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He's Alekny Queen's rappers.

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know, I'm excited. I'm excited one because we don't

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get a lot of females to come here

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and chill and you know, play the game and smoke

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and dreams. The

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funnest episodes here when when the females come

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She was onisode before.

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But I just want to describe a man, uh

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relentless hustler of a hustler.

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You know, Queen, you

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know a wife, a sister, I

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knew, a mother. Don't forget my mother. Holy

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oh lord, I always,

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I always we wonder when duty do her

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husband battle, when they when they argue, we're

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going down. But

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she is in this game and

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getting better and better and better. Just

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open up a rap league. Heard it's like number

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one throughout so many numbers for

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females. We're gonna get into all that. Uh

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dominated the reality

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field world made everyone say, you know what,

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you can do this and not look stupid and

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you look strong black

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love. In case you don't

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know who the bunk I'm talking about, we're talking about the one, the

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only raby motherfucker I've

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been up for because we're supposed to have

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you last week. So I start fact Joe

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to give me the questions,

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and then I stalk Pat Poos to give me questions.

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So they basically ghost wrote my interview right

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pretty much. So,

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but I got I got my own ship. I got my own ship.

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But here and there, when you see me looking at that note, I'm

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gonna see if you can figure out which question came from.

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All right, but but let's le's keep let's keep it real. Um,

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let's get right into this rap league that what is it

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a female rap? It's a female battle

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rap. League. Bain't

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like they did. They're saying hi to each other. It's

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crazy. It's a battle rap league. Um,

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some of the nicest ever

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like pun pun voice

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uh Um. I started

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out a battle rap That's what I used to do before

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I even I never even

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dreamed that I'd be a rapper. Let's just be a book. I can't even

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say before I dreamed it being a rapper. I never thought I would

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be a rapper. I never seen it as a career path. It's

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just something that I would do. Um.

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I hung out with a lot of guys growing up. They should

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literally take me to different peoplehoods to battle

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niggers and take their money because I was a

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girl that right,

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Yeah, so it was. It was it was free money

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like it was joining money, little

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face money, every color

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j and sport money like I was I was still

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in school. Um, It's

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just something that I did. One of one of

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the only times that I've ever battled a female.

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It went Vira before going Vira

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was a thing, Okay,

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so that that was before you know, viral

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was the thing, like it was everywhere, everybody heard

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about it, whatever, whatever, And

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when I went away. When I was going

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it was like this whole movement of

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female battle rappers like became a thing like

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battle rap started, you know, planting this people.

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But there was a league with just women. So when

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I came home and I've seen it, shoutouts

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to Queened the Ring, shout out to Debo, Babs

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and vague Um. I was watching, I was

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like, Yo, this is dope. Like it was. It looked

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like a bunch of means, young

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means. And I always was like,

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I want to do something like this because I would watch it

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and I'd be like, because I know the industry a little

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bit more, I knew there were things that I could do

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that to make it dope. Like people, I felt people needed

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to see this because I'll be telling people about it. They they

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really didn't know even now when

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I'm doing interviews about it, or when

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I'm talking about it, or people who tuned in

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the other nights to my first ever batted I

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was live streamed or hot um,

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they was like, yeah, I've never seen nothing like this before

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my life. Was there that many female

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battle mcs when you were coming up, I'm

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gonna assume there was. They just didn't have a

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platform to battle. Now.

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I was the only chick that was nice.

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I never read it to no girl. The only

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bad girl that I ever battle in my life

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was luck. I never ran into the girls

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ever. So UM, it was just crazy

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to see so many of them and just the different

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styles. And it was from everywhere. Like the girls on my card,

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particularly like we have moll

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League get my card that I just had my It's

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like kind of like boxing, like you have a card, like it

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was on the card who that the matches

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that I had. They was from everywhere. San Francisco,

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UM, San Antonio, Texas, New

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Orleans, Rhode Island, UM,

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Bridgeport, Connecticut, Boston, UM,

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it was in New York and New York on on

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Damnian Tom Square. So it was

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it was which made it even crazier because

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they haven't had a battle Rap event in New York

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in like four or five years because they just used to get

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too crazy. UM Smack

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and Beasley from RL they came out, they

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was in the building. It was just a really

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dope event. Like the numbers was amazing,

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trending number one in the country, number

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three worldwide, like they're blowing it up and number

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three, so like that

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that it was all females,

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and I think one of

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My main reasons of doing it is because

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I was always into it, but when I started

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like getting to know some of the girls are seeing behind

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the scenes, Like the pay gap between

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what the male battle rappers was getting

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it with they was getting was just crazy

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like female it's like the workplace,

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but it was real. It was just respectful, like

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they getting fifties sixty thousand

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and the girls getting like

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and to me, the girls are way more entertaining

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and very

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much more, very much

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more disrespectful, but they're way more entertaining.

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They don't choke as much like they become more prepared.

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I just feel like they needed to be packaged the right

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way. So when I've been wanted

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the past two months, I

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styled the hair makeup cloth

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you get these artists to do? Now, are they signed

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to you? Or they can go They can still go to you? Are

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they can they can go there? Like I'm not, I've

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been locked up before ahead

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body into no contract. I feel like when you're good to

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people and when you treat them good, and when your

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business is right, people don't want to work with you. But

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let me ask you a question. What happens if you're walking through

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checkfil that you're going to the restaurant. You

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have Chick fil a female

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come to you. She's very respectful with me. I know

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you're eating, you know, but can I spit

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some bars to you? She spit some bars to you.

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You literally take up from Chick fil A to

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fucking mtv BT's

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office. She blows up everything.

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You're not gonna feel a little bit. No,

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I'm not, because she is. She a real bit

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like me. She'll be like, you know what, rhyme here,

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this is you because if it wasn't for you, this is that. If

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she's not, then cool. It's happened

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before. It's people that I put in position.

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And it's

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not that, it's not that, but I don't

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care. I don't do things to get

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something back. If I do something just because I did

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it, it's just because I could. A

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lot of times people could put people in position,

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and they don't because of that very reason. They feel

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like, yeah, if I put them on, I'll put them in position. They

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ain't gonna handle me the right way they and and

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that's cool. That's not gonna stop

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my blessings. I'm still get the

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blessings that I was supposed to get outside of you. So

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I've never ever stopped anybody

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from doing the thing. I'm I'm always going to be a person

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that be like, yoll what you're doing. I know somebody

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that could probably help you. Here, take this number, Tell them I sent

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you. Tellthing like that. It's caught you nothing

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to connect people with the right person. Now, if

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you are asshole and you wanna handle,

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have you one and think because people

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forget that. They forget once when they bleeding

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out and you patch, they wound up, they love you then,

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but when it heals and the scars going, they forget

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about it. Sometimes they forget how they was

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bleeding out. And that's cool, That's

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okay. I don't I'm all right with that. It's

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why I met pun in nine nine.

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I was still in high school. We two

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and I'm would so I

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can't. I can't really be mad

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and I'm bossing around. Let's

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right, and is there a scenario where

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it's it's only females battling, right because

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it's a female I

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want to see. Yes,

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they do have interigender battles.

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I do plan on doing that, um,

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but I just wanted to be established

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that this is a female battle rap league. So

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if you're a woman, you know,

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pain gold or whatever, and this is what you

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You can come here a lot of times with some

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of the other leagues, like the them, they all dominated.

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That's it's like the NBA, Like I

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mean, maybe one day if a chicken is super duper

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dumb, nice thing might be like you know what, she could come over here

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like like your hands. I don't know, but

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um it's it's a place

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for women. But that that's not doesn't

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mean I feel the main reason why I want to bring

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gods in because I feel like women

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are never released a liidified until the

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yeah yeah, because

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they say, like a shorty nice I am for a

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girl. So they

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started seeing me VOLI and they're

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like, you know what like

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and I feel like, I don't. I don't ever want that to happen

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because people saying those chicks was nice.

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They was like, yeah, watch when y'all see what

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they do when I when I put them up against

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some of the top top dudes that's in there. So unfortunately

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for women, we never really get our full just

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do until we'll take take

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somebody down. It has to happen. I'm sorry

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that you'll like this. You

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got you some wine, you got you some wine want

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you to you know, because I'm not. I don't. I

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can't do this again the regulation because

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this is black owned, we want you to know to

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the black companies. However,

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I don't care if it was purple.

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This interview will be over, and I

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promise you it's not my thing. So I don't want

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to do that. So I don't wanna be bouncing around

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all over the place for this interview. But one

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thing I noticed immediately right because I went

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through your discography, we heard, um,

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I'm listening to everything, and there's

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two things. One I'm gonna get to this part.

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Make sure I'll get to the jay Z part. Make your mommy.

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I'm gonna look at you, so your momm me right. Um.

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But today uh huh, we

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were uh one of the guys

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was playing like you know how you play a record

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and then um, it

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plays a record that relates to that record,

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so and Ether came on and

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I was like, but I didn't realize because

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after either comes on, he comes

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on. So it was it is

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that something that you knew that that

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was happening when you picked the Ether? Bet Yeah,

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okay,

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Um, it's just it's like,

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right now, somebody does signs somebody

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cursing somebody else, they put them, they make a meme

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out of immediately to the instrumental.

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Right, yeah, it's just

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that's what it is. Funny. It is how I

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walked in the club with me and I just told

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you earlier, and it was the first record they

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played, and we just both looked at each other. We looked at the DJ

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like come on, we just didn't want to. We didn't want

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to, like we didn't want people to be, you know, people

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down days and then because the

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worst thing that was because

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both us just look at each other like this is not appropriate,

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like and we

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didn't want anybody in the world to be like

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this look at Nori and nas.

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Yeah, so we were like we

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like that like you would.

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You would have seem like he was like school field and

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he was like and it was like we communicated like

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like don't bop nigga, like this is like

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it was funny he was club was a club. Okay,

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So all right, that's one thing. So

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you didn't know, like right now, I'll get back to the

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different part of that question earlier. Here's another thing

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that I noticed I can tell

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through your bars A big jay

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Z Shan really I can tell

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like I can tell, like, I mean, this is me as

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a journalist now, that's not me as an artist. As

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a journalist, I can tell. So what was

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it like during that time when

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Joe and Jay really wasn't getting

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along? And I can tell he's one of you. When I asked

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you your top five, like I'm not, I could guarantee you James in

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there. So how was that going? Was horrible?

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I feel sorry I didn't

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do with me to happen,

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but I think I

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also remember I was really young when when I started

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head with them, so it

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was it was weird because this

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is somebody that I admired and I like, and

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I'm like, im pundit what and what

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happened? Like I just was so confused,

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like but why he's such a nice guy.

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So when they like when they

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got to the place where that now it was like the best

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time of my life. It took

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on understate. But

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I was so happy now just to tell all

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the things about I could

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take that

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it's very

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very holy ship I

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could imagine to get on the record and

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everything I could imagine. Man, I'll

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tell you what, man, that was. That's one

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of the best things I ever did. When fact Joe called

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me and said, Yo, you gotta get me in contact

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with whole and I was scared and I

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was just like, what

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do you want to say? Because thinking

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about it, think about it if you listen to

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it. He shots out, showing back I was before me, which

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I'm always mad about that, right, I'm always like, back,

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guys, didn't get you on the phone, y'all. I've

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been working for this man for twelve years and nothing

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happened. You wasn't in the same movie. I'm sorry back because

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it seem like I'm coming back, guys, and I'm not. I'm coming out

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to situation, you know, coming to that job. Maybe

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maybe

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so he said, he said

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you please. I said you sure? This is this is real. He's

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like, yeo, this is real's molling too long? And

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you I said, you know what. I was going to the breakfast

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club, so I called men and this

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was why I know. That's why I know God it's real, not just not

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to not to change it to

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a religious date. That's what I feel like. God was

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testing me, like you ain't

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even rapping no more, you ain't gonna get

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no jay z favor. This is one jay Z favor,

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give it to your brother. And when I did

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that, my life has changed. I put someone

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else before me in a non selfish

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way. And boy, nobody gets

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a jay z favor and

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then you get it. You don't get that way,

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you don't give it away. Why when I gave

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it away, it was like my

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whole life change. So I always I

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always love that bro, But

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it was you see how that

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how that gold co released with what I said

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about it's not going

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away from you when it gets to the top.

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Okay, okay, okay, let's

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go. So

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it's like it didn't take anything away

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from you. Sometimes you

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get your blessings in a different way. People.

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I think a lot of a lot of people today

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they want instant gratification. Nobody

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wants to work. Nobody wants to put in

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the time. People see people

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and they see their success, but they never see

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what to get there and

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then not for nothing. They are some people that get lucky

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and they just take off quick.

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But that doesn't mean that

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you don't gotta put in work. Like you know, I have so

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many times people come like your ram, could

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you help me with this? And I'll be like, listen, I got

16:31

a bad idea. Soead of me giving you that right here,

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I'm gonna put you in a position to where they

16:35

don't want the position, Like it's

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crazy because I try to explain that people

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like, Nah, people don't be trying to put their

16:42

people's on, Like now I'm gonna put you on. I'm gonna put

16:44

you onto where I don't have to put you on no more like

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putting you on don't mean me just giving you five

16:49

thousand, ten thousands, because that's gonna

16:51

be going. I'm gonna put you in a position to where that

16:54

twenties gonna turn in the forties sixty and you

16:56

never got to come to me again. And

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people people don't want to work,

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they don't want that. They want their hands out, they like,

17:03

but you got it though, Yeah, I don't

17:05

want to keep it fun talking about giving

17:14

it to you today

17:16

you are president? How

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am I ever gonna How am I ever gonna go? I remember

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I had to be still be a

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teenager, and I

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remember Joe told me one day, He's like, you have to

17:29

get rich friends, right. I

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was like what it was good advice? I

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know that now. Then I was like thin sun

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out

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because when you're young, you're like yeah, I'm getting

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money. Everybody an

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old fly out with older this, and then you realize,

17:46

hold up, it's just crazy,

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and then your friends will coome entitled, like people

17:51

that literally were just locked up with me, like I met

17:53

you and wasn't let's

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be quick, I wasn't even supposed to be. I

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was like, I not eve like

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that was like the accident they

18:04

like, and they talked to like because some of my

18:06

friends, like I'm never gonna say most of my friends that I

18:08

hang with right now, all my friends from jail, like because

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I know they fuck with me

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because they fuck with me, like they was risking being

18:15

locked onto the box, like to do shift for me when

18:17

I was getting in trouble, Like those are my friends.

18:19

But other people that was there with us, like they'd be

18:21

trying to press them like well, if that's your friend, why

18:24

are you broking? Why you got two jobs? And I'm

18:26

sitting there like wait a minute. So

18:28

because you're my friend that I'm met at

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prisons, let's be clear where I met, like you, we gotta

18:32

fuck with you a long way clear

18:35

before I can go to You know, many friends I met from

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school in my neighborhood before

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I get to like, I got mad cousins,

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uncle's siblings, you know how

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far down a lot before I started taking

18:47

care of you. Like, but

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people really think that in their mind, they'd be

18:51

like, oh, like, if that's your friend, why are

18:53

you working? If that's your friend, why you don't have a car the

18:56

same as one of my second cousin or I have

18:58

a car. I don't know. It's not my it's not

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my jobs. Of what you will, it's like if

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I can, I will. But sometimes people

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they expect so much from celebrities

19:10

and it's just crazy. It's really

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really crazy how nobody wants

19:14

to work for it. They just feel like you should just yea.

19:17

They feel like they feel like

19:19

like if you got a nation or like this

19:21

and you buy something, like you buy a new car or

19:24

buy new jersey. They were like, that's they think that that's

19:26

they're cute to ask or something. This is the worst

19:28

time that if

19:34

I really should have dropped this bag right now, do

19:36

not ask me for ship, cause you just see me by

19:38

something crazy, not the worst time

19:40

ever, But for some reason, in people's

19:42

mind they'd be like, oh, now that's my chance. It's

19:44

really not, though, And if you say you're gonna borrow, can

19:47

you? If you say can I borrow, that mean you're gonna pay me back.

19:49

I want my money back. I'm not gonna lie. I got a friend

19:51

right now. He borrowed for me three times

19:54

and I don't and

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the but

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did he got mad at me because I don't

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even expect tell us if he wasn't

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here, yea everything.

20:12

And then he went through something else

20:14

recently and he put it. He

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put it on text and expected me to be like,

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well, I got you, and I ain't say I

20:20

got you, and he ain't speak six

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crazy. I have a problem with that, like

20:26

because the first time they get used to it. The

20:28

first time they're like, okay, I got to give

20:31

it to you. Can I have if

20:33

you tell me? If you tell me that

20:35

y'all, could you give me this stance, I will

20:37

understand that. I'm not going to expect if you ask

20:39

to borrow something, if you ask to longside,

20:42

you say, let me hold something, if you give me a

20:44

date when you're supposed to give it back. When that date

20:46

comes, I'm checking for you. I don't care how

20:49

much money I got. I want my money back.

20:51

That's just I don't care if I give you

20:53

two thousand. If you're a thousand, you

20:55

three thousand, and you four thousand. Like

20:58

you realize it at the ends of the mone you be like, I'm

21:00

not fitty bands out here. I'm

21:07

this is getting crazy. Like you don't realize that when

21:09

it happens, because it would be a little bit fits

21:11

two thousands at the end of the

21:13

month when your account and come to you and be like, hey,

21:17

what's this number, and you're like, oh, that's the wires

21:19

and the cash apps in the cells you had me sitting out. You're

21:22

like, oh, nah, this is crazy. It

21:24

just doesn't know how I want

21:26

my money. Anybody watching this, I want my

21:28

money back. When

21:30

it comes to the artist that were feeling entitled,

21:33

do you think it's generational or

21:35

not? Do you think it's them growing up on social media?

21:37

Like what do you think is a factor in the artist

21:39

artist? I haven't met any artists

21:42

that well you said, you said

21:44

that they want they want you to help them a certain

21:46

way, and they don't. Not

21:48

artist the one that's like,

21:51

first of all, I feel like if

21:53

you are not on yet, as people

21:55

say, you're trying to be in position, there's

21:58

no way that I should ever work in the yeah

22:01

said that we have, Yes,

22:04

we have, Like, how is it that I'm on

22:06

my right? But I've never try

22:09

to not being right ever again? Like, it's

22:11

nothing worse sidebar,

22:13

There's nothing worse than being broken and famous.

22:16

Yeah, change, it's

22:20

horrible. It's horrible,

22:23

like when you broke and nobody knows you. You're just a regular

22:25

another broken the rest of the broken things. You gotta

22:27

train buss your

22:32

like you regular. Everybody's broke, everybody

22:40

everything, everything, everything,

22:43

and you can't do it because now the next and now I'm

22:45

back in prison. Who knows that?

22:48

Quick? Well, we want you

22:50

to know. Our show is about giving people their flowers

22:52

while they're alive. So we want to give

22:55

you. We set up, we

22:57

want to come. We got a couple of things, literally give

22:59

you your flower hours. You understand. I was saying,

23:02

yea hold on to that

23:04

because you're motherfucking queen on the roads and you

23:06

were down with the team. You're motherfucking

23:08

really someone to give you motherfucking flowers?

23:16

About ten years? Yes,

23:19

yes, yes, fever Lisa,

23:21

ten years, I go with don't don't

23:24

you're going the middle of ten years and forever? Say

23:27

two and when paps on here. We

23:30

had these watches and he liked one. So they

23:32

said, pep, it's on

23:34

my night staging. But no,

23:37

but I want it out of my room, like

23:42

it's on the next dance. Like

23:46

boy, we didn't think about's

23:51

not going on the night day. Thank

23:54

you. It

23:59

was a guy watch company. They gave me an ear

24:01

fit once it's you. You

24:06

know, they know I'm a bank watch guy. I love watching

24:09

black love. Appreciate that. That's sinea

24:12

some noise. Since y'all, is

24:16

it time for y'all? I brought some flowers of my

24:18

because by the way I saw this marketing and

24:21

this this messed me up. I have some flowers

24:23

for you. God. This is I

24:26

don't know what this photos. Hold on, hold

24:29

on, no, that's it's called pussy charm puss.

24:33

You got you open it. You gotta

24:36

pick up all

24:41

the time. You have

24:43

to have one to show you open

24:48

my God. You just pick your face. That

24:58

is fine. Yeah,

25:00

pre roll you you have pre

25:02

roles, but I have my prero

25:04

holy ship. So this is a collapse.

25:10

Pussy Tomas and pizza push up. I

25:12

didn't with him. So these are the godmothers.

25:15

Oh wow, I the

25:18

godmothers. That's that's a pre

25:20

roll. This is

25:22

a pre roll holy ship, It's a cubaner.

25:27

We have them personally rolling it like it's

25:30

it's has

25:32

a nice little filter in it. Enjoy.

25:34

Yes, you say

25:36

something nice about our So

25:54

what made you get into the cannabis business and what made

25:56

what made you? Two part question? What made you

25:58

getting the cannabis? Pennis? Who

26:00

the hell came up with the idea for pussy charms? Okay?

26:02

So um, for

26:05

those that don't know, Like before, prior

26:07

to my concentration, I was like the biggest

26:10

part. Like I was like Snoop dog Met the

26:12

man was Khalifa. I was just a girl.

26:15

Um. And then of course I didn't

26:18

want to lose my trail of this, so I couldn't smoke. And then when I

26:20

came home, I didn't want to go back, so I couldn't smoke. I was gonna

26:22

p role for five years, so I was patiently

26:24

counting down the day so that when I could smoke

26:26

again. And then it's crazy because

26:29

all the people that didn't smoke while I was before,

26:31

before I left, everybody's pie had. Now now everybody

26:33

smokes good weed or strands

26:35

going on. I'm like, nah, I gotta see what's

26:37

what's going on here? So um, that was

26:40

definitely all my list of things to do, like I

26:42

gotta I gotta have the fire, like I'm

26:44

telling you I have.

26:46

I have a test over there. Did you bout the thumbs

26:48

up? He gave me a thumbs okay much

26:53

much of this gas, but um

26:55

the pussy charms on me and

26:57

my girl flow she came with

27:00

it. Um yeah, yeah,

27:02

jokes are paid. They We sat

27:05

down one day and I was like, Yo, this is what I want to do. So

27:07

were trying to think of different things that we could

27:09

do, and like it was just like a collaboration

27:11

of just sitting there thinking of some flash it and

27:13

I'm like, what does everybody like? Like what

27:15

does what would draw

27:18

people in? And then you started thinking of the design.

27:20

I drew it out. I'm one Google

27:22

like pretty pussies, like just

27:26

Google and ship now

27:30

because I don't understand they need to somebody

27:32

need to control that. Because the ones that was coming up

27:34

did not fit the description. I was like, what some

27:37

crazy shit out there? But we

27:39

came up with the design like I wanted to open

27:42

in the middle, I want the inside to be pink. All

27:45

the different details that came with it.

27:47

I sent it out. Took me like two months to

27:49

get to me because they're not easy to meet, and

27:53

I wouldn't pick my flower and then be

27:55

linked with pizza pusher, who, by the way, shout

27:57

out to him. I went to his rest

27:59

of our restaurant. Oh

28:03

my god. I was so stoned

28:08

because I didn't know it. But

28:11

I didn't know it was everything. I thought it was just the

28:13

pizza. So I'm sitting there with my lemonade.

28:17

I'm want to fake diet. So I'm eating my salad.

28:22

Fucking salad. I'm

28:27

hot, and I'm like, is it any like

28:29

the lemonade? He goes, It's

28:32

in everything, like what I'm

28:35

seeing, Like out of the gun I thought it

28:37

was a gallic knight. It's a gunja knight. The

28:40

salad. I had two lemonades. I didn't even

28:43

get to the pizza guest, so I'm like, I'm I

28:45

took a buy. I was like, it's good. It's crazy because it's

28:47

really good food. And then

28:50

the dessert comes. I'm like, yes, thank you. So it's like some

28:52

geltta ice crumbing, like yes, it will cool me down,

28:57

like everything, But I thoroughly enjoyed

29:00

and then we started talking and he has he has the

29:02

god bothers. I'm like,

29:04

oh, look at godfathers of guards like

29:06

this, but at the show he

29:08

sells them. You gotta go to Pizza pusher dot com

29:11

because he should have the Godmothers and the Godfathers

29:13

there. But the godmothers have um

29:16

Godmother's post a little more more, they little. They have the

29:18

same product as the pussy charms. So

29:21

you know you got the gas inside the godmother

29:23

because I smelled that, and I like the way you have to

29:26

smell it too. It's like, yeah,

29:32

it's not the first time. I'm sure profession

29:41

that is actually bill.

29:44

You know what's crazy. I

29:46

can't see a man selling dick nobody

29:52

as it's really

29:58

no like know what he wants to walk

30:01

around with, and it's

30:03

just just awful about

30:05

it. But even like with women

30:07

is a little bit different, like you know, even

30:10

you don't have to even be into women. But it's not offensive.

30:12

It's okay. I'm like cool with it. But yeah,

30:15

godmother charms, you

30:17

can follow that. Make sure you're looking to that god Mother charms

30:19

before they shut me down again. I had pussy charms, but

30:22

somehow, some way, I didn't even post something bad

30:24

like I actually have other bags because we plan on being

30:26

a dispensary soon. The other bags that haven't

30:29

had the block scents stripe on it. So

30:31

I didn't understand why they took my page down. It's

30:33

like it's just like it's it's a little bit of pussy. Wow.

30:36

She sure she never

30:38

hurt Canada. Okay, so um,

30:40

let me ask you this. How many times did you go to

30:42

the box when you was locked up? And how did

30:44

pat react to that? Three? And he was pissed

30:47

every time? That was his question, by

30:49

the way. Three. Well, the

30:51

actual like to shoot like special

30:53

housing you in it or just like locked

30:55

period, because they have different levels of lock.

30:58

This keep lock where you don't go to the special housing.

31:00

You're locked, but you're in yourself. I

31:02

can't count how many times. That was a lot of times.

31:05

I don't even know how many times. But whenever

31:07

it happened, I would lose my visits.

31:11

I would lose like my my trailer visits, my

31:13

Countugal visits, and he

31:15

would come to visit me and he'll be walking

31:18

in you know, that's that walkee guy. He looks

31:20

saying, He's like, I'm just watching him walk and

31:22

they're like, no, Mr Mackie, she's over there

31:25

and I'm in the other section with the pseudo and he's

31:27

like, are you fucking kidding me? And when

31:32

you're gonnly get a visit once a week when

31:34

you can't get before though, like what

31:36

I would do, I'm not gonna hold you. I will get in trouble.

31:39

And you get a Disciplinary ticket, they have a

31:41

certain amount of time that they have to process

31:43

your ticket or they have to throw it out. So

31:46

Disciplinary opens at nine and

31:49

it closes at three something like that, and

31:52

the visitor room opens at eight thirty and the

31:54

closes at four. So I would like, I would like you be

31:56

here at eight o'clock. Is because they can't

31:58

pull you off a visit to take you to dicip from everyone. So

32:00

I would have him come at eight in

32:03

the morning. As soon as they call the movement, they're

32:05

taking me to my visit. I missed this everybody

32:07

time to visit hours over, just when every never

32:10

was closed. So I beat a lot of tickets by

32:12

just being on a visit every day. But

32:16

it was this one captain one time, fucking

32:18

cocksucker he um. He

32:22

really wasn't like seriously it's like, because

32:24

why would you do that? Like he's seen, like he's

32:26

about she thinks shes getting out of this. When he came

32:29

and waited, he stayed over time like they didn't

32:31

even get paid for, brought the fucking little

32:33

tape recording all his little fucking notes

32:36

and brought it to shoot and then my my

32:38

hearing give me three months fucking Baskett.

32:42

Yeah, that it used to be because I used to feel

32:44

bad because he used to look forward to her conjugal

32:46

visits. I

32:48

mean yeah, but he was

32:51

acting crazy like it

32:54

had to happen, like I'm

32:56

sorry, Like next time, you know, I'll

32:58

try to like she told what you want me to do, but

33:02

I'm not that person anymore. Well, yeah, you

33:04

seem like I don't be put in those

33:06

situations anymore. Like I'm still the same person.

33:08

I don't think I'll ever change, but I'm

33:11

older now, I have different things that way more

33:13

to lose. And also, um now

33:17

I'm very happy that people don't

33:19

understand. It's like when you go away, when you go to prison,

33:22

like it affects other people outside

33:24

of you, and I just feel

33:27

like it would be very very selfish

33:29

in me at this point, like after seeing

33:31

what it did the first time to do that to

33:33

my husband or my daughter, or my son or just

33:35

my mom anybody ever again, you

33:38

know all they probably they probably suffered

33:40

more than me, like after the first time of us

33:42

like I was good, like I tell people trying, like I don't

33:44

really want to say it, but I have fun sometimes.

33:47

But what it's

33:53

like, I want to be miserable everything,

33:57

I'm gonna be depressed, like not being

34:00

He used to call me from the face and he used to make me happy,

34:02

like what are you doing in there? He was

34:07

he was happy and I was like, no, I guess like

34:10

he looked at it like every

34:14

day. Now let's turn out his lip,

34:16

like who's doing? Thanksgive for coming? Anybody

34:19

gets thirty four pals bad? I need to just go go

34:21

to the path or happen. But yeah,

34:24

it was it was. It was different. So let me ask

34:27

you, because you know we've all been locked up. I wasn't

34:29

locked up and famous. He was locked

34:31

up and famous. Was that more um

34:34

hard because the guards would want to be

34:36

more mean? Or do you or or it

34:39

was it was it harder than she was famous? Or you

34:41

got a little perks here and there. Oh well, I don't

34:44

have anything to compare to. I wasn't locked up when

34:46

I wasn't famous, so I don't really have a comparison,

34:48

but I can't say that it

34:50

was it was some of both. I had some people

34:53

that was just they fuck with me, like they felt

34:55

with me, or like remember where

34:57

I was at. It's the only um max

35:00

female prison is only about forty five

35:03

to hour outside of the city, so a lot of the people

35:05

from the town. It's not like when you're in Albion

35:08

or you like Damni in Canada and

35:10

you're dealing with a different set of set of people.

35:12

So a lot of people they knew my brother

35:15

or a new Joe or new like Blue Pat,

35:17

knew somebody that did some relations, or they

35:19

was just a fan show Bad Love um

35:23

And then you had those that I

35:26

thought that they was doing something

35:28

because they was like in

35:31

an upper hand and I would just take

35:33

the ticket, like disobey a direct order.

35:35

Whatever the charge you're gonna add on to it, it's not happening.

35:37

Like I don't know who the funk you think you told to. This

35:40

is not my life all year

35:42

in Crane made for now, bitch. When

35:44

I leave here, I'm gonna have a very different

35:46

life than you. Carl and Hanza's

35:50

dad. We told fucking

35:53

Microwave and as bit like funkings,

35:58

you talk about life and then people you like,

36:00

we should try to make me feel like that, like, oh, it's

36:02

over for you, You're not gonna be nothing. That

36:05

was my next question. Sorry to cut you off, because

36:09

it's it's it's everyone was looking at the Tupac

36:11

in effact, right, Tupac became like larger

36:14

than like when he came home. He's the only one.

36:17

But he had a rough in there though I believe

36:19

I believe he had it rough in there, but but

36:22

it was a fact. It was a Tupac in fact. What I mean by

36:24

that was his albums

36:26

went up. He went up in stature, which

36:30

created this misconception that if you go

36:32

to jail, when you come home, you're gonna be like He's the

36:34

only one that was able to come home

36:37

and immediately like be super little

36:39

because they were already crazy,

36:42

even with Sean, And we had Sean here too, and

36:45

we spoke about this. I felt

36:47

like even Sean he rhymed, He rhymed

36:49

too soon. When he came home, he couldn't find

36:51

his cadence, so it almost took away from

36:54

from the process. I

36:56

think people were just hating a little bit too. Yeah,

36:59

yeah, yeah,

37:01

it just was like just trying to find something wrong with

37:03

anything, like like we're living at every now where

37:05

everybody got a sucking the pain. I don't like

37:07

that show. I liked it when if he was a celebrity, what you said

37:09

was what it was there

37:13

right now, regular people, you just got a phone

37:15

and phone, so you gotta pay the funk

37:17

out of I don't like you right

37:20

now? Ya

37:26

cool? When

37:35

when you went in you were already a mother, mm

37:37

hmm. And how rough was that for

37:40

yourself mentally? Oh,

37:43

my son was seven. My

37:46

son was seven when I came home. It

37:48

was like a week before he turned fourteen, And

37:52

um, that must have been rough for

37:54

him. Yeah, it was. It was probably more

37:56

of rough for him than because all he knew was me with

37:58

me his whole life. Like I'm I

38:01

say all the times, like I would have rad that winning when he was

38:03

a baby and came home when he was seven. Man, then

38:05

when like it was a very that's a very pivotal

38:07

moment in child's like when you're

38:10

an adolescent turning into a teenager,

38:12

getting to know into becoming to your own

38:15

person. I feel like it still has an effect

38:17

on our relationship now and

38:19

it probably forever. Will Um

38:22

his life changed dramatically,

38:25

But it's Um,

38:28

it's unfortunate that people people don't think about

38:31

that, like what I'm saying, Like people they

38:33

think, oh, well the kid is with your

38:35

grandmother, there with their father whatever

38:37

the kids like. But he

38:40

had to come visit me in prison, Like he had

38:43

to visit me all the time, Like he came

38:45

on visits trailer business all that they would come stay

38:47

for four days or whatever, and then

38:50

with the crowd when it was time like to leave, Like he

38:52

hated leaving because it's like he doesn't say like, well I can't

38:54

just stay here with you. So um

38:58

yeah, my stepson to be like that a lot. Pap

39:01

son. He was like he was Cary worse than

39:03

my son. Like I remember one time who

39:06

was on a visit. It was just like a really good visit that

39:08

day, like we were just chelling, playing mad board

39:10

games or that. Mean it was time for them to leave, and

39:12

Um he went and asked the guard like could she just come

39:15

with us? Like I just feel like a little while like why could

39:17

she come with us and the guards Like, na, she can't come,

39:19

Like he was like devastating, Like he didn't understand,

39:21

Like I asked nicely, Like why I didn't

39:23

understand? Like he acts nicely, why can't go?

39:26

But um, kids

39:29

don't understand that. They don't understand that. Like I've

39:31

seen people go away and they tell their

39:33

kids that they at school there because

39:38

my kids ain't dumb. But I

39:40

did get a call degree, but I wasn't that fucking color.

39:50

I wish I would went to college. That's one of the things

39:52

that if I like I could do it. I wish I would

39:54

have went to collect When I meet people that like get sororities

39:56

and stuff, like my little sister went to college, and

40:00

that's something I would I like school. I'm

40:03

like, what those people that went to school and jail too, that

40:06

don't count. That's a count When

40:13

you finished, man, I was thinking about it. I

40:16

was thinking about it. I

40:19

definitely, I definitely think it counts.

40:21

Like it's real work. I do

40:23

real payments and really really same classes.

40:25

Like when we was at a little bit different Marry

40:27

Mount Manhattan College, they would have the professors

40:30

come up and sit with us and

40:32

like you know, it was just a whole situation. And they had

40:34

graduations and I see I got to actually

40:36

almost almost. Um

40:39

I got my bachelor's But I like you, I went

40:41

home then take home, like six months

40:43

earlier, I tried to start again, and

40:47

what happened. Oh yeah, I

40:49

got the ankle bracelet. When I came

40:51

home, I said, I was like, I'm gonna do it again. And right

40:53

around the time when I was supposed to start, I ended up getting

40:56

the ankle Poyson. That was like, I couldn't go. So you

40:58

came home, had anle bras. No I

41:01

was home, and then somebody said that I blacked

41:03

the right

41:06

and I was terrible. Yeah,

41:09

I like that. We neither I

41:13

beat that one though. That's right now.

41:19

I heard you got a crazy antie up story. Uh,

41:28

I know. He

41:31

always thought that was a crazy story. So

41:35

any one of the records that changed

41:38

my life. Like I tell people all the time, I tell people story

41:40

about any but I never tell them this story. I know which

41:42

story wants me to tell you. When

41:44

I try to explain to people that almost

41:47

everything that I did in my career that

41:50

got me to where I am now, and that really propelled

41:53

me into a different space. I did for free. Um,

41:56

when I did any up, I didn't get a dollar.

41:58

I didn't want a dollar. But did you question to be

42:00

on the rex? I don't know. What I

42:02

did was um Shawn C shout

42:05

out to sea. He

42:07

was the A and R allowed Records, and I

42:10

begged him to get me the instrumental

42:12

because at the time, Um, but

42:19

I didn't have a record. I didn't have anything. Fun had

42:21

just passed. I still have my record deal I

42:25

could bring pun back and trying to figure it out.

42:27

So I'm thinking that was something that never was hooked up. So

42:33

I begged him to give me the instruments. I'm like, it

42:35

would give me the instrumental, let

42:38

me wrap on it. Just give me an instruments before thinking

42:40

of a remix. I knew they was working.

42:43

I know,

42:47

yeah, so, but they didn't know me. I had never met

42:50

them or anything. And

42:53

I gave me to be I did the record. I'm

42:55

like, okay, now favorite number two.

42:57

Get it to them like I need to him.

43:00

So he did that, and they

43:02

thought. I think that she thought I was like a

43:05

boy. They thought I was like a boy like y'all. See,

43:07

I got this batty White ship on my

43:12

shill. So

43:14

you didn't have a record out before. The

43:17

only record that I had out was Miss

43:19

Martin on Puns album. But remember

43:21

it came out after Punt had passed.

43:24

So people have heard me, like, yo, who's

43:26

this chick on Punt album? Own

43:28

record on funds album, but

43:30

nobody had never seen me. Nothing crazy. Gotta get

43:32

that later. Make sure mind

43:35

you mind you. Oh

43:38

this is a little sidebar. I'm all

43:40

the way pregnant. I'm like a team pregnant mom

43:43

at this point where I'm sending this, So

43:45

I'll send him the record or whatever, and

43:48

I'm imagining you're in the booth pregnant that

44:03

so um, we go to the studio.

44:05

They set up a studio session because they

44:07

put in the record together. Now, so it's

44:10

me and his bill and dance and

44:12

busters there and um.

44:17

Prodigy was originally

44:20

on the remix pieces

44:23

of Prodigy. UM. And

44:27

let me just say this real quick. They reached

44:29

out to me to do a record for his project. I got

44:31

you. They have not sent me whatever they need to send

44:33

me, please, I got you. Like I

44:35

love Prodigy. He's one of the few people that wrote

44:38

me, sent me a book everything while I was locked up.

44:41

Um, but he was on the record, So

44:43

it's this big argument because

44:47

he's on the record and he's this and jay Z on

44:49

the record, you know, like

44:52

he's talking about I'm gonna shoot up your continental

44:55

Ty and like he's the

44:57

first was fire you

45:00

know me. I'm like yeah, but dropping like

45:03

I'm went all the smoke and

45:05

like they kept an officials they kept in Brooklyn

45:07

like, nah, he's not doing that. I don't know, record

45:10

if you want to. And then I get it, Like then

45:13

I was jugging. I understand, But now I understand.

45:16

Like if you put out a record and you put

45:18

somebody on your record, and you're supposed to be cool,

45:20

when you let them diss me on my right on your record,

45:22

it's up to you. When I see, yes,

45:30

that's the equivalent of I got beet

45:32

with a nigger. You have a car and they

45:34

shoot at the outside your car, out

45:36

of your car window, it's lit for everybody

45:38

in that car. As

45:41

a younger child, I'm like, let it go, let's see what

45:43

happened. They're like, NA, we're not doing that.

45:46

We're not so know

45:49

them

45:53

before that because they

45:58

kept the picture like we're not doing that. I'm

46:01

like, I but low

46:04

with a hole. A whole fucking

46:07

fight starts in the studio verse

46:10

the guy who introduced me to Punt. I

46:12

met Punt when I was working home from school

46:15

one day and with this kid that lived

46:17

in my mother's building. He knew

46:19

this guy, Sunkis. I used to hang with Punt.

46:24

Yeah. So it was on America's Most Wanted

46:26

or something ship you know that part Jimmy

46:29

Joe had to fight something. Remember

46:35

that you

46:39

can do, you take a challenge, anything like, remember

46:42

that. I'm glad he's changed. I

46:45

got a story about YouTube. Let's

46:49

continue. So Sunkiss

46:51

is in the studio and the conversation

46:54

ends up getting heated because we'd

46:56

like discussing shitty be on the record, should be taking

46:58

more with the record. I don't know what happened.

47:00

Buster starts getting crazy. He's

47:02

like turning into the Buster rhoms that

47:04

we see him to you in the studio. I'm like, you know

47:07

what I need to get out

47:09

on the record. Can I leaving

47:11

it? Like? It was just really really crazy. So they ended

47:13

up taking about the record. The record ended up changing

47:15

my life is a great record, which I

47:18

recently found out. I didn't know that I had beef

47:20

for Buster behind this record, like I didn't know, no,

47:23

no, seriously, just

47:26

out so let me tell y'all have some quick story so everyone

47:29

knows who has the best verse on any of I mean like

47:31

it's like I'm

47:39

shout outs everybody out the record, but I'm just saying,

47:42

you know whatever, whatever. So happens

47:44

doing the thought I was gonna stop remix and has

47:47

Wayne on it into chains

47:50

and bust them. And he

47:52

called me. He's like, your bad Buster want to talk

47:55

to you. So I'm like, okay, and I'm expecting

47:57

that my beautiful Gemini sister queen,

47:59

I love you look so good. That's what I'm expecting.

48:01

That's what I got. He's like, yeah,

48:04

I just laid my verse with

48:07

you. I was like okay. He's like yeah,

48:09

but you're gonna see when it comes. I's a hold

48:11

on, wait a minute, Like

48:15

I just like i' the

48:18

thought I was gonna stop remakes just dropped

48:21

buses on it. But yeah, but

48:24

the way he's talking like we had prior

48:26

beeps, Like I was so confused, Like he's

48:29

like, yeah, you gotta see when you did you hear again?

48:33

Oh It's like in

48:36

my hand I was saying because mind I had

48:38

a secret beet for him too, like the

48:41

touch of remakes and he got heavy and I

48:44

dig to see I'm like, I was like calling

48:50

you still okay,

48:55

So you know, for if y'all want, y'all can go listen

48:57

to the thought I was gonna stop Rema and see how that one was. YO.

49:04

Understand that story is so dope

49:06

because it alludes to what we was trying to say

49:08

earlier. It's like, not she's

49:11

nice for MC, she's nice, and

49:14

for him to him to he even

49:16

like challenged you like that or even like throw that in.

49:19

I was so confused people about

49:21

him yeo, because you

49:24

know he's gonna say

49:26

over the record unless res

49:29

on the record. But

49:33

I was actually I was so shocked. I was like

49:35

I hung up. I was like, babe, did He's just like come

49:37

for me? Like I was like, mind

49:39

you the whole time I'm talking path like I'm gonna kill

49:41

you and you're I'm gonna kill you. Ckick you want

49:43

me to do? He was annoying me so bad.

49:46

I'm like trying to be in my battle rap league.

49:48

Mold, I'm shooting a fucking I'm

49:50

filming queens. I'm filming

49:52

Wendy Williams. I'm not rapping

49:55

right now, bad. I need you on this. He

49:57

stopp pressing me. You you you real, Hollywood.

50:00

It gets crazy like I didn't even get this pushback

50:02

from two chains, Like I didn't even get this

50:04

from Little Wayne, like my own wife in my

50:06

house. I'm gonna keep asking. I'm like, yo, now

50:08

this it's

50:13

fucking New Year's Eve. I

50:16

said to everything I love, it's New Year's Eve.

50:18

He's sitting me like this, like I

50:20

asked Little Wayne once I had the record within

50:23

a hour to change.

50:25

I got the verse end

50:27

of video. No problem with my own wife.

50:29

Wow, Wow, it's

50:32

crazy. People knew

50:34

what the hood now it

50:36

was like, now you're trying to call my g card.

50:39

Don't check out the studio in the house. Yes, I

50:42

don't want to go in the house

50:52

out to birds

50:54

like no, no, no, no. I

50:57

hate that we have a studio in the house. I hate

50:59

it. Do you know what my life was like? Living

51:02

with a fucking rapper that recorded not

51:04

an EP? Fucking album?

51:09

Boy? Crazy

51:19

tiring after this, right, so I can't

51:21

take them all the ship. She was nuts, she's

51:23

really nuts. But no, we don't. We

51:26

don't even discuss music, not

51:29

discussing music. I explained it to people

51:31

all the time. This started before he's even married.

51:34

He was he was, I don't even think eating

51:36

it. We just like friends. But we knew we liked each other. We're

51:39

just friends. And he asked me one day and he goes,

51:41

who's your top five? So

51:44

I'm thinking it's a regular, innocent rap question.

51:46

I didn't know my fucking life was hanging

51:48

on the line. So I'm like, you know, my

51:51

top five changes, which I think that's

51:53

perfect sense because when

51:55

I was in high school and I liked Jada,

51:58

d MX and jay Z, I

52:00

didn't know Little Wayne was gonna exist

52:02

one day the way that he exists and what I'm saying. I

52:04

didn't know about Ja Coole.

52:06

I didn't know about a lot of people that my ship

52:09

changes over time. So

52:11

I tell my top five. I don't even know who it was. Then

52:14

he just lets me saying he's listening, like and then

52:16

when I finished, he looks at me, he goes, punt

52:20

has to be rolling over his I

52:24

was like, what, First

52:26

of all, you don't even know that we're

52:29

talking about music people like I was highly

52:31

offending. I wanted to fight first

52:33

of all, you don't already know Bronx people Brook people don't

52:35

even really funk with each other like that. So it

52:37

was just like like back

52:40

but so like I was just like, we're just

52:43

not gonna talk about it, like especially then

52:45

I realized, like he puts himself in his own top

52:47

five, Like

52:57

why like this conversation is going nowhere,

52:59

so we're don't talking music at all, you

53:01

know, speaking on Punt, this is one of the questions.

53:05

Uh, he said, where

53:07

do you think Pun would be in the game if he was

53:09

still alive? Right now? That's a fat

53:12

Joe question. That's fucking

53:16

Joe brother. Um,

53:21

if Pun was alive right now,

53:25

I think me know Pun

53:27

like he always he always wants to try to have

53:30

people saying ship like literally

53:32

like he I think he would probably be a ghostwriter for man

53:34

people. He probably have a mad artists and

53:37

they'll all be dumb nice But it's really him,

53:39

like all his different characters

53:42

that he was in, the different styles that he

53:44

had, Like he literally tried

53:46

to change my name like for two months, like would

53:49

not stop, Like can you imagine Punt

53:51

with a Twitter? No?

53:55

First of all, now that's now, now,

53:57

did your factor of social media, Paul. Paul

54:00

will probably be in jail, Like definitely

54:04

even what everybody

54:09

walking around with a cara phone, he

54:12

would definitely be coote on camera doing

54:14

a crate that he pulled. My poor

54:16

friend. He would probably be a jail

54:18

unfortunately, because he's

54:21

out of full control and

54:23

he and he's still between some house away from

54:26

there. Yeah, I think he would have loved Twitter. I

54:28

think him in Tupac would have love Twitter. He wouldn't

54:30

love He wouldn't love I g though, like or

54:32

no pund on TikTok. Could

54:34

you imagine punt on TikTok ok?

54:39

Yeah, TikTok, But

54:46

yeah, he I couldn't seem like reenacting all the

54:48

movies and stuff like that. But um, it's

54:52

I literally was just thinking about like twenty

54:55

years, twenty two

54:57

now passing two thousand. This

55:01

is this is this is one of my questions,

55:03

Um, did you ever see him sick? Because

55:05

one time I was not One time when

55:08

I was at the funeral, you know, I was so young

55:10

at the time. Um, it was giving like

55:12

everybody like you know, a couple of minutes to you know,

55:15

say they piece to him and I literally kneeled

55:17

down and got on my knees and I wer

55:19

Flex coming up to me, and Flex said to me, um rest

55:23

pflex too, by the way, Damn, it's crazy.

55:25

And Flex said to me, you know, the homies

55:27

not suffering no more. And I remember me being

55:30

mad because I was so young. I've never seen pun

55:32

stuffer. Obviously see Pun go to

55:35

the sleep Apnea ship like and I just think

55:37

my story was boring, so I should stepped my ship

55:39

up like

55:43

that. That's the most dispective thing you could do, Like she

55:45

just snoring on me. My brother didn't come back,

55:48

and then I don't have more energy, and then

55:50

I would realized he would do it again and it wasn't

55:52

me at all. But I didn't know that, but sleep Happy

55:54

that was too young, So I guess my question

55:56

was to say, um, you know, what Flex said

55:58

to me was my brother's not suffering anymore?

56:02

And I was like, what do you mean suffering? And

56:04

I was so young, and I could tell

56:06

that they knew. I couldn't understand.

56:09

I couldn't comprehend it. But now

56:11

you you got younger, So

56:14

did you did you see it? See that? I

56:17

didn't. I literally just recently

56:20

I was doing an interview and I realized,

56:23

Um, how short of a time

56:25

was. You know, when you're younger, time to go

56:27

slower, so like you feel like

56:29

he was in junior high school. Us in

56:31

high school for fifty years now

56:34

four years ago by so quick, like you

56:36

don't even realize it. So when

56:38

I when I was talking to somebody, I

56:41

was like, I realized that I didn't even know Punt

56:43

a whole year. But I

56:45

didn't even know Punt a whole year I was. I

56:48

met him, It was like at the end of the school

56:50

year, and then school has

56:53

started again, and he passed up in February

56:55

of the next year. So I didn't even know him. But

56:58

I was with him really every

57:01

day from the day that I met him. Like

57:03

he's one of those I don't know if he ever did this to you because

57:05

you had a career, he was moving around.

57:08

I was just I just had to school, which

57:11

don't like, who needs school? You're about to be famous? Pound

57:15

say something like that about

57:24

stopping school

57:33

you're going to be But it wasn't okay to skip school

57:35

to hang out with point. Yes, I would have changed it for the world.

57:38

But I realized

57:40

that I didn't know him that long. I

57:43

didn't, but I was with him every he would

57:45

hold me hostage. No

57:48

I couldn't go home, do you understand?

57:51

Like I would be like, no, I have to go home. Like

57:53

what do you need? I need clothes? Take her to the mall, take

57:55

it a for them, broll what do you mean? What do you like? Anything?

57:57

Like? He would try to bring it to you so that you wouldn't leave.

58:00

Eve. Um I tried.

58:02

The one time I remember, I was like I tried to pull up you know my boyfriend.

58:04

You know I haven't. He's like, oh, your boyfriend going like now

58:07

you're going too far. He's not coming over here. I

58:10

don't even like him like that, but

58:14

um, he would literally have

58:16

you there. Like I remember, like when

58:18

he passed, he was sitting in the hotel in

58:21

West chest So and like

58:23

the night before I was there.

58:25

I was there sleeping in his him

58:30

swimming and they had a pool continue

58:33

and he literally had me like there. I was

58:36

like sleeping in the room. I'm like, I

58:38

just want to go on, I

58:41

want to go home. But I'm glad he did

58:43

that because I got to I got to get to know him,

58:45

I got to be around him and see differently.

58:48

And all of these years I prompted you until

58:50

some time last year I was doing an interview and I was like, you

58:53

know what, I didn't know. I

58:55

didn't know him as long as I feel like I did.

58:58

But that goes with the a thing when when

59:00

you meet somebody when you're a kid

59:02

like you, you literally could have just had one year

59:05

school with him. You feel like he's with him for medlone

59:07

with somebody. Now. I tell people all

59:09

the time, like if people like, yeah, you know her from you

59:11

you know from where? If you did not see me in the past

59:13

six months, you don't know me, that's

59:18

I'm a different person. Yeah we was locked

59:20

up to guy, I know her. No, you don't different

59:23

person. Sorry, you don't know me. That's

59:25

a beautiful thing. Especially, that's a beautiful thing, especially

59:27

with growth. If you're going back with it's

59:29

a horrible thing. You're staying

59:32

the same. I don't want to be the same person that I was

59:34

five years ago. I don't want to be the same as I was last

59:36

year. Like I just I want to know the

59:39

goal was to elevating to be better. But

59:41

him doing that with you, you think it was his way of doing

59:43

artist boot camp. No, he's

59:46

just crazy. What

59:51

he this is how he introduced you to me.

59:54

That's how he spoke about you to me. He said, this

59:56

is the female version of me. And

1:00:00

though he was d nicest and

1:00:02

like he said, oh,

1:00:05

he meant that ship like he wasn't playing,

1:00:08

and he was like that, he was so proud of

1:00:10

you, Like you know, I'm proud of you, know what I'm saying,

1:00:12

because just to see like

1:00:15

his vision, like, um, God blessed, because

1:00:17

I don't want to. I don't want any other Terrofort squad

1:00:19

members or for the clips remember

1:00:23

to feel any great. But the way he bragged about you was

1:00:25

different. And at first

1:00:27

I thought this was because he was a female. But then I

1:00:29

heard you, and then I said, oh, but

1:00:32

this is the thing I met you before, you've been

1:00:35

told me about you. Okay, go ahead, put me on.

1:00:37

So I lived in Queens. I lived

1:00:39

in the story. Oh wow, that's why you out

1:00:42

of control. Story

1:00:46

is a bad place from

1:00:49

like when I was like hand

1:00:51

eleven, so I was about like sixteen seven

1:00:53

seen so um

1:00:56

it was me, my primo

1:00:58

league and my friend Mom because like the rest

1:01:01

of Peace of Monica. Actually a birthdays in like a couple of days,

1:01:03

and like we was like we were like popular, were like the popular

1:01:05

girls, right. So one day your

1:01:09

capone come out there and I guess

1:01:12

the room was like, no, we're supposed to be fire

1:01:14

with our kids and you in your camraight

1:01:17

and you're sitting in they introduced you just

1:01:20

run this to song. Song. He's like, so

1:01:22

this is sugar Hill. I

1:01:25

don't even know what the fun Bett

1:01:28

confused, like, like what

1:01:30

are you talking about? Like, first of all, like we're

1:01:33

marked deep in talk

1:01:44

about but from them, um,

1:01:47

from there, I used to see

1:01:49

what I wanted to. That's how no chin being

1:01:52

um be with Glorian I

1:01:56

came to one of your shows on tom I

1:01:59

think it was like I wanted to say, he was in Connecticut.

1:02:02

It was one, number one market and yeah

1:02:06

it was a big it was a big brawl

1:02:09

and yeah, yeah it was.

1:02:11

It was one. It was It

1:02:14

was crazy. It was so crazy.

1:02:16

But um who somebody had lost

1:02:19

their chained I don't know, somebody like somebody had lost

1:02:21

their chain. I was gonna cry. I was like, yea, his niggas

1:02:23

is really crazy. And

1:02:25

I was so confused because I knew

1:02:27

where he was from, and I'm like, that is such

1:02:30

a nice neighborhood. To system. We

1:02:38

was on the corner, little

1:02:41

cheap and

1:02:44

I was like, he's such a nice was

1:02:46

really crazy. And then

1:02:49

when I met you again later on and

1:02:51

he was like cool with punt, I was like, it makes perfect

1:02:54

sense. Crazy,

1:02:58

but I was outside of me okay, Like I

1:03:00

was always a big fan. I remember one year

1:03:03

he was on UM using the parade and

1:03:06

we was waiting for hours

1:03:08

for flots. That's what you had? Like what? So

1:03:12

we go? Me being a pithead that I was,

1:03:14

we weren't mad, like funk, I know it's a spot,

1:03:16

that a box, So let's go get somebody. You come back,

1:03:18

you should be here. So we're coming from the spot,

1:03:21

rolling up and we just here. I'm

1:03:23

like, is that yeah? Well, I said, we

1:03:25

chased the flow down. I

1:03:28

chased the floor down just so that

1:03:31

we can watch you perform, like so to see

1:03:33

you space of

1:03:41

one of my first meeting you as

1:03:44

Joe I believe, I believe passed away. I'm

1:03:46

not sure, but it was Yester session

1:03:49

and I was doing a hook. I don't know if you ever use

1:03:51

it, but I came late.

1:03:53

I came like an hour late, and I was

1:03:55

I was really into bronx women

1:03:57

at this time. So I put a bronx girl to the with

1:04:00

me last thing. As

1:04:03

soon as we walked in, you said, it's just just

1:04:05

the reason why you're late, and the girl just

1:04:07

left. He was so scared that she

1:04:16

was so scared that for you. I was

1:04:18

like, wait a minute, like going on.

1:04:20

It's like I'm from the brawls. You don't understand. She

1:04:24

doesn't like me, And I don't know if you knew her

1:04:26

not, and she thought you did. But it's

1:04:29

possible that's that's who you was. I

1:04:31

did. I did a lot of stuff. I

1:04:36

would never do that right now. You never

1:04:38

do that, would never want to make somebody feel uncomfortable

1:04:41

like that. But you know, I grew up a

1:04:44

lot of guys like seriously,

1:04:46

I don't have to, like you know, since I've been married, I haven't

1:04:48

really seen it and my guy friends anymore. Strange

1:04:51

thing. I don't know what happened. It's

1:04:53

not the same when you're married, like it just seems

1:04:55

weird when you have a bunch of guy friends like Pap

1:04:58

is totally cool with it and he's okay with it. But to

1:05:00

the outside world, it's it's

1:05:02

crazy because they don't they don't understand

1:05:04

that people said, like if you have a god that's like when I tell

1:05:06

you, I literally have people all my in

1:05:08

my comments sometimes like oh she posted him

1:05:11

more than her husband because I post Joe a lot. But we

1:05:13

worked together a lot, but I

1:05:16

feel more comfortable with male friends. Like

1:05:18

that's how so I was a little rough

1:05:21

around. I just like this this

1:05:23

this spitch is where you like like like

1:05:26

I probably was really how it fined.

1:05:30

I believe it waiting for you fun.

1:05:40

It was nice because

1:05:44

I didn't really have to stay and

1:05:49

Terra was the only people I would come around

1:05:51

with no other crew, Like I can come around about

1:05:53

my doughter because I'm good. Joe will come

1:05:55

around my crew do like that's it. He

1:05:57

don't have to have no crewe. He still does that to this day

1:06:00

before we go to UM put time a slide.

1:06:03

Who else tried to sign sign you other

1:06:05

than Terroce squad? Oh God,

1:06:08

when I know when I first um

1:06:12

when not when come first passed? Like

1:06:14

it was obviously just so many different calls, like

1:06:16

it was somebody from from nas

1:06:18

camp that was reaching out swissing them was reaching

1:06:21

out UM and Joe was

1:06:23

like and I was I was not really

1:06:25

show what I was gonna do because the Pun's not here. This

1:06:28

is who Like when Punt passed, I didn't really know Joe

1:06:30

like that Joe. Joe didn't

1:06:32

like Joe was starting to mature

1:06:34

ready, Paul was still fucking crazy. So

1:06:38

and when he when he was

1:06:41

gone, I didn't know where it was gonna happen. I

1:06:43

didn't know if the records that we had

1:06:45

Dad was gonna make the album now because he's

1:06:47

not here to oversee it. And people

1:06:50

was reaching out to me like yo, can we have

1:06:52

a meet? And can was talking um. I

1:06:55

remember it was at the funeral and Joe

1:06:57

comes to me. He goes, I

1:07:00

know right now, you're not really sure you

1:07:03

know what's gonna happen. You're probably you

1:07:05

know, questioning, you know where you go from here. He's like,

1:07:07

I got you. I was

1:07:09

like okay, He's like, nah, I

1:07:11

got you. Like you're good. You are like you ty

1:07:14

a squad. Pun said you trying to squad

1:07:16

your terrior squad. I'm like, okay, I guess

1:07:19

squad, but I

1:07:21

mean I don't. And it wasn't that I didn't believe

1:07:23

it. It was just like I'm from the Bronx

1:07:25

and I don't believe we

1:07:27

don't believe anything. Like talking

1:07:29

said, she's going through said, right now,

1:07:31

you still just trying to consumee trying to everybody's trying

1:07:33

to console each other. But um, now

1:07:37

you know, twenty two years later, like we

1:07:39

talked about the time, I'm like, yeah, I really feel like in another

1:07:41

life, like we were connected. Like I feel like most

1:07:44

of our biggest moments are intertwined

1:07:47

somehow somewhere, which is cool. I love

1:07:50

it like it's my daughter's god father. I'm

1:07:52

still gullible, like to a certain extent.

1:07:54

And what I mean by that is I

1:07:56

still have wishes to seeing all the Terrost squard

1:07:58

members together. Yeah that's alciousious.

1:08:03

Definitely, you

1:08:08

know, I truly do, because the

1:08:12

happiest I've ever seen pun was around

1:08:14

his crew. Yeah. But this

1:08:17

is the thing, what happens

1:08:19

is and this is what I had to realize because when

1:08:21

I think back, like you, you, we we go through

1:08:24

so much when we think

1:08:26

that we're grown, like what happened with us, like

1:08:28

we all were forced to grow up really

1:08:31

young. You feel old right

1:08:33

now? Sometimes we feel old like people like god

1:08:35

man, I'm like, you're not, Oh, shut up, you just

1:08:37

feel old because when he was fifteen sixteen seventy.

1:08:40

He was doing ship that phone people

1:08:42

do, like I talked about like my

1:08:44

son and my kids, like I had my son when I was really

1:08:46

young. The ship he asked

1:08:48

me for like I asked my mother for his age. I probably

1:08:51

got knocked out, like she probably

1:08:53

popped on me, like like by the time opposed,

1:08:55

I was literally like taking care of my whole family.

1:08:58

We had different responsive realities. We were doing

1:09:01

things that adults do at very young ages.

1:09:04

He was in the clubs, he was in the streets. So now

1:09:07

that we're at that age, it's like, oh,

1:09:09

I'm old because you feel like you know, did everything.

1:09:11

But we were really not old, but we think

1:09:14

we were so fucking young. I

1:09:16

was so young and I was still in fucking high

1:09:18

school when I met Punt. I

1:09:20

was still in high school when I did any up. And

1:09:24

and it's so crazy because now people

1:09:28

we were grown, and people are

1:09:30

said in their ways, they have their own things, and

1:09:32

sometimes what people don't understand

1:09:35

when things happen to you when you're really that it fucking

1:09:37

traumatizes you. And I

1:09:39

feel like some of the things that that happened,

1:09:42

it's not that it can't be faxed it's just like it's no,

1:09:45

it's it's no point of fixing it, if

1:09:47

that makes sense, Like nobody nobody

1:09:50

benefits because nobody's really distorted. I don't

1:09:52

feel well, that's just a couple of people, like bro get

1:09:55

over it. What But for

1:09:57

the most I felt like everybody is in their own space

1:09:59

and their own and it might do

1:10:01

more harm than than better. Like in

1:10:04

my opinion, that's

1:10:07

really and this is this is this is actually a question.

1:10:10

It's saying you stay out of the way with

1:10:12

Pun's wife and all the controversy

1:10:15

with Joe. How do you feel about this situation

1:10:18

us the fun that's stupid, Like

1:10:21

I'm let me tell you, I changed,

1:10:24

but I'm still like maybe

1:10:26

like I changed a lot deep inside him the same person,

1:10:28

and Shi's not deep inside. She's just like a paper

1:10:30

cut away. We're

1:10:34

like like,

1:10:38

but I'm really not, just like my first

1:10:41

thing is to resort to violence, like I don't. I

1:10:43

cannot take disrespect, I cannot think so

1:10:46

And I feel like a lot of things that I know and

1:10:48

a lot of people that no certain ship,

1:10:50

they be trying to change navratives. Once time

1:10:53

goes by, people trying to change navratives

1:10:55

like even when his kids like people like, yo, you should do

1:10:57

just like like his kids were really really young

1:11:00

when when he passed away, he was and

1:11:03

I feel like some of the things that they think or that

1:11:05

they know about him, some things that more that they were told

1:11:07

as opposed to that they experienced. And

1:11:11

people just people are always going to feel a certain

1:11:13

way, Like even even now,

1:11:15

like I'll post Joe like not so

1:11:18

much now because he's he's he's kind of turned

1:11:20

into like this hiter

1:11:23

that's like bigger than life, Like I think he's

1:11:25

probably the most famous that he's ever been, like

1:11:28

hanging with him because to take all the fame famous,

1:11:35

but probably like we were in a space when it wasn't

1:11:37

as much as it is now, Like people will come up

1:11:39

whenever I post. Some people will come on my page and

1:11:41

they stay like she's like, oh, he needs to be doing

1:11:43

this, And people don't understand, like it's

1:11:46

been so long that even our kids aren't

1:11:48

kids anymore, Like the kids

1:11:50

are adults with kids of their own problems.

1:11:54

A lot of he be a grandfather right now, and

1:11:56

and when does it come not be

1:11:59

the responsibilit reality of you know, like that

1:12:01

like even like with my own son, like

1:12:03

people like, oh, he is a

1:12:05

whole grown person that does

1:12:08

what the fun you want to do, like if you watch your

1:12:10

starf smoking, drinking, sucking, said

1:12:12

like, I'm out of this, like like

1:12:20

that's that's just the rules that I live. But I'm

1:12:22

sorry, Like and I

1:12:25

think it's just a touchy subject because he Joe

1:12:27

feels how he feels, she feels how she feels.

1:12:30

I know how I feel about it, and to

1:12:32

just avoid those shows, I just I just

1:12:34

stay out of it, like I don't wanna. I don't want

1:12:37

to rub anybody the wrong way. And like I said, I didn't

1:12:39

I knowing that I didn't know him as

1:12:41

long as I as I thought what

1:12:43

I did, But he

1:12:46

never did nothing but good for me, I'm

1:12:48

saying. So I can't nobody ever talk

1:12:50

bad about him, Like you can't

1:12:52

tell me nothing about this man. I don't give a funk

1:12:54

what you say. Would you try to show me? Like to

1:12:57

me, he changed my life and

1:13:00

changed my life. When I saw my first deal, I

1:13:02

took half of my advance and sent it over

1:13:04

there like here, that's for his kids, Like like that's

1:13:07

that's I don't know what else,

1:13:10

Yeah, UM got going on

1:13:12

or whatever films I may have, but I

1:13:14

can't play a part in that because can

1:13:17

nobody tell me nothing about this man like he changed

1:13:20

my life? And and a lot of times I think people go through

1:13:22

that, people like, oh, this person is a bad person and this

1:13:24

person is You can't tell somebody how

1:13:26

to feel about somebody to them, like maybe

1:13:29

you may have to experay. And that's why I also so I get people

1:13:31

to benefit of the doubt because people are

1:13:33

like, oh, she did so he's this type of person.

1:13:35

It might have been like that to you, that

1:13:40

not to me, not to me, So

1:13:43

it's hard for me. And I feel like a lot of times

1:13:46

people people want people

1:13:49

want the respect and the accolades and want

1:13:51

you to praise them because their relation to

1:13:54

relationships to a person. But

1:13:57

when you talk bad about that person and you

1:13:59

try the the dirt on this person's name and you

1:14:02

cause harm to to the legacy, it's

1:14:04

hard for me to give you the

1:14:07

love or for the same person's name, Like it just doesn't

1:14:09

make sense to me. Like people they'll

1:14:12

be I see, I see hives do it all the

1:14:14

time. They'll break up with their divorce their

1:14:16

husband. He's a piece of ship, he's this he's that, but

1:14:19

then I want to keep the last name and want me

1:14:21

to give you some

1:14:23

type of car belonged or cheat your specially way because

1:14:25

you was the wife. No, he told me

1:14:27

he was a piece of ship, right, So

1:14:32

I can't like you. You gotta pick which one you

1:14:34

want. Do you want to slander this person

1:14:37

or do you want to lift them up? I feel like a lot of things

1:14:39

over the years um with

1:14:42

with Punt, I just I just don't I

1:14:44

didn't understand the narrative

1:14:46

of the goal that people were trying to trying

1:14:48

to everybody was was was taking

1:14:50

your stance for me and minding a business.

1:14:53

And I think the part that made

1:14:55

people take take

1:14:57

picks was when she put

1:15:00

out that tape. That tape made

1:15:02

people say NOA, I

1:15:04

get that, I get that, but like

1:15:07

I said, it's hard. I see that, and it's

1:15:09

horrible and it's the worst thing and you should

1:15:12

never do that. But this

1:15:14

person changed my life. I've

1:15:18

never seen I've never said I've never seen

1:15:20

that ever, you know what I'm saying. And then

1:15:22

you go, Okay, if that is how you feel,

1:15:25

and this is what you the picture that you want

1:15:27

to paint, how can you then want me

1:15:30

to compensate

1:15:32

or take care of or show

1:15:34

love or do whatever on the strength

1:15:37

of the same person's name. It's

1:15:39

just confident. It doesn't make

1:15:41

sense to me. So I'm just gonna do nothing

1:15:44

because they've never done anything something.

1:15:46

I wish the best for his whole family. I would

1:15:48

never ever want anything like I go in the

1:15:51

same way if I was around him every day, I was

1:15:53

around them every day, because he has family with him every single

1:15:55

day. I'm saying, and like

1:15:58

I was really young, I don't

1:16:00

know a lot of things experienced

1:16:02

this, Like I like, I'm

1:16:05

older than you, but I'm not experienced with this. I don't have

1:16:07

this. I don't have no other example of this in my

1:16:09

life. You understand I'm saying. So I

1:16:12

heard a rumor one time. I ain't

1:16:14

gonna say who you say, and they

1:16:16

just said, no, he just does

1:16:18

whatever fact Joe says, and it's just like, that's not

1:16:20

the truth. I ride with Joe

1:16:23

whatever. If I feel Joe was wrong, it's

1:16:25

just it ain't gonna be public. It's gonna be

1:16:27

between me and him because that's one of

1:16:29

my best friends. One of the problems of today

1:16:32

is everybody feels like if it doesn't happen

1:16:34

on social media. I

1:16:37

get into it a lot with

1:16:39

people that I know because I

1:16:42

didn't shout them out on their birthday or

1:16:45

I didn't post somebody that passed away. First

1:16:49

of all, I just think that's fucking weird when

1:16:52

somebody you

1:16:55

like, when somebody like

1:16:59

I'm said that, and I'm gonna say that, I'll

1:17:02

be posting. I'm

1:17:05

not searching through my phone trying to find

1:17:07

picture like I don't. I don't even want to talk about

1:17:09

like my grandmother passed away, like I was like, oh I

1:17:11

didn't know then, because then I'm not posting

1:17:13

my grandmother. But I don't want nobody to

1:17:15

sething like if you know you know, like I don't want to like, hey

1:17:18

guys, sorry, I've been off for social media

1:17:20

for a week because my grandmother's like that ship is just

1:17:23

weird to me. People that cry in the phone

1:17:25

weird to me. What I is fucking

1:17:27

weird. I look at you crazy. I don't care if you

1:17:29

ever cry on social media you put up a video.

1:17:32

Trust me, when I see you, I may say hello,

1:17:34

I may dab you up, but I'm looking at you like you're fucking

1:17:36

crazy. When you walked away, we talked about your dog.

1:17:39

Um people that people

1:17:41

that I know or the only person

1:17:44

that I probably post. I might post my husband or

1:17:46

my daughter because she's a baby, and

1:17:48

um Joe Joe and says y'all

1:17:51

says I need the love I

1:17:53

need, but love me please,

1:17:56

like it's my first So I'm literally

1:17:58

forced because so but then I

1:18:01

have other people that they were like y'o to throw me

1:18:03

up on your birthday. First of all, let's just be clear, I

1:18:05

trust people a lot of fucking money to post

1:18:08

it on my page. You want to post on your birthday,

1:18:10

I can't. You

1:18:12

don't have your right now, Like

1:18:15

I don't. I don't give a funk about social

1:18:17

media, Like I don't. Like I have friends

1:18:19

that literally they like, yo, you

1:18:21

don't brag enough what like

1:18:24

to me that it's just crazy

1:18:27

because I'm just different. I go

1:18:29

up around different type of niggas, different type of

1:18:31

people that dudes that bragged about

1:18:33

it. They were like corn balls to us, like

1:18:36

you was like, use use a bozo

1:18:38

like you bragged about your calls. You're

1:18:41

like, actually you're probably gonna get robbed,

1:18:43

Like oh really, you know what? Get

1:18:47

them like like like

1:18:50

you use a mark like you was a stain. But

1:18:53

it's it's just hard for me, Like I'm not like

1:18:56

literally after I have more friend she said, and she's like,

1:18:58

I'm coming to your house that you don't want to start,

1:19:00

I'm doing it. I'm going to the poll, I'm

1:19:02

going to your closet. I'm like that to me that that's

1:19:05

not cool to me, Like, I don't I

1:19:07

don't get on. I don't

1:19:09

feel I don't even feel comfortable doing that, Like it's

1:19:12

just it's really weird to me. Like when people come

1:19:14

like I don't even like people taking pictures in my house, Like I don't

1:19:16

even like people. You don't live in my house. I be like, who a you're

1:19:18

talking to better fact,

1:19:21

that's cool, you a new words time for I

1:19:24

don't want you on live in my house. I don't want to post

1:19:26

the inside of my crab. I don't want to post my cars. I don't

1:19:28

want to post my Jerry. I don't want to post any of

1:19:31

that. That's just super duper

1:19:33

weird. But we live in an era where that's

1:19:36

what people do. That that

1:19:38

that that's the thing I'm you

1:19:41

know, SE's just on. I'm just a different

1:19:43

type of person, So be clear, I'm

1:19:45

not broke like just

1:19:51

because you don't see it a

1:19:58

quick time with right, Okay,

1:20:01

all right, so the rules is this.

1:20:03

You're smiling. I don't like it because

1:20:06

this is everyone's part of the show. All

1:20:08

right. We're gonna give you two choices, multiple

1:20:11

choice. You can pick one or the other. If

1:20:13

you pick one or the other, that's

1:20:16

it, that's it. You're good. But if

1:20:18

you most of the time people want to be politically correct.

1:20:20

So if you pally correct, you say both. If

1:20:22

you say both, or to take a shot, Oh

1:20:25

no, but you can do the shot of wine. And

1:20:27

we're taking the show, and we're taking a shot with you, and

1:20:29

we're gonna were drinking hard, drinking

1:20:32

hard. I'm probably I'm probably

1:20:34

not gonna care. Almost

1:20:37

positive. Everybody says that'll

1:20:40

be lying. I really don't care. A

1:20:45

cool hold on, let me you got an

1:20:47

unopened bottle of my mo wana, I

1:20:51

think it. Don't let me, let me let me smoke a

1:20:53

god mother to them talking about we

1:20:58

need to do that overall. You you

1:21:00

live in New York. It's none of that. None of that. That's

1:21:04

crazy contra for you

1:21:07

can't even drink alcohol, which is leaving. If

1:21:10

you can't drink like that that's

1:21:12

what they turn it. Because now if you can smoke, if

1:21:14

you want parole, which is crazy, that's

1:21:17

crazy. You can smoke, what if you you

1:21:19

can't drink? That's maybe makes sense alcohol?

1:21:22

Does it to me? That just tell

1:21:25

you that someone get

1:21:27

my shot? Ready? Shots ready?

1:21:32

All right? But

1:21:35

zooming on that godmother right there? Ye all

1:21:38

crazy because I'm call if

1:21:40

I smoke this, I'm a gonna up that

1:21:43

be smooth. Do you see that the filter that's in the

1:21:47

smoking like a cigar? Let me smoking

1:21:49

like you gotta smoke. It's the y'all. Y'all.

1:21:52

Yeah, like it's the y'all. Okay, Queen

1:21:54

Latifa m c L. Maybe

1:21:59

you can take a shot and one a one.

1:22:02

I'll see. Can

1:22:04

I explain why I love

1:22:06

them both? Actually talked to Light more. But

1:22:10

when it comes to like the grandsling, I've always looked

1:22:12

up to Lie. I super looked

1:22:14

up to Light and I talked to her all the time. She's like assistance

1:22:17

to me. But I feel like, well, she

1:22:19

was the first one that

1:22:22

looked like me. She wasn't

1:22:24

like super

1:22:26

light skin, curly, wavy hair,

1:22:28

down a bag size too. She

1:22:31

had on talk show, she had on

1:22:33

record label she

1:22:43

was. She was a fucking cover girl, crying

1:22:46

out loud like she was, like when the makeup commercial

1:22:48

came on that that was Lie, Like she did

1:22:50

Broadway. She's like she did

1:22:53

so much like that. I just feel like she's

1:22:56

here. She's here, like light is here. But

1:23:00

it's like she's just she's just in a space

1:23:02

at her own like I think a lot of people that know probably don't

1:23:04

even know that she was a rapper. That's how far gone she is.

1:23:06

They don't know if she saw so I gotta give

1:23:08

it to Lie not to take that Rock

1:23:10

Kim or Big Daddy King. It

1:23:13

was easy, No, it wasn't. I

1:23:16

love I love rock

1:23:18

Kim, but I know Kana do it

1:23:20

right now, right now? What happened

1:23:23

right now? I don't know if I killer doing right

1:23:26

now. I see Jordan and my Magic Johnson

1:23:28

to see each other, and Jordan said, putting your shoes,

1:23:30

I'll take you right now, like what was happening

1:23:32

at like each

1:23:35

other. He's like, if we just shoes, I

1:23:38

see it right because I know Kim would do it right

1:23:41

now. Kim Mike too. I

1:23:43

don't know that I know right

1:23:46

now. King's gonna go okay, thank

1:23:48

me later, that trying to take your shots. Problem.

1:23:51

This is this is cool for us, Tupac

1:23:54

or DMX. I'm taking a shot to this regardless

1:23:56

X, I'm taking a

1:23:58

shot to that. Cheers,

1:24:02

And now you want to explain why you don't.

1:24:05

I love dear backs. I

1:24:07

love Tupac. I never met Tupac,

1:24:10

but I love him too. I never bet him, I never met need

1:24:12

them. Damn, Max is the only person

1:24:14

on the planet Earth. Every

1:24:17

time, not sometimes not

1:24:19

moved to the time. Every time

1:24:21

I've seen this nigger, he made me fucking

1:24:24

cry. I don't cry. I'm

1:24:26

not a crier. Like if I cry, move,

1:24:28

go away, get far away, like I'm piste off

1:24:31

about to get flipped up. Like every

1:24:34

time I've seen this man, like he just the the

1:24:37

ship that he was saying, and the

1:24:39

passion like and his his his

1:24:42

intuitive to know like what

1:24:44

you needed to hear it. That moment was just fucking

1:24:47

uncanny. And every time

1:24:49

I've seen this man, he made me cry like and it

1:24:52

wasn't it was like, none of you go to church. I don't know it was the last

1:24:55

time you. Every time I go to church, it's weird too. I cry when I

1:24:57

go. I'm like, I'm like, why the funk am I crying

1:24:59

because I think about all the bad ships that did I gonna

1:25:01

go to Hell. I don't want to go to ilse hide. I don't like what it hid

1:25:04

like that

1:25:07

goes to like I will

1:25:10

die in hell, and so I get

1:25:12

to take the summer. I don't want to show think

1:25:16

something like I did enough. But when you pet church and stop,

1:25:18

maybe you think about like ship stuff.

1:25:21

I meet the qualifications and she was like, I don't

1:25:23

know, but do they got cash after church?

1:25:26

I don't know if they have, but

1:25:28

the last time I went to church, I'm gonna

1:25:30

tell you it really fucked me up. I walked past

1:25:32

the room talking about the size of this room, and the entire

1:25:35

room was filled with a T M S. It

1:25:38

was a rule left that question

1:25:40

I was. I was offended

1:25:43

though, like I was just like, what the fun

1:25:45

like? It's a cash business. I don't like it. I

1:25:49

like that. But XMX, just

1:25:52

because of how he personally made me

1:25:54

feel fire and rest

1:25:56

in peace to both yes bab or to

1:25:58

kiss Yes, I love you fad

1:26:00

but kiss yea

1:26:03

even don't biggs on that versus only

1:26:08

I'm

1:26:12

just standing. I'm

1:26:15

happy. That's That's one person. I'm

1:26:17

happy getting spies. He gets so much money.

1:26:19

Every time I see my like this, niggas

1:26:22

getting so much money, and I love it.

1:26:25

Two Sometimes it takes a little bit longer to get

1:26:27

your bag. I love it. I love

1:26:29

it. He's a spit up biggie or bigger

1:26:32

Biggie yo

1:26:35

yo, or lady of rage. Just gonna

1:26:37

not let me give me an explanation, just gonna let me if

1:26:45

I'm not taking the shots, I might explain it. I

1:26:47

was. Actually I was on big El's albums,

1:26:50

the first goal play, I've a Got yep,

1:26:53

Yes he passed away, the

1:26:55

tribal songs called tribal is

1:26:57

me and him and fun't

1:27:00

think of the other person because I'm vishing song to get

1:27:02

high now. But that was the

1:27:04

first plot I got. Really,

1:27:08

I was on the Big but big is just different.

1:27:10

Changed my life. Yeah, no, he changed

1:27:12

my life. I was. I was hearing

1:27:15

him change your life changed everything.

1:27:17

And I thought I was big, Like I thought

1:27:19

I was Like I was in the box

1:27:22

one day hanging out with a girl right

1:27:24

obviously before I was married, guys um

1:27:27

And she said, and she said to

1:27:29

me, the ship turned my life around. She

1:27:31

said, it's boring I wish there was a biggie

1:27:34

song out. She

1:27:37

described a biggie song like it's like great

1:27:39

advention. Like I was just like, and

1:27:42

that's what I made super Dogs because

1:27:45

I was like, I want that, Like she

1:27:48

was a ball though she didn't know what you're saying. That

1:27:51

changed the whole knew something.

1:27:53

She didn't know what she was saying, like Big my

1:27:56

favorite rappers, and not saying

1:27:58

that there wasn't anymore, but like I was new dog

1:28:01

fucking ice cube like that. That

1:28:03

was the fucking West Coast hashh it grew

1:28:06

locked like nonsim I'm saying.

1:28:08

If you was listening to wrapping a car, like that's what she

1:28:10

was listening to. When Big came

1:28:12

out, it was like, wait, what he's

1:28:15

talking about? Wall people in the train? Ship

1:28:17

that you really go through when you know you gotta the train, you

1:28:19

gotta take your fucking air rings off because

1:28:21

you just fucking crazy. New

1:28:25

York City, right right, ship

1:28:27

New New York City. Now New

1:28:29

York is giving

1:28:32

me very much Back in high school days, you have

1:28:34

to fucking tuck your fucking

1:28:36

bookbag, doesn't eave your coat, harrying

1:28:41

up, she's crazy, all right? Um so

1:28:45

did we say yo, yo, lady, rage

1:28:48

rage you

1:28:51

want to give it. I like both of

1:28:53

them, okay, right dicker or Eve dicker,

1:29:00

let's see, or a little Kim. You

1:29:03

ain't gonna make us stick a shot at all? What

1:29:07

the funk? I

1:29:10

love it? I love it. I don't know what I like. I like. I

1:29:13

like both of them. Y'all asked questions when everybody

1:29:16

obviously likes bore exactly.

1:29:18

But you will be up here lying and I

1:29:22

see listen, listen you because I said,

1:29:24

Kim Kim,

1:29:29

I love that Tan clan

1:29:31

or d I t C. Sorry

1:29:33

Joe, now

1:29:38

I love them. Took me to get that snap. It was

1:29:40

like beats me back then, like it was from

1:29:43

this that

1:29:49

he's like off, but it's fires

1:29:59

like you listen, there's some dudes in the ruin they

1:30:01

catch you under. That's a real scene.

1:30:04

That's Joe. That's love.

1:30:11

You might get jumped. Shout

1:30:14

out to obsessed,

1:30:17

like what I

1:30:20

bought this baby like a fucking wou

1:30:22

tang Onesie when he had his daughter you to throught. I brought

1:30:25

him a fucking Gucci guys or something. Bro

1:30:27

it's ten dollars. It's

1:30:30

exclusive. Okay, podcast

1:30:33

a radio podcast,

1:30:37

repe guy, I

1:30:42

mean, we dispect the radio. We still love you, just

1:30:45

not as much as podcast. I mean, you know speedling,

1:30:47

there's seedling. A lot of niggers here, right, It's changing

1:30:49

a lot of artists, lots Juice

1:31:01

or New Jack City. New Jack

1:31:04

City definitely

1:31:07

explained that one. Yes, please, Juice

1:31:10

was fired Jack

1:31:12

City. That should change

1:31:14

people life. That's the carter, right, that's what That's

1:31:17

what baby, you

1:31:20

know, change

1:31:28

artist lives. So fire everybody,

1:31:31

Christopher Williams, everybody's track

1:31:35

for that, because I ain't gonna live. That is

1:31:38

just so fire, even though well

1:31:41

it changed people a lot. Juice was Juice changed

1:31:45

my life? I was so

1:31:50

changed my life good we've seen um

1:31:54

It was like I probably I'm really getting to see poc how

1:31:56

we wanted to don't count and oh

1:32:00

but New Jack City that

1:32:03

should change like that should change everybody.

1:32:05

Every crackhead was called pooky from him from

1:32:08

nap point on to this day. If your lips as Chris,

1:32:12

it made that movie made a lot of stars and

1:32:15

made a lot of stars and made the people

1:32:17

that was on the soundtrack stars. Just

1:32:19

the way they was dressing was so like from

1:32:22

here New Jack City all day.

1:32:24

They should do that movie over them. I want to be Keisha.

1:32:27

You could Capital

1:32:30

Punishment or yeah baby, Capital

1:32:37

punishment and I'm on your baby, but Capital

1:32:40

Partner. Do you know what it was like the person niggas heard

1:32:43

fucking Capital Punishment. That

1:32:46

was the first time people heard by niggas could not But

1:32:48

I remember being the Bronx like, what up,

1:32:51

I'm gonna just go the new radeo right now, my button

1:32:54

is about to be fucking broke like it was. It

1:32:56

was so dope like this that you're saying on

1:32:58

there. Yeah baby was when he evolved

1:33:00

and he started to make his songs and

1:33:02

he knew like the way you needed for the clubs and for

1:33:04

the radio. I feel like Capital Punishment was

1:33:07

just I thought every artist that's really a

1:33:09

rapper, rapper, their first album is

1:33:11

always the rhyme that they was running around tearing

1:33:13

up the streets with, like running down on they're just wrapping

1:33:16

and I got people's attention. Every album is

1:33:18

their first album, always composed

1:33:21

of those records. That's why

1:33:23

sometimes after the sucon want to be getting kind of way because now they

1:33:25

got money. Now. Capital Punishment

1:33:27

remind me of food

1:33:29

Budgets. One was

1:33:32

the first nigg that showed me you got

1:33:34

a food budget when you booked the studio. I

1:33:37

went to the studio. He had five pieces.

1:33:39

I was like, I

1:33:46

went there. He was like, and I was like, wait a minute.

1:33:49

He was like so free. I was

1:33:51

like, it's not really

1:33:53

free. It's not really you don't know. You don't know

1:33:55

that too later that you

1:33:58

don't know what you don't want cool like

1:34:01

you U

1:34:07

l A or Miami. Let's be careful now you're

1:34:09

Miami m

1:34:14

l A. I feel

1:34:17

like you just did that class. When

1:34:20

I come to Miami, I come to Miami to work. This

1:34:23

is where I create, Like I got lock in with Cool

1:34:25

and Dre. Almost every hit i'ven't made in

1:34:27

my life I made here whom conceded

1:34:30

to lean back all the way up. They were. So

1:34:33

when I come to Miami, it's to get away from

1:34:35

everybody because I wasn't gonna bother me here. But

1:34:37

it's worked. When I'm in l A. It's like

1:34:40

most of the time I will go to l A is because I'm having

1:34:42

fun. Even if I'm working, it's for fun. Ok

1:34:44

so um, And it's just different.

1:34:47

I feel like a lot of Miami I could relate to Miami

1:34:49

LA. It's so different. From how

1:34:51

we grew up in New York and I just think

1:34:54

it's dope. Like they talk different, different accents,

1:34:56

different slang, just different everything. I'm

1:34:59

that type of person, like different ships. I'm gonna go to l

1:35:01

A tomorrow, um MTV

1:35:03

raps or video music Box. That

1:35:07

was a dub one that was not even a hard decision.

1:35:10

I want to know which way music box? Like

1:35:12

the fund are you talking about? That was

1:35:15

a dumb question. Like you see

1:35:17

Brown, I love that. Do

1:35:21

you see the documentary US Box? No,

1:35:24

it's one of the best you see and

1:35:29

Massive Hill. They got like three

1:35:32

documentaries on Showtime. All of them

1:35:34

is hip hop and all of them is fucking awesome.

1:35:36

But start with the Ralph McDaniels

1:35:38

Video Music Box. Tell me the video documentary.

1:35:42

Listen, And it's crazy because which

1:35:44

lomentary is better TV or video

1:35:47

music? But no,

1:35:49

there's no, no, no, there's no documentary. But what

1:35:51

the video music document because and you know what's

1:35:53

so dope about it is you get to see Nas

1:35:57

like go back into Fami

1:35:59

Nas his interviewing everybody. It's his

1:36:01

documentary. So he's interviewing for Ralph like

1:36:04

this ship and like it's like Ralph is

1:36:06

the big only and nas is a little only. It was

1:36:08

just like Papa birthday

1:36:10

party and Ralph hosted.

1:36:12

It was like party

1:36:16

eight early nineties party. I

1:36:18

had Milk performed Give

1:36:22

Chill Fresh

1:36:25

before Black

1:36:28

Moon, before Grandpool

1:36:31

Ball. You're getting a lot of money because

1:36:36

came through. I tell you, Pap was

1:36:39

I think he helped. Hell, he'll tell you because

1:36:41

he belong in the nineties anyway, like he belonged.

1:36:44

I give him eight nine

1:36:50

nine, going the latest, next

1:36:52

three getting out of there, like but he um,

1:36:55

it was so dope. He has so much fun.

1:36:57

I'm sorry for anybody that I might have to

1:37:00

name that perform, but it was a really

1:37:02

dope party now in any category where

1:37:04

you want yell, oh,

1:37:08

yeah, he's a Gemini.

1:37:10

I'm just being buy I

1:37:14

understand you. Crazy motherfuck's always

1:37:21

tries to say that same ship too. But

1:37:24

if you knew I was crazy? Do

1:37:27

you know all the ship that you said about me, all this

1:37:29

bad ship and y'all done as

1:37:31

vound to be for the rest of the your Like what

1:37:33

the oh

1:37:41

you really? Damn? I gotta look at myself in

1:37:43

the mirror now, yeah right,

1:37:47

this is bad when that crazy ship to you, Like,

1:37:49

what does that say about you. This

1:37:52

is what you want to be with me, Frank I

1:37:54

do Kendrick go cold?

1:37:58

Cole you want

1:38:00

to explain or you have told

1:38:05

soon, but I'm gonna

1:38:07

just go cold like this one females

1:38:10

is gonna dold your cat

1:38:13

or dream Dog hm

1:38:17

hm I

1:38:19

dreamed Dog really nice

1:38:21

New York City. She's

1:38:25

just a nice person. I

1:38:28

had my battle Rap event the other day and

1:38:31

it's the doors opened at the Dream The

1:38:34

show started at five. It was supposed

1:38:37

to be over eight. I think it was like ten. She

1:38:40

I invited her she rs VP. She came

1:38:42

before the doors even open because

1:38:45

she had another event to go to. I guess she didn't

1:38:47

know about it prior to the time, but she just wanted to show

1:38:50

face, like I really wanted to come and support you. So she

1:38:52

came before the ship even started, popped

1:38:54

in and like that's like some real show, Like she didn't have to

1:38:56

do that. She I couldn't make it one of my event whatever.

1:38:59

Like I I look at you like

1:39:01

that like differently. It makes me look at the

1:39:03

person like damn. Like she she really wanted

1:39:05

to prove because she could have. I

1:39:07

don't think I would have even thought about it. Like that, but you could

1:39:09

send a message like yo, I couldn't make it. Something came up,

1:39:11

people think you're bullshit. She went out

1:39:13

a her way to come there, even though she

1:39:16

hadn't even started yet, just to show face, like listen,

1:39:18

if I could support

1:39:20

you, if I could be here, I would be here, but I'm not. I could

1:39:22

come now. I know I didn't start yet, but I'm here.

1:39:24

So I just wanted to say now that

1:39:26

that that was just

1:39:31

doing with a lot of times you don't get that

1:39:33

from from girls that's just starting become

1:39:35

they'd be so scared to feel like they sucking

1:39:37

a dead or they like so, they don't

1:39:40

want to show love, they don't want to be tool like. So just

1:39:43

off of that a law I fun. Yeah,

1:39:47

I don't think she's a rapper, let's be clear with that.

1:39:49

I don't they be put on a wrapper category.

1:39:51

I don't think she's a rapper, but she makes stop records

1:39:53

and I think she's dope. I'll

1:39:56

go with told the

1:39:59

so or XXL. The

1:40:03

source XXL

1:40:06

was more like the Hollywood type version,

1:40:08

like it was like the batter version that

1:40:11

the star stated, but when the source was

1:40:13

what the source was the original nothing

1:40:15

was with the source. When Bezino

1:40:17

was at his peak with that source, niggas

1:40:21

was losing their lives in the studio. When you was

1:40:24

recording your album, all you was thinking about was

1:40:26

five, that's all

1:40:28

you want? How

1:40:30

many mics was gonna get? Trying

1:40:32

to get the cover of so Its like I remember trying to get the

1:40:34

cover of Double XL. But that covered that source.

1:40:37

That's that's that ship missing

1:40:40

so and I think a lot of times when a certain should

1:40:42

come out and they create this thing like they're

1:40:45

bigger, they're the ones that still around, people

1:40:47

tend to be like, forget what it

1:40:49

was. The source of that they had, the source

1:40:51

of awards, The source of

1:40:53

Wars was fire. So

1:40:56

you want to get anybody that was there

1:40:59

was something they're gonna be. They're

1:41:02

gonna be the Wars

1:41:05

I won like four. I think I got like four. Thank

1:41:07

you for for making me feel better about I

1:41:10

didn't think about it like that, but I

1:41:13

think that was pretty a big deal. It

1:41:15

was a big deal. Backwards,

1:41:19

I might maybe one might be for conceited,

1:41:21

but the source of was like they had a fucking awar

1:41:23

show. Outside of the bullshit that

1:41:25

it was like that ship was the pinnacle

1:41:28

that's what That's what Knights said,

1:41:30

if you don't want it. That was

1:41:33

like a lot of happened.

1:41:36

The source of awards was a moment. It

1:41:38

was that I would love to see a documentary and the sources.

1:41:40

They're trying to do it, but I don't think ben Zino and they

1:41:42

made should get a long enough to I tried to

1:41:44

step to them with it's

1:41:47

not that it's not that they can't get it long enough. They're

1:41:49

not offering them enough money. No, they

1:41:52

can't get a long enough. They

1:41:54

can't get long enough because they separated.

1:41:56

Now them both, I just

1:41:58

feel like she might doing it. Everybody

1:42:03

get along potentially, let's not getting

1:42:05

along toler right,

1:42:11

that's the right because

1:42:15

we met within and David they was they was

1:42:18

listening. But yeah, but that's when it was together, right,

1:42:20

Okay, So moving on because we're gonna get out of here, get

1:42:23

French or ross your

1:42:26

first shot. How much has I got a drink? No, it's

1:42:29

just just a tiny, tiny bit. It's a tiny

1:42:31

bit. It's a tiny bit. Yeah, she's

1:42:33

taking a Nah,

1:42:38

I'm gonna be honest. I equally love them.

1:42:40

Vote for a lot that's so far solo

1:42:44

cis slot slot I'm

1:42:49

surprised. Nah, that's just was

1:42:52

gonna be the first one of them.

1:42:55

I know both of them from before any

1:42:57

of us was big. That's finally

1:43:00

I have serious of me and bors when nobody knew

1:43:02

who works was serious of me, Like French

1:43:04

used to do karaoke in my house and the projects

1:43:06

with me. Literally

1:43:09

like boys, I met me smoking

1:43:11

weed in the projects in my staircase, in the back staircase.

1:43:15

I don't even know if you remember that. Sh like them

1:43:19

niggas, I could call either one of them right now.

1:43:21

I need a right gad to do the video. I

1:43:23

need like and it's gonna happen like I can't.

1:43:26

It's very hard. Two of the two

1:43:29

people. There's a couple on the industry because no niggas

1:43:31

get up and they start fucking acting stupid,

1:43:33

like y'all, I snacked the shot off. This

1:43:39

holds on all right, But this one, I don't know where you're

1:43:41

gonna go with this one because you big

1:43:43

these both. Oh gosh, Paple

1:43:46

Joe, No, No,

1:43:48

you're not sorry the

1:43:55

mob deep or m O P. It's

1:44:03

another shot man, it's

1:44:06

not. You don't fucking know that. It's

1:44:10

fucking bad, Like my tolerance is very

1:44:12

like Jess got over Parole. Okay,

1:44:15

so let me spling right, So

1:44:21

first of all, and what'll he changed

1:44:24

my life? It changed

1:44:26

my life physically

1:44:29

took my life and changed it from what it was to something

1:44:31

else with one record, one feature, with trusting,

1:44:34

trusted in my craft to be on their record.

1:44:36

They didn't know me from nothing, the only record I had had.

1:44:39

I think it had a lot to do with Punt when they found

1:44:41

out, like, oh it was the girl that was on punts album.

1:44:43

I definitely think that. But and

1:44:45

please give yourself problem for your drive to get

1:44:47

on that record as well. I wasn't playing. And let's be

1:44:50

clear, you killed that if you ain't kill

1:44:52

it, because if you go after I

1:44:55

told you the years that I lived in

1:44:58

Queens, right, So then you came se me

1:45:00

and told me they

1:45:06

lived. I saw them like I

1:45:08

saw them like becoming what they was

1:45:10

like Like I remember one time, quick

1:45:13

story, this kid, I was in the Bronx. Remember

1:45:15

I told you I living in Queens, so I should be back and forth.

1:45:18

That was really the cute Queens and the Bronx.

1:45:20

That's I'm in

1:45:23

the Bronx. This particular weekends, Guy's

1:45:25

trying to rap with me. You

1:45:27

know you mean wrap like,

1:45:32

but he don't know that. On the weekdays when I'm in

1:45:34

school, I live in a story. Ever we're

1:45:36

going back for I'm killing this nigga. The nigga

1:45:38

goes to me, surety

1:45:41

don't find you better, act like you win it frightened

1:45:43

like you never tit it, pitch amitt it. I said,

1:45:45

you fuck him because

1:45:48

marm T was back then. I

1:45:57

like y'all, so it was so embarrassing. I

1:46:00

would have been from Queens Like at that time.

1:46:02

I wouldn't know, like you got to take a shot for that

1:46:10

farmers dream. That

1:46:13

is crazy. But that is crazy

1:46:15

because I would go back home to the Bronx

1:46:17

on the weekends and I'm with to school and say

1:46:19

when my mom on the week days, story

1:46:22

is right next to the Queen's but dad just came out with him.

1:46:25

I don't even know how this nigga knew that ship because that

1:46:27

ship was like cracking it all our

1:46:30

house party. So yeah, I can't

1:46:32

this one. I think you're gonna it's probably going. I'm not

1:46:35

sure if it's easy for you or not, because you

1:46:37

New York City just like me. The

1:46:39

locks are dip set locks

1:46:42

and I love I

1:46:45

used to go to Gym's house on Sundays and have

1:46:47

dinner. He wasn't even there with his mother. Loved

1:46:49

them. I probably just talked to els

1:46:52

mom the other day. Love them.

1:46:54

But the locks, Once again, I was

1:46:56

older. I kind of came out

1:46:59

around the same time as so I got to see them

1:47:01

to it. The

1:47:03

locks, they made you

1:47:05

want to rap. They

1:47:07

dum DMX, sucking

1:47:11

hole big everybody

1:47:13

else at that that little pit mace. They

1:47:15

made me want to rap and be nice.

1:47:20

Fire caress

1:47:22

won to cool g rap that's

1:47:30

gonna be that a good I'm

1:47:33

gonna go ahead, like load my cell phone up

1:47:36

from the motherfucking Bronz carrass.

1:47:38

Okay, okay, all right, this is the very

1:47:41

last question. If

1:47:43

g rappers on the Punt's favorite rappers was

1:47:46

gonna be Now I'm from the

1:47:48

Bronx. What was you talking about? I got

1:47:50

a repasent for something I never

1:47:54

was like rap. I have to go through the hood.

1:47:56

I still pop out cares

1:47:58

what just dropped the new albums? He

1:48:01

told me somebody, Yeah, somebody

1:48:03

told me to come to his show. Was like, I

1:48:06

tell him to call me. If he called me, it

1:48:10

will fucking smoke somebody. I

1:48:14

watched him on that versus. I was like, who

1:48:16

do you roll with this? When

1:48:19

when he screamed it rocks in and said

1:48:21

it straight. But why would you say that we're

1:48:24

gonna talk about your verses? That

1:48:27

was he never said that. He

1:48:32

look at the job, was like, we're

1:48:34

doing this right. Last

1:48:37

one is the last one? Last one? Loyalty

1:48:41

or respect? You

1:48:44

see? Yeah,

1:48:47

I mean if you loyal to me, people

1:48:50

could respect you, but I'll be loyal to you. They

1:48:53

could respect you like I respect we do. I respect

1:48:55

how you carry yourself, but my loyalty is

1:48:57

over here. Person that with my loyalty

1:48:59

is the motherfucker's loyal to

1:49:01

you. Y'all can get into a fucking argument

1:49:04

like a fight if you want to kill you, But if they lower

1:49:06

you, they ain't never gonna funk with your ops when you gotta stop

1:49:08

speaking, they ain't never gonna like because

1:49:11

they're loyal to you. I don't funk with you. Yeah,

1:49:13

we disrespecting each other. They got crazy, but

1:49:15

that be the case. Maybe I don't even like your ass,

1:49:18

but I'm moll you to you

1:49:20

so so, but I'm a chill. I

1:49:23

respect respect your didn't

1:49:25

still do You're sitting there. Sometimes you're like, it's like,

1:49:27

no, fucking crack his sucking egg. Why does

1:49:29

he playing with me? Because

1:49:31

they just don't loyal to you, do

1:49:34

you respect you, but they're not scared of you or they're

1:49:36

willing to deal the consequences. So yeah,

1:49:39

I'm gonna take a shot to that little

1:49:42

Oh yeah, you didn't have to put I'm

1:49:44

talking about. I

1:49:51

know you'll think, likely promise

1:49:53

you I'm snacked, But

1:49:56

I want to tell you something that I know you don't know,

1:49:58

and I know I'm probably never

1:50:01

gonna you gotta finish. You gotta take your shot though,

1:50:04

because you know we gotta be even here.

1:50:06

Um, I'm gonna tell you something that I know you don't

1:50:09

know, but I don't

1:50:11

know what in the world. No, And I'm

1:50:13

probably not gonna be popular

1:50:15

for this. What what this? This

1:50:18

person? Me

1:50:20

and Foxy's are cool. We're cool, right,

1:50:25

you know, you know we have bang bang together. Whenever

1:50:29

we have an argument. She and

1:50:31

this is something I know you don't know. She

1:50:34

always brings you up in the most respectful

1:50:36

way and goes That's

1:50:40

the one thing I can tell you is Joe

1:50:43

is always buying me side by

1:50:48

the way She's coming at me and she's bigging

1:50:51

y'all up, but she's disrespecting

1:50:54

me. It's something

1:50:56

will happen and I won't agree with that, but like what wait

1:50:59

with me? And

1:51:01

then she'll bring this up to me and I'm sure

1:51:03

she's never gonna talk to me again for bringing this up. But

1:51:06

I mean, I just gotta be honest. And

1:51:09

I know you don't know that that's that's that's

1:51:11

something that she admired you about. Um

1:51:14

no, I didn't know, but I'm gonna say

1:51:17

something. And it's probably because I'm fucking high and

1:51:19

I said I wasn't gonna get high and dropped for hey, So

1:51:27

she just likes me. I don't

1:51:30

know why. I really don't know why. And

1:51:32

I thought she not dislikes

1:51:34

you like she dislikes just like

1:51:36

I think she doesn't. I think I

1:51:39

swear to Should I let you talk first?

1:51:42

Yeah? Okay?

1:51:45

Um, we have like

1:51:47

runnings back before I before I went away.

1:51:51

But stupid ship, stupid rap

1:51:53

ship me like I told you, I come from my battle

1:51:55

world was like yo, any of these bitches

1:51:57

like what I wanna do? I thought of it like a sport. It was like under

1:52:00

me. I didn't will lost in the industry, like that

1:52:02

was disrespect If somebody say, don't want to battle you

1:52:04

over that, that was a disrespectful thing, you think,

1:52:07

whatever the case may be. So you know, I was young,

1:52:09

I was different. But when we was we were both locked

1:52:11

up. I don't know if people noticed we were both on right and

1:52:13

still and at the same time. No, I did not realize

1:52:16

that we were both on on right sil and at the same

1:52:18

time. And she

1:52:22

was in one area, I was in another area.

1:52:24

When I came to we was actually both in the same

1:52:26

areas around the same time, but they had

1:52:28

us in protective custody against I will not

1:52:30

because you chose to be like appointed

1:52:33

to you know, um protective custody

1:52:36

and so like you know, we were going to visits

1:52:38

and like you know, we was in the same area for twenty three

1:52:41

hours or whatever, and then then she got moved.

1:52:44

But um, we had kids.

1:52:46

We had a moment like while while we was in there,

1:52:48

Like it wasn't directly, but it was

1:52:50

like, um messages that

1:52:53

was sent Like dude, like you know that they have the reverend

1:52:55

jail that goes everyway, so when you locked and your kid come

1:52:57

out, they come to your door for ministering

1:53:00

whatever, and I thought we were like in

1:53:02

a different space. And then I came

1:53:04

home and it was just like the

1:53:07

same type of crazy at tension from before I went

1:53:09

away, and I was just so confused, like I

1:53:13

thought we were somewhere else, especially like

1:53:16

both of y'all being mothers and coming home from

1:53:19

from mom. Yeah I mean now,

1:53:22

but yeah, it was. It was just weird. And

1:53:24

then we had very like I

1:53:27

know what was going on in there, like you asked,

1:53:29

anybody want me to jail? Like I give it up, like it

1:53:34

was I'm just I'm just me. But

1:53:37

I'd be sitting there like and I never I've never

1:53:39

told me stories of like what was really going

1:53:41

on on the other side that people

1:53:43

wouldn't be too problems. It's just to be like, yo,

1:53:46

what's the problem. I just didn't understand

1:53:49

and then obviously stopped

1:53:52

caring if I ever cared before. But I

1:53:54

remember one time something had happened

1:53:57

with us. I guess she might have called

1:53:59

you and he was like,

1:54:01

like I funk with rep like that. That's

1:54:03

like she was like mad at you. I mean you went there

1:54:06

and I was like, you got boxing

1:54:08

matomy? What did you deal? And

1:54:10

I'm like I don't fucking know, Like I'm

1:54:12

at a point in my life right now, like it's certain

1:54:15

certain beats that I had that I don't know if fucking

1:54:17

jail gave me ptsd Orf, I

1:54:19

know definitely with my memory, Like certain

1:54:22

ship I just don't remember. But I just don't

1:54:24

care about ship no more. Like so when

1:54:26

people be saying a little shit about me or throwing

1:54:28

shots and should just be weird to me because

1:54:31

I just don't have that energy towards people.

1:54:33

Like when I say some ship or if it's wrapped, what's

1:54:35

whatever, then that's cool. But like in real life

1:54:39

and real life, I'll be telling like I gotta I

1:54:41

got my son's grown, I got my little baby,

1:54:43

I got my husband at home, I got all

1:54:46

these different businesses that I'm trying to do. And

1:54:48

I think a lot of a lot of the tension that

1:54:50

women, especially women wrappers in the industry

1:54:53

and women not even just wrappers, females