:42:01

You know, tweets on and

2:42:04

just like anywhere else, we're responsible

2:42:07

for our actions and we do as

2:42:09

we see fit as how we see life.

2:42:11

So if we want to burn, we know how to burn where

2:42:13

we wanted burn. And yeah, we respect

2:42:16

them how to burn.

2:42:17

Bro.

2:42:18

Yeah, I'll be seeing you in Hawaii.

2:42:20

You you different by

2:42:22

the way. On my brother, I

2:42:25

couldn't forget this, okay, Bro.

2:42:27

I did bring two items from my brother, items

2:42:30

that I produce and create and

2:42:33

it's my lion order and line.

2:42:35

Order and hopefully these

2:42:37

are so so

2:42:40

this is inspired by this change right

2:42:44

here?

2:42:44

Yeah.

2:42:44

Absolutely, I decided to do things the right way.

2:42:47

That's a rock Crystal that we're using

2:42:49

right there, and that would look

2:42:51

at finance finance.

2:42:53

Yeah, so this.

2:42:55

Yeah, so this is line order stuff, you know what I mean,

2:42:58

movement, line order, and we believe in good

2:43:01

quality things.

2:43:01

Here, I got them monder the trade, which is made from not

2:43:04

ceramic but personally, and I believe.

2:43:06

In good quality things.

2:43:07

So I got a lot of class the classes

2:43:09

first, yo, Yeah, because why not.

2:43:12

We're kings, you know, so we deserve to

2:43:14

live as kings and be as clean

2:43:16

as possible and try to do the things in the

2:43:18

right way. So we want

2:43:21

to live as kings as we are. And that's why

2:43:23

always say lion order non denomination

2:43:26

because Rastafarai is truly that

2:43:28

because the Russ means

2:43:30

head and the tar fire eye means

2:43:32

the creature of the one being. So we're

2:43:34

in charge of self. And that's what we know

2:43:37

from the lion. The lion is always a lion.

2:43:39

Every single day it wakes up, a lion,

2:43:41

goes to sleep a lion. It's never not

2:43:43

a lion. So we represent the lion

2:43:45

order movement. So that's line order and

2:43:48

my brother.

2:43:51

Let's let's do it.

2:43:55

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