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Pushkin. Hi,

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It's Dave Coulie, the host of the true crime

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podcast Cold. This season, I investigate

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the disappearance of Shari Warren, a young

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mother looking for a fresh start in

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the process of a divorce. She'd moved back

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in with her family, found a great new job and

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even a new boyfriend. Her life was

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turning around and things were looking up for the

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first time in years. But on

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one October evening, Shari said

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goodbye to her co workers, left the office

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and was never heard from again. All

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eyes quickly turned toward her estranged husband.

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He had a history of violence, having

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previously lured another woman into the mountains

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and beat her with a tire iron. But

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there was also another man that piqued the

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interest of investigators, Sharie's

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new boyfriend, a former reserve police

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officer who also had a dark

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history of sexual violence. The

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two men closest to Sharie, one

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swore he loved her, the other seemed

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not to care. But did one of them

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murder her? I'm about to play a

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clip from Cold, the search for Sharie.

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rain drizzled over the canyon of the South Fork

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of the Ogden River. It pattered

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on the canvas top of Heidi Posnine's jeep

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she drove up Utah State Highway thirty nine

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on the morning of Friday, June fourth, nineteen

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seventy one. She

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was on her way to meet the strange man who had for

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weeks been calling her demanding they

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go on a date. I can't see

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it, but I'm doing air quotes. She

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turned right off the highway at the entrance to the

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Meadows Campground, crossed a

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short bridge over the river barely more

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than a creek really, and stopped

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next to a camper trailer on the far side.

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A pair of Sheriff's deputies dressed as fishermen

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stepped out to greet her, and I said, what should

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I do? And he said, we just

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pull across the street and

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then leaves the jeep part thanks

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the sideways, you know what I mean. As Heidi's

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describing this to me decades later, she's

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using her hands to show the positions of her jeep

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and the trailer. How the deputies

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told her to park next to them, but to

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reverse out after the caller arrived and passed

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by her position to block him from

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getting back across the bridge to the road. She

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was the cheese on the mouse trap, and

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they said make sure when he comes up,

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identify, make sure that he's

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the right person. Two

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miles down the canyon, back in the direction

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of Huntsville, her husband, John Posneen,

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waited at another campground called

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Magpie. The sheriff was

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with him, along with the deputy, Halver Bailey.

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They all watched the highway as the clock

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ticked toward the time for Heidee's date

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to arrive. A little

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after ten am, a red and white

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half ton pickup truck passed Magpie.

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Going up the canyon toward Meadows. John

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Posney saw a logo printed on the truck's

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door and a dummy. He was driving

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his dad's business. Truck

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said Hartman Plumbing,

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And when day Joe passed Magpie, johns

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he immediately knew who it was. Hartman

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Plumbing and Heating belonged to a man named

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Bill Hartman. John knew

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Bill. They had golfed together at the Ogden

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Golfing Country Club. Bill was

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also a fellow member of the Weeber

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Club. The caller had

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told Heide he had seen her at the Weeber Club.

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It clicked for John. He recognized

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the man at the wheel of the pickup as

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Bill Hartman's oldest son, Carrie

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Hartman. The sheriff tried

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to radio the two undercover deputies who were

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with Heidi at Meadows to let them know that the collar

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would soon reach them, but the radio

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didn't work in the narrow canyon.

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Heidi had no idea who

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the young man in the pickup truck was when

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he turned off the highway, drove

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across the bridge and stopped

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next to her. Gene No, because I never

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paid any attention to him before. I didn't notice

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him before the young man rolled

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down his window. Heid he saw he

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had brown hair, green eyes, and appeared

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clean cut, like a cop or military

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man. Kind of forgettable.

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He said, high, I can't remember exactly,

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And then I said, why would

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you pick on an old lady like me? And he made

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some remark that I was a sexier, prettier

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something. You know, you're not an old lady at

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this point though, Oh gosh, no, But

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I was way older than he was. I already

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had kids, you know teenagers.

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So yeah, I was an old lady. Carry

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Hartman was twenty two to Hide's thirty

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six. And he kept looking at that trailer,

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and he was getting a little nervous, and

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he said, I'm gonna

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pull up there. Why don't you follow me up there? By?

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Up there, Carrieman farther into the campground

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behind a line of trees out of side of the road.

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He drove past her up around a bend. Heidi

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put her jeep in reverse, pulled out, and blocked

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the narrow road, just as the deputies

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had instructed. She then leaped from

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the jeep and rushed into the safety of their

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trailer. The deputies

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told her to stay put, then went to

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stand next to the jeep. Heidi

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poured herself a cup of coffee. With shaking

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hands, she listened for the

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sound of the pickup. It returned

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after a few minutes. Heidi

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peeked out the window as the deputies pulled

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Carrie out of the truck and placed him under arrest.

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They frisked him, finding a small knife

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in his pocket. Then they tried to

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call their backup down at the Magpie campground,

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only to discover their radios didn't work. In the

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canyon either. So the

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deputies piled into Carrie's truck and drove

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it and him down the canyon

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to meet with the sheriff. I stayed awhile

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because I was all nervous.

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I guess whatever. I'd

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had my coffee, and then I got in the cheap and I

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drove down and they were already gone. So only

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later did Heidi learn from her husband John

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what had happened. When Carrie had arrived in handcuffs

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at Magpie, John, she

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told me, had turned to the sheriff.

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He says, boy, you'd like to smack him

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in the mouth, And he says well, and looked the other way.

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So they had him already out,

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and John touched him and

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he was embarrassed. He looked down and he says,

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I wish you had a gun and shoot me. Really

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yeah, he said that because he was embarrassed.

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He was ashamed. John

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posnine had punched carry Hartman in

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the face while the sheriff and his deputies

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looked the other way. Needless

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to say, this wasn't legal. The

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deputies had then taken Carry to the Weaver County

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Jail in Ogden, where they had booked him on suspicion

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of making threatening phone calls, a

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minor misdemeanor charge that

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didn't quite match the gravity of the whole

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situation. Carrie

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provided a handwritten statement admitting to what

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had happened. I called the lady and

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said, would you meet me at a time and place.

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If not, some harm would come to your husband's

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car and possibly him. That's

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not Carrie's voice, but they are his words

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read by a voice actor. Even

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today, Heidi downplays

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this seriousness of what happened well, because

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he really hadn't done anything other than met

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me. But I'm here to tell

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you there was something much more

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ominous behind those phone calls,

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something that makes Heidi's mouth go dry and

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her hands fidget when she really stops to

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think about it. This season

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isn't about Heidi Posning, as I said

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earlier. It's about the disappearance of Shari

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Warren. But there's a reason we're

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starting with Heidi instead of Shari.

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It's because Carrie Hartman, the man

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who tried to lure Heidi up that canyon,

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would years later meet, befriend

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and woo Sharie Warren.

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Our story begins with a phone call.

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Voice on the phone set, I was sexy. He

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had made literally thousands of those types calls.

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He follows the women gets to know him

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and then hit, then don't

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reporting nobody. The fife out everything.

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There are a lot of missing girls, escalates.

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She was beaten, stabbed until the knife

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broke, and then shot twice in the head. Sharie

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Warren disappeared in the fall of nineteen eighty

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five. Her friends and family say she's not the

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type to just run away. She wouldn't leave

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her child. No one can say just what

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happened to Sharie. No one's faced

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charges for her disappearance, not her

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ex husband Chuck Warren. Money

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was a big issue, he told

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her. If I can't have you, nobody's going to not.

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Sharie's boyfriend Carrie Hartman careful

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with him, yet too dispositions Doctor

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Jekyll, mister Hyde. He could be the nicest

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guy you ever wanted me, but he

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also had that sinister side. Hey,

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