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and welcome to another episode of

2:18

Do Go One. My name is

2:20

TheVonicky and as always I'm here

2:22

with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.

2:24

I'm Jess Perkins. I'm

2:26

Matt Stewart and just

2:28

thinking about being here with you

2:30

two, feeling so good every time Dave

2:32

goes, welcome or whatever. I forget what

2:34

he says, but I love it. That iconic thing

2:37

he says at the start. I just think how

2:39

good it is to be alive. That's what my

2:41

brain says. I don't always say it out loud,

2:43

but I always think it. I feel so good

2:46

to be alive. I'm asking it rhetorically. It is

2:48

great to be alive. Wow. I

2:51

have nothing to add. Nothing to add. Fantastic. Other than

2:53

I wish I was never born. Apart

2:56

from that. Apart from that, nothing. I mean, what

2:58

a great mindset to be in to explain the

3:00

show. Thank you. So hello,

3:02

it's Jess again. We

3:05

will say that at the start of every time we speak. Dave

3:07

here by the way. Sorry, I'm

3:09

going to put your mother on. Jess?

3:12

I'm your mother. Have

3:14

you been eating vegetables? You're mum's

3:16

stuff. Yeah, have you been eating vegetables?

3:19

Definitely not. How

3:21

this show works is one of the three of us

3:23

goes away, the research is a topic usually suggested to

3:26

us by our wonderful listeners. They

3:28

learn all about it. They absorb it. They

3:31

bathe in it and they come back. They tell

3:33

the other two about it who never interrupt and

3:36

who are very polite and kind to one another.

3:38

And we always get on to the topic with

3:40

a question. Now, Matt, it is your turn to

3:42

do a report. What is your

3:45

motherfucking question? Whoa. My question is,

3:48

who am I? I

3:50

love a who am I? I was born in

3:52

New York City in the year 1950. Okay,

3:55

1950, New York City. Okay, yes.

3:58

Donald Duck. I have sold. over

4:01

30 million records

4:03

worldwide. Musician 74.

4:07

My birth name, and you can

4:10

buzz in at any time. My birth name

4:12

is Hugh Craig III. That

4:16

was my buzz. That was a terrible buzz.

4:18

Sorry. It was unpleasant to listen

4:20

to, isn't it? It was even more unpleasant to do.

4:23

I can imagine. Your throat must feel awful. Yeah,

4:25

go on. Yeah, go on and answer.

4:27

Where was I? Oh, God. Hugh

4:29

Craig III. I

4:31

think that might be a man

4:33

known as Huey Lewis. Correct. Oh.

4:37

Which I know Matt has been very keen

4:39

to report on for a long time, and I am

4:41

so happy that day has finally come. Free

4:43

choice came up. I was actually after a

4:45

show during the comedy festival, talking to one

4:47

of our great Patreons, Sophie Waldron, and I

4:49

was saying, I was throwing out some facts

4:51

about, I don't know why it came up,

4:53

maybe the bar app played a song, and

4:55

I'm throwing out some facts about it. I really would have

4:57

loved to have done an episode on it, but I just don't think

4:59

anyone gives a shit. She's like,

5:02

no, from what you're saying,

5:04

that's what an interesting laugh. I think it would be

5:06

a great episode. Okay. Sophie. There's

5:09

a lot riding on Sophie's shoulder right now.

5:11

She keeps breaking those. Yeah, I'm just going

5:13

to say. Yeah, we'll quickly explain

5:15

that. Oh, yeah. Well, she was in

5:17

the UK last year. She had a fall and broke her

5:19

arm, and then just last week

5:21

at the time of recording, was hit by a

5:24

car. She said, I made getting hit by a car sound really

5:26

fun. She thought, just give it a go. She got hit by

5:28

a car, had the exact same break on the other arm. First

5:31

arm, not fully healed. Second

5:34

arm, now broken. That's a bad run.

5:37

Yeah. So, I just want

5:39

to go on the record and say, getting hit

5:41

by a car is not fun, and I'm sorry

5:43

I've made it sound really exciting. Oh, do you

5:45

think people are trying to emulate you, their

5:48

hero? Well, that's why I'm going on the record now, because

5:50

I don't want to be sued again. I

5:53

don't have the money to be sued again. Okay.

5:56

You Don't ruin me. You're not recovering from it all

5:58

the time. Again, yeah. Difference

6:00

to your still Back onto the have

6:03

not recovered. And I had

6:05

a pay pal if an. Explicit know I have not

6:07

recovered. My investments are made in new. Yes,

6:09

a threat. Well. I'm I'm so sorry

6:11

to hear that. Button

6:13

York Fed will tear up for

6:15

me to tell you the story

6:18

might say see tell me. Ah

6:20

will impart zero from Sap. Also

6:22

think about it, no salary skipper.

6:24

Let. Me know, when is the sad part and I'll

6:26

cover my isn't gonna none None the less, I mean.

6:28

As a she's like this Zuma is had

6:30

some ups and downs as it is another

6:33

couple of muslim suicide turbo and be dawned

6:35

on him again little heads up there ominous

6:37

warning there. So yeah I think just yet

6:39

may saying bit of a pick me up.

6:42

Most of it was time. Thirty does

6:45

this code itself legally. So.

6:47

He did not as is not.

6:49

That sucks. Huey Lewis was born

6:51

in on and fifty as you

6:53

Anthony Craig's this isn't afraid and

6:56

it's but it's not like Gray

6:58

me saying American Pride off belt

7:00

cr a double J. It is

7:02

frame I pronounce that Craig made

7:04

my furnace. I cried and so

7:06

he Craig the Third. This is

7:08

Sarah. Ah. Saia. His parents

7:10

are you probably guessed is Desmond Hume

7:13

Anthony Craig Jr. And. His mother

7:15

Mary Anne marie up Magdalena but

7:17

since his arm and the young

7:19

family when he was just for

7:22

his legs are move to Marin

7:24

County in California. He.

7:26

Had a very Bahamian my brain which is really

7:28

interesting because he sort of in the eighties. He

7:30

was like. Big. Pop saw during the

7:33

middle. yeah diseases like as big as

7:35

a gotten in are pretty easy as

7:37

a noise on a stride and stuff

7:39

like that funds as com his upbringing

7:41

was caught the opt for that very

7:43

Bahamian. His dad was studying medicine and

7:45

went on to become a radiologist. but

7:47

I a price by not for a

7:49

while to pursued loss as a jazz

7:51

drama and piano player. Ah are we

7:53

doing both at once. Yeah success.

7:57

is awful of us But

8:00

with jazz, it's hard to know. Titty

8:02

titty. It's a different time. Bling blong

8:04

bling. Titty titty titty titty titty. Bling

8:07

bling titty titty. Bling titty titty. Bling

8:09

titty ting. Bling ting. Wow. I

8:12

love it when you jazz. Yep,

8:15

me too. According to

8:17

Huey, after his dad graduated from Duke as a

8:19

pre-med, he said, I'm going to be a professional

8:22

drummer. And he went to New York and played

8:24

for a couple of years. But

8:26

he became very disenchanted. He was

8:28

bohemian. But he always believed in

8:30

discipline. And he saw all of his

8:32

heroes stoned. So he went back to medical school.

8:34

He was like, ah, he didn't love the drug

8:36

scene of it all. Loved

8:39

it. So interesting. I love jazz. I

8:41

love the bohemian lifestyle. But not those drugs. Those pinky

8:43

drugs. That's not what I'm in it for. I'm in

8:45

it for the t... Bling

8:48

flam, bling. You got to do the whole thing. Bling flam.

8:50

Ting ting. Bling ting. Ting

8:53

ting ting. Ting ting ting.

8:55

That's beautiful. Huey's

8:57

mum, on the other

8:59

hand, was more into the drugs. And

9:03

she was an artist, a bit of a hippie,

9:05

born in Poland. But she had

9:07

a really rough time early. If

9:10

you do the math, her and her parents

9:13

fled Poland during the Second World

9:15

War. According to a

9:17

1984 article in Rolling Stone written by

9:20

Christopher Connolly, his mother, Magda,

9:22

had wound her way through Portugal and

9:24

Brazil as World War II raged. And

9:26

Lewis later said, she often says that during

9:28

World War II, the sound of freedom to

9:30

her was jazz, American jazz. When

9:32

there was American jazz around, there were GIs

9:34

around and you knew you were safe. Oh,

9:37

wow. Things were incredibly hard

9:39

for his grandparents when they arrived in America,

9:41

though, according to Huey, when my grandparents came

9:44

to America, they had a real tough time.

9:46

They were quite wealthy in Poland, but in

9:48

America, they were discriminated against and not very

9:50

rich. They committed suicide together.

9:52

Oh, and in that moment, my

9:54

mum became a bohemian. She

9:57

was probably, if not the first hippie in San Francisco.

10:00

one of the very first hippies. She took LSD

10:02

and hung out with Timothy Leary, Ken

10:04

Cassie and Alan Ginsberg. All

10:07

these people in the blossoming beatnik hippie

10:09

scene in Salsa Lido. Any

10:11

of those names ring a bell? I know Alan

10:13

Ginsberg, but Ken... Yeah, from that

10:16

beat generation. Yeah. So she was right

10:18

at the center of this. Yeah, wow.

10:20

And because of that, so was young

10:22

Huey. Like he did, I'll mention

10:24

a few times, but he'd, um, at

10:26

different times during his childhood, he'd like wake up in the middle

10:28

and I go, so the people

10:30

you walk into the kitchen and Alan Ginsberg

10:33

sitting there. Just like eating cereal from the

10:35

box. Yeah. Hello. And

10:38

then was it his dad's walking around being like,

10:40

these hippies keep taking drugs. Fuck off. Get a

10:43

job. Yeah.

10:45

So like beatnik

10:47

poets, jazz musicians, all that sort of stuff would

10:50

be hanging out of his house all hours of

10:52

the night. But he was naturally gifted academically. Sort

10:54

of like sometimes, you know, you rebel against your

10:56

parents in different ways. And he was just like

10:59

nailing school. His mom

11:01

is like on LSD and stuff. And he's

11:03

like just... Really studious. Yeah.

11:05

Smashing it. He skipped second

11:07

grade because he was, you know, ahead

11:09

of everyone else. And he

11:12

later said that was due to him

11:14

excelling in the sandbox. Bit

11:16

of fun. Bit of fun. Second grade, you know, I

11:18

was very early in school. Oh, skip second grade. Must

11:20

be pretty good in the sandbox. When I was in

11:22

grade one, I thought I should probably skip a grade.

11:24

I'd seen leather Simpsons. I knew it was possible.

11:27

And I said, Mum, I think I should skip a grade. And

11:29

she said, why? And I said, I've read all the books

11:31

in the class. And that's not even true. I hadn't read

11:33

all of them. I purposely skipped some that I thought were

11:35

a bit boring or below me. Sounds like you're good at

11:37

skipping. Yeah, I should skip it. Yeah, skip

11:39

books, skip class. Yeah. When I was in prep,

11:41

which is the first grade of primary school here

11:43

in Victoria, I

11:46

remember someone got a question right and the

11:48

teacher definitely said, good work straight to grade

11:50

six. And They actually walked out

11:52

of the room and started walking up the corridor. And The

11:54

teacher had to be like, oh, no, no, just a joke.

11:56

Just You actually go into grade six. Oh, my God. And

11:59

They were in grade six. The Crappy yeah, that's

12:01

so funny. it's really been monogamous side

12:03

zombie. I thought I'd let it proves

12:05

he had my son be. a

12:08

burn off the one city didn't go that way

12:11

as was forced to go to do it now

12:13

when he was about twelve my be so attain

12:15

his parents got divorced is probably say that coming.

12:20

Into one of them love drugs, the

12:22

other one hated to see original odd

12:24

hop on. A thought he said tom

12:26

make it work what have to the rest of

12:28

the sas Li says. Shocking to me. I need

12:31

a moment. And sounds like

12:33

that. Movie

12:35

I am arm and and post I a great thank

12:37

you. I guess you could edlin a moment. Thank.

12:41

You. So

12:44

yep ah seems like think his

12:46

mom so the dots. Custody

12:48

for the most part which makes sense

12:50

of again given to the drug math

12:52

another dog beds some not was never

12:55

doctor. Secret the second book

12:57

on parent to that base and his dad

12:59

was came from Togethers conservative prep school in

13:01

New Jersey which seems like a weed thing

13:03

for Bahamian dad to want him to do

13:06

but it was just my me to get

13:08

him away from the drugs saints These incentives

13:10

confirms this result Says does such a wet

13:12

blanket as a mom and dad went to

13:15

court over oh I'm I'm I'm I'm like

13:17

no I wanted to stay here in the

13:19

doghouse. Does not want to

13:21

go of their wife's in the drugs and

13:23

ah it was a bit of a cel

13:26

mai until the jobs are sui what he

13:28

would wanna do as he felt awful about

13:30

like our man thought it was. Pretty.

13:32

Traumatic that the trees basically to

13:34

sort of the other arm but

13:37

in the end he he went

13:39

with the prep school i'm Pamela

13:41

he he got sucked in by

13:43

this described glossies by So my

13:45

Dog So much fun Ah but.

13:48

Only got they didn't like it so

13:50

much I did. It wasn't rather in

13:53

a picture postcard is expecting but while

13:55

they're to continue to enjoy music apparently

13:57

is hop on a train said. Philadelphia

14:00

and saw shows by Blues

14:02

Legends like Muddy Waters and

14:04

Howlin' Wolf. And

14:07

academically, he was

14:09

earning honor roll grades, especially maths or math,

14:11

as I say with this. And

14:13

he was also an all state baseball player in the

14:15

picture. So just like, wow,

14:18

kind of high achieving and whatever he

14:20

did. Yeah. Due

14:22

to him skipping ahead back in grade two, he

14:25

graduated high school at the age of 16 and

14:27

his grades, including a perfect 800 on

14:30

his math SAT meant he was

14:32

accepted into Cornell University in

14:34

New York to study electrical engineering. Wow.

14:37

At 16. Yeah. What a

14:39

guy. Real doogie house right here. Yeah.

14:43

Yeah, doogie house is actually based on him. Wow.

14:45

Yeah. They changed it from

14:47

like Huey to Doogie and electrical engineering

14:49

to MD. That's

14:52

good stuff. They cut out all the music stuff.

14:54

Yeah. And the baseball. They

14:57

were going to be like a bit much. Yeah.

15:00

Make it believable. And the Bohemian parents. No, no,

15:02

no. They cut out. But apart from

15:04

that is exactly a lie. It's crazy. He

15:08

planned to focus on baseball over the

15:10

summer before heading off to

15:12

college, but his dad

15:14

instead convinced him to hitchhike around

15:16

Europe instead. His dad was like,

15:18

this is the last thing we're going to make you do. You're 16. You've

15:21

graduated. As far as I'm concerned, you're a man

15:23

now. What?

15:27

Not in the eyes of the law. But he's like, you're

15:29

a child. And he's dad's like, look, I feel like a

15:31

bit of a nerd that's into that prep school. Yeah. I'm

15:33

going to try and get some character back into you. You

15:37

have to hitchhike now. Okay. Yeah. You're a prep. Not

15:39

down the road. You're a... You got perfect on your

15:41

SATs and doing all that really made me feel sick.

15:45

I think he was like, you know, pretty

15:47

wise and that is much more common wisdom now.

15:49

This is in the 60s. Yeah. But

15:51

gap years weren't really a thing

15:54

back then. But he was like, no one

15:56

knows really what they want to do yet. Or

15:58

it's unlikely. Maybe. find

16:00

yourself over there, just bum around

16:02

for a year and just take

16:04

your time basically. Wow. 16 is

16:06

so young. Yeah, that's too young. I

16:08

was so dumb at 16. I'm

16:11

pretty dumb now, but like I

16:13

reckon I can get on a plane and go to a different

16:15

country by myself now and I'll be okay. At 16,

16:17

no. You'd be

16:20

freaking out. Absolutely. Probably

16:22

at 20 after all actually. Yeah,

16:25

so he seems very all over

16:28

the shop, going from this

16:30

conservative prep school to go bum around for

16:32

a year in Europe as a 16-year-old. But

16:36

his mum apparently said this was the

16:38

first good idea his dad had ever

16:40

had. So she

16:42

liked it. She's like, yeah, it's a great idea. Apparently

16:45

she gave him a Bob Dylan record

16:48

and said, apparently the poet's really loving this guy.

16:50

I should check it out.

16:53

And after the breakup, his mum also

16:55

started seeing a beat poet named

16:57

Lou Welch. I don't know, does that renamer him

16:59

a bit? And

17:02

according to Matthew Wills writing

17:04

for JSTOR, he was a hard-drinking beat

17:07

poet and an inspiration for one of

17:09

Jack Kerouac's characters in Big Sur. He

17:13

also helped bring Huey up and became

17:15

his stepfather. So sort of in holidays

17:17

from prep school, he'd go back for

17:19

the summer. So he goes from blazers

17:22

and tires and stuff during

17:24

school term and then full

17:26

hippie lifestyle. Wow. LSD in the middle

17:29

of the – well, not him, but

17:31

people around him. How interesting, yeah. Yeah.

17:34

And I think his mum – I listed there was

17:36

a really good episode of WTF that came out

17:38

back in 2013. And it's

17:40

just a – yeah, I've listened

17:42

out a few times while putting

17:45

this report together. And I just

17:47

love hearing him talk. He's just real fun. He

17:49

just seems like a super nice guy. Yeah, cool.

17:52

But yeah, he was sort of like, you know, I'd be

17:55

wearing the blazer and you'd get home and mum would be

17:57

like, take that blazer off. We're going to see some music

17:59

or whatever. Wow, it's kind of

18:01

a really interesting way to like raise

18:03

a pretty well-rounded person. You

18:05

know, it's like put them in this really conservative

18:07

school, but then also like loosen up a little.

18:10

It's interesting. It could be terrible, but

18:12

it sounds like maybe it's working okay

18:15

for him. That's right. Apparently,

18:17

his mum also had a

18:19

border at the time, a guy called

18:22

Billy Roberts, who was

18:24

a folk singer-songwriter. And his

18:26

claim to fame is that he wrote the song Hey

18:28

Joe, which became a huge

18:30

hit for Jimi Hendrix. So that

18:32

was just, he was just boarding at her

18:34

house. He wrote it during the 60s and

18:38

he played a lot of

18:40

harmonica's. At once.

18:43

Up and down, up and down. So

18:46

he just had heaps in his room and he

18:49

gave a few of his old ones to Huey

18:51

and he took a few of them on

18:53

the trip with him as he went hitchhiking. Cool.

18:56

And yeah, then in 1967,

18:58

he left home in Marin

19:01

County, California and hitchhiked his

19:03

way across America with

19:06

the aim of flying to Europe from Boston for some

19:08

reason. It's closer. Yeah, I guess so.

19:10

I'll drive as far as I can and then go from

19:12

Boston. But

19:15

yeah, did you guys know

19:17

Hey Joe? No. The song

19:20

Hey Joe, no. Hey Joe,

19:22

don't make it bad. No,

19:26

that's not the one but that's all right.

19:28

I thought it was more impressive than you

19:30

both gave it. But we're very young. Jimi

19:32

Hendrix, that's very cool. Cool person.

19:34

It's one of Jimi Hendrix really big ones. You know,

19:36

his were all basically big songs were all killed. It

19:38

was like all along the watchtowers of Bob Dylan

19:40

song. But yeah, that was

19:42

that's one of the big ones like an all time great

19:44

rock song. How's it go? Hey

19:47

Joe. No, no, no, no. No,

19:51

no, no. Okay, none of

19:53

that sounded right. But it was definitely yeah, this

19:55

is how I black dog dinner was like. A

19:57

whole lot of love. A whole lot of love.

19:59

So goddamn. Damn it. Damn it. That's

20:02

going to kick you off tonight. Is that Paul Ludda

20:04

Love? Go ahead. All right. We're pausing for a second

20:06

so these f***s can hear this AJ,

20:08

sorry. Rude. Yeah, listeners, just

20:10

give us one second. We're just going to

20:13

play. And would it be in

20:15

these top five Spotify songs? I'd probably know like,

20:18

Purple Haze, Foxy Lady, or Long

20:21

Watchtower. Yeah. It's in

20:23

amongst those. Really? It's

20:26

had a... Okay, it's in the top five. You're

20:28

right. F Good

20:30

one. It is the third most played. It's

20:33

had nearly 300 million plays. Wow. But

20:35

I guess... We're going to have to know it. Okay,

20:37

let me say that again. So we've

20:39

just... I've just played Hey Joe to Dave

20:41

and Jess and now I'm going to tell

20:43

them a quick fact again. So at the

20:46

time his mum had a boarder named Billy

20:48

Roberts. He was a folk singer, songwriter who

20:50

wrote the song Hey Joe. Oh my God.

20:52

Wait, from Jimmy Hendrix? Yes, that's right. No

20:54

fricking way. I love that song. Man,

20:56

you're lying. That's the

20:58

coolest thing I've ever heard. It just...

21:01

To me, it's just a wild upbringing. Totally. It's

21:04

like Allen Ginsberg, Hey Joe

21:06

writer. Yep. I wouldn't have known

21:08

Billy Roberts by name, but the guy who wrote Hey Joe. Yeah.

21:11

Just all these people are floating through his

21:13

sphere. It's very cinematic, isn't it? It feels

21:15

like Forrest Gump. Totally done, P.S. All

21:17

these historical figures are just floating through his life.

21:20

Yeah. And that happens, you know, that continues to

21:22

happen to some extent. So yeah.

21:25

So off he goes. He hitchhikes across

21:27

America. Chunk of the trip he rode

21:29

with a guy who'd stolen a car,

21:32

and him and a few other hitchhikers

21:34

each night in the middle of the night would

21:36

steal petrol by siphoning it so they could continue

21:38

their trip. He

21:40

talks about it like, you know, there were times where

21:43

they're driving off and there's a guy coming

21:46

after him with a shotgun and stuff like that.

21:48

Like pretty hectic sort of visual.

21:50

A fun montage though in the movie. Yeah, exactly.

21:52

And they look at a gargling petrol. This

21:56

life would make such a good film. He Couldn't afford a

21:59

plane to. the summer of

22:01

should have mentioned probably set to figure out

22:03

another way of a boarding a plane since

22:05

parents said guys attacker and Europe that they

22:08

gave him know help in getting to Europe

22:10

I think I don't like i'm boys that

22:12

gave him a few hundred bucks but

22:14

is like. I. Need this to Our

22:16

Been trying to make this stretch out for

22:19

a year or so. I need to. Hold.

22:21

On to it as as I can

22:23

and only spend it when I have

22:26

to spend as tag on a plan.

22:28

please tell me south siphoning playing field.

22:30

He built his own flag with the

22:32

assistance of these sites for three minutes

22:34

here yet another plane and fly it

22:36

yes some so it's yet. As

22:38

good guess, but no. Luckily one

22:40

of the guys who picked him

22:42

up along his journey across America.

22:45

Failed. Him and on the the scam

22:47

had a scam his wound to a

22:50

flawed and as soda complex but also

22:52

sort of really simple by see get

22:54

the really early the price on a

22:56

farm to sit and out a ticket

22:59

offices on a computer ah the suspect

23:01

that yes and then he ford's change

23:03

the details to for the pen ah

23:05

and and the decay was sitting at

23:08

a really am undesirable site and I

23:10

middle. Roger. Ver a wing

23:12

or wherever the ones that would sell loss

23:14

is like, planes would rarely be fully sold

23:16

out there. The last month ago see one

23:19

of them and then the other trick was

23:21

he then sit so you did say i'm

23:23

i'm sitting road. Twenty. Seven Bay.

23:25

But then you'd sit in.

23:28

Ah, you know, Rose. Thirty.

23:30

Four I can say yes. Adds that

23:32

give you two shots at it. If.

23:34

I if someone goes hey tom and to be sitting

23:37

there and they come I was I cannot take the

23:39

tickets all sorry I'm it's be over there. And

23:42

doubles your chances of getting away with

23:44

that. Good. And he got away with

23:46

it. Wow, that's so funny. Death.

23:49

He flew him. At. Work that he

23:51

flew to Europe. Once he got there,

23:54

he hit psyched down through France and

23:56

Spain to Marrakech in Morocco. I bumped

23:58

into a South African. Guy and.

24:02

And who dude had sought his own way

24:04

up through Africa And dog I decided I'm

24:06

going to get America's for two days. That

24:08

ended up saying this, a man's. To

24:11

smoke and has. And. Busty

24:14

in the square with is how monica

24:16

and yet I'm of skill at the

24:18

the county was but basically four bucks

24:20

a day one bucks would play for

24:23

the combination one bucks a third and

24:25

these my feel small profit every digest

24:27

from bus the on the harmonic can

24:30

laugh at. And. This is

24:32

an instrument he's been teaching himself since

24:34

he has not that long ago. S:

24:36

I'm after a few months ah you

24:39

know it has grown adds that looking

24:41

like hippies and whatnot. I'm after few

24:43

months they decide to he talks. North

24:47

and erupts there and Marcus in the

24:49

North is Africa they had back into

24:52

Europe. Ah but today's they have to

24:54

go back for spine and it probably

24:56

was quite hard said he'd be taught

24:58

to i'm hitchhiked response at the time

25:01

I don't the of realize this but

25:03

spine was under the dictatorship of the

25:05

guy called Francisco Franco. is that ah

25:07

neh me a dahlia anchored like that

25:10

getting rougher with on six furlongs on.

25:12

Yes so paypal palio desolate tends to

25:14

their the bob is very different. People

25:17

weren't necessarily gonna just pick up some random

25:19

yes it's aka and he said l a

25:21

lot of the people who did pick them

25:23

up would be ah from other parts of

25:26

Europe like German. tourists. And

25:28

South Arm. And

25:30

a just be playing harmonica. Old Die

25:32

Waiting. A. bit by bit moving

25:34

across and ninety be playing on like

25:36

a all and the back of the

25:39

com like some of my buffalo is

25:41

it as far as i'm young i'm

25:43

actually eminem live here now i'm actually

25:45

driving to the ice and it's all

25:47

that might explain this next thing i'm

25:49

because yeah the one of the stories

25:51

he tells his side he got picked

25:53

up on old dutchman the gives my

25:55

billie seventy the geico jimmy vanda something

25:57

and die a cruise up in this

26:00

old Chevrolet 1920s 1930 Chevrolet

26:03

which apparently had been featured in the classic film

26:05

Casablanca. There's another sort of Forrest Gump moment. This

26:07

is one of the greatest films of all time.

26:09

It's meant to be right? Yeah. Never seen it.

26:12

It looks boring. But yeah, that's long and boring.

26:14

My god damn I don't give a damn, man.

26:16

My god damn I don't give a damn, man.

26:18

Is that that movie? Let's play it again, Sam.

26:21

Oh right. What's the one I'm thinking of? Dump of the wind.

26:23

Dump of the wind, yeah. Frankly my

26:25

idea, I don't give a damn. Right. Play

26:28

it again, Sam. Frankly my dear, I don't give

26:30

a damn. Ma'am. Wham bam. Thank you, ma'am. There

26:32

it is. God, it's beautiful to watch his

26:34

brain work. And

26:37

Rose or whatever. Rosebuds.

26:41

There are three classic movies that I have not

26:43

been able to sit through. But I really should

26:45

because they're more mature. I don't know what Rosebuds

26:47

is. Rosebuds, the one about that guy,

26:49

the media, loosely based on that media

26:51

guy, Austin Wells or something. No, Austin Wells'

26:53

direct of it. Yes. And Rose was about

26:56

it. Yeah, they were fragments of sorts. Yeah,

26:58

yeah, right. But it's Citizen Kane. Citizen Kane.

27:01

Rosebud is also a cheat in

27:03

The Sims. It's a money

27:05

cheat. Ah. Do you think that's a

27:07

little nod? Probably. Yeah. The Sims is very,

27:09

very high art. What are some of the other... Because

27:11

that rings about like it feels like in the back

27:13

of my brain. I'm thinking of that. You can also

27:16

type in Kaching. Rosebud.

27:18

Oh, there's another one. Anyway, it doesn't

27:20

matter. So anyway. I'm just playing

27:23

The Sims a lot at the moment. So

27:25

all of a sudden he's driving through the

27:27

dictatorship of Spain. In the Casablanca. In the

27:29

Casablanca classic Chevy. But this guy,

27:31

this old fella, this old

27:33

Dutch fella said he was driving all the way to

27:35

Holland. So he's like, oh, fantastic. You can take us

27:38

for, you know, ages. The

27:41

only problem was, old Jimmy was a bit of a

27:43

loose unit and had a tradition of stopping at every

27:45

bar they passed. And he'd have a shot at every

27:47

bar they went. And his

27:49

passengers would have a shot as well. Every bar.

27:51

Everyone's just shit faced. Yeah, including the driver.

27:53

Yeah. Which is not ideal. No, no, but

27:55

we're looking at it through a modern lens.

27:58

That's true. Yeah. Back Then. Wherever

28:01

we're in a dictator says I was

28:03

visiting. A basis for the city is

28:05

classified as our your memories with cosmic

28:08

than the didn't have seatbelts yes to

28:10

see both that of the kill you

28:12

in an accident that's what we still

28:15

a seat belt yeah I'm very dangerous.

28:17

I do miss on the whole a

28:19

though right? exactly. Yeah, Necropolis

28:21

own because the car would just plow

28:23

through whatever drive into. Yet for some

28:25

the minimum wage is what did cern

28:28

because he was of his shops and

28:30

he plowed through a fence and into

28:32

a flooded field license. But my view

28:34

the harmonica player in the background. So

28:36

they're all of the shops in his

28:38

classic old car. They run of the

28:40

time you know it's a thirty forty

28:42

year old car and the waters just

28:44

coming up through the floor. and they

28:46

like autism and good. Ah. But

28:49

they're all a bit shops me like it's

28:51

all pretty blurry. Buddies vaguely remembers the dutchman

28:53

getting out of far extinguisher and sprang the

28:55

engine and same to get a going and

28:58

somehow are not since I'm not a mechanical.

29:01

Engineer or scientists or mechanics? Ah no,

29:03

I'm one of those. The some and

29:05

then are far from. Ah,

29:08

Xian the formatting mechanics, but I don't see how

29:10

that would be relevant. The system. So

29:13

that they have drawn up again

29:15

but unfortunately when they got stopped

29:17

at the Portuguese border. Ah,

29:19

he realizes passport was missing. It had

29:21

slowed it out of the car and

29:23

that's beyond not say. So.

29:26

He was out. Again at the

29:28

find his way to Seville ah to

29:30

go the American embassy to sort out

29:32

a replacement says no charming to Holland

29:34

and that somehow driven into puts you.

29:37

Know Dr. Dr. the runway yeah once

29:39

again unless unless you going off along

29:41

the whole case I guess. Yeah.

29:43

I think they have warming. The driver was drunk.

29:47

To Sue: funny Be like White on the

29:49

Netherlands. Are you doing his skin smelling long?

29:51

I had west year that isn't or as

29:53

war would they don't matter. Of

29:55

a safe where probably says he thought that be

29:57

more bars along with last. year

30:00

along the way. Yeah, because Seville is

30:02

right, you know, it's right down south.

30:05

So yeah, I think it checks out. But yeah, why

30:07

would he have been going through Portugal? Maybe it was

30:09

just to get out of... Yeah. Maybe

30:11

it's just a better place to be at that time.

30:13

Go along the coast because there's no dictator there. But

30:15

does that mean he has to ditch his friends to

30:17

go to see if they keep going without him? I

30:19

believe so. So he heads to Seville and

30:22

you know, he doesn't have much

30:25

cash on him. He just has enough. I think he's

30:27

got 20 bucks left, which will pay for his replacement

30:29

passport. 20 bucks. He gets

30:31

there and they've just closed. It's a Friday. So he's

30:33

got to wait. He's got to get through the weekend

30:35

until they open again on the Monday. So

30:38

what does he do? Gamble it. Plays

30:41

that harmonica. Put it all down. That's

30:43

what he should have done. Should have done. Yeah.

30:45

Play that harmonica. He just, you know, he hangs out

30:48

playing the harmonica. And

30:50

some locals just sort of love it and they go, do you

30:52

want to play? I've got a concert on this way and you

30:54

want to headline it. His

30:56

first ever gig. Apparently it was in front of thousands of

30:59

people. There were some decent local

31:01

bands there. And they're like, who the

31:03

fuck is this guy? He's headlining. According

31:06

to Connelly, writing the Rolling Stone, he earned 150 bucks,

31:08

you know, which for

31:10

him at the time was a heap of

31:13

cash. Seven passports. And

31:15

yeah, it was organised with the help

31:17

of some communist students. He had befriended

31:19

there in Seville and he later said,

31:21

I thought, we're rich. And

31:23

the guy said, let's go out to dinner. Let's

31:26

celebrate. So 35 of us went out. The bill

31:28

came. It was one hundred and forty dollars. And

31:30

the guy took the money out, paid the tab

31:32

and said to me, here's your 10 bucks. And

31:35

I said, socialism. I get it.

31:40

Yeah, 10 bucks. So pretty good. I mean, he's got not

31:42

much cash. He only had 20 on him. Yeah. Now he's

31:44

got 30. That's pretty good. System

31:46

works. You've made 10 bucks. Yeah. And

31:49

it's in like a day. And

31:51

I, you struggle to make 10 bucks a day

31:53

now. And what a great feast that must have

31:55

been. Yeah. You're like

31:57

your new friend. Yeah, that's funny because he would have

31:59

done. The gigs are free probably. So

32:02

they could have said, we'll pay you 10 bucks and it'll

32:04

be fantastic. And we get a feast. But

32:07

then once you've been, once you've got 150

32:09

bucks, you're like, the things I'm

32:11

going to do with this money. Anyway,

32:14

so he had a wild time over

32:17

there. That's so awesome. Then

32:19

just because his dad said he

32:21

wanted us to like pursue baseball,

32:24

his dad's like, nah. Go

32:26

back, Pat. Go hitchhiking. Yeah.

32:28

Wild. And you know,

32:30

there's a heap of other stories, but

32:32

we'll head back to America with him

32:35

where he enrolled at Cornell. There's

32:37

apparently quite a prestigious school. And there, according

32:39

to Connolly, he spent his time dodging classes

32:41

and hanging out with the SDS crowd, which

32:43

I think is, I looked

32:46

it up. It's like some sort of students

32:48

for a democratic society. I was thinking America's a

32:50

laugh at you saying, which apparently is quite a

32:52

good school. I think it would be like saying

32:54

Oxford. I think it's quite a good school. I

32:56

think it's pretty good. People hold it quite highly.

32:58

I think it might be in the top 500

33:00

universities. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Up

33:02

there with Monash? Yeah. Which

33:04

campus? Peninsula. Oh, no.

33:07

Is there one there? No, no, no. South Africa.

33:09

The South African Monash campus is fantastic.

33:12

Jadberg. Jadberg. We've got

33:14

all these. Is that kind of right?

33:16

I was going to go do a semester in Jadberg, but

33:19

then I found out that I'd already

33:21

done the handful of subjects that

33:24

would have been eligible to do. They didn't have as big

33:26

of a core doing there and I'd already done them. Think

33:28

about how well you would have gone. Yeah.

33:30

You've already written the assignments. Oh, no, that's right. Come

33:32

on. You should have gone. You're saying that's why I

33:34

can't do it? Surely that's the best reason why I

33:37

should do it. I've been doing it again. Oh,

33:40

I was so excited. That's the reason I got my passport years before

33:43

I ever went out. What

33:45

my biggest regrets is not doing some sort

33:47

of exchange during the university. Like a six

33:49

month, a 12 month thing. Even just a

33:51

few weeks. I wish I'd done something. It

33:54

was, yeah, my problem was the, the

33:57

go with the flow thing, which I've always kind of had.

34:00

is good and it led me

34:02

to go, yeah, I'll go to, I didn't know that

34:04

was an option, I'll do that and apply and then

34:06

I, but because I didn't plan at all, I, if

34:08

I'd thought about it, I would have seen the subjects

34:10

and avoided them. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

34:14

Um, so it's, but then maybe if I was really planned

34:16

out, I never would have even thought to go. I don't

34:18

know. I looked at doing a semester in the

34:20

UK but because they're, they're, you know,

34:22

their school years are so different. I would

34:24

have been there over like Christmas and New

34:27

Year's and it was towards the end

34:29

of my uni. So I was, I just wanted to be

34:31

finished. I'd already been at uni an extra year. I was

34:33

like, I just want to be done. So then

34:35

I thought maybe I'll go to New Zealand. And

34:38

that didn't feel like enough of a

34:41

distance. I'll just stay and finish

34:43

my degree. Nothing's

34:45

better than New Zealand. That's basically what you

34:47

were saying. You were thinking. No,

34:49

I started to go like, oh, it's quite expensive to live

34:52

on campus. I'd have to get a job. At least I

34:54

could get a job in New Zealand, you know. Yeah. And

34:57

then there were earthquakes and mum was like, you're not going to

34:59

New Zealand. And that's not a bad call, I think. So

35:02

I agree. So according to Connolly, he spent

35:04

his time dodging class and hanging out with

35:06

this SDS crowd, students

35:08

for Democratic Society. He

35:11

said he likes hanging out with them simply

35:13

because at that point, they were the only ones who smoked

35:15

pot. I made fast friends with

35:17

a lot of them. They're all in the

35:19

movie business now or running for public office

35:22

or in real estate. I don't want a

35:24

lot of different things in here. They're all

35:26

in Hollywood or three other jobs. One's an

35:28

accountant. All of them. One's a full time

35:30

stay at home dad. Like, there's so many

35:33

different things. He started,

35:35

you know, rolling through a bunch

35:37

of different bands, including one called

35:39

Slippery Elm. He

35:42

later said the band was OK, but I was horrible.

35:44

And for the first time, he started getting into rock and roll.

35:47

He said, I'd always go to the show and there'd

35:49

be Otis Redding and the Kinks and the Flying Burrito

35:51

Brothers. And I always dug Otis Redding. He really liked.

35:54

And I think this was maybe like a bit of

35:56

a rebellion against his parents, the hippie stuff and that

35:58

sort of stuff. They like soul music. music and stuff

36:00

like that. He said, we were

36:02

weaned on radio that played Otis Redding

36:04

and then the Flying Barados and then

36:06

Dylan and Led Zeppelin, Judy Collins, the

36:08

Chambers Brothers, Muddy Waters, then Seals and

36:11

Crofts, country soul. Got a

36:13

bit of a mix. He said, that's what the 60s were all

36:15

about. They weren't about drugs. They

36:17

were about, I don't know, he seemed to

36:20

make certain friends just because of the drug ban, right? Contradicts

36:23

and stuff. Well, there were

36:25

no drugs, not a single drug, not

36:27

even a prescription. No, I couldn't

36:29

get him if you weren't an inventor yet.

36:32

You're toeing your dog. It

36:35

was great. Better

36:38

times. It was a good old days. But

36:41

he said it was a great time. As long

36:43

as you're into it, it was cool. I don't

36:45

care if it was chemistry or if it was

36:47

politics or if it was about the oud, it

36:50

didn't matter if you're into it. It was, well,

36:52

we'll listen, man. We're there for you. I thought

36:54

those were wonderful days. What's the oud? It's all

36:56

about youth, I think. It's an old instrument, I

36:58

think. It's like a lute sort of looking thing. Sure.

37:01

I think. Don't have me. Later

37:04

saying it was Tom and Cornell, I

37:06

really just joined and played in bands for a year and

37:08

a half, then the work started to

37:10

catch up with me. Basically, he says he

37:12

did about five minutes of work over a

37:15

few years there. Not

37:18

very much. No. He said, I

37:20

called my old man. I said, Pops, I'm dropping out.

37:23

I want to be a musician. And

37:25

he went, well, you either know what you're

37:27

doing or you don't. Good luck. And

37:29

according to Huey, it looked like a

37:32

very bad decision for a very long

37:34

time. His parents seem pretty cool. Yeah,

37:36

totally. Like, yeah, for

37:39

that time, especially, you'd

37:41

think there'd be a lot of

37:43

pressure to just finish and live a life

37:45

a certain way. You need at least a backup

37:47

plan. Yeah, yeah, for his dad to be like, all

37:49

right, well, that might be a fuck

37:51

up. See ya. You'll figure

37:54

it out, good luck. You can always go back

37:56

to college. Yes, you can. Not

37:58

many. I have a Dr. Paul's casting. Still

38:01

still could be so could be so could be one day So

38:04

he ended up heading back West

38:06

to the Bay Area in California

38:08

and you know He got stuck

38:10

in the music in 1971. He

38:12

joined the band clover as their

38:14

harmonica player clover was already You

38:17

know a relatively successful band had produced

38:19

and released albums and stuff without breaking through

38:21

or anything That

38:24

a few band members went on to other

38:26

things including future doobie brother John McPhee His

38:29

name isn't doobie. Yeah. What how do you get into

38:31

the brothers? How do

38:33

you get into brothers? Hey,

38:36

can I be a brother? Thanks,

38:39

though. Thank you interest. I'm auditioning

38:42

for brothers. You're auditioning for brothers. Yeah

38:45

I've got one but I thought are you gonna

38:47

raise for the part of brothers? I could do I

38:49

could do with another one Maybe yeah. Oh,

38:52

I'm sorry. You're not yeah, you're taking

38:54

audition. I'm taking a mission. I'm holding

38:56

auditions. Okay You smell

38:58

and Thing what do you think

39:00

of that? Yeah, sorry. I didn't

39:02

believe it. No beautiful I know I

39:05

do that's not very properly to be

39:07

a true brother You have to be

39:09

able to pinpoint something that I'm not

39:11

sure about, you know, but I

39:13

know I smell fantastic Yeah, you're

39:16

confident in your own smell Yes in my

39:18

own stench. Your musk. My musk I'm

39:21

just scanning you like like one of those

39:24

80s futuristic robot. Yeah, and I'm finding

39:26

no chinks in your armor Correct. No faults.

39:28

Yeah, damn it Bulletproof

39:32

Anyway, so this I think this is around the time He

39:36

started going by Huey

39:38

Lewis there was a little patch in between

39:41

between Hugh Craig the third and Huey Lewis where

39:43

he I believe went by Huey Louie But

39:49

yeah, apparently Huey Lewis Was

39:52

a bit of an homage

39:55

To his missing stepdad Lewis

39:57

Welch. Yes, that's That's

40:00

right, I said missing. Missing? Assumed

40:02

dead. Drama. Yeah.

40:04

Sorry, that was probably

40:07

insensitive. Somebody's assumed dead and

40:09

I'm like, eww, juicy. What's

40:12

the goth's spell? I

40:14

was talking before about Matthew Wills writing

40:17

about him. We'll go back to him now.

40:19

According to Wills, one day

40:21

in 1971, the hard-drinking beat poet walked into

40:23

the woods of Nevada County, northeast of San

40:26

Francisco. He took a gun and left behind

40:28

a suicide note. He was

40:30

ever found, which is why biographies and

40:32

his dates were the question marks. Wow.

40:35

Still never been found. Wills

40:37

also writes, in Song of the

40:39

Turkey Buzzard, arguably his best-known poem, Welch

40:42

still is spelt with a C. So

40:44

that's why I'm saying Welch. I don't know if it's just Welch still.

40:47

Just letting you know why the poet heads out

40:49

there a furious squirm with the other Welch. Welch

40:52

urged his friends in this well-known poem

40:55

of his to, quote, place my meat

40:57

before the vultures in a sky burial.

41:00

Sky burials in

41:02

which a person's remains are placed on a

41:04

mountaintop to be eaten by a carrion birds

41:06

are Tibetan Buddhist tradition and it's

41:08

considered an act of compassion and kindness for the

41:10

other creatures of the earth who, after all, need

41:13

to eat too. We covered that

41:15

on Burial Cremation or other. Oh, yeah. One

41:17

of your options. Sky burials. What

41:19

am I not? Yeah. Out

41:21

in the open and they just peck away at you. Yeah, I don't

41:24

mind that now. I've grown. It'd be interesting

41:26

to go back. Eight years ago, I was like, nah.

41:29

Ew. My body is a wonderland,

41:31

but not for the birds. John

41:34

Mayer and that's it. John

41:36

Mayer just pecking at your body. Leave my

41:38

body to John Mayer. John

41:40

Mayer's like, no, thank you. I

41:43

don't want that. No, it's an o

41:45

for me. John, you know you want it. Please

41:48

show away these birds. I'm only to be

41:50

pecked at by John Mayer. John

41:53

Mayer, remember, after all, you need to eat too.

41:55

Okay. That was an act of compassion, John. You're a great child,

41:58

John Mayer. John John Mayer is an act of compassion. Let

42:00

me get back at you, John. John, you've left a bit of my

42:02

body on your plate, John. Come back. No

42:05

dessert until you're finished eating me. John.

42:07

Okay, a bit weird. Um, according

42:10

to poetry scholar Rod Phillips, Welch

42:12

produced, quote, a finely crafted and

42:14

innovative body of work in poetry.

42:17

And he also said that his collected poetry

42:19

is, quote, a group of poems that are

42:21

among the purest and most precise of all

42:24

the beat creations. So he was, yeah,

42:27

he's almost like his, his mysterious

42:29

death is almost maybe overshadowed his

42:31

work, but apparently his poetry was

42:34

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43:50

according to encyclopedia.com, the manager of

43:53

the British group Dr. Feel Good

43:55

caught a clover show at the

43:57

Palomino Club and offered the group

43:59

a record. recording contract in England. So

44:02

they, before he joined, they had a recording

44:04

contract, recorded a few albums, didn't really take

44:06

off. They were dropped by their label. Now

44:08

Hughie is harmonica player in the band. And

44:12

yeah, it gets this new record deal

44:14

over in England. So

44:16

they spent a few years

44:19

there, sort of nonstop touring in

44:22

the south of England. And they

44:24

supported, they went on tours and supported some

44:26

legendary bands, including Lynyrd Skynyrd, who

44:28

you might have also talked about in that

44:31

Burial Cremation or other episode. You talked

44:33

about the day the music, I should

44:35

talk about that as well. I don't think

44:37

I talked about that. Please. I'm just

44:39

thinking of another musical playing tragedy. But anyway,

44:41

yeah, this was the pre-Lynyrd Skynyrd losing

44:43

most of their lineup in a plane

44:45

crash. But yeah, he supported them. He said

44:48

that they were awesome. They also supported

44:50

Irish rockers and fellow musical

44:52

legends, Thin Lizzy, on

44:55

some pretty long tours. And Hughie

44:57

actually features on their classic

44:59

live album Live and Dangerous playing harmonica.

45:01

And in the credits he's

45:04

billed as Bloozy Hughie Lewis. I

45:06

like that. That's nice. Yeah, so

45:08

fun. So it's like, this is

45:10

like known as one of the

45:12

iconic live rock albums. And before

45:14

Hughie Lewis was Hughie Lewis, really,

45:16

that was where you could

45:18

find him. That's awesome. Did you ever try

45:21

going by Hughis Lewis? Oh, that's

45:23

got to be the final stage of evolution. If

45:25

he was a Pokemon, which I've just learned about

45:28

on Primates recently, we did an episode

45:30

about Pokemon. So I finally get what you

45:32

kids are into. You just learned about Pokemon.

45:34

A little bit more. I know they evolve.

45:36

I know that Manky becomes Primeape. Sure. Yes.

45:39

And I know that now maybe

45:41

Hugh Craig the third becomes

45:44

Hughie Lewis, who becomes Hughie

45:46

Lewis, who becomes Hughis Lewis.

45:48

Hughis Lewis, the ultimate form.

45:51

Hughis Lewis. Hughis Lewis. So

45:54

yeah, busy Hughie Lewis, uh, on

45:57

the playing with Thin Lizzy. He also played harmonica

45:59

on Thin Lizzy. front man Phil

46:01

Linnet's debut solo album. Oh

46:04

my god, Linnet's skinner. What

46:06

did I say? Oh, Linnet's skinner. No, I said Phil

46:08

Linnet, right? Linnet, but I just thought that you can

46:10

combine. Oh my god. I'm doing that thing you do

46:12

on podcasts where things sound alike. Yeah. Linnet's

46:15

skinner, the Linnet's skinner cover band led by

46:17

Phil Linnet. Imagine that would be

46:19

a great, you could just do the hits of

46:21

maybe, you know, full household

46:23

name well-known hits. I'd

46:26

say there's probably three or four by Linnet's

46:28

skinner, maybe five or six by

46:30

Thinlizzy combined the two. That's a full

46:32

set. You know what I mean? Yeah. You

46:35

could play that in any pub in the world and

46:37

everyone will sing along to every word. Yeah, Linnet's skinner.

46:40

Linnet's skinner. Should we stop the podcast and

46:42

just quickly copyright that? And

46:45

we're back. Yeah,

46:47

Lewis really looked up to Linnet. He

46:50

saw him as a mentor. He

46:52

was asked in an interview recently if

46:55

he could have one more conversation with

46:57

anyone. It would be Phil Linnet. They

47:00

were probably working on a different

47:04

record together, but it was never finished as

47:06

when it died at just 36 years

47:08

of age. Oh, wow. Yeah, there was

47:10

a biopic, I haven't seen it, but there's a biopic about Phil Linnet.

47:12

It came out a couple of years ago, I think. Anyway,

47:15

Clover timed their arrival in the UK quite poorly. The

47:20

way Hugh Louis-Lewis talks about it. He's

47:22

ultimate for it. Basically

47:24

they landed around the time Punk was

47:26

taken off, you know. Right. And

47:29

he got punched in the face on the time. Yeah.

47:32

But you know, so like they're kind of

47:34

hippie-ish, country-ish, rock, you know, like just

47:37

very uncool in a punk scene. Yeah.

47:40

So just the timing was pretty poor. While he

47:42

was there though, he saw a few punk shows,

47:44

including if not the first,

47:46

one of the first shows by The Clash. He was

47:48

in the audience and he's like, it's just, it was

47:50

wild though. Just a lot of spit. I

47:54

remember a lot of spit. And he's like, where? Didn't

47:57

necessarily love the music, still like the music that

47:59

I always love. like you know soul and

48:01

other things but I love the vibe. I

48:03

love how they were thumbing their nose at

48:05

the establishment the music not following any of the

48:07

rules. I love the spit. I love the

48:09

spit. And it's kind of funny to hear

48:11

think of him at a punk show going yeah

48:13

I love this anti-establishment stuff when you sort

48:15

of flash forward 10 years and the band

48:17

he makes it in the news is like you

48:20

know it couldn't be any more sort of

48:22

corporatey sounding smooth polished

48:24

pop for MTV. He

48:26

took it in the news last 10 years back and his background

48:29

is so much more like out there

48:31

than probably any of the people

48:33

dressed with like punk hair. Exactly.

48:37

And he said it would be like you fucking square and

48:39

his reality is like I didn't grow

48:41

up with anything you grew up with. Yeah. It's

48:43

the absolute opposite. It

48:45

feels a bit like you told me this about

48:47

the clash Dave that of

48:49

the two major main front men of

48:51

the band. Oh Joe

48:53

Stromer and Mick Jones. And Joe Stromer was more like

48:56

I'm a punk. He wrote the more sort

48:58

of rocky punk songs and Mick

49:00

Jones wrote more the popier catchier

49:02

songs. But you were saying that

49:05

Joe Stromer was more. He

49:07

came from a higher class

49:09

family. More privilege. More privilege. And

49:11

Mick Jones actually came from a

49:13

working class sort of like

49:15

you know struggling growing up but

49:17

Joe left all that to become

49:20

a punk. Yeah. I think that's very funny

49:22

that he's like the famous one for

49:24

it. He's there during punk

49:27

really taking off but it just didn't you

49:29

know the timing's not great. Elvis

49:31

Costello was maybe almost like a

49:33

middle ground. It was closer to you know the

49:35

punk-y side but catchier version of the

49:37

then probably you know sextus and stuff. Man that's

49:40

going to annoy people who know more about that

49:42

scene. But you know what I'm vaguely saying.

49:44

Yeah. But anyway Elvis

49:47

Costello liked Clover a bit and got

49:49

them or you know via you

49:51

know a mutual connection. They ended up being

49:54

his backing band on his debut album My

49:56

Aim is True. Clover. I became

49:59

his band. Were his band for

50:01

his first album, you know, with Alice and

50:03

those sort of songs on it. So Hughie's

50:05

played on some amazing albums there. Well, the

50:07

rest of the band played on

50:09

that album. Elvis Costello

50:11

said, again, you play harmonica and

50:14

a few songs, maybe a bit

50:16

of backing vocals and stuff. But

50:20

Hughie, in the end, was absent from the sessions

50:22

later saying, I took a vacation. I could

50:25

have sung a bit or played a bit of harmonica. But

50:27

we've been on the road since 1970. We've been on the

50:29

road for eight, seven,

50:31

eight, nine years. Yeah, wow. He's like, I'm

50:33

done. I went instead. He went to Amsterdam.

50:36

But it like it became it's like an

50:38

iconic album. Yeah, he was almost on that

50:40

one too. That's amazing. In

50:42

Cyclopedia, right. Clover cut several albums in Great

50:44

Britain, but none sold well. Disappointed, the members

50:46

came back to San Francisco and kind of

50:48

just went in separate directions.

50:52

So he's in to his 30s now and the breaks

50:54

never happened. And he's getting

50:56

to the point which, you know, in pop

50:58

music, rock music, music business, you're

51:00

running out of time, really. What?

51:03

To really break it. Dave's

51:06

goal is to have a number one song. Exactly. By the

51:08

time I'm 40, I reckon. Yeah. Maybe 50. 50? Not

51:12

40. I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. You can

51:14

do it. I think you can. Yeah. I got my one hit wonder in me.

51:16

Well, no, I mean, get ready to

51:18

be inspired. Thank God, because at the moment

51:20

what you just said really has made me

51:22

feel uninspired. I've spooked you. Yeah. I'm

51:25

worried that my big break won't happen. So

51:28

he was sort of looking for something to do. He's

51:31

back hanging around, just bumming around and jamming in different

51:33

bands and stuff. And

51:36

he gets a few nights going

51:38

on these local little clubs, including

51:40

one called Uncle Charlie's. And

51:42

they started this night up called Monday Night

51:44

Live. And he'd sort of emcee it. They'd

51:46

have some comics on. They'd be the house

51:48

band. They had a theme song, that sort

51:50

of stuff. It was almost like a live

51:52

Letterman show kind of vibe. Right.

51:55

And he was sort of the host of

51:57

it and just music.

52:00

traditions from a

52:02

different, a bunch of different backing bands

52:04

would roll through like band members from

52:06

Sly Stone's band, members from Van Morrison's

52:08

band, even Van Morrison himself dropped by

52:10

a few times to play in the

52:12

shows as did Ricky Lee Jones

52:14

and of course members of the Doobie Brothers.

52:19

Brothers and not. Do you remember the Doobie Brothers?

52:21

He was one of them. For

52:25

some reason, you know, they built up his own

52:27

scene really and they ended up getting some free

52:29

studio time for some reason. Someone was like, oh,

52:31

we got some time in the studio, you want

52:33

to use it? And

52:35

they kind of worked up this gimmick song

52:37

at these nights, which was

52:40

a bit of a mashup, was a disco version

52:42

of the theme song from the movie Exodus, which

52:44

they of course called Exodisco. And

52:48

yeah, so it was a bit of a

52:50

laugh. They ended up recording that in these free

52:52

sessions, including they

52:54

had the saxophonist Pee Wee

52:56

Ellis, James Brown, saxophonist played on the

52:58

recording like a legendary muso.

53:02

And yeah, he laid a

53:04

record producer, Jake

53:07

Riviera, he played it for him and

53:10

he apparently said, my God, that's amazing. That's

53:13

fantastic. That's the most commercial thing I've ever

53:15

heard. I hope I never hear it again.

53:18

Now get out of my office. Phonogram,

53:21

or Phonogram, put the record out, but

53:24

it tanked. Probably for the

53:26

best, if not, I guess Huey

53:28

Lewis would have been forever known as the

53:31

like a novelty disco. Right.

53:33

Harmonica player. Interesting

53:37

jumble of words you just said. Yeah, yeah,

53:39

Harmonica, I don't know if I said that with disco. No.

53:42

Yeah, maybe it was just doing a bit of vocals. I

53:44

haven't actually listened to it briefly, but it sounded almost like

53:47

an instrumental. But I probably

53:49

should have sat through it. Maybe it was just a long intro. Look,

53:53

I'll do nearly anything to research for this

53:55

show, but I won't do that. No,

53:58

it was pretty fun. I'll listen to that. His

54:00

band this sort of band started coalescing

54:02

into a group this Monday Night Live

54:05

group and They

54:07

got a break when Niccolo and and Jake

54:09

Riviera Turned some throwaway line

54:11

Lewis said into a song some real corny

54:13

sort of thing like apparently

54:16

he heard him say like The

54:19

best thing I knew is me like I can't remember was

54:21

but it was something real cheesy sort of play on words

54:23

thing and They

54:25

recorded it as a song and Riviera was like,

54:27

oh we got to pay you for it You

54:29

know, we used your idea and he was like,

54:31

nah, it's a premiere for it But apparently Riviera

54:33

was insistent and according to

54:36

Connelly Lewis eventually accepted a round-trip ticket

54:38

to London To

54:40

go over and play harmonica on Lowe's

54:42

labor of lust and also Dave Edmonds's

54:45

Repeat when necessary so he's

54:47

playing on a bunch of other albums and whatnot

54:50

and at this point the Monday Night Collective Begun

54:53

call themselves Huey Lewis and American

54:55

Express a UK

54:58

label named chrysalis records were keen on

55:00

signing them but said at the last

55:02

minute They're like we need a new

55:04

name and I said change the name

55:06

overnight basically And that's when I became

55:08

Huey Lewis and the news. Yes, that's

55:10

right This episode is about the band

55:12

Huey Lewis and the news. Oh my

55:14

god bit of a reveal there. Don't

55:16

hold that back. Holy shit Perkins

55:19

level that's a JP T.

55:21

You know, he was Lewis is

55:23

Huey Lewis from here. That's right. What

55:26

in the hell? LT

55:30

just Perkins level twist Talking

55:33

of the early demos Lewis

55:36

is very self-deprecating saying you should hurt

55:38

you should hear these I

55:40

was an awful singer Not that I'm a

55:42

great singer now, but there was something about

55:44

us. It was definitely an urgency there a

55:47

hungriness Like it's so funny

55:49

to be like we weren't very good. But

55:51

jeez we were urgent We

55:53

were needed to get it. Yeah, get that

55:55

badness out of our system. We've

55:57

been described as an urgent podcast Just

56:01

get it out. Please make

56:03

it stop. That sort of thing. In

56:05

1980, I'm kind of going to skip over

56:08

the news of success to some extent, because

56:10

you know, it's just them being successful. But

56:12

in 1980, they released their self-titled album. It

56:15

was recorded pretty quickly and charted very

56:17

briefly, but it sank like a stone. Chrysalis

56:20

gave them another shot, and

56:23

they fought hard for creative control. They made it themselves, but

56:25

they're kind of learning on the job a bit. And

56:28

this, of course, added pressure. They knew they needed to have

56:30

a hit. So they took on a

56:32

song by Mutt Leng. Mutt Leng?

56:34

Mutt Leng. Mutt Leng. Yeah, Mutt Leng.

56:36

With an A at the end. Which

56:38

is called Do You Believe in Love?

56:41

They worked with him through

56:43

Clover, so they weren't that excited about it.

56:45

Like, it didn't really work last time. But

56:48

they thought it is a hit, and they needed a hit.

56:51

You know, they were in their 30s now. The clock

56:53

was ticking. So

56:56

they ended up recording and putting it out on

56:58

their 1982 sophomore album,

57:00

Picture This. And

57:03

as a single, it became a top 10 hit.

57:07

So it had been a pretty long journey, but after plugging away

57:09

for about 12 years in bands,

57:11

Huey was an overnight success.

57:14

Wow. Mutt,

57:16

as a bit of a recording industry legend,

57:18

worked with Axlok, ACDC, Def Leppard, The Cars,

57:21

Britney Spears, The Cores, Maroon 5, Flady

57:23

Gaga. He

57:25

produced ACDC's Highway to Hell and Back in

57:27

Black. You also mentioned The Cores.

57:29

Yeah. I

57:32

think we understand the caliber that we're working with.

57:34

The Cores. The Cores. Yeah. That

57:37

guy who applied to be the brother in that

57:39

band, he would have had to go through a

57:41

lot of auditions. Yeah. So

57:43

MTV was pretty young at the time. Less

57:47

than a year old. And they made a pretty

57:49

goofy film clip and they got a lot of

57:51

play, which probably helped propel them a

57:53

bit. According

57:56

to Lewis, the label wanted to do this really

57:58

serious video, so they hired an advertising guy. who

58:00

was a fashion guy who dressed the set up

58:02

in pastel colors and dressed us up in mass

58:04

matching pastels and a lot of makeup and shot

58:07

the video all day long hard

58:09

two weeks later we went to see the rough

58:12

cart and everybody was there the record company us

58:14

and the video company probably about 30 people the

58:16

director turned off the lights and plays the video

58:18

and my heart sank it was just horrible there

58:20

was no direction there was no reason for this

58:22

guy to be singing off into the distance this

58:24

is a video where we're all in bed singing

58:27

to the girl for some reason that's

58:29

a weird clip but it's sort of goofy fun yeah

58:32

it rings a bell but he really doesn't

58:34

like it and he apparently he's like oh

58:37

this is awful and then it stops and

58:39

everyone gives it a standing ovation he's

58:42

like yeah I guess no one knows what

58:44

they're doing because this sucks but if they're

58:46

happy with this we're gonna make our own

58:48

videos from now on and they made a

58:50

lot of real fun goofy videos you know

58:52

yeah right there's that classic one where they're

58:54

all buried up to their necks in the

58:56

sand that's funny that's great stuff

58:58

yeah I imagine you

59:01

don't need to you can watch it in this video fun

59:04

fact just pending the

59:06

woman in that first video you

59:09

know the the love interest was

59:11

William Shatner's daughter Elizabeth Shatner it's

59:13

not that interesting but it

59:15

is very fun oh 100%

59:18

that's the most fun thing I ever heard but it's not

59:20

interesting according to encyclopedia.com they

59:22

broke through as headliners with the 1983 album

59:25

Sports most of the tracks

59:27

were written by Lewis or other band members and

59:30

yeah it had so many hits apparently Lewis

59:32

again before this album they're like we were

59:34

lucky to get through that last one and

59:36

we sold about ten times the amount of

59:38

the first one which bombed but it still

59:40

isn't a big enough hit to sustain

59:43

us in the industry we need this

59:45

album to be huge we

59:47

need these songs to get played on radio so it's basically

59:49

like we're writing every song

59:51

designed to be a hit song

59:54

which is like pretty wild idea like

59:56

you know what we should do we should just

59:58

write an album of hits. Wow. And

1:00:01

they genuinely try to do that. They're the first people to ever

1:00:03

do that. Yeah. And like,

1:00:06

it's what happened, you know, nearly like so many

1:00:08

of the songs became top 10 hits.

1:00:11

Why doesn't everybody do that? Why are so many albums

1:00:13

got a couple of tracks you just skip? Yeah.

1:00:15

Like when you write an ego, I'm still gonna write

1:00:17

a couple album tracks. I don't want another hit. I've

1:00:19

got too many hits. This one won't be played on

1:00:21

radio, but that's all right. I can't play them all

1:00:24

live. Yeah. Yeah. Can't be bothered. But also like, you

1:00:26

know, that's basically going, I don't, you know, I don't.

1:00:28

These none of these are really us necessarily

1:00:30

what we want to do. These are just made

1:00:33

for the broadest appeal possible. So,

1:00:35

yeah, they were top 10 hits with Heart and

1:00:37

Soul. I want a new drug, Heart of Rock

1:00:39

and Roll, and if this is it. And

1:00:42

they won a Grammy Award for Heart of Rock and

1:00:44

Roll. Wow. So

1:00:46

it was just a huge smash hit record. Anything

1:00:49

is what, late 30s by now? Yeah, mid 30s. Yeah.

1:00:52

Moving into his mid to late 30s. OK.

1:00:54

Good time, my friends. Good to know. We're

1:00:57

approaching, we're early to mid. Yeah. So I've

1:00:59

got a couple of years left to come

1:01:01

with my number one hit with my Grammy.

1:01:03

When you're in mid. Yeah.

1:01:05

OK. And then late, you can just

1:01:07

kind of peter out. Yeah. Probably late

1:01:09

services is in his mid 30s, but

1:01:12

he looked, he probably looked older. OK.

1:01:14

And you look younger. OK. So this could

1:01:16

work out well. This is looking good for you. And

1:01:19

I look just right. I mean,

1:01:21

he also looked like super handsome, older

1:01:23

though. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:26

So I don't know. I don't know if that's that balance

1:01:29

out. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I

1:01:31

think it still kind of works out in Dave's

1:01:33

favor. Yeah. Thank you. And

1:01:35

Cyclopedic continues. The group's next album,

1:01:38

Four, was greeted with high expectations.

1:01:41

It also produced top 40 hits like Stuck

1:01:43

With You and Hip To Be Square. Apparently,

1:01:46

Lou, like he kind of regrets

1:01:49

that he sang that song in the first

1:01:51

person. It's funny knowing his backstory

1:01:53

now. Because it's all about he

1:01:55

initially had written it all about like he

1:01:58

goes to work or what I can't remember the lyrics. But

1:02:00

you know, he's keeping a balance of the

1:02:02

hype. He does all this. He's

1:02:04

hip to B square. But he ended

1:02:06

up like in the end being like, nah, it's sort

1:02:08

of funny. People get it. I'll do it from my

1:02:11

perspective. I do this, I do that. And but it

1:02:13

became like that was kind of the

1:02:15

beginning of the end for them being mainstream popular.

1:02:17

People, you know, giving them shit a bit. You

1:02:20

know, it's like how uncool. They think it's

1:02:22

cool to be square. That's not cool. So,

1:02:26

yeah, he talks about sometimes like I kind of

1:02:28

regret not keeping it in the third

1:02:30

person. Around

1:02:32

that same time, they contributed two

1:02:34

songs to the film Back to

1:02:37

the Future, previous topic, including the

1:02:39

chart topping Power of Love, which

1:02:41

earned an Oscar nomination for Best Song of 1986. Wow.

1:02:47

And he actually had an uncredited cameo

1:02:49

in that where he played like again

1:02:51

like a dork, but he was like

1:02:53

a Battle of the Bands judge.

1:02:56

And his line was Marty

1:02:59

McFly, Michael J Fox is

1:03:02

shredding a version of a Huey

1:03:04

Lewis song on guitar. And

1:03:06

here we go. Stop, stop. It's

1:03:09

just too damn loud. Bit

1:03:12

of fun. No, that's

1:03:14

a lot of fun. Big fan

1:03:16

of that. But yeah, skipping

1:03:18

over the successful period, you know, they're on top

1:03:20

of the world. Yeah, I don't want to hear

1:03:22

about all the good stuff. But to help illustrate

1:03:24

how popular he was at the time, do you

1:03:26

know what a Q score is? I

1:03:29

hadn't really heard of this. It's a number measurement. Apparently, it

1:03:31

used to be a big deal. It

1:03:34

measures the familiarity and appeal of a brand

1:03:36

or a celebrity or whatever. And in the

1:03:38

mid 80s at this time, apparently Coca-Cola went

1:03:40

to him and offered him a bunch of

1:03:42

money to do an ad and said, you

1:03:44

currently have the highest Q score in the

1:03:47

whole country. Like, wow. Higher

1:03:49

than I don't name someone. The

1:03:51

Queen. Higher than her. The most

1:03:53

recognisable. And likeable as well.

1:03:55

Familiarity and appeal. So like

1:03:57

currently, I believe Tom Hanks.

1:04:00

and has been for quite a while is like

1:04:02

the highest or one of the highest. If

1:04:04

you know that kind of idea, everyone knows it. And pretty

1:04:07

much everyone likes it. And Nick generally liked it. Yeah.

1:04:10

Yeah, your Tom Hanks is a good one. So

1:04:12

yeah, he turned back Coke and he said, I regret

1:04:14

that. I should have just done it. He's like, we're

1:04:16

making good money. I didn't want to sell out. I

1:04:19

don't want to look like I'm selling out for

1:04:21

the money. And he's like, bet over the coming

1:04:23

years, everyone did. So I wish I just went

1:04:25

and took the money. He

1:04:27

also was one of the solo singers in the

1:04:30

smash hit charity single, We Are The World. Have

1:04:33

you seen that? Dokker came out early this year? No.

1:04:36

No, I haven't watched it. I think it's on Netflix.

1:04:38

I watch it. Yeah, it's slow, but it's interesting. There's

1:04:41

a lot of, you know, footage from the time, which is

1:04:43

pretty cool. But the lineup is

1:04:45

wild. So he, not

1:04:47

everyone got to sing a solo, but he got the late

1:04:49

call up when Prince fell through. Fell

1:04:52

through a wall. Fell through a wall. Which

1:04:54

is weird. Normally you fall through a floor. I

1:04:57

can't find, just trying to say I

1:04:59

said wall. Fell through a wall. When

1:05:01

Prince fell through a wall. That's the kind of

1:05:03

thing he went flying from him. Maybe

1:05:05

he can fall through a wall. Yeah, if you fall

1:05:08

sideways. Yeah, you can fall sideways. But off a balcony,

1:05:10

into a wall. Into a wall. And

1:05:12

then through the wall. Yeah. How's

1:05:15

this for a list of names who

1:05:17

are all in the room with him

1:05:19

also singing solos? Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder,

1:05:21

Paul Simon, Kenny Rogers, Tina Turner, Billy

1:05:23

Joel, Michael Jackson, Diana Ross, Dionne Warwick,

1:05:25

Willie Nelson, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan and

1:05:27

Ray Charles. That's amazing. I don't

1:05:30

know any of those names. I'm young. Apparently

1:05:34

Willie Nelson asked him, he's like, oh, we should

1:05:36

play golf sometime. And Bob Dylan came up and

1:05:38

said, you're talking about golf? That's ridiculous. And

1:05:41

Huey said, your last album was

1:05:43

ridiculous. Say that to

1:05:45

Bob Dylan. Bit of fun. Bit

1:05:47

of fun. Bit of fun. Sucks

1:05:51

the fuck in, Bob Dylan. If

1:05:54

you do watch it, there's some just just

1:05:56

look for Bob Dylan's face or even if you

1:05:58

don't watch it, look at clips of. Bob Dylan

1:06:01

in the chorus like they're all standing on the

1:06:03

wall and he just looks so confused. It's really

1:06:05

fun. Why is he so confused? He's

1:06:07

just like, you know, everyone

1:06:09

thinks, and he's like, you know,

1:06:12

he just like, it looks

1:06:14

like he's thinking, why am I here? You can't

1:06:16

put Bob Dylan in a chorus. No, it doesn't

1:06:18

feel like you're playing to his strength. No,

1:06:21

doesn't feel like he'd fit. Anyway,

1:06:23

and I say it sounded mean spirited, but he

1:06:25

was obviously just mucking around with the legendary Bob

1:06:27

Dylan. We had to be in the room with

1:06:30

him. Fuck him. Get the fuck out of

1:06:32

here. Fuck him. He said later,

1:06:34

or quite recently he said of the

1:06:36

night, it was an amazing night. I

1:06:38

knew that evening that this was the

1:06:40

career event of my life. Forty years later,

1:06:42

it still is. Wow. Yeah, he's

1:06:44

just so nice. I really love listening to him

1:06:46

talk in interviews. I believe there's

1:06:48

a story you've shared before. I've

1:06:51

tried to. He tells

1:06:53

it a lot better than me. So just find him telling

1:06:56

it. On that documentary, I think he... Oh,

1:06:58

really? Because he... I

1:07:01

was confused between Live Aid and whatever

1:07:04

this is. Where the world was.

1:07:06

Where the world. And you

1:07:08

did it... I think Jess wasn't even there. No, it

1:07:10

was Yume and Zamit from Dance Pants. And yeah, Matt

1:07:12

didn't... At the Dance Pants studio. He filled up to

1:07:15

this story and then sort of forgot the ending. I

1:07:17

can remember the end. It was all set up and

1:07:19

no pay off, but I realized that the story is

1:07:21

not that good. He just tells it with such charisma

1:07:23

and he's so excited to tell it. And he's selling

1:07:26

a first-hand account of this thing. So

1:07:28

that makes it great. Me retelling

1:07:30

it, even if I nailed it, wouldn't

1:07:32

be worth saying. But I didn't even

1:07:34

nail it. You couldn't remember it. No.

1:07:38

Through the 80s, well, he continued

1:07:40

to play Home moniker on a bunch of

1:07:42

different albums, really diverse stuff like Bruce Hornsby's,

1:07:44

you know, Things Will Never

1:07:47

Be The Same, Ditalin, Ditalin, Ditalin. Oh,

1:07:49

yeah. He's on that. That's

1:07:51

just the way it is. Yes, that is on. They

1:07:53

played on with Hank Williams Jr. I

1:07:56

think he covered a Hank Williams Senior

1:07:58

song on sports. the final track on sports. And

1:08:02

even previous do go on topic, Jimmy Barnes.

1:08:04

Oh, wow. He played on Freight Train Heart,

1:08:06

which is pretty fun. That's

1:08:08

pretty cool. And how Jimmy? And

1:08:10

how Jimmy, let's try it. Sadly,

1:08:13

in 1987, Huey suddenly lost

1:08:15

all his hearing in his right ear. So

1:08:18

he's like right at the peak of his fame. And

1:08:20

he later told Rolling Stone, I felt like I'd been

1:08:22

out in a swimming pool and my ear was full.

1:08:24

I couldn't shake it out or pop my ears. I

1:08:26

went to all kinds of doctors and an EMT. And

1:08:29

they finally said to me, get used to it. I said,

1:08:31

get used to it. I'm a musician. I need this. Unfortunately,

1:08:34

yeah. Interesting.

1:08:36

The doctor said it was

1:08:39

unlikely it would ever return. But he was

1:08:41

sort of hopefully said,

1:08:43

acts like Brian Wilson have

1:08:46

a similar thing, can only hear out of one ear. And

1:08:49

yeah, eventually

1:08:51

he was diagnosed with Meniere's disease,

1:08:54

which according to Huey, is a

1:08:56

syndrome based on symptoms. They

1:08:58

don't know what's causing it. If you've got fullness in your ear,

1:09:01

it feels like your ear is full. You

1:09:03

get vertigo, bad tinnitus, or

1:09:06

tinnitus. I don't know how to pronounce

1:09:08

it. But then they call it

1:09:10

Meniere's disease. But they don't really know what it

1:09:12

actually is. So they don't know how to treat

1:09:14

it. Yeah, right. It's just like, oh, this stuff.

1:09:16

You treat the symptoms, not the actual things. They

1:09:18

don't know how to treat it. And he's like

1:09:20

day to day, it can be all

1:09:22

the way up to OK. But at

1:09:25

the worst, it's debilitating. And he can't hear. And

1:09:27

he just has to lie down, the vertigo is

1:09:29

so bad. Yeah, vertigo is pretty full on. Yeah,

1:09:33

but Lewis adjusted to life with one ear.

1:09:35

And he went about his life and career.

1:09:40

Like I sort of said before, the follow ups

1:09:42

from Sports and 4 weren't

1:09:44

as big a hit. But the next

1:09:46

five albums are all chartered in the

1:09:48

US. Never sold as much. Back

1:09:51

to the Future, like I mentioned, is probably the film

1:09:53

you most associate with Huey's work. But

1:09:56

maybe also American Psycho. You've

1:09:58

already seen that. classic scene in it

1:10:03

where this is Pauli Poisso writing for

1:10:05

Grunge. The film version of Brett Easton

1:10:07

Ellis' American Psycho came out in 2000

1:10:10

and like the book, it wasn't

1:10:12

shy of showing Patrick Bateman, who played

1:10:14

by Christian Bale, his love

1:10:16

for Huey Lewis and the News. And he's

1:10:19

in it. He's a, you know, he's a

1:10:21

murdering psycho, including from America. Oh,

1:10:24

okay. And it includes a scene

1:10:26

where an unhinged Bateman delivers a

1:10:28

speech about Lewis' music before dispatching

1:10:30

with a professional rival played by

1:10:33

Jared Leto with an axe. I

1:10:36

have seen that. Yeah. In part, the scene goes like

1:10:38

this. Do you like Huey Lewis and

1:10:40

the News? And he replies,

1:10:42

they're okay. And then

1:10:45

Bateman goes, their early work is a little

1:10:47

too new way for my taste. But when

1:10:50

sports came out in 83, I think they

1:10:52

really came into their own, commercially and artistically.

1:10:54

The whole album has a clear, crisp sound

1:10:56

and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that

1:10:59

really gives the songs a big boost. He's

1:11:01

been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think

1:11:03

Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense

1:11:06

of humor. And he's doing

1:11:08

this speech while he's like putting

1:11:10

down newspaper, he's putting on a raincoat and

1:11:13

his victim goes, is that a raincoat? And

1:11:16

Bateman goes, yes, it is. In

1:11:18

87, Huey released this for

1:11:20

their most accomplished album. I think they're undisputed

1:11:22

masterpieces, hip to be square. The songs so

1:11:25

catchy, most people probably don't listen to the

1:11:27

lyrics, but they should, because it's

1:11:29

not just about the pleasures of conformity and the

1:11:31

importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about

1:11:33

the band itself. And then he raises the axe

1:11:36

and kills it. Classic

1:11:38

scene. Apparently the author,

1:11:40

Brett Eason Ellis, since said he

1:11:42

feels a bit of regret. He feels a bit bad about

1:11:44

it. He's like, they weren't my favorite band. I was more

1:11:46

of a Bruce Springsteen guy, but I

1:11:48

didn't think they really deserve to be shadowed like

1:11:51

that. He said,

1:11:53

I like them more than the implied criticism that's

1:11:55

in that text. But despite the book and the

1:11:57

film taking the piss, Lewis is apparently quite happy.

1:11:59

to be associated with it and has even

1:12:02

played the killer in a funny or die

1:12:04

parody version of the scene. Ah. Yeah,

1:12:07

the other movie associated with Huey

1:12:09

is maybe Ghostbusters. As the

1:12:11

story goes, both Lindsay Buckingham and Huey were

1:12:13

approached to come up with the theme song

1:12:15

for the movie, but they both declined. Lindsay

1:12:18

Buckingham from... Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac, previous

1:12:20

topic. Yeah. In the

1:12:22

end, Ray Parker Jr stepped up and

1:12:24

wrote its smash hit theme. Na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh,

1:12:27

I would have told you that with Huey Lewis.

1:12:30

Well, there you go. That was a good reason because

1:12:32

it sounds like Huey Lewis and the new song

1:12:35

and in particular sounds a lot

1:12:37

like their song that came out

1:12:39

a couple months before called I Want a New Drug. According

1:12:43

to Legend Note, the now defunct magazine premiere

1:12:45

wrote that the film's producers admitted in 2004

1:12:47

that they used the song I Want a

1:12:49

New Drug as the temporary background music in

1:12:51

certain scenes, including a clip they sent to

1:12:54

Parker for inspiration. Parker

1:12:56

says, I wasn't copying it at all, but

1:12:58

it seems like either that's not

1:13:00

true or he just... What

1:13:02

do you call it? Like, absorbed it subconsciously. Subconsciously,

1:13:04

yeah. So it's very unlikely to be a coincidence.

1:13:07

Anyway, they ended up getting sued

1:13:09

over it and they

1:13:11

set out of court in a deal, but

1:13:13

it put a gag clause on it, so

1:13:16

they've never really talked about it. Apart

1:13:19

from once, in 2001, according to Mental

1:13:21

Floss, VH1's Behind

1:13:23

the Music series had an interview with Huey

1:13:25

where he said, the offensive part was not

1:13:27

so much that Ray Parker Jr. had ripped

1:13:29

off this song. It was kind of

1:13:32

symbolic of an industry that wants something. They wanted our

1:13:34

wave and they wanted to buy it. But

1:13:36

we were like, it's not for sale. But in

1:13:38

the end, I suppose they were right

1:13:40

because basically with the settlement, they did buy it.

1:13:42

You know, they paid you to have it. They

1:13:45

just, you know, it's like, what's that saying?

1:13:47

Asked for forgiveness rather than permission or

1:13:49

whatever. Another

1:13:51

nailed space by me. Yeah,

1:13:54

that's true. So, yeah, so excited

1:13:56

with these films musically. He's also done bits

1:13:58

and pieces of acting over it. of the

1:14:00

years, including in Robert Altman's critically acclaimed

1:14:02

film Shortcuts and also the 2000 film

1:14:05

Jewettes in which his cover of

1:14:07

Cruisin with Gweneth Paltrow became another

1:14:09

one here. Oh, it was

1:14:11

him. Yeah, cool. He also appeared in very

1:14:13

severe shows. I didn't realise this, including Just

1:14:15

Shoot Me, a few episodes of One Tree

1:14:17

Hill, The King of Queens and The Blacklist,

1:14:19

which was only a few years ago. Oh

1:14:21

my God. They're all very different

1:14:23

shows. Yeah. Yeah. Jumping

1:14:26

to 2018, this is another little sad bit, well, quite a

1:14:28

sad bit. The

1:14:30

band was still playing, still love music. He was

1:14:33

like, I'm kind of... He wasn't

1:14:35

that upset about the band's popularity.

1:14:38

He's just like, I just wanted to be in a band that

1:14:40

can sustain a living and that's what we do. We

1:14:42

just like playing as a band. And as a

1:14:44

band member, it's pretty consistent. Yeah, there's a couple

1:14:47

of changeovers, a couple guys that died and one

1:14:49

got into some trouble with the cops, I think.

1:14:51

I think the guy with like, you see in

1:14:53

all the clips and stuff, he's always just got

1:14:55

a cigarette hanging out his mouth, even

1:14:57

in like underwater scenes. That's very funny stuff. Anyway, he got

1:15:00

in trouble with the cops. I think he might have. I

1:15:02

think the bad boy. Really? Wow. Huge

1:15:05

shock here. Geez, I hope they don't sue if

1:15:07

that's not true. Allegedly. Allegedly.

1:15:11

Huey, not truey in the Louis. No, that wasn't

1:15:13

anything. So anyway, jumping

1:15:16

to 2018 and so

1:15:18

he's still been touring the whole time, but

1:15:20

sadly, yeah, his health issues got even

1:15:22

worse. In January of that year, his

1:15:24

other ear went. And brutally,

1:15:27

it happened on his way to the stage, going

1:15:29

to perform with the news. Like he's literally walking

1:15:31

out to plan. He's like, he's hoping he's just

1:15:33

sort of shake it off. Go

1:15:35

ahead and do an interview with

1:15:37

Andy Green. He

1:15:40

said he hoped things would improve once he got

1:15:42

on the stage, but when the band kicked into

1:15:44

the opening song, the sound only got worse, saying,

1:15:47

I thought the bass amp had blown a speaker.

1:15:49

I just heard this horrible noise and I couldn't

1:15:51

find pitch or even hear myself. It was an

1:15:53

absolute nightmare. The worst thing, just horrible. So he

1:15:57

was super depressed.

1:16:00

Lois Abb, for a while he went to

1:16:02

every specialist, tried every treatment, all sorts of

1:16:04

different things, diets and you know, tried anything.

1:16:07

But yeah, nothing helped and he was absolutely

1:16:09

shattered. And of course the symptoms

1:16:11

are pretty dis-dabilitating in one ear but now he's

1:16:13

got it in both. You

1:16:16

know, the vertigo, the tinnitus and all the

1:16:18

rest. But Green writes with the help of

1:16:20

his children, he had a couple of kids

1:16:22

for him and close friends he slowly pulled

1:16:24

himself out of his misery saying, turns out

1:16:26

you can get used to almost anything. He

1:16:29

has said that his kids, his

1:16:31

relationship with his kids is

1:16:34

really strong. He felt like, though

1:16:37

he loved his parents, it felt like

1:16:39

they parented him until really up to about 12

1:16:41

or 13. Yeah. And

1:16:44

they were like, you're on your own. Yeah, whereas

1:16:46

he's like maintained a really close relationship with him.

1:16:48

He's like, they're my best friends and stuff like

1:16:50

that, which I don't know. Depending on the

1:16:52

day, I think Jess would even think he was real cool

1:16:54

or real lame. It's pretty lame. It's

1:16:58

that day. Try

1:17:01

again tomorrow, Huey. He

1:17:05

also realised his condition was

1:17:07

even more complicated than he originally thought. Some

1:17:09

days he was essentially deaf but other days

1:17:11

he heard well enough to engage in conversations.

1:17:14

He created a scale of one to ten

1:17:16

to explain it to others. Ten is

1:17:18

what he'll never get to again. That's what he

1:17:20

was before it first happened. And

1:17:23

then he's like a five. I can hear

1:17:25

speech fine with hearing aids. Under

1:17:27

a three, I can't even hear the phone ring. But

1:17:30

he's just not able to sing anymore. So

1:17:32

he's basically at the retire from the music

1:17:35

biz, which is so brutal.

1:17:38

Yeah, because listening to music, he

1:17:40

can listen to conversation, but music is

1:17:43

just impossible. Because

1:17:45

there's different harmonics, overtones, undertones.

1:17:49

You might hear the bass going bump,

1:17:51

bump, bump, but I just hear crunchy

1:17:53

static. Yeah, wow. He says,

1:17:55

I fight for pitch and I can't find it. If

1:17:57

I can't find pitch, I can't sing. It's horrible. The

1:18:00

timing of this was particularly cruel because when

1:18:03

it happened, him and the band

1:18:05

were working on their first album

1:18:07

of original songs since 2001's

1:18:09

Plant B. So they're working on like

1:18:11

17 years or something. Yeah, wow.

1:18:14

But luckily they had recorded seven songs prior to

1:18:16

2018 and were able to release that as the

1:18:18

band's final album in 2020. The

1:18:21

album was called Weather. See what

1:18:23

it's on there? The band's called The News. Their

1:18:25

big album's called Sports. Final album's Weather. New Sport

1:18:27

Weather. That's great. That's a bit of fun. Ask

1:18:30

me what I think of that today. What do

1:18:32

you think of that today? Love it. Don't

1:18:34

ask it, don't worry. It's not even day to day.

1:18:36

It's minute to minute. Yeah, I'm

1:18:39

exciting is what I'm hearing. And

1:18:41

finally, the last thing I'll talk about because he is back in the

1:18:43

news. Oh my God, I didn't mean that. And

1:18:46

but not the weather. Because

1:18:49

he's just launched or helped

1:18:51

launch a Broadway jukebox musical

1:18:54

called The Heart of Rock and Roll,

1:18:56

which is inspired by the chart-topping anthems

1:18:58

of Huey Lewis and the News.

1:19:01

Apparently the story sounds so weird. The

1:19:03

story revolves around a failed

1:19:05

rocker who winds up having to choose

1:19:07

between a resurrected music career and an

1:19:09

executive job at a cardboard company. This

1:19:14

sounds like one of your questions from Who Knew

1:19:16

It with Matt Stewart. And that is a fake

1:19:18

movie. I think I should. That

1:19:20

should be a question. What is the plot? What is

1:19:23

the plot of? Yeah, that's good. I'm

1:19:25

going to maybe do a Broadway musical. I'll try and record this.

1:19:27

I'll record The Next Who Knew It before this comes out. So

1:19:30

give every, you know, all guest listeners a

1:19:32

do go on. Yeah, of course, that'd ruin

1:19:34

it. So he can have a great rock

1:19:36

career or work at the cardboard shop. Yeah.

1:19:39

And I don't want to. What's it going to be? The

1:19:41

opening night was a star starter affair. Mark

1:19:44

Short was there, Michael J. Fox and the

1:19:46

surviving members of the news. How

1:19:48

many doobie brothers? Oh,

1:19:51

I think probably a lot. The extended doobie

1:19:53

family. Go to the

1:19:55

Rolling Stone. The Louis Renaissance doesn't end there either. Two of

1:19:57

his songs, The Power of Love and Back in Time, are

1:19:59

all also part of the current hit Broadway

1:20:01

show based on the Back to the Future

1:20:03

film franchise. And for pop

1:20:06

culture nostalgia, just like I was talking about before, one of

1:20:08

the must see docs of the year is the greatest night

1:20:10

in pop about the recording of the 1985 charity

1:20:13

single We Are the World and he's one of the

1:20:15

handful of talking heads who talk about

1:20:17

it in the current day. Just

1:20:20

a final paragraph here. Asked by a journalist how

1:20:22

he's learnt to deal with his health issues, he

1:20:24

replied, well, deal with

1:20:26

them as best as you can. You remind yourself

1:20:28

there are a lot of people out there. Much

1:20:30

worse off than I am. I have two great

1:20:32

children who won't let me feel sorry for myself.

1:20:34

And the musical has been a huge therapy for

1:20:36

me. Nice. Yeah,

1:20:40

it's a real roller coaster of

1:20:42

a story. This is an amazing laugh.

1:20:44

Yeah, amazing. Pretty hectic

1:20:46

hardships. Yep. Throughout. But he just seemed like,

1:20:49

I mean, obviously he's had his ups and

1:20:51

downs. That's also a lyric from one of

1:20:53

his songs. They've had their

1:20:55

ins and outs. Do you

1:20:58

think that people who started listening to this because I did

1:21:00

a Pantera episode are going to be thinking I'm pretty sick

1:21:02

right now. Yeah. So the

1:21:04

thing his life is way more complicated

1:21:06

and like very cool than

1:21:08

you would probably think. Totally. And it

1:21:10

like it. Yeah. On and off, there

1:21:12

probably almost been a punchline and they

1:21:14

still don't really get like

1:21:17

proper respect in the music. It's like because it's

1:21:19

pretty easy in the end to write an album

1:21:21

full of hits on. Everyone's

1:21:24

done. Yeah. So. I mean, if you wanted

1:21:26

to, you have. Yeah, that's what you

1:21:28

were. If you wanted

1:21:30

like commercial success from

1:21:32

your music and you wanted to write a

1:21:34

bunch of songs that lots of people like.

1:21:36

And everyone's been the most famous and likes

1:21:38

person in America on time. Yeah, obviously anybody

1:21:40

could do it. Yeah, isn't

1:21:42

it so funny? Like, yeah, easy.

1:21:44

But we're talking about art

1:21:47

man. Yeah, they're just following a formula.

1:21:49

But yeah, he was like really put

1:21:51

in the years. That's right.

1:21:53

Touring, recording, grinding it out. And also

1:21:55

played on so many cool bands

1:21:58

work as well. And they obviously. I just see like

1:22:00

working with him. I think he's just, he seems like

1:22:02

he's just a guy that would be great to hang

1:22:04

out with and whatnot. Just a great

1:22:06

hang. Great hang. I think that's the other part

1:22:09

of the Q-test. What

1:22:11

kind of hang would they be? What do you want to hang with them?

1:22:14

I want to hang with Angsy. Do you? Hang

1:22:16

with Angs. Yeah, you don't want to hang with Angs? Yeah,

1:22:19

probably. Yeah. He seems alright.

1:22:22

I guess. That's really cool.

1:22:25

Who's the most alright person in America right now? Oh,

1:22:29

that's great. Because you know over the years Matt and I have

1:22:32

spoke a little bit, joked about Hugh Craig the third

1:22:34

or something. It's just such a fun name. I mean

1:22:36

that was the inn. I'm like, yes. I

1:22:38

want to know more about Hugh. But also his

1:22:40

laugh is so, like you hear the name Hugh

1:22:42

Craig the third, you know about the

1:22:45

peak of Hughie Lewis and the news and you

1:22:47

go, and prep school? Yes. And you

1:22:49

draw a straight line through all of that and you

1:22:51

think this guy was just a pretentious sort of rich

1:22:53

kid. Exactly. Always had everything you

1:22:56

wanted. Yeah. Never really done anything

1:22:58

interesting. No hard tip. Yeah,

1:23:00

you look into him and you're like, whoa, that's

1:23:02

a cool laugh. Yeah.

1:23:05

And if people want to hear more, we

1:23:07

did do an episode of Listen Now, our

1:23:10

least listened to Dookuwon

1:23:14

Podcasts, about the

1:23:18

album Sports I did with my

1:23:21

cousin Sam Tongan. So yeah, I think it

1:23:23

was the first episode of season two. So

1:23:26

yeah, season two, episode one, if you want to hear us,

1:23:28

we go through track by track and I

1:23:31

can't remember what we say, but I imagine I'd say

1:23:33

some of these things and I say how much I

1:23:35

love him. Love you, Hughie. Love

1:23:37

you, Hughie. Love you, Hughie. Love you,

1:23:39

Hughie. I want to go live. Dave, you've

1:23:41

got to, I think, get out of

1:23:43

my sight because I can't. I

1:23:45

can't right now. I've done so many podcasts

1:23:48

today that you've had enough. You've

1:23:50

had your fill of Dave Warnocky. Yeah. Is that

1:23:52

all right if you go? It may ingest to

1:23:54

do everyone's favorite section of the show. Yeah, because

1:23:56

Jess and I, we recently did it together with

1:23:58

the two of us. Sometimes it's nice to

1:24:00

just have a bit of one-on-one time with your friend and I

1:24:02

get that that I've been asked to fuck off So,

1:24:05

um politely. Yeah politely So I won't be here

1:24:07

for the patreon section, but I do want the

1:24:10

patreon people to know that I love them That's

1:24:12

nice. That go for everyone. I'm gonna mention.

1:24:14

Yes, all of them. Wow. Okay, you're gonna regret

1:24:16

that and you'll never guess What band I've booked

1:24:18

for the trippedage club. Oh, do you

1:24:20

want to join up with a piece of paper over? Yeah,

1:24:26

holy moly Really

1:24:28

yes, we got him that is big

1:24:30

based on what I've just said about

1:24:32

how someone can't play music anymore This

1:24:34

is really big Thank

1:24:37

you so much Dave. Thank you. And anyone

1:24:40

a plug before you go My

1:24:42

podcast to go on sometimes on the I'm on

1:24:44

the whole episode other times I get asked to

1:24:46

leave No,

1:24:49

dad's gonna go to work with this. I promise that

1:24:51

this episode wouldn't go as long as this but in

1:24:53

the end it did But

1:24:55

we've had it. We've had a lot of fun today. I've

1:24:57

had a lot of fun. We've had our ups and downs

1:25:00

Yes, we've had our ins and outs. I

1:25:02

wish I knew some more of the lyrics my

1:25:04

dad used to just He'd

1:25:08

go through the JB high-five discount bins

1:25:11

and he bring home best of album So as a

1:25:13

kid, he brought home the best of Huey Lewis at

1:25:15

one point and I yeah few

1:25:18

times just became obsessed with an album All

1:25:21

sorts of it's funny. It just had every track from

1:25:23

sports on it. It was pretty sports heavy sports

1:25:26

and for But yeah,

1:25:28

it was yeah also like another

1:25:30

classic I think there was some

1:25:32

funny line he said at some point like self

1:25:34

deprecating as well He's like someone

1:25:36

about like the rolling. Yeah, he said cuz rolling stone

1:25:38

never really locked him like given bad reviews and stuff

1:25:40

He said I think we

1:25:42

were rolling stones favors favorite band since

1:25:45

Toto Which dad

1:25:47

also had the best of? But

1:25:49

he also had like, you know Neil Young and cool

1:25:52

stuff as well. I promise. Alright Dave fuck off, please

1:25:57

You just do it we'll start hey Jess, are

1:25:59

you ready for Everyone's favorite part of the show.

1:26:01

Yes. This is where we thank a few of

1:26:03

our great Patreon supporters. If you want to get

1:26:05

involved, go to patreon.com/do go on pod. The first,

1:26:07

I mean, you get all sorts of things. You

1:26:09

have to vote on episodes. My very next topic

1:26:11

will be voted on by the great

1:26:14

Patreon supporters. Yeah,

1:26:17

votes. What else? You get tickets,

1:26:20

access early. You get discount codes,

1:26:22

all these sorts of things. But if you're on the Sydney

1:26:24

Shamburg, we get to give us a thing called a fat

1:26:27

quota question, which actually has a jingle. Go something like this.

1:26:29

Fat quota question. Dave.

1:26:35

Oh, he just snuck in the ding. Yeah. Which he never

1:26:37

forgets and just always remembers the thing. The

1:26:39

way this works is people on the Sydney Shamburg level get to

1:26:41

give us a fat quota question or a brag of

1:26:44

suggestion and I read them out. I've just got a

1:26:46

couple in today, I guess. Yeah.

1:26:52

People who are on that level, feel free to get

1:26:54

them in because we're running a little low. So

1:26:57

we'll get through a couple today. First

1:26:59

one comes from, see Dave, the

1:27:02

first one comes from Daniel Headley, AKA,

1:27:04

you also get to give yourself a

1:27:06

title. Director of Detector, Inspector and Respection,

1:27:08

reflection on whether detector

1:27:11

inspector is really fucking necessary. Why are

1:27:13

there always, why are there always coming

1:27:15

back to my house? Fuck. Well,

1:27:19

let's control that one early. We

1:27:22

got a question here. Why do these stranger

1:27:24

men keep coming into my house for five

1:27:26

minutes every six months to press a button

1:27:28

on my smoke alarm? Yeah. I

1:27:31

can do that. Leave me alone. A

1:27:33

detector inspector is a thing or just

1:27:35

an Australian thing. They make me irrationally

1:27:37

annoyed. What's something that makes you

1:27:39

irrationally annoyed or angry? Is that, I've never heard

1:27:41

of that. You haven't had any, you haven't

1:27:44

had detector inspector come to your house.

1:27:46

No. They, it's their, their property manager

1:27:48

sends them out every, probably twice a

1:27:50

year. I've never had that. And they

1:27:52

just come, they bring their little ladder.

1:27:55

They, we only have one smoke detector

1:27:57

in our entire apartment because it's small. May

1:28:00

bring it in, they check it and I. Lace?

1:28:02

I'd I wonder if. I'm.

1:28:05

Just not time when they do it or

1:28:07

something will. Yeah. Maybe. I've

1:28:09

lived in so many houses over the years.

1:28:12

And are as never happened. yeah I'm quite

1:28:14

an old man. Another saying like it's never

1:28:17

happened if the ears the property manager would

1:28:19

lane I. You. Know that

1:28:21

some sign yet so happens. There was

1:28:23

a wonder why maybe is only happens

1:28:25

in affluent suburbs. Has severe them

1:28:27

at it. This

1:28:30

man, he cites been out of

1:28:32

our money. Ace? Yeah. Ah. There

1:28:34

was anything a rent A main. So.

1:28:37

Many anything recently and noises are

1:28:39

many things to is one of

1:28:41

them someone doing half hour longer

1:28:43

on their put my said they

1:28:45

would know i'm just don't Philo

1:28:47

Donyo. Ah, that is a

1:28:49

center Six a question and you really

1:28:51

got me on that tongue to set

1:28:53

up residence irrationally. Are they I? I

1:28:56

don't like when people don't indicate to

1:28:58

change. Lions all my god yeah I

1:29:00

it when people suffer the middle, the

1:29:02

footpath, sick texts ah yes hello either.

1:29:04

Or. Yeah the group of people are

1:29:07

just spread all thought you were in the

1:29:09

whole. I. started to loudly. Complain

1:29:11

about that Aria Like real. Passive

1:29:13

aggressive. It's bulls, it's awful. Zappa nails

1:29:15

it as will he longs. And there

1:29:17

was a group of for. For.

1:29:20

A breast exam before birth has.

1:29:22

Like Walmart. I single file. Miss

1:29:24

a soft either. And this isn't like cyclists.

1:29:26

I get it because they're trying to protect

1:29:28

each other from cars. Nothing him down but

1:29:30

when had some walk as they they woke

1:29:33

his. Aunts Up

1:29:35

set up. I hear

1:29:37

the people on H wings. Behind

1:29:40

it and they can't also each other. So

1:29:42

is there any point surveying? The. Be

1:29:44

better off. The point is is being an asshole.

1:29:47

bad paypal said paypal ah yes of medusa

1:29:50

for nice as much as i guess mine

1:29:52

from he said irrational seems quite rational know

1:29:54

i get that that some level of anger

1:29:56

i get to is not to it's not

1:29:59

just fun OK, the

1:30:01

second and final one this week comes from Mr

1:30:03

Justin McCain by Lazer Seerley Game

1:30:05

and his title is Insert Matt Singing

1:30:08

Here. Interesting title. Justin has your

1:30:10

number, doesn't he? And Justin's asking

1:30:12

a question, writing, if you could eat one entree

1:30:14

only for the rest of time, what would

1:30:16

it be? For me, it would

1:30:18

be a cheese pizza. Oh.

1:30:21

Entree. Never thought of a

1:30:23

cheese pizza as an entree. Yeah,

1:30:25

I don't know what I guess a garlic

1:30:27

pizza, like a little garlic bread, garlic pizza,

1:30:29

cheese pizza. I'd have that for sure. Yeah.

1:30:31

Great answer, Justin. What, how

1:30:34

fucking is stretch entree? Could I

1:30:36

just have assorted cheeses? Yeah,

1:30:39

maybe. A

1:30:41

chiquutri. Oh, my God,

1:30:43

can I have a chiquutri? For entree every time.

1:30:47

Yeah, I'd go with like a garlic bread or like

1:30:49

a garlic pizza type thing. Yeah, that's always going to

1:30:51

hit the spot. What else? Yeah, I can't think of

1:30:53

what else would you have, soup? No,

1:30:55

I'm not having soup. Not in this kitchen that we're

1:30:57

in. No. Soup? I've

1:30:59

got a guy's coming to look at it, but it's

1:31:03

not looking good. Oh, my God. Do

1:31:05

you have the? Detector

1:31:08

inspector. The soup detector inspector. Yeah, the soup detector

1:31:10

inspector is coming and he's going to be very

1:31:12

mad at me because this soup is far too

1:31:14

hot. I think we're

1:31:16

all happy to just share the cheese pizza with

1:31:19

you. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun by me. Thanks, Justin. Thanks

1:31:21

for ordering for the table. I love that. Thank you so much,

1:31:23

Miss. Take the pressure off. Justin McCain. And

1:31:25

Daniel Headley. The next thing we like

1:31:27

to do is shout out to a

1:31:29

few of our other supporters. That

1:31:33

accent changed and I liked it.

1:31:35

Yeah, well, sort of South African,

1:31:37

but also that French bit French

1:31:39

a bit almost on front side.

1:31:42

Yeah. So the way this works, Justin,

1:31:44

we come up with a bit of a game. Yeah, I

1:31:46

think we obviously naming their band. So

1:31:48

it's the someone, someone's in the something. Yeah. Great.

1:31:51

You want to say it before. I reckon

1:31:54

just for efficiency. Yes. Do you want to

1:31:56

either read names or give band names? I'll

1:31:59

read names. My brain's working pretty

1:32:01

slow. Great. I'll just say, because I think

1:32:03

this is, this suits me well. Yes. Very

1:32:05

quick mind. I'll just, you know, smash through

1:32:08

whatever comes to mind. All right. Great. Let's

1:32:12

give it a go a couple of times. And if you need

1:32:14

it, we can get up the horse name generator. Okay. Great. Okay.

1:32:16

So first and foremost, we'd love to thank

1:32:19

from Leylor Park in New South Wales, Jack

1:32:22

Townsend and the... Gongs.

1:32:25

Love it. Okay. Yeah.

1:32:27

We can, we can smash through these. All right.

1:32:29

Great. Jack Townsend. Thanks so much for your

1:32:31

support. And your band, the Gongs. Who support you? From

1:32:34

Montana South in Victoria, where I grew up

1:32:37

as a child. Ooh. Mitchell

1:32:39

Wooton. And the Dim

1:32:41

Sims. Fantastic.

1:32:44

Okay. Mitchell Wooton and the Dim Sims. Yeah.

1:32:47

Also good at Entrez, maybe. That's

1:32:49

fun. She's Mitchell.

1:32:52

From Virginia Beach in, I

1:32:54

assume, Virginia, VA. It's

1:32:57

Tea Cup Tofu and the...

1:33:00

Pebbles. Oh, that's

1:33:02

cute. I don't mind that. I think that's... Tea Cup

1:33:04

Tofu and the Pebbles. Yeah. That's cute as shit. I

1:33:06

feel good. Love that. Tea Cup Tofu. Yeah. And

1:33:09

their fans could call themselves Pebble Heads.

1:33:11

Yeah. We're Pebble Heads. That's really cute.

1:33:14

We love Tea Cup Tofu. I follow

1:33:16

Tea Cup Tofu and the Pebbles around

1:33:18

the national tour. Next

1:33:21

from Slidell in

1:33:24

Los Angeles. No, LA.

1:33:28

Louisiana? Louisiana. Yeah, it's got to be. I was

1:33:30

like, no, Los Angeles is a place. From

1:33:33

Slidell or Sladell. Josh

1:33:36

Fay. And the

1:33:38

Fallen Leaves. Oh, that

1:33:40

poetic. That's nice. I like

1:33:42

that one very much. From Warwick

1:33:45

in Great Britain, it's Hannah

1:33:47

Albon. And the

1:33:49

Greeks. Hannah Albon and the

1:33:51

Greeks. That's sick.

1:33:54

Good stuff. OK. From Wentworth Falls

1:33:57

in New South Wales. Haley, Zena,

1:33:59

Poppy. and the jailbirds.

1:34:02

Oh, you are so good at this. Like we

1:34:04

were joking that you were going to be dog

1:34:07

shit because sometimes you have to think of

1:34:09

a word and you go, but you were

1:34:11

doing really well. It's been strange. You're closing

1:34:13

your eyes, they're just coming to you. I don't know

1:34:15

how I feel about it. Oh my God. Okay, a

1:34:17

few more. From Silver Spring in MDs

1:34:20

Maryland. No. Yeah, we

1:34:23

do this all the time. Every time. Maryland,

1:34:25

yeah. I'll look that up in a sec. It's

1:34:27

Tyler Robertson and the iceberg. Icebergs.

1:34:30

Oh my goodness gracious

1:34:32

me. Very good

1:34:34

stuff. Maryland is correct. Okay,

1:34:38

next we have from Campedown in

1:34:40

New South Wales, Brenner Dowling and

1:34:42

the... Refreshing drinks. Oh my

1:34:44

God. I mean, he just took a sip, so

1:34:46

that one felt a little more in the room,

1:34:49

but that's not bad. And finally

1:34:51

from Dallas, Texas, Marisa Kurtz

1:34:53

and the... Mystery gunman.

1:34:56

Oh! No bullshit.

1:35:02

That was impressive. That

1:35:05

was really impressive. Thank

1:35:07

you so much to Marisa, Brenner, Tyler, Hayley,

1:35:10

Hannah, Josh, Teacup, Mitchell and Jack. And the

1:35:12

last thing we need to do, Bob, need

1:35:15

to do... Need to do. The

1:35:17

next thing we need to do is

1:35:19

welcome in a few new members of the

1:35:21

Triptage Club. Actually three members to the Triptage Club. Wow.

1:35:25

So... That's fitting. Yeah,

1:35:27

this works really well. Are you all behind the bar? Yeah. Have

1:35:30

you got any drinks on or... I've got a drink special. It's

1:35:32

a cocktail. It's called Hughie Lewis

1:35:34

in the Blue. And

1:35:36

it's just all blue stuff. Oh yeah? Yeah.

1:35:39

Blue Caracao. Caracao. We

1:35:42

say it. And lemonade. Is it Blue Caracao?

1:35:45

Is that... She's

1:35:47

an actor in The Big Bang Theory. Is that

1:35:49

right? Kaylee

1:35:51

Cuoco. Oh yeah, that's right. Blue Caracao. Yeah,

1:35:53

that's right. So it was like

1:35:55

the long, long run out. And she works at

1:35:58

the cheesecake factory in that... have

1:36:00

drinks. Right. My brain is back to

1:36:02

normal speed. Yeah. I

1:36:04

figured. But it was a beautiful

1:36:06

run and we got it recorded for posterity. Oh

1:36:08

my God. So. It was the day that I got

1:36:10

tripped up by the tongue twister too. Yeah. So,

1:36:13

you know, God works in mysterious ways, doesn't he?

1:36:15

And Dave told you. Or she. You

1:36:18

told you the band he booked. Yeah.

1:36:20

He wouldn't show me the piece of

1:36:22

paper. So. It was wild. Clover. No

1:36:25

fucking way. But I'd already said,

1:36:27

Hughie can't play Hellmonica anymore. So I just

1:36:29

don't know. What are the

1:36:31

chances? It's Al Sam. Sure, but we've had dead

1:36:33

people play. So I reckon. I reckon he's going

1:36:35

to be able to play. And they're being

1:36:38

actually in a headline by Hughie Lewis in

1:36:40

the news. No way. So he's doing pulling

1:36:42

double shift. Dave, what the fuck? How does

1:36:45

he do it? And then Lizzie with Hughie

1:36:47

Lewis. No. Lizzie with Hughie Lewis. Oh my

1:36:49

God. This is too much. Yeah. I'm going

1:36:51

to have to get way more blue Caracao.

1:36:53

People are going to be going crazy. Jimmy

1:36:55

Barnes is playing with Hughie Lewis as a

1:36:57

support. Nah, that's crazy. And also that guy

1:36:59

saying, it's just the way it is. Diddle

1:37:01

in. Diddle in. Diddle in. Did

1:37:03

we explain what the Trippage Club is? No,

1:37:06

it's where you tell them. Where people

1:37:08

who have supported us for three consecutive

1:37:10

years are welcomed into the club. It's

1:37:12

a special, exclusive, really fun club. As I

1:37:15

mentioned, there's a band, there's drinks and

1:37:17

food and anything you can

1:37:19

possibly imagine. The air hockey is off limits. That's

1:37:21

for me. And if Matt is

1:37:24

at the door, he lifts up the velvet

1:37:26

rope, he welcomes you in. Normally

1:37:28

Dave hypes them up. I then hype

1:37:31

Dave up. How are we going to do it this week? How

1:37:34

do you feel? You want to play the Dave role or do

1:37:36

you want to play the me role? I'd like to play

1:37:39

the you role. You play the me role. I'll play the

1:37:41

Dave role. You play the you role. Fantastic. OK, so

1:37:44

first and foremost, are you ready? Yeah.

1:37:46

You'll be right. From, even if you want

1:37:48

to just give them bad names this time,

1:37:50

I think because you're really on a roll

1:37:52

with that. See how you go. From London,

1:37:54

please welcome in Tina. Tina, I wouldn't turn

1:37:57

you around. You come right on in

1:37:59

London. Have a Grundon. I

1:38:02

don't want to do much nature.

1:38:04

Come right London in. London in.

1:38:06

Yes. From Bristol, also in

1:38:08

Great Britain, I would love to bring in Anna

1:38:11

Wang. Bristol, I

1:38:13

will not be charging away

1:38:15

any Bristol's tonight. Anna Wang,

1:38:17

Anna come hang. Yes, isn't

1:38:20

that Phil Wang's sister? I believe it is.

1:38:22

I think. Thank you Anna. Thank

1:38:24

you Anna Wang. For three years of

1:38:26

beautiful support we love you. And finally

1:38:28

from Albuquerque, New Mexico, please welcome in

1:38:31

Nathan Swapp. I tell you what, if

1:38:33

I had my option of changing you

1:38:35

over Nathan, I never would. Welcome

1:38:38

in Nathan Swapp. Thank

1:38:42

you Nathan and Tina. Welcome into the Trippage

1:38:44

Club. Please make yourself at home. But again,

1:38:46

do not touch my air hockey table. Yeah. It's

1:38:49

a way to fucking guard Nathan. Do not touch

1:38:51

it. The velvet rope is not

1:38:53

just at the front door. It's also at the

1:38:56

door for the ice hockey table.

1:38:58

Air hockey. Oh, oh

1:39:00

no. Have you put ice on

1:39:02

it again? Oh, I didn't realise. Matt. I'm

1:39:05

like, oh, the ice hockey

1:39:07

table's thawed out again. No, it's air

1:39:10

hockey. Oh my God. I'm so

1:39:12

sorry. Oh my God. You've ruined

1:39:14

my... I'll scrape it off and make margaritas,

1:39:16

what do you think? No, I'm back in.

1:39:19

Okay. Anything else we need to tell

1:39:21

Phil before again? That they can suggest a

1:39:24

topic. Anybody can do it. Over

1:39:26

at... It's on our website, which is

1:39:28

DoGoOnPod. There's also a link in the show notes.

1:39:31

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1:39:33

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1:39:35

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1:39:39

And finally, remember to wash your butts. Oh,

1:39:41

that is such great advice. Thank you so

1:39:44

much. I recently

1:39:46

smuggled some butter in mine. The

1:39:50

cross pod call back probably in the future.

1:39:52

It's been a long day. Okay. But

1:39:56

until next week, I'll say

1:39:58

thank you and goodbye. Bye.

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