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his brother here. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest and

1:03

uh, he's one of my favorite personalities.

1:07

He's relentless, he

1:09

speaks his mind. Uh,

1:13

he hurts people feelings. Every time we're togethers

1:15

we're hurting somebody's feelings. Um,

1:21

your brothers try to count him out. You

1:24

you people try to to to to They

1:28

tried to but this mother Virgo

1:33

Virgo game from he's his

1:36

his his, He's from q J Queen's

1:39

Jersey. He's, like I said, he's relentless.

1:42

Um, everyone, if you know this

1:45

man, you actually know he's one

1:47

of the greatest guys are heart.

1:49

But if you don't know him, Oh, I understand

1:52

how you think he's I can

1:54

understand it. Get he's one of my close

1:56

friends. I love him dearly.

1:59

He's he's, he's he he's. Like I said,

2:02

we even took some of his

2:06

platforms, uh page

2:08

tactics. Yes, because he knew

2:10

what this was for a

2:13

lot of us knew what this was. And

2:15

I've been damn if we ain't gonna give him his

2:17

flowers, and we're gonna give him his flowers yesterday,

2:20

We're gonna give him flowers today, We're gonna give

2:22

his flowers tomorrow. And in casey I don't

2:24

know who were talking about, we told about the one and only

2:27

motherfucker's old

2:31

that let's give him slower. Let's give a slow

2:33

right now. I

2:38

might have to steal this little trick, y'all. Yeah,

2:41

I ain't gonna lie I stole your trick. I'm

2:44

gonna be honest. I came into Joe Joe's

2:46

um a show and they

2:49

had they had chalkboards. I

2:51

was so hated. Wait a minute,

2:53

it was like they had ship written down. Yes,

2:56

but that's in our mind, we have that,

2:59

but we have been off some of the

3:01

guests. You say that sometimes some of the guests get

3:03

offended when I go like this, They're thinking,

3:06

I'm um like answering the text,

3:08

but I'm actually, Hell, you're looking up your note.

3:10

Yeah, I'm looking up. You gotta stop unlocking

3:13

your phone. That makes it even worse. Yeah, but it's

3:15

bad. I

3:18

mean I look at it like if I'm watching because we

3:20

watched TV, right, we're consumers. I'll

3:22

see some money on my TV doing that, or

3:26

when I was doing it in views, it's a rapper, right,

3:28

if the nigga in front of me opened up and started

3:30

doing like a little I'm

3:32

gonna get tight. Yeah, okay, I'm

3:36

gonna get But but recently we just this

3:38

is brand ass, fucking new. Chris

3:41

Rock, you called Real Smith a bitch. No man,

3:44

that was nobody here calling

3:47

you Joe. It was, certainly, but

3:49

I love the shout out, like, what

3:52

what do we do? What do we? What do I mean? I don't agree

3:54

what none he did, but I'm not gonna call another man. I'm

3:57

not gonna do that. But but Chris Rock said, y'all

3:59

did that chance y'all as

4:03

the last platform. No, but I

4:05

love the way he named it because he put us in the rapper

4:07

category. But

4:14

no, we did not call you a bitch. Yeah we did, we did,

4:17

but fuck we would like to shut up. But Joe, this is

4:19

a fucking Joe.

4:22

This is a fucking lifetime rumor. To

4:26

have memes about it a lifetime

4:28

rumor in my life at least. Is

4:32

it true that

4:34

you asked jay Z to get

4:37

on pump it Up? He

4:39

said give me two hundred and fifty thousand, that's

4:42

the rumor. That's a rumor

4:45

because I didn't personally ask him. I couldn't. You couldn't.

4:47

I couldn't personally speak. Did you go through web? Okay,

4:51

So the rumor is you asked him for two

4:54

hundred and fifty thousand. No, I asked him for

4:56

a verse verse and he asked you. But

4:59

you didn't ask directly. You're saying, yeah, I think

5:01

he said to Skan, I was outside probably,

5:03

and then that's like you

5:07

for people that don't know, it's desert storm. That storm

5:09

were very powerful guy, Skan Dollar,

5:12

very powerful dude. U uh

5:15

on the close right hands man, he was actual

5:17

shout Skant Skan. So the

5:20

rumor is because I seemed to mean the other day right

5:22

there was like, this is how I believe.

5:24

They credited it to how petty jay Z is. They

5:27

said, this is how petty jay Z is. They

5:29

said that jay Z you asked

5:31

jay Z for a verse. Hove

5:33

said two fifty. You said, no, you

5:36

went on the rant. This is what they said you went on.

5:38

They said, you're classic Joe Button

5:41

rants and then classic

5:43

jay Z style. He went and did

5:45

a freestyle on your beat. No,

5:50

I didn't. Where could I go on a rant at I

5:52

don't know. At the time. I didn't

5:55

go on a rant at the time, I was so young

5:58

that with your audio, you're good. At

6:00

the time, I would say, I'm

6:10

professional. No,

6:12

at the time, I'm not ran nowhere. I don't even know how

6:14

to how to receive that. I just know that I don't

6:16

have two hundred and fifty grand. I think

6:18

Webb put the battery in my back to

6:21

let me know. You know you're gonna love him. Do that now, you gotta

6:23

get the studio right now now, even to this ship. So

6:26

where'd you get this rumor? From the

6:28

internet? From

6:30

the internet, and he knows all parties involved

6:33

sat here in this see very close and spoken

6:36

about it. I admire how you get to sit

6:38

here and bring up when people sit here, you get to bring

6:40

up all the dirt you ever heard in

6:43

life about the hear

6:47

I've just seen this nigga probably

6:49

talking about twenty years ago and the humorous, nonchalant

6:51

man, and you know what else, I hate

6:54

him. I can't you could even ask that when

6:56

you get to talk about jay Z like that, like you know Tove

6:58

and you get to say Penny. I

7:01

tried not to talk about none of them because

7:04

I don't want the call. No, I

7:06

ain't gonna litch you. I'm being honest. Getting

7:10

the jay Z call it is not all cracked up

7:12

to be yo. Know that ass he

7:15

will check you like I'm being honest.

7:18

I'm being honest. If I see the whole

7:20

call, I don't like really pick

7:23

up fast. I'm what did I do?

7:25

You got to prepare yourself? The engineers

7:27

has what did we say last week? Like

7:31

we're in the clare what's

7:34

up? And Yo? The fucking Pallid

7:37

album had dropped in August? It must have

7:39

been whenever that Guards did drop her.

7:42

You know, my co host we all huge Hove

7:44

hand fans, but my coals is

7:47

like me before I met him,

7:49

Like, oh that's jay Z. So

7:52

we was having an argument on the pod like I don't

7:54

think that's the best best bird that ever

7:57

done. Right. Well, I did that part and then went to

7:59

fucking somewhere for my birthday. I flew to where

8:01

was I at? Mikonos somewhere

8:06

I don't even crazy. Yeah, broke niggas

8:08

here. That's grease. Sh

8:12

he just named. No, no, no, that's not grease.

8:16

You're not a part of that game. Who

8:18

edited that part? No,

8:20

No, I was too Meconos. That's not grease.

8:23

That is grea is grease. Okay, gotta

8:27

continue. But anyway, I gotta text that morning

8:29

from and I

8:32

just didn't think it was to wish me happy birthday. Ja.

8:36

I won't talk about the text, but no, we don't

8:38

talk. Yeah, yeah, Jay,

8:41

I don't want nobody to ever text me from the industry.

8:43

I want to just kind of do my gig and stay

8:46

in my bubble, right because you know, you

8:48

know, Joe, that's something that I may about

8:51

you. Is Me

8:53

and my one one of my close friends,

8:55

sonny D, were riding on the car

8:58

here and he said, one think

9:00

about Joe. He's not gonna hold his tongue.

9:03

It's funny. I think I hold my tongue a lot from

9:07

my outside of looking in shit.

9:10

But if I really told the truth, they

9:12

would have they would have killed me, reader because

9:17

one of these rapping because Serain

9:20

was he always want to piece some shit up, get out of you. It

9:23

was so with you on Charlomagne. Nothing. We just hate each

9:25

other, legitimately hate each other. No,

9:27

it's not. It's not a real head. So

9:30

hold on, did he just say nothing? We just hate each other. I

9:32

thought that was the most craziest. That

9:34

was the nillest. Shit on

9:37

you, but not shit on you? World.

9:39

No, I'm not shitting no nobody because you're independent. Yeah,

9:42

but I'm partner with. I'm partner with But

9:45

like you, would you partner? What a title?

9:48

I would? I had those conversations

9:50

early. Okay, I

9:52

had a lot of conversations. Huh um who

9:55

you had commost with? Excuse

9:58

me back? I

10:04

love this energy, y'all.

10:07

Don't get this word energy. I'm

10:09

chilling getting

10:13

Anyboddy nah Joe. So let's

10:16

just be real good. No, let's

10:18

be real bro, because let's be real

10:20

bro. No, let's be real. I'm

10:23

not gonna lie. Joe, You're

10:25

monkey foot in the game. You

10:28

got these motherfuckers. They don't know what

10:31

to do, and you are with you because

10:35

you you you in Jersey fly

10:40

his crib. Look

10:43

at our ship. We gotta step it up.

10:46

I like the racket man. When

10:49

would we gotta we

10:51

gotta go do his part, Me and you together. Open

10:54

invite for y'all on the water, Open

10:56

invite for y'all. Sexy. It's candles burning

11:03

in my mind. He was wearing a silk outfit back

11:06

and they smoke outside. It's no smoking

11:09

and doors. Yeah, Joe,

11:12

you winning, Thank you man,

11:14

as are you guys? No, no, no, no, it's about you you.

11:17

Let's make let's everybody in this place makes

11:19

the noise for my motherfucking brother,

11:22

Joe. But this

11:28

is why I love podcasting a little

11:30

more than rapping. It's because

11:33

we could just do this. But really,

11:35

is we being ourselves? And

11:38

that's what's the most remarkable thing about

11:40

your show, your platform. Is

11:44

you really just being you? I love it.

11:47

I love it like I kid you not like

11:49

you could probably watch my ship and I can watch this ship

11:52

and you'd be like, that's just who he is, and

11:54

you just be how does it feel to win being

11:57

yourself? Amazing? It

11:59

feels amazing when people are shocked that your

12:02

joke won't give me an album, Like when people

12:04

are shocked by my resistance

12:07

to that idea to making music. Yeah,

12:10

they just don't understand how liberated

12:12

it feels. I wake

12:15

up, I go down the street,

12:18

I talked to my friends, and

12:21

then I go home. Right twice

12:23

a week, right, like, really,

12:27

really sit with that. I've seen Styles

12:30

just said something recently, or it was reposted

12:32

that the most freeing thing that

12:34

he ever did was to get into the juice

12:37

business because it freedom from the music industry.

12:40

We all love him. I love that

12:42

about Styles. He's one of my rapper

12:44

inspirations, right, like the people older

12:47

than me, how they got liberated and

12:49

how they went about it. I'd like to see that. So I'll

12:52

tell y'all a funny secret. I used to hate Styles. That's

12:55

a funny secret to me too. He

12:58

was not a good guy back

13:01

in the day's. Styles was not a good guy. I

13:03

went from like like kind

13:05

of like hating Styles. I would give Styles the keys

13:08

to my apartment right now, the keys to my

13:10

COMMU condo

13:14

keys. I wouldn't go like this. I would throw

13:16

it without even looking at it. And that's what I'm

13:18

saying. That's that's that's how the evolution of

13:22

hip hop is. It's so beautiful to see

13:24

people grow. It's so beautiful to see Joe

13:26

buttons coming here. I don't even know what color that

13:28

is, sir, that is bank that

13:32

you are looking very fly, voluptuous.

13:35

Let's make some noise for him looking like Miami.

13:38

Damnit. It's

13:41

playing ching

13:46

loto ching being solo on y'all

13:49

nigga. So we're gonna I'm supported yeo.

13:56

You've been in themistus the fire call a lot.

13:58

You're gonna get us niped? Yeah? Uh?

14:02

And Joe, you you want some self of water?

14:05

Ya okay, yeah, get some sels of water, Joe.

14:07

And let me get one of those red cups too. Where you hiding

14:09

that man that

14:14

we have? We have ron Issy here, I

14:17

saw no no no no no

14:20

no, no no no no. I posted a picture you

14:22

saw that I supposed to do

14:24

that you're not supposed to do about it about

14:31

violent all around. He tried to put you,

14:34

to be honest, it's jp for with j J

14:37

sent me the picture. I was like, I look, fly, that

14:43

was some real kid ship. But anyway, um, the

14:47

ogs they sit around and they

14:49

come with their old their own cup.

14:53

Is that something that you're involved with bringing

14:55

your own cup when you go to places. I

14:57

travel with a coffee cup normally, so it's

15:00

mind in his cup. Huh,

15:02

this is when yours? Was it? No? Oh? I thought it

15:05

was. No. I just asked for a rep cup

15:07

and they had two

15:09

of them. Right, So

15:12

all right, we're

15:16

leaving the rap game, right, yes, Joe? And

15:20

how is how is this position in podcast

15:22

world presented to you? It

15:25

is someone? It was? There was no position

15:28

presented to me, so so how how did you discover

15:30

it? Which? Which are you talking about? Doing this? You're doing podcasting?

15:32

Yes, he hadn't been doing digital content. Yes,

15:35

because as long as I can to you, I'm not gonna lie

15:37

to you long time. But

15:41

presented to me. Listen to that, no doctor,

15:44

that sounds like the Luminati campy oh damn?

15:48

Well yeah, early on because

15:50

Combat and unpresented a situation before

15:54

you even knew that there were situations to be presented,

15:56

and that just wasn't my cup of tea. So

16:00

yeah, no, I presented into twenty We started

16:02

in twenty fifteen, twenty

16:04

fifteen. Yeah, twenty fifteen, February

16:07

seven with the podcast. I started

16:09

my podcast February TV

16:12

first, right, yeah that wait wait,

16:14

wait, that's two decades ago. You know, I'm thinking

16:16

that's around us. Yeah, but

16:18

but I felt like Joe far Apart.

16:21

No, but I felt like Joe buddon TV felt like

16:23

starting. Yeah. I guess we're going back to how

16:25

far you were doing content? Yeah, and

16:28

y'all are going back to if we're going back to the early days

16:30

of content. I worked at High ninety

16:32

seven and oh four. I want to say, remember

16:35

that in two thousand and ten,

16:37

I had my own solo show that I

16:39

was just uploading the iTunes called

16:42

this is My Fucking Show That was in twenty

16:45

ten, and that more so it was just like a practice rehearsal

16:47

and just speaking by yourself and

16:49

by myself, and it was uploading that.

16:51

Joe buddon TV we started that, and I

16:53

started that in two thousand and seven, two

16:56

thousand and six full o gr here.

16:59

Uh. That went as long as

17:01

it point, and that you were monetizing

17:05

or was it just it was no monetizing in two

17:08

thousand and seven, there was no

17:10

monetizing. You had to be down with

17:12

that came and oh nine, and then when I've seen Missing

17:15

Foe and low Key and all of them, you had to be down with a gang

17:17

to get monetization. I forgot. I forgot

17:20

what the name of the gangs were. Yeah,

17:23

I thought I was blowing it up. He blowing it up,

17:25

but I don't mean to. But I mean, once

17:28

you find out that there's coin to be

17:30

had and you start to make calls,

17:33

and you see how protective people were over

17:35

the different avenues, like

17:38

because it was limited, yeah, very limited.

17:40

Uh. And at the time when I started my podcast,

17:43

like there was nothing to be presented because what

17:46

was anybody doing? Wasn't Peter Rosenberg

17:49

at first like trying to um monetize

17:53

you like he was trying to like he was trying to produce

17:55

me. But I'm difficult to produce

17:58

because you you don't only a person who could produce you a producer.

18:00

Yes, that makes sense. So I'm

18:03

you know, I'm watching to see what you produce,

18:07

and if you're not producing, then I

18:09

can produce that producer. Can

18:12

we get some switches? Please? I'm not saying

18:15

that because Rosenberg saw

18:17

a talent and acted on an

18:20

idea I believe he was right. I'm yeah,

18:22

he clearly was right. So I'm not saying he wasn't

18:24

producing. I'm saying at the time, my

18:28

idea of producing and his

18:30

idea of producer may not have been the same. He might

18:32

not have known how to produce

18:36

me at that time. But it just it

18:38

just wasn't there then. It wasn't there,

18:41

you know, to talk about and

18:44

shout out to Rosenberg. I never wanted to deny

18:46

him of the part that he played, the

18:48

part that anybody played in my journey,

18:51

my past, my path, my road

18:53

to today. I don't ever want

18:55

to discredit or sound like I am. I love

18:57

that. Let's make some more that I hold

19:00

hold up because I think it's important to note that

19:03

you weren't monetizing early on, but you were. You

19:05

were going hard digit in digital content space. Yeah,

19:08

it wasn't cool, It wasn't possible. Didn't looked like

19:10

you knew. It looked like you knew from the outside looking

19:12

in. I'm sorry, it looked like you knew what you was doing.

19:14

You did? Did you know I knew what I was doing creatively?

19:16

Did I ask your creatively only?

19:19

No? Yeah, And you knew that it was doing something.

19:21

It was giving you some kind of not

19:23

return, it was financial

19:25

return, but there was a return for

19:28

me, like like for drink Chams. We did

19:31

XM before the merger and then serious XM

19:34

for like two or three years. Yeah, I always forget if

19:36

it's two or three or what. But we did. If someone say, when

19:38

I say militatement, crazy royal, right, that's what we're talking

19:40

about. That that we had a whole another

19:42

show in my studio in South Miami. We

19:45

had him a whole another show and we made no

19:47

money off of that. It was a weekly show. We had

19:49

a DJ a mixed show part of it. And

19:51

it's and it looked and sounded just like drink Chat. But if

19:53

you go look at it on YouTube right now, it's drink

19:56

Chance without same. It's just without

19:58

drink Chat. So that's why I credit you. You know,

20:00

I'll talk about you like this when you're not around. I

20:02

credit you because you said he said to me,

20:04

we don't have to change nothing, And

20:07

I was like, if that didn't work,

20:09

why would we do something that didn't

20:11

work, And he was like, it's because we didn't

20:13

see the people, Like he didn't get to the people that they

20:15

were supposed to work with, and you're right,

20:21

So at what point did you get to you?

20:23

It's like fan fuck Rory and mall damn

20:27

bro because

20:32

you just cut them off. It was like, let's go. You

20:36

were just like Joe Button Show.

20:39

Now it was it was. I was like, thank god, it's

20:41

not called nor show. What

20:43

was it? It was? It was called name that podcast.

20:46

Later than the nigga said Joe Button Show.

20:48

You gotta know that, But

20:56

that's not true though, don't care. But I changed the

20:58

name of the podcast long before, for long

21:01

before my previous goals

21:03

left. Okay, like I want to see the

21:05

name. Damn I don't jesus,

21:08

it got real. Um. Yeah,

21:11

when I was trying to figure out, I couldn't get over that

21:14

fifty thousand hump. And

21:16

I couldn't figure out why. Like

21:19

this is twenty fifteen, year one. I remember

21:21

saying to my coals, Yeah,

21:23

why can't this thing? My goal for next year

21:25

is to get this thing over fifty thousand

21:28

listeners? Is this is ridiculous. But

21:31

every time you went to search, you couldn't really

21:33

find much because it was called I don't name this podcast.

21:36

Later, I tried to do the initials acronyms.

21:38

I tried everything, but it was like the

21:40

last thing I wanted thought to do or wanted

21:42

to do was named my shit the

21:45

Joe Budden Podcast. Right,

21:48

But there's an equity that your name carries in

21:51

this business. So I

21:53

run into that problem quite a bit. My last

21:55

album was called Raging the Machine. I did

21:58

at A rap did the whole thing, A rap

22:00

music, A rap, A rap did the whole thing. I

22:04

wanted us to be called a group. I

22:07

wanted did us to have a group name and

22:09

put the second album out under that, Yeah,

22:12

that's what I wanted to do. Joe Rap. Huh

22:14

like Joe Rap, that's the group something

22:17

something like that. Um My

22:19

distributors at the time just didn't see

22:21

that. Because my name had an equity, there was

22:24

a value and that. But for a long

22:26

time I tried not to use the name Joe Budden.

22:29

It's funny they call me a narcissist. I

22:31

see how it looked that with him. But but

22:33

it worked. The second at that we changed

22:36

it to The Joe Budden Show or

22:39

the Joe Budden Podcast. You

22:41

could see the gradual growth from things

22:44

were easy to track now things

22:46

were. It helped it helped tremendously. But

22:50

when it seemed like that might be a problem

22:52

for my co host, we

22:55

added their name. We added

22:57

in it it said the Joe Budden podcast featuring

23:00

Blink and Blink. Rorry almost said that, so

23:02

so because this is a famous clip, Um,

23:05

I want to say, famous clip of a mall

23:08

right, and he's saying, well, don't talk

23:10

to me like that. I want respect,

23:13

I want and and everyone seems

23:15

the things that that's that's about you. You know this clip that

23:17

I'm talking about, all right, Well, it's a clip

23:19

where he goes, um, he

23:22

goes, uh, well

23:25

this certain people can't talk to me like this,

23:28

and I just won't respect, he

23:30

said. So he said, I don't care about the bag because

23:33

some of my closest friends are

23:35

broke, and it's it's all over the internet

23:38

and everyone always not my internet,

23:40

not your internet, everybody else in that problem. But

23:47

um, so, how how how is that

23:49

because you see these guys, um,

23:53

you guys make a separation with regardless of what

23:56

and they go and make this other podcast.

23:58

Is this something that you're you're giving a blessing

24:01

to or there's something like when at the

24:03

time, at the time that all that was going on once

24:05

were not associated anymore. Everybody's free

24:07

to do whatever they wanted to do, right right, And it

24:09

was solely over the name, over the calling it the Joe

24:12

bunden Pocket. Were talking about two

24:14

different things. So what

24:16

was why changed

24:19

the show? Like why I changed the show? And I'm gonna get

24:21

to the show now. But um, like,

24:25

what was what was the was

24:28

it the nail that broke

24:30

the back? What? What? What was it? The

24:33

separation when

24:36

they when we finally yeah, why why

24:38

was it? Um? The

24:40

pub the version that went to the public is that

24:42

I was stealing, that you were stealing?

24:46

Yeah, Why did I hear the opposite? Oh?

24:49

They no, no, no, they thought I was stealing. They

24:53

said that you were stealing. Yeah, fudging number. Are

24:55

you so cute that nigga? Oh no no,

24:57

no, wrong, really no, I'm really

24:59

sure because what

25:01

I had heard was what you heard? All

25:04

right? This is what This is pure industry shit. This

25:06

is not like not anybody

25:09

valid, I love. This is what gets

25:11

black mail podcasters in trouble.

25:14

That one little let me tell you what I

25:16

heard. Look,

25:20

these guys are great, No, no, this is

25:22

this is to be

25:25

careful. No, let

25:27

me overhead back

25:33

So what I heard was a

25:38

bag came in. They

25:40

expected a certain type of bag and

25:45

they didn't get right. But

25:47

the reason why I heard that was because it was

25:49

a week before I believe you criticized

25:52

Gilly and Wallow are not paying the engineer

25:56

and as this timelines, I have no

25:58

idea. So I'm just listening, okay, yeah, yeah no,

26:00

but that's that's that's what I heard. Is

26:02

that because me,

26:05

that's the outside of looking in. I didn't see

26:07

nothing wrong with you, Warrior, and more

26:09

I thought y'all was like a great chemistry.

26:12

Like so, I don't understand where it's

26:14

any problem that happened. You don't have to

26:17

ask him. Sure it's not on your behalf.

26:19

Well, I have nothing negative to say about anybody,

26:21

Damn, Joe, this is great.

26:25

Yeah, yeah, listen. I liked that everybody

26:27

is where they wanted, people doing

26:31

what they want to do with the people that they

26:33

want to do it with. Yes, I support that for everybody.

26:35

So give up for that, give

26:47

up. Gave

26:49

it up for

26:53

Nahna.

26:56

But you guys gonna be fun. Look,

26:58

we did not think he's gonna be a polutely

27:00

correct. Yeah, you gotta rescue if

27:02

we're coming up on two years. This happened two years ago.

27:06

I've done I've done the interviews, they've

27:08

done interviews. Now, everybody's

27:10

been here. Say there's been, he say, she say

27:13

there's been. You bump into people at parties,

27:16

you bump into people at clubs. There's been

27:18

mutual like this in two years.

27:20

You just have done it like there is nothing to

27:22

say about those gentlemen today.

27:25

I hope they're doing what they want to do, and I hope they're doing it well.

27:27

God damn, I love I love this. I

27:30

love this. I wanted

27:32

something else, but I got what I got

27:35

and it's here. But this is a famous that's

27:40

a famous, But you a whole meeting

27:42

recently, right, I believe it's in a club. I'll

27:45

forget where it was. Right, And y'all

27:47

spoke a

27:50

comedian had did a voice

27:52

over of y'all conversation,

27:56

But what was your real conversation? Yeah,

27:58

that's the version you saw the voice of both

28:02

the rumor. But

28:04

let me tell you what, But

28:07

I saw both the

28:10

only sources. The comedian voice you

28:13

don't voice, but

28:16

the way you're saying that, it's hilarious. I

28:18

watched Ball, it's interesting, Cooper

28:21

and that wasn't ship. So what

28:23

was that conversation, Cooper? What was

28:25

that conversation? Like you a home seeing each

28:27

other and just stopping the door. How

28:29

to with the conversation is supposed to be else? I

28:31

don't Barbara Walters, shit, I

28:34

don't know it was. I was. I'm

28:36

a fan. It wasn't a long it wasn't a long time at

28:39

the club, okay, because you know why,

28:41

I'm gonna be honest. That was the time where

28:44

it was only you,

28:47

us and wrap Radar. That's it. There

28:50

was nobody else outside. Now the block

28:52

is flooded. But that's not a

28:54

bad thing. It is It isn't

28:57

man, Yeah, I don't think it. I don't

28:59

think it's a bad thing either. Stay

29:02

inside. I think it's

29:04

dope that we inspire people, whether

29:07

works or not. As different, I don't want to inspire none

29:09

of y'all. Stay all asking. And that's what I mean about

29:11

when I get see. I'm

29:14

not down with that. That's why that's

29:16

why I got killed. I'm

29:19

not down with that. I'm not down with that. Now.

29:22

I'm glad that so many people have

29:24

this option. Yeah I am.

29:26

Okay, So we're gonna act like but the people

29:28

out there that that

29:33

try to take advantage of it, or

29:36

the people that take

29:38

it for granted. Rather, those

29:40

are the people that I'm always talking to in terms of

29:42

failure, because y'all, y'all make it congested.

29:46

They think it's easy. Yeah, the people that think

29:48

it's easy, the people that just that

29:51

make it look bad. You just make it as people out there

29:53

that make it look bad. Like That's why I joke

29:55

about that whole black Nail podcaster thing,

29:58

because the women have ran and with that line,

30:01

and they're right. Every time some

30:03

niggas say something stupid, the ladies

30:05

take it and say, this is why these niggas

30:07

don't need mics, And I'd

30:09

be sitting there like they're right,

30:12

the fuck is this nigga talking about? But that's just somebody

30:15

who went to radio, shot, bought a mic,

30:17

got a neighbor that say stupid shit, sad

30:20

with him. Hey say something stupid here,

30:23

all right? We out of here, all right?

30:26

Makes it tough now for the talent or not

30:28

tough? You see

30:30

the shot. The shot has a whole thing

30:33

about this guy starting to podcast

30:36

from his room and all he's interviewing this

30:38

is his friends, and it's

30:40

fucking awesome. But it's

30:42

it's it's still credit. That's not real. That's

30:44

a show. Just yeah. Every

30:47

show that that I cut on is about a podcast

30:49

then there. Yeah, I love

30:51

and hate it. Now that's

30:53

dope. If we inspired it, that's dope. If we influence

30:56

it, that's dope. Again. Like watching Chris

30:58

Rock and he's got to mention drink

31:00

Chad cast come

31:02

on even though

31:05

he freestyle that. And I hit Envy

31:07

and I hit Charlotte Mane. I was like, did y'all call

31:09

him a bitch? Because I didn't, And

31:12

Charlot Mane was like, but we love the shot

31:14

out. I said for show off because

31:16

we gotta love the shot out. You know the nigga said something fell

31:18

about m Yeah yeah, yeah, they say something problem. You must

31:21

have said something foul. What's up with Angela

31:23

leaving the Bretherst Club? How do you feel about that? I

31:25

don't you don't you don't wish? I was sure the greatest,

31:28

Yes, he comes on, this

31:30

is the Ruined Department. Yeah,

31:33

I don't. I fuck with Angela. I

31:36

hope the show wins. I

31:38

don't have no you just's no celicious tea

31:41

that just trying. We went viral last Mary

31:43

you give me to go what that's because you took it upon

31:45

yourself to say, listen, fu

31:48

nigga, fuck him,

31:50

fuck him, him, fuck him. I

31:53

did the fuck you part of the Joe

31:55

Budden experience. I did. I said

31:57

fuck you to everybody that was outside that you could

31:59

possibly stay too. That's not my

32:01

forties and fifties. I don't want to design that

32:03

way. I don't want to live and you're still

32:05

out here. Yeah,

32:08

my baby, that's it? What

32:11

what? Who I need to be with one of the snipers

32:14

in the game. You're

32:16

gonna parish. You're the worst

32:19

right now. Bro. Listen,

32:22

man, I've been married sixteen years. Man, congratulations,

32:26

sh I live a boring life, man, I

32:30

watched Drake. No, you don't watch

32:33

You do not live a boring I watched French one

32:35

Town. The greats

32:38

are you're telling the greats. That's the greatest.

32:40

He's talk about the greats right now. Great snipers. Man,

32:42

that'll shoot you from Brooklyn and

32:45

wind Wood, from Winnenwood. They'll

32:47

shoot you in bokn Joe

32:50

and your day. Your

32:55

jersey is up there. Thank you, man, thank

32:57

you. I

33:00

appreciate it. The jerseys so damn you

33:02

want to give me flowers again right now? No,

33:08

no, no, and Joe

33:10

day man, Man your

33:13

day man. I don't know if your dad has passed or if

33:15

it's still present, but I'm just being honest.

33:18

I'm just being honest. Fast it is over. My day

33:20

is over. You make us proud, man, You made

33:22

us proud. Made every light skin

33:24

nigga in here saluted you in

33:27

a different way when you walk through

33:29

the door. No,

33:40

no, no, no, let's name the greatest snipers.

33:43

Let's leave the greatest snipers, the greatest

33:45

snipers. Drake number

33:47

one, hands down, listen. No want to put together

33:50

your Navy Seal team right now? Or

33:52

if I if I'm putting the Navy

33:54

Seal team, break number

33:56

water. I'm not captain

34:00

team captain. We are.

34:03

I'm listening to him. I'm not putting drink number

34:05

one. No, no, not drinking number one. I

34:07

mean, is this just a hip hop list? Okay,

34:09

let's let's go, because I know you got beef, Michael

34:11

B. Jordan, So I'm not gonna be on your least nigga.

34:16

Find some beef. I mean, not have people body

34:18

who beat short he snipe one of your shorties,

34:21

They seen it. If he did, he might not. I don't know. And

34:23

you that's what because that comments seemed little

34:25

personal, which comment Michael

34:28

B. Jordan seemed

34:34

like he did something too. Is that just good? But let me

34:36

ask you, is that if it did come

34:38

off that way, wouldn't that just be

34:40

good podcasting? Ye don't

34:43

know, tremendous? What are you what

34:45

I'm saying? Of course I don't have the ship back

34:47

to and I was like, man, Nigga seemed too

34:49

invested. He seemed to

34:52

salty. I didn't. Yeah, everybody was going

34:54

hard. But oh because he said

34:56

you corny, But Joe, let's be clear, that was corny.

34:59

All right. Let's seeing as the problem is just not enough niggas

35:02

keeping it real and entertainment, because it's entertainment.

35:04

It's entertainment. So you niggas just out

35:06

of here showing the ass. They want

35:08

to spoof everything from the nineties except for that energy

35:11

with niggas kept it real. I'm just saying, what's real?

35:13

If any one of us double back to this to

35:15

chick from seventh grade, it's while we up up

35:17

up, They're gonna call us quantity. Yeah, that's

35:20

what. It's not deeper than that. But he

35:25

just he just reminded her.

35:29

That's a difference you could dis if I'm reminding

35:31

you at the height of

35:34

my shit while you down there

35:36

doing a service at me, I could

35:38

see my co host doing that exact thing

35:40

and probably and

35:44

irning. If

35:46

Nori did that shit, I would call a no.

35:49

Alright, I'm gonna be honest, but I don't have a bet

35:51

for them. And then too many people said that I do.

35:54

So if I if I come off, if I

35:56

came off that way, I do want to party. It's a picture

35:58

on the internet with you and a certain girl

36:01

with a voice over the

36:08

internet, with you with the girl, and then him with

36:10

the girl, and they just running with that. It's like, this is the

36:12

reason why Joe is mad. I guess because I do

36:15

seem mad. But I mean, but

36:17

I seem mad oftening. But

36:20

that's not real, by the way, Yeah, I

36:23

think it is. What's hilarious is content

36:25

creates mad content. Yes, that is the

36:28

same. Yeah, it's true. It's like, yeah,

36:31

yeah, holy if

36:34

he popped on his mind, I don't know about it. I'm not

36:36

angry at him. I'm not mad at him. So Michael B.

36:38

Jordan walked through right now, you will give him a pope. Yeah,

36:41

oh yeah, what's he supposed

36:44

to do? How long? Because she got

36:46

real? You went getting real. Yeah,

36:48

that's the other thing in mount content. Did not get real

36:51

content. It was about nothing. No, but

36:53

you looked in the camera. You said, this

36:56

is why they call you Cory.

36:58

I ain't gonna lie. He might sting, be

37:00

honest, might

37:03

cream, he might cread you. I've

37:06

been waiting. Hey,

37:12

let me let y'all know that would be to end up my content

37:14

days. I'm taking him to the cleaner, Joe.

37:18

Let me just say I'm suing. Not happening

37:21

number one. No, No, you

37:24

rich. You have to be rich, though, you

37:26

gotta be rich. You're gonna take the because listen, jokes,

37:29

jokes got your boxes. If you broke, we'll just

37:31

fight. But if you're rich, I'm one hundred percent soon

37:34

never parting again. So Chris

37:36

ro wait for and

37:40

the Chris ROXI you

37:42

sing and Chris Roxon's rased. Somebody come on, Michael

37:45

B. J want to come to you and say the ship, my

37:48

wife name out your mouth and smack you. You

37:50

saying I'm suing Michael B. And

37:52

the Jordan Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's serving

37:54

the papers from I

37:58

don't know, but I'm talking

38:00

shit, but it do seem fun to do. Like

38:03

in the nineties, niggas that you was beating

38:05

up or getting hit that we're hitting

38:07

you. They weren't Mike millionaires, so you could that

38:10

was an option. Still had to just go

38:12

to school next day. But if but if Michael

38:14

B. Jordan called you right now said Joe, we got to shoot

38:16

the film. That's the problem. This nigga's name is too hot. See,

38:18

that's why you're doing that. Niggas do it and when the name is

38:21

out, we're doing that. But come on, let's do it, all right. But you

38:23

know when you say the full name, Michael be Jordan's Michael

38:25

B. Jordan. Yeah, yeah, And when you try to segue

38:28

from it, he keep bringing it back. All

38:30

right, But if

38:33

he asked you, if he asked you for a fair

38:35

one, what is Joe Buttons going in the next creed like

38:40

that at the back. But if

38:43

you say man, Joe, man

38:46

me and you don't, I don't know what

38:50

happens. What did

38:53

you just say? What you go on the phone like Michael,

38:55

Joanna want to fight me? But nah,

39:00

you say no, no, I mean, if you wanted to we could

39:02

I guess no, because you

39:04

know you say shit like that. Then them celebrity boxing

39:06

nigga jo jo jo

39:10

hear me, I got an opportunity to white. You're

39:14

not many of them jumping

39:16

my dealt C

39:20

like, no, nigga, no not

39:22

fighting anybody did this? Nigga say

39:24

cook because that's my man. They

39:27

look for anybody that they think that there's some something

39:29

with it's my point. Yeah, you definitely

39:31

went solo on slaughter House too. As soon

39:33

as you didn't like eminem deal, he

39:36

was out. But

39:40

you clambing, you clambing the We're

39:44

not going back on your career. We're just going back to rulers.

39:46

Yeah, I have controversially stuff.

39:49

I clearly made this up. Everyone struggle

39:54

this dear question rapped here. But

39:56

but that too

39:58

unscared. Let us be clear.

40:01

You win Royce. At one point it looked like

40:03

you were Royce sided with each

40:06

other. And he's

40:08

a messy nigga. It's

40:11

a messy ass nigga. Yo.

40:15

Yeah, he

40:18

just left. He just left

40:20

movie trap. He ain't been out,

40:23

he ain't have president, he ain't have fresh sunlight.

40:25

But five hours before

40:28

he gets right, he still

40:30

smell like listen sun didn't even

40:33

make it sudden shie

40:36

point. It looked like it looked like Joel

40:40

and Royce is in the sunlight

40:43

and Crooked and Joel. It's

40:46

kind of like in I don't want to

40:48

say, you don't say it. Okay,

40:51

if you don't want to say, I don't want to say. But

40:54

and I love podcasting, I

40:57

say, but treme my mic

40:59

up my. But it

41:01

looked like that, right, it

41:03

looked like that, and my level is good? Am

41:06

I clear about to say something

41:08

I never said before? I

41:10

got you? But they looked

41:12

like that from the outside is looking in from the internet,

41:16

I don't say, looking at it as his favorite ship too. That's

41:19

the ship I'm

41:23

glad you're picking up on all. That's

41:26

that's what we're great together, you know. That's how the internet

41:28

took it and didn't. It seemed like Joe

41:31

Wall and Crooked got together and they made

41:33

this whole album and um,

41:35

it's kind of like they were shading you and Roice.

41:40

I see how one could take it that way. Okay,

41:43

you at that party asked them about

41:45

what they were doing. Well, they were just sharing

41:47

the truth, they said that, so,

41:51

but but what what the Sloughter House again?

41:53

Me is an outside of looking in. Come on, give me

41:56

the blame. I'll take it. I'll take the blame. I ruined, I

41:58

ruined everything, everything that you love. I've

42:00

ruined that ship. I believe you. Yeah, I think,

42:02

I said, I think, I think. I think.

42:05

We don't even because this again, even that's ten

42:07

years long of just stories and

42:10

talking. Hey, I did it. It was huge.

42:12

I didn't know it was me. It was me? What slaughter house

42:14

it was me? Yes? That one, Yes, it was

42:16

me. Okay, I gotta I gotta ask particular

42:19

it was. Look,

42:22

because rumor has it One

42:27

gave y'all a tremendous deal and Shady

42:29

Records gave y'all a tretendous

42:32

deal. I won't.

42:34

I don't. I don't know about what was tremendous

42:37

and what wasn't. I think E One gave us

42:39

an opportunity. I think Shady gave us an

42:41

opportunity. Grateful

42:43

for both, like which one was more

42:45

lucrative? Who knows?

42:48

I don't. I don't think our business

42:50

was being done the

42:52

right way anyway at the time, so I couldn't say did

42:54

you have one manager? No, we hadn't

42:57

four managers. Four managers that

42:59

sounds like, I'm that was terrible sound.

43:03

I did try to bring one person

43:05

to manage the group's entity at one

43:07

point and that didn't go well. You

43:09

know what, I love rumors

43:12

and I love rumors and voiceovers,

43:14

and this is a rumor. How

43:18

you how how many voiceovers

43:20

are gonna come out? How slaughter House got formed?

43:23

I believe you did a record towards Royce.

43:26

Royce did the record towards you, and y'all started to dis

43:28

records. Yeah, and then Joel

43:31

came in, and then that is that how it forms?

43:34

No you conflating things, but it

43:37

was. But I guess all

43:39

that's true at different points I did. I

43:41

did a record that wasn't

43:43

the friendliest to Royce, but I never put it out

43:45

because him and I got cool, and then it got leaked, and

43:48

then he had this. There was something back and forth

43:51

going on, and we squashed that, and then

43:54

I reached out for verse because it was squashed

43:57

and that was a slaughter House track. It was me, Royce,

43:59

Crook, Joe Hell and No

44:01

Blessed and the reaction

44:04

was great, so we just kept it up like

44:06

it was really a simple that you had to add.

44:08

In the West Coast, guy. No cricks

44:10

On was on that song, so

44:13

we kept everybody from the song except for Nino

44:16

blessed. Oh no bless ye. Let

44:18

me shout out to him. Yeah, shout out to ever

44:21

be up whatever? Another quick

44:24

another slaughter house, like

44:26

what you like? Ever like go to Maullible

44:28

for two weeks. That would be dope just for fans. O

44:30

just yeah, like, I don't care. I heard,

44:35

not about fans. I

44:38

don't care about. I don't care about. It

44:41

turns the way they could dictate my action, not

44:43

about like music, take and

44:49

do something. I don't care about your birthday

44:53

fans asking no, I'm coming

44:56

up, coming up. It

44:58

true the truth that I

45:01

would be a great look for like the fans,

45:04

Like I wish I could tell you all that goes

45:06

into like putting the album out, like I

45:08

know, all of the blood, sweat, tears,

45:11

equity, soul searching, reflecting,

45:14

lonely nights, hungry nights, sleepless

45:17

nights that go into You've left that completely

45:19

behind. What I'm saying it again,

45:22

it certainly is not going to be because the fans.

45:24

It's because monetarily. It's a reason for

45:26

it. Not monetarily, Like my son asked,

45:29

me for I thought that was fly. I

45:31

didn't do it. Oh shit, stop,

45:36

what did you just say? I

45:39

said, my son asked me for a verse and I thought

45:41

that was fly. I didn't

45:43

do it, but I considered

45:45

it. Why

45:48

didn't you do it? Because even picking up

45:50

your mom for like three albums now, I don't get

45:52

a verset, y'all.

45:58

And that's a joke. He did not

46:00

just say. I

46:02

think the album is called Mama's Boys

46:05

Tattoo. Now, no get

46:10

WA's he

46:12

wanted me to intro. That's

46:15

my baby. Man, I'm joking.

46:17

I'm talking shit talking. But

46:20

Joe, let me ask you that question.

46:22

At you right for the right

46:24

money? Would you go in and make another out

46:27

for the right money? So it's not it's not

46:29

a monetary thing. It's not money like

46:31

see how I said my son asking me was fly like,

46:34

so you didn't do it, So that didn't didn't

46:36

matter. No, But if something is flied,

46:39

like I'm gonna consider it's not gonna be money to get

46:41

me to a studio to lay on. It's not gonna money like

46:43

I have money like Hove call you today

46:45

and say I want to do pump it up right now? Pumping

46:48

up again? Again that that would

46:51

be ridiculous first

46:53

time you messed up. Can't say

46:55

no no more, Joe, No, I can't If one

46:57

of the greatest rappers ever called me, that's

46:59

all all of them okay, and say yo, let

47:01

me get a verse. No, I need to go

47:04

brush up. He call you right

47:06

now? You didn't catch me. I need to go brush up. That's

47:08

big, that's whole, that's

47:10

black thought, that's Royce, that's whoever

47:13

it is. That's right. You're

47:15

not just calling me out of bed. Ain't wrote a verse in eight

47:17

years. So how about call that black?

47:20

I love called that black? Did he call you, said,

47:22

Joe, I'm never no, no, no, no, no,

47:24

no, that's not must No,

47:27

that's not Where Where did it go from doing your verse?

47:30

I don't know. I just want to do a cool up must tape? Why

47:32

so we can go do a record that will fucking get all

47:34

the streams in the world and then be paid fucking half

47:36

a penny, half and half and half and

47:38

half and half a penny for it. No the

47:40

fuck the niggas. Yes, that part

47:43

of being liberated is not being trapped

47:45

in that system. For me, like

47:47

nigga kickers are wrap, I have to have

47:50

something that a message that I wanted to say. It

47:52

has to go back to the root of how

47:54

hip hop was birth. We had something to say, like

47:57

and I have something to say. I just don't know

48:01

how you stopped through the

48:04

way you're talking about. I was like, you thought what would

48:06

inspire you? No, I

48:08

mean, as you age, you think about finality.

48:12

You want like a public enemy moment type

48:15

of record. I want a record

48:17

to hear how this version of Joe

48:19

Budden would sound, or an EP to

48:22

hear how this version of Joe Budden would

48:24

sound right, because I've never heard

48:26

from him, y'all.

48:28

They've never heard him. They've

48:31

heard me when I was using

48:33

rap to stay alive and survive, and this

48:35

was just my therapy and my confessional. What

48:37

the move today is it

48:40

would be different. It would be my mind

48:42

is different, mine, everything is.

48:44

I'm not I'm not gonna lie to you. Bro Um.

48:48

It's my first time in Miami without smoking a cigarette.

48:51

Congratulations you want a cigarette? What

48:54

a bad friend? Oh my bad? I stopped smoking

48:56

sirett Anna

48:59

lie It's all right, It's all

49:01

right, Joe. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm not gonna lie to

49:03

you. This is Ron honest. When

49:06

you were doing the mood music and

49:08

you would go to so Obs and you would

49:11

sell that shit out, and you would sell

49:13

it out with no features. You

49:16

would just come and just

49:18

talk to the crowd. And I would go

49:20

there a couple nights and I would sneak in and

49:23

I would just look because I didn't understand.

49:26

To me, that's the evolution

49:28

of us taking control

49:31

of our own culture because you were

49:33

independent at that time, correct, and

49:35

you were doing these moved music Wise move

49:37

music us move. And then you would go

49:40

to Sobs and it would be sold out, and

49:42

I would sit there and I was like, all right, cool, I want

49:44

to see what this ship because none of this music

49:47

was on the radio. Oh yeah, No, none of this music

49:49

was on the radio. So I would sit back and I would be like, this

49:52

is this. This can't be real. And

49:54

I would go and I would look and I would be like, wow,

49:57

I would see how much. I would go right in the back

50:00

and I would just see you perform records

50:02

that I've never heard on the radio,

50:04

Records that I have never heard, but

50:07

the fans knew every

50:09

single word. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest

50:11

with you, face to face, man to man, I can't

50:13

believe you don't rap no more. I hear

50:15

that all the time. Though, I'm not gonna

50:18

lie to you. There's a lot of people who

50:20

don't wrap no more because the

50:23

people are not listening to them, so

50:25

it's convenient for them to say, I don't wrap. You

50:28

are not that person. No, I think there's a lot

50:30

of people that either want to hear me wrap or

50:32

want to tear me down when I start. I

50:35

think there's a lot. I think there's a lot of those people

50:37

out there. They want to hear what I have to say or kick

50:40

my back in as soon as I try to say something. Wow.

50:42

So there's people out there, but nah, Yeah,

50:45

it's mastering the pivot. It's what I think you've been

50:47

able to do. You've been able to Thank

50:50

God. Thank God, though yeah, thank

50:52

God. Like if you let the music industry

50:54

determine your faith, you'll

50:57

be fucked. You'll be fucked. So thank

50:59

thank the Lord, Dad, I'm

51:01

able to do that. Thank the Lord that my

51:03

fans have traveled with me. So

51:06

you do care about your fans. Let's because the way

51:08

you said, I always give about my fans. Yeah,

51:11

I always get that crucial time he's talking about

51:13

these are loyal, diehard fans carried

51:16

on to this day. But by the way, I went, by

51:18

the way, let me just tell you something, and I never told

51:20

you this ever. I was also in Boston,

51:22

Rhode Island, and I'm not snuck into

51:25

your shows, and I was just sitting there, just walking

51:27

with the hood of your This is before Instagram, obviously,

51:30

and I would just look and I was like, Yo, this

51:32

guy got real loyal fans. So it was

51:34

it was It was easy

51:38

for me to see you transitioned to podcasting

51:40

and seeing your fans following

51:43

from there to there. But there's

51:46

a lot of people that that can't do that good

51:50

and a lot of won't pivot. A lot of people

51:52

don't pivot. It's very difficult for them to move.

51:54

But it's definitely it's never just to go back to what

51:57

he was saying, it's never fuck fuck the fans

52:00

like that was my response to would

52:03

you do it for the fan? No, because

52:06

if you don't know the business, they'll try to get you to

52:08

do everything for a look or it's

52:11

a good look or the fans. No, I'm not doing

52:13

that for that. But as far as the fans,

52:15

no, No, I've been working with I've

52:18

been talking to them since two thousand. Directly

52:22

labeled labels didn't have social media

52:24

departments when I was doing that, new

52:26

media departments, they didn't exist. Now,

52:29

you really got in the comments for everybody doing

52:32

that. No, I ain't gonna lie to you. What you were doing

52:34

back then was remarkable. I'm

52:36

being honest you. And it's

52:39

gonna sound crazy what I'm about to say, but

52:42

you set it up for Russ to be who Russ

52:45

is. I love Russ, love

52:47

what he's doing, but Russ, if it's

52:50

crazy to say, to put this to

52:53

that bridge, that bridge. Joe was

52:55

the first person I've seen selling independent

52:58

hard ticket sales without

53:01

a label. I have never

53:03

saw that before. And I

53:06

was, you know, I was. I want to call it purgatory,

53:08

right, I'm in between heaven

53:10

and hell, right, but I'm still

53:13

living. My mortgage is still paid. But I know I

53:15

gotta do something else. And I'm sitting around

53:17

and I'm like, all right, cool, because independent. I hated

53:19

being independent and I've always said it. I'm

53:22

gonna say it again. Independent is for independent.

53:28

You can't you can't forget like strange music, which

53:30

you guys toured with they were doing it. Yeah,

53:33

even Hiero Glyphiths going backward. First,

53:35

I was not successful being independent.

53:37

I do not like it. I do not support

53:40

it. I do not recommend it. That's just me. That

53:42

doesn't mean that you can't go independent.

53:44

As mean you can't go independent as to me my

53:47

personal experience. So when

53:49

I'm seeing my friend of mine, this is a friend,

53:51

this is, this is I got this number,

53:53

I could call him, but I was just like, I just want to

53:55

see the real the realness to it. So

53:58

I was in Rhode Island and

54:00

you happened to be there, and I was in Boston

54:03

and I came and I was like, this nigga sold

54:05

out the SLB's of Rhode Island too.

54:08

Then he sold out in Bostons

54:11

of Boston whatever the five hundred

54:13

cap room was, anywhere in the

54:15

Northeast. Yes, I'm a legend

54:18

there. And what's crazy is

54:21

none of these records are on the radio, So

54:23

I don't I don't know how, not a one. They

54:26

would have killed me if I did pump it up in one. I'm saying, um,

54:30

how to assess this? Because that's my only

54:33

whole career is my record has to be on the

54:35

radio. If my records not on the radio, it's

54:37

not considered a hit. I can't sell out shows.

54:39

Meanwhile, this is my friend, I'm

54:42

seeing him, I'm in the state, and

54:44

he sold out. Not

54:46

one record was on the radio. Now,

54:48

wait while that while you're doing that run,

54:51

are you wishing that you had records

54:54

on the radio? Are you comfortable

54:57

that was a trap? The radio records

55:00

and the co sign that came comes

55:02

with, and the contract that that comes

55:05

with, all of that ship for me early

55:08

on was a myth. I didn't want to be trapping that. I

55:10

wanted to have a direct line to my fans

55:13

and my music right Like

55:15

again in two thousand and one, I

55:18

was trying to play Today's game then and

55:21

Kevin Lows looked at me like I was a Martian. Hey,

55:23

I made this song yesterday on the put

55:26

this song out tomorrow. Hey my album has been done?

55:28

Why why is it? Well? It was

55:30

going on. I just hey, why

55:32

the commercials say? Why the commercials

55:35

say my album is coming? Like

55:38

like you Fat Cavs Kinney scale

55:42

out of both Yeah, but yeah, yeah,

55:44

this was fact drug more with Skinnycalf.

55:47

But I love Fatcalf as well. Yeah.

55:50

Oh no, Yeah. At the time, he didn't understand

55:52

that she wasn't with none of that ship I was talking about.

55:54

Today niggas could do what they want. Yesip

55:57

record at twelve o'clock twelve

56:00

yeah one, yeah,

56:03

No, we didn't have that. You know what, it

56:05

was the wild wild West back then. We I

56:07

just realized and Wade and that's

56:10

the time now of this. That's

56:12

the birth of the

56:14

Superstar executive too. Now in two

56:16

thousand and two thousand and one, that's when that

56:19

that's when Superstar

56:22

Nigga. No, not even Leo's

56:25

the other niggas head graded Kaiser

56:27

is a superstar. Back

56:29

is coming to Superstar Now, Bigger

56:32

is coming, Leo.

56:35

I'm talking about everybody. Big up Mike Kaiser, that's

56:37

my brother. That's what I'm saying. I didn't even talk about. But other

56:39

people. Kaiser is a rock star, but other there's other

56:41

people that was like, all right, got

56:44

it. That was the age of oh this budget

56:46

money is just moving around in

56:49

this building at the Fantasy League you

56:51

Kaiser, yeah, rule

56:54

ye start Yes,

56:56

the Money League, that's my money

56:59

league. This Yeah, what

57:02

is this? Because I feel like making

57:04

a lot of money. I feel like this is a little but you're

57:06

making a lot of money. Okay,

57:10

because I keep seeing y'all forty forty it's

57:12

you, Mike, Kaiser, jab Rule,

57:15

g Spend, Spend, Earth,

57:18

Gotti and Bumby.

57:21

What does y'all bets start at twenty

57:24

K I can't say. I

57:26

can't publicly say it's not my place. By the way,

57:28

I'm not the commissioner that commissioner of that

57:31

league there too. Oh no,

57:33

no, no, but I'm not the commissioner of that league. It's

57:36

a private secret thing. I can't speak on it. I've

57:39

been getting crashed. This is at Just

57:41

know at the end of the year. I have paid every

57:44

time it's gone for about five six years

57:46

now. Just so y'all know this is him and he's

57:49

in the Rumina. Wait

57:52

what man?

57:54

I clapping? You

57:57

believe? I don't believe. Okay,

58:01

I believe in something that exists, but the

58:03

way that people think that

58:05

it is not okay. I don't believe it because

58:07

I would sacrifice my family members immediately.

58:10

I agree with that. I think there's

58:12

a little nan but it's not what people think of it. Yeah,

58:14

yeah, it is. But and you know what it is.

58:17

It's the top shelf people

58:19

and they don't really kind of like want to they

58:21

were whole, I would think that they

58:24

want nas. You know about

58:29

it. Did you see na show recently

58:32

at the garden as a garden? No, I

58:34

mean I saw a clipse of the course. I can't lie to you,

58:36

bro, you know. Um.

58:41

It's probably one of the hardest

58:45

phone calls I've ever met made

58:47

because we had podcasts that day, so

58:49

I have to text someone say, yo, Bro, I can't

58:51

make it. And it wasn't him that

58:54

I was concerned with. It was Jungle

58:56

because Jungle has been there for me so much.

58:58

Man, I love Jungle like and

59:01

Joe said you're not coming and and

59:03

it was a text, but I heard him

59:05

yelling like, you're not coming.

59:09

He didn't. It wasn't all caps or nothing, but it

59:11

was just like and I was like, damn. And

59:15

then I seen Nahs give a shout out

59:17

to his mother who used to work across

59:20

the street from Madison Square Garden at the

59:22

post office. And for us

59:24

living from Queens go into Manhattan,

59:26

period, you made it. I

59:29

don't give a fuck. If you

59:31

can leave Queens and

59:34

get over that fifty ninth Street bridge, you

59:36

could get on the R train, You get on the E train

59:39

and you could get into Manhattan from

59:42

seventy fourth and Rose or Jackson Heights, and

59:44

you transfer that train and you get into

59:47

Manhattan. And when I see

59:49

Nah say that, it's just like I just I literally

59:51

cried. I don't. I literally

59:54

cried, and I'm a bitch has niggas

59:56

because I should have called him and I should have said this,

59:58

so the first time you're gonna hear this just here. But

1:00:01

I felt him so much because

1:00:05

of you know, being

1:00:09

a rapper is a very hard job. What

1:00:13

do you think it's harder being a rapper being

1:00:15

a podcaster? Oh,

1:00:18

being a rapper, Yeah, I agree,

1:00:20

being a rapper, I don't. I don't even think there's any competition.

1:00:25

We were just listening to your song and

1:00:27

you were saying, NBA on

1:00:31

your song, Okay, never

1:00:34

broke again. Now

1:00:36

that's a famous rapper who

1:00:39

I'm a fan of. I'm kind of scared of him. You

1:00:41

me too, But

1:00:44

I'm a fan of NBA. Never broke like I

1:00:47

don't want to say nothing wrong about

1:00:50

him. Why are you saying

1:00:52

that he's saying not living like that? No more. Listen,

1:00:54

man, he has

1:00:57

he has what it is to be

1:01:00

a star, one million

1:01:02

percent but you had a song saying

1:01:05

uh, yeah,

1:01:07

did you did you think you

1:01:09

him had I was older conversation?

1:01:13

No, I don't think. I don't think I'm old anything.

1:01:15

Okay, yeah, no, I don't

1:01:17

think a conversation. I don't think he owes me

1:01:20

anything now because

1:01:22

um sometimes

1:01:25

that's that that happens, Like you know, young

1:01:28

guys, they think that they made up something

1:01:30

that's already been made up. Yeah.

1:01:33

No, but even with that right, like I got

1:01:35

that song, then who made

1:01:37

that hook? I forget his name, but these niggas know him.

1:01:39

He needed to raid all the popping hooks like I

1:01:42

gave that hook was on that beat, Like I wouldn't

1:01:44

even take credit for it, but I

1:01:47

see, I get it. He might have said something about it

1:01:49

before I said, like picked you up.

1:01:52

Maybe I don't know. I don't know because

1:01:54

you can't blame that doesn't

1:01:56

know that period. And then to me, it's

1:01:59

just not even in a board. It's like, ok here, I

1:02:01

don't care what none of y'all got your name, bro, Like

1:02:03

how many records in the nineties that we thought this

1:02:06

was purely coming out of these people,

1:02:08

like they thought of these rhymes? Like how many records

1:02:10

that everyone turn to something that was in the age. Everyone's

1:02:13

calling everyone slime. You

1:02:17

mean, are you salty about it? Salty?

1:02:23

Salty? Yeah, just finding that. No,

1:02:26

No, let me just be clear. All

1:02:30

right, look, just so y'all know, because I feel

1:02:33

terrible that these drinks are still here. So I'm gonna

1:02:35

finish them off, all right, But how

1:02:37

are you a hater if you at the top of your

1:02:39

field. No, it's not a hater. They not really be

1:02:41

honest. I'm gonna be honest. The thing about

1:02:44

it is, slime

1:02:46

was invented. Let me tell you how slim was invented

1:02:49

by up to my brother down Lazy wherever you

1:02:51

at. I love told this story quite a bit on it.

1:02:53

Let me tell it again. You let

1:02:55

me tell it again. Down Lazy went and

1:02:58

said, down Lazy is the hugest pork eat

1:03:00

up I've ever known. He

1:03:02

eats the pigs everything. So

1:03:06

Dann Leazis came to me and said, Slime,

1:03:08

I'm going to the store to get

1:03:11

a pepperdine sandwich. Pepperdine

1:03:14

sounded like palk to me, I

1:03:16

said, Neil. Come to find

1:03:18

out pepperdine was a version of turkey.

1:03:22

He comes to the studio, I said, oh,

1:03:24

let me get a half. This is exactly

1:03:26

how slime started. He said, it's

1:03:28

a slime mask nigga. He

1:03:33

said, Yo, I just asked you, did you

1:03:35

want to hear? You said no? And

1:03:39

from that version on what we wanted

1:03:41

to do. This is what's crazy about

1:03:44

slang, because I also invented

1:03:46

the word hate, raide and jump

1:03:48

off. Look,

1:03:52

we'll get to that. This

1:03:56

is fucked up about slang. Pepe

1:04:00

who use that as a gang terminology.

1:04:03

They say, you slim, then you

1:04:05

affiliated with a certain gang. Your

1:04:09

niggas is bozos. Oh

1:04:12

we're paying it. And I'm

1:04:14

gonna say this because I'm

1:04:16

the person that makes I did not invent the words

1:04:19

slime. I did not invent the word slime,

1:04:21

but I made it famous. And

1:04:26

it was always used to just be slid,

1:04:29

you slim, you you you missed

1:04:32

your flight, you slime, And it was

1:04:34

also kind of to replace the word

1:04:36

nigga. So it's kind of

1:04:38

like positive that it was kind

1:04:40

of it it created to

1:04:42

be positive, and now the way they

1:04:45

use it, I'm so disgusted

1:04:48

because I recently just seemed

1:04:50

like two young dudes and

1:04:52

they just like, yo, slim, and then I just

1:04:55

I've watched them, and I

1:04:57

literally wanted to shoot them both. If

1:05:00

I was still in that era,

1:05:03

I really wanted to be like, why

1:05:07

would you? Like? Why would you? And

1:05:12

this is something that I'm a part of. It's something

1:05:14

that I broke to the game. Uh.

1:05:17

I met young thug once

1:05:22

in one of his homies. Said he grabbed

1:05:24

me and said, this is the big

1:05:26

sli. I

1:05:29

enjoyed that. Okay, incriminating yourself, cool,

1:05:32

come in, that can be fun. Ain't

1:05:35

humping out. Actually I've

1:05:37

never met anybody else. No, I'm

1:05:40

not big, medium or small slime.

1:05:42

Yeah, no, I don't know what slime is. The

1:05:44

Nickelodeon ship from the ceiling, the

1:05:47

green and ship they they can take it, say

1:05:49

I took the ship. I don't get it coming

1:05:52

out. Everything we're doing quick time,

1:05:54

sly are we? We gotta make it quick?

1:05:57

All right? Go ahead? Yeah, we don't have to have a lot of time.

1:06:00

We don't have a lot of time. We gotta go, Joe, we

1:06:02

gotta go nor ate up all the time. Yes,

1:06:04

I get me at I'm heading headed to the

1:06:06

pool. Yo. And you didn't you you

1:06:09

officially let me tell you something. You officially

1:06:11

a rapper up and officially

1:06:14

an og because

1:06:17

when I'm younger than all these niggas. Yeah,

1:06:19

yes, yes, yes we are. Um, but

1:06:21

we invited you to booby Trap last night, and

1:06:24

then we said booby Trap and then um

1:06:27

the drink chance. You said I can't do both. I

1:06:29

said, that's officially old. I

1:06:33

rather check back. And

1:06:35

that was. That was after a nap. I

1:06:38

just woke up. Its two in the morning.

1:06:40

No, no, ready, get here yet, like

1:06:42

wait, want, yes, they want

1:06:45

at three thirty booby trapps foul y'all.

1:06:49

Y'all live different out here in

1:06:51

a quick time slid none of the women

1:06:54

and booby Trap or find enough for me to

1:06:56

leave a bed and get to y'all at

1:06:58

three thirty in the morning. At my age,

1:07:00

I wake up at four. I beg to different.

1:07:02

Joe, you're

1:07:05

married, I know you don't, y

1:07:09

Yeah, definitely is a club last night.

1:07:13

It was like Christmas. Text me about

1:07:15

it, and I was

1:07:17

the guy with my wife. I was the guy in the club

1:07:19

with my wife. I was the guy. I was that nigga.

1:07:22

Everybody looking at me like, look at

1:07:24

that, y'all. I'm

1:07:30

sorry, guys, Yes it was me. What

1:07:32

time did y'all leave? I left

1:07:35

at six and I still was here and

1:07:38

we still can't moved

1:07:40

to Miami. I

1:07:42

don't condone that. So we got

1:07:44

QuickTime the house with time. All right, let's do it, let's

1:07:47

go. You know what it is, right, yea, explain the rule. It's when

1:07:49

you get anybody in trouble. Yes, all right, two choices

1:07:52

like one, we don't drink. Pick two or neither

1:07:55

we're drinking. Got it, got it, let's go.

1:07:57

It's water anyway. First one is big

1:08:00

el or Biggie Biggie Tupac

1:08:04

or DMX Tupac. You

1:08:06

know I'm reading any of these now, I'm just noticing

1:08:09

you. You you're wearing a redd and wing. You

1:08:11

ain't got nobody way,

1:08:20

We're engaged. We're engaged. We're engaging. Okay, congratulations,

1:08:23

congratulations, sip

1:08:26

to that you listen. We found out he was engaged

1:08:28

through Instagram being

1:08:33

the whole group chat. They can't

1:08:35

tell nobody nothing. Boris

1:08:38

didn't know me. Boris and Charles was talking like what's

1:08:40

going on here? Eddie,

1:08:44

Giggs and Paul. We say, what the fuck is going on?

1:08:46

And kinda got continue you

1:08:50

motherfucker's and kinda add ticket on

1:08:53

million dollars worth The game of rap Radar if

1:08:58

you want to explain any of this, you can which

1:09:00

rap braid are I mean, whichever

1:09:03

one? Oh, there's two sides. Yeah,

1:09:05

they just came back. They just came back. Whatever

1:09:07

version you want to add to this equation,

1:09:10

I'm gonna say rap braidar because they were first.

1:09:12

Okay, they've probably let pave

1:09:15

some of the way from them. We love beat Guy

1:09:17

and we love Elliott Wilson even

1:09:19

though the train. But Elliott

1:09:22

with Vicillion Wattle, Yeah, for sure,

1:09:24

because you had you. You don't got beat for Gillion Bottle.

1:09:26

Because in the verses who will win you all, Gilly,

1:09:30

we wouldn't do a version are

1:09:32

twenty minute verses twenty we

1:09:35

both lose, go down,

1:09:38

both lose versus

1:09:41

I would win the versus you will win against

1:09:44

Gilly playing I'm not playing with you. I'm

1:09:48

not even doing this with you, Royce.

1:09:53

I'm gonna always say verse scarface

1:09:56

of ice que whoa? Both

1:09:59

you said, I said whoa? I said

1:10:01

whoa? What's up? I'm

1:10:04

fine? He

1:10:06

picked damn

1:10:10

just poor just in case because we're drinking.

1:10:13

You know what's funny on my on my

1:10:15

top twenty list, not even

1:10:17

twenty, my top fifteen lists, they're right behind

1:10:20

each other, who scarface

1:10:22

an ice cube, they're right behind

1:10:24

each other. We're gonna take a shot for you. No,

1:10:26

I'm gonna pick okay, but

1:10:28

it don't man it right. It don't think of right,

1:10:31

so you can't really pick. So we're just gonna have to drink, and

1:10:33

we want to drink anyway. Well, but well,

1:10:36

i'm gonna pick cube. I'm

1:10:38

gonna pick que because jacking

1:10:41

for beats is before my mind's playing tricks

1:10:43

on me, is it really? I don't know

1:10:45

the most it's very close. That's very close. And

1:10:48

Jack the for beats I think came out first. I

1:10:50

don't know. I'm gonna be honest. That was just the

1:10:52

most hip hopist answer ever. But I don't think

1:10:55

so I google it. Let's google it. I don't google.

1:10:57

It's very very for beats

1:11:00

amount before my mind is playing EP

1:11:03

right when he left wa. No, that was his

1:11:05

album. No, that was an EP, Jack Jacking

1:11:07

foot Beats on America's Most Wanted. No, it wasn't.

1:11:09

Yes it is No. That was on his EP

1:11:12

on America's Most Whit. I'm telling

1:11:14

you, yes you are

1:11:16

ice cu Vanata. But it might have been

1:11:18

on the EP too though. Yeah, nopo

1:11:20

though, all right, let's take the shot for

1:11:23

that. So what came up from my mind playing tricks to him? Me came

1:11:25

out, yeahine Ice

1:11:27

Cum you got me drink

1:11:30

just because yea yeah, yo yo yo yo. Let's shout

1:11:32

out to Joe for being hip hop or the hip hop

1:11:36

and jacking bees? What was what? He

1:11:40

was? Right? Pretty cool right there? Yeah

1:11:42

that was some hip hop as gay looking good. And

1:11:44

shout out to el j for being engaged.

1:11:47

Bro really well,

1:11:50

he clearly tried to keep it away here from you

1:11:52

guys. Don't you don't like us

1:11:54

at all? He

1:11:57

wanted me to tell me, did

1:12:00

know were making history here? Motherfucker

1:12:04

Mob Deeper Outcasts? Well,

1:12:07

I don't Cast is the greatest group all time. But I'm

1:12:10

from New York. Shot,

1:12:12

I'm from New York. So you're taking a shot. I

1:12:14

mean, but Dontcast is better than my be I'm

1:12:17

not gonna be on camera saying otherwise. But

1:12:20

Queens Mob, Deep Recipes, prodigyce

1:12:23

Prodigy. So wait, we're

1:12:25

drinking. I picked, y'all was

1:12:27

just drinking. My goal is

1:12:29

always to pick and pick

1:12:32

rather easily. I always see people come up here in your

1:12:34

store. Oh yeah,

1:12:37

did you add nobody ever? I

1:12:42

gotta take it. No, you know you

1:12:47

can, you can answer it. I

1:12:50

don't want to look like that. I want to answer the

1:12:52

fastest. Somebody was really good? Was it? George

1:12:54

Clinton? No? I

1:12:57

hate it on that episode? Yeah, yeah,

1:13:00

yeah, George and Isa Brothers too. Wait

1:13:03

wait till ISAI Brothers ISASI Brothers is really

1:13:05

good? Yeah? But got all

1:13:07

right? New Jack City or Juice, New

1:13:11

Jack City Red

1:13:14

or meth I'm from harm read on

1:13:16

math read from Jersey. All

1:13:19

right, and you have beef for meth Man at one

1:13:21

point? Nah, your

1:13:23

hat light skin be It wasn't beef, That wasn't

1:13:26

tension. Maybe that wasn't be sabber

1:13:28

pusher. Oh, I'm it

1:13:31

probably should be pushed. I'm gonna say, fab one

1:13:35

up or come back Jack? How are you looking confused? I

1:13:41

didn't want to I didn't want to one on that one.

1:13:43

Yeah, I wanted to skip that one. God well, I

1:13:46

listened fat. Anytime I've ever called a fan

1:13:49

for a feature, he showed up when I was nobody

1:13:51

in a queen's basement and

1:13:54

he had joints out. He was clue, he was

1:13:56

still fab and he came through and gave me a verse. Ain't

1:13:58

came back and changed it help

1:14:00

or comeback jack Combat

1:14:03

Jackie snow

1:14:06

Far BMF. They

1:14:09

both ain't the I'm

1:14:11

watching them both last snow

1:14:13

Fall season. Was asked the episodes

1:14:16

now, the new one, the new ones. They're trying to get

1:14:18

it back, but it's the last season now, BMF might

1:14:21

run longer. Uh, and

1:14:24

they both real stories, so let me see.

1:14:27

I like, I like the story of each better, so

1:14:30

I'll go. I'll go with BMF. I go bm

1:14:34

mpre ONYX. That

1:14:36

should have been MP or mob D. Yeah, that's

1:14:38

what That's what it should have been. Yeah, is

1:14:43

HUE before before MP?

1:14:46

Like a long way before MP for me? No,

1:14:49

Yes, there was no MP when

1:14:52

Slam came out. Hardcore

1:14:58

came out earlier, hard

1:15:00

courts can right, No ninety

1:15:03

four, man, if you ride on this, I'm gonna have. How about

1:15:05

some hard cores came out and

1:15:08

no, you might be right, that's nowhere.

1:15:11

No LAM, Yeah,

1:15:14

throw your Guns came out first for sure. Well, yeah,

1:15:16

ninety two because I remember watching

1:15:18

it on jukebox. Joe

1:15:21

is really hip hop yo, I know my sho yo

1:15:24

ya. That's good. I'm impressed.

1:15:26

I thought rich and forgot what

1:15:29

throw your Guns in there about how

1:15:33

about No Way, No

1:15:36

Way that came out in ninety three, Joe

1:15:40

was hand

1:15:44

bounce. I'm on ninety

1:15:49

damn you buddy, fucking one year ship. He'd

1:15:52

been being you go

1:15:56

to the next one. Fuck your one

1:15:58

year memory, man, because I

1:16:01

was dead when most of these people debuted. So

1:16:03

I mean spinning the records when all these things

1:16:05

they know. But hold on, hold on, let me just let me just let

1:16:07

me just say, let me just chim in on something. The

1:16:10

reason why Joe was winning, and

1:16:13

the reason why we win is we were

1:16:15

fans. We are Yeah, Like

1:16:18

I know all of this. I can tell about

1:16:20

this shit like it was yesterday. That's all of this stuff.

1:16:22

This stuff is what raised me. That's

1:16:24

beauty. Like, I don't just I'm not one of these

1:16:27

talking heads. Like I'm not one

1:16:29

of these little corny niggas that they found

1:16:31

to come. I'm not dumb like I was.

1:16:33

I was in this. I

1:16:36

like it. Let's go next year. They try a

1:16:38

whitewash hip hop and a lot of these

1:16:40

niggas play a part. I'm not in

1:16:43

that. No, we are not in the Yeah, Let's go

1:16:45

yeah man. Charlotta Magne or Academics

1:16:50

Podcasts radio podcasts, Loyalty

1:16:54

of respects Yo, if I was old, spicy

1:16:57

Joe, I would give yo

1:17:03

growth maturity if

1:17:07

I was I hear

1:17:09

the questions. No times. I can hear the voice

1:17:11

in my head. Listen get that. Listen

1:17:13

by the way, by the way, and listen,

1:17:16

listen, listen by the way. As if Ben is asking

1:17:18

you to the questions, I can see the vain, I

1:17:20

can hear, I can hear it. He

1:17:23

answer to avoid I'm

1:17:28

taking get out of the shot. Just go

1:17:30

taking the shot of the get out of there. Yes,

1:17:33

Joe, you have grown, you have grown, So

1:17:35

answer the last the last question. Loyalty of respects

1:17:42

respect thinking

1:17:44

the fucking about? Can some disrespectful niggas loyal

1:17:47

get away from me? But

1:17:49

yeah, I don't take the respect. I

1:17:52

respect that. But you

1:17:54

got this one. Hey, that's

1:17:56

got a boot in the microphone.

1:17:59

Yeah, microphone professional,

1:18:01

all right. Because the fans say, the

1:18:04

fans say, we never include

1:18:07

the women, and the women that we

1:18:09

do include, they get mad, I'm

1:18:11

gonna put two new ones. How are you gonna blow

1:18:14

us something like that. This is

1:18:16

for Joe, you

1:18:19

know, I'm trying to remember this. Thank

1:18:24

you, Laurie

1:18:27

Harvey or Larissa

1:18:30

Pippin larga Pippan sniper.

1:18:35

You had to you

1:18:37

had to. Oh that's

1:18:39

what you had which one pick?

1:18:43

Oh, I'm not picking Lara anything.

1:18:46

You picked Lorissa already. No, I didn't, he said Lorissa.

1:18:48

I said large. You

1:18:51

say who's the better sniper. No, it's

1:18:54

no asking me to pick two

1:18:56

names. I'm picked

1:18:59

a young sister, Okay, Lloyd

1:19:01

Harvey, I'm not gonna lie. That's

1:19:03

it. You're not gonna lie, don't. I

1:19:05

don't look at her like the rest of these hip hop niggas

1:19:07

look at her. I don't need she's young, yo. You

1:19:10

know that. I can't look at nobody's daughter

1:19:12

that I grew up with like that. I know it's weird,

1:19:14

and I know she's beautiful, but like

1:19:17

Corley Ray, I know your dad, Yeah, I

1:19:20

know, I know you. I know your dad, yes,

1:19:22

and I don't may not know him, but me and him

1:19:25

got the same watching. Yeah it's your dad, Yo.

1:19:27

I can't. Well, that's cool because you

1:19:29

know she's weird. It's crazy.

1:19:32

I'm sorry, it's

1:19:34

just that you know holding that you know this

1:19:36

week? Yeah,

1:19:40

this is a foul Michael, and

1:19:42

you know what to be politically correct on

1:19:44

you guys, this big platform. I

1:19:47

picked both women during Women's History Month.

1:19:49

That's right, okay, shot Queen

1:19:54

Latifa mclight from

1:19:56

Jersey, Queen Latifa from

1:19:58

Jersey. But let me just let me just say

1:20:00

for women's history. But yeah,

1:20:03

both for women's history. But

1:20:05

I am from New Jersey, yes, and Jersey

1:20:07

is ready. I left. I left school,

1:20:10

well, I was dropped out, but when I wasn't,

1:20:12

I left school to go over that Flavor Union office.

1:20:14

A lot many of days, damn many

1:20:18

yo talking about that. How dope was

1:20:20

it to see everybody on stage? Oh the day.

1:20:25

Let me tell you something. Let me just say, but the streaming is

1:20:27

out, but to see Queen Latifa and the whole whole

1:20:30

let me tell you something. For years

1:20:33

in hip hop, I've always

1:20:36

wanted to be invited to certain things.

1:20:38

Then I made it to a level where I didn't

1:20:40

want to be invited. I just didn't want to say. This

1:20:43

was one event that I call,

1:20:48

I called Buston. I was like fuck you, and

1:20:51

Buston was like what And

1:20:53

I was just like, yo, bro, I hate

1:20:55

that you was there. That was historic moment,

1:20:57

Like that's one of the things that Queen Latifa

1:21:00

years, Queen Money Love, Queyne,

1:21:05

Dave Chappelle, the Jungle bro King,

1:21:08

the Jungle Brothers are dressed

1:21:11

ye yo, oh my god, all

1:21:14

the dj D Knights, everybody that was told

1:21:16

y'all cried earlier, and I've been crying. Lady.

1:21:18

I'm forty five years old. I'm a virgo. This

1:21:21

is to love. My time for me to share some more

1:21:24

nor hate that I have that I've

1:21:26

been, that I've been harboring, and

1:21:29

I could never get rid of it because it I

1:21:33

will. It will always be a fact good.

1:21:37

I hate that

1:21:39

this nigga was out in the nineties and I

1:21:41

was not. I hated

1:21:45

it was just like he did

1:21:48

people. He was with sessions, he was a part

1:21:50

of just in the nineties. I feel like that

1:21:53

game in the wrong fucking age

1:21:55

of ship. And let me also pick you up for

1:21:58

for putting Queen's Flip on. Queen's

1:22:01

Flip is probably one

1:22:03

of the most entertaining people on the Internet. A lot

1:22:05

of people don't understand his humor or

1:22:07

understand it, but

1:22:09

I do. And you know, I

1:22:11

want to also bick up Nicki Minaj real quick

1:22:15

because they him Queens

1:22:17

Flip, you and me all

1:22:19

from era where they keep continuing

1:22:22

to say, the Webin Nitty era, and

1:22:25

I'm proud. I'm actually

1:22:27

proud to be a part of that. So Nikki,

1:22:30

Queens, Flip, Joe, Nori,

1:22:34

we all affiliated with webin Nitty

1:22:36

and you know wherever they at. I see

1:22:38

Nicki Minajs post the picture. I don't know if it's an old

1:22:40

picture or it's a new picture.

1:22:42

And I've seen Queen's flip reposted,

1:22:45

so I don't know if it. Like I said, I don't know if it's an old picture a new

1:22:47

picture. But you know, Webin

1:22:50

Nitty was legends in Queens

1:22:54

and said was

1:22:56

legends, and I didn't have said that they

1:22:58

are legends and Queen's legends

1:23:01

all over the world from Atlanta or

1:23:03

ever. If you know Reb Ninty, you know

1:23:06

that they're good people and I would like to pick them

1:23:08

up. Yeah, I would like. Yeah,

1:23:13

but that's something that you've been able to accomplish

1:23:15

that. I haven't you been able to get Nikki,

1:23:20

Lloyd and

1:23:22

Cardi right Queen's Yeah, yeah,

1:23:25

yeah, I hate on YouTube. I did let

1:23:27

me tell you about I don't. I don't. I

1:23:30

don't know that I'll get her again, but who

1:23:32

Cardie, I don't know if I'll get her again, but I'm

1:23:35

not gonna lie to females. Females

1:23:37

are, they're tough. I'm

1:23:39

not gonna lie. I love them. I

1:23:42

love Nikki's man, damn

1:23:46

their own probably like grew up

1:23:48

with him, like you know, um, he's

1:23:51

He's a good dude. I fox to him heavy.

1:23:54

But I don't want to lean on that relationship to

1:23:56

get Nikki. I don't think I should.

1:23:59

I think that I'm more prideful that

1:24:01

I loved them, Like I went hung out with

1:24:03

them. It was so dope, and me

1:24:05

and Cardi recently spoke. But

1:24:08

it's like it's like the females are

1:24:10

a little bit like I could speak

1:24:12

to jay Z like this, I can

1:24:15

speak to Nas like this, I can speak the puff like

1:24:17

this. I can't speak to Cardi

1:24:19

like that. I can't speak to Nikki like and and

1:24:21

know that sucks for you and I and

1:24:24

us, right, it is

1:24:26

also great and part of the beautiful

1:24:28

thing about where broadcasting is

1:24:30

today that let the girls go sit

1:24:32

with whoever they're comfortable with. If

1:24:35

Cardi want to sit with Jason Lee, if

1:24:38

that's gonna get us the best interview and the best

1:24:40

answers, It's still a podcast. Fan. Yes,

1:24:42

been awesome, Big up, Jason. I

1:24:46

know y'all don't around right, I don't know people.

1:24:48

I'm either okay yo. Today

1:24:50

I want to use your big platform.

1:24:52

Let's think it got me for nobody. I

1:24:56

want to right right here, yes, please,

1:24:59

right righty here on

1:25:02

your massive platform. I

1:25:04

want everybody out there to know. I have

1:25:07

a beef with no

1:25:09

one, even if we've previously beef,

1:25:12

Like Jason Lee and I have had words in the

1:25:14

past. Charlote man and I have had

1:25:16

words in the past. There's some people's names that y'all

1:25:18

brought up. I've had words within the bad. Don't have beef with

1:25:21

a soul today, and I'm

1:25:24

against multi millionaires beef in today.

1:25:27

I am like, there's

1:25:29

more to do, there's more to do.

1:25:32

I wasn't like that when I was outside of the club,

1:25:34

But now now that I'm here, I got better ship

1:25:36

to do than beat with you niggas

1:25:38

over nothing. So yeah, there's no beef

1:25:40

for nobody else. Salute. Let's all.

1:25:43

Let's let's all of us out there

1:25:46

learn how to coexist. The people that's gonna

1:25:48

be here for a while, Like, say what you want about Vlad,

1:25:50

He's been here for a while, and he's gonna be here for a while.

1:25:53

You niggas need to learn how to coexist with people

1:25:56

and take advantage of this small window

1:25:58

we have to create general racial wealth. It's

1:26:00

never been here before. We don't know how long it to be

1:26:03

open. Yeah, we don't know how long it to be

1:26:05

here. So I will do it. Yeah, we'll

1:26:07

take it. You're talking now, you're talking. Yeah,

1:26:09

y'all probably got about three more years of this before

1:26:11

AI ends all of you out there. Yes, yeah,

1:26:14

and shout out to I don't know if it's I'm

1:26:16

assuming it's a different series. You're doing the interviews,

1:26:20

dope, very different to the

1:26:22

show I'm doing called Humans, where I sit down

1:26:24

and talk to some people with interesting stories, like

1:26:27

like like you interview and the maintenance man or some

1:26:29

shit. I

1:26:31

would like to if the maintenance man has an interesting story, I

1:26:33

want to talk to him. I want to talk to people outside

1:26:36

of out of music, Like

1:26:39

just like you were scrying on that drink with the

1:26:41

whole nine and eleven story. Yeah, yeah, that

1:26:43

took a lot of That was a lot. That takes

1:26:45

a lot on your soul. It's taxing, right.

1:26:49

Spoke to a gentleman name pasqual.

1:26:52

I don't want to say his last name incorrectly, but

1:26:55

he uh they

1:26:57

call him the nine eleven Surfer

1:27:00

survived falling

1:27:02

twenty two stories when the North

1:27:04

Tower collapsed. That's

1:27:07

crazy. Tough. That shit is tough to do to go talk

1:27:10

to him, Talk to his wife. Crazy, hold on,

1:27:12

cry all day? What's crazy? You're backing

1:27:14

your phone during m This is a crazy

1:27:18

wife. Just sent me. Pressure

1:27:24

on yourself, buddy, se me

1:27:26

this two days ago. Hold

1:27:28

on, let me find it. I wouldn't help my show, would look

1:27:30

I recorded in my MDA. All right, y'all

1:27:33

got a different energy out of there. Hold

1:27:35

on, I got over head, all right, So look this

1:27:37

just check, says seven World Trades.

1:27:39

Show me something. Okay, he made a

1:27:41

connect. He made a connect, seven World accounting.

1:27:44

It's nigga money. No that it's

1:27:46

only seven dollars but

1:27:49

my account. So they couldn't find me. So

1:27:53

my last known address was seven World

1:27:56

Trains because the account was there,

1:27:58

because my account. Did they lose all your papers?

1:28:00

Something? Seven dollars, sir? Just that I

1:28:02

still want my seven one piece of paper? Yeah, I want my seven

1:28:06

seven dollars thirty five cent. Wait,

1:28:10

but that can't be your account. There's only one receipt.

1:28:13

No, no, that's what I'm saying. They didn't they

1:28:15

couldn't find me, so they finally found me and

1:28:18

they did it. But the original address

1:28:20

was seven World Trade Center. And I remember

1:28:23

I remember us filming

1:28:25

grimy video on nine ten

1:28:29

and I didn't you know, I didn't rap

1:28:32

City appearance was one

1:28:35

and you picked me up. Yeah, I did that. You picked

1:28:37

me up. You didn't tell me he was getting married, but you picked

1:28:39

me up on BT. I

1:28:43

don't know what courtly, but I just

1:28:45

looking at your ring because you know you're only

1:28:47

nikt Us wearing the ring. Engaged

1:28:50

way more import right now. You're engaged because

1:28:53

men don't wear rings until they marriage.

1:28:56

You're wearing it now. Cool, you are

1:28:58

engaged. Thank yo,

1:29:07

Joe Man, I'm not I'm not gonna lie, Joe.

1:29:10

I'm really proud of you, Bron and

1:29:12

I feel that from you. I believe it, you know

1:29:14

why, because you're a great person, you really

1:29:17

are. And the

1:29:19

thing about us, it's people

1:29:21

who's been seasoned. They want us to

1:29:23

go. They don't want us wear pink

1:29:26

shirts like you wearing right now. They

1:29:28

don't want us wearing Cardias

1:29:31

shades. They don't want us wearing

1:29:33

protects. They

1:29:36

don't want this. They want us to go

1:29:38

and leave. But

1:29:41

I know, God,

1:29:50

they gotta get used it. We're not going nowhere. Yes,

1:29:52

we ain't gonna I'm not going nowhere.

1:29:55

But because you know, I speak

1:29:57

about this about you when you're not around,

1:30:00

and I want to say it to your face. What

1:30:04

you did is remarkable. Stayed

1:30:07

in your lane, you

1:30:09

did exactly what you're supposed

1:30:11

to do, and you

1:30:14

said fuck everybody. That's

1:30:16

my favorite part of it. That's

1:30:18

my favorite part, and that that

1:30:22

is remarkable, that

1:30:24

is impeccable. It's

1:30:28

everything that I want to say,

1:30:30

man, because I

1:30:33

know how how I know how they want to kick us

1:30:35

out when we got

1:30:37

our time, after you get your time, they'd be like the

1:30:39

fuck up. No, they hate it.

1:30:41

I'm still and I can take a sense it when I wake

1:30:43

up in the boar. They hate that

1:30:46

I'm still here and you're still here. You're

1:30:48

still doing it. And like

1:30:51

I said to me self advertised, I'm not

1:30:53

gonna do it. But like I, like I said earlier,

1:30:57

you didn't change you. You you got

1:30:59

to where you got being you, and

1:31:02

I can't change this nigga for shit. No,

1:31:10

Beijean nothing. Yes,

1:31:16

try to hit him a watch, he said, nope, try

1:31:18

to get my change. He said. No. I like that though,

1:31:21

because for what this nigga checks is

1:31:23

serious. We all who we are. We are who

1:31:25

we are before we get here, absolutely sticking

1:31:29

the clotson you. Yeah, we don't need that.

1:31:31

Ship. Ain't trying to change you. You

1:31:33

know what. It's not easy, but

1:31:40

Joe, But Joe, Joe, I really,

1:31:42

I really want to give your flowers to your face

1:31:44

for real. Think what

1:31:47

you do is not easy. It's

1:31:49

remarkable. I love how you changing

1:31:52

it up. I love even you

1:31:54

know, putting Melissa Ford and Queen's

1:31:56

flip in there and then having your

1:31:59

other boys and not and not disting

1:32:02

the past. It's remarkable

1:32:04

what you're doing. Um, I

1:32:07

don't want to pick it up. It's big it up. I

1:32:09

want to So

1:32:12

who is the new people that never

1:32:14

watched the Joe Button Show? What is

1:32:16

the new people that's on the Joe Button

1:32:19

Show? Uh? It's still me

1:32:21

myself, Parks or

1:32:24

long standing parks. Uh. Then

1:32:26

we have Ice, a longtime

1:32:29

friend of mine. Its longtime friend of mine, Flip

1:32:32

who you mentioned earlier, and Melissa

1:32:34

Ford who it's Melissa Ford

1:32:37

so fun times,

1:32:39

good crew, good squad. What

1:32:42

made you add because that's something that me and Efin

1:32:44

kind of think, Um, who made

1:32:46

you add? A female? I've always wanted female. You

1:32:48

always wanted to have always wanted female. We

1:32:51

love Supercidity, super City, Great boy,

1:32:53

I had a podcast, you wanted.

1:32:56

I wanted a female when I started. I started

1:32:58

with a female. Shout out to me some in this. Okay,

1:33:01

Kate Fox too. I love Kate Fox. Wherever you got.

1:33:03

Kate Fox when she when she left before

1:33:07

my old crew got said I was looking for a female.

1:33:10

I was. I've always been looking for a female. So,

1:33:13

yeah, you just can't have a room full of See how we got

1:33:15

this room right here? Yeah, that's why Jamie is holding

1:33:18

it down. Look at all these fucking penises. Yeah,

1:33:21

like she said, I don't look in the room and but

1:33:24

yeah, like I don't. I don't believe yea,

1:33:26

how you can see that this should just be ten

1:33:28

penises and yeah, woman around them? Wenna,

1:33:31

say what married men do? We're gonna say, some dickheads,

1:33:34

We're gonna say something we shouldn't say field something shouldn't

1:33:36

they't need a girl saying as because me and married

1:33:39

individuals the girls say, hey, you're sure you want

1:33:41

to roll with that one, but you know what it

1:33:43

is because misment crazy roll radio. I mean,

1:33:46

that wasn't really that much different, but we tried. We tried

1:33:48

O y'all I was cocking back then, were like, yeah, like

1:33:51

trap. It was like trap, Charles

1:33:53

is here. I can't lie from Les Charles.

1:33:56

You know he's cocking everything. They

1:34:03

all went too far. So

1:34:07

Joe Man, thank you so much. Thank you.

1:34:12

I really understand who you are. I

1:34:14

know who your purpose is,

1:34:17

and um, I respect

1:34:19

it. I saluted, Um,

1:34:23

I commended because there's

1:34:27

literally no one else in your space.

1:34:30

You literally created a space for you and

1:34:34

it's open so everyone else can come.

1:34:37

And you know after that, but this

1:34:39

space that you created is really

1:34:41

really really monumental, and

1:34:44

um you I really

1:34:46

I really enjoy it, you know what I mean. I

1:34:49

remember people trying to put us against each

1:34:51

other so much, and this is when

1:34:53

you had Warrior and Mall. But they didn't understand

1:34:55

our history. They didn't understand um

1:34:59

because it was kind of like from Queens, Queens

1:35:02

and Jersey. Yeah I read

1:35:04

Paul them too and hollow cut. Damn. Let's go. Let's

1:35:07

take some noise all him. Yeah.

1:35:10

Yeah, So I'm gonna take this shot and I'm gonna

1:35:12

say, Joe Man, I want you to understand

1:35:15

that you are please,

1:35:17

I'm sorry, you are appreciated,

1:35:22

thank you, you are recognized.

1:35:26

You did something that was so

1:35:28

crazy in this podcast game.

1:35:31

It's legendary, and you continue to do

1:35:33

it. And I went and I seeing

1:35:36

your set up and I was just

1:35:38

like, oh, I came

1:35:40

back inspired. No, no, I

1:35:42

really did. I really did. At we

1:35:44

chalkboards, I'm

1:35:48

like, we do what we do, alread this.

1:35:50

This is how foul our friends is. We

1:35:52

still don't gotta fucking chokboard. But I

1:35:54

tried to bite your sh immediately. But listen, guess

1:35:56

what you get more mad when you get the chalkboards

1:35:58

and then niggas don't read them at all. The

1:36:01

man ship on the board. So anyway,

1:36:04

but Joe Man, Nah, I'm being honest and listen

1:36:07

the same to you. Continue continued,

1:36:10

No, no, no, no, it's your day. Continue to renovate

1:36:12

the space, innovate the space,

1:36:15

continue to inspire. Yes, and

1:36:17

we're having fun. We're playing screed. But let

1:36:20

me let me let me recognize your protect, your

1:36:22

protect. That is a nice protect,

1:36:25

thank you. It's a little man. God

1:36:28

is good. When I speak about me, I'm

1:36:30

only speaking about the work that can be done

1:36:32

through the grace of the Lord. So that's

1:36:35

all it is. It's like one hundred and forty thousand right there right

1:36:38

play putting that money on this on his wrist. Right now, you get

1:36:41

a lot of word. And

1:36:48

by the way, we

1:36:51

wanted to make sure Joe is good. Anything

1:36:55

we got you, Joe, No for real, no

1:36:57

for real, because

1:37:02

I'm an artist, artist meaning

1:37:07

we like to take care of artists. That's an

1:37:09

artist. I'm

1:37:11

thinking about it. When Patty the Bell came here, we

1:37:14

had my boy go go, We'll go go out and

1:37:16

my boy another one we have bad

1:37:19

my boy go go pull up in the Rose voice.

1:37:22

And that's what we want to continue to do. It

1:37:25

is because we're not just saying this on

1:37:27

camera, we're doing it off camera as

1:37:29

well. And you're one

1:37:31

of them legends that we wanted to take care of. Thank

1:37:34

you, and we will. I'm

1:37:36

sure you would treat Keith Murray the same way, O

1:37:38

Keith marry Yeah, to keep Mary come outside,

1:37:44

I just lay no no no, I'm not

1:37:50

no, no, no, no, no, You're gonna let keep Mery on your show.

1:37:52

No, well, you guys have beef zone. No,

1:37:55

it's just he not mentally see.

1:37:58

I don't put them like in front of anybody. I

1:38:00

mean you could put the money. You don't mean

1:38:04

that means I would have to be around it. I don't want to be around it. I

1:38:06

want want of y'all to do it so I could

1:38:08

hear it. I would like to keep Murray on

1:38:10

Real Talk. I hope you do, but

1:38:13

not on some fucked up shit like

1:38:16

not no train wreck show. We've never done. Keep

1:38:18

Murray will be fine. Yes, the

1:38:20

dreams gonna be here, I'm

1:38:23

asking, Yeah, so let

1:38:25

me know when it comes out. You

1:38:28

have to keep Murray. Don't make it seem

1:38:30

like it ain't's not. It's nothing. But you

1:38:32

wouldn't have him on your show? On my show, no,

1:38:35

because I don't want to be associated

1:38:37

with the things he may have to say, Like I

1:38:39

saw that last run. I saw the last

1:38:41

run he did. If you you can't come on my show

1:38:43

and say those things about people

1:38:46

that I know people solely

1:38:48

it's because of what he's saying. He

1:38:50

can't come on the show or what I've what

1:38:52

I've seen, Okay, Like I don't care about

1:38:55

people hit me about history interview. Well history,

1:38:57

that's different. But when people hit me about like unvery

1:39:00

stations and interviews, I normally go to the

1:39:02

ones that they've already had, right good

1:39:05

and like erb Gardy ier

1:39:07

Gardy came on the show, I didn't necessarily

1:39:09

agree with nothing here you have Actually you have a line

1:39:12

of so you do that a lot. You

1:39:14

do that a lot. That might be your thing. I

1:39:16

can't. I can't do it. Earb Gardy can't. That's

1:39:18

my didn't agree and that's my man. Don't make that ourd

1:39:21

thing at all. But you damn whatever you know, but

1:39:23

you connected them that and

1:39:25

you're sitting here to this, y'all think that's what I'm saying.

1:39:28

No, that's why. That's why he said you. But I'm

1:39:30

here. Yeah, our thing like Earth. Earth

1:39:35

couldn't have came on my couch to

1:39:37

say what he had that message.

1:39:39

I would have asked. I would have

1:39:41

asked it. I would have chopped it. You

1:39:44

would have chopped at me, took it out,

1:39:46

should have took that out. I'm sorry everybody running

1:39:49

the one way to run in I was. I'm not saying you should have like

1:39:51

some of them, some of the biggest moments from podcast

1:39:54

be moments that niggas maybe should have, but

1:39:56

those be the heat. That'd be the heat. Hey,

1:39:59

you came here. I got you comfortable enough to say

1:40:01

some shit that you wouldn't normally say. That's a talent

1:40:03

on my part. So don't call me afterward

1:40:05

with hey, chopping, chopping, chopping. No, nigga learn

1:40:08

how to do any of you. No. Earth Guardy has not spoken to me

1:40:10

since. I don't blame him. I

1:40:13

don't blame him one bit.

1:40:17

I've been calling him too, like I want

1:40:19

to pour. I should call him from here. Just you

1:40:22

know, even that moment that you did, who was that with somebody

1:40:24

calling future gonna call? Yeah? You are

1:40:27

a legend, yo, Yeah

1:40:29

I say that day. Wait when you add

1:40:31

my fucking arm? Was my man? Is that Jack

1:40:34

with the eye and you had him call a

1:40:36

future? I got a future to chains

1:40:38

to change. Jack Thriller, Hey,

1:40:41

Jack Thriller, Yo, you are You've been

1:40:43

at this for a long time, yo,

1:40:46

So chat out with you. No,

1:40:49

no, no, no throwing me a little buzzer,

1:40:51

No no, no, I'm just saying shit

1:40:55

yeah no oh yeah no, but we

1:40:57

asked, We asked, now what

1:40:59

she told him out the herb interview, and she said, I

1:41:02

won't go dear Good.

1:41:08

They have the comedian right want

1:41:11

she said, you want to fuck you? You want to move at that up. She said

1:41:13

that to Jason Learn.

1:41:16

She said, I used to want to fuck him. But he's

1:41:18

mean. But he's you. But he's

1:41:21

mean. He's mean. Joe, Joe, you

1:41:23

do come off as means. A lot of people think you

1:41:25

mean. If you are you mean. No, I'm

1:41:27

not mean, but I do want people to continue to think that. Right,

1:41:30

I don't want to talk to everybody, right, and

1:41:33

you you're walking around with no security

1:41:35

all I mean, you don't got to put that out there for the world to know.

1:41:39

No, listen all yo,

1:41:43

if you get set up, no, I'm

1:41:46

probably jump I'm protected

1:41:49

by higher power. Oh that's what I'm

1:41:51

protected by, and

1:41:53

it works for me. It works for me, Yo, Joe,

1:41:56

one more time, let me tell you, face to face,

1:41:58

man to man, we love you, We

1:42:00

respect you, thank you, we anna Um,

1:42:03

respect your morals, We respect your integrity, respect

1:42:06

you staying in zone. We respect you. Reping Jersey,

1:42:09

respect you, Rebend Queens, respect you, even

1:42:11

Harlem, all of them. We

1:42:14

respect all that. And we

1:42:16

want to get your flowers. Taking

1:42:18

my flowers home, taking

1:42:20

them home. Yure

1:42:24

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