In this episode, we speak with Dr. Michael Dando, Assistant Professor of Communication, Arts, and Literature at St. Cloud State University. Dando is an award-winning author, artist, educator, and scholar with over twenty years of experience in the classroom. His research and pedagogy explores ways that teachers and students collaborate with communities to create collective, civically engaged democratic opportunities for social justice. We speak about the ways that Lillian Smith's work, specifically her thoughts on pedagogy, correspond to Dando's pedagogical approaches, on the role of art in society, and more.