But what about the flip side of the coin. What if you have complete obedience and faith but the requested relief doesn't come? We have two realities about miracles which might seem to conflict. We have miracles which don't happen because we didn't faithfully knock or ask; and we also have miracles which don't happen even when we do seek them in faith.  Mormon and Moroni obviously did not get the divine aid they hoped, for their people and society. They were at war or hunted down most of their lives. How could they believe so strongly in miracles?

Music by Mat and Savanna Shaw "You Raise Me Up"