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Yo y'all.

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And right now, let me just tell you something.

0:57

I'm even going through this man desiography,

1:00

and a lot of people sleep on him because they don't know.

1:02

He got hit after hit after

1:05

hit.

1:05

I've been listening to his his his, his

1:07

records for many days and

1:09

many days, and I'm sitting there saying, when is

1:12

my record with him coming up?

1:13

That's how many, That's how much joints he got. People

1:16

asleep.

1:17

They don't understand. He's one of the most loyalist people.

1:19

Uh, He's one of the most realists. Uh

1:23

uh, he's ship. I spoke

1:26

to him in COVID. He was ready for he was

1:28

ready for versus we have rhymes

1:30

and bars.

1:31

I'm ready. I'm still ready, still

1:34

ready.

1:36

He's been out I know him since naice ninety.

1:38

He's one of the most best people I've

1:40

ever met. He's came out here big hits,

1:42

big love, big energy.

1:45

In case you don't know what we're talking about about, the one the

1:47

motherfucker only don't

1:52

forget drink Chancellor hip

1:57

Hop fifty. We got to give it up like the Woo

1:59

sending care I might be drink. You

2:02

know what I'm saying.

2:03

Yeah, I'm

2:05

not exaggerating.

2:08

You know, when we when we do an interview,

2:10

we get our artists playlist,

2:13

right, so we go through a whole

2:15

artist discography.

2:16

You're sick this pause, this, it just kept going.

2:19

I was just like, wait a minute, like, doesn't it stop

2:21

somewhere.

2:22

That it just now?

2:23

Niggas sleep on me. Man, they don't try to give me my

2:25

credit. It's cool. Help me get all

2:27

the credit, you know, without without

2:30

the goon start with them. I don't think

2:32

y'all would have know. Here's that real squad.

2:38

High right right right, and

2:47

I was trying to count them. Do

2:49

you have the most jay Z features ever?

2:52

Yeah?

2:52

So they had them all. They had them up on the list like

2:55

on Twitter a while back, who got

2:57

the most and who got the best? I got a

2:59

bad thing about twenty four to twenty features

3:01

with hole time out. Hold

3:04

on, I'm watching you on

3:06

TMZ the other day. I'm talking

3:08

to you. Lam.

3:12

He pulled up on you and said, is this myth

3:14

Bleak and jay Z album ever

3:16

going to happen?

3:17

Was it an EP?

3:18

Yeah? Yeah, because I have never heard heard

3:20

of that.

3:21

No, No, that was from him.

3:22

I was TMZ doing.

3:24

He said, you made Yeah, I

3:27

love that. That's what I said. That

3:29

was a good one. He made that up right there on the spot.

3:31

And I'm like, ship, I should have tried that at a hundred

3:34

million, not a billy. You know what I'm

3:36

saying.

3:37

Yo, let me get a verse. I can hear that l ready.

3:39

Hi Yo, you buggy yo,

3:42

crack that dude, save my nigga. Yo,

3:44

let's go there, let's go, let's go spit some

3:46

money.

3:47

You bucking Okay, But let me

3:49

just be clear with you. I something

3:51

digging into you got like a whole album. You got

3:54

a double album with them.

3:55

I do. People don't give credit. I do have

3:57

an album with Whole The Dangers Stay out here.

4:00

Yeah, the Dynasty album is a collaboratory

4:02

album of all of us. Right, you

4:04

know what I'm saying.

4:05

Mill Is on that as well.

4:06

No, Mail ain't make the No

4:10

she ain't make the Dynasty. Freeway was

4:12

the new addition on the Dynasty album. Yeah

4:15

right, all right, So look we

4:17

got the computer all

4:19

ship were going and we did.

4:23

Can we give him a drink? Can we give him a computer?

4:25

Give when digit? I'm

4:27

assuming there's joints that never came out to you got together?

4:29

Oh yeah, yeah, we got We got a couple of joints.

4:31

Man, it's a joint that we did over shout out

4:33

the Homie lead through BIZU over there in London. He

4:36

had a major major record called Pole that

4:39

me and whole like when we you know, are you kidding?

4:52

Listen? She was coming

4:55

here. We

5:05

said them up. We said we're gonna bring them in and

5:07

he said, I said, what's Bleak's loyalty?

5:09

I did nothing to say that that was exactly I said, look,

5:12

that was so perfect. Yeah, of course we got the new safe

5:14

for you.

5:16

Yeah. Yeah, now

5:21

we roll and and let's just

5:23

be.

5:23

Clear, I just seen

5:25

bleaking the Mafi coach, not not like I've seen

5:27

you there.

5:28

Like I said, I spoke to you. You told

5:30

me some spots that told me about the Honey Steps

5:33

again. Yes, ain't gonna lie. I

5:36

stay in the hotel. You and your homies went the

5:39

Big Boy Mansion.

5:40

Yeah, we tried to do it was my it was my forty fifth.

5:42

You know, I wanted to do it right.

5:43

I didn't get to really celebrate my fortieth because

5:45

my baby girl was born, so I had

5:47

to blend them both this time.

5:49

Do something different. Movie star ship.

5:50

Because he don't go over over out of seas unless

5:53

it's like overseas.

5:56

Yeah, man is budging. Listen,

5:58

he only gonna cation on the other side of Florida,

6:01

Yo. Ship.

6:02

Ever since I have my kids, they young, so I'm

6:04

just I'm

6:07

not going unless it's important real

6:10

vacation ever employed vacation.

6:13

This guy just wants to go.

6:14

Everywhere to go. Yo.

6:17

No, no it is. It is because my

6:20

man twenty one, I'm

6:22

in the trenches still, you

6:25

deep in there.

6:26

Let me just let me just want we here because it just like some Brooklyn

6:29

Ship, what did you feel about his argument with ice

6:31

Cube and Biggie.

6:33

It's not a comparison there.

6:34

Here we go, man Brooklyn, who want

6:39

something Biggie better or ice Cube better?

6:41

But it's just like you got to give both of

6:43

them. They stamp for moving the

6:45

wave. Like when Cube left n

6:47

w A, it was like the biggest thing ever

6:50

to go solo, breakaway from a group and

6:52

have that impact and come to the East and

6:54

get all the East coacht producers. Then

6:56

yeah, the bump squad. Then when Biggie came

6:59

out, it was like eat the West had the chokehole

7:01

on the industry. He bought it back to the East.

7:03

So you can't compare them together. They had two

7:05

different waves that was monumental

7:08

in their own right. Like you know what I'm saying, So your

7:10

argument is not valid. Yeah, nah, it

7:12

was ridiculous. He asked me my favorite artist

7:15

was answer New

7:19

York. Yeah, Now

7:21

it's cool man. It's a lot of favorites out there

7:24

though. Man, I just got to meet Trenched the

7:26

other day. Man was one of the ellis.

7:27

I don't think Trench understand how important my

7:29

career.

7:30

He was, like that boy was was

7:32

He didn't have a lot.

7:33

He didn't have a lock on it.

7:34

No, not your chill. Like

7:39

I know him, I seen him many years, but this is my first

7:41

time really getting to meet him.

7:42

And like you know, that naughty by nature run was

7:45

was longous.

7:46

Man. You know what I'm saying. I pay homage to all

7:48

the O g's the king I nex

7:50

E P M D. I mean when I first met them, had

7:52

to let them know listen, strictly business got

7:55

a bucket, had all that already.

7:59

I mean when I wear the back at least that's my man day

8:01

in the day only.

8:01

You know what I'm saying.

8:03

We we it's a lot of history there,

8:05

man. We got to give you the set up, Rob

8:07

all right, cool ship. Well, we always wanted

8:10

to listen. I got your phone on. I spent to you every

8:13

two weeks. I need to ask you this direct

8:15

a long time ago. But

8:18

people, let's sell it the weak person. We show the people.

8:21

I always wanted to know what what was this footage?

8:23

I know it's after Hope was performing,

8:26

but.

8:26

Oh man, I know what footage?

8:27

You know? Hold

8:30

on, yo, that's the Spanish

8:32

one. Now y'all got to see it. What it's the Spanish

8:34

one? Yo?

8:39

Chill yo,

8:42

they said, Yo, they said this way,

8:44

hop clipped us. My

8:51

man's flights, man, rest in peace, my

8:53

g slice man.

8:57

My mom's in there. You see my mom's back

8:59

there.

9:00

So this is summer jam.

9:01

Yeah. So when Mike was here, let

9:04

everybody else speak. Yeah, okay,

9:07

Bobby Dad, Bobby

9:10

Dad way look.

9:12

Free, ain't even have the real big yet.

9:14

He ain't even connected.

9:17

Ain't even have the big So

9:20

the rumor is whole clipped

9:22

us. After that, yeah, he was like, I'm

9:24

done with these niggas. I

9:29

love that narrative. I never wanted to

9:31

correct it. I wanted to keep going. That's

9:34

dope you I would clip me these

9:40

niggas is bugget yo.

9:42

But nah, what it was for

9:45

people that don't know, because obviously, like

9:48

sometimes I'll be like somewhere like in a burger

9:51

bar, and like the footage will come.

9:52

Up or something and people would just be looking at

9:54

it.

9:54

They have no idea that this is jay

9:57

Z, this is you guys performing JA

10:00

Michael Jackson, y'all bring up Michael Jackson.

10:02

This is right after Michael Jackson just let

10:04

me just shut it down, left the stage,

10:07

Mike, and you know, much respect. Ralph McDaniels,

10:09

you know, just felt like it was

10:12

nothing to say, Like Ralph wanted to

10:14

interview him, and it's like, what do you say right after

10:16

you get off stage of bringing Mike up there? You

10:18

feel me?

10:19

And he was like, yo, y'all had y'all do

10:21

y'all things. So you know that was the green like to be like.

10:23

Oh shit, okay, they'll

10:26

snow what it is with him. That's

10:38

how it.

10:39

So it was like, okay, so you know that's

10:42

what that was man, because.

10:46

He actually didn't say nothing. He

10:48

just keeps pouring like let

10:50

him go, let him go, because it was

10:52

like, yo, dog, what do you say?

10:54

Like what do you say?

10:55

After that? I brought Mike to the hood dog

10:57

like playing and it was ill that

11:00

Mike situation. You know, Mike rest

11:02

in peace to the goat, the goat, the goat.

11:05

You know, Mike came through rgular listen. If

11:07

you wasn't with ho, you had

11:09

to turn around and face the wall. So

11:12

Mike was it Micha who delivered that speech

11:15

like don't listen to me. His security teage

11:17

came in before he came in, right, So they like

11:19

this everybody who don't have

11:22

the like the Jay z pass like I'm with them

11:27

pass. Gee. They was making niggas

11:29

turn up face the wall like it was the pat down

11:31

on the block, like everybody.

11:34

Because Mike didn't want out of eye contact,

11:36

nobody look them in his eyes.

11:38

I might have turned around with the permission. I want

11:40

to look at his eyes moment.

11:46

I gotta see Mike.

11:47

So I'm looking at anybody in the hallway face of

11:49

the wall.

11:50

Like these days, anybody

11:59

that we know that turning around.

12:01

It's a lot of people traveling around lobby dash

12:04

at a lot of people. I can't.

12:06

I't gonna throw a lot of people. That right

12:08

there is like not even throwing you under the bus. It's

12:10

like tying you to the train track. So I ain't

12:16

so I ain't gonna do that. But just no, if

12:18

you wasn't immediate, you you face

12:20

that wall, homie, that was it. And Mike

12:22

didn't one niggas looking him face to face. So when

12:25

Mike came through, you know me, I gotta get a glimpse

12:27

of Mike's smith in the hallway. So I'm

12:29

in the whole way moving around. Mike came through

12:31

with the major uh the c he

12:34

was he

12:38

knew he was on the Asia years ago.

12:40

He knew that shit was coming. That

12:45

asked y'all remember the first time I went.

12:49

I went to I think it was Singapore,

12:51

somewhere crazy. They had the major Hello Kitty

12:53

mass running around crazy and this is ninety nine and

12:56

this went Hello Kitty. I think just

12:58

got to America because it's been big go over the never

13:00

wear masks. Might wearing a.

13:02

Mask for is it's something here? I don't know, So then

13:05

later on we all wear masks. So here we go.

13:08

So let's get back to Mike.

13:09

So Mike didn't want nobody.

13:11

In his eyes. He came through. Hey,

13:13

hey, hey, everybody. You know I ain't got the voice

13:16

right now, but he definitely

13:18

came through waving. He ain't even say

13:20

nothing on the stage. He just came through waves, no

13:23

hol and he showed them he left.

13:25

But yeah, security, he

13:28

just walked through. And I

13:30

think we all thought he performed it. Okay, queensing

13:33

me perform what you people

13:35

would have.

13:35

Died like, yeah,

13:39

like you can just these were the fainted Mike.

13:42

Before you give how you give Mike a mic?

13:46

Queensing me does not want to ask this question,

13:48

but I gotta ask this couch up because

13:50

that the same.

13:51

I do say that you gotta mix this. It's too

13:53

early.

13:54

I don't want to be under the table, baby girl, you

13:57

know what I'm saying.

13:57

But is that the same summer

13:59

je him where he said you

14:02

don't want it? What hold you out of Ballerina?

14:04

I seen you?

14:06

It might be I think so, I think

14:09

saying yeah, I think so. I think it was

14:11

hold on some bullshit.

14:12

I has to go here. That's the monster he is. Man,

14:14

you gotta remember the era they came up in. Man,

14:16

Like that eighties era, you had to

14:19

be a monster man, like I was

14:21

telling Yeah, I was telling

14:23

my man the other day. Man, I think

14:25

that that late eighties

14:27

early nineties era might have

14:30

been the hardest error

14:32

to come up in as a as a little physician,

14:35

was a little anything yeah, streets

14:37

trying to do anything because it was no beliefs

14:39

for nothing. Remember everybody was doing bad.

14:42

When we got on it got deals. Bro, saying you

14:44

was gonna be a rapper was just equivalent telling niggas

14:46

you going to the NBA, nigga whatever, right

14:49

like fuck out, you never getting on. You're gonna be

14:51

right here with me straight

14:55

up. Like today you're telling you getting a deal nigga

14:57

Like, okay, I see you on bet tonight, right,

15:00

yeah, Like it's

15:02

that easy back then that you had

15:04

to be an animal. So when you come from that

15:07

or you know, it's animal instincts, I'm gonna kill

15:09

you and I'm gonna kill you more.

15:12

I'm a bouncer for a little while. You know, somebody's

15:14

gonna make sense, someone's not. You sn't take a sip of douce save

15:16

you?

15:17

Why now? But I need to chase Yeah,

15:20

yeah, some or some some plain

15:23

apple or something, you know, some lemonade, you

15:25

know what I mean? Yeah, no over

15:28

here. Yeah, So we

15:30

just had herb on right here, yo, chill,

15:33

shout out, Gotti man, my guy

15:35

man. The crackhouse studio, he ain't lie about

15:37

that. What's one of the best, one of the best

15:39

studio right downstairs. That was the Wing

15:42

spots Get Wings.

15:43

It definitely was one of the best spots. I agree.

15:45

But he said he said that

15:48

Dane was along.

15:50

I know, he said Dang was along for the ride.

15:53

Weren't we all.

15:56

Right?

15:56

Were we all? Like? What did

15:58

anybody really have to do? Don't

16:00

get it wrong, Dang wasn't around for the ride.

16:03

Neither was Bigs everybody played a major,

16:05

major role, you know what I'm saying. When

16:08

I came around, it was Clark, Kent and

16:10

Hove running around in the studio. And

16:13

then I met Dame uptown with original

16:15

flavor, Ton Hooker and skiing them, you know, didn't

16:17

Ski making the beats and all that. And

16:19

it was just the crew. So every Dame had

16:21

the industry the knowledge of being a manager.

16:24

Hole was straight from the black. You ain't know nothing

16:26

about the industry. Clock was the producer. Ski

16:28

was an artist, which dang managhed

16:30

the original flavor. And when God, he tell

16:32

y'all, yeah, I was JDJ. He

16:35

was more than the DJ. Bro. He put the whole death

16:37

gym play together. Now, Irving wouldn't

16:39

be no Rockefeller death. They're saying, everybody's important,

16:42

everybody like to get like

16:45

like yay, say, man, no one man could have all

16:47

that power. Any successful person

16:49

in this world is definitely a couple people

16:51

that paved the way with them, that helped them along

16:53

the way. Man, you can't do it alone, bro, There's

16:56

no way. It's impossible. Okay,

17:01

Now I believe we upgraded, we got we

17:03

got big good.

17:10

We're good now, So

17:13

all right.

17:13

Let's let's let's let's Like I said, I'm bouncing

17:15

around a little bit. This is famous clip right where

17:18

Dame is on a bus and I believe he's talking to Lenny

17:20

s And I believe he's talking to Skan

17:23

Dollar and I think you're on the bus.

17:24

I'm not quite sure.

17:26

This clue bus, this clue bus part

17:28

in that life when they ain't have no lights.

17:30

And he's saying that if

17:32

one guy's is the head of the crew,

17:35

it's not really sufficient.

17:36

It should be everyone who has who has

17:38

it? Do you think that is

17:41

that that came into fruition definitely,

17:44

Like look at look at rat Nation, man,

17:47

everybody is is a boss in his own right.

17:49

There's no one boss.

17:50

You got got em Marie, you got ta Ti,

17:53

you got Dash, you got one, got Jay

17:55

Brown. Everybody play a major

17:57

role in the in they section and do what they do,

18:00

know what I mean?

18:00

And nobody pocket watching.

18:02

Everybody bosses everybody through the roof

18:04

chewing beyond chewing, you know what I'm saying.

18:06

Like so, and that's the way it's supposed

18:09

to go. That's how you build the crew, right, that's how you

18:11

that's a boss. Like Ross say, a boss is

18:13

won't guarantee we're gonna eat, and.

18:17

So you believe that it came. It

18:19

worked out like that.

18:20

Hell yeah, man, Like I always knew

18:22

Man since a kid, I always knew Hoole was different

18:24

man, just just off the way he lived, the ship,

18:26

he drove, how he talked, like how

18:28

he how he dressed. I just knew he was. Like God,

18:31

damn, we fucked up out of your niggas got

18:33

flat traps hanging from the ceiling.

18:34

How the fuck this thing got an a C in his crib? What are

18:36

you doing?

18:38

You know what I'm saying. This nigga got centronella

18:40

CANDUs. How the fucking flat trap

18:43

on the ceiling? Where you get that candle from? Then?

18:47

You know what I'm saying. That hung out in the window while

18:49

we had the fan that you had to throw water on

18:52

in the summer.

18:53

You know, stray that water bottle on

18:55

it. Get that little extra breeze on.

18:57

Baby. You know, the hole just

18:59

was different, a C like big white

19:01

marble, everything in the room white.

19:03

Like he just always was a different

19:05

breed.

19:06

I just wish like you now you tell

19:08

your son as a kid, You're like, Yo, this ain't gonna be great,

19:10

But you don't know it's gonna actually happen. If

19:13

somebody would have told me your bleak, you're really gonna I had

19:15

have wrote a whole plan, but to plant

19:17

this ship a whole lot better you feel me, I

19:20

wouldn't have been along with the ride right

19:24

straight up.

19:25

One thing about you is I

19:28

don't care what anything happened

19:31

you. Your relationship will hold stage the

19:33

thing.

19:34

Because I don't. I'm a true friend man.

19:36

We true friends like ty Ti

19:38

jaan E Marie. Like I said, we all

19:41

from it's real friendship. Nobody

19:43

pocket watching. I don't

19:45

care a hole a billionaire. I don't care

19:47

you one hundred million a dollar. I'm

19:49

gonna still call you and be like, yo, what up? Bit chazz

19:51

snigging you that

19:54

versus whack like.

19:57

Yo, yo, his

20:00

versus lacking a long time.

20:01

Now, he ain't spent a versatal little time, So

20:06

dig was? I told who a lot of

20:08

it? You said it was hard?

20:10

I told that have to talk

20:13

that verse.

20:13

Sometimes I tell him, yo, bro, you spassed

20:16

or Yo, you ain't go hard enough. But

20:18

he definitely ships on me. If that nigga

20:21

called me like right now, oh

20:23

call me automatically,

20:25

ain't no what up?

20:26

My g without my straight up what up

20:28

the jazz nigga?

20:29

What up fake ass bolls? Yo,

20:35

I'm saying ships on me no matter what I do,

20:38

Yo, what you're out there doing making no money?

20:47

That's the ship I get. So we keep

20:49

it all the way really like this rap ship

20:51

the Moon, like you know what I'm saying. Like, So,

20:53

if I knew it was gonna be this, i'ld have prepared.

20:56

Bro, we just keep it regular.

20:58

Man.

20:59

Everyone thinks a friend.

21:01

Oh yeah, everyone's like.

21:04

The ship. You

21:09

know how many people are wrong saying

21:12

many people was sitting around thinking they man

21:15

had the Ellis.

21:16

Bars and but you know who you got to

21:18

think about in that respect.

21:19

Then that makes me respect Emma

21:21

Rie even more when you think the situations

21:23

like that because Emma rebatted at all on hold,

21:26

okay, King was playing the Emory situation

21:28

for people that don't know everything that's on record.

21:30

Now that's off.

21:31

I don't know. I was young, so I don't know what part

21:33

nigga played or nothing, but I know they had to go in

21:36

the way party for em Marie and Baltimore

21:38

going to do some time. Now. I always grew

21:41

up with eating. I'm gonna tell you let's go back back

21:43

in time. You remember they used to have this music

21:46

festival in New Orleans called the Gavin Yeah

21:48

yeah, report right. This is when

21:50

Rest in Peace prodigy Mab Deep just drop shook

21:53

ones. They debuted it that day that weekend.

21:55

We was out there. Jay was out there promoting. In my lifetime

21:58

this before ain't no nigga all at. So they

22:00

had a battle out there, like, yo,

22:02

whoever win the battle with five grand?

22:04

Mind you? I'm fifteen years old, So Emory

22:07

like, Yo, you're getting in that battle bleak. So

22:09

I'm like, fuck, no, hell no, you

22:12

bugging. I think it, Like, nigga, we ain't here to play,

22:14

We ain't come here on vacation. You're getting in that battle.

22:16

Nigga, you got put in that work. A nigga like you fifteen

22:19

years old. Imagine going back to Marshy with

22:21

five grand in your pocket. So you know me,

22:23

I'm like, oh shit, he right, I gotta go

22:25

get these verses together. So I'm like, yeah,

22:27

sign me up. Rest in Peace. Jam Master

22:29

J was one of the host, Rizza

22:32

was one of the host. This is Diddy, all of

22:34

them. I went up there, smoked all them nigga's

22:36

boots one to five grand, like

22:39

one to five grid like look at that. Emory like,

22:41

nigga, oh you are stack. You

22:44

put me off. Now

22:46

let's fast forward. Emery going away

22:48

party. I'm like, fuck it, I gotta be there. I

22:51

had this green Hi Nai.

22:52

I know money, Remember what years this is.

22:54

This probably was like ninety eight, ninety seven,

22:56

ninety eight, okay, all right, like you know what I mean.

22:59

I had a green Honda called at that time no

23:03

money.

23:04

Just knew I got a full tank of guys. I could

23:06

make it.

23:07

I got the ball toore, got

23:09

pulled over right down

23:11

the block from the club. They told

23:14

my car right down the

23:16

block from the club. Em Marie and all of them

23:18

had to come get me in all that word. They ain't

23:21

got the car for me. The next day we went to the party and

23:23

all that balled out. Then e Marie went to jail. So

23:25

then all that after that, I'm like, damn, what Emory

23:28

do?

23:28

Like what happened?

23:28

So you know, I start doing my research and

23:30

they just like niggas ain't do nothing. Niggas

23:33

was telling trying to bring the whole regime down to whatever

23:35

Emory said, fuck it, I take the way for it. This me.

23:38

It's like, wait, what that's definition.

23:40

That's triple og Like I'm OG's

23:43

before, but that's the definition

23:45

of it. Like, and then you bet

23:47

on your man to be like he gonna

23:50

make sure I'm good, not only

23:52

make sure I'm good, I'm gooder than good. Hoven

23:56

is good a thing like there is no good in

23:58

whole book they think felt good with six

24:00

O's me.

24:08

I'm like, okay, like

24:11

Nigga's good, super good.

24:13

So but the rumor is right, I didn't know.

24:16

We're gonna just say what's on record, not anything

24:18

that's off record. But the rumor was that

24:21

he got caught with something and he just said he like like you

24:23

just said.

24:24

And I don't think he ever got caught with

24:26

nothing.

24:26

I think niggas just you know, statements

24:28

and told and all indictments came

24:30

down. I don't think niggas physically got caught with

24:33

any type of twork or anything. So I was like, yeah,

24:35

I don't we go yeah, excuse

24:38

me, yeah, holy moly

24:40

only yeah, so you know, but just to even

24:43

better on your man, like that's niggas out here that

24:45

ain't even taking two days And it's like, what two

24:47

days you're gonna come get me. I'm telling

24:50

the night funk that you think he going to the club,

24:53

I'm telling nigga. See they

24:56

had benish shows for this ship first forty eight. They

24:58

like, yeah, I cannot watch that show

25:00

me neither neither is heartbreaking

25:03

to see these guys is just sit there and break

25:05

down for a fucking sprite and the so

25:08

as I see the motherfucker Pringles coming out,

25:10

I'm.

25:11

Like, man, my

25:14

advice all the time.

25:16

Stay out the game, man, stay out. McDonald's

25:19

like, like, one of my big homie said, is

25:21

Chicago one of my old g's, my man, big

25:24

roadie, Man, it's my dude. He always

25:26

said, I don't know why these dudes do crime

25:28

and scared to go to jail. Nigga, all your friends in

25:30

there, you're going to be with your

25:32

people.

25:33

What you're scared for?

25:34

Go link up, nigga. You say your gag, all

25:39

your friends in there, go link up, Like,

25:42

don't lock it, baby, So

25:46

don't do the crime. You can't do the time you're.

25:49

Let me ask you, man, because I know

25:51

how hard it is to be my friend, right, some of my

25:53

friends, like, you know, so many people.

25:55

Get at my friends to get at me man,

26:03

how many people called you for Beyonce tickets? Oh

26:05

my god, I

26:08

don't know how. I don't know tell

26:11

listen. For me to get beyond tickets

26:14

was a problem. My wife hit me like yo,

26:16

you know she and Philly on my birthday. I'm like, all

26:18

right, cool, what I

26:22

got to do with me? You

26:26

try to send me in there for the warm baby? So

26:29

you know, I fuck it. It's wife, I gotta

26:31

go. I got to hold again. So I hit all

26:34

the top dogs. I ain't gonna even say

26:36

no names all they

26:38

don't work for Ivy bark like I don't work for Ivy.

26:40

No, they ain't even say none of that. All

26:43

of them said, yo, yo blee, will you

26:45

bugging?

26:45

You know?

26:45

You gotta hit Jake. So I'm like,

26:48

I tried not to, but now

26:50

I gotta hit you.

26:52

I got you. I tried to go around say,

26:55

but now this message gotta go to you, like fucking

26:58

yo, big homie, I need some tickets for the show.

27:00

His wife he b there a now niggas

27:02

trying to turn me the ticket.

27:03

God, now, yo,

27:13

my man, I just need I just need

27:15

your tickets.

27:17

I said. He's like, yo, say, I

27:19

don't even want to hit you want to bother you.

27:21

I hit the whole staff. You got four hundred

27:23

people working in Rock Nation. I hit Oh. I hit

27:26

about twenty of them. They told me hit you. He said they

27:28

did, and I'm like yeah. He's

27:30

like yeah, but they don't work for be Like

27:34

yeah, So I'm like A right.

27:36

But let's get this clear, my nigga, I

27:39

don't hang with Bee. I don't know who

27:41

worked for me. Like, point

27:43

me in this direction, tell me go left,

27:46

I'm gonna go holler. So I

27:48

had to jump through some rings of fire. But I got the

27:50

tickets. But he definitely

27:53

was offended that I hit him from

27:55

Beyonce, like you

27:58

kidding me? I

28:03

told White for you about this. We

28:06

don't do that around these parks. You

28:09

know.

28:09

It's crazy.

28:09

Women don't even get the funny

28:11

brother brother.

28:12

In this, like nigger, you bugging

28:14

Beyonce? Ain't tickets?

28:18

Don got the uh.

28:25

One thing I wanted to ask you about was

28:28

early on it was like you Jah and

28:32

d m X was doing a lot of shows

28:34

together.

28:35

At Rest the Peace Man. I

28:38

mean, job, my brother.

28:39

You know, early

28:42

on early on, how was that connecting

28:44

with what? Because

28:47

that was like your first rap friends, right, was like I

28:49

believe.

28:50

I was Joah the first, and

28:52

then I met ex on Hard Knocked Life, you know what I

28:54

mean, and all of them, but Joe

28:56

was the first one. I remember we was

28:58

at some video shoot folds and even came

29:00

out shot the video on

29:02

Long Gally video

29:05

never even came out.

29:05

I forgot what song it was.

29:07

But I met Joe probably what ninety

29:09

six, ninety seven, and

29:12

we always been clicked since then, Like my

29:14

wife and his wife is mad cool, you know what I'm saying,

29:16

Like that's it. I always met my

29:18

dog like you know what I mean, Me and Ji roll hard

29:20

man, Like that's mydigga

29:22

man. And how was it connected with X

29:24

early x X was wold?

29:28

X was wowd okay X was wild.

29:30

I remember my album release party. I

29:32

had a party in the Tunnel.

29:33

You know. Tunnel was the wildless New York club.

29:35

You don't be in there by yourself. You need at least six

29:38

goons with you, and I mean niggas who on go mold

29:41

you X king by itself dolo

29:43

with a bottle of Hennessy with some red

29:46

shit mixed in it, Like yeah, I bought a bottle

29:48

of blood for my dog, like

29:50

oh shit, Like so you know, I always honed

29:52

that like X was different man, Like first

29:55

day I met Ex, he got us. I think Job

29:57

was only told the same story like

30:00

X got us the toe car, I mean

30:02

the car told by the police. Yeah. Yeah.

30:06

Then when we went to some girl, Cribby told

30:08

her, Yeah, which I got to eat. Gotta feed the dogs.

30:10

Dogs is hungry.

30:12

He made the fry some fish and some chicken for

30:14

the dogs. Dogs hungry.

30:16

Then we went back to the beach. This is the part Jill

30:18

left out in this story. Though Jo was fouled, he knew

30:21

what happened.

30:22

Yo, li'sten. Remember

30:24

this is the first day I met Ex.

30:26

I don't know what's going on in Bad Boy that Harlem

30:28

Circle, what's going on with them? You know the Halem

30:31

Brooklyn. I'm in the car with Axe making the

30:33

girl drop us off.

30:34

We get to the beach.

30:35

This is when the scooters was the big thing on

30:38

the beach. So Diddy and Bad Boy on

30:40

them, riding down on the beach. It come Max

30:42

on, yeah yeah, this so

30:46

he come Max on the scooter and Nigga

30:48

Axe jumped out. The cars started chasing

30:51

Mace. Yo, get

30:53

back here, wait to catch you. Nigga so

30:55

you know me, I'm in the back seat, like

30:58

what the fuck happened between him in mace? Like

31:00

who is this nigga? Matter of fact, he chasing

31:03

niggas and nobody the

31:06

first and nobody in this nigga

31:08

crew running behind him to stop

31:11

this nigga. So I'm like, whoever this nigga? Is he

31:13

a fisher? They ain't want no

31:15

smoke with this nigga. Niggas like yeah,

31:18

I hope he don't catch him. I

31:21

was in the studio where X he fell asleep. None of his crew

31:23

wro come up. Yeah, I'm telling you we had different

31:26

yo. Bro. He was on a hard knocked life tour. You know, you bring

31:28

your team, you get busy. A body get busy. You

31:30

jiggas was stabbing each other. Niggas

31:33

can get back to the bus, yo, Bro, you poked me my

31:36

side, that's gonna go. These rough riding

31:38

niggas is wiling yo,

31:41

yo. Listen between them and

31:43

Wou Tang, I could say they

31:46

probably was the deepest cruise I ever say. I remember going

31:48

to the Sauce Awards and Wou Tang pulled up probably

31:50

four hundred deep with niggas with all them shirts

31:52

tied around their face. They

31:54

had some niggs, but at

31:57

that time, yeah, at that time they had something to prove. Yeah,

31:59

it's like, who the fuck is easy? Four honey

32:01

deep with niggas were masks on. They could have

32:03

killed anyone know who the fuck they was. So

32:06

you know, hey, I respect them.

32:08

They they pulled up deep were

32:10

and definitely that's that's how they moved.

32:12

Man, gotta respect it.

32:14

So where

32:20

was you at when you heard the ex passed away?

32:24

I was home. I was home, man, I

32:26

was home, and I was definitely heartbroken by that.

32:28

You know, I wasn't that definitely wasn't expected.

32:31

You know, I know He've been battling his demons his whole

32:33

life, and it's something you know, it's hard

32:35

to get over. I lost a lot of loved ones to that same

32:37

demon. So you know, all

32:40

I could do is pray for the family, man's wife,

32:42

his kids and everything. You know, right, No, that's

32:44

real talk. Okay, you got that

32:46

record lined up all ship a

32:48

little more and more tricks.

32:49

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

32:54

First, if you ain't write that verse, yo,

32:57

that's what That's what I wanted to clarify.

32:59

Man, niggas, Let's get this shit

33:02

clear right here, I was fifteen

33:04

years old spitting that. Of

33:07

course I didn't write that every

33:09

other fucking verse. This is why I

33:11

love title check the credits,

33:14

man, if you don't see my last name MC

33:16

on there, and I owe you

33:18

some money, yo. But

33:21

when you listen to his first

33:23

verse, Jay right, is he really talking

33:25

about you?

33:26

Is that it describes our relationship?

33:29

Like at first they say you wrote

33:31

the song for Shahin, but

33:33

Shahin was too lit at that time,

33:36

and shout out Shahin too. I smoked his boots

33:38

back in the day's too. That's my brother. You know

33:41

what I'm saying. We battle back at Stable ten.

33:43

That's my brother. Okay, you know what I'm saying. You

33:45

know it's a lot of verses going on. That's

33:48

how I got my fire, you know what I mean? Around

33:51

to every project, bro everywhere.

33:53

We didn't care Brooklyn nig I was in Staten Allen

33:56

Niggas being Queen's niggas being everywhere

33:58

long Allen Hallow. We had

34:01

this shit court. Shut your mouth night. You'll

34:03

pull up in your projects, bring your best rappers

34:05

out. They don't want to spitch. Shut your mouth nigga,

34:07

like word rested peace, my man

34:09

Batman, my man bang.

34:11

We used to move around and just smoke niggas.

34:14

But let me so, let me ask you. So when you went to

34:16

the studio, was the whole song laid

34:18

up or no? Nah, see

34:21

listen put us on.

34:22

And this is the ill shit about even

34:25

him right in that, because how the whole

34:27

scenario happened. I was on the benches

34:29

early morning. It was yeah

34:31

in Marcie Jay coming through the projects.

34:34

It was him Clock Can't and t Strong

34:36

from original Flavor. So I'm just sitting

34:38

out there hustling early morning. Shit my little

34:41

bullshit jacks in my pocket and I'm like,

34:43

yo, hole, I get busy, my nigga, And he

34:45

like what this one? They used to call me Little

34:47

Dre because my brother named Dra Like little

34:49

Dre. You don't rhyme nigga out of help that bullshit.

34:52

So I'm like, nah, I'm telling you, son, I get busy.

34:54

So Klark was the one like, let

34:56

me hear some so I rhyme

34:59

and Clock will loo that jaylight, Yo, he

35:01

might got something. So holes like, yo, come with

35:03

me to the crib, come me upstairs. So

35:05

we get in the elevator, we go upstairs. He go

35:07

there his back. We go in his room. He's in five

35:10

five thirty four apart me five a

35:13

yep. So we

35:16

go in this back room or whatever. He

35:18

opened the notebook. He rip a piece of paper

35:20

out the notebook and just hands me the piece

35:22

of paper right in the guard on life bro

35:25

kill me Dad if I'm lying on flying, And he

35:27

said, as fast as you remember this piece of paper,

35:29

it's as fast as you be on no

35:32

beat, no nothing.

35:33

So I'm like, I take the piece of paper first of all.

35:35

Hoe. He used to write in the smallest

35:37

handwriting so you could barely understand it.

35:39

So go, I get the piece of paper, leave the crib,

35:42

fly downstairs to my crib. So I

35:44

rewrite the rhyme, and I'm spending it over

35:46

and over, just saying it in my mind, probably like our

35:49

tops on guard our tops.

35:51

I go back upstairs. They still there.

35:53

So I'm like, yo, I got it. He

35:55

was like, you remember the rhyme already, So I'm like, yeah,

35:58

I got it right now. So he was like, yo, I'm

36:00

a player. Beat.

36:00

Let's see if you could rhyme to the beat.

36:02

So he played the coming their age beat, and I spit

36:05

the verse to the beat, and we jumped in the car right

36:07

there when the clock King crib and did the song and

36:09

back.

36:10

Day, Yeah, okay, you just settled a lifelong

36:12

problem because people said that Hole never wrote

36:14

before, and you just settled it right now, he

36:21

wrote, I believe.

36:23

I believe that Reasonable Doubt album was

36:25

a lot of that ship was in these after that.

36:27

I think it was just free free will. After that.

36:30

Remember, Hole was rhyming it.

36:33

Like he didn't he get with Biggie and Biggie was doing

36:36

that.

36:36

He did that yeah, like and remember

36:39

Hope, you used to rhyme super fast, so back in the

36:41

day and the project niggas

36:43

to be like, nah, he ain't that nigga. I's

36:45

bugging. He the greatest ever. And then when

36:47

he slowed it down, it's just he took

36:50

it to the top, right, you know what I'm saying. Right,

36:53

So he he he

36:55

says to you because he's not so he

36:57

said, I want you to be my artist.

37:00

No, no, see, And that's the thing I do

37:02

the song. Remember the album not coming out,

37:04

it's just we did the song. You're not on priority,

37:07

it's no, it's nothing. He just doing the album.

37:09

Him and Clark Kent soleally out. They pocket

37:12

funding it they self one hundred percent. So

37:14

then they do they get a deal with Payday,

37:16

right, Heyday is what Reasonable

37:19

Doubt came out on with in My Lifetime and

37:21

all of that.

37:22

We was running around with that, my brother and

37:24

he was running around with that, you.

37:26

Know what I mean.

37:26

But the album didn't drop.

37:28

Probably we did the song in what

37:31

ninety four and it ain't come out to ninety

37:34

six, you know what I'm saying.

37:36

So because then My Lifetime came out before, but

37:38

that was independent complex that has the original

37:40

vinyl.

37:40

Yes, and then it ain't.

37:42

So that two year gap, I was running

37:44

around bugging in the hood wild like and

37:47

once Reasonable Doubt drop. That's why I'm

37:49

not on value one. I was too lig are

37:52

you too lit to? Hey, I missed it. I'm

37:54

missing that and that right there. Bro. If

37:57

I could say, you know, you don't regret much in life,

38:00

I regret is the story when he came to your house

38:02

and said you had a shorty with you?

38:04

Yeah, I regret that that tour

38:06

going on with Biggie, you know what I'm saying that.

38:08

So you had a tour going on with big you didn't know

38:11

he went on He clipped me.

38:13

He gave me the scissors for that, Like this, nigga wanna

38:15

miss the studio.

38:16

You're gonna miss this tour to nigga that

38:21

when I get home.

38:23

Holy listen, bleak man, you

38:26

know you've been on here before. But we we

38:28

started something that you have to be a part

38:30

of. We got to give your flowers to your face. You're

38:33

a legend, you.

38:43

Know what I mean.

38:44

Now, you wasn't at that Ja and Big DMX

38:46

battle, right, Nah, No.

38:48

Listen, I was at They clipped

38:50

me then too. I

38:54

was there rest in peace big al right.

38:56

That whole day was weird because Hope

38:58

came and got me. I was in heightst kicked

39:01

me up all that day y'all. He

39:04

picked me up from high school right.

39:08

Came and got me. It was source money

39:10

in the car and Jay and he like, Yo, going

39:14

uptown. I remember.

39:18

We was gooms then, man, so you know I'm in school,

39:21

got that thing on. We were going uptown. Okay, cool,

39:24

straight, I'm ready. So I was like, yo,

39:26

you got a gun or you're like all day

39:28

every day You're like, oh, like okay,

39:30

I'm glad I got you there. Let's roll so boom

39:33

we get uptown, so he

39:36

wanted the battle big Alow. He

39:38

was supposed dang was setting up the battle for him

39:40

in Big al Word. And he and

39:43

he had the bag of money in the car, like your bleak

39:45

in the car, get the bag of money. So I get the bag.

39:47

You know, I got the slammer. So he like, yeah,

39:49

niggas got the money of what what we're doing? So niggas

39:52

like how much we talking?

39:54

So I was like, man, I got a hundred grand yo, bleek, give me the

39:57

bag. My mom. I'm like, so fuck

39:59

it.

39:59

Hundred grid on my back.

40:01

And you didn't know he gave you the bag?

40:03

You didn't like and I got a gun on me.

40:05

I could have laid. I'm like, these niggas

40:07

love me. They that's my

40:10

new They trust me. You in

40:12

there, niggas ain't no getting clipped. They put

40:14

a hondred grand on your back, nigga, not a hundred

40:16

bricks. They can put a hundred bricks on your

40:18

back. They don't love you. They

40:22

don't love you, my nigga, you fucked

40:24

up. They put a hundred grand on your

40:26

bad. It's a different story, you know what I'm saying. So

40:30

yeah, but I guess they ain't match

40:32

that. They couldn't match that. That didn't

40:35

happen. It didn't happen. So then they left

40:37

and went uptown. After that, I went back to Brooklyn,

40:40

you know what I'm saying. I jetted olo like,

40:42

oh, I gotta go get some money us and got running around one

40:44

hundred grand. I gotta go get she ain't

40:46

right. I can't hang with y'all like this, So

40:49

you know, I went back to the hood. And

40:52

then they went to the Bronx and that's when that DMX

40:54

battle. All that should happened in the same day.

40:56

Wow, So he was supposed to battle big

40:58

Al.

40:58

And end up battling back living crazy too.

41:01

And did they battle for money or.

41:02

That was nothing? Nah, he just went in there and wing it.

41:04

I don't even think they was really I don't even think it was

41:06

a battle. I think they just was rhyming. And

41:09

you know that it just ate it into a battle.

41:11

You know how the streets go, you know, yeah,

41:14

you know how they do throw that fuel in there,

41:16

gash you up. Holy

41:19

moment. Yeah, there's

41:21

been a lot of classic moments will hold Man

41:23

that I ever

41:25

told you how the story by niggas not wanting

41:28

to pump gas.

41:29

Oh you're in a cold winner.

41:34

One hope for real, one man, I hope you

41:36

used to do bullshit us that

41:39

shigga niggas they wanted.

41:41

So we went the showing Syracuse,

41:44

and I ain't gonna fright. It was knee deep

41:46

snow. My gee, like, we truck it

41:48

through that snow to get to the show. So

41:51

we in there, we performed, We get out

41:54

hold. So nobody wanted to drive. Everybody drunk.

41:56

Remember I'm too young. I'm fifteen years

41:58

old. I ain't got no light since in the first I

42:01

cannot drive, so they ain't asking me to drive.

42:03

So I knew I was off.

42:04

But then we get to the gas station. You

42:07

know, they got the heat on in the car by chilling

42:09

coat off. Nobody wanted

42:11

to get on pump gas. So Hope like, I gotta get

42:13

out on pump gas up right, So he

42:16

get out pump gas. He went in the trunk and

42:18

everybody coat was in the trunk. He went in the trunk

42:20

and grabbed his coat, jumped

42:22

in the car, rolled all four windows

42:25

down and started doing like a

42:27

bus. Yeah,

42:30

niggas ain't want to And I was good because

42:32

he had you know, dam in them

42:34

in the back. I'm in between them. So it's

42:36

like these two big ass niggas. Yeah, I hope me

42:38

down, Let's go

42:41

biggie. So I was kind of cool, but he

42:43

froze Nigga's ass on that. Then, trust

42:46

me, he could have filmed frozen before he came.

42:53

You know, at one point, I'm not going

42:55

to a lot of y'all.

42:57

At one point, it felt like if it wasn't

42:59

down at a Rockefeller party,

43:02

you didn't have fun in the industry.

43:04

I was outside of looking in you.

43:06

Was inside stuffing. It

43:09

was on all the.

43:12

It's very true. What I'm

43:14

saying is for.

43:15

The average person, they didn't like Rockefeller

43:17

really seemed like some place to be at.

43:20

What's that like?

43:21

The ultimate record label at that time described.

43:23

That for us, Yo, listen, Rockefeller

43:27

was the best label history, and

43:29

I mean the original staff

43:32

talking about when you're talking

43:34

about g robas hip

43:36

Hop, Lenny Has, Bobby Dash,

43:38

dang Dash, Chaco pil Grip, fucking

43:41

Daramacintog. You know, like

43:45

at that time we was on seventy We

43:48

wasn't on one seventy barrel. We was on Dean

43:51

Streets. Okay, okay, okay, okay, Yes,

43:55

Okay, continue the original staff

43:58

man, you know, Shary, you

44:00

know what I mean, Like that's what

44:02

it was nation though, right, No, most

44:04

of these people running the industry gee robersitting

44:06

and hip hop is hip Hop's is nineteen eighty

44:09

seven, seventy eight whatever. But they manage

44:11

what Wayne Nick, Kanye Kanye they

44:14

you know what I'm saying, Our branch running all

44:16

this shit over here, they're there. Everybody

44:18

from the Rockefeller branch is

44:21

head executives somewhere else. Man that

44:23

like, and that's the knowledge of all of us sticking

44:25

together and learning together, you know what

44:28

I'm saying.

44:28

And I got said. I

44:30

didn't plan like them.

44:33

Thank god. The raps work. Baby, you're yeah,

44:35

let me get my first drink.

44:36

And he

44:42

wasn't drinking.

44:43

I was just I was just you know, every

44:46

year before my birthday, I do that like almost every

44:48

year, like a fat Yeah. You could just go create

44:50

crazy for my birthdayes boy crazy yeah yeah, yah,

44:52

white boy crazy.

44:54

What are we going this year?

44:55

I'm going to Lake Como tomorrow.

44:58

You're going to Lake Como to Momo. Yes,

45:01

it ain't like Cuomo. It's Como. It's not Cuomo

45:03

like that. No, r

45:07

yeah yeah, yeah, no, m'en

45:10

fly okay, super

45:13

dope, the homie what's his name

45:15

now on the tequila now he lives out George

45:17

Clooney.

45:17

Yeah, I gotta go to his restaurant. I got me in

45:20

his restaurant.

45:21

You're getting big money is in another brackt

45:23

now, man, gotta have an old conversation.

45:32

You're drinking now you haven't drunk yet before.

45:35

Quick Timas livet me have one drink before quick

45:37

Thomas line?

45:38

Yes, yes,

45:42

Can I get another shout out to Igloo with this

45:44

run DM live? Hopefully we got a drink.

45:46

Champs one shout out to run d sent

45:48

this over.

45:50

Shout out man the blue Box cooling

45:52

joint, Yo

45:57

ship, Maybe you got

46:00

to take a little slow nothing

46:02

best.

46:02

Slow down, don't don't, don't let us carry you

46:05

out.

46:06

I got shipped Jews.

46:09

So bleak.

46:11

During COVID this versus

46:14

thing.

46:14

Was humongous, humongous,

46:16

humongous. And then the world they

46:19

get to my my show is over.

46:22

When they get to my show is over? Okay, hold

46:24

on, so tell us ship Swiss

46:26

highlight ad me. Okay,

46:30

so how did this start?

46:32

Did you Els call you out?

46:34

Oh no, no, no.

46:34

Duel was on live and someone asked

46:36

him about bleak and then he.

46:38

Said, he said, I don't want that smoke.

46:39

He said, you ain't want that smoke.

46:41

He say, I ain't want that smoke.

46:42

And then you went up to rock Nation the next day.

46:44

What did you do?

46:44

No, I ain't do niggas that he was promoting my artist

46:46

ship.

46:47

I went on Twitter and said something, and you know, they hyped

46:49

it up and then he went back and forth and then it

46:51

was smoking.

46:52

Then I went up there and made it official. You want that smoke?

46:54

Highlight at me. Nigga were here, and you

46:56

know Joe else, he

46:59

know me, man.

47:00

I know Jewels from before the dip set,

47:02

days before Rockefeller even popped

47:04

off.

47:04

He was in I think, in the group Draft Picks.

47:07

He was managed by one of my homies that used

47:09

to be cool with my manager and used to be in the

47:11

studio with me when I was working my first album.

47:14

You know what I mean, Jewel's was around. He was the homie

47:16

matter of fact him And fuck

47:19

is this nigga name from Harlem? Billy Bathgate.

47:23

Billy Bathgate was in the motherfucking group.

47:26

Yeah, man, so sat Tanna was around,

47:28

you know before the dip set days

47:30

That's why I always thought when it

47:33

was the drama, he never shitted on

47:35

me. You know this, He never said nothing

47:37

about me, you know what I'm saying. Like, and I always respected

47:39

him for that.

47:40

But I think like Jewels kind of like avoided

47:42

all of it, didn't He like he.

47:43

Was fop of shit. Oh yeah, everybody was popis shit.

47:46

No, he's popis shit. Everybody

47:48

was popis shit. We always popis shit. But it was fun

47:50

times. Man. Well, I'm gonna be honest in

47:52

everyone's respect.

47:54

You kept saying earlier, you said this.

47:55

Earlier, you kept saying, because I'm on my Brooklyn year, they was on

47:57

their Harlem shit. You were saying that back then,

48:00

saying that from even Dame day they

48:04

separated it. Dame did that, man, Dame

48:07

did that ship. Dag Dame did

48:09

that. He made it. I'm

48:11

a tire his ass to the trade tracks because

48:13

he fucking did that. And I told these niggas

48:16

this ship about to be over. Nobody

48:18

wanted to hear me though. Niggas thought

48:20

I was fucking bugging And no, I'm

48:23

quiet. No, don't fucking be quiet, nigga.

48:28

I told niggas, Yo, listen,

48:30

y'all bugging this ship about to be over. Y'all want

48:32

to separate it, Okay,

48:35

I'm trying to keep this ship together, baby like cause

48:37

the big homie over here telling me the

48:40

scissors they coming. Yeah,

48:44

niggas say lit its like nobody wanted to listen.

48:46

It's like, okay, and

48:49

now it's over. Everybody listening,

48:52

don't fuck got in yo

48:55

a bunch of lemon drops. So I love

48:58

everybody like Jimmy, that's my bigga.

49:00

Before all the drama everything,

49:02

me and jim and Zeke used to

49:04

gamble a lot and Baseline I was losing

49:06

a lot of money. These niggas, they was losing money to me and

49:08

my niggas. We was cool. And then after Blue

49:11

it was fuck niggas is drama. I till

49:13

niggas murder death Tail was like, oh ship, I

49:15

ain't knowna have to get on that.

49:16

And then it was that now we're cooler, get like, it's

49:18

cool that rap ship.

49:19

All that Baseline studios, all that Baseline

49:22

studio. Man, we was in there putting in major

49:24

work. Freaky, all of them, the whole

49:26

dip set man even on Cosso, all

49:28

of them was in there with us. Man, only one I never

49:30

got to meet out. They crew is hell

49:33

Round, that's it. Ja

49:35

was up there with us, but hell Round never got to

49:37

me. Hell Ren. I went to baseline,

49:40

used to go to baseline a lot before. You

49:43

ain't hanging us like

49:45

he wasn't that Like, niggas gonna come slight

49:48

dot what's

49:55

up?

49:55

And I was like, oh they be fed.

49:58

Yeah, Brooklyn and Philly

50:01

was on this side because get

50:04

the Philly niggas. No, no, no, no, okay,

50:06

not gonna let them slide them. Niggas was playing

50:08

both sides of the fence. Blood listening.

50:11

Beans got so hot songs with Cam Freeway

50:14

on Jel's out. This

50:23

is my Brothers show

50:25

with these niggas yesterday being

50:29

Beans talking Beans. Want to do a podcast

50:31

with me just telling old ship and ship with the story,

50:34

you know what I'm saying. I told him I was gonna you know what I

50:36

mean, We're going to off care. We got a couple of conversations on

50:38

camera. Listen the money went first,

50:40

but yo,

50:43

but I just was with them, you know, Freeway as my

50:45

mother fucking brother, Like listen.

50:47

Okay, you skipping over the day. So basically,

50:49

at that time, it was a.

50:51

Lot that a lot of both sides going on because

50:53

Beans and Free and all them they

50:56

fucked with Dame Hall. Remember my loyalty

50:58

was always wear holes, so it was always I'm

51:00

on this side. I used to tell niggas, y y'all,

51:02

niggas dipping over there, niggas going yo, y'all.

51:04

Bug it. Let

51:07

me be the devil's advocate advocate

51:09

because that was kind of confusing,

51:12

right because Jay is the

51:14

ultimate not hater, right, He's not He's

51:16

not a hater.

51:16

He doesn't care if you get money.

51:18

But the thing about it is like when you

51:20

was when people were at Rockefeller, Dame was like kind

51:22

of more of the day to day person. Yes, So if

51:24

you didn't know, you was bobably around

51:27

Dame and not knowing that this turmorial

51:29

was pursuing, So what's that fear

51:31

to the artist or or you should have been

51:34

more aware.

51:36

I told niggas man ask

51:40

yo, listen AXPD crack

51:42

Ax, Freeway, as Beans as

51:45

Dame. I had a solo conversation with

51:47

each of them. I had a conversation with all

51:49

of us together. I remember when Dang

51:51

when who was doing the Black album and

51:54

we did MSG and Dang was

51:56

up there.

51:56

They clipped this part out.

51:57

The DVD miraculously would

52:00

have left this part. But yeah, dam in there

52:02

telling niggas, Yeah all, y'all gonna retire like

52:04

this. I'm a ron know

52:07

the fuck We ain't wait

52:09

wait wait, why are you lying to these niggas.

52:11

No, we ain't whole retirement like

52:13

this because hove is that nigga until

52:16

we spit them nigga baars,

52:18

we ain't retired it like this. Man, y'all

52:21

better hope y'all got a retirement plan.

52:23

Put this shit together. You see him

52:26

he getting out of here. He telling y'all

52:28

black album fave the Black is over. Y'all

52:30

gotta get this shit together. Don't listen

52:32

to this. Nigga would have listened to you,

52:35

but we'd have kept this shit together. The boat

52:37

when that had a hole in it, we win. The fuck

52:39

is sunk.

52:40

Damn, that's real.

52:41

Like they'd have came with me. My nigga Ida been

52:43

like Moses. You heard me bringing all

52:46

the animals more.

52:48

I got the boat, I got the boat, or

52:50

sell this shit you are. But niggas

52:52

wasn't listening to me.

52:54

They wanted to go on that side and go and I'm

52:56

telling them they got the connections.

52:59

He got the bad the bad,

53:01

bring the connection so we could

53:03

buy the connection. You feel me, Damn.

53:06

I never looked at it like that. Yeah the fuck

53:08

who you know? I got money, they

53:11

gonna know me right, all

53:14

right, that's real. And I used to tell niggas

53:16

man, I swear I tried to keep it together.

53:19

I wasn't the hated like on that Brook

53:21

Like I used to talk to you in truth, like

53:23

yeah, fuck niggas. And then I go back to the office

53:25

and be like, nah, man, this can't be what

53:34

I've got, no other skill. What you think

53:36

I would do? Go late carpet niggas fuck

53:41

later, you

53:43

know, you know it was one of the people

53:46

I'm sorry, I'm bouncing all around. Was one of the people

53:48

I felt real, real sorry for. Right. Uh,

53:51

he's a come to my studio of the hood life.

53:53

His name is big Face Gary right, big

53:57

down. Now, let me tell you something about big Face. Big

54:00

Face came to my studio and I would talk to him about

54:02

anything and

54:04

he would be like, yeah because Rockefeller, like

54:07

you told, told him about baseball,

54:09

and he'd be like, yeah, you know, Jay's gonna throw the first

54:11

Prince tomorrow.

54:12

And then you'd be like, Yo, you know you know

54:14

Messy is gonna play soccer. He's like, we

54:16

got a booth in there, like he could

54:19

relate everything to me.

54:21

Everything in his life consists

54:24

that we're gonna go be at lunch, let's go by the go

54:26

by the building.

54:27

We're rocket for this.

54:28

And I'm like, yo, And I told him one day, I said,

54:30

yo, yo, Gary, I said what happens

54:33

if Rockefeller ever be over? And

54:35

he looked at me like as if

54:37

I was the oneing violation. He

54:39

looked at me like Rockefella will never.

54:42

I was with him, bro, and telling you he

54:45

came to the hood lad that day where they closed

54:47

the office.

54:48

I never seen a poppy's

54:51

face like that in

54:53

my life.

54:54

Yo, Bro.

54:55

He was crushed.

54:57

Listen helling me both, Bro. I never

54:59

thought we were so crusted. I didn't even

55:01

say I told you so. You know how you know

55:03

I want a nigga come and see you. I

55:06

told you so. And I just looked at him like it's

55:09

gonna give good. Got just gave him off a

55:11

fist pump. But you said you was with him,

55:13

You didn't think it was.

55:14

I ain't wanted to be over, bro.

55:15

Like we still had a lot to accomplish,

55:18

man, you know what I'm saying, There still was a lot of talent

55:20

there, Like think old Skino

55:22

and Sparks never got off, man, Pete

55:24

never got on, you know what I mean. It's a lot of niggas

55:27

who didn't get a chance, caught up in grown

55:29

men bullshit, you know what I mean, just to prove a point.

55:32

And it's like you got people lives in the middle

55:34

of that, you know what I'm saying. So I was

55:36

crushed by that too, Bro. That shit wasn't a joke,

55:38

Like it was like, damn man, the team, Like

55:41

remember, I built my whole life since

55:43

fourteen years old Rockefeller

55:46

the time I was what twenty eight almost

55:48

thirty, This shit was Detokos over. I was like,

55:50

this is all I know. You getting me no more Baseline

55:53

niggas my hangout. Well, I'm gonna go now,

55:56

gotta go back to Marsie. Yeah, we gotta

55:58

shoot again niggas soon like

56:00

yeah. Like so that shit changed

56:03

up everything, man, and then everybody went their own

56:05

way. And like I said, I

56:08

told these niggas like when I knew

56:11

the final straw was

56:13

at the change clothes video. Man, Me

56:17

and Dame had a major argument because he was

56:19

telling something the we

56:22

always argue Me and Dame always argue

56:24

because it was just like he used to be living

56:27

on cloud nine and it's like I was

56:29

on reality. Like I always say that

56:31

niggas in the industry pop every pill

56:34

under the sun, but that reality pill.

56:36

This niggas don't want to accept when it's

56:38

over. You know what I'm saying. Niggas would be in denial

56:41

and fight against that shit. It's like, bro, you gottaxt

56:43

niggas on fuck with you dog is on, Well,

56:45

you gotta do something else. And it was that like

56:48

he was basically telling niggas, Yeah, we're

56:50

gonna fix this, and I'm looking at him

56:52

like, bro, this shit over, and he looked

56:54

at me and said, Yo, you always

56:56

going to gatinst everything I say, Like, you got

56:59

a problem here. If you don't want to be

57:01

with Rockefeller, nigga, I give you your walking

57:03

papers. You know me, Like, nigga,

57:06

you ain't got the power to do that. I'm

57:08

not on Rockefeller because of you. You

57:11

crazy. And I remember like they broke

57:13

it up. Security came in there and cleared us

57:15

out and they whole got window what happened,

57:19

and from there that conversation. I knew that

57:22

ship was over. Blood got to make a new You

57:24

gotta make new plans now, blizzle right.

57:27

I ain't gonna lie. I was a part of one of the conversations.

57:30

Oh okay, I was a part of one of the conversations.

57:32

Were on private jet Yo

57:35

that up.

57:39

They most got it. We most got kicked off that jet

57:41

too, smoking smoking.

57:45

I ain't gonna lie. I thought I thought THET was

57:47

listening to the argument too. I thought THET was into

57:49

it. The POTS was like, oh shit, I forgot what

57:52

we was even arguing. Because remember

57:54

me and you, we had performed back and forth.

57:56

We had this song for some we basically did it versus

57:59

more versus me and you did it and

58:01

then it was a beautiful show.

58:03

I feel like we was eating and they a coming

58:05

to you. Was like you just kept doing a whole

58:07

ship last night and Normy killed

58:09

you and you was like, and then everyone else

58:12

is sleep on the jet.

58:13

So Dame is like bright Nory and

58:15

then you like righte nor and I'm like, oh ship

58:18

caught between.

58:20

And listen to me, y'all,

58:22

man, I know it was a major called

58:25

you pus.

58:27

You gotta pack it up. I said, wait a

58:29

minute, somebody else, wake

58:32

up, Like I'm kicking freeway,

58:34

I'm throwing at somebody. Niggas

58:38

is like now they want to snow like

58:43

they wanted to make sure they know I'm sleeping. Used

58:46

to go at time man, because Dang,

58:48

like Dang was a true believer man,

58:50

but he just was. He was a he was

58:53

beyond belief man. And I love him for that

58:55

and I hated him for it too. Now

58:57

for you if it felt great, and that's what.

58:59

I was about to say.

59:00

And now without having somebody on your

59:02

team to fight for you that way, you miss a

59:04

Dang pressent, You miss a Dan. Know what I'm saying

59:06

that I respect them, Like at the end of the day,

59:09

I love Dang, Biggs, all of them. They

59:11

changed my life. Without them, man, I wouldn't

59:14

be sitting here right now.

59:15

You feel me Like like

59:18

that's real talk.

59:19

So they saved

59:21

my life, bro, Like that's

59:25

real shit. They played the part in that too.

59:28

So let me ask you why we're on this before we get

59:30

over there. You know, I've been watching a lot of Dames

59:32

interviews. He's very active when

59:34

it show. I don't know this

59:37

has been this has been a rumor that this

59:41

has been a rumor that's been floating around forever, right,

59:44

and I believe this is the first time I believe either one

59:46

of them, or at least Dame, has actually addressed

59:48

this. And he was talking about Aliyah and

59:50

he was like, he was like, yeah, I think that, you

59:52

know, the saltiness

59:55

kind of started that Jay.

59:58

I believe it's talking to a lee. Then

1:00:01

they stopped talking and then Dame came

1:00:04

in.

1:00:05

I ain't have no money. Then these was them Hampton

1:00:07

party. I wasn't invited.

1:00:09

I respect that.

1:00:11

Yeah, respect, I ain't have no money then like

1:00:14

that, that shit took place in the Hamptons.

1:00:16

I wasn't there be Like, so, I can't really speak

1:00:18

on something I don't know.

1:00:19

I don't recall.

1:00:20

Shet ever win Aliah like that was

1:00:22

always dang lady me God blessed, you know

1:00:24

what I'm saying. So I don't know where

1:00:26

that angle come from. But I don't know where any

1:00:29

angle come from. With Dame still speaking

1:00:31

on the situation that shit almost

1:00:33

thirty years ago. Bro like niggas

1:00:36

is on the new and better and other things

1:00:38

like Jahov done created six seven

1:00:40

different businesses since the fall of Rockefeller.

1:00:43

You know, what I'm saying, and it's like we're still talking

1:00:45

about that he got a song call, but what we're

1:00:47

talking about like you feel me?

1:00:49

It's like, come on, man, you gotta move on something

1:00:51

else, man, Like gotta grow man.

1:00:54

Life is about growing, be evolved, man,

1:00:57

evolve with dissolved man.

1:00:58

That's real shit.

1:01:01

I'm ready for Thomas by the way, three cents

1:01:04

from I'm toasted up.

1:01:07

But not to like I'm like a

1:01:09

right, let's see what these characters put together, which

1:01:11

I put together overhead. You gotta explain

1:01:14

to him to rule, yeah, because you never played time,

1:01:16

so we don't give you two choices.

1:01:18

I played this this,

1:01:24

I'm a third host. I played this. Okay,

1:01:26

okay, right, let's

1:01:29

go yes shot. If you don't want

1:01:31

to, let's take a shot. Let's

1:01:34

yes, yes, Yo. This

1:01:36

is fucked up. Even everybody

1:01:38

forgot how I'm

1:01:41

you know what I mean? I mean, Hey, I'm part of the crew Man.

1:01:45

President okay, o Nah, Florida.

1:01:52

Jay or Biggs Jay

1:01:55

okay, Big Daddy

1:01:57

Kane or Cool J. Can't

1:02:00

we already how it's gonna go?

1:02:01

Brooklyn, Brooklyn,

1:02:03

let me tell you so there's no.

1:02:11

But yeah, why not carry Brooklyn

1:02:16

always answers.

1:02:17

Not let me.

1:02:18

But I'm not even thinking about.

1:02:21

Automatic.

1:02:22

That's what.

1:02:23

That's not the reason I

1:02:26

get fur far Brooklyn people together and they

1:02:28

can't go against Brooklyn. You know

1:02:30

what they wanted to Brooklyn?

1:02:34

Okay, okay, yeah, how they're

1:02:36

gonna do Biggie twice they did Biggier

1:02:38

d MX No, noaclady did Biggie

1:02:41

TUPAC or DMX we did. We didn't

1:02:43

do bigg we did. That was h

1:02:45

it's big. I thought you meant Biggie.

1:02:49

Wait, wait, who is the what and what who?

1:02:52

I don't know what I just said, right, he

1:02:55

knew the first one here, the first one. I thought it was Biggie

1:02:57

the first.

1:02:57

No, I said, Biggs jay z Er Biggs

1:03:00

too your bigs Like, okay,

1:03:03

so now this one is bigger.

1:03:05

D m X Biggie okay,

1:03:07

e p M d or run DMC, run

1:03:10

DMC. They had a bigger impact.

1:03:13

You can do the next one, beans or

1:03:15

freeway.

1:03:17

Me a shot.

1:03:18

Okay, take

1:03:21

the shot with you.

1:03:22

By the way, welcome

1:03:30

back, okay, yeah, this guy, this

1:03:32

is this is this guys, welcome back the

1:03:34

whole time like the

1:03:36

devil. Yeah, come on, you

1:03:39

have to dream, you have to.

1:03:41

Drink that wasn't between.

1:03:45

A gonna tell the guys keep

1:03:48

bringing out person naught

1:03:50

by Nature or ONX naughty

1:03:53

by Nature because the tratch. Yeah,

1:03:55

definitely tratch. Come on, man, you

1:03:57

got got them verses? Tell

1:03:59

me, yo, chill, see you a DJ.

1:04:02

You don't answer this question, tell

1:04:04

me the third member name Onyx.

1:04:10

Okay, who said that? Crazy?

1:04:13

Yeah, okay, that

1:04:15

that can be a trivia. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah,

1:04:17

some hip hop ship. Okay,

1:04:22

y'all just picked latinos on this one. It's going on with this

1:04:26

just mad racist man, p d c

1:04:29

on Joel's mad

1:04:32

mad racist Joe Lo ts over

1:04:34

PD Crack. Yeah, nah,

1:04:37

you want to be listen, p D Crack,

1:04:39

got your phone number, Chill. I

1:04:41

know Joe Lot since Joel Ot was just

1:04:43

about ten years old, Get out of here. Yeah, Joelots

1:04:46

grew up in my aunt building him my cousin

1:04:48

live in Proof for all of them back to Brooklyn.

1:04:51

Yeah, he's from

1:04:53

Cooper Projects.

1:04:54

Man.

1:04:54

I watched them grow up, you know what I'm saying.

1:04:58

So it's a difference like p D fan, but

1:05:00

Joel was like Joelle, come on, I watched them grow

1:05:02

up.

1:05:03

They both as a motherfucker MJ

1:05:05

or Prince.

1:05:09

MJ.

1:05:10

Okay.

1:05:11

I know this is gonna sound a little funny, but did

1:05:13

you smell Michael Jackson?

1:05:14

Joe?

1:05:17

So, I don't know person

1:05:22

I've ever been starstruck for. That's why I'm not in

1:05:24

there, because I was just standing there still

1:05:26

all like, yo, fucking

1:05:29

hole really got Michael Jackson at

1:05:31

Summer Jail, like in the back

1:05:33

with us.

1:05:34

I was blown away.

1:05:35

So when I was making Grimy, Janet Jackson

1:05:37

was filming.

1:05:39

She was recording right next door, so in order

1:05:41

for her to walk in, she wanted everyone

1:05:43

to walk out the session. So it was me, Chris,

1:05:45

Lighty, Farrell, ray J.

1:05:48

I don't know why ray J and Brandy was there, but they were ray

1:05:51

J and Brandy and Chill.

1:05:53

So the security walks in and says, Janet

1:05:56

Jackson won't walk in unless y'all

1:05:58

walk out. So I said Janet Jackson,

1:06:01

and he's like Janet Jackson and Chris is like funk

1:06:03

that.

1:06:03

I ain't.

1:06:04

Chris like funk that. How much does she pay? Because

1:06:06

I know she ain't.

1:06:07

Paid more than me.

1:06:08

I said, listen, Chris, I

1:06:11

don't ask for a lot of things, I said. But when

1:06:13

Penny from Good Times.

1:06:14

After something, I get the funk up and

1:06:16

I moved Christ and

1:06:19

he had not moved, and I had

1:06:21

I literally have to say Penny from Good

1:06:23

Times.

1:06:23

I didn't even say Janet jacks right.

1:06:25

I said, you know niggas had that crush on a

1:06:27

penny, but.

1:06:30

Smell. You don't get to smell Michael Jackson, No,

1:06:33

Jesus cribed man. He

1:06:37

might have smelled what you have smelled. Christ,

1:06:41

know what don't

1:06:44

to say. I might have said, come

1:06:47

here.

1:06:54

The other day. I

1:06:57

ain't gonna lie.

1:06:58

The other day Joe

1:07:00

came to the juice ball and I was like, what

1:07:02

you got on?

1:07:03

And He's just like and

1:07:06

I started to do that like when I get

1:07:09

like what you got on? I'm like, I got that on?

1:07:11

Exactly want to smelling

1:07:13

like you what

1:07:17

a male or eve eve

1:07:20

Man even more people's man shout

1:07:22

out with the lovely eve Man. I knew even she

1:07:24

was even destruction. Yeah that's right, same here,

1:07:26

rough riders man.

1:07:28

I knew when she was sided to doctor Dre.

1:07:30

Oh ship. Now I don't know that you did a song Philly.

1:07:33

Straight out of Philly, Doctor Dre and them people call

1:07:35

me even destruction.

1:07:37

Scott Storts was producing it and mail

1:07:39

Man. Yeah, I go back that far. Yeah, I'm

1:07:42

a legend. I've been allegend. I'm sorry.

1:07:44

It ain't about me my back. Did

1:07:48

you smell her? I

1:07:51

love it?

1:07:52

That's right, Madic

1:07:56

or ready to die. You're

1:08:00

gonna take a shot.

1:08:01

Shot ship ship.

1:08:05

When I chased

1:08:07

that one with some water.

1:08:08

Your niggas trying to kill all these niggas think you are old

1:08:10

nigga blee. I'm

1:08:13

just basing it on his next question. So the

1:08:16

Pladium you've been never Bladi?

1:08:19

Okay, Man, I watched Joven

1:08:21

Biggie perform in the Palladium.

1:08:22

That's right. Kane Shaw Jeddy

1:08:24

Kane was just here. He just saw us about that. Hm

1:08:27

hmm.

1:08:29

Fab Or Jada Kiss, don't go Brooklyn.

1:08:31

Jada Man, Jada, Jada. He

1:08:34

went against Brooklyn. Yeah, Jaya, you

1:08:36

do do that all right?

1:08:37

Jada?

1:08:37

Fab cool? But Jada to Homie, Okay,

1:08:43

that's what I gotta be some bullshit. He laugh.

1:08:46

Before your your mother even

1:08:49

known make these questions. It's a Dominican

1:08:51

in the Columbia right now. O

1:08:54

g one or Dame Dash O

1:08:58

g one? Okay, Trick

1:09:02

Daddy or Rick Ross, Trick

1:09:08

Brown here, Trick Hey,

1:09:11

Trick ba Homie Trick. I haven't

1:09:13

been in cocoas with Trick.

1:09:16

He smoke his bunt though, brother.

1:09:22

He's my brother. Yeah, he's smoking them blunt.

1:09:25

We smoke separate, hang together, smoke

1:09:27

separate. Chi. That's my brother on

1:09:30

this forecast. He understands, he knows,

1:09:33

Yo, you'se a fool man. Ready?

1:09:36

Okay, you want to go to this one ice Cuban Scarfish,

1:09:40

ice Cube, French

1:09:42

Montana or Skinny Joe?

1:09:43

Who the fucking Skinny Joe?

1:09:45

You know who he is?

1:09:47

Double all the way up remixed of course,

1:09:49

Skinny Joe. Okay, Okay, Nigga said,

1:09:51

Skinny Joe, I mean.

1:09:52

We gotta start, you gotta stop.

1:09:55

That's medium Joe there, nah

1:09:57

he he he he like he's about to

1:09:59

wear medium. See he's

1:10:01

about to wear bugle boy jeans.

1:10:03

Yo, chill by those bugle boys

1:10:06

boys. He's

1:10:08

the shop in Alexander. Who Now I

1:10:10

shot to Alexander Pacific, Yo, Mann,

1:10:12

I remember old ship Pacific, Nigga,

1:10:15

I shot your bowl. David Busters, Nigga,

1:10:17

not David Busters, I mean Buster Brown

1:10:20

Brown, David.

1:10:29

Brooklyn for this like this ship

1:10:31

man, I used to be this early,

1:10:33

not David Busters.

1:10:34

And I need a lot of flashing lights and girls

1:10:36

in front of me to contain this liquor.

1:10:39

Okay for

1:10:41

real?

1:10:42

Or Timberland Timbo?

1:10:46

Was this that your bitch, Timbo? That's

1:10:48

your man? Hey

1:10:51

the Hey pipe. Even if

1:10:53

you don't understand, you know what I mean?

1:10:55

Okay, so good, I'm

1:10:58

gonna let you get that one a z or called

1:11:00

Mega a Z a Z from

1:11:02

Brooklyn.

1:11:03

Baby, look at that, I'm saying, look at took me one

1:11:05

second right back, he

1:11:07

regrets for one second

1:11:09

and it turned around. See,

1:11:13

niggas don't know. Niggas used to study a c flow

1:11:15

back in the day. That guy man, come

1:11:18

on, he was in the president.

1:11:19

He said that. Yeah, that wasn't a good

1:11:21

role, but it was good.

1:11:22

It wasn't a good role.

1:11:23

It was okay.

1:11:23

They was rolling realicce monopoly though.

1:11:26

That's that know that one. Yeah he

1:11:28

was in that. That's okay, that's what I'm talking

1:11:30

about.

1:11:30

Let's get it.

1:11:32

God, you want to go to the ladies, Missy or Lauren

1:11:34

Hill Lauren the

1:11:37

sauce or xx out sauce.

1:11:42

I want to ask this one smooth

1:11:45

the hustle up or sauce money.

1:11:47

Sauce, money man, Massie man, come

1:11:50

on, you can't come on.

1:11:51

Let me just tell you something. Since we did a deal with titles,

1:11:54

Sauce Money, DC's bad drink jams.

1:11:56

Yo. Absolutely, I did see him say something

1:11:58

about that. I don't know why s

1:12:01

Sauce the homie man Sauce my nigga. I remember

1:12:03

I tried to battle Sauce and MASSI

1:12:05

what I was feeling myself,

1:12:08

like, yeah, I'm gonna be to day.

1:12:10

I'm gonna be hole man. You think you close to

1:12:12

whole? Wait till I hold here this ship. You

1:12:14

don't want no smoke nigga.

1:12:16

Nigga like what bleak?

1:12:17

Let me hear some spit. He's

1:12:19

like, all right, cool, he spit. That's when he said

1:12:22

the line. Niggas must think I'm Chinese

1:12:24

the way they duck Sauce like chill got

1:12:28

you officially hold man half

1:12:31

the title My niggas yours fucking you

1:12:35

not being diddy or yeah,

1:12:38

nah, nobody band Sauce man.

1:12:41

Niggas too busy? How you band somebody

1:12:43

something?

1:12:43

I want to know? Niggas like yo, because

1:12:46

it's a couple of people I know. Be like, Yo, they black

1:12:48

balled men.

1:12:49

How do you do that?

1:12:50

You call every station be like, Yo, don't play

1:12:52

this kid. Who the fuck got that time in

1:12:55

the day.

1:12:55

I'm gonna be honest.

1:12:57

The further I got in life when the person said it was black

1:12:59

balled as the more of more of a loser people,

1:13:01

Yeah, like because they need something to blame. He hated

1:13:04

something to say, you need it expressly Illuminati

1:13:06

too. They're like, well he's a Illuminati.

1:13:07

Yeah. My thing is that that killed

1:13:10

me with the whole in them. They drunk, They Illuminati.

1:13:12

Why the fuck I drink? I

1:13:19

just went to the party like anybody did. Illuminati

1:13:22

wasted and I said, Yo, I'm

1:13:25

gonna I'm gonna stay. No, I'm cool

1:13:27

tonighte to night. I'm on my normous ship

1:13:30

thirty six hours clean my

1:13:33

birthday coming sacrifice.

1:13:35

I would have been in there, Vampire

1:13:37

from Brooklyn nigga and he

1:13:39

had it. Nigga here

1:13:45

with that nigga with

1:13:47

that what

1:13:51

they say, bloody man,

1:13:58

are you kidding me? They say,

1:14:00

had did have dopted the hula bly

1:14:04

got here Alluma called

1:14:06

the Luma grinded nigga fuck

1:14:09

got in Meek

1:14:14

Miller, push your teeth meat

1:14:17

that you skipped over the sauce axel.

1:14:19

Now you asked me, I said, you're okay, okay,

1:14:25

I ain't gonna lie. Listen, not

1:14:28

the dull on the meat. Push

1:14:30

your t ship. But I'm gonna be keep it real.

1:14:34

Sure you don't got no beat. No, you're

1:14:37

talking about the lcense guard over here, Drake.

1:14:41

We don't take No, we don't accept Drake's land

1:14:43

over here. Drake is Drakes bag is

1:14:45

damnitar portovicanized, Drake is golded. I

1:14:47

ain't got no beef for Drake. Drake has

1:14:49

sing your ass out the game. Leave

1:14:51

Drake alone, Leave him alone. But listen,

1:14:54

push your teeth. He's mega

1:14:57

nice, right, We're not gonna take that

1:14:59

away. But I can honestly say,

1:15:01

man, he the rap game. Don't

1:15:04

hold him to the same standards they

1:15:07

hold everybody else to because

1:15:09

I've seen him this to Jeez. I seen

1:15:11

him do it the Ross, seen him do it to me.

1:15:13

They say, niggas talk about the same thing all the time,

1:15:16

Yo, you need to switch it up. My man

1:15:18

been talking about Coke, says, you

1:15:20

kidding me that Poppolo was alive when

1:15:23

he wrote his first You

1:15:26

kidding me that niggas said he got the what

1:15:29

the Harry Potter roof Nigga

1:15:33

you got coke on the roof, Nigga, it's time to

1:15:35

switch it out like

1:15:45

that, Nigga. Mega nice metaphors through

1:15:47

the roof. And I know everybody was thinking

1:15:49

jim Jones was bugging for getting in that smoke.

1:15:52

But Jimmy took that schmoke egg hit

1:15:54

him with that. I want to see the comeback,

1:15:56

but Jimmy smoked.

1:15:57

Out, Yeah he's me

1:16:00

probably. I told jim what happens to push

1:16:02

the tea said he wasn't talking about.

1:16:04

Him, Yo. I seen him. I

1:16:07

seen that because that is bullshit

1:16:09

because niggas do right rbs and you'll be like, yo,

1:16:11

he's talking about me to me like Nigga even wasn't even

1:16:13

thinking about you because it wasn't like when you were nas.

1:16:15

You was like you said, it was written he

1:16:18

was bugging yet yo,

1:16:20

bro, I'm ready admitted that yo

1:16:27

yo Yo,

1:16:31

I did it.

1:16:31

I bought my head. It's cool

1:16:34

like sometimes you gotta go.

1:16:36

You test the water and see niggas just smoke

1:16:38

your boots and go get my big brother, yo.

1:16:40

Hold me down. Niggas Jumpy who

1:16:43

was the dude was a dude for another

1:16:45

name job, but he set you up up. Call

1:16:47

me niggas talk about you. Let me hear

1:16:49

it. He ain't talking about me.

1:16:51

Man, what didjoint? Did you do it? Talking

1:16:54

about you?

1:16:54

I don't know.

1:16:55

He said something.

1:16:56

I think it was no Stra

1:16:58

diamonds because he said you want to be befo, I let a

1:17:00

slug melt in your hat some ship like that.

1:17:02

He was saying, nigga like, he ain't talking about you.

1:17:04

Who it hats? You

1:17:12

know? And sh like you lying.

1:17:14

I gotta holy damn mossy nigga,

1:17:18

they talking to this cool

1:17:20

shit happens. Man, it's over with, It's

1:17:23

done. Niggas is back friends.

1:17:25

Because but I always wanted

1:17:27

to ask you because even if he went

1:17:30

at you right, if

1:17:32

you thought that that was the truth right there, that

1:17:34

was a side shot.

1:17:36

Why did you go so direct? Like

1:17:38

why did you try to take a side shot back? Because

1:17:41

once you said it was written, there's no way

1:17:43

that could take it away.

1:17:44

So that wasn't a side shot. That was a straight up.

1:17:48

I never I wasn't the kid who used to break

1:17:50

windows and run, So I don't

1:17:52

know how to do sneaky ship. I know how to punch

1:17:54

you in your face and say, yeah they got I bloody

1:17:56

your ship up we go and you

1:17:58

feel me like I wasn't

1:18:01

never a sneaky kid, so I know how to come

1:18:03

full fledged the wrack like niggas on the

1:18:05

smoke, what's up? And then

1:18:07

sh it just went crazy. Mindument to historic

1:18:10

where niggas still talk about it to this day. It's

1:18:12

like, God, damn bleep, you violated started

1:18:14

some bullshit. That's like I started an

1:18:16

earthquake, Yo? Who did the earth

1:18:19

by? You

1:18:21

know what I'm saying?

1:18:22

And especially earthread hurricane

1:18:24

because the hurricane starts in the middle.

1:18:25

Of the ocean. Yeah, and then it goes to the land. So yeah,

1:18:28

I started some bullshit. Man, fucking It's

1:18:30

cool.

1:18:30

We'll get back to that. Okay, let'sten.

1:18:33

Let's see what. Let's see where you land on this one.

1:18:35

O dB or bismarcky O

1:18:37

d O dB. You

1:18:41

ever gave O dB a handshake?

1:18:43

Hell? Yeah, you know? Dame? Yo told

1:18:45

you? Dame was Walid Dame signed everybody

1:18:47

the Rockefeller He was like a fucking rap

1:18:50

rap game what they called the for

1:18:52

the shelter. Everybody had

1:18:54

a deal. He was always over shit. You

1:18:57

get a deal, you get it, you get

1:18:59

a deal.

1:19:00

Was or his Oprah ship. Everybody got

1:19:02

a deal. You speak deal.

1:19:05

We had niggas from London, niggas from poland

1:19:08

everybody nigga kidding me, every you could

1:19:10

have got a deal.

1:19:14

Mob Deep, Mop Mop.

1:19:19

Like listen that Toil the Death

1:19:21

album raised me man like

1:19:23

I respect Mob Deep. Don't get me wrong,

1:19:26

Peea Havoc that first album,

1:19:29

that wasn't even the first talking

1:19:31

about the second first, about the infamous,

1:19:33

Yes, that infamous album is

1:19:35

still nobody even rhymen.

1:19:38

I don't even think Prodigy knew what level

1:19:40

of spectrum he was on

1:19:43

that because he never even really even got back

1:19:45

to that.

1:19:46

He like that level of rhyming on that project.

1:19:49

Bro was come on, Bro, it

1:19:51

was.

1:19:51

It was through the roof and like Mop is

1:19:53

just Mop was what

1:19:56

Tupac was to everybody

1:19:58

to Brooklyn.

1:19:59

You know what I mean?

1:20:00

M P you wanted to shoot some ship up.

1:20:02

You played some m P about some

1:20:04

hard call. You know what I'm saying, Like

1:20:06

that that to the Death album, Like you play

1:20:08

that to the Death just that b I'm

1:20:10

still ready to put my chuckers on to

1:20:13

stomp somebody. Video

1:20:16

music Box or your MTV raps Video

1:20:18

music Box Man, Ralph right

1:20:21

Man, that was classic man Ralph

1:20:24

McDaniels was in the hood with the major v

1:20:26

c R VHS cam caught

1:20:28

in the loom in the in the great mic like a

1:20:30

news reporter. Trenches.

1:20:33

Ralph was in the trenches and.

1:20:35

He was there with y'all right after Michael Jackson.

1:20:37

Yeah, Ralph was in the trenches. Ralph

1:20:40

the reason we got clipped. They said, you see that

1:20:42

interview, you went and did that interview. We went to big clip

1:20:44

Ralph eminem

1:20:50

or Snoop Snoop.

1:20:54

Snoop a Dow. I got

1:20:56

Snoop cereal the other day too.

1:20:57

Yeah, I got it right.

1:20:59

My daughter talk about can we try here? No little

1:21:02

girl, this ship monumental? Do sit

1:21:04

down?

1:21:05

Just Blaze or Kanye West? Just don't

1:21:10

you just Blaze? Got

1:21:13

a joint where Rihanna, what was the name of it? That's

1:21:15

not by Just, That's not Just who produced

1:21:17

that? Yeah, that's just

1:21:20

enemy Yoh.

1:21:23

My bad. That

1:21:26

was.

1:21:28

Totally forgot.

1:21:29

I used to go to Cribb in Jersey where

1:21:31

he had the Cribb in Jersey and I said

1:21:33

something about Just and it was like, we don't

1:21:35

say that name of this. It's

1:21:37

like what you don't say? Just waiting it

1:21:39

again, that's blats with me. We don't say

1:21:41

that name in this house. He really had to sign

1:21:44

up no saying just blaze in

1:21:46

this house. That's why, yo, this niggas

1:21:48

in your head. He was like, nah

1:21:50

me stole my style by my sound

1:21:52

Mike.

1:21:53

You know who else says that to like to a certain

1:21:56

stick.

1:21:56

Yeah, whatever album it was,

1:21:59

they feel like Bink and Ye started

1:22:02

the album and then just came and completed the

1:22:04

album and they never blueto man, and they

1:22:06

kind of like never really got what They

1:22:08

both have the same story, Bink and yay. I swear

1:22:10

to God just as yo listen.

1:22:12

But it's not just fault. They just was called you

1:22:15

know, it's calling a job and it's called

1:22:17

still stop shopping, still right, I'm

1:22:19

gonna learn something from you. If I'm around you every

1:22:21

day and you got a skill that I don't presents, I'm

1:22:23

gonna eventually pick up or

1:22:26

fit right, Like it's just natural

1:22:28

instinct, that's what happens. Like I remember

1:22:30

when Beans first signed, Like remember

1:22:32

I was the only artist with me and soorts money

1:22:35

and then something happened with Jay and Sorts and there was no

1:22:37

source of money.

1:22:37

It was just bleak.

1:22:38

Everything was Bleak. Then they signed Beans

1:22:40

and it was like, who the fuck is Bleak? Was?

1:22:43

Everything was Beans? And I was like, you

1:22:45

see what fuck this sigga is mainly coming in my

1:22:47

turf taking my ship.

1:22:48

Now when the.

1:22:49

Studio they're like, yeah, y'all gotta do a record together,

1:22:51

It's like, all right, cool? What was this record called Crue

1:22:53

Love? So I'm like, yeah, that was the first

1:22:56

record. Yeah, I'm gonna spit my verse.

1:22:58

Do my ship.

1:22:58

Fuckay,

1:23:01

listen to do my ship? Fuck these

1:23:03

feelings he came

1:23:05

in there, that Monopoly

1:23:08

verse. It's like, wait a minute,

1:23:10

Wait

1:23:15

a minute, ya ain't tell me this nigga

1:23:17

was this nigga Bigga? We gotta

1:23:19

be friends. I

1:23:21

want to drama with you. I

1:23:24

want to learn from you. Get

1:23:26

over here, we need to chat a

1:23:28

little bit. You heard your word.

1:23:31

All those songs, Crew Love, thousand

1:23:33

Bars. I hated all those

1:23:35

records. I hated them all should

1:23:38

listen to just like this niggas fucking smoking

1:23:40

me. So

1:23:43

it wasn't until we did who the fuck What to

1:23:46

where I was like it felt good,

1:23:48

got your ship Bleak, and that's learning

1:23:50

from Beans. Being in the studio working with

1:23:52

him, you know that makes you better like we

1:23:54

did Hypnotic. All those records together was

1:23:57

because of beans like too much to

1:23:59

drink. No nah, the song met

1:24:02

him in whole drink. I ain't never drink

1:24:04

that. I never drink color food drinks. Man, you

1:24:06

out your mind. Like, if I'm gonna make it

1:24:08

colorfood, it's not gonna come off. That's

1:24:11

like if buying a spike drink. I'm cool. They're

1:24:14

gonna tell me this fucking blue ship gonna get

1:24:16

me drunk. I'm cool, alright,

1:24:18

care rest one rock kep k

1:24:20

r s Man krs

1:24:23

Man.

1:24:23

He's the goat man. Care the greatest

1:24:25

man ever to me.

1:24:27

KR is the best ever to me, like

1:24:29

always like that's the first album I

1:24:31

ever bought. Man, that's what made me fall in love with hip

1:24:34

hop. Criminal Minded, that's right, man,

1:24:37

that made me fall in love with him.

1:24:38

I love Criminal Mind. It's just two records.

1:24:40

I could not I know you can. I know

1:24:43

he smoked niggas.

1:24:46

Didn't play it in public.

1:24:48

Yo, KR is the He's the greatest

1:24:50

man.

1:24:51

I assume this is movies state property

1:24:53

to or pay him for I'm in the both

1:24:55

bleek.

1:24:55

Be careful.

1:24:59

Say state property me too.

1:25:00

That's why I god damn. So

1:25:04

what was in your mind when they told you gonna die? They

1:25:07

probably won Listen, let me tell

1:25:09

you the story behind that. I

1:25:12

never read the script, so I didn't know

1:25:14

I was gonna die. No, so

1:25:16

I just came into office. Niggas told him like, yo, were

1:25:18

doing the movie?

1:25:19

Okay, cool me. Whoever the gangster

1:25:22

is, that's me.

1:25:23

So they gave me the script.

1:25:25

I never read it.

1:25:26

So when I show up on set, they used to be like,

1:25:28

bleak, you gotta shoot your scene. I'd be like, what's

1:25:31

my lines? I'd be like, yo, you ain't read the script. No.

1:25:33

I never read the script.

1:25:35

So I used to write my lines down a little piece

1:25:37

of paper, give it to me to remember, and then

1:25:39

I would go on set and through the scene. And

1:25:42

then the day when they told me I was gonna die,

1:25:45

it was like, wait a minute, Wait a minute, we

1:25:48

got to rewrite the script. Nigga's like, Yo, you definite

1:25:50

read the script, so you ain't know you was gonna die.

1:25:53

It's like, why y'all killing me?

1:25:54

Though I got the.

1:25:56

Best role, Like I'm I'm gonna

1:25:58

kill O. I'm putting it work? Why I went really

1:26:00

good? I'm a good actor. They

1:26:03

killed me off. But that wasn't the highlight

1:26:05

of the movie. The best shit of the movie,

1:26:07

man, is the scene with me and Ta

1:26:09

Ta yo. Yo listen Tata.

1:26:12

Oh my fucking god, it's

1:26:14

a scene with me and Tati in the movie when

1:26:17

he tell me to tell Bean suck

1:26:19

my dick.

1:26:20

Yo listen.

1:26:21

We probably shot that scene four

1:26:25

thousand times because

1:26:27

every time I crossed the street, Yo,

1:26:29

my nigga U Yo, niggas is just busts

1:26:32

out laughing because remember Ti, the o

1:26:34

g you don't talk to Tati like

1:26:36

Yo, what the fuck? Who the fuck? You

1:26:39

know, it's not just certa shit, you just don't

1:26:41

do it. Then you around the nigga every day. So

1:26:43

it was like come on, then he

1:26:45

got it. So when I got over my part, like

1:26:48

okay, cool now mine. You know, niggas don't be like

1:26:50

Yo, suck my dick. So for him

1:26:52

to say that to me yo week Yo, the director

1:26:55

was done with us, like, Yo, got niggas costing us money?

1:26:57

Now we running over budget. Man, y'all

1:26:59

gotta get to see done with yo that yo. That

1:27:02

sceneed probably took two days for us to do.

1:27:03

No bullshit. We could

1:27:06

not get that scene stuff for nothing.

1:27:08

And me dying. If you look at the cut

1:27:10

scenes like the out like you know the out,

1:27:12

the outtakes of the movie. Look at the

1:27:14

dying scene of me, Nigga's gonna laugh forever. I

1:27:16

couldn't fall for nothing. Nigga

1:27:19

who got shot stood up. I

1:27:24

couldn't make myself fall for yo.

1:27:26

It was the worst fall in history. So the record

1:27:28

when they were shooting state property to you was, hey, let's

1:27:30

just start it out there.

1:27:32

I hated all ya all

1:27:35

yr niggas because they killed me.

1:27:37

I'd have been in there putting it work on my men,

1:27:39

right, sugging y'all, bit chat niggas

1:27:41

out y'all. They killed me, y'all ay

1:27:43

some muscle, y'all. Suck ass niggas read

1:27:47

them scripts.

1:27:49

It was funny.

1:27:52

I get the word that they filming the movie

1:27:55

and I forget that.

1:27:56

Bleak dives in the movie.

1:27:59

And you hit me. I hate you because they

1:28:01

hit me, and they go, Yo, you're the only black and Puerto

1:28:03

Rican person that we know that could

1:28:05

fulfill for p D crame.

1:28:07

So my only c like his name was Pedro.

1:28:09

I was like, I don't want to be Pedro because I wanted to

1:28:11

be more like so they came in, they read it over. So

1:28:14

the first person I called is Bleak. I'm

1:28:16

like, yo, I think I got this ship got to be like fuck

1:28:18

them, man.

1:28:20

Kill me in one. He

1:28:25

definitely called me like, yo, I got the movie.

1:28:27

I'm being sick property too.

1:28:28

My nigga, we gonna do it that there. I'm like, what, man,

1:28:31

fuck that movie. It just

1:28:33

killed me in part.

1:28:36

Totally.

1:28:36

But you also was in Paper Soldiers. Yeah,

1:28:39

for there was dope about your rolling Paper

1:28:41

Soldiers. No fuck that.

1:28:43

I dug Dave for like six months

1:28:45

for that movie.

1:28:46

I did not want to do that movie because

1:28:49

this was at the time when Rockefeller was

1:28:51

breaking up, so he was shooting death

1:28:53

with the Dia same

1:28:55

time. So I was

1:28:57

like, fuck everybody, I'm

1:29:00

not getting in this movie. So he used to be calling

1:29:02

me. You believe I needed to be in the movie? You go do the scene,

1:29:04

all right, Dann cool? Is that why all your lines

1:29:07

is wrap line? Because

1:29:09

I never wanted to do it. So I guess he called

1:29:11

ja.

1:29:11

He pulled out a gun.

1:29:13

Yeah, Jay

1:29:16

called me and it was like your bleak,

1:29:18

come on man for me bro do the movie. So I

1:29:21

did it, and Dame always felt a way about that because

1:29:23

I remember he said to me he wouldn't do

1:29:25

it unless Jay caught. And he said that to me, like,

1:29:27

Damn, I've been looking for you for months

1:29:29

to do this ship whole call you once and you go

1:29:32

do it like that's some bullshit.

1:29:33

I remember he said that ship to me, it was just a shot for

1:29:35

Damon.

1:29:36

Take a shot for your lords, both dam

1:29:44

I definitely had fun. I stayed property

1:29:46

too. I definitely did think that thank you

1:29:48

for the experience.

1:29:49

Ship, not me.

1:29:50

I wasn't there. I was just he had

1:29:53

could have hated it.

1:29:53

You did not hate.

1:29:56

That can hit me hard this time.

1:29:58

Okay, it's still on me.

1:30:00

I think I got

1:30:02

it. Oh, DJ Flex flex

1:30:05

Man, Clue my man. I can't

1:30:07

clue. My man went on tour with Clue.

1:30:10

But Clue don't fuck with me because

1:30:12

it's some fake ass. I don't

1:30:14

know. They think me and Fab but I

1:30:16

don't fuck with Fab or something. But Clue

1:30:18

never really rocked with Blee. Why

1:30:21

you definitely pick Jada kiss fast so yeah,

1:30:23

but no, Fab, my bro, I fucked. I see

1:30:26

Fab, I show Matt Love. I never had no problem

1:30:28

with this is the thing. Let me be honest,

1:30:31

Google anything in this industry

1:30:33

I never had a problem with nobody. I

1:30:35

do not wake up and watch another

1:30:38

man and say, you

1:30:40

know what, I'm gonna make an issue with this nigga.

1:30:43

What the fuck did Fab ever

1:30:45

do to me or me ever do to him

1:30:47

for it to be some beat like I don't where

1:30:50

where come from? It always been

1:30:52

some imaginary like fake shit

1:30:54

there. But me and Fab brother is major

1:30:56

cool. Okay, yeah, major cool.

1:30:59

You know what I'm saying. But it always in Suffix. You didn Clue,

1:31:01

I think always was like yeah to

1:31:05

now, scan my bro. I brought my first truck from

1:31:07

skaming, kidding me, scan my fucking brother.

1:31:09

I love that nigga, Clue.

1:31:11

I love Clue too, you know, but it just me

1:31:13

and Clue just never never built that bond,

1:31:15

and we was on tour together and everything. We just never

1:31:18

never got cool. I always got cool with the niggas

1:31:20

around Clue show love. But it's been

1:31:22

like a whatever Bleak, So

1:31:24

you know it's that, So you're

1:31:27

safe to say Clue won't be hosting your next mistake.

1:31:30

Clue never hosted a mixtape for Bleak. It's

1:31:34

real, but he put you on his tapes

1:31:36

because I was on a song with Hole. Of

1:31:39

course, he he't

1:31:41

put a bleak song up there. I

1:31:45

think I made the first clue tape. Every

1:31:47

other clue tape was on some whole ship

1:31:49

like it was cool, like it's not bad. Yo.

1:31:54

I don't hold no malice against nobody. Man,

1:31:57

no DJ no, dj no put

1:31:59

it this way. No DJ no

1:32:02

artists, no producer, no program

1:32:04

director. Nobody in this industry

1:32:07

has ever offended me the way I feel

1:32:10

some type of way about you niggas. I

1:32:12

don't think about these niggas. I I'm

1:32:14

always on the check. That's all I think

1:32:16

about. So if that's your last name in the

1:32:19

check, then you on my mind.

1:32:22

Simple.

1:32:23

I respect that.

1:32:24

Uh n w A or public enemy n

1:32:27

w A baby, they come on.

1:32:29

They the reason we do this gangster ship straight

1:32:32

but ship, public

1:32:35

reason, why we call niggas son. They had the first

1:32:37

S one ws. I'm

1:32:39

sorry, what did you say? Public injury? Public

1:32:44

enemy? They had the S one w someone

1:32:46

w's soldier.

1:32:49

You called the someone word.

1:32:52

That's where we got it from in Brooklyn. Word.

1:32:54

I think that was some some what

1:32:57

they called you know, yeah they.

1:33:01

Yeah, okay, analog

1:33:04

of digital.

1:33:06

Digital digital. You're on that

1:33:08

new wave ship. Yeah, man, shit, faster be that

1:33:10

analog shain't got time, no way funk

1:33:13

all that ship man, fuck that ship.

1:33:16

Rough riders or cash money rough

1:33:19

Riders.

1:33:19

Baby and my bros man all

1:33:22

of them d y you know Swiss

1:33:25

X Dragons, My nigga,

1:33:27

Me and Dragon had a battle too. You know what I'm

1:33:29

saying, Dragon, Smoke, you keep it more.

1:33:33

Nigga got your mind. Dragon stepped

1:33:35

this ship up though. That still going hard

1:33:37

now he's spitting super badly right

1:33:39

now. But yeah, now me

1:33:42

and drag Bang made you cool man.

1:33:43

Okay, reasonable doubt or in my lifetime

1:33:46

volume two, reasonable

1:33:48

doubt.

1:33:49

That's what's set it off. Reasonable doubt, hands

1:33:51

down, missis society or boys in the

1:33:53

hood, Boys in the hood,

1:33:58

okay, boys and hoods with ice Q right,

1:34:00

Yeah, And it was first

1:34:03

loyalty or respect. Loyalty

1:34:06

loyalty comes respect.

1:34:11

Let me take a shot for that.

1:34:12

That me I'm cool.

1:34:13

I'm shouting out a

1:34:16

nigga shot hit up.

1:34:21

So I'm gonna get back to the verses in COVID

1:34:24

Thank you and COVID or smoke

1:34:27

because I called you and I was like your bleak.

1:34:29

You know, I'm just walking with you and

1:34:32

you had a whole verse remember that person.

1:34:35

I mad smoke for niggas. What

1:34:38

you want me to smoke?

1:34:39

I want you.

1:34:40

I want to hear that verse.

1:34:43

That versus all yo, che you want me to smoke

1:34:45

nigga.

1:34:46

Let's come on. I don't want to start no drama.

1:34:49

You've started the drama blee.

1:34:54

Remember Yeah, it was a specific

1:34:58

like if it was drama, if we having

1:35:00

a versus gad you know, it's like

1:35:02

a verse like when Jada stopped his rib

1:35:05

He's like, you know, I'm your

1:35:08

neighbors.

1:35:08

Yeah, no, it's a little it's very very disrespectful.

1:35:11

I don't want to do that.

1:35:12

Is this I didn't know.

1:35:13

It's very very it's versus baby. We're

1:35:15

getting busy, right, It's called bringing don't

1:35:18

bring a knife to a gunfight, baby.

1:35:19

I bring a bomb.

1:35:21

So all right, so let's just be Yeah, I don't want

1:35:23

to you know what I mean. So you're saying that you're

1:35:26

not you're not worried about if

1:35:28

you alls come out to jang

1:35:32

Bang, Well that ship fire, that's cool.

1:35:34

That's shit, dope, I ain't that's cool. What

1:35:36

that means I'm supposed to be like, oh, ship tuck your

1:35:39

song, Joe Guru, pack up Goo pack

1:35:42

up Goo, we go home Gool clearly got gurus

1:35:44

the d and just blaze, okay, and

1:35:46

just blade pack up Gool, but just

1:35:48

blaze kind of like dips that too. Don't

1:35:51

don't do that, Oh boy, don't fuck that's cool.

1:35:53

He did do that, and I always want to fuck

1:35:55

him up for that, but I can't, right,

1:36:05

but I can't. That's my brother. I love

1:36:11

nig trying to say I passed up old

1:36:13

boy, your old boy, fucking mind fuck

1:36:16

out of out of hit your dad with the old

1:36:18

boy. When

1:36:21

they said you had the record first first,

1:36:23

what I had it first? Win camera

1:36:26

rapped on it. Holy

1:36:29

shit, you heard it first, Yeah, just like

1:36:31

I ain't never liked the fact he gave buttons

1:36:33

pumping up to funk out of your

1:36:36

nigga. You don't give ship like that away.

1:36:38

And I never liked the fact he gave Fab

1:36:41

that other ship. The fuck

1:36:44

is that record? Smoke with Fab

1:36:46

smokey ride of the video with the Bentley

1:36:48

the two way page. Damn, what

1:36:50

song is this fucking song? Breathe

1:36:53

Yes, Hey, I was sick on that

1:36:55

too. Breathe he should have gave you was

1:36:58

out of line, little and I

1:37:00

passed that. What was the other.

1:37:01

What was the other two records?

1:37:02

His name?

1:37:04

I don't want you to hear you on bubble up, sir.

1:37:06

It may not. It might have been took

1:37:08

it in my head. You said,

1:37:14

you know what I'm saying, like I never even heard these beat.

1:37:17

Now the one beat they said I passed up on

1:37:19

cool Oh the black raw

1:37:21

God bless you know whoa Now

1:37:24

that think about it, he did. He

1:37:27

got the beat and came up with the concept.

1:37:29

WHOA, They act like I passed up

1:37:31

on that. You take that

1:37:34

concept away from that beat, would it still

1:37:36

be that monumental? You

1:37:39

understand what I'm saying, like that's his thought

1:37:42

to get the beat and say whoa.

1:37:44

That's like me being unfair. If I was to tell

1:37:46

you your red Man passed up on the mind

1:37:49

right beat? He when he heard it? He didn't

1:37:51

hear mine right when I heard it? I did,

1:37:54

you know what I'm saying. So you can't say somebody

1:37:56

passed up on something less you gave

1:37:58

them the idea with the beat and they passed

1:38:01

up on that, then that's a fair that

1:38:03

gave me. And the beat for Jagga

1:38:06

Jagga Nigga nigga

1:38:08

nor I was like, I ain't working with that. Then I heard

1:38:11

hold on it like.

1:38:14

I was.

1:38:17

And everything. But see that's now

1:38:19

that's something you can say, you pat They gave me the vision.

1:38:23

Nigga, I

1:38:26

get this ship like niggas

1:38:28

will be on Twitter like bleakis bugget.

1:38:30

He passed on Whoa, No, I didn't pass on Whoa

1:38:33

passed on the beat.

1:38:34

You know what else? I passed on hallow

1:38:40

back young and whoo, hallow back

1:38:42

young and woo.

1:38:43

A lot of a lot of people don't know. I respect

1:38:45

for rel You.

1:38:46

Know what told me to do?

1:38:48

Prell told me to go study

1:38:50

Ice Ice Baby.

1:38:51

That's what he said that song.

1:38:53

And he said he said, he said study ice ice Baby.

1:38:55

And on the second day of me studying Ice ice Baby,

1:38:57

I caught him back. I said I can't do it. I

1:39:00

can't do it, and he said, you know what, fuck it. And then

1:39:02

that's how Homeboy came about. If

1:39:06

you listen to Hall the back Younger is, it

1:39:09

is Roland go to

1:39:11

see.

1:39:13

To Glass. It's the same exact

1:39:15

flow. The hollow back Younger is Ice

1:39:17

ice Baby. It's

1:39:21

the same exact Remember when I first heard it in

1:39:24

fab Spitty that rolling go

1:39:26

to see the stashing the dash hold

1:39:28

to I was like, yo, hold on this nigga

1:39:30

on a different left.

1:39:31

That was look, gave

1:39:35

me the same thing and said, but I want you to

1:39:37

do the Jungle Brothers over. So it was

1:39:39

Uncle saying, Mike g say what that join the Slam?

1:39:42

What his manager Chris that joined the Slam for five

1:39:44

thousand boom and watch sound

1:39:46

System stated arts, now listen to myns you know

1:39:48

our poppy say what that nigga is the man?

1:39:51

What is managed? The only thing I left was his mantage

1:39:53

of Chris? What is manager Chris?

1:39:54

And the label the jams still old flossing? So

1:39:56

on your watch, ain't you? Dudes? Heard grab me and stole

1:39:59

your It's the same exact thing, different vocals.

1:40:01

But let me ask, why wouldn't you ever listen to him

1:40:03

if he's never been wrong records for.

1:40:06

I've been wrong with Yeah, you just

1:40:08

ain't throwing out yeah with you?

1:40:10

Yeah, because I remember that what was the

1:40:12

record that we was in l A when

1:40:15

he was telling you to do something?

1:40:16

He was like, no, he wanted me to do in a Spanish

1:40:18

and try it out, to try some Spanish.

1:40:21

Yeah, I couldn't get I couldn't do it.

1:40:24

Nah. Yeah, I

1:40:26

mean I saw, I felt

1:40:29

the way he was coming with it. I understood

1:40:31

what the way he was trying to brogate. But yeah, it wasn't

1:40:33

where I was at at the moment. Like I didn't I didn't want to

1:40:35

do something for us.

1:40:37

Yeah, so be that way, bing, be

1:40:39

that way.

1:40:40

Niggas made me do it.

1:40:42

Niggas made me do a so called you need dick

1:40:45

in your life?

1:40:46

Come on, man, only reason, only

1:40:49

reason.

1:40:49

I like the show.

1:40:54

It made me do this, so they chased me.

1:40:56

Then they made me do this. And this was a O G

1:40:58

call, I go time to the train tracks.

1:41:01

But he definitely made me do it.

1:41:02

The only reason I respected it and put it on the album

1:41:04

is because we got Nate.

1:41:05

Dogg singing it.

1:41:06

And it was like record

1:41:08

you no, no, no, no, it wasn't big. It

1:41:10

was a massy plug.

1:41:11

It was a mass plug.