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from one of the craziest cities in the world.

1:00

He's been putting this down since two

1:02

thy and eleven. Everybody

1:05

in the industry, nobody has nothing

1:07

bad to say about him. That I that

1:09

I came in cross with. This

1:12

is our first episode of twenty twenty

1:14

four. We are so happy

1:16

to be back and to introduce shot

1:20

Town's own the one and only

1:22

motherfucking g Herbo.

1:27

Going on. What's the word? What's going

1:29

on? Good man? I'm happy to be here. Man,

1:31

Okay, you're a funny Marcael y'all good? Yeah

1:33

heah yeah, man,

1:37

So what happened?

1:38

Just tell the people because I know you did a phone call

1:40

like explain to some of it. But Jame, you got

1:42

get a drink. I want to ask stories

1:45

with a club,

1:48

so down a limit. Ah, So what happened?

1:50

So look, Marco first and foremost

1:53

like that's my man had a relationship

1:55

probably to doing the interview and shit.

1:57

So originally Sizzle

2:00

was supposed.

2:01

To did the interview like okay for

2:03

the episode and they had it

2:05

like his production staff told us to like

2:08

troll them like it was supposed to be a surprise to come

2:10

on that to control him. Oh weren't

2:13

originally just own bullshit with you

2:15

know what I'm saying.

2:16

But we was a little.

2:17

Like off the salt was you

2:20

know what I'm saying, extra overboard. But the

2:22

whole thing was to come on there and like intimidate

2:24

him on his own show, like pulling him on him,

2:28

put on him. Yeah, and I

2:30

spoke to him like before

2:32

it even came out, and you know what I'm saying, we was

2:34

good, Like I ain't know where if it was

2:37

like a confusion between our staff

2:39

and his production team where they was thinking

2:41

we didn't want it to come out.

2:42

We was like, no, it's cool. I ain't really tripping.

2:44

You feel what I'm saying, Like public perception and what people

2:46

going to take from it, that's another thing, But

2:49

that's the name of the game. That's what come with it, you feel,

2:51

I'm saying, we got to be able to take that you feel. But it

2:53

wasn't like no bad

2:55

blood or no no shit like that, you know what I'm saying.

2:57

Like I know they was because he was saying like after it

2:59

came came out, like no, take it down,

3:02

take it down, like we ain't never do that, Like I ain't never

3:04

tell him like nah, bro, we got us looking crazy

3:06

and some shing like that.

3:07

It was still all love.

3:08

You know what I'm saying. What's you surprise how

3:10

I l that went? Yeah? I was wherever

3:15

was you at? Well was when it

3:18

happened, Like I mean like when you was in Atlanta.

3:20

I had hit him like I hit him and told him

3:22

like no, it's good. You knowee what I'm saying, like the

3:24

ship with with with the Watch and all that ship,

3:27

Like, bro, I got you up. You know what I'm saying. You

3:30

know, it's had on something. At one point, Bro,

3:32

we was doing

3:36

so what you say, But no, I

3:38

was like, it's all love, bro. I know,

3:40

like had came out to the internet. It looked like Nigga

3:43

was on some bullying ship. That's that's that

3:45

was a word that was thrown around, like

3:47

bullying, and that's what That's when I really like

3:49

took yours. But I didn't want to like put nothing

3:52

on the internet or like I don't know how to really play the

3:54

internet, like go back and forth,

3:56

even when it's defending myself. Like you know what I'm

3:58

saying, I know, if it's real love between brun

4:01

we got to understand that that was all that mattered to me

4:03

as long as he knew it was the respect between

4:05

us still, you know what I'm saying.

4:07

I mean me as outside of looking in

4:10

I saw it. I thought that was

4:13

a joke that everybody was in on

4:15

it.

4:16

I'm telling you, like he always too that was

4:18

come and like troll him and intimidate on

4:21

the show. But then when they tried to spend it

4:23

like we was on some bullying ship, That's when I'm like, no,

4:25

I ain't really with that you feel me because I got fans

4:28

that probably you know what I'm saying, situations

4:30

with bullying, and I ain't with that.

4:32

I got kids, right, because

4:34

he always does that awkward stare right like

4:36

he like like he tried to make you seem

4:38

like you ain't making sense.

4:40

That's what I'm scared of that show.

4:42

That's his whole interview style.

4:43

You got really like

4:47

like the people who had the best interviews with him, the people

4:49

who could like troll him back to

4:51

switch it back on. Yeah, that's what we taught.

4:54

Let's make no noise for you

4:58

now. Now we all heard the

5:00

rumors of uh, you

5:03

supposed to be going to jail for five years

5:05

by the grace of God. You know what I

5:07

mean, you motherfucking you.

5:11

You was on vacation, but you left on probation.

5:15

Goddamn goddamn drink that

5:20

Jesus Oh ship, that

5:22

swiggling like a catwoman.

5:24

Holy mo. So what happened?

5:26

Like you gotta be fuckingstatic,

5:29

man?

5:29

Yeah, yeah, man, you know God

5:32

man for real, we got to get all

5:34

praise to God for show, but just

5:37

you know, staying alone, staying the course and

5:40

a lot of.

5:40

Money for show.

5:41

You know what, I'm saying a lot of to stay

5:43

free, and at the end of the day, it

5:45

was taking accountability. You feel me for

5:49

a minor role in some ship, you know what I'm saying,

5:51

and just me being a kid being

5:53

I aid to the fact I don't like everybody

5:56

that know me, and I'm being personal like I did some

5:58

ship.

5:58

I really was able to sit across from.

6:00

My judge and tell them, like, you know what I'm saying, I

6:02

barely know, not even use my cell phone, like I ain't

6:04

never committed fraud against nobody. You know what I'm

6:06

saying. You feel me like I was

6:09

accepting full accountability for whatever

6:11

my role was in the whole situation. You know what

6:13

I'm saying. I wasn't

6:15

doing that to further my career or nothing

6:17

like that.

6:18

She's doing PPP loss.

6:20

Nah, they thought I was doing some shit like basically

6:23

using funds or fraud or

6:25

cards or whatever identity of some

6:27

shit to fun videos

6:29

and shit like that. I've been making money since I was sixteen

6:32

years old, off rap already. I was already

6:34

well off when that whole situation

6:36

to court. You feel what I'm saying, It

6:38

was basically me paying

6:40

for goods like basically like if I'm a

6:43

jet, I'm paying half for the shit. Like if

6:45

it's forty thousand, I paid twenty thousand. I

6:47

gotta have cash already to do this shit, you know what

6:49

I'm saying. So it's like it was a situation

6:51

like that, but I was seventeen

6:54

eighteen at the time. I'm twenty eight you feel me,

6:56

my judge, No, I never even think about

6:58

committing any type of crimes. I'm a real father,

7:02

bade and citizen. I pay taxes, you know what I'm

7:04

saying. So it's like it's really just with me accepting

7:06

full accountability as a man in my and

7:09

my judge really knowing you know what I'm saying, I'm trying

7:11

to still straight and be on the up and

7:13

up, you feel me, And really I

7:16

believe in being vulnerable and just talking

7:18

about situations because you know where to help

7:20

the next generation that helped you, somebody looking

7:22

up to me, you know what I'm saying, Because you got to just

7:24

accept about it and whatever

7:27

role or whatever you do in life and whatever is,

7:29

you got to be able to just stand up and take

7:32

whatever punishment if there is a punishment.

7:34

You know what I'm saying that My judge knew I was

7:36

willing to do that, and by the grace of God, he let

7:38

me walk out black judge, white judge,

7:40

white judge space noise for white judge. I don't

7:42

know

7:47

my judge, Sure, he definitely

7:49

gave me grace, you know what I'm saying, and my family

7:51

in there, and I was able to walk.

7:53

Out a free man. God damn.

7:56

One thing that's just so like me

8:00

going through life.

8:01

Right. I always know,

8:03

like.

8:03

The guy with the ice gral, he's probably not the

8:06

guy that likes

8:07

he's throwing up a front. One thing

8:10

about you, You smile, and

8:12

I believe your smile. That lets

8:14

me know that you've been through a lot.

8:16

Appreciated bro, because one of the motherfuckers smile

8:19

and it's sincere like when you smile,

8:21

I smile like I've seeing you Like,

8:23

I'm like, yeah, nigga, I don't know what you're going through.

8:26

You was listening to my song.

8:27

One day more than he

8:30

was having a Puerto Rican was having a goddamn

8:32

ball. I was like, Damn, I'm not I'm not

8:34

there, but.

8:37

I can tell without you.

8:38

You know, you don't have to be bragging

8:41

or whatever.

8:42

Whatever.

8:42

I can tell you've been through things? Is rap

8:45

something that is

8:47

it all that you thought it was gonna be?

8:50

Yeah, it's like on the

8:52

flip side though, like me like

8:54

what I mean and what I thought it was gonna be as far

8:56

as like the

9:00

pros that come with it, nah, but like

9:02

just the responsibility and what you take on

9:04

and just like actually like I

9:06

believe in like purpose and that like I really

9:08

feel like I was meant to do anything I'm

9:11

doing that while adversity everything

9:13

I ever had to overcome. That's why I'm able

9:15

to smell. That's why I just be so grateful

9:17

for any situation. I take

9:19

the bad with the good, and I don't really look at

9:21

the bad like it's a bad. I just try to learn

9:24

whatever situation I'm going through so I could come

9:26

out on top of it. Like that's why I'm able

9:28

to just be able to smell through all the

9:30

bullshit. So what I mean like I

9:33

felt like what I mean by when I said, yeah,

9:35

that it was everything I thought it was gonna be because

9:37

I really had

9:39

vision for this, even as when

9:42

I first like made a decision

9:44

like all, I bet I'm finna really do this raption?

9:46

And what age was that when you made that decision.

9:48

Come to yeah, like on the serious

9:51

tip, like yeah, like sixteen years old, six ten

9:54

years old, for real, for real. It was like I

9:56

always had the vision to be this one day,

9:58

Like I always wanted to do it independing

10:00

route better on myself. You feel what I'm saying.

10:02

I always hear aspirations of being able

10:05

to be in a conversation with like

10:07

you know what I'm saying my peers in the greatest,

10:09

Like.

10:11

I'm saying this because I'm a humble nigga.

10:12

I don't want to jump the gun, but I always

10:14

wanted to be considered like a legend, like I looked

10:17

up to the holes the waynes and I want to

10:19

be considered like you're letting niggas,

10:21

You're letting your nigga. I'm

10:26

sorry, I'm sorry. I got for real though, bro,

10:28

So I knew what it was gonna

10:30

take to get there. So I took everything that came

10:33

with this ship, all the ugly and I never complained

10:35

about it. I just did it, and it

10:37

always benefited me because now I'm here, Like

10:40

you said, you know what I'm saying, So it's like that's

10:42

what I mean on the flip side of it, because it.

10:44

Ain't always like glittering gold.

10:46

People on the outside looking in and they think this ship

10:48

sweet, like it's, oh yeah, what's

10:50

some of the ugly? So people, the ugly is

10:53

just being able to take a loss,

10:55

whatever the loss is, you know what I'm saying, Because all

10:57

this ship come with losses and trials and tribulations,

11:00

being able to take that, especially as

11:02

a man and a leader. Like I was just talking

11:04

to my brother the other day, like everybody don't

11:06

got the ability to be able to lead in

11:09

general, Like not even with no music, just

11:11

your household, everybody in a family. I just told

11:13

them, like, everybody gonna stop what they're

11:15

doing and follow you if that's what you

11:18

say. If they if you say go left, you people

11:20

gonna go left. Like the ability to lead. I

11:22

always heard that. So when you got that, it's a lot

11:24

of weight that come on your shoulders. You know, I've

11:27

been in that roads. It's alway sixteen seventeen

11:29

years old. So it's like all the ugly, that's the downs

11:32

that come with that shit, because it's like you gotta deal

11:34

with family, you gotta deal with music, you gotta make all

11:36

the sacrifices to be like, oh

11:38

what a by any means type of you know what I'm saying,

11:41

shit attitude. You feel me like it's whatever

11:43

it takes for me to get there. Sometimes you might

11:45

hurt the people you love along the way. Sometimes

11:48

you might lose people along the way. But by any

11:50

means, I'm still gonna get that you feel I'm saying a lot

11:52

of people don't really get that drive and that dedication

11:54

and that shit like a gift and a curse because they put a lot of stress

11:57

on you. I had a lot of stress on me since I was

11:59

a kid, but I always just

12:01

took that ship and rode it and like

12:03

made that ship look easy. You know. I'm like niggas

12:06

say I'm smiling, but it's like you don't know what a nigga going

12:08

through. I'm just grateful for everything

12:10

that comes with this ship. You feel me. So, we can't

12:12

have a bad day as a rapper. You can't have a bad

12:14

You can't have a bad if you're not in the mood to take a picture,

12:16

to stay homes over with, don't do through

12:20

the shows, don't go You know what I'm saying, You can't have no

12:22

bad days no matter what you feel me. You

12:24

know how that ship. Yet when you think Drake

12:27

is sending that hook, well,

12:29

I'm gonna get old Drake. Ass. I

12:32

just feel like it's coming broke,

12:35

broke, I really I ain't gonna

12:37

lie. I got out of like the mood

12:39

of just sending songs though I'll be having so much

12:42

going on.

12:42

So you're trying to tell you Drake actually to send

12:44

a song, and you said.

12:45

No, no, Hell, I

12:49

sent them the song. I sent them songs. But I really

12:51

feel like I really just get in anyway, like type

12:54

of time bro on. Yeah, like we say

12:57

the same stupid thing. Stud that's

12:59

that nineties. That's

13:03

why the music came out.

13:04

Better back then is because we didn't have the option to

13:06

send versus like if you have

13:08

to do a record with Fat Joe Chemisal.

13:11

I had to go to they had to go to their studio.

13:13

They had to go to your studio. Chemistry,

13:16

and you build a bond that comes through

13:18

in the music. I feel like my best ship

13:20

come out like that. Anyways, you're

13:22

together. You got a lot of features.

13:24

You're telling me. Most of your features is

13:27

yeah, I'll be here, Yeah, I'll pull up, You'll

13:30

go to hell.

13:31

Yeah, Okay for real, we're gonna get

13:33

to that. You've got a lot of features. Goddamn it, everybody

13:35

hip hop love you.

13:37

Yeah, I don't know.

13:37

I heard you say one time you don't

13:40

think hip hop love you back.

13:41

I was saying that on some like not the industry,

13:44

but not the love that you actually get from being

13:46

in hip hop. What I mean, like you

13:49

know how that should go, like they love you, they hate you, then

13:51

they love you again. Yeah, everything

13:54

over come. Yeah, all the adversaries. So if you don't

13:56

know that, people don't take that, That's what I mean,

13:58

Like, you gotta look at it like they don't love

14:00

you back, so you don't expect nothing. Just do

14:03

you you feel what I'm saying. Nah, I'm

14:06

talking about like nigga, Yeah, I

14:12

can't because I know you strategy.

14:16

That's that's how you that. That's why I keep.

14:20

I can say, never

14:22

play talk about yourself wrong because

14:25

your body doesn't understand your pot

14:27

You know what I'm saying saying?

14:29

You know what I mean?

14:29

Deep?

14:31

Come on, man, let me get

14:36

that right there, because

14:38

with thinking that, you know, sometimes it just put

14:40

you in the manse that like you're not being

14:42

as motivated, like don't care. You

14:44

know what I'm saying, like I'll be trying to put myself

14:47

in the man said to always be motivated.

14:49

I don't want to have no date just thinking about negative

14:51

ship too, right, I gotta do

14:53

some like productive in some type of

14:55

way.

14:56

Let me let me, let me ask you about

14:58

about your city, right, one that I used

15:00

to go to the Chicago. You know, I got family in Chicago. Got

15:03

Spanish and Black family in Chicago. They

15:05

don't talk to each other, but yeah,

15:07

they gang, they opposite gangs.

15:09

They don't fucking each other.

15:10

And I'm not making they're gonna try to bring them together

15:12

to the They're

15:14

not family, right, Oh, I

15:16

guess you got

15:19

he got Puerto Rican family that are family that don't

15:21

talk. Don't you got that too? You

15:23

got that too.

15:24

But Shottown,

15:27

Chicago is a beautiful city.

15:30

But then it's it's.

15:33

The flip side show. Do you still live in shot

15:36

Town? No? No, hell no, I just go back

15:38

to go visit family and go take care of benness

15:40

I've been.

15:41

That was one of the things that like I

15:43

did first, like I.

15:45

Just here to get in a mental headspace where I couldn't

15:47

be in Chicago that shots too. It was crowding

15:49

me. I got out of Chicago when I was like twenty

15:51

one, twenty two years old. Yeah, I've

15:54

been at it. You believe that most rapids

15:56

downfall is staying in their own city for sure?

15:59

Yeah, because it

16:01

ain't even got a lot to do it to. Hey, it's just the

16:04

you know, the comfortability too. You get

16:06

too comfortable around your people. Everybody know you.

16:08

You get accessible like a lot of this ship just

16:11

you know, like you got to lead or become

16:13

bigger than the city. I

16:15

tell you I can't. When I go to

16:18

New York.

16:19

It's the worst thing for me because one I

16:21

don't know how to not answer the phone right.

16:24

Like, I got that problem. Got that problem? Oh,

16:26

get out of that. Get out of that.

16:28

I've been going through it for twenty years. You

16:30

don't want that problem. You gotta learn how to cut people

16:32

off. I don't because I trying

16:35

eventually still answer.

16:37

Yeah, I know.

16:37

I'm not supposed to be with this dude. I know.

16:39

I know what. I posted a picture at Newark

16:42

Airport. This dude hits me. I tell him

16:44

where the hotel is. He's like

16:46

cocaine. Still, he just

16:48

left the block. Why why did

16:50

I do this? What am I trying to prove did

16:54

I still got connections. It's

16:58

the comfortability, I'm telling your nigga, just comfortable

17:00

like these my people's holy

17:04

molyam.

17:05

But so for a person who's never

17:07

been to shot Town, can you describe it?

17:11

I always do. Like everybody like that's

17:13

never been there, they feel like it's just like

17:16

the wild wild West running

17:18

around there everywhere. It's really like

17:20

he said, that ship super beautiful. You got

17:22

good ass food, a lot of good restaurants. When

17:25

I'm when I'm in the city, I don't really go to

17:27

my old neighborhood. I'll be over there. You feel

17:29

me. I be low key downtown

17:32

and all the beautiful parts and ship. So it's like you

17:34

go down there, it's got good shopping, good

17:37

food. You feel me. But you just gotta

17:39

like be in that realm of things.

17:41

You feel me. Once you go to Chicago and you

17:43

want some tourist ship trying to go ride

17:46

through old Block, everybody

17:49

the city's anybody try to do that, and now you

17:51

feel like tourists and ship. I used to do that

17:53

every place. I used

17:56

to do that too. As soon as it's to do, you're gonna

17:58

go to the trenches immediately, You're gonna go to whatever

18:00

hood right there. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know

18:02

but if we knowing

18:04

what's came with that back then it's before the

18:07

really like when I started traveling twenty

18:09

eleven, twenty twelve, going to New York, going

18:11

to all these places and stuff like that, like Internet

18:14

one really super lit like that everybody

18:16

wasn't posting everything, so we was

18:18

going right to the hoods

18:20

soon as you touch down in any place, you feel me like.

18:23

But now people going down to the hood they record

18:25

podcast out broadcasting where

18:27

you are anything coming that your

18:29

tours. It ain't even gotta people be the people who

18:32

from around now that fuck with you. You know

18:34

what I'm saying that you don't know who watching your page.

18:36

You feel me like, and they know you before you ever

18:38

know who they are.

18:39

Exactly you feel me But like Chicago

18:41

is smooth or Brian, I go back

18:43

home because I love be on my fa beautiful city.

18:46

Hell Ya, I tell people all the time you go out there,

18:48

you really enjoy yourself and ship little

18:50

spots. You gonna go kick it chill this place

18:52

you could be with your kids and ship. You know what I'm saying,

18:55

It's super smooth. You got beaches out there too. Yeah,

18:57

we got lakes.

18:58

Yeah, that type of shit lakes. Now they got a

19:01

lake. It's a lake, bro, No, it's a leach.

19:02

Spots beach that beaches, but

19:05

it's it's basically Lake Michigan.

19:06

Yeah, bro, what you think name was by an ocean man?

19:08

What you think I see a beach lake?

19:13

Only got ship. I

19:19

can't lie to you.

19:20

My brother brought me to he said,

19:23

one of the number one piece of spots in

19:25

the world, Chicago. It was called come

19:27

on you, you got to eat the pizza

19:29

with a fork in the night.

19:31

I love that.

19:32

That's not they took the Donalds.

19:34

He tried to come on with

19:38

the deep disch, but people from Chicago don't eat

19:40

deep dish. But really, yeah, that's right. New

19:43

York we got the best life. That's like tour stopped.

19:46

Y'all. Man, you want to clap. You know New

19:48

York got the best pizza. New York got the best

19:50

piz De Troy pizza is good, though I

19:52

ain't never heard. I

19:57

never heard nobody nobody you

20:02

what what are you gonna say? Jk just joking,

20:07

yeah, just kidding. No, it's

20:09

no Jesus Detroit but big up to the trick trick.

20:12

You know that's my people out there. Oh

20:14

ship boom, you

20:17

better got blue Booe cross Yeah yeah

20:21

are they have Yeah they have of course

20:23

yeah yeah your hell you got a

20:25

bulletproof. Put me on level

20:28

six for the bomb proof or thing

20:31

damn bomb proof the Cadillac Cadillac

20:34

truck like like two

20:36

eighty four.

20:39

That's not bad actually, but you're not trying to

20:41

go to war.

20:41

Now, trying to make

20:44

sure, like

20:46

I ain't gonna lie, bro, growing up in the streets, like

20:48

I always hit a mass. I never put nobody

20:51

out love in Harm's weight, no matter like even

20:53

with like I'm just paranoid.

20:55

I don't even be having ship going on.

20:56

I get I get real love in my city, bro, like

20:58

I'll be able to pop out and shit. But always

21:01

like even like what I'm saying is when I was

21:03

young as a kid, like I never when I used to drive

21:06

cars, I always had cars sixteen seventeen.

21:08

I never used to have my mom in the car. I never

21:10

used to have my sister in a car because I just was

21:12

paranoid if anything happened. I'm putting people

21:14

that I love and Harm's way always saying,

21:16

I'm going to be able to make sure my people safe when

21:19

I really get some real money. You feel me. So I'm round

21:21

with my kids. I want to make sure no matter what, my

21:23

kids, everybody that I love

21:25

family is safe.

21:27

When we ran in Chicago, you never know what.

21:30

Cars just for Chicago, Yeah for real, Okay

21:32

in Chicago like that, ain'

21:34

you're gonna make nobody want to go to Chicago right

21:37

now?

21:37

No, it ain't even that. It's just like you don't

21:39

never know what happened. You know, it's dangerous

21:41

everywhere. You treating me what you just said, and Kanye,

21:44

this isgerous.

21:47

Just like it's different.

21:48

You know what I'm saying, Like you never and what

21:51

I'm saying is I'm from there. You never know

21:53

who love you, who hate you? You know what I'm saying. So

21:55

it's like I got to make sure I'm straight at all

21:57

times.

21:58

I don't take no chances that a car is

22:00

that everywhere kind of it's just Chicago morning.

22:03

I mean everywhere, a lot

22:05

of rappers. You know what I'm saying. Go back home and

22:07

feel like that.

22:08

You feel me especially, you know that paranoia

22:11

not you know, you gotta always be on point

22:13

anyway. Because you're an artist. Everybody know you gotta

22:15

like you showing love. You don't know if they live real

22:18

or not. You just gotta always be on your square

22:20

all times, you know what I'm saying. You know what's crazy

22:22

about That's what I feel like being in Chicago

22:24

because I don't know who was who? You

22:26

know what's crazy about Chicago. I

22:29

remember at one.

22:30

Point I used to go to queens Bridge, right, and

22:32

it's to be A and R's just hanging out in queens Bridge.

22:34

They didn't know they was in the most drug infested

22:36

places in the world. They're just sitting there

22:38

trying to find another nos and they're sitting there

22:40

trying to find another mob deep. It's so

22:43

many people that go to the coast side

22:45

rack trying to find another version of y'all,

22:47

and they putting themself at harm's.

22:48

Way, and sometimes they got to do that though they take

22:50

that risk. I ain't gonna lie.

22:51

That's why you got a shout out to Mickey Houston. Bro. That

22:53

was that when I first started rapping.

22:56

That was my that was my manager at

22:58

the time. Heat when I first met him, Bro,

23:00

I was what sixteen

23:03

seventeen years old, probably no I

23:05

was fifteen, like fifteen sixteen, and

23:08

I always been bad with phones. You see

23:10

how I just pulled up my phone all cracked up,

23:12

and shit, I've been like that and I always

23:14

lose phones like so, and I

23:17

know numbers about herd I promise you I know everybody

23:19

knowing that be with me about heart and shit. So

23:21

I used to like not have a phone and not really

23:23

get no fuck, just be standing on the block posted

23:25

up all day because shit, that's what

23:28

everybody outside anyway, if I

23:30

could get in.

23:31

Touch with whoever. But he really used

23:33

to pull up looking for me on my block.

23:35

I'm fifteen years old, with his family,

23:37

got his kids, his wife and the cars, kids

23:40

like two three years old. He pulling up

23:42

like what heard? You feel what I'm saying because he was

23:44

trying to be my manager, and shit, you

23:46

feel what I'm saying.

23:47

And that made me gravitate to him.

23:49

I'm like, damn, this nigga really pulling up right here

23:51

with his fans dangers and the dangerous

23:53

reds on Save Life and pulling

23:55

up four five times like straight,

23:58

like come on, show y'all fuck with you, Like

24:00

damn, He's silent for that with his

24:02

family though, like he's coming from church doing this

24:04

too.

24:05

But it's a little crazy. But

24:08

how was it working with Juice world?

24:10

Man? Juice was he was like a if

24:14

you could describe it, it's like one of them, like

24:17

one of the billion phenomenons.

24:20

Like when you see him, I ain't even I'm not even being

24:22

funny like when you when we first ever

24:24

met Juice, and we just used to see

24:26

his recording process alone, like how

24:29

he used to get in the studio and make

24:32

like six songs in a

24:34

role. But damness,

24:36

like he then made twelve thirteen songs

24:38

because for each song he doing two three covers

24:41

with different patterns, Like he's not saying

24:43

the same shit now hesing the same hook.

24:46

He doing this for like fast

24:48

six songs straights, but making two three covers

24:50

and the first shit he's

24:52

saying so hard. Were not wanting him to erace

24:55

it, were like, what the fuck he's racing it? Afterwards

24:57

he yeah, he ain't even no more.

25:00

He's not statching no version.

25:03

He's just using the one he wanted to use.

25:05

We like, man, like it was some

25:07

crazy shit. We never seen nothing like that, man.

25:09

And it's as just like I was.

25:11

Really in love with the craft like the art

25:13

of it.

25:13

You feel what I'm saying. And it

25:16

was weird working with him like at first, and

25:18

like because he was

25:20

like his ship. He he he's such

25:23

a natural red talent. And that was

25:25

back when I was there and still writing versus a

25:28

long time, like I'll be off.

25:29

The top now I look like okay, I heard.

25:35

Yeah, But that was like when I was really

25:37

still ranking on the phone and he used to go

25:39

so like quick

25:42

freestyling so and that shit was so hard.

25:44

I'm like, it's taking me a long time and like

25:46

you feel me? Like I felt like I

25:48

couldn't really like vab like that. But he

25:50

one of the reasons why I stopped writing a little

25:52

bit, Like I just used to like go off the vab

25:55

with him here and make you do ten fifteen

25:57

songs like you feel what I'm saying because I'm

26:00

looking at it like I ain't gonna lie. It was crazy

26:02

now I'm looking back at it and now that little bro dead,

26:04

Like I

26:07

wasn't really realizing like how much he really

26:09

looked up to me. You feel what I'm saying, like like

26:12

on a like him being a fan of my music.

26:14

I'm so a fan of his shit because I've

26:16

never seen nothing like him before, and he's so

26:18

big, but he's just such a genuine person. He

26:21

not even really realizing how big

26:23

he is for real, for he happy

26:26

to just be doing what he's doing. You feel what I'm

26:28

saying, Like he trying to do songs with me because he thinking

26:30

he's stacking up fifteen g herbro versus.

26:32

And I'm telling him, like, Surety, you the biggest

26:35

shit in the world, Like I'm not finna be rapping

26:37

on all these songs because all he's not even gonna

26:39

come out, Bro, you pop star shit, we

26:41

might drop one of these for my al one of these

26:44

for yours for real. But I feel like he was

26:46

challenging me to be better too, like you

26:48

feel me. But I'm not even looking at it like that, you

26:51

know, like it was just that nigga he

26:53

when I look back at it, like that's

26:56

like I never seen nobody like that, you feel

26:58

me, Like, and I didn't heard that shit from like

27:00

Pluto, from Thug, like from

27:02

motherfucker that like them really the goats

27:04

of this shit, you know what I'm saying, Like that really

27:06

didn't locked in with Bro and seeing his

27:09

recording process and feeling like that's some shit

27:11

they ain't ever seen before. The

27:13

lass was different.

27:14

Do you think Juice world saw how big

27:16

he was prior to him passing.

27:20

I mean yeah, I feel like yeah, and

27:22

then no

27:24

one away could just knowing him, he's so humble,

27:27

like he wasn't really like you feel he was just in

27:29

love with the art of him music

27:31

and he knowing he's big as fuck. Of course he

27:34

knowing, but it's like, I

27:36

don't even I think he was having so much fun with

27:38

it. He wasn't even flying on

27:40

how big he could go, Like I feel me,

27:42

he wasn't even like on some as

27:45

far as like just embracing

27:49

it, like that's the thing. That's what I mean. I feel like he would

27:51

have been ten times bigger if he just embraced

27:53

how big he was. You feel him just

27:55

being such a real pure

27:58

soul. He ain't even like popping it. We used

28:00

to tell them, like pop it, shorty, like get

28:02

out here ship on niggas, Like that

28:04

was never his thing, Like we've been telling

28:06

him to do that, like boy shit on niggas. Well.

28:09

You the one, you feel me like, act

28:11

like you the one he never was on that

28:13

you feel me, That's what I mean great,

28:16

I'm bouncing around on a little bit. I'm

28:18

bouncing around little right.

28:20

This is something that I always wanted to ask people from

28:22

Chicago.

28:23

Right.

28:24

They said that there was a plot to kind

28:26

of like get rid of all the ogs,

28:29

like you know, the Larry.

28:31

Hoovers, right, Like,

28:34

Yeah, I used to hear about that ship.

28:36

And that's how the city became

28:38

wild, like it is you think that's true?

28:40

I believe shit if it's

28:43

like, I ain't gonna say I'm like a conspiracy

28:46

theorist like belief type of nigga, but like

28:48

once I hear like how they break

28:50

it down and ship, Yeah, I do believe that she was true

28:53

because it's not no coincidence how

28:55

shit happened and don't happen you feel, I'm saying,

28:57

like, no matter regardless, I can't. I'm

29:00

I'm twenty eight, so I can't really say what really

29:02

really happened in the past. But as far

29:04

as it when me knowing

29:06

when I grew up and being no guidance

29:09

out here for real, it wasn't like you feel, I'm saying.

29:11

You even had people who was like and

29:14

that's crazy you said that. Because I was having a conversation

29:16

with one of my homies not too long ago, Like

29:20

like even in certain neighborshoods, people was really

29:22

even scared to even feel like, all right, I got authority,

29:25

like I'm finna try to tell these little shorties

29:27

what to do or not be out here or don't you know what I'm

29:29

saying, because they scared to get on some kingp

29:31

and shit they thinking the fuck going grabbing them

29:34

just being having like the

29:36

ability to tell people what to do or

29:38

orchestra even if it is some positive

29:41

outcome, like like these might

29:43

be a neighborhood full

29:45

of street niggas who got criminal

29:48

charges or whatever, but one person come

29:50

and be like, all right, I'm finis straightening this shit up. They

29:53

might really look at them like they own some chief

29:55

type shit. You feel me, And they ain't doing nothing but trying

29:58

to make the shit better. You feel me like I was having

30:00

a conversation with my homie like and that's

30:02

basically touching on the same point you just mad.

30:04

Remember it's not a conspiracy Moore cointil pro

30:06

It has been proven that that's the real thing that the FBI

30:08

was doing back then, exactly depending

30:10

on what you think the intention was.

30:12

But they was really doing that and they was bringing people in.

30:14

There was taking a part of these organizations from the

30:16

top, and those organizations back then

30:18

were really.

30:18

Trying to do community based things. It

30:21

wasn't really street shit back exactly. Like like my brother,

30:25

he's Latino. But when COMPETI

30:27

Green was up, you know, I wanted to go to COMPETI

30:29

Green. This is a good time projects, funny dude. I was like,

30:31

Yo, I gotta go. I got like, this is this restaurant

30:34

called Sammy's. You know, it's fried

30:36

chicken, spies, It's nothing crazy, but I had to go. My

30:39

brother got you know, the coat sign

30:42

and when I got there, I felt the most safest

30:44

I ever felt in my life. It was I felt like everyone

30:46

was just around just like yo, Norway's here, like

30:48

you know what I mean. And the police came searched

30:50

me and Ship, the whole neighborhood was with me, like

30:53

yo, get leaning over alone.

30:54

I was like, oh Ship. That was in the nineties

30:56

though, yeah, exact thing about Chicago though, like

30:59

people you were feel that type of love, you know

31:01

what I'm saying, and like that being

31:03

a project. I ain't from no project

31:05

building, but back then when projects was up, like everybody

31:08

knew everybody. So basically in

31:11

the project, it's probably eighty sixty

31:13

percent of the ass all related families

31:16

and shit, staying all through this shit. So you

31:18

feel me, you would get that type of vibe. Somebody funck

31:20

with you. They gonna definitely make sure you straight. I'm sure

31:22

you probably felt some real

31:24

love because I didn't been to New York and felt

31:27

like that, Like young nigga like eighteen years

31:29

old, and I'm going outside and I'm really feeling like,

31:31

oh, I'm posting up in New York for two

31:33

hours, three hours, I'm all through all types

31:36

of boroughs. You feel what I'm saying, like, you don't really feel

31:38

like that, and when you go to the hood and just embrace

31:41

it, you feel me Like, Now.

31:43

Let's talk about ptsd D.

31:45

I know we were talking about juice word earlier, but that's

31:48

about.

31:48

You think you have PTSD. Yeah,

31:51

what is that? Post traumatic post stress disorder?

31:53

Yeah, I got diagnosed with it. Really, that's

31:56

the ship that motherfuckers in Wall get right, Yeah,

31:59

but you can get what. Yeah,

32:01

I had. That was was I was going to therapy

32:03

though. That was when I first started going to therapy. Therapy,

32:06

so age, but continue, Yeah,

32:09

I started going to therapy prob

32:11

what year that was two thousand

32:14

and nineteen, twenty eighteen,

32:16

and just talking to my therapist, she

32:19

diagnosed me with post roumatic stress disorder

32:21

because I was really I I was fighting

32:23

the case at the time though, Like I had

32:26

got arrested in twenty eighteen when my

32:28

son was born. Y'all got arrested for some

32:30

gun in Chicago. That's

32:33

when I was living in Chicago. I feel me right

32:35

before I moved to LA and

32:39

I was really

32:41

just you know me

32:43

living out there. I ain't had no security, you feel what

32:45

I'm saying. And I was even

32:48

in that situation, like I said, accountability.

32:50

I'm talking to my therapist like I ain't never really

32:52

feel safe leaving out my house as I was fourteen,

32:55

fifteen years old. You feel what I'm saying, Wow,

32:57

And we haven't.

32:58

I was.

32:59

I was with with

33:02

with south Side when it happened that situation

33:04

when I got arrested for the guns.

33:06

You feel me, Like Bro was already

33:08

a millionaire. He had security with him. You

33:10

feel what I'm saying. They was able to get his security

33:13

guard. Cello was on the case. He did

33:15

that, guys, So that was his security

33:17

guard who we paid staff. You feel what I'm saying. I'm

33:20

living in Chicago, I wasn't able to have no

33:22

security guard, So me carrying the

33:24

firearm, I was, you know what I'm saying, basically

33:27

just telling my therapist. I'm telling

33:29

the same shit with the lawyer on fire the case. But

33:31

I was able to get off on that well

33:34

misdemeanor. You feel what I'm saying. But at

33:36

the end of the day, I really like

33:38

I didn't even know what they're like, the

33:41

therapy, the whole situation to me going like

33:44

it was me taking a chance. You feel what I'm saying.

33:46

I was, I ain't really open up

33:48

to like nobody in my life. You

33:50

did it on your own. You chose to go to therapy on your own.

33:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

33:53

It was really like it wasn't no court stipulation.

33:55

Nothing like that. I was talking to my lawyer and my

33:58

lawyer like kind of insistent

34:00

on me going, and I just took the chance and just

34:02

really went on my own. You feel me. But like I said,

34:04

like taking that leadership role

34:08

early on, it just I don't really

34:10

I feel like me complaining about my

34:12

situation and what I got going on to the people

34:15

around that that's really depending on me. It's

34:17

like, that's not really you know what I'm saying,

34:20

That's that's the I feel like that's the that's

34:25

that's what's what's really wrong, like with

34:28

for lack of a burn term with it, I'm trying to say, like

34:30

that the stipulation that that they

34:32

that they put on black men growing up, just not

34:35

being able to open up people

34:38

around you and your family, open up to

34:40

your mother, open up to your girl, to

34:42

whoever. You can't

34:44

do that, take it on, you know what I'm saying. So it's

34:47

like it ain't nobody referring therapy. So

34:49

it's like I was

34:51

really I I didn't even feel

34:54

like it was going to be helpful at first, to be

34:56

honest, you know what I'm saying. When I first started going. But

34:58

it was though, like life, just me

35:00

just talking to to her about everything

35:03

I grew up, like experiencing and

35:05

everything that I was going through as a man at that time.

35:07

And she just went on her own and

35:09

and diagnosed me with postramatic

35:11

stress disorder and actually sent it to the

35:14

courts when I was fighting the case at the time.

35:16

And that's how I was able to really get get

35:19

off on the whole situation and get

35:21

and get it down to a to a

35:24

misdemeanor. Basically, what do they give you for

35:26

that? Yeah, I had,

35:29

I got diagnosed, I got the medical card

35:31

they gave me. Yeah, yeah

35:40

that's fire. Yeah, I

35:43

got my car legally. Yeah, that's how I was able to get

35:45

it through having postramatic stressed disorder,

35:48

you know. But and it's like, man,

35:51

really, that's why I had I named

35:53

my album PTSD because it all happened

35:56

around the same time, and that's why I put all

35:58

those people that I had lost on my cover,

36:01

like it was over fifty people on the fifty

36:03

dead faces. You feel what I'm saying because I'm

36:05

talking about all this and therapy. You feel

36:07

what I'm saying, like everything I experience, and

36:09

it's like just the reality of a nigga

36:11

experiencing seeing so much depth. But you

36:14

were able to just act normal all day, navigate

36:16

through your life like ain't nothing going on. You're still

36:18

going to school and it's still going to work, and they're still

36:21

providing for their family, taking care of their kids.

36:23

But all it's still on your mind every day. And

36:26

if we don't really talk about it, it's like you

36:28

got to find a way to like compartmentalize

36:33

with all of that. You feel me, you can't really hold it in

36:35

and still think you're going to have a level playing

36:37

field when you're dealing with life.

36:39

You're going to always be on a roller coaster,

36:41

you feel what I'm.

36:42

Saying because and on that yeah, is

36:44

because most times were you really able to release

36:46

and be yourself, you around the people that you're

36:49

most comfortable with and them people you love. So

36:51

you probably exploding on your woman, exploding

36:54

on your kids, or you know what I'm saying, on

36:56

your mom, whoever the case may be. You feel me

36:58

so like because you

37:00

or you really like hold

37:03

it in where you just go to make a decision

37:06

that you can't in and shit come back from for the rest

37:08

of your life. That's how nigga wind up getting killed,

37:10

Nigga wind up going to jail because

37:12

you wearing this shit on your shoulder and then you snap

37:15

what a ten second decision costs you

37:17

the rest of your life, you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's

37:19

why I started to like open up about

37:21

therapy and name my album PTSD

37:24

and just openly just wear that shit because

37:26

I felt like that was the time of my life when I was most

37:28

vulnerable.

37:28

So I was just rapping about was

37:31

any soldiers offended by that, because like I

37:33

guess that's the most of the people who get

37:35

diagnosed with that.

37:38

No, because I really I did, really

37:40

get clinically diagnosed. So I'm opening up

37:42

about therapy. You feel what I'm saying. And I was

37:44

like, I wasn't saying I was like first

37:47

hearing like paying hamage to the soldiers, But I was talking

37:49

about like how people who live

37:52

regular everyday last suffer

37:54

from the same you know what I'm saying, diagnosis

37:57

that somebody who go to war who signed

38:00

up you know what I'm saying, not saying that

38:02

they work is unnoticed. Of course. The people

38:04

put their life on the line every day, on the on the scale

38:07

that we couldn't even imagine, you

38:09

feel, and everybody's different. At the end of the day,

38:11

it's people who live every day life that didn't

38:14

sign up for that. At the end of the day, it is

38:16

what it is. Post Man stresses saw its

38:18

post Man stresses sort, no matter how you put it.

38:20

And it depends on like people get it in car accident.

38:22

People have a car exactly. They get like it

38:25

was just you guys, yeah,

38:28

domestic abutiy and they get that ship one

38:30

robbed one time.

38:31

People. They get posted like.

38:34

Its really having like

38:36

certain situations that you've been through that that triggered

38:39

you on on a day

38:41

to day basis. So it might be one thing that

38:43

happened ten years ago, but it's like every

38:45

time you get in the car, like you said, you're

38:47

thinking about the situation. Every time

38:49

you're on the bus stop, you're thinking about the situation because

38:52

something happened on the bus stop. Right. Let

38:55

me ask you, how did you become as

38:57

wise?

38:57

Like, because I know we touched on the

38:59

fact that you're twenty eight, but your

39:02

brain is not twenty eight like

39:05

you you advanced and this shit

39:07

Like I sit here like almost

39:10

like I'm talking to my pair, like I know you younger than

39:12

me, but your brain ain't

39:14

telling me that.

39:14

At all, Like how'd you get that? Wise? Man?

39:18

I think I just really to be

39:20

honest, i'mna be completely hungry with you. Man.

39:22

I've just been outside for a long time, really,

39:25

just since I was

39:27

probably twelve thirteen years old. I've

39:29

been hang on my big brother, he older, he five

39:32

years older than me and just you.

39:33

Know, just for five

39:36

years older than he's thirty three. Yeah,

39:38

okay, which means that he forty three, right,

39:41

basically cool.

39:43

Yeah, Wise, It's

39:45

like I've just been always

39:48

and I don't really got nothing to do with like how I think,

39:50

of course, but like I

39:53

think, I just I looked up to him and

39:56

already hear like some type of structure

39:58

just being my own own man. You

40:00

feel what I'm saying it And while I grew

40:03

up at it is like you gotta I ain't even being

40:05

I ain't even lying, bro.

40:06

Like you've done it, even if you're not in the

40:08

streets.

40:08

You gotta dan that be wise or you gotta

40:11

like be a little It's

40:13

like you gotta be a little witty in

40:16

some type of way growing up while

40:18

I came up, you feel what I'm saying, because everybody

40:20

like out for something, everybody

40:22

wants something about you. You feel what I'm saying. So

40:25

when I'm fifteen, sixteen years old and

40:27

I'm trying to rap in at the end of

40:29

the day, my name, I'm buzzing, I'm

40:32

really in my neighborhood, I'm having

40:34

all types of street shit going on. You feel

40:36

me. So it's like I gotta be twice

40:38

as sharp, Like I really want hanging over people

40:40

my age. I was hanging with people older than me. I'm thirteen,

40:43

I'm hanging around eighteen, nineteen,

40:45

twenty, sometimes twenty five years. You feel

40:47

what I'm saying, and I gotta

40:49

you know, I'm gonna get a lot of credit to my pops. Two

40:51

though my dad put a lot of a lot of structure

40:54

in me growing up. You feel me. But when

40:57

when I was outside in the streets, I was on my own,

40:59

though, you feel You're like I

41:01

just had to take what he gave me and try to

41:03

use that to navigate. You feel me, But I

41:06

don't know. It was just experienced a lot of life.

41:08

I've been through a lot of shit early on and just

41:11

like took it for what it is, Like you

41:13

know, I think that's why, like going back to the

41:15

therapy that shit helped me, because like the

41:17

shit was so normal where I come from.

41:19

Like you can't really complain about

41:22

I feel like I said that before,

41:24

and I don't want to sound like crazy or like bias

41:27

or nothing. Like I feel like a nigga like me, I

41:30

feel like I can't even complain about my situation

41:33

or whatever I go through because I didn't seen

41:35

and experience much worse in

41:38

the hood where I come from. Like you think your situation

41:41

bad and you look at one of your homies like, damn,

41:43

he got it worse, way worse. Well,

41:45

this nigga got it ten times worse than me, Like

41:48

it make you just over grateful. Like that's how

41:50

I had that mentality when I was younger, because I'm

41:52

seeing shit like you know, I didn't

41:54

been in the trenches. What shit is so

41:56

fucked up? Like nigga's growing up even

41:59

worse than I'm seeing. So it's like, damn,

42:02

I always had a reason to just be like, my

42:04

sh it ain't so bad. You feel me, even if the worst

42:06

of the worst situations you feel me.

42:08

I want you to enjoy a little more, man enjoy

42:11

it because I got I got a friend I don't want

42:13

to say his name. We hang out right,

42:16

and then we don't even want to take

42:18

pictures because

42:21

we got survivors re morese. We're

42:23

just sitting around thinking like a once we

42:25

take a picture, there's gonna be people hating

42:27

bro, and that's like fucked up.

42:30

Like our wives were looking at each other like yo, some suckers,

42:35

like we out like three days a week

42:37

and like y'ah no, we're we're over

42:39

here.

42:39

We don't want to take this picture.

42:41

Like fuck that I gotta I

42:45

got a real album calls.

42:47

That's what I said. That that's what But

42:53

I know I'm knowing. But it's like the ship that's

42:56

like second nature though you feel me. I don't even think Nigga

42:58

intentionally really beat. It's like like

43:01

you said, like in the beginning of the interview,

43:03

like you ask your phone so much sometimes

43:06

you just don't even want to deal with the energy of

43:08

certain ship that's just not even changed my dad

43:10

or more you feel me all the time,

43:13

never changed, man, I say that ship all the time,

43:15

I be wanting to change my number. But then it's like I be

43:17

thinking, like I know, what

43:20

if somebody really Nigga

43:25

really be feeling like that this real ship? How much?

43:27

How much you think fatherhood has helped

43:29

you mature as well?

43:31

One hundred percent? I feel like fatherhood

43:34

is if it won't for me really having

43:36

my first kid, I would, like, I know,

43:38

I wouldn't have really like grew up and

43:41

just like been on some ship where like

43:43

I know, like what having a kid teach

43:46

you is your first and

43:48

foremost, like your main responsibility. Owe

43:50

everything to them. So you got to make

43:53

decisions knowing that are you owe everything

43:55

to your kids because what happens to you happened today

43:57

exactly. So before you had kids, you feel

44:00

like you owe something to the mother fucker. But when

44:02

you really have kids, you're like, oh no, I really don't own

44:04

nobody shit. I own my kids everything.

44:07

So you know, like that just like

44:10

changed my whole way of thinking when I had

44:12

children. You know what I'm saying, It's like and then like

44:15

no, funny shit, people always ask me, like what's

44:17

my like like most

44:20

places of comfort or happiest place, like no

44:22

matter what I'm going through, when I'm around my kids,

44:24

I could literally just zone out and not think

44:26

about nothing, like no matter what,

44:29

like five regardless, Like I don't feel like I

44:31

had no other vice like studio

44:34

all that should be therapeutic. Q, Like

44:36

you know, I love what I do, but like my purest

44:38

place is just like no matter what, I could be like

44:41

the most depressed ever and be in the

44:43

room my kids and then that shit just literally

44:45

go away, you know what I'm saying. So like even

44:48

if it's for the time being to being around my kids.

44:50

And then when that's old, I snapped back right in

44:53

reality, like I feel like that's the purest

44:55

form of love.

44:56

You knowe what I'm saying here people exactly so

44:58

like and then it's.

45:00

Like another thing is too that should be tweaking

45:02

me out, like no matter what, Like

45:05

I'm learning my older you know, you know son,

45:07

he fat you can be six years old, like he

45:10

know what's going on. But at the end of the day, your

45:12

kids don't really know, Like they

45:15

don't know who I am, what I know, They don't think.

45:17

You don't talk about none of that. They

45:19

don't know. I still think I'm corny with

45:21

my kids. You always doing it

45:23

for like like like like the

45:26

last thing I watching

45:29

my son, I watched Ted. I know that's inappropriate.

45:33

No, No, youngest, we

45:35

watched Ted the series. You've seen that ship on peac racist?

45:40

Very racist? What is hilarious? Yeah,

45:42

he has a series. Yeah

45:45

you think for me on dead Boy,

45:47

I ain't never see that ship into My son watched that. He

45:49

ain't supposed to be watching that. No, No, I ain't gonna

45:51

lie I'm a bad father. Let

45:55

me tur that out there. Don't say you're

45:57

not a bad father, but in.

45:58

This situation is like that cause

46:00

I watched it, and now I start to realize he's

46:03

asking me to watch it because he wants

46:05

to watch it.

46:06

Right, So I'm looking at and then my.

46:08

Wife's getting her hair done, I'm getting a

46:11

haircut.

46:12

And everybody in the house is just looking like, oh my god.

46:15

And I'm sitting there with my son, and I looked.

46:16

I'm like, damn, I'm kind of he

46:19

just made that point over. But that's what I'm saying. I'm

46:21

saying that to say, like your kids don't really

46:23

know like who Like my son.

46:25

He wanting to do the most random ship, and

46:27

I gotta do it, like like

46:30

wherever we at, he want to go to, whatever target,

46:32

he want to go out to, the closest

46:35

jumpy house, the nearest arcade, just random

46:37

ship for the moment. How you

46:40

failures, old, Okay, I'll be having to go

46:42

do that ship, no matter if there's a million

46:44

fans in there at all.

46:46

I just go do it because that's what he wanted to do.

46:48

Like he not thinking about that ship and he not

46:50

knowing like you feel me. So that's what I'm

46:52

saying. Your kids, How you how you're doing the most

46:54

random shit, like fuck it, Like just say fuck

46:56

it. I always do that with one kid, Like fucking

46:59

you're going he got the fatherhood park has.

47:02

Let's make too much for your father.

47:08

Let's do it.

47:08

He don't do nothing. He don't leave the house for ship

47:11

at.

47:12

All, all kinds of ship.

47:14

Yeah, right now you're having

47:16

active and ship with my kids.

47:18

Why they're too busy? Fuck

47:20

the whole crib up.

47:21

You gotta leave up. How many kids you have? Three? Three?

47:24

What's the age one?

47:25

Oh, it's

47:32

fourteen. They going through puberty. I gotta have the

47:34

birds and the bees. I don't know if they already had the birds

47:37

and bees.

47:37

I don't know.

47:38

Like I'm scared. I'm scared of like

47:40

they damn there the homies and ship may

47:44

be telling me let's go to. I

47:48

know why they want to go to. I'm

47:52

alright, got that man, All right, listen, So we got

47:54

a game.

47:56

Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, you handle

47:58

it. Handle that we

48:00

wanted.

48:01

We want to let you know how much we appreciate you, how

48:03

much you are a legend, how much love

48:05

and hip hop you got is you know That's

48:08

one thing I do when I interview a guest,

48:10

I call.

48:11

I just call.

48:11

Everybody, and everybody, Yo, I kid you

48:14

not you wanted like the third guests

48:18

maybe you look you're up, you're up there

48:20

like that. Nobody had nothing.

48:22

Bad to say. I was like,

48:24

that's fucking fire. You know what

48:26

I'm saying. Like everybody was like, yo, man, it's a stand

48:29

up dude. It's a good dude. You know

48:31

what I mean.

48:32

And so our show is about giving

48:34

people they flowers. So we want to give you

48:36

your mother.

48:38

Yeah, it's

48:44

like a Grammy because it's coming from your people. This

48:46

is your people, man, this is your house. I

48:50

want you to know. I

48:52

want you to know that. Before we get to QuickTime

48:56

of Slim, I want to. I

48:58

want to. I want to say something and just I want you to tell

49:01

me. What do you hear?

49:03

Uh when

49:06

I say this? When I say that, okay you

49:08

ready? Yeah, humble

49:11

beast, Well,

49:13

I think hunger. Hunger,

49:16

Yeah, hunger

49:19

immediately more than one?

49:22

More than one? Like what more than one? Whatever?

49:25

Humble beasts? I think hunger. Man think

49:28

uh uh?

49:30

Dedication, I think I think gold

49:33

oriented. I was

49:35

on a mission gold Yeah,

49:39

gold oriented for sure. I

49:43

figured I had I think of having

49:45

a point of prove I had

49:47

something approval to myself, I felt like at

49:49

that time and like to the industry, you know

49:52

that being my like debut

49:54

album, like on some ship. Okay, still

49:57

swerving, still swerving, consistency

50:04

like uh, I

50:08

think, uh.

50:10

Living life, having fun, I

50:15

think uh.

50:18

Ship. Uh, I

50:21

think I God damnit swerving

50:24

on Bro swerving

50:27

and what I think? Uh? I

50:31

think of a ship gratefulness

50:33

on Bro, being grateful right out of town Bro

50:36

okay, PTSD, PTSD.

50:40

I think of Chicago. I

50:45

think of hustling.

50:52

I think of ship, savage

50:55

life. I think of death

50:58

mm hmmm, mm hmm. Ship.

51:03

I think a grieving pain,

51:07

anger and

51:11

ship. I think of vulnerability

51:15

and awareness twenty

51:19

five, twenty five, I

51:21

think survivals

51:25

of morse. I think of grief. I can't

51:28

say that gratefulness. That's my next question,

51:31

Bro, I'm gonna I'm gonna

51:33

go into I'm

51:35

gonna go into that with that you're

51:38

doing my interview. That

51:41

was but for

51:43

twenty five, I think I think of gratefulness

51:45

too though. Okay, I think of gratefulness.

51:48

I think of life. I think of celebration,

51:53

I think of grief. M

51:55

hmmm. And

51:59

I think I think

52:02

of victory and

52:05

now survivors of Mars, survivors

52:08

of Morse. I think of sorrow, anger

52:12

again. I

52:14

think of confusion. I

52:20

think uh, I

52:26

think the resentfulness. I

52:32

don't know if I said pain, well, I think of pain

52:34

again. The reason, the

52:38

reason why I had was, like I had said, survivors

52:41

of Morese when I said the two five

52:43

was because like turning twenty

52:45

five was like like

52:49

the whole time,

52:52

like period of me just where I was as

52:54

an artist, as a man everywhere, just

52:56

like actually being grateful

52:58

to turn twenty five at such a young age.

53:01

It's really crazy as fuck,

53:03

you know what I'm saying. And now that I'm

53:05

twenty eight, f goin to be thirty. You feel me. It's

53:08

still being young, but you just be grateful for

53:10

the me is cause niggas really don't get

53:12

that far where I come from, a lot of my homies

53:14

didn't get to see eighteen twenty one, you

53:17

know, So being turned at twenty five

53:19

like and that was one of my last birthdays

53:21

that I turned with my little brother,

53:24

you feel me. My

53:26

little brother, uh he died

53:29

seven days before it's twenty fifth birthday. Got

53:31

like you two plus five and seven, Like

53:34

the whole reason why I was like putting

53:36

that whole album two five together. You feel

53:38

what I'm saying, It was just like it was a different

53:40

like just time or you know, like

53:43

they'll let you know, like well, well

53:45

we all mentally, not just me, like everybody

53:47

around, everybody I ever know knew

53:49

growing up, Like it was like, of course everybody

53:52

excited to see their twenty fifth birthday, but

53:54

while I come from, we feel like it's a mouthstone

53:57

even be alive at twenty five, not to actually

53:59

enjoy twenty fifth birthday, and on you

54:01

feel me, Nigga, just happy to be here.

54:03

You lost so much, you feel me, So it's like looking

54:06

back at that, I feel like shit,

54:08

I feel like I wish, you

54:11

know, Nigga would have like celebrated

54:14

like more. You feel me with that

54:16

being like my last birthday even with you

54:18

know, because I had a ball, Like you feel what

54:20

I'm saying, But I'm just saying like not even

54:22

not even like what I mean. It's like on

54:25

some just like fastest,

54:28

like not even my whole twenty fifth

54:30

birthday was around the fact that just

54:34

being grateful to be alive, you feel me and

54:36

my the brother they didn't even see

54:38

his twenty fifth birthday, so that it was like it

54:41

was like a weird feeling for me. You know, God

54:43

bless bro.

54:47

But Nigga just that's why i'd be having

54:49

that. Master, Nigga, just be grateful for shitting

54:52

right, be

54:55

grateful, quick Time and slob. You want to explain to him

54:57

the rules.

54:57

Yeah, we're gonna give you two choices. Pick

55:00

one and we're

55:02

not drinking quick time or slim. Yeah, two

55:05

choices. You get two choices. There's a list of things. These

55:07

guys over here came up with this list, So don't blame

55:09

us, Columbian and the Dominican. Right, so

55:12

you get two choices. You picked nobody together.

55:14

If you say both, like you say

55:17

both of them, what do quick time or what?

55:20

That's just the name of the game.

55:22

Drinking game.

55:23

Yeah, you're picking something. But if you if you say both,

55:25

are neither we drinking. All of us are drinking. Okay,

55:29

but if you pick nobody drinking, If you pick something,

55:31

nobody drink. But if you don't pick

55:33

basically we drinking. Remember this, Are

55:36

you ready and go light with the shots

55:38

because it's a long game.

55:39

Yeah, yeah, you go light with the shots. Okay,

55:42

you ready?

55:43

This is your shot Towns is

55:45

going to suck you up right now you're ready, let us

55:47

do it, Chief Keith

55:49

or Little Dirk.

55:56

So okay,

55:58

Chief right, Tupac or DMX

56:04

Tupac ok Drake

56:08

or Lula, Wayne Wayne

56:12

Nas or jadakiss kiss.

56:16

You guys have to say about that.

56:19

Right if you want to elaborate, tell the story anything

56:21

but Jada Kiss Okay.

56:24

Kanye West or no I D obviously

56:26

produce.

56:27

It and obviously both Chicago,

56:31

I'm gonna go.

56:31

No I D. As you

56:33

know, Big Bro, he was one of the first that ever really

56:35

embraced me to though, really like O I D. I

56:38

got, I got, like I got

56:40

placements, like songs with no ID when I'm

56:42

like sixteen years old, when I first started rapping,

56:45

Like when you work with Common, Who's yeah

56:47

exactly? That was that

56:49

was the whole play. No I D put that whole play

56:51

together with Common. You feund and Big

56:54

Bro always just been like a mentor

56:56

for me, Like I know, if there's anything I really need

56:58

to like get off, if I

57:00

ever need to come here for any advice, it's just a

57:02

phone call fee. That's fine. That's a big

57:04

dog too, a shout to be. He always

57:07

showed me love from the beginning. Since they want

57:10

juice World or P M. B Rock.

57:13

That's the piece and I could do

57:15

both. It's called

57:17

the ticket both.

57:18

Let's take both of my brother. I've been feeding

57:20

him, take a shot. Let's do it. But

57:24

I wanted you to go with the right choices.

57:31

The next

57:34

even we're

57:38

back.

57:43

Hey, man, I don't know if I can say it.

57:45

But I don't want to take my brother P and

57:47

B anyway, I got to take that.

57:49

Yes, future

57:52

twenty one savage. Uh,

57:55

we take a shot, you know, take a.

57:57

Shot, brother Brodian

57:59

Right, Yeah, don't choose, don't

58:02

don't choose side.

58:03

That's a two headed go.

58:05

Yeah, ice gub that

58:08

motherfucker. I've been holding this one.

58:10

Want to shut chilling Common

58:12

or lupid fiasco Common,

58:18

it's South side of Metro booming Well,

58:21

taking a shot on Flo. That's

58:24

another two head to go. Sorry

58:27

about that drinking.

58:28

You know what he's drinking?

58:32

What was It's called mam Wana but

58:35

he's not from dominic in Republic?

58:37

What is it? It's made in the tubbing

58:40

kind he.

58:41

Make that ship up.

58:42

It's telling you, man, don't don't

58:45

start.

58:46

He's gonna ask you for a shot. Called wife

58:49

the movie should try. By

58:55

the way, the best baptob in candle.

59:00

I know it's some times breaking

59:02

it anyway, just let me take

59:05

my.

59:08

Man.

59:08

I'm sorry, so I'm so happy you came

59:11

here. Man, man, I want to get you and

59:17

your fans is crazy.

59:18

By the way, I tweeted out that got question

59:21

questions with you heard they went crazy

59:23

your fans. You got some crazy ass fans,

59:26

yeah, man, yeah,

59:29

okay podcast or radio.

59:32

Podcast, okay, dropped podcast.

59:35

Okay, Yeah,

59:39

this is good. It's a good

59:41

one.

59:43

Cat Williams or Kevin Hard, don't

59:47

take a shot. I was gonna take a shot.

59:49

I don't want no smoke. Give

59:53

us both trouble, take a shot. We

59:55

outside, we love them both shut out.

59:58

But it's entertaining. I never seen control.

1:00:03

And that's the funniest on the craziest

1:00:06

ship. It's just dope.

1:00:08

You ain't. I want to with

1:00:10

everybody getting the loan and spreading love under

1:00:14

entertainment.

1:00:15

It's entertainment. That's the name of the game, right.

1:00:17

But I'm like that other people is beefing other than rappings

1:00:19

exactly. That's hard. That's hard. This

1:00:27

is what to be damn

1:00:29

it. Okay, Luda

1:00:31

or t I take

1:00:34

a shot. Do I old shot?

1:00:35

Yeah, take a shot, take a shot, tip mm

1:00:38

hmm, okay, Rick Rosser,

1:00:40

jez.

1:00:42

Uh take a shot

1:00:44

man, Okay, take a shot for

1:00:47

Big Bro.

1:00:47

Now it's

1:00:49

going down. Okay, here

1:00:53

putting the ice in every shot, Bro Man,

1:00:55

that's ships hottest like I don't like it. That ship

1:00:57

is like Russian cheating.

1:00:58

Man's DJ

1:01:03

drama or d J Collin drama.

1:01:07

Mm hmm. Scarface or ice

1:01:09

Cube? What we say drama

1:01:12

cattle. We gotta take a shot, take a show. You take

1:01:18

a shot, said, I'm a little I'm

1:01:20

a little tipsy. I had consume.

1:01:22

The question is okay, I

1:01:25

didn't even shopping Big Bro. Now we

1:01:27

remember for another two headed girl? All

1:01:30

right?

1:01:31

Scarface of ice Cube?

1:01:33

Mm hmmm, scar Face, Boys

1:01:37

in the Hood or medicine Society, Minis

1:01:40

Society.

1:01:44

L A or Miami U

1:01:47

l A.

1:01:49

Travis Scott or Asap Rocky Travis,

1:01:54

Biggie A big Al Biggie

1:01:58

our Castle, u g K.

1:02:01

Hugk Hey,

1:02:04

who's d the come on?

1:02:05

Bro? Little g or little Wice take

1:02:09

a shot. I respect

1:02:11

that big and both of cheer

1:02:14

boy take a shot and fold up.

1:02:16

So take a nice.

1:02:21

Show.

1:02:21

What me do it's it's still hot. It's

1:02:24

like fucking taking a coffee shot. Little

1:02:29

baby or Rocky Fresh Baby,

1:02:34

little yachty, a little.

1:02:35

Oozy, take

1:02:38

a shot that

1:02:41

big Yeah, he's

1:02:45

some good ass. Questions by the way, thank

1:02:48

you Kodak

1:02:50

or Denzel Curry Kodak.

1:02:56

Last one, it's the most

1:02:58

important one, most important one loyalty

1:03:02

or respect?

1:03:07

Respect? Explain

1:03:11

because I'm built

1:03:13

off loyalty.

1:03:14

I'm a loyal person anyway you feel what I'm

1:03:16

saying that you can't really if

1:03:18

people don't really have a loyalty, you

1:03:22

can't probably instill that anything. But I'm gonna

1:03:24

make you respect me. If you don't respect me, I demand

1:03:26

respect regardless of what. You don't have to be lord

1:03:28

to me. You don't have to be whatever, but

1:03:31

you're gonna have to be respectful me because I'm

1:03:33

gonna leader respect whatever.

1:03:35

I don't have to enforce loyalty, force

1:03:38

respect, applying anybody, so respect,

1:03:41

so you would respect and respect. I

1:03:44

ain't a lie. You're not supposed to take a shot for

1:03:46

that, but I think we should. I

1:03:49

mean, that was a hard answer, Like that was

1:03:53

I was fucked up. I was like, we can take a shot for that. You

1:03:55

want to take a shot, Bro, I mean, do you want

1:03:57

to take a shot for the answer, like it's

1:04:00

deserves deserves shot. I

1:04:02

do it for myself. You say wanted

1:04:06

to take a shot. I wanted to take

1:04:08

a shot too. But that answer was.

1:04:10

Awesome, bro. Going

1:04:12

back to to no idea when you were Common?

1:04:14

Right, did you record with Common

1:04:17

in the studio?

1:04:19

No? No, have y'all linked though?

1:04:21

Yeah?

1:04:21

He yeah, ain't gonna low with comments so tough,

1:04:23

man, I was. You know, it's crazy. I

1:04:25

actually was supposed to start acting like years

1:04:27

ago. Man, But I really was just so

1:04:31

focused on rap, Like I was,

1:04:33

like, I'm a type of person, like I ain't gonna say

1:04:35

I'm stubborn, but in a way, when I'm super

1:04:37

focused on something like that malestone self

1:04:40

for myself, I just gotta do one thing like

1:04:42

I was supposed to really been in when

1:04:45

they did. Which one was he in? Was

1:04:47

comments and Barbershop three? I believe

1:04:50

I was supposed to I was supposed to have been in that, And

1:04:52

I just said in Chicago, right, Yeah, yeah,

1:04:54

I went and I went and I went and uh went

1:04:57

over my script with him. Yeah,

1:05:00

me pull up on him at his hotel.

1:05:01

I was, Yeah, I feel

1:05:04

like he smells like baby powder.

1:05:05

No, no, big Bro.

1:05:08

That was my first time. He was a nice ass,

1:05:10

nice ass sweet I forgot what hotel it was.

1:05:13

It was a minute ago. He had me pull up to him and

1:05:15

I went over my script with him for like two three

1:05:17

hours. You feel me. Big Bro always just embraced

1:05:20

me, like even on rap ship and just anything like

1:05:22

he hit me like, oh you got the they trying

1:05:24

to get a roll. I pulled up on the one

1:05:26

over the script. You feel me. He kind of wanted

1:05:28

me to do my video on syndity and right there, but

1:05:31

I was on some nervous ship. I

1:05:33

ain't doing it right then.

1:05:34

I had because it was an audition that you were doing. Basically,

1:05:37

yeah, I had over the script.

1:05:40

I ain't sending shit. I

1:05:42

ain't s I was supposed to have been in a barbershop. Three

1:05:45

damn. It would have been year role if you would have been in

1:05:47

there. I think I was

1:05:49

supposed to been. You

1:05:52

know Tarik from Power he was in there. Tarik

1:05:55

was in there. He played uh. I

1:05:57

think he was ice Cube son and Ship. I

1:06:00

was supposed to be his homeie niggas

1:06:04

in the video somewhere that

1:06:06

was game Man and one of them type of little Chicago

1:06:09

niggas, an of the niggas that was took

1:06:11

the cashiers to ATM No, this

1:06:13

was three. Oh, this is three. That's that's

1:06:15

one. I'm talking.

1:06:16

But that's dope that come and took the time to do that

1:06:18

with you that right. Yeah. And the reason I asked

1:06:20

the whole point.

1:06:21

Because it's ill like it's like Chicago

1:06:24

from this era and this era, like

1:06:26

like how's that coming together? Like y'all y'all

1:06:28

discussing the state of affairs in Chicago.

1:06:31

But really, you know he's been just always

1:06:33

like reached out and like show

1:06:36

little took a liking to me from the beginning my

1:06:38

first project, I dropped walking the Phase O Land.

1:06:41

Matter of fact, I should have mentioned that first. Really he gave

1:06:43

me the feature on I

1:06:48

on't still fucked up Me

1:06:50

and him chance to rap up Wow. We

1:06:52

it was a video we shot probably like twenty

1:06:55

fifteen, twenty fourteen or something.

1:06:57

You feel me pulled up on Big Bro in this neighborhood,

1:06:59

you know if eighty seven over there, we pulled

1:07:02

up in his neighborhood at the barbershop,

1:07:04

like you know, he used to really be coming back to Chicago showing

1:07:06

love.

1:07:07

Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's one of the first artists

1:07:09

that a lot of people heard.

1:07:10

Of face like really big

1:07:13

Boy used to really you know what I'm saying him man twister all

1:07:15

him Lord, I would say,

1:07:19

I mean it could be around the same crucial conflict.

1:07:22

No, no, this after Yeah,

1:07:24

you can come and comment.

1:07:25

When he was common sense okay, and he had the song

1:07:27

take It Easy, was one of the first common sense

1:07:29

no more no no, he just comming.

1:07:31

Yeah, his first album was common Sense No id

1:07:34

produced the whole thing.

1:07:34

Yeah, No, he definitely just wanted like one of the first artist

1:07:37

really like that.

1:07:38

I heard a lout of Chicago. I mean Twist as well for

1:07:40

sure.

1:07:41

Yeah. What's your relationship with kan Ye with

1:07:44

Yeah, you know it's okazy with his

1:07:46

new sniggers, I'm not sure.

1:07:48

I don't really, I ain't even.

1:07:49

Look at his niggas wrong, really be.

1:07:50

Pretty big on the fast.

1:07:52

I love him. That's my brother. I love it.

1:07:54

The one that fold called

1:07:57

them because

1:07:59

he don't want shoes, right, you gotta make

1:08:05

I'm really asking.

1:08:10

Inside and said

1:08:14

I was trying to see what what sucks

1:08:17

he was talking about.

1:08:18

You ain't see the nigga socks. I know

1:08:20

what's wanting to right, yeah,

1:08:22

like air parts. He called him home bro, right

1:08:24

right, I'm ready for him, like just

1:08:27

too long, Like I wanted

1:08:29

to make sure they could have

1:08:31

went on the house shoes, bab.

1:08:35

Too much, bouchal lea movies at that bro,

1:08:38

and then yeah, because let's as soon as you get back

1:08:40

to some nigga ship, I'm back. I'm gonna

1:08:42

fuck with him, like I mean, like I'm

1:08:44

backing Wise.

1:08:45

I want to wise Yeah.

1:08:49

With you.

1:08:49

Man, you got it, you got it, like I gotta

1:08:52

acting like it's me.

1:08:52

I got a different No, I got a different like just

1:08:55

like respect for you I love yeah, yeah, like

1:08:58

just off the strips for like his

1:09:01

genius for you know what I'm saying, super

1:09:03

genius. You know what I'm saying. Whoever

1:09:06

you are, here's

1:09:09

gold dude, shout

1:09:13

own. You got the whole ship going on.

1:09:15

Yeah man, Holy

1:09:17

moly, let's

1:09:23

talk about damn.

1:09:25

I got mad notes for you.

1:09:28

You got some ship from me, Mercy, Let's

1:09:30

talk about uh cry

1:09:33

no more with a little t J. She

1:09:36

said, that's my boy.

1:09:40

I never got to meet him yet, but

1:09:44

I like I like his style, like it's oral, so

1:09:48

so tell us how y'all collaborated t

1:09:51

J.

1:09:51

I've been fucking with a little bro for a little minute too, though,

1:09:54

you know little bro style that we locked in on

1:09:56

a bunch of different ways. But really

1:09:59

it was or me and me and Polo

1:10:01

did it first. Though Polo did the hook. You

1:10:03

know, we was in Chicago. That was

1:10:05

one of the times, and I really was stuck in

1:10:08

Chicago at the time. I ain't gonna lie had it

1:10:10

was a period of time where I

1:10:12

couldn't travel, Like I said when I was when

1:10:14

I got diagno supposed tomatic stress and

1:10:16

ship I cut my angle

1:10:19

breakless, nah, I went on.

1:10:21

This was before COVID everything. That's why COVID

1:10:24

was kind of easy for me.

1:10:25

I ain't gonna lie because I had like a year where

1:10:27

I couldn't travel really do

1:10:29

too many shows unless acc he

1:10:32

was just to Chicago.

1:10:34

My judge ain't let me do no traveling,

1:10:37

ankle nothing. It was like for a whole

1:10:39

year. I had to do the summer like it

1:10:42

was at least like ten months. It was on quarantine already.

1:10:44

Yeah right, it was right before quarantine

1:10:47

hits. So it's like I Danny did two quarantine,

1:10:50

so but I was in Chicago.

1:10:52

I was like locked in the studio and ship.

1:10:54

So me and Polo had did that song man

1:10:57

broke We we had when

1:10:59

me and broke in and we be doing like a lot of ship

1:11:01

back to back though, like we probably got fat

1:11:05

tend like TJ. No, I'm

1:11:07

talking about Polo Polo. So we had did a

1:11:09

hook and then I had sent the ship

1:11:11

to TJ after that, and then me

1:11:13

and TJ did it in La. You feel me like

1:11:17

that's sit like a it's like a dynamic

1:11:19

though, like Me Polo TJ. That' shit like the same

1:11:22

we get in the studio. If we get in one day, we probably

1:11:24

could do fastic songs literally right

1:11:26

off the like that type

1:11:29

of chemistry. You feel what I'm saying, Like we all

1:11:31

already familiar with working with each other. We just did

1:11:33

shit in the studio together, did shit

1:11:35

separately. I get in with them, we do three four

1:11:38

songs. I get in bro we do three you know what I'm saying,

1:11:40

Like that's just how we work. So this

1:11:42

shit just came naturally. I did

1:11:44

that And that was, like I

1:11:47

said, at the time, where I was just going through a whole bunch

1:11:49

of shit mentally, I couldn't travel. I wasn't doing on

1:11:51

shows. I was fighting the case all type

1:11:53

of shit. I just was, you know, feeling

1:11:55

like I was just I feel like it was a growth period

1:11:58

though, like one thing I learned about.

1:12:00

Like that's why I speak about it openly.

1:12:02

Like when you go through ship, like just

1:12:04

adversity overall, like all

1:12:07

that you will feel frustrated, like

1:12:09

Nigga be having a lot of stress, a lot of built

1:12:11

up ship in them, and you will feel

1:12:13

like you going

1:12:16

through the motions or whatever the case may be. But that

1:12:18

shit really just building character, like I

1:12:20

learned, like when I really go through ship,

1:12:23

sometimes I ain't trying to sound like weird,

1:12:25

a little crazy or the fucked up way, like the

1:12:28

kind of give me comfort, Like damn ship

1:12:30

a little rough, So I got it. Once you

1:12:32

figure it out, you figure it out, and it's like it's always

1:12:35

leads to elevation. So you you

1:12:37

you should lead towards that ship, you know what I'm

1:12:39

saying, like leaning towards you. What I'm saying that

1:12:41

to say, like that was like a hard ass

1:12:43

time period where I didn't really want to

1:12:45

do ship but record music. But me recording

1:12:48

music. That was the PTSD album

1:12:50

that was and

1:12:53

that was like Ship.

1:12:54

Literally that's my best album still to this day.

1:12:56

You know what I'm saying, Like all this Ship came

1:12:58

about from me really not being

1:13:01

able to travel do shows, being around

1:13:03

my piers, but niggas really just fucking me off

1:13:05

the strength they pulling up on me. You feel I'm saying when

1:13:07

I was able to go to La, TJ pulled up on me,

1:13:10

little bro Polo was using the rack he pulled

1:13:12

up on me. You feel I'm saying, I'm getting this shit done and

1:13:14

then that shit coming out like

1:13:17

still, that's probably one of my biggest songs

1:13:19

on that album too, though you feel me so let's

1:13:23

shit just be happening to naturally gang

1:13:25

I ain't. Yeah, God damn hold

1:13:28

on.

1:13:29

When you go back and you say

1:13:31

you start like around sixteen, who

1:13:34

were the inspirations that that you was

1:13:36

looking around around you, not not on the bigger

1:13:38

scale, like around you locally,

1:13:40

who was doing things that you was like, I want I want

1:13:42

to do like them?

1:13:43

Uh. I was looking up to niggas from

1:13:45

my hood though, Like that was rapping like

1:13:49

nickname react here

1:13:52

old nigga.

1:13:52

Uh My Homie Hollow was rapping.

1:13:54

Baby was rapping before me too, though, Baby

1:13:57

was like actually going paying for studio time

1:13:59

and shit, like he was like fifteen

1:14:01

years old. Baby was like head

1:14:03

yet older than me. So he was like sixteen actually

1:14:06

going to the studio where folks was

1:14:08

smart. He knew how to structure hooks and I

1:14:10

ain't know how to do ship a rap like I ain't know how

1:14:12

to put no hook verse and know what. The

1:14:15

sixteen boy was none of that type of shit.

1:14:17

You feel what I'm saying.

1:14:18

But he could tell you stories he didn't

1:14:20

know either.

1:14:21

Jesus, don't be out there you say it on time.

1:14:23

I'm saying that that inspiration Like niggas.

1:14:25

I feel like niggas didn't know how to rap never really

1:14:27

knew how to put songs together though, like never

1:14:29

really Like that's

1:14:31

the same thing. That's how I used to count bars. The

1:14:34

reason why that that song?

1:14:35

What what?

1:14:36

What? What what? What? That's how

1:14:38

they count boss? What what what? What?

1:14:40

He was counting his bars and they made

1:14:42

that a hook, bro And.

1:14:44

Then was just a genius. Yeah,

1:14:46

nigga know how to be hate. He just made I feel

1:14:48

like Bibby was a nigga that probably would have knew

1:14:51

how to do that same ship if you know what

1:14:53

I'm saying, Like Bibby knew how to you don't want to drink?

1:14:55

So y'ah could y'all

1:14:57

good? Jeez, Louise, Papa Cheez, we want you to

1:14:59

have fun too, You know what I mean? Yeah,

1:15:02

you know what I mean. But I like,

1:15:04

yeah, I feel like like when we was getting

1:15:06

the studio early, like Bibby Head he

1:15:10

was, he was like the brains when they came to

1:15:12

like putting the songs together, like kill

1:15:14

Ship right now. Still that's our biggest song

1:15:16

in this day. That was his idea. He picked the

1:15:18

beat. He the one told me go first

1:15:20

on the ship. You feel what I'm saying in the end, you know what

1:15:22

I'm like, I just used to just wrap

1:15:25

for thirty bards thirty two bards

1:15:27

straights. You feel what I'm saying. Like Bro

1:15:30

always had like destructure, so like when

1:15:32

I first like I used to listen to what Bro was

1:15:35

on Bump Jay another nigga that I

1:15:37

really was like super Bibby

1:15:39

and Slap Polaroy. You

1:15:41

feel what I'm saying. It was like that like locally that

1:15:43

was going crazy that I was like, right,

1:15:46

that really made a nigga want to rap.

1:15:48

You feel right, And

1:15:50

when you say you stopped writing your

1:15:53

rhymes and you said you had them on your phone and

1:15:55

he was going off the top, were you doing the Biggie

1:15:58

jay Z ship where you was writing you had or you're

1:16:00

just freestyling. No, I was like, yeah,

1:16:03

kind of writing in my head for sure. I definitely

1:16:05

wouldn't really just freestyling off the top of going

1:16:07

like that, right.

1:16:08

I was like thinking ship, like faux bos

1:16:11

and then just recorded like that.

1:16:13

You feel me? Like even when I was writing,

1:16:15

like, I felt like I was wasting time writing because

1:16:17

I'm thinking of the ship. And then when I'm

1:16:19

writing, shit, I'm thinking too long, trying to write

1:16:21

down one bar instead of just like all

1:16:24

right, that's alady in my head, say it and

1:16:27

then just keep going from there. You feel

1:16:29

me, I felt like I'm wasting that's

1:16:31

like literally when you think of the elite, that's the least

1:16:34

status ship. Yeah, I ain't elitet status. I

1:16:36

can't. I can't remember ship.

1:16:39

Yeah, south Side.

1:16:40

I used to say that Tuto when I first started recording

1:16:42

south Side, like he used to see my process. That's

1:16:44

when I first like that was around

1:16:47

the time when uh, when

1:16:49

Juice was like going crazy and ship

1:16:51

when I'm learning how to really freestyle for

1:16:53

real. So I used to just sit in the studio and listen to the

1:16:55

beat and probably listen to that bitch for like

1:16:58

five ten minutes. But as I'm listening

1:17:00

and niggas thinking, I'm just listening to the beat, but in my

1:17:02

head, I'm coming up with at least like eight bars

1:17:04

that I remember. For shure, once you come

1:17:06

up with the first like eight to twelve bars, you good,

1:17:08

Like I got like eight off the top of my head.

1:17:10

I could do now the next twelve.

1:17:13

All that shit like really a freestyle. I could

1:17:15

just come in and just punch it like

1:17:17

I feel like I always had, like when

1:17:20

I first started rapping.

1:17:22

This shit don't really happen no more.

1:17:23

It's a little easier for me. But I

1:17:26

used to have the most trouble with like my first

1:17:29

four in my last four because

1:17:31

I'm trying to really make the most

1:17:33

sense and tell the story anyway. So it's like

1:17:36

the last four going to the hook. So

1:17:38

you gotta kind of coincide with the hook.

1:17:40

The first four is what you leading them with. You gotta

1:17:43

get them intrigued with the first four bars at

1:17:45

least you feel what I'm saying, alright, So

1:17:47

that was my whole models was my first

1:17:49

four I got. If I'm coming

1:17:52

there with eight bars, I could just cruise my way

1:17:54

through and make sure my last score or two going to

1:17:56

the hook. Like That's how I really learned how the

1:17:58

freestyle type shit. Let's

1:18:01

talk about I Don't want to die? Yeah,

1:18:04

why would you name a song that that

1:18:08

was I don't I Gotta

1:18:10

I Gotta. That was south Side. Really that was south

1:18:12

Side I did. I Gotta get credit to Big Broke. He

1:18:15

sent me that song and he was he

1:18:18

was getting

1:18:20

ready to drop his album, which still

1:18:22

ain't came out to this day. His nigga Rich

1:18:26

He ain't he about to drop right now though,

1:18:28

but he was gonna make that the intro to

1:18:31

the to the next album he dropping. And

1:18:34

I just he just told me, like, man, just go crazy.

1:18:37

But I I he had put the Simple in

1:18:39

there where it was seeing like, you know, I

1:18:41

don't want to die, and he's like, man, just

1:18:43

go crazy on that ship and I

1:18:46

was listening to it. And when I heard the Simple,

1:18:49

I was in Chicago too when I recorded

1:18:51

that ship. That was during quarantine by the File,

1:18:54

when nigga just stuck in Chicago

1:18:57

and when I heard it, just putting in

1:18:59

a different type of like mass on but like the

1:19:01

shit a nigga was rapping about. I

1:19:04

think it probably like was

1:19:07

like right on key because I was in Chicago.

1:19:09

You know, when you in Chicago, you got a different like it's

1:19:11

a different aura. You're feeling that energy. You feel

1:19:14

what I'm saying, like if I'm in La I'm gonna

1:19:16

ride around and a regular car.

1:19:18

You feel I'm in a regular form. And

1:19:20

when I get Chicago, I want to be in a bulletproof

1:19:22

truck just a mask. That is just what

1:19:25

Chicago do or just the shit I've

1:19:27

been through and the shit I experienced. It made

1:19:29

me think. It makes me act the way I got to move

1:19:31

and everything when I'm there, So I feel like

1:19:34

I think, just me doing that shit and

1:19:37

like it's I

1:19:40

like that song really crazy though,

1:19:42

like when you really think about it, like a nigga

1:19:44

talking about like how I shot the video,

1:19:47

like with all the kids in all the different

1:19:49

scenarios or like kids situations,

1:19:52

like it's bigger than just being in the streets.

1:19:54

You feel me like when you in Chicago, it's anything

1:19:57

could happen. You know what I'm saying, like kids getting

1:20:00

trades cross that ship is

1:20:02

so frequent in Chicago, like you know what I'm saying,

1:20:04

more than any other city. So like it just

1:20:06

put me in a different man frame to try to like talk

1:20:08

about my situation and like what I experienced

1:20:11

and still like recollect to

1:20:14

like what happened on the day

1:20:16

to day that don't got nothing to do with anything

1:20:19

street related, you feel me, Because people

1:20:21

try to like associate anything that's going

1:20:23

on in Chicago with just like street

1:20:27

shit. But that ship, like it's beyond

1:20:29

that, because it

1:20:32

affects everybody, you know what I'm saying. It don't

1:20:34

just affect victims, that affect the mothers

1:20:36

affected, you know what I'm saying, affect

1:20:38

everybody who don't got nothing to do with nothing

1:20:40

street oriented at all, you feel me, So the

1:20:43

whole family is yeah, exactly, That's how

1:20:45

like that shit came about, like mentally,

1:20:47

like the ship I was rapping about.

1:20:50

Let me ask you, because like in New

1:20:52

York City, right, every summer

1:20:54

the crime rate goes up because

1:20:56

they say, like, like that in Chicago, but

1:21:00

your crime rate is still crazy in the winter, yeah,

1:21:03

yeah, but the summer's wild.

1:21:04

The summer even worse.

1:21:05

Though someone's even worse, even

1:21:08

worse they give the credit is

1:21:10

crazy when they're.

1:21:12

Below and Nigga's still shooting.

1:21:16

They got gloves, special gloves, and what

1:21:18

then happened?

1:21:20

Get?

1:21:21

I don't know what it is cold.

1:21:24

It's not funny, but I guess it's not funny.

1:21:26

But it's like like you just think about it statistically

1:21:28

in New York City summertime. So

1:21:30

he's saying in New York, like the crime

1:21:33

rate, really it don't really be his hat

1:21:35

during the winter. Yeah,

1:21:40

motherfucker's too cold and

1:21:43

the Timberlands is heavy, you know what I mean?

1:21:45

Like, motherfuckers don't be wanting running and ship.

1:21:47

I don't.

1:21:49

You know, it's mandatory October first

1:21:52

Timblans come out with the winter.

1:21:55

That is the window came.

1:21:57

You don't got.

1:21:58

Miami, I don't know.

1:21:59

All right, down, all right, that's

1:22:01

why I get it, all right, That's why

1:22:03

I really like I ain't gonna like you got it, like it'd

1:22:06

be big. It's

1:22:09

like like, now you know, no joking

1:22:11

shit to like talk

1:22:13

about this shit and people think, like as

1:22:15

an artist, you are glorified. You feel what I'm saying.

1:22:18

But it's just like the experience and the ship

1:22:20

nigga go through you or think is man

1:22:22

blowing? You feel what I'm saying? Like, how you saying that shit

1:22:24

happened through sixty five? No matter, no matter

1:22:27

what you feel me, And that's just built thought, like shit,

1:22:30

whatever trauma, motherfucker you got going

1:22:32

on? What they going through? You feel what I'm saying. So like,

1:22:35

as an artist, we just speak about this ship

1:22:37

and you know what I'm saying and that way you feel

1:22:39

me. But people will think like it's non

1:22:41

existent, but that shit really happened.

1:22:44

Let's go back to gangster rap. Start like

1:22:46

they call it gangster.

1:22:46

Rap, right whatever, NWA

1:22:49

going from that lineage right, going back quick,

1:22:52

and then you're going to drill and then people

1:22:54

try to say drill. The difference

1:22:57

that it did in hip hop

1:23:00

negatively is that it started

1:23:02

talking about real things happening in real time

1:23:06

and started getting people.

1:23:07

Hurt in real time. Because they're talking about real

1:23:09

things in real time.

1:23:12

I feel like they can't really put

1:23:14

all that responsibility on artists.

1:23:17

For one, you know you're right, you're right, And

1:23:20

they can't put all that responsibility on just

1:23:22

the category of drill because rap

1:23:24

was always rap where there was hip

1:23:27

hop gangst the rap. You know what I'm saying, Like, who's

1:23:29

to say nwa not talking

1:23:31

about things that was happening in real time

1:23:33

and what's going on and had the effect that other people

1:23:36

it's no different than what they were saying. And

1:23:38

what with Drill. You feel what I'm saying, Like how

1:23:40

we came up rapping, We didn't try to category

1:23:43

as rap, like we finished just talk about

1:23:45

a straight John recalled

1:23:48

drill. You know what I'm saying. When we're talking about negative

1:23:50

shit, you know, it was just really just talking about our

1:23:52

life and what we was experiencing. You fee what I'm

1:23:54

saying.

1:23:55

That's why I don't like when they categorize things and they try

1:23:57

to separate it.

1:23:58

I feel like they they glad we having this common station

1:24:00

right now.

1:24:00

Because I think it's important because people try to

1:24:03

they want to separate it, and then they isolate

1:24:05

things to see like this is waged is not waged, this good

1:24:07

is bad, and then they everybody feels

1:24:10

they go into different areas and they're like,

1:24:12

all right, we're not that, but we're all

1:24:14

hip hop.

1:24:14

Everything's hip hop. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1:24:16

Old school news School, this school, that school, South

1:24:18

East Coast it's all hip hop.

1:24:19

It don't matter, right, That's what I'm saying.

1:24:21

So it's like, that's what I ain't never

1:24:23

really heard a conversation where like I was,

1:24:26

it came in a way where we're really able

1:24:28

to categorize, like it all

1:24:30

being hip hop. You know, drill was

1:24:32

just basically it was originally like a

1:24:34

term. It's not like we was just like, oh, this is

1:24:37

drill rap. It's not hip hop, you

1:24:39

feel me. It was all supposed to have been rapped in hip

1:24:41

hop because that happened here in Miami. Because in Miami,

1:24:43

that's what happened with Miami base. It tried

1:24:46

to make it a sub genre. It's not hip hop, it's

1:24:48

Miami based music. It's booty

1:24:50

music, they called it.

1:24:52

But now looking now that we're wearing

1:24:54

a different time frame, now it's all hip

1:24:56

hop hip hop, you know what I'm saying. It's

1:24:58

different areas and they they interpret hip

1:25:00

hop differently, right, So.

1:25:02

It's like, yeah, I ain't like.

1:25:04

I ain't never like, And that's crazy.

1:25:06

Even though like people when I used to do interviews,

1:25:09

you can even pull my old interviews up, I

1:25:11

never categorized myself or like

1:25:13

looked at myself as a drill rapper. I always felt

1:25:15

like I was a rapper like pop artist

1:25:18

because I rapped about like soulful

1:25:20

ship. I never just only did drill

1:25:22

beats, you know what I'm saying. I told stories of my rap

1:25:25

I looked up to rappers to hold

1:25:27

to Lil Wayne and the Jada kids to you know what I'm

1:25:29

saying. That's

1:25:33

what It's always versatile to be

1:25:36

able to do that. You know. So I think I

1:25:38

came up in an era where they just considered

1:25:40

the drill, but I never really considered myself as

1:25:42

a drill rapping noise

1:25:45

for us. Yes,

1:25:49

you got you more shots. I'm sorry, let's do

1:25:52

it. We just cut.

1:25:53

You know, why.

1:25:56

Are you putting in your shot? That means we're taking a shot.

1:25:58

Yeah, because you know why, brother, you

1:26:01

really legend out here, really

1:26:04

deserve all the roses, the flowers,

1:26:07

all the accolades, everything, Like

1:26:10

ye're you out here and you're doing it honorably,

1:26:13

you know, you know what I mean, Like so many people from

1:26:15

your generation, we'll go, yeah,

1:26:27

you know that they take that funny

1:26:30

route. We don't like that

1:26:32

funny rout. We like hard work.

1:26:34

Yeah, No, for real, man, I ain't gonna lie, Niggas

1:26:37

is right. Really want to just do this ship the

1:26:39

right way to you, mother, appreciate

1:26:41

you, Herbal. You don't want no drinks.

1:26:43

I see I see you getting a drink. I see you, I

1:26:46

see you. The ladies. You don't want to drinks.

1:26:49

They got something.

1:26:50

They got something so

1:26:52

about riding with it, right with

1:26:55

it, right with

1:26:57

it?

1:26:57

Man?

1:26:57

That was That was another song

1:27:00

like that's crazy, all these songs.

1:27:04

It was a ship I recorded like during

1:27:06

the quarantine period, like when niggas really

1:27:08

couldn't like travel. When I was on like

1:27:11

recording PTSD and all that ship was

1:27:13

going on, I felt like Chicago

1:27:15

was outside when people was inside. Yeah,

1:27:17

okay, I was like

1:27:21

COVID at all. And then I was outside.

1:27:23

He was already quarantined before that.

1:27:26

I ain't gonna, I didn't.

1:27:28

I was outside. Yeah. I went to Prime one

1:27:30

twelve one night. I felt like we was outside the middle

1:27:32

of COVID quarantine side. It

1:27:36

was literally

1:27:39

the game. I said, were outside on my block, hunted

1:27:42

two hundred deep, in the middle of quarantine, in the middle

1:27:44

of COVID, sunny

1:27:47

outside. Shoot the video.

1:27:49

I just bought my Rose Royce spent

1:27:51

five no mask.

1:27:53

It's about the color that put that bitch right up

1:27:55

on the block shot the videos. You feel Me,

1:27:58

I was just you know like masks. Yeah

1:28:01

I had der mask in the video

1:28:03

on Bro.

1:28:03

You know that.

1:28:06

The mass on man in the Trenches,

1:28:08

But yeah, that's

1:28:10

that song was. When I look back

1:28:13

at it, man, it just makes me like real

1:28:16

really be like just grateful, like

1:28:18

the moment of what you get first and foremost

1:28:21

at the artists, because that's like as an

1:28:23

artist, I mean, that's one of like like

1:28:25

my one of my biggest songs still to this day,

1:28:28

and that's just me on some that's the ship

1:28:30

I just do naturally like comfortable

1:28:33

on some rapping shit, just talking

1:28:35

about you know what I'm saying, the trenches and what I'm

1:28:37

thinking on the day to day. You feel me. That's still one

1:28:39

of my biggest songs today. But I'm saying

1:28:42

that to say like it's just making it

1:28:44

like grateful

1:28:46

looking back because I wasn't even thinking

1:28:49

of what it was gonna be to this day and just

1:28:51

looking back at people from the video that's

1:28:54

like not even still hit to this day.

1:28:56

People that I lost, You feel what I'm saying, Like shit

1:28:59

like that just gotta not take

1:29:01

moments for granted, God

1:29:03

bless you do you because

1:29:07

a lot of people say living

1:29:09

in LA it's dangerous

1:29:11

as well. Do you look at it like that? Yeah?

1:29:14

Yeah, that's where you live now, Yeah

1:29:17

I look at I mean I really look at that air place

1:29:20

like that, just because I feel

1:29:22

like to be aware as to be alive, you

1:29:24

know what I'm saying. Like always I'm

1:29:26

a super alert kind of like

1:29:29

people might look at it like I'm pairing it or

1:29:31

whatever, but I'm just always thinking

1:29:33

of like how I was raised. I think of the worst

1:29:35

case scenario, so I always be prepared

1:29:38

to just do whatever to make sure I

1:29:40

get home, to make sure I'm protected in my family

1:29:42

protected, you know what I'm saying. So, like I

1:29:45

feel like, and

1:29:48

it's crazy because I moved to LA to get

1:29:50

away from that type of ship LA,

1:29:53

right that. Yeah, Like no,

1:29:55

I'm saying I moved to LA because I

1:29:57

just not even get away from like islence

1:30:00

and shit. But like I felt like in Chicago

1:30:02

at the time, it was like a crabbing

1:30:05

a bucket mentality, crabbing, a bureau

1:30:07

mentality type of shit, you.

1:30:08

Know what I'm saying, Because that's happens every city in

1:30:11

every city, each in there

1:30:13

grabbing.

1:30:14

They're like yeah, so it's like I felt

1:30:16

like LA was to get away from that

1:30:18

and I could go where, you know, be

1:30:20

with my family and be with my kids,

1:30:23

go and enjoy life and enjoying myself without

1:30:25

always looking over my shoulder, you know what I'm saying.

1:30:28

But like I'm still taking precaution

1:30:30

no matter where I'm at, you know what I'm saying. It's

1:30:36

they don't want to be capital hard accidents.

1:30:43

Because I know you're twenty eight, so you probably

1:30:45

can't fully understand

1:30:48

this, But do you realize they

1:30:50

say the first gangs that ever was invented

1:30:52

was in Chicago.

1:30:53

Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

1:30:55

I'm I really be

1:30:58

like.

1:30:59

As like I'll

1:31:01

be paying attention, and I studied that type

1:31:04

of ship like always. I'm big on

1:31:06

like history, you know what I'm saying, No matter why, man.

1:31:08

Like definitely the biggest game. Yeah it's come

1:31:10

out.

1:31:11

I'm big on like just history, especially

1:31:14

black history, like anything black

1:31:16

history, any type of you know what I'm saying, Like, I'll

1:31:19

be into that type of ship. So yeah, I know,

1:31:21

I feel like a lot of ship was brought on just

1:31:23

by for coltrust and kind

1:31:25

of rational trauma type of shit. You feel me because

1:31:28

kind of LA's culture. I

1:31:31

don't want to say mimicked because

1:31:33

that might be the wrong word, but I

1:31:35

believe Black Pea Stones.

1:31:38

Yeah, it's like the first game

1:31:40

in Chicago, and Black Pea Stones is the oldest

1:31:42

gang in LA or one of

1:31:44

the oldest gangs that's credibly not saying transformed

1:31:47

into what what would have transformed

1:31:49

into in LA bloods? Oh

1:31:52

yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, but that

1:31:54

that originated wasn't

1:31:58

wasn't Christ before bloods?

1:32:00

Yeah, but that that's the blood part

1:32:02

of it, you know what I mean. So I believe

1:32:04

Raymond Washington if if

1:32:07

I'm not.

1:32:07

I mean, we definitely don't. I don't know, I'm

1:32:09

not. But but what I'm

1:32:11

saying saying is the

1:32:13

first recorded originating

1:32:16

in Chicago. Yeah, originated in Chicago.

1:32:18

So like I don't know if it's the terminology

1:32:21

that they use gang,

1:32:24

if that's what it is.

1:32:25

But yeah, yeah, that gang

1:32:27

definitely originated in Chicago.

1:32:28

Like I remember going to Chicago. I swear to God

1:32:30

and I have my my my leg

1:32:33

my past leg up and people.

1:32:35

Were like yo yo yo yo one

1:32:37

up. Yeah, I didn't know what the fun was happening

1:32:40

on some games on the gang ship.

1:32:43

Yeah, I was wearing my hat the wrong way one

1:32:45

time. They were like hat.

1:32:46

But I ain't never heard about the legs. Yeah yeah,

1:32:49

maybe you here's.

1:32:49

Your leg and your head on the same I

1:32:52

was in Puerto Weecan section. Maybe

1:32:55

it was some weird ass ship look

1:32:58

telling me to talk about it. I

1:33:01

never had's

1:33:05

take a shot of that. Let's take a shot for

1:33:07

that. Goddamn it. That was

1:33:10

take a shot for that. Motherfucker. Let's

1:33:13

make some noise. I

1:33:19

do not them convince you to take a shot

1:33:21

of that. Yeah, I ain't taking a shot.

1:33:27

Can you stand my my candle er please? S

1:33:31

thank you? Bro?

1:33:37

Kill ship, kill ship, kill

1:33:39

ship a little bit me. We

1:33:42

were speaking about it earlier.

1:33:43

Yeah, like I said, Bro, put

1:33:45

that whole ship together. That's crazy, Damn.

1:33:50

I ain't never really even spoke with this. I recorded

1:33:54

that verse in My.

1:33:55

Little Brother creb Man long Live, look

1:33:58

great. Little bro just

1:34:00

passed away three years ago, yesterday,

1:34:02

yesterday. It was just three take

1:34:06

a shot for a little bro man. You

1:34:11

gotta pull me in another shot. But

1:34:14

uh, yeah, I recorded that video in the

1:34:16

living room at

1:34:18

Libertal Spot. Uh and

1:34:22

baby really put the whole ship together. Shower

1:34:24

dj L recorded, I mean

1:34:26

cook the beat up right on the spot ship

1:34:33

and we really like, I think

1:34:36

that's probably still one of my biggest

1:34:38

streaming songs to this day. We really

1:34:40

ain't even like know

1:34:42

what we was doing with that ship. We shot the video.

1:34:45

Man, he was probably sixteen seventeen, So we

1:34:47

shot that video at five five

1:34:49

in the morning on sunny on

1:34:52

Sidney a fan Kingston. It's outside posted

1:34:55

up on some young ship. Just I

1:34:57

got a video viral, man,

1:35:02

I got a video that's still viral. Oh

1:35:05

shure, let me take this shot for a little bro.

1:35:07

Man, So

1:35:10

I look so for

1:35:12

a little broskie. I

1:35:17

got a video viral. Me

1:35:21

and baby free I was freestyl

1:35:23

Biby standing next to me.

1:35:34

I got drunk.

1:35:36

I had dj L d j L who

1:35:39

made a beat. He was cooking

1:35:41

the ship up on the spot. Like literally

1:35:43

it's four five in the morning. Niggas

1:35:45

young and said breaking curfew

1:35:48

twenty deep on the block. Uh

1:35:52

just shot nigga Jordan

1:35:54

him shot the video just

1:35:58

on some random ship, bro, and

1:36:00

that ship just went legendary. Man, just

1:36:03

just just kids trying ship like you felt

1:36:06

when I look back on it, you know what I'm saying, Like, we

1:36:08

ain't even know where that ship was going.

1:36:10

We just shot this ship on some random ship

1:36:12

on the block literally four five in the morning,

1:36:16

and that ship took us where it needed

1:36:18

to go. Got damn fucking

1:36:21

beautiful all

1:36:23

right?

1:36:25

All right, By the way, this is this is three questions

1:36:27

back to back because we got three

1:36:30

fucking records with little Uzi Verkin.

1:36:32

Yeah, yeah, very that's my man. Well,

1:36:35

we got bro got h on

1:36:38

my phone, We got everything. Uh,

1:36:42

he don't know who running ship we

1:36:44

got. I

1:36:47

got just trying to think right

1:36:49

the way you think I forgot why I've

1:36:51

seen him? It was like seven o'clock

1:36:53

in the morning.

1:36:54

Yeah, you saw him at

1:36:56

seven o'clock in the morning.

1:36:57

Yeah. I sent him a shot. He

1:37:00

took it at seven o'clock in the morning. Yeah.

1:37:03

Yeah, it sounds like what shot? Did you send

1:37:05

him whatever he wanted? Wait,

1:37:08

whatever, he's at another table. I was like

1:37:10

yo, I was testing him. I was like yo, telling

1:37:13

him, send him, send him whatever he wants.

1:37:16

And he was like, yeah, he took the shot. He walked

1:37:18

over to my table and I sent him another

1:37:20

shot and he took it, and then he sent

1:37:23

me another shot. And we was going

1:37:25

all night. I'm talking about I

1:37:28

don't want to say where. Yeah,

1:37:30

bro, real

1:37:33

nigga, the show like me and who

1:37:35

he ain't gonna let it me and Who's

1:37:37

he got a different relationship bro, Me and me and broken

1:37:39

locked in like literally just

1:37:42

like the beginning, like I mean

1:37:44

since the beginning of his career, like literally

1:37:47

type of ship. You feel me? This is

1:37:49

my shot? I mean it's not ours?

1:37:53

Ye shot already? Yeah?

1:37:54

Yeah, is this my fault? Definitely

1:37:57

definitely an't drink unless your ice melted, just.

1:38:00

Like like I think your ice soldier

1:38:03

that was just hanging around your buddy just

1:38:05

melted. That's

1:38:08

probably just fuddy m hm. And

1:38:10

you got ice in them, motherfucker, that's probably. That's

1:38:12

all. I ain't gonna lie to you. If you would have hit that

1:38:15

stole the elite with concrete,

1:38:18

yeah, you wouldn't be discreet. I

1:38:21

ain't running up on it as

1:38:24

I know who

1:38:26

run it first? Yeah, who

1:38:28

run it?

1:38:29

Man?

1:38:29

Shout my boy, baby, Man shout baby

1:38:31

for Dallas for sure, Man,

1:38:34

that's who running. That's crazy.

1:38:36

I'd be like when I thinking

1:38:39

about ship, like that ship told

1:38:41

me like I had there's

1:38:43

some funny ass ship, right, I stole my

1:38:45

toe. I hit my toe on the edge

1:38:47

of the bed, and my ship was hurting bad as fuck. I

1:38:49

couldn't even put my shoe on. Which toe?

1:38:53

Is that really?

1:38:54

Damn?

1:38:55

The little told I

1:38:57

couldn't walk the little toe the little

1:38:59

one bro ship turned black.

1:39:02

Man, it was fucked up. It was at the top.

1:39:05

Was like, I don't

1:39:07

really look though.

1:39:08

Man, I couldn't. I couldn't want you

1:39:11

take a picture. Little To

1:39:13

this day, nobody noticed. I really

1:39:16

went up to the ship, rolled up on the

1:39:18

little chill. The little one that rolled it

1:39:20

wasn't a wheel channel, you know, the little chair that spin

1:39:23

around the folk. I rolled one of

1:39:25

them bitches all the way on the elevator up

1:39:28

to the ship. Did the freestyle. Ship

1:39:31

was sucked up. I'm like, man, I ain't even want to do

1:39:33

this ship, but that ship can't

1:39:35

win so viral. After that, I'm like, damn,

1:39:37

man, I got to just start doing ship when I don't

1:39:39

even want to do it, Like fuck it, this just

1:39:42

go through it. That ship taught me a little mintal

1:39:44

lesson. But anyway, I had did

1:39:46

the freestyle and

1:39:49

put that ship on my page. Then

1:39:51

drake head DM me like, man, make that ship

1:39:53

a song. Okay, talking about

1:39:56

Bro, I

1:40:02

had did a freestyle. I told

1:40:04

you I wanted a baby. I did freestyle

1:40:08

after I stub my toe. I want to take

1:40:10

your dam after your toe was

1:40:12

hurt. After I posted the ship on my page.

1:40:15

Drake had hit me in the DM like, man,

1:40:18

make that ship a song. Drake is a lection

1:40:20

bro, he's alec. Yeah. I

1:40:23

wanted to drink man, and he told you you the future

1:40:26

he did, Bro, that's.

1:40:27

All the record got got

1:40:31

to get a record again. He can't

1:40:33

say that and then not do the record.

1:40:35

You know that, Man, I'm gonna get it done. You

1:40:37

know that? Who you

1:40:39

played basketball? Yeah? Who

1:40:42

you thinking? But me and Drake? Yeah?

1:40:44

As was he?

1:40:46

Hey what big bro? What man?

1:40:48

We gave Drake ass work man?

1:40:50

He was man. He put us out of the studio. We want

1:40:52

he advels to it. He knows they we won.

1:40:54

They lost? Wait wait talking about he

1:40:57

was in the big show?

1:40:59

Who was Okay? Hold on, so what

1:41:01

happened? All right?

1:41:02

Tell us tell you said the crib in l

1:41:04

a hooping who

1:41:07

was on our team?

1:41:07

It was me, big Bro? Who's

1:41:10

big Bro? We need to know a one

1:41:13

right there? It's big Bro?

1:41:14

Okay, Addy was on our team.

1:41:17

Wanted to get added all all on bro and

1:41:20

so.

1:41:21

This is shot talent against Toronto. Is this what

1:41:23

happened? Uh? It was that

1:41:25

was ourful dash dash

1:41:28

he my bro Aaron

1:41:30

Sharral, you know, big c over geffing

1:41:32

on Brodie.

1:41:33

Okay, Brodie was four

1:41:35

and four and we was playing.

1:41:38

We played. We played Drake

1:41:40

little Man, We played Drake twenty

1:41:42

one Savage who was on the team.

1:41:46

It was like two more people, ain't lie, we bust

1:41:48

the ass though, we're not going to Drake

1:41:52

bust Drake and twenty one Savage twenty

1:41:55

one was playing with him to bro But that was

1:41:57

a little That was a little scrimmage though I ain't really gonna

1:42:00

do too much bathroom on it.

1:42:02

But they.

1:42:04

Beat yourself up and took your back. I'm not sure,

1:42:09

y'all. Yeah, what was the game? What?

1:42:11

What was it? Like? Like? How many wines?

1:42:14

How many were probably played? Like eleven

1:42:16

weelve eleven or some ship. It was probably like four

1:42:19