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Big news today, Candace Owens
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has announced that she
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became Catholic. It
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happens last week. I was
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talking to her husband, George
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Farmer today when the news
0:15
came out and it
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happened in London at the oratory, Father
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Julian. And here's the tweet right here.
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Recently, I made the decision to go home. This
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is, of course, so much
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more. There is, of course, so
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much more that went into this decision and that I
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plan to share in the future. But
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for now, praise be to God
0:36
for his gentle but relentless guiding
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of my heart toward truth. So
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do not fear, for I am with you. Do
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not be dismayed, for I am your God. I
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will strengthen you and help you. I
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will uphold you with my righteous hand. I
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do not fear Christ is
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King. Blessed
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be God. Welcome to the Catholic Church, Candace
0:58
Owens, who kind of been hinting
1:00
along the way here. I interviewed
1:02
George Farmer. It was an excellent interview. I'd encourage
1:04
you to go back and check it out. He
1:06
talks a lot about his marriage to Candace Owens.
1:08
We will put that link up
1:10
here in your top right corner of
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the YouTube screen there. And
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this is, I think, signaling a movement of more and
1:18
more people being open to God
1:22
faith, but in particular, Jesus
1:25
Christ, Christ is King. And what
1:27
does it mean to be a
1:30
disciple of Jesus Christ? More
1:33
and more people are looking to
1:35
the Catholic Church. Why? Well, there's a
1:37
lot of confusion in the Catholic Church, a
1:40
lot of scandals, but there's also
1:42
something permanent. There's something perennial, something
1:45
going back 2000 years. People
1:48
are confused about what is matrimony? In
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Catholicism, matrimony is
1:53
a sacrament. What
1:55
is human life? Is abortion wrong? Is
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euthanasia wrong? The Catholic Church has very
2:00
clear teaching on
2:02
all these topics. Candace
2:06
Owens is married to George Farmer,
2:09
very vocal, very intelligent, Catholic.
2:11
He went to Oxford. He's a very successful
2:14
businessman. I consider him a friend and
2:16
I think this is the beginning
2:19
of an impressive arc for
2:23
Candace Owens. She's
2:25
baptized. She's received her first communion
2:27
and I'd like to do some
2:29
Q&A from y'all and get
2:32
your perspective on her
2:35
conversion. Do you see this happening? I think
2:38
we did. There's been enough hints. Christ
2:40
is king and of course
2:42
her influence by her husband
2:44
all that. So what do y'all think? Is
2:47
this a game-changer? And
2:50
you know I'll
2:52
just throw this out. Oh by the way, I
2:54
will be doing a collaboration with
2:57
Candace. Don't have dates, don't
2:59
have details, but God willing
3:02
that will happen. So I look
3:04
forward to announcing that. So stay
3:07
tuned and make sure you're subscribed.
3:11
Alright here is Kakashi
3:14
just waiting for this. Welcome
3:16
Candace. God bless. Love
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it. Fantastic. Beautiful
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news of a beautiful soul. Praise
3:24
God. Candace
3:28
Owens is becoming a member of
3:30
anti-Pope Francis group. I
3:33
don't know how you made that conclusion. Interesting
3:35
perspective. Why don't we give her a chance
3:38
to be Catholic for maybe
3:40
a month before we start making
3:42
judgments. Colleen
3:45
says I'm so excited for her. Just
3:47
heard the news. Huge fan. Love
3:50
it. Suzy says excited for Candace.
3:56
W. Amen. Let's Go. Let's Go. Praise.
4:00
Jesus. So happy for Candice!
4:02
Yes, Praise Jesus Christ is
4:04
King! Here's a good one.
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Yes! and Russell Brand, Praise The
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Rosary. Another interesting development.
4:12
Where is all this going? Praise
4:18
Jesus Welcome to the family! Amazing!
4:21
Come on, ban recognize the king. Praise
4:25
God a Man! Praise The Lord
4:27
Degrassi at the Camp All these
4:29
comments Are you slowing in beautiful?
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Welcome Candace Welcome Candace. I.
4:34
Also, return home to the Catholic church
4:36
a few weeks ago. Fantastic news. Praise.
4:39
The Lord. God
4:41
bless you Candace! Amazing news,
4:43
Well done. I'm
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crying of a motion My
4:48
dear Candice, Just waiting for
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this. That's great news.
4:52
Glory be to God That's
4:54
great. I
4:57
think Rose Marshall I must be my my
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daughter Heroes. She's. Here on the
5:01
chat. My
5:03
husband converted two months ago. a lot.
5:05
Candace Welcome home! Half or on
5:08
your show. God willing I will. We will
5:10
collaborate. I can't wait to talk with Candace!
5:13
Gory. Be to God I'm so happy
5:16
for you Candice, Praise Christ. Welcome.
5:18
Home Welcome Home Sister pray
5:20
the rosary, Ah,
5:23
here's a super cat from Josh. Could.
5:26
Be that God is saving these people. To.
5:29
Use them and spread the truth
5:31
before all hell is let could
5:33
be. Could.
5:35
Be. Ah
5:38
Mary, I could see you're coming
5:40
along bit by bit. Her hunger
5:43
and relentless pursuit of truth has
5:45
led her here. I knew this
5:47
was going to happen. Yea, Welcome
5:49
Candace! It's a beautiful rich. Faith
5:52
is Jordan Peterson next assed: Damien.
5:54
Welcome home is Tucker Carlson
5:57
next ass Matty. Welcome.
5:59
to the faith Candace. Brian
6:01
Holdsworth has some great points about the new
6:03
celebrity Catholics and his latest. Interesting.
6:07
I love Candace. Welcome home, Candace. Welcome
6:10
to the fullness of faith. Welcome home.
6:12
Fabulous news. Everybody is excited
6:16
and I'm excited too. You
6:18
know, when I interviewed George
6:20
Farmer later last year, again,
6:22
please check out my channel, Dr. Taylor Marshall
6:25
podcast. It's a, I think it's
6:27
at least a two hour interview. It's in two parts
6:29
with George Farmer. He and
6:31
I discussed the change in
6:33
the influencer space 2016.
6:37
This is sort of
6:39
the rise of the Trump media era.
6:42
This is when a lot of people
6:44
started doing consuming and producing independent
6:49
media, independent journalism. So you no
6:51
longer had to go to Fox
6:53
news. You, you no longer
6:55
had to go to CNN. You
6:57
could turn on YouTube or was
7:00
rumble around back then. I can't remember. You
7:02
could turn on podcasts, iTunes and
7:04
you could consume and begin listening
7:07
to new voices with new
7:09
perspectives that hadn't been vetted
7:12
by the big media mobiles
7:15
that started a whole new thing in 2016. And
7:18
when you saw the rise of Jordan
7:20
Peterson, Joe Rogan got big. You know, I
7:22
remember listening to Joe Rogan as a jiu-jitsu
7:24
guy, just cause I liked to jitsu. And
7:27
then all of a sudden it seemed like in, by
7:29
2020, like soccer moms
7:31
were listening to Joe Rogan.
7:33
So an explosion of influencers
7:36
and over time, that influencer space
7:38
has grown and has become more
7:40
and more conservative.
7:42
It's veering right. Look
7:45
at, may not be all
7:47
the way Catholic, right? Like
7:50
Biblical Catholic Traditional Catholicism, but
7:52
it has veered, right? Even
7:54
I would say Joe Rogan
7:56
has veered right over time.
7:58
Russell Brand. During right.
8:02
More. More conservative positions pray
8:04
the rosary keeping meant. Jordan.
8:07
Peterson. More and more of
8:09
a kind of a Catholic message his wife
8:11
became Catholic. At. Easter. So there's
8:14
been this growth and I
8:16
think George Farmer has. A
8:18
good. A. Good sense
8:21
to this. He understands the pulse of it
8:23
that are now. Moving towards
8:25
a new moment. I
8:27
think a lot of it will depend on who was
8:29
elected president. This. Year.
8:32
What happens politically? But I
8:34
think we're starting to see
8:36
that being. Just Pro
8:39
America. Pro. Democracy
8:41
Pro Conservative. Pro.
8:43
Republican isn't enough. I
8:46
think there's a lot of disillusionment
8:48
with Trump right now. I. Know if
8:50
I say that people will come out, start throwing
8:52
stones. I don't want to get in. there are
8:54
now, but I think there is a little bit.
8:56
There's definitely a lot of disillusionment with. The.
8:58
Republican Party On with
9:00
our leadership and with
9:03
what we want. Society.
9:05
To. Be do we want it to be
9:07
a or leaning democracy or do we
9:09
want something more robust and this has
9:12
to do with. The. Persecution we
9:14
seen over at Daily Wire over
9:16
a crisis king. This
9:19
has to do with our discussion
9:21
over America. These are the Israel,
9:23
these of he Ukraine, Visa the
9:26
Latin America. How does
9:28
all had? All these fit together and.
9:31
Is the constitution enough? Or do
9:33
we need scripture? Do.
9:35
We need Christianity. Can
9:39
we actually infuse and
9:41
inject a Christian ethos
9:44
into our culture? Get.
9:49
Other voices as well. You know you see somebody
9:51
I don't approve them that Not a huge fan
9:53
but Andrew Tate. Becoming. Muslim.
9:55
Is he consistently Muslim? I don't know. I
9:58
don't know, but you see, So even
10:00
in those kind of voices. A.
10:04
Interest in Religiosity although I
10:06
totally disagree with. Islam
10:09
False Religion Mohammed False Prophet.
10:14
And then join our talking about
10:16
this earlier. The Evan Gelato space seems
10:18
to be a little bit more fractured.
10:20
It's you know, you kind of saw
10:23
in the nineteen nineties, in the two
10:25
thousand, the demise of the all Denominations
10:27
Lutheran. A piss good palin. Presbyterian.
10:32
Baptist Nice might. but in the
10:34
back to start a rebranding themselves,
10:36
not as First Baptist. Podunk.
10:39
Taxes but as something like.
10:42
You. Know Water Spring
10:44
Community Fellowship. right?
10:46
Rebrand themselves to not be denominational. that
10:48
can a gay way to this mega
10:51
church. Nondenominational.
10:55
Phenomenon. But now we're
10:57
starting to see. Some fractures in
10:59
that, what does that mean And I
11:01
think the cove Id. Twenty. Twenty
11:04
Twenty Twenty One Twenty Twenty Two
11:06
Where people weren't going to church
11:08
they started live stream is are
11:10
watching it on Tv Now The
11:12
question is what I'm watching This
11:15
amazing preacher with these messages? And
11:17
that's what I'm getting. From. This church.
11:20
Why? Would I even drive? Park in
11:22
the parking lot? Go inside. Why?
11:24
Not just consume and on line.
11:27
The Catholics and the Orthodox have
11:29
an answer which is. Worship
11:31
as a sacrifice. Worshippers
11:33
The Eucharist worship is.
11:37
The son of God. Body. Boards
11:39
on Divinity offering himself.
11:41
To. The father. In.
11:43
The Unity The Holy Spirit. So.
11:46
Worship is the sacrifice of the mass.
11:48
It's the eucharist. Exact revised and we
11:50
go to church. Not simple in here.
11:52
A sermon. Or a good message
11:54
or bible study. We go to church, to
11:58
enter into the mystery of Christ once
12:00
and for all oblation sacrifice to the
12:03
Father. The worship of Christ to the
12:05
Father is perfect. Our worship is horrible.
12:09
Our worship is human. Our worship is sinful. Our
12:12
worship is yanking.
12:15
But by bringing whatever brokenness we have
12:17
and uniting it to Jesus on the
12:19
cross in the Eucharistic sacrifice of the
12:21
mass, we have true
12:23
worship. And you can't watch
12:26
that on a TV. You
12:28
can't stream that. You have to
12:30
be there. That
12:35
right there keeps people coming to church.
12:38
It gives meaning
12:41
to worship where you don't have
12:43
to constantly update the music, update
12:46
the worship, update the
12:49
special effects of it. Whether
12:51
the holy sacrifice of the mass happens in a
12:53
barn, a basilica, a
12:56
cathedral, or anywhere in
13:01
between, no matter how humble or
13:03
how grand, it's still
13:06
the same worship.
13:09
It's based in a sacramental,
13:12
metaphysical, ontological reality
13:14
that we can't see with our
13:16
eyes, but we perceive it
13:18
by faith that the
13:21
little host of bread, insignificant,
13:24
not impressive in a
13:27
chalice of wine, is
13:31
transformed, transubstantiated. A
13:34
metaphysical miracle
13:36
happens so that pieces
13:39
of flat bread
13:41
become the body of the
13:43
living and true good of
13:46
the Son, Jesus Christ. And
13:48
that the wine becomes the blood of redemption,
13:50
the blood of atonement. And
13:53
that this body and blood,
13:55
soul and divinity of Jesus Christ
13:58
is offered to the
14:00
Father. It's the one and same offering of Jesus
14:02
on the cross. It's not a repetition. It's
14:05
a union with that. Through
14:07
the Holy Spirit, we enter
14:09
into that reality. There's
14:11
a lot of voices in Catholicism who are
14:13
saying, we need to get away from that
14:16
idea. It's too tridentine. It's
14:18
too medieval. We need to make
14:21
worship more communal, more
14:23
holding hands, more
14:26
about music and performance
14:28
and rhetorical sermons. But
14:33
at the core of Catholic worship is
14:35
the Mass. And I
14:38
think as in the post-COVID
14:40
era with Protestants
14:42
looking for meaning and for what
14:44
is worship and Catholics in the
14:46
post-Nobus Ordo era, more
14:49
and more people are going to look for traditional
14:51
Catholicism. I'll tell you right now, Candace
14:54
Owens received a traditional
14:56
Roman baptism, the old
14:58
school. Old
15:01
school. As you know, George Farmer, he's traditional. He goes
15:03
to Latin Mass. This
15:05
is going to be the
15:08
true, real, historic, ancient form of
15:10
Catholicism that is going to be
15:13
perennial. It is going to endure.
15:15
And everything that is gimmicky and
15:19
rooted in our
15:21
modern culture, contemporary culture,
15:25
contemporary is always changing. You
15:27
know, the contemporary songs that you hear
15:29
at contemporary Novus Ordo masses are straight-up
15:31
1970s, 1980s. They are no longer contemporary
15:33
for 2024, but there are
15:38
clergy, priests and nuns who are pushing it. The
15:40
youth will love it. The youth will love it.
15:43
It's so contemporary and it sounds like Bob Dylan.
15:45
It sounds like Peter, Paul, and Mary. So
15:48
I think this is a great moment. Welcome
15:50
home to Candace Owens. She gets it. I
15:53
think politically she's been developing. I think
15:56
obviously in her faith and
15:59
in her marriage with George, she is
16:01
starting to discover the beauty of motherhood,
16:04
the beauty of procreation, the
16:06
sacredness of life. She
16:09
is becoming much
16:12
deeper in her perspective.
16:14
It's not just about, you know,
16:17
she started off and she was talking about Brexit
16:19
and all these, these great things on it, but
16:21
now we're starting to see Candice
16:25
as a metaphysical thinker
16:29
as a mother who
16:32
also has a voice for the
16:34
culture. And now her voice is
16:37
going to be infused with sanctifying grace.
16:40
She is going to be receiving the
16:43
holy Eucharist at the holy sacrifice of
16:45
the mass. She's going to be raising
16:47
her children to
16:49
be Catholic Christians.
16:54
Her understanding of motherhood is going to
16:56
be formed by the blessed Virgin Mary,
16:58
by the Rosary. I think
17:00
this is going to be an amazing arc
17:02
and it's an invitation to everyone. I know
17:04
there's people watching right now who
17:06
probably aren't Catholic. I realize more and more
17:08
people watch the Dr. Taylor Marshall podcast. They're
17:11
not Catholic. I would like to
17:13
make an invitation to all
17:16
my friends to go
17:18
deeper in your faith and to look into
17:20
the seven sacraments, baptism,
17:23
confirmation, Eucharist,
17:26
penance, extreme unction, holy orders, and matrimony.
17:28
I put a tweet out this morning
17:30
that kind of went viral. You
17:33
know, one of the things that Martin Luther did and
17:35
John Calvin and the church of England, the
17:37
Lutherans, they said matrimony
17:39
is not a sacrament. And
17:42
what they did is they took marriage
17:45
away from the church, really
17:47
away from God, and they placed it
17:49
in the state. And
17:52
when you do that, the state begins to define
17:54
what marriage is and what do you get? You
17:56
get divorce. You redefine
17:58
marriage. Redefine Mail
18:01
you redefine female. And
18:04
you get the mess that we have now are:
18:06
No one even knows what Humanists, No one knows
18:08
what a. Boy. Is or a
18:10
girl. And what marriages? And
18:12
who can marry? Who is it To
18:14
people? Three people. Polyamory. A
18:17
boy And a boy. Or girl In a girl.
18:20
Three people who knows. That's because
18:22
you've taken matrimony and you d classified
18:24
as and you said it's nice argument.
18:28
Is. Now. Part. Of our
18:30
cultural arrangement and the state.
18:33
And guess what? It gets redefined.
18:35
You have to take matrimony. Say
18:37
it's a sacrament. He
18:39
was instituted by God in the
18:42
garden. It was elevated and hallowed
18:44
and sanctified by Jesus Christ with
18:46
his first miracle. Changing.
18:48
Of water into wine. At
18:51
the wedding at Cana. That.
18:53
Was his very first public miracle.
18:56
How did happen People came to
18:58
Jesus? Know. People.
19:00
Came to the Virgin Mary. Read
19:03
and John's gospel and they say hey when
19:05
I have any more wine. His
19:07
wedding. They go
19:09
to marry for the very first miracle. Does
19:11
marry what worked a miracle? Nope. He's not
19:14
the Sunnah got. To
19:16
the Mother of the son of God. And
19:19
she says do whatever he
19:21
tells you to do. That's.
19:25
What made us And that is what Marry
19:28
says to every single Christians ever baptized. Do
19:30
whatever Jesus tells you to do. The
19:33
very first miracle. The
19:35
public manifestation of Jesus Christ and a supernatural
19:37
powers marry says do it every day and
19:39
what are they What as you say he's
19:41
is. Fill up the parts, But.
19:44
Water them and then he
19:46
transforms water into wine. In.
19:49
Celebration. Of what.
19:52
Holy. Matrimony Marriage Culture
19:54
says that Christ Our dates
19:57
matrimony to the level of.
20:00
sacrament at the
20:02
wedding of Cana. Because matrimony
20:04
is an icon. It
20:06
is an image. It is a reflection of
20:09
Jesus Christ and
20:11
the church. The
20:14
church is the bride of Christ. Is
20:16
Jesus a polygamist? Does he have many
20:19
churches, many wives,
20:21
many brides? No.
20:23
And I would say, if you're
20:25
an evangelical, if you're a Protestant, think about that. There
20:28
is one true church. There is one true church in AD
20:30
33. There's one true church in AD 100. There is one
20:32
true church
20:35
in 1000, 1500, 2000, 2024. There's one church. It may
20:37
get messy. It may get complicated. Can
20:44
there be corruption in the church? Yes. Can there
20:46
be infiltration in the church? Yes. I wrote a whole
20:48
book about it. Check it out.
20:50
Infiltration. Get it at Amazon. Get
20:52
the audible. Yes,
20:54
there's bad stuff, but you don't get to
20:56
create a new bride. You
20:59
don't get to create a new wife
21:01
for Jesus. You stick with
21:04
the one bride of
21:06
Christ, the one church, and you
21:08
fight for her. So
21:12
marriage is important because it is a
21:14
reflection of this mystery between Jesus Christ,
21:16
the bridegroom, and the church
21:18
of Jesus Christ, the one holy Catholic
21:20
and apostolic church, going all the way
21:23
back unbroken to AD 33. And
21:25
you could even argue as the fulfillment
21:27
in the development of ancient Israel and
21:31
the chosen people of God, going back
21:33
to Abraham, but even going back to
21:35
Noah, even going back to repentant Adam
21:37
and Eve and their children, not all
21:39
of them who did follow the promises
21:41
of God. Great moment.
21:44
Candace Owens is
21:47
Catholic, very
21:49
happy for her, very happy for George
21:51
and their children. It's going to be
21:53
a new redemptive arc. And I can't,
21:55
I watched Candace Owens. I have for
21:57
years. I respect her. I think
21:59
she brings. Many. Great bought
22:01
point to not only the American
22:03
conversation, but the international conversations. And
22:06
I can't wait! To
22:08
see Catholic. Candace.
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