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trash. That.

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That the question then simply

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brought to you by bet

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three six five. So.

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This is not a Cmt question, did I'm just

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curious when we made some predictions. Yesterday.

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And. Now we've seen game One.

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Dave. I believe you said. You.

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Are you threw out a few scenarios,

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but you're leaning Nixon that? I've no.

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I. Took Nixon six out of respect for to

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said five is more likely than seven. Correct.

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That's what Isis and Rec said six you

1:00

by said sexy up you still yeah would

1:02

would stand on both of those. saw I

1:05

utterly what it'll be as of the I

1:07

stand on on that I don't going to

1:09

do. But. I feel less

1:11

confident today than I did going into the game

1:13

yesterday. Get them Ask you this. Less.

1:16

Likely. To go five? more likely to go seven,

1:18

but you feel like six as opposed the other way around.

1:21

We. Can't see ago in game seven. Near.

1:24

As it gets for. But. You'd you'd like

1:26

to stay steadfast with six? He still? yeah,

1:29

I'm going to lock in was six? Yes,

1:31

well. That. Leads me to. Obviously

1:34

next when a happy. One

1:36

Hour Series Lead Game Tomorrow. But.

1:41

What? Concerned you most about what you saw

1:43

your name on. Concerns. Is

1:45

it the lack of bench scoring?

1:47

The obvious Forty sixty three number.

1:49

The Pacers bench. Hung. On

1:52

the reserves of the next was it the

1:54

pace at which the game was played. Next.

1:56

By the way, had to get one twenty one. I

1:58

guess it when needed. Technically What? When a team

2:00

but it's got one Twenty one. And.

2:03

If you're wondering. in the Sixers series and x

2:05

o me averaged one hundred eight per game. Or.

2:09

Was. It the you'd like game

2:11

execution including the inability to then

2:13

effective in Bones Place. To

2:17

great question Rj it isn't I see what a

2:19

fantastic what I'm going to marry. Lack.

2:21

Of beds. I mean you got nothing from

2:24

your bench. It's got a you can't go

2:26

through. I wouldn't think of full series when

2:28

the opposition is is getting real productive. Been

2:30

scoring and. And. Put any points on

2:33

the boards. The events are going to marry lack of

2:35

bench. Ah, I'm.

2:38

Only caught a late game execution.

2:41

It's been an issue for numerous

2:43

games now. Last. Three games

2:45

in fact. Game Five. Game Six. In Game

2:47

One, late game execution has been a real

2:49

problem. And. I do have some concern about

2:52

the pace, but I think the pace also plays in the

2:54

next favorite little bit because. The. Indebted to

2:56

simply defense, you're getting it easier points in

2:58

the series than you did in the Philly

3:00

siri saw all trash the pace. I

3:03

would love to disagree with you. What?

3:07

By. Ten. Been going to marry the bench on

3:09

going to cuddle the late game excuse and and

3:11

I'm going to crash. The Pace is their team

3:14

that you can remember. The throws, more home run

3:16

balls. On. Least outs and

3:18

transition and the Pacers know. They. Want

3:20

to go? That's. All they want to do. And

3:22

there is no one more willing to receive one.

3:24

Most passes and over the top and yes he

3:27

says even cross back always had like a happy

3:29

like he's hiding. It's

3:31

like is highly get the other and

3:33

than a pops out. What's that Little

3:35

exists or three considered a success. They.

3:37

Turn the ball over. And the next I'll

3:39

have it like at their own keith. And then you just

3:42

see this. This like to see ball

3:44

is it world football splitting. The safety is no

3:46

be top and just falls into his arms. And

3:50

at that between the legs don't assault assault

3:52

arsenal courses. Personally, I wish I missed that

3:54

so badly Damaged her. Physical.

3:56

Game. You. Sound. effects

3:59

movies they're looking to do. They

4:01

think... Oh yeah, he's very athletic and so it

4:04

plays right into that. Yeah, but Carlisle's gonna be

4:06

okay with him, you know, leaking out, being so-so

4:08

on defense, hit some big threes,

4:10

but, you know, throw down some big dunks and give energy,

4:12

things like that. The Pacers think they're

4:14

gonna shoot better than you. We're gonna be... They

4:16

probably are. We're gonna be more official. Well, they didn't last

4:18

night. Yeah, they didn't last night. Pacers were the only team

4:20

this regular season collectively to shoot over 50%. So

4:23

to Rick's point, yes. Because they get a lot of easy

4:25

baskets and makes it much easier. But they give up a

4:27

lot of easy baskets too. They do. Lead,

4:30

Legan, points in the paint as well. And

4:32

I think they gave up the most points in the paint. I

4:34

think that's right. I also said that, yeah. Right.

4:37

They play a... if you're just a neutral, they

4:39

play a fun game, a fun brand of basketball to

4:41

watch because it's a lot of up and downs.

4:43

I agree with that. Nuggets lose

4:45

again last night. We touched on this. Defending

4:48

champs trail 0-2, which

4:50

is interesting because OKC and Dallas haven't even started their

4:52

series. I asked you... Do

4:55

they trail 0-2 or do they just trail 2-0? Well,

4:58

they're home games. Right, but they trail

5:00

2-0. I like how hard you did it.

5:02

You do you? Yeah. I

5:04

like when you give the lesser... I'm giving the... from the perspective of

5:07

the team that I was focusing on. Alright. That's

5:09

fine. They have zero wins in the series. The Dimple

5:11

have two. And they lost... and they were two home

5:13

games they lost. Yes. Not

5:16

all that close either. So last night

5:18

was a blowout. Come on, Murray. Had a nervous breakdown last

5:20

night. He threw a heating pad. He threw a heating pad.

5:22

He was done with it. I'm done.

5:24

I don't need this. I don't need this anymore.

5:27

Hey, you guys need this? Back feels great.

5:30

So... now seems like a

5:32

good time to check in. Take the temperature of

5:34

the WOLST. Cuddle very trash.

5:36

I'm sorry in advance, Dallas. You can't play in this.

5:39

Who would you take to come out of the West? Would

5:42

it be the defending champion Denver Negates? Would

5:44

it be the up 2-0 and or not

5:47

trailing 0-2 Minnesota Timberwolves? Or

5:50

would it be the young and fun

5:52

Oklahoma City Thunder? Alright. This

5:54

is very obvious to me. Yeah.

5:59

To me it is. I'm gonna marry, so you

6:01

gave me Denver mini OKC? Mm-hmm. I'm

6:04

gonna marry mini. I'm

6:06

gonna cuddle OKC out of trash Denver. Exactly

6:08

right. I actually was throwing Denver in the

6:10

mix there instead of, uh, not Denver, excuse

6:12

me, Dallas. So we're down with Denver.

6:15

We think this is ball of game, see you later. If they come

6:17

back from this, it would be pretty remarkable. If you want Murray, I

6:19

mean if you want him to play this way. If you want him

6:21

to play this way. They're down O2, RJ. They

6:23

are down O2, but they're down... Um, there's

6:26

actually precedent. Milwaukee a couple years ago was

6:28

down O2 and they got blown out in

6:30

the game too. They won the

6:32

title. So, those happen. Alright.

6:36

And they lost the first two at home, he said? I

6:39

believe they were at home, yeah. That surprises me.

6:41

I didn't think you'd both be punting and Denver.

6:43

Oh, punting. You're done. Yeah.

6:47

How many games is Denver winning the series? I

6:51

will say they win two. None.

6:56

You think they need to sweat? Mm-hmm. Wow.

6:59

They got run out of their own building. I understand that. That

7:01

might be hot tape sheet time. That is

7:03

really. Write that down. Swept?

7:06

Um, by the way, RJ, can I just add in

7:08

one little nugget here? It seems like you want to, yes.

7:10

I'd like to. Okay. You

7:12

okay with that? Yeah. Alright, you're

7:14

listening to DNR on 98.7 ESPN, WEP and FM.

7:17

Where? Where? New

7:20

York. Uh, Dave, so those first two

7:22

games that the Bucks lost? Yep. I

7:25

should have immediately remembered they were at Brooklyn. That

7:27

was the, uh. Oh. That infamous

7:29

series. Oh. Line on the.

7:32

Kevin Durant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:36

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:38

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:42

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:45

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:48

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:51

Yeah. Yeah. Did

7:54

he play? The loss of Kyrie was the big. I

7:56

don't think he played. I think he might have played at some point. I don't think

7:58

he was playing at the end of the series. We

8:00

got hurt in game two correct. Uh

8:02

I think and I think you're also right

8:04

Dave I remember hardening that series, but not

8:07

for long. Yeah, and there's like that game

8:10

Was a game seven Oh T right

8:13

that was told him it was only Durant. Yep

8:16

Kyrie and hard were not in that correct So

8:19

you guys you guys would be surprised if Denver

8:21

got swept in this series. Yes Absolutely.

8:24

Yeah, so if Denver gets swept. I

8:26

mean what? What

8:28

are we looking at like who would be your

8:31

title favorite in your Minnesota Minnesota It had to

8:33

be Minnesota, right? Have you watched Denver? Have you

8:35

watching that series? I've seen some how good that

8:37

defense is right now They're good

8:39

all around. I mean Edwards is phenomenal. They have

8:41

a deep team. They have two bench guys scored

8:43

double figures Carl Anthony towns is

8:45

playing at a high level and it's like you pointed out like

8:47

we People spend all this

8:50

time trashing Carl Anthony towns and look what he's

8:52

doing. He's playing well, so you'd give Boston no

8:54

chance No, no,

8:56

what do you mean? What are you talking about? No, no

8:58

now I'm talking about well I know my recent question

9:00

was no of course I would give Boston a chance no

9:02

my name at the West No, the last one asked the

9:04

West well that was the CMT my the last question

9:06

I asked was who would be your title favorite Boston?

9:09

Yes. Oh, I think

9:11

even the West no, no, I'm sorry we move no

9:13

no I'm

9:16

sorry. Why okay. Did you say no? No? With

9:19

you right now. I said no in that fruit Game

9:23

I said no no like no no

9:25

comma. No. Oh, well I heard no

9:27

no Well,

9:30

I listen I was looking to know up on the TV and

9:33

I got carried away I think you celebrate it too hard after

9:35

that victory. Oh boy. He's not over you

9:37

like bite down on that medal again So

9:44

We're taking landscape of the NFL

9:46

rosters pretty much set for 2024 You

9:49

know, you know, it's pretty crazy and

9:51

not rushing through it because there's the Knicks

9:53

Rangers summer to get through what's

9:56

pretty crazy We're basically halfway

9:58

from when football to win

10:00

football returns. That's nice. Schedule

10:03

two days away. You

10:05

know what else is nice? Mm-hmm. Is

10:08

the fact that we still have so much Knicks

10:10

and Rangers remaining. And we're already halfway through.

10:12

Take us there. Take us as close as you can get

10:14

us. They might get us. I mean, we could get to

10:16

mid-June with these teams. Don't assume. Let's

10:18

just get there. Did

10:21

I assume? Did I say we

10:23

could? You said we've got so much. I

10:26

said we could get to mid-June with these

10:28

teams. You literally said we've got so much

10:30

Knicks and Rangers left. You

10:33

also said, he also said no, no. Okay, let me

10:35

just move along, please. I mean, my God. All

10:38

right. It's all going to fall apart now, Ray. Is that what you

10:40

want to hear? You're the

10:42

guy who doesn't like when Brooms gets into it. Well,

10:44

Brooms is saying we have a long landing spot. We

10:46

have a lot, hopefully a lot of basketball and hockey

10:49

left is different. All you got to say is hopefully.

10:51

That's all you have to do. All right, hopefully.

10:54

Hopefully. Carpe omele. Carpe omele.

10:56

Oh, we moved dinosaur at the end of the show. Thank you. Thank

10:59

you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

11:02

you. Thank you. Well, we'll

11:04

go back there today. No, we're done with that. No, we're not. No,

11:07

we're not. Yes. No, I do it.

11:10

No. No, it's all day pass. No, we

11:12

seized everything we want. It's over. No. Yes.

11:15

I want to seize today. No. I'm

11:17

going to be a DEA agent. I'm going to seize everything. All right.

11:21

Have you dug crack? Yeah, you've gone down. I

11:24

ask you, division winners from

11:26

last year of these three that will

11:28

have the toughest time repeating. Would

11:31

it be Ray's Cowboys, which I'm not even sure

11:33

he likes anymore. He likes them. He

11:36

just, he hates them in the same way. Would

11:39

it be the- That makes sense. Dead

11:41

sexy Detroit Lions. Or

11:44

would it be the Buffalo Bills? Good

11:47

question. It's a great

11:49

question. Is it? Yeah,

11:51

it's a good question. I think

11:54

the three is obvious. What

11:56

does that mean? You think the order is very

11:58

obvious? I think so. No. It's

12:02

very. Ill

12:05

know. For. Who's

12:07

your three the next week to week I'd

12:09

I think you're married Detroit? Job.

12:12

As. As easy as the hardest. Go now.

12:15

Will. Have the toughest time of his thoughts are

12:17

going to marry a toss up? Marry the toughest

12:19

Mary. Be married Buffalo, you conlon. Dallas your

12:21

trash in Detroit. Really? Yep.

12:23

take. That packers. And but we

12:26

can revisit later. But that I thought of I

12:28

did was so obvious. At.

12:30

All no No. No. No, no,

12:33

no, it's ongoing to. Put.

12:37

The way of think bought of his cause I'm in. Dallas

12:40

just as Philly Rutgers design was taken. To say

12:42

that you knew that guy how if you have

12:44

any that he has it he added the way

12:46

of us yeah to get right. So I'm going

12:49

to marry Dallas. Man

12:51

to the men on hiring one as a

12:53

tough is hop is now I'm in a

12:55

trash Dallas. Yes, I'm innocent. Give you that.

12:58

Oh my. this is a guest convoluted. The

13:00

time I worry about you. Are

13:02

going to trash Dallas? Who.

13:06

Stop and Detroit. I'm going to. Buy

13:09

the keys rather to get a cut of the bill that he

13:11

get a mirage? Well I have no and. And

13:14

okay, other needed. And

13:16

it's I think. Buffalo's

13:19

hard for us to win that the reason that

13:21

Damascene rights Elizabeth Mott. but I think. I.

13:24

Think that this is the Jets, this is their

13:26

time. I didn't feel confident last year in in

13:28

the jets like a Real Madrid. other way that

13:31

we've are hunted. A Miami being any thing is

13:33

is seeking to me saw him was talk about

13:35

Miami. My advice you have to include my only

13:37

Miami is part of the equation for sure. and

13:40

and that's probably another reason for my art listen

13:42

to anybody discuss my mail miami that it does

13:44

the to team race no not so fast what

13:46

we want to face had three team race i

13:48

agree with i didn't say was as who seem

13:50

race i'll just talk about the from the suspect

13:52

him of just looking at the jets and you

13:55

have to take the dolphins into account what if

13:57

is so itself so right a what you've got

13:59

two teams that are competing with my things done

14:01

So what am I marrying the hardest the least?

14:03

Oh, why do you give him a hard time?

14:05

I'm marrying Buffalo said hello Give him a hard

14:07

time. I'm marrying Buffalo. I'm cuddling Detroit The

14:10

Cowboys get bet over unders who's the way

14:12

to the Troy in the north So it

14:14

Green Bay to show you what the AFC

14:17

East is expecting to look like the

14:19

Jets and the Dolphins

14:22

both have over unders of nine and a

14:24

half the bills are a ten and a

14:26

half I expect this to be very tight and

14:28

I agree with that the reason I would still go

14:30

Buffalo That's playing

14:32

the division Say

14:36

what you want. Are they are they a sound that no

14:38

best player in the division still Okay,

14:40

I'm not disagreeing. No, I think when you look

14:42

at the amount of teams in each division Do

14:44

you think that the Chicago Bears with Caleb Williams have

14:47

a legitimate chance when the division? No, or they your

14:49

way the year away What about Minnesota? No, Sam Darnell?

14:51

No, okay. So they're talking about two teams. I married

14:53

Detroit No, but you're not supposed to

14:55

marry Detroit. You supposed to cuddle the trade. You'd marry Buffalo. I

14:58

don't know You think the ball is

15:00

gonna be the hardest? No, no, no, I can't hurt

15:02

us would be Detroit and then the easiest would be

15:04

Dallas Yes, yes, so Buffalo

15:07

Mary the Troy cuddle Dallas

15:09

kill. No, there you go. Trash Wow dead I

15:12

Dallas and Philadelphia by the way both have over

15:14

unders of 10 and a half So

15:17

it's a race. So it's a 50-50. Someone

15:20

say that some would say that.

15:22

Alrighty lastly Here we go Well,

15:25

I think you'll like this one So

15:28

Dave rock in the metal Second

15:30

day in a row you guys continue.

15:32

Why are you laughing? Well earned victory tour. Can't believe

15:34

you wearing it Well, of course gonna wear it In

15:38

a pickleball wind viewed by thousands by

15:41

the way thousands for hundreds of attendance

15:43

and thousands around the world and only

15:45

hundreds in attendance be due to a you

15:47

know fire capacity gotta be gotta be safe,

15:50

so To My

15:53

knowledge you've yet to receive really any apologies.

15:55

Is that right? That's right. Okay,

15:57

this works nicely then I

16:00

spoke with one of these people yesterday about

16:02

how they'd like to apologize. Oh. Who

16:05

are you most looking for this? Do you know this? No.

16:08

I don't think he does know this. Okay. Who

16:10

are you most looking forward to hearing an apology

16:12

from and after? I'll tell you who I spoke with. Okay.

16:15

Would it be Anita Marks? Mm-hmm. Would

16:17

it be Imani Toomer, whom we have not

16:19

seen since Sunday? No. And little

16:21

did I know, because we had a conversation with

16:23

our boss, John, after the show, this

16:25

was more real than I thought it was. There are real

16:27

concerns about Imani. No,

16:29

he was furious. RJ, he

16:32

was hitting the ball

16:35

at people that had gone there to witness the

16:37

match. Yeah, he went Pat Bev. He

16:40

did. That's exactly what he went. Or he

16:43

hit that lady right in the face, Pat Bev.

16:45

That was terrible. The

16:47

third option, Thomas

16:50

Bauer. I just want to say from the

16:52

bottom of my heart, I'd like to take

16:55

this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody. So

16:58

I know that Tom's the one that you've been in

17:00

touch with. That might be true. That's

17:02

pretty obvious. You

17:05

go first. I'm going to marry Tom Bauer. You

17:07

want to hear from him the most? Yes. He's

17:10

going to sing a song about us. Yeah, of course. An

17:12

ode, really. Is it a song or is it just an

17:14

ode? Whatever. He's

17:16

singing something. I'll marry Tom Bauer. I'm going to cuddle... I'm

17:23

going to cuddle Anita. Believe

17:26

it or not, because she talked the most trash,

17:28

and then I'm going to trash Imani because I

17:30

just don't think emotionally he can deal with it.

17:34

I don't think he's ready. I think there's

17:36

a pretty good chance you never hear from him

17:38

again. How did you notice that he made a

17:40

very interesting footwear decision?

17:43

I didn't notice that. Yeah. I

17:45

just didn't... Was he wearing clogs? No,

17:47

they weren't clogs. They seemed

17:49

like the walking... They're

17:53

little people that have the

17:55

shoes that are supposed to be good for your feet. Or orthopedic

17:57

shoes? No, they don't have orthopedic shoes. No, like the... I

18:00

don't know how to describe them. They didn't look

18:02

like the proper footwear for a pickleball match.

18:04

Well, did it matter? No. I

18:06

mean, he could've been wearing high heels, clogs, footwear.

18:09

You're big on the clogs. Air Jordans. It

18:11

wouldn't have made a difference. Speak of, Rick had some

18:13

nice new jeans on. Yeah, he did. Those are crispy

18:16

looking. Rick looked good. He looked

18:18

terrific. All right, so the one

18:21

I most want to hear from,

18:24

Anita. Anita started

18:26

the whole thing. Anita was obnoxious the whole

18:28

way through. Anita was insulting the whole way

18:31

through. She should really

18:33

own this, take ownership of this disastrous

18:36

loss, and she

18:38

should probably call the show and apologize. You

18:40

might not be wrong. And

18:44

I'll follow that with Imani. Imani

18:46

had to... Did they date? No. Dave's

18:49

even on the team. I mean, he had a lot of

18:51

nasty things to say. He was

18:53

willing to say a lot of things

18:55

along the lines that were really, I think,

18:58

crossed the line. So I would cuddle Imani.

19:01

Yeah, I think Bauer was doing a little for effect. I

19:03

do look forward to his ode

19:05

in response to our victory. But I'll

19:08

trash time, Bauer. All right. There you

19:10

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19:19

a bad answer by you. It's a bad answer.

19:21

You know what? It's a bad answer. I agree

19:23

with you, Anita. Fine. No

19:26

problem with that. Imani kind of got

19:28

sucked into this. He still was... I

19:30

met him. I understand that. But he

19:32

was kind of like he was... He got caught up in it.

19:34

But I think that Tom was playing a role. No. I

19:37

think Imani was legitimately... I think Imani

19:39

was... Talking trash. I think Imani was

19:41

playing more a role than Tom. Tom

19:43

had multiple opportunities. He's not playing.

19:46

And he was actually on the... He was

19:48

on the show and

19:50

stood by. You guys are gonna get

19:53

beat. I'll sit on that one. Yeah, right on. He

19:55

was wrong. Well, listen. I

19:57

hear him saying... So RJ, you didn't tell us. Who's the one

19:59

of the three... that you've been in touch with. So I spoke

20:01

with Bauer. Uh-huh. Dump, dump, dump

20:03

Bauer! Dump, dump, dump! He

20:06

was here yesterday working Barton Hahn and then

20:08

the K-Show. Was he a tad embarrassed about

20:10

his uh? He owned it right away. I

20:12

walked in, he knew exactly what I was going to say before I said

20:15

it, and I just said, you

20:17

let me know when you're ready. I'll be

20:19

waiting on your call. Hey, I have no problem with the

20:21

dark twist. So I think he has

20:23

begun the construction of the Ode, and

20:26

we'll be hearing from him soon. That's nice. Well

20:28

that sucks to be you. Let's uh, let's keep the show moving

20:30

though. In fact, it sucks to be him at this moment. It

20:32

does suck to be him. Do we want to cold call Anita

20:34

just to see? Because she's not going to call us. There's

20:37

no chance. She should. Come

20:40

on. It would be the sporting thing to do. She

20:43

won't. She won't, no. Um.

20:46

Yeah. Dilly, dilly. I

20:49

think we should. I think we should. How do you want to

20:51

do it? You want me to call? No, I think

20:53

we do it on that. Do it through those guys so that we can

20:56

each speak to her at the same time. That's right. All

20:58

right. Raymond, you ever number? You must ever number.

21:01

I think I do. All right. Why

21:03

don't you dial those digits and get her on the line. Boop,

21:06

boop. What was that? Was

21:08

that her? That was her. Why?

21:11

Boop, boop. I don't know. Why

21:13

are you asking me? I don't know. Because you

21:15

consume everything. You're probably like, that was on June the 9th. No,

21:19

stop. Please. Consume everything.

21:21

Just bring it on the jets. I

21:27

hate when you look at me like that. Sorry. I

21:29

won't look at you at all. Raymond, dial those numbers, would

21:31

you? He's rambling. You see this? He gave

21:33

you the finger. Yeah. You want me to ask you no

21:35

no to call? No no, no. He's

21:38

busy producing another show. She's probably sleeping. You

21:40

think? I'd say that's probably right. Yeah,

21:43

good chance. She likes to party hard. Good night.

21:45

Oh, we knew. We found

21:47

out. Yeah. Just hung over on it. The

21:50

excuses cleared the pile up. Yep. He's

21:52

working at the phone over there. He's like a tangello. Oh,

21:54

here we go. He's bringing. Look at

21:56

that. Here we go. Why are you nervous?

22:00

That's gonna be hostile. You

22:02

should play it well. I think.

22:04

The groggy in here. How

22:07

quiet. Rene. Rene. Please

22:11

leave your message. You

22:16

leave it. What the hang up? No,

22:18

you hung up. Oh, I pulled it down

22:20

because a number's being told right now. Oh, good call.

22:22

Pull it back up. All

22:27

right, the beep has happened. Go ahead. I

22:29

need a hi Dave Rothenberg, Rick DPH, or 9870SPN. We

22:32

faced you guys in a pickleball competition the other

22:34

day and smashed you. We'd like to have some

22:36

post recap conversation on the show if, of course,

22:39

you would be willing to do that with us.

22:41

Call us at your leisure. Thank

22:43

you so much. Bye-bye. How's

22:46

that? Nice. That's better than me,

22:48

yeah. Take some notes there. I would have sold myself.

22:50

Yeah. You'll leave the message. All

22:52

right, let's get back to the next as we wait on

22:54

the call. Do you think Anita

22:57

will call? No. When's

23:01

she on the air next? I'm

23:04

sure this week. Friday? Friday?

23:07

Yeah, Friday. Do you think that she

23:09

has to address it? Someone's

23:11

going to call in to address

23:14

it? I would think. Yeah. I

23:16

would hope. I'm hoping she could get it done

23:18

now. Call us back. Spend five, 10 minutes and that'll be

23:20

that. But what do you think the avenue is out of

23:22

it? Like what's the pivot? Do you

23:24

think she just falls on the sword? Or do you think

23:26

she just said, you know what? Imani, Nazgir is the thought.

23:29

Let me down. Yeah, I think

23:31

she probably blames a little bit of Imani. I don't know if she's

23:34

going to be falling on any swords. Really? That

23:36

would be disappointing. They

23:39

started a bigger journey. Like if you watch that, they

23:41

started a bigger journey. They lost their composure. They fell

23:43

apart. And there was the one shot that you hit

23:45

right down the middle and they just looked at each

23:47

other like. That's when you knew they were

23:49

done. I thought you were going to say, you've been taking

23:51

those all game long. And they're done. You

23:54

could feel the life just get sucked

23:56

right out. No, I think that she

23:58

will be respectful. you know what

24:00

you guys are way better than I anticipated and

24:02

I'm sorry that's what she should do although I

24:04

she's just gonna start another battle on her hands

24:08

yeah but she was supposed to be on yesterday was

24:11

she that was the that was the

24:13

arrangement made when we when

24:15

we were on the radio on Sunday was

24:19

that after after

24:21

we finished up the match on Monday you come on the show and

24:23

we talk about what happened I

24:26

thought so and after I was either

24:28

case of wine a you know

24:30

hopefully she calls back but let's get back

24:32

to these Knicks calls I did get a tweet

24:35

from Greg from trouble said worst case you guys call

24:37

it to her show I don't

24:39

want to have to do that she should call

24:41

in town we lost we would call in her show

24:43

but we did it literally it wasn't even close scoop

24:45

in South Plainfield hi scoop you're on 98 7 you

24:49

know just once I would like you know

24:52

a comfortable fourth quarter closeout but I guess

24:54

I signed up for the anxiety of this

24:56

team I'm not gonna happen scoop I mean

24:58

they are they're not head and shoulders better

25:00

than anybody and you're gonna get a lot

25:02

of very closely contested games yeah

25:05

it's unfortunate but I don't say it

25:07

all the time I don't know if the refs are

25:09

getting worse or there's more replay to show how bad

25:11

they've always been but it's it's it's bad

25:13

I mean throughout the whole game there's been terrible

25:15

foul calls on both sides of the ball just

25:17

embarrassing I mean I mean I'll

25:19

take it obviously as an ex-man I'm not gonna

25:21

complain about it good good referee down a good

25:24

reffing down a stretch but I

25:26

actually like how Carlisle and Turner and

25:28

everything reacted at the postgame you know

25:30

it's a complete 180 from the

25:32

76er series where Nick Nurse would still be crying

25:34

about every foul that's been called but Carlisle just

25:36

said you know we'll take it and move on

25:39

to the next game so well what's your idea

25:41

right I mean what do you what

25:43

can you do you can sit there and you can whine

25:45

and complain and try to get you know calls in

25:48

your in your favor moving forward or you can handle

25:50

it like an adult and say and listen

25:52

odds are you're gonna get more of the calls in

25:55

your home arena and the Knicks got more

25:57

their calls in game one and hopefully uh Hopefully

26:00

that continues again. I gotta tell you though, if

26:04

you're the Pacers and you're Rick Carlisle, as you kind of

26:06

sit back and look at this game and go over what

26:08

went right and what went wrong, I would think

26:11

he's probably more encouraged. He's upset that he lost.

26:13

I mean, can you imagine going into game one

26:15

on the road and you steal a win? Like

26:18

that's ideal. They didn't, but

26:21

for Halliburton to play

26:24

as poorly as he played and

26:26

get the production from your bench, kind of have things go,

26:28

especially in that first half, like you wanted them to go,

26:31

right? Like, I mean, the Knicks only had two offensive rebounds.

26:33

Like, we were right there at the end if we don't have

26:36

that foul called, if the kickball gets called along with it.

26:38

Like, you gotta think Halliburton's gonna get

26:40

better, you think, and on top of that, do

26:42

you think that Rick Carlisle says to himself that

26:45

Josh Hart and Dante DiVincenzo on a night in and night

26:47

out base is gonna be that good or that efficient? No,

26:49

I don't think he would think so, but you know what?

26:53

Halliburton will be better. Will O.B. Toppin

26:55

go 5-7? McConnell gonna give you 9-16 as

26:57

Isaiah Jackson gonna give you 4-6 and Ben

26:59

Sheppard 3-5? I don't know. Yes,

27:02

Halliburton will be better. I agree. But

27:04

the positive of what you saw from them though too is

27:06

that's their bench on the road. They can take away a

27:08

lot of positive from the game. It

27:11

surprised me how good they were, how

27:13

athletic they were, how deep they were. You said the

27:15

same thing though. Coming from a person that

27:17

said you're picking 6 out of respect, but

27:20

you could see it going 5,

27:22

said, whoa, maybe

27:24

I'm sleeping on the Pacers a little bit. That's

27:26

probably what they're saying to themselves now. We got, I mean, however you want

27:28

to spin it, but like

27:31

Jalen Bronson's gonna get his. He's that good. Are

27:33

these guys gonna be as good as they were? Probably

27:37

not. I mean, how much better could their bench be? What'd

27:40

they give you? 40-something points? No, but I mean, say

27:42

in the next bench, like maybe Doocy goes for 12

27:44

points. So

27:46

what gets better for the next? Because Bronson's not gonna

27:48

get better and Donte's not gonna get better and Josh

27:50

Hart's not gonna get better. So could OG be better?

27:52

Yes. And then maybe Doocy?

27:55

Could Mr. Robinson be better? But

27:57

for him, it doesn't mean, I mean points wise. Points

27:59

wise, it'd be McGonagall. bride and Ananobi. But

28:01

I think if you get more from those guys you have

28:04

to be realistic and say am I gonna get that again

28:06

from Divacenzo? And being that efficient as

28:08

those three were. If you had to

28:10

bet every penny you have on who's gonna win this series

28:12

where would you put it right now? Every

28:15

penny I had I would still put it on

28:17

the next because I think when push comes to shove I think

28:19

the fact that you have Brunson especially late in these games is

28:22

the difference as it was in game one. Shaq

28:24

in North Brunswick. Hi Shaq you're on 98.7. Hey

28:27

good morning Dave and Rick how you guys doing?

28:30

We're doing great. It was a wonderful win last

28:32

night. Yes sir. Yeah I

28:34

was watching that one thing I wanted to talk

28:36

about was the resiliency of this team. Watching

28:38

the next all year I was not worried at all

28:40

in the fourth even when we were down a couple

28:42

you know a few points. What do you mean you

28:45

were worried? I wasn't

28:47

worried because I knew that we were gonna make

28:49

the plays needed to be I knew we were

28:51

gonna lock down on defense and I knew we

28:53

were gonna take this shot. So I'm confident in

28:55

this team closing out games and the closer the

28:58

game is I'm actually more confident that we're gonna

29:00

be the team that pulls through in the clutch

29:02

than the opponent as far as these

29:04

matchups so far. Alright

29:07

well listen I appreciate how

29:10

confident you are. I mean there's no question

29:12

that this is I mean resiliency is a

29:14

great word to use to describe this next

29:16

team. They're tough they're resilient and they make

29:18

plays in the big moments but they have

29:20

not been perfect. I mean that game five

29:22

was brutal and game six had an eight-point

29:24

lead with two minutes to go two and a

29:26

half minutes to go and the

29:29

game was tied again and last night well

29:32

that was another one of those series though. I mean you

29:34

mentioned game five how fortunate we were in

29:36

game two when you looked I mean when the series was

29:38

over you're like you

29:40

won in six but that I mean could

29:42

have very nice. It was dicey yeah it was

29:44

very dicey. Let's go to our

29:46

dear friend shooter in Stanford. Hi

29:49

shooter. Good morning boys. Good morning

29:51

companies. Congrats on your big win.

29:53

Thank you. I was very impressed.

29:55

I was very impressed. Rick's laser

29:57

focus. You too. Hurley

30:00

were good. Team. I

30:02

really felt bad for our money supply

30:04

hundred eda like. Up Armani.

30:07

I know he played tennis a long time

30:09

ago but he had been facts to he

30:11

could put arsenal boss he tried it a

30:13

for hims winner. And

30:15

it was disastrous. Something that you know we're gonna win.

30:17

The general of you know, the shooter. the don't talk

30:19

smack for weeks and months leading up to the matter.

30:21

you can go and kick our ass. That's.

30:24

True, but it was nice. I

30:26

really saw baptism by the way,

30:29

your wives had advertised. For

30:31

progress view on out as well. Thank you.

30:35

Split shudder. Can I get reminders in the

30:37

next? Can I lick their eyes? Obama crossing

30:39

a line? Why at a breath? I.

30:43

Told you want to get the schools which is

30:45

the honest are running the halls. Know.

30:48

I get to school hide and seek on

30:50

the elevator because the phone cut out so

30:52

I wound up the stairs to the phone

30:54

call by walk of the status. Of

30:57

a spring up the stairs. Is this like

30:59

a sour how many stairs or and assessment

31:01

is schools loyalty to the show guy cinema

31:03

who were have to say as soon the

31:06

phone doesn't could have you ever walk stairs

31:08

before. Yeah.

31:10

it was with want to walk the spared the phone Cartel

31:13

I gotta go fast sort of the cut out how. I

31:16

got a human greyhound it up the stairs or Canada

31:18

will take the during a man to get back to

31:20

your d the you can complete the call right now.

31:24

Now. A good younger to go. How can

31:26

God then next? You. Guys are kind of

31:28

said it already but. I

31:30

think this team is like we said,

31:32

different people just keep stepping on which

31:35

is excellent but. We. Need

31:37

oh geez or even sounds like someone

31:39

has to step up and do solid.

31:41

Number to go to has be consistent.

31:44

But. Why be consistent from now on? Why? Why does

31:46

it have to be the same guy good at math

31:48

in Iran? game? Because.

31:51

When it gets him to leave him

31:53

again and stories told him and Bronson

31:55

with didn't do too much last night

31:57

when once was amazing I suppose. but.

32:00

We're gonna need someone

32:02

like who knows it's time. It's my ball

32:04

now But what I don't understand is

32:06

why does it have to be the same guy every

32:08

game? Well, no, there is one person that knows it's

32:10

time and it's my ball and that's Jalen Bronson Right.

32:12

No, of course. He's gonna be the alpha But why

32:14

does it have to be as your number two either

32:16

divan cenzo or an anobia? It's just whoever it is

32:19

that game is fine for me. It's gonna be more than one

32:21

though Yeah, I have to be

32:23

more than one. I agree. Yeah, but it doesn't have to

32:25

be if it's not just good Hey, it's got to be

32:27

be oh, you're right, but there's I mean it I

32:29

think it lends to kind

32:32

of the uneasy feeling you have when

32:34

you go into games like this knowing that you don't Really

32:37

know who it's gonna be Right

32:41

again, there's something there's some There's

32:43

something to be said about going to game no where

32:45

I have okay I got Bronson and I got Julius Randall

32:47

or I have you know, Luca and I have Kyrie

32:50

So I mean if if it's

32:53

you know, if they're making it harder Luca I know

32:55

I get the ball of Kyrie and he's gonna like

32:57

we don't have that guy I know it's got to

32:59

be a depending on the game. This is who your

33:01

your second best offensive weapon is going

33:03

to be That's just kind

33:05

of the nature of the biz. Well, it's the nature

33:07

of this team and that's correct It was talking about after game

33:09

there. We're under man right now. That's right. I don't have You

33:13

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33:15

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33:17

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36:00

Yeah, we know he played football for NC State and

36:02

they played for the Giants for a minute They was

36:04

a couple different teams. They were the Broncos as well

36:06

RJ. Is he on the line Mark Thomas?

36:08

Is that what I'm gathering here you are?

36:12

And he wants to what embarrassed me on the air is that

36:14

is that the goal of this phone call mark says he has

36:16

a story He'd like to share You

36:19

know I can't wait for this. You're gonna want to hear

36:21

this. Okay. Good. All right I don't even

36:23

know what story he's gonna go with but I'm sure it'll

36:25

be humbling to me and let's let's see Let's let's bring

36:27

him out. I've spoken to him in a long time mark

36:29

Thomas former giant legend and certainly NC State

36:31

legend as well Good morning mark. How you doing, buddy? Rothenberg

36:35

how you doing my friend? I am doing great So

36:37

what you're up in the New York area golfing and

36:39

you texted me and now you're listening on In

36:42

the car on the way is that what's happening? Oh,

36:44

yeah, I got the boys in the car You guys

36:47

are sounding great dude, which is I'm telling you rock

36:49

We we've loved to work with you for

36:52

a long time We always knew you're much

36:54

bigger than our show down in a little

36:56

Raleigh. We're just doing college basketball your big-time,

36:58

dude You're you're in a pro sports guy

37:01

and that's that you're doing it, but

37:03

I did want to share that story

37:05

days after

37:07

watching Tom Brady do

37:09

his little roast on Netflix and the

37:13

chance words he had to say about Eli Manning

37:15

and Telling

37:17

the story about your reaction

37:20

After that Super Bowl win and do you remember

37:22

that time being with me and hanging out and

37:24

saying there's no chance the Giants are Gonna beat

37:26

the Pats. I didn't think we're gonna win that

37:28

game. Yeah, I mean the Giants were two touchdown

37:30

underdogs All

37:33

right, so tell the story car yes

37:37

Here's what happened. It was undefeated Dave said

37:39

look if the Giants win. I'm shaving my

37:42

beard. I'm like Dave There's no way you

37:44

can shave that beard Dave's beard is You

37:47

can't it's it's impossible Giants

37:50

win Dave comes in stayed up all

37:52

night partying. It looked like someone took

37:54

a weed eater to his face Because

37:57

Dave has the sickest toughest I've

38:00

ever seen in my entire life shows

38:02

up. He was breathing harder than your

38:04

last caller on the stairs He

38:07

came in sweating Face

38:10

just toilet paper all over his face true, but

38:12

Dave you're the happiest man I've ever met in

38:15

my entire life at that point and dude it

38:17

was it was just a great time That was

38:19

unbelievable mark. Let me ask you a question at

38:21

what point work what day did you realize that

38:23

he was he was actually crazy? Oh? within

38:27

five minutes They've had

38:29

a deadpan humor to him that

38:32

Nothing nothing shakes him up except the Giants

38:34

being the undefeated Patriots apparently, but he's a

38:36

little crazy But you gotta have a little

38:38

cup of crazy for crying out loud if

38:40

you're gonna do sports talk radio with New

38:42

York Dude, you gotta have a little cup

38:45

of crazy, and that guy's got it. Oh,

38:47

yeah, I'm working with Full

38:51

of crazy absolutely awesome. Are you playing golf with

38:53

today if you are allowed to tell us right?

38:56

No, I can't share. I can't share everything

38:58

that we're gonna be doing, but we will be

39:01

a truck Ben Benster today Got

39:03

some hopefully Secret Service agents

39:06

protecting us I don't want anything you know

39:08

anything rough to happen around there, but no

39:10

we just just some Some

39:13

Giants guys are I'm texting with are gonna be up here

39:15

So that just a lot of new a lot

39:17

of new faces and old faces that we're gonna see

39:19

up here So we're looking forward to it and Dave

39:21

I'll check in with you and let you know how

39:23

it's going give you a blow-by-blow For the next couple

39:25

days. I would appreciate that you're up in New York for a

39:27

couple days now, huh? Yeah, we're

39:29

gonna be heading back Thursday. All right good

39:31

send me a text and maybe we'll meet

39:33

up, but this is a great Brother thanks

39:35

mark. Appreciate you guys are doing great. Keep

39:37

it up. Thank you. You've been married

39:40

for 20 years You didn't get many blow-by-blows, so it'd be good

39:42

if market let me know Like

39:45

he's one of these people that the people see

39:47

him like oh, he's what a handsome guy that

39:49

oh really oh, yeah See you think

39:51

they're a nice little day today. So you should say he

39:54

looks like a Clark Kent Very

39:56

Clark and he's probably six

39:58

five two Here's a tight end. It's

40:01

a tight end at NC

40:04

State and then journeyman through

40:06

the NFL. So he kind of has all the things that

40:08

RJ wishes. Like RJ at 6'5 would be. RJ

40:11

would dominate life. RJ you're 6'5, 270. Firstly

40:17

like you're intimidated by nobody if that's

40:19

the case and women throw themselves at

40:21

you and I don't know that you would

40:23

be able to handle actually being 6'5, 270. Hmm,

40:26

I guess we'll never know. I'd

40:29

truly like to find out. So

40:31

I have to ask what everyone's thinking the uncomfortable question. It

40:34

seems like you and Mark are buddies. Yeah, he's a

40:36

good guy. Yeah.

40:38

Better co-host. Rick or

40:40

Mark? Rick. Wow.

40:44

And you know he's listening. And

40:46

I like Mark very much. What if he uses that 6'5

40:48

frame to come pummel you now? Yeah

40:51

I mean. Well I'll use my 6'5

40:53

frame pummel me or a 6'5 frame pummel me.

40:57

That really is the difference. No. But

40:59

I'm not lying. And Mark, Mark, very

41:01

talented broadcaster. Rick is, I mean we, I

41:04

didn't work with Mark for that long either.

41:07

I mean we're together for a very short amount of time. You

41:10

don't have to make, yeah. I know, I know, you

41:12

know what, RJ I don't have to apologize and I

41:14

don't have to change my answer. My

41:16

answer is Rick. Alright? And you

41:18

can ask me today, you can ask me

41:20

tomorrow and Mark can be sitting on my

41:22

lap. And I like Mark. I'd still choose

41:25

Rick. You know what, Dave? You have

41:27

the passion and Rick is a hard

41:29

nose ball. You are a hard nose

41:31

ball. Hard nose ball, yeah. So

41:34

you're taking the attack that Mark is, Cullen

41:36

basically. You're already here. Cullen stinks.

41:39

No, no, no, no. Cullen physically stunk.

41:41

Like there was an odor emanating from

41:44

his armpits which was unbelievable. Mark,

41:46

I believe, is a freshly showered,

41:48

freshly cleaned man continuously. Stink.

41:52

Stunk. Stunk. I

41:54

mean, word must have gotten back to Cullen by now

41:56

that you think he has a real issue. No,

41:59

I don't think he has an issue. I think that

42:01

one day he had a major problem. Yeah, I don't

42:03

think the outfit either was probably conducive to smelling... No.

42:06

The way he wanted to smell. He let himself go

42:08

and it was very apparent. The neck bush. Let's

42:11

go to Fran and Mesopoieto. Hi Fran.

42:14

What's up guys? What's up guys? Love the

42:16

show man. You guys do a great job. I don't have to tell

42:18

you. But I just want to be real quick. This

42:21

is just a dream. A basketball dream,

42:23

this guy. I mean they

42:26

put up a stat last night. I think I saw it

42:28

right. Five

42:31

players to score 40 in a row in

42:34

five straight NBA playoff games. I

42:36

think it was Oscar Robinson, Jordan,

42:40

Toby and LeBron. None

42:45

of the guys that you said are even right. No,

42:47

it's Michael, it's Bernard King and

42:50

it's Jerry West. Alright,

42:52

because they showed another stat though. The

42:55

guy's incredible. They showed another stat that Oscar Robinson

42:57

was in that this kid is... I mean this

42:59

kid... Listen, the guy's the MVP of the league.

43:01

I don't want to hear anything else. I don't

43:03

care. He's not the... Listen, does it

43:06

even matter at this point? That doesn't. You're

43:08

one of the main teams remaining and you won game

43:10

one against Indiana. And now we're in the city and

43:12

discussed how he should be MVP. It's irrelevant at this

43:14

point Fran. 100%

43:16

sorry and I just want to say I love the kid. I'm

43:18

so happy as a Nick fan. He does

43:20

everything right. Thank you guys. Thank you for

43:22

the phone call. Did you watch the Brady

43:24

roast by the way? I haven't yet. No.

43:28

The ex-wife Giselle. Not happy. Very

43:31

unhappy by the way. She's not happy in the... As

43:34

she says, the irresponsible jokes about her

43:36

marriage to Tom Brady. That's according to

43:38

people. I think Aaron Hernandez is

43:40

ex-fiancee. He's also

43:42

very unhappy. Giselle quote is deeply

43:45

disappointed by the disrespectful portrayal of

43:47

her family on Sunday evening's roast

43:50

show. My question would be, what

43:52

did they think was going to happen? Well

43:55

right. So I mean Tom

43:57

Brady knows what's going to happen. Giselle

44:00

didn't sign up for what was

44:02

gonna happen. I will be honest with you like in

44:04

that situation. I do feel badly for

44:06

her Like I mean she's done

44:08

nothing and now she's gonna come up for it. Well,

44:10

I don't know. Yeah, like this is not let's roast

44:13

Giselle this was Tom Brady right and she got

44:15

the job part of Roasting

44:17

Tom Brady is that Giselle's of course gonna

44:19

gonna take them straight, you know, yeah, of

44:21

course And it's not like she's on the

44:23

you know, she's on the dais Cuz

44:26

usually when you go in you're on the dais, right? So I don't

44:28

think she wants to want it to be anywhere I know it's not

44:30

they were near that. No, of course not It

44:33

was like I think was like three hours. Well,

44:35

everyone was getting it long time. I

44:37

can't wait to watch it I guess he

44:39

got upset when when Bob Kraft I get

44:41

a little I heard Jeff

44:44

Ross on with Rich. I didn't said that was kind of like oh

44:46

there's a little little He wasn't that

44:49

really upset about it, but you had to know that was

44:51

gonna happen I guess I heard this morning that

44:53

the only thing that really was out of bounds was gonna be Tom Brady's

44:55

kids They didn't go after the kids. No,

44:57

no, but that would be that was kind of like

44:59

the line I think I mean everything else besides the

45:01

kids is gonna be fair game, right? I mean, it's

45:03

just else a major public figure Yeah,

45:05

what's more embarrassing the Tom Brady though, then

45:08

you're Tom Brady I mean, you're the greatest

45:10

football player of all time You're handsome and

45:13

your wife cheated on you with a jujitsu

45:15

instructor And if you're gonna crew, I mean

45:17

that that would be something that you would go after though Would you

45:19

like to be roasted? No, you

45:21

do you think that it would bother you? No, I think it would bother

45:23

me I mean, I guess I would just cuz I get to retort it.

45:25

I think that would be fun I

45:28

would just they would like you don't understand how long it would

45:30

take me to like get to

45:32

get all that Material prepared to roast someone.

45:34

So no, no, I already roasted K I'm

45:36

saying like I if if

45:39

you roasted me right, it would be

45:41

you RJ Ray whoever else. Yeah, so

45:43

now Ryan Everybody yeah, I

45:45

would have to then you have the list of everyone

45:47

who's roasting you Yes, and and then it would have

45:49

your roast together for all of them when it's your

45:51

turn. That's right Take

45:54

forever forever for how you would pour

45:56

over. That's why Tom's took three hours,

45:59

right? It was a long time. All right, let's

46:01

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at drgesp. That's,

48:00

you know, getting swept in Tampa. Obviously

48:03

you had a bitter taste in your mouth after

48:05

Diaz blew that game. He comes in last night.

48:08

He was sensational. It did not

48:10

look like the same picture that you saw on the

48:12

play. No, it bounced back. He didn't want to throw

48:14

the fastball on Sunday. On Monday he was hitting 98.

48:17

He looked completely different. Well,

48:19

he has to be, I mean, come on. If

48:23

this team has any chance. He's

48:25

going to be two years ago. He's going to be the postseason.

48:27

Two years ago. By the way, I love... That's

48:30

the first save he's blown since 2022. But

48:33

he didn't pitch last year. But he didn't pitch in 2023. But

48:36

if this team, I mean, back to the point

48:38

here. If this team has any chance to be

48:41

a playoff team, you have

48:43

a lead going into the ninth inning with Edwin Diaz in the

48:45

mountain. It has to be a win. Has to be a win.

48:48

Every time. I mean, that's a catastrophic

48:50

loss on Sunday. Last night they, you

48:52

know, put a couple runs on the board. Then

48:55

they blow the game. Then it's

48:57

3-3 and you think to yourself, it's going to

48:59

come down to the bullpen. Big home run from

49:01

Nimmo and you get out of Dodge with Adavino's

49:03

pitched well. He has pitched well. And

49:06

then of course Diaz and you close this one down.

49:08

And I think the bigger story too was the fact

49:10

that Carlos Mendoza

49:13

felt like Pete needed a day. It

49:15

felt like Pete needed a day. I mean, Pete has

49:17

been, let's be fair. What was he, two

49:19

for his last 36? He hasn't dealt

49:21

with the whole trying to get that long-term

49:24

deal. I think what's happening every day that goes

49:27

by is it makes it more and more really

49:29

obvious that Pete's not going to be a met

49:31

for a very long time. You're going to, I

49:33

mean, there's no way, unless he takes a real

49:35

team friendly deal. And I got to

49:37

be honest, I don't even know if they keep him

49:39

then, but that's the only chance you have of keeping

49:41

Pete Alonso. Doesn't

49:43

seem to be a real appetite to get him done.

49:45

And I think ownership will, I mean, Steve

49:48

Cohen wants to frame it as, why would we

49:50

do it? We

49:52

don't have to. Right? Of

49:54

course. And then we have enough money if he has

49:56

a great season, great for us, and

49:59

we can always You know pay him what he

50:01

wants when he is free, but there's no

50:03

way you can pay him Freddie Freeman kind of money Well,

50:07

no, I think he wants more than Freddie Freeman Well,

50:09

how are you gonna do that now you couldn't miss

50:12

it in what 205? Well five right and

50:14

he certainly has some power but it's not I mean he's

50:16

not saying home runs So I do think I so the

50:18

question is does he figure it out Maybe

50:21

not batting average wise because you figure it out where

50:23

he was hitting 235 with 40

50:28

home runs Yeah

50:33

Yeah, probably so what

50:35

you know as a You

50:38

know David Stern is looking at this thing. How do you

50:40

value that? I don't I don't think they're

50:42

gonna keep him Like I would bet

50:44

money. They're not gonna keep him They're not gonna if

50:46

they wanted to keep and they would have approached him

50:49

for an extension Why would you let a guy play

50:51

his rage at year? I don't I

50:53

mean they would talk about him last season Right.

50:56

I think that's when it's that's when I think

50:59

there was a lot of kind of eyebrows went up Well, what do

51:01

you mean that you're and it wasn't just

51:03

they were talking It sounded like it was real close

51:05

to being that it was felt like it was in

51:07

the red zone So John Wither could even watch it.

51:09

Yeah, so that was like whoa, okay No, maybe this

51:11

isn't maybe he isn't gonna be a met for

51:13

life and then we didn't know what he's so many He hires Scott

51:15

Boris for a reason Right,

51:18

so I mean what I'm gonna want to get paid but

51:20

Scott Boris failed his clients. Well this all of course He

51:22

had a brutal season, but I mean in his mind. I

51:25

feel like he thinks he's more He's

51:28

more Aaron judge than he is metal

51:30

son or Freddie Freeman like

51:32

in his mind there is a value

51:34

attached to him being a Met

51:37

in face of the front but here but here's a difference Aaron

51:40

judge is great. He's

51:42

great. It's one of the best players He has

51:44

not had a great start to the season Aaron

51:46

judge is a elite outfielder. He's

51:49

an elite hitter He's got elite power.

51:51

I'm sorry, and I love Peter Lonzo.

51:53

He's not Aaron judge. He's just not

51:55

at that level of greatness He's just

51:58

not no I listen I

52:00

understand that. And I've said the entire

52:02

time, what kills him if he's trying to fight that

52:04

fight is what you saw Olsen signed for and what

52:06

you saw Freddie Freeman signed for. Correct. Well,

52:09

a lot of people think are better all-around players than Peter Lanza

52:11

is. What? Is it even a debate? Like,

52:13

they're clearly better all-around players than Peter Lanza.

52:15

Freddie Freeman hits $330. Right,

52:18

but you're also talking about the, I mean, one of

52:20

the great power hitters in

52:22

baseball. And I love him. Are you

52:24

willing to pay $35 million a

52:26

year for Peter Lanza, who's now entering his

52:29

30s? I would not do it. On strictly

52:31

performance? No. If for whatever reason you value

52:33

him being a Met for Life and all

52:36

that comes with that? All right. Well, I

52:38

mean, I'm not that kind of emotional, tear-joking guy.

52:41

David Sterns has no emotional attachment to Peter Lanza. Not even his

52:43

guy. No. Like, if anyone's going to do that, it's going to

52:46

be the owner. That would be, hey... But

52:49

even the owner hasn't owned the team in

52:51

the full time that Peter Lanza's in. No, I know. What

52:53

I'm saying, though, is if... Because this thing is not... You

52:56

don't do this... signing a player doesn't happen in

52:58

a bubble. This is,

53:01

what does this mean for the entirety of the franchise,

53:03

the building? It's like when you talk about drafting a

53:05

quarterback, that is in the top 10.

53:07

That's like, you have

53:09

to sell out the ownership. Like, he's going to help you

53:11

make that decision. So it's, you know, what

53:13

value do we put on Pete being a Met for Life? If he's

53:15

going to start approaching this number of home runs, what is it? What's

53:18

the value of that? Well, I got it right. Does that matter? Right.

53:20

This is not just strictly on performance on the field and

53:22

how you value the first base position and those other things.

53:25

No way. There's no way you're doing it. But if

53:27

the owner comes to you and says, listen, there is

53:29

more value that you're not seeing that he's going to bring to the

53:31

table. Well, they'd be in a Met for Life. That's

53:33

when you start getting maybe to the more unrealistic numbers.

53:35

But I don't think that's going to happen. No, I

53:37

don't think so. And again, I would be very surprised.

53:39

Now, I think in a perfect world... See,

53:42

here's the rub. In a perfect

53:44

world... Perfect world. He plays great.

53:47

You're out of it. And you get the most value. That's exactly

53:49

right. But you don't want to be out of it.

53:52

But you can quicker, you

53:54

know, restore this team to what you hope to

53:57

be quickly if, in fact, you get a

53:59

haul in return for Peter Lonsky. And you know that the

54:01

Cubs love them they wanted them last year. They still want

54:03

them right? But you're not gonna

54:05

get the return you want if this continues no

54:07

no no so there's not no benefitness No, no

54:09

benefit it doesn't help you win now, and it

54:11

doesn't help them on the trade market So there's

54:14

no benefit whatsoever to this so hopefully it gets

54:16

better, but good win last night budo on the

54:18

mound I think I think the other problem though

54:20

when you look at where this team is headed and By

54:23

the way they mean Christian Scott. I mean if that didn't

54:25

get you fired up He looked really great is

54:28

you also got I mean you got Lin

54:30

door locked into a deal that I Mean

54:33

is he worth 34 million bucks a year no no

54:36

I mean is Brandon Nemo worth what you're paying

54:38

him No, it's Jeff McNeil worth I've

54:41

had about enough for Jeff because he's done He's been bad

54:43

too. Yeah, that was a great catch a great catch But

54:46

tell me to watch just I mean talk about bad body

54:48

language I mean he's got

54:50

some of the world and if you're gonna

54:52

hit 240 with no no power I mean

54:55

it's it's tough Joe at MetLife Stadium. Hi

54:57

Joe you're on 9870 ESPN. Good

54:59

morning gentlemen I want to congratulate you on

55:01

your win because my brother bet against you

55:03

I bet for you see he was there

55:05

It was a great show he said But

55:08

Rick you've been on fire lately Rick be honest with

55:10

you Nixon five

55:13

and Rangers in six how

55:15

much money did you win? Honestly

55:18

$500 all right wow that's big money good for

55:20

you. Did you did you get some odds? No,

55:24

just straight up because he's an Armani

55:26

tumor guy And I love you guys,

55:28

and I always called up and neither

55:30

And I always said my boys are

55:32

gonna beat you and what would

55:34

she say when you would say that on her show? I don't

55:36

know your ball your big ball or down there Delaware My

55:40

brother is not me But

55:42

listen it was my brother had a great time

55:44

He didn't get a chance to meet you, but

55:46

he owes me $500 so

55:48

you're gonna collect on that right oh 100%

55:52

come on now and listen Giants go over

55:54

nine and Jets

55:56

go over 10 this year. I'm gonna be honest with you.

55:59

What you think the Giants? go over nine? That's

56:01

what he said. Over nine. Yes, for some reason

56:03

I just got that inclination. There's no way the

56:05

over under for the Giants can be nine though.

56:07

No. I think they go over nine wins

56:09

though. I think the over under for the Giants is like seven and a

56:11

half wasn't it? That even seems high. RJ,

56:14

will you check that for me please? Seven and a half.

56:16

So eight to win. Yeah, I guess it's possible. Over nine

56:18

means they're gonna get they're gonna go to a ten and

56:20

seven or better. Well, you're not gonna get a

56:22

half a win are you? Anywhere. That'll be

56:25

unlikely. Right. So ten and seven and Jets

56:27

go over ten so he thinks the Jets are 11 and six

56:29

or better. It'd be a hell of a New York

56:31

football season. It really would be. It'd

56:33

be a hell of a New York football season. But yep, the

56:36

Jets have that kind of potential. Jets

56:38

go in 12 games here. Right. Offensive line holds up

56:40

and Aaron Rodgers is what we hope he can be. Well

56:42

he better be. For some reason, there's no reason he

56:44

shouldn't be. It doesn't feel like there's any reason. You

56:47

asked for the Giants. Giants. What do

56:49

you think of this? Seven. All right.

56:51

Six and a half. Six and a half spot on. This

56:54

gig was over nine. That's what he feels. He's on

56:56

a fight. He's on fire. He just won 500 bucks on us. Good. Right.

57:00

And we were heavy underdogs. Here's

57:02

the one thing I will say too before we go to break,

57:05

just this old Piedelonzo thing, is sometimes

57:07

the hardest thing to do as an athlete

57:09

is really

57:12

kind of embrace who

57:15

you are. Like I was the kind

57:17

of person and I knew it, that trying

57:19

to play out a contract year and

57:22

get that big deal would probably not be great for

57:24

me. I always crazy. So you wanted the stability.

57:26

I wanted the security just because I knew with the amount of

57:28

pressure I put on myself, I can only imagine if this is

57:30

your one shot at free agency what that would do to me.

57:33

And you see what's happening. I don't know if Pete's

57:35

that kind of guy, but it looks like he might be. Glaber

57:38

Tor is dealing with the same thing. He's been

57:40

a real bad. And there are some guys like Aaron

57:42

Judge, probably probably because he was pissed

57:44

off. It's like, you know what? Doesn't affect him. Yep. It's

57:46

a good point. Let's take a break. 1-800-919-3776. You can line

57:48

them up now because

57:52

we're going to get to your Knicks call. Up

57:54

1-0. Favorable officiating? Sure.

57:56

Does it matter? Not at all. Knicks up one

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