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couple of months ago, I found myself watching
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an old interview from The Late Show with
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David Letterman. Ladies and gentlemen, this is
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his first time with us. Please welcome Peter
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Falk. Peter!
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As the actor Peter Falk loped
0:53
onto the stage, his gray hair standing
0:56
out against his black leather jacket.
0:57
The audience greeted him with
1:00
a roar. They
1:02
love you. That
1:07
must make you feel very, very nice. By
1:10
this point in his career, Falk had played
1:12
almost a hundred different roles, but he
1:14
was beloved for one in particular.
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I'm just another cop.
1:19
My name is Columbo. I'm a lieutenant. Lieutenant
1:22
Columbo, who has no first name, was
1:24
the star of the smash detective series
1:26
Colombo, which aired on and off
1:28
for 30 years, beginning in the 1970s. In
1:32
every episode, the brilliant yet unassuming
1:34
Colombo doggedly pursued high-class
1:37
murderers while wearing a scruffy brown raincoat,
1:40
chomping on a cigar, and absentmindedly
1:42
mentioning his wife. Now,
1:44
the worst cook in the world, but
1:46
there's one thing I do terrific, and that's an
1:48
omelet. Even my wife admits it.
1:51
And just when his investigation seemed
1:53
to have hit a dead end, he'd
1:55
circle back to ask. Oh, listen,
1:57
just one more thing. I
1:59
want One more thing, sir. Listen, one more thing.
2:02
It'll just take a second. The
2:04
show also had a very particular
2:07
structure. Well, in a manner of speaking,
2:10
this isn't really a whodunit. It's more
2:12
of a how we hit it. Each
2:15
episode begins with the murder. The
2:18
audience sees the crime, sees
2:20
who the killer is and how they kill
2:22
before Columbo even appears
2:25
on screen. Then the audience
2:28
gets to watch Columbo engage
2:30
in a battle of wits with the murderer, who
2:32
underestimates the schlumpy lieutenant,
2:34
until it's too late.
2:37
You're very lucky, Lieutenant. No.
2:42
Congratulations, you're very smart.
2:46
The pleasure of the show isn't nerve-wracking
2:49
suspense. It's the satisfaction
2:51
of watching Columbo unravel
2:54
the mystery. a satisfaction
2:56
that has helped make the show a hit all
2:58
over the world.
3:01
It's very, very popular in
3:03
Romania. In Romania. This is
3:06
Falk on Letterman again. He's sitting in one of
3:08
those big late night armchairs and
3:10
he takes a sip from a coffee mug and
3:12
launches into a story.
3:13
As a matter of fact, about 10 years ago,
3:16
I got a call from the State Department and a guy
3:18
called me up and he says, we got a problem in Romania,
3:20
maybe you can help us.
3:23
—Faulk was chatting with Letterman in March of 1995,
3:25
10 years prior was during the Cold War,
3:29
when Romania was under the control of a particularly
3:32
cruel and autocratic communist dictator.
3:35
Faulk tells Letterman he was asked to meet
3:37
two men from the State Department and one
3:40
from the Romanian embassy, maybe even
3:42
the ambassador himself, at a hotel
3:45
room in Los Angeles. There,
3:47
they explained that the Romanian government
3:49
had aired every episode of Colombo
3:52
available.
3:52
Okay, so what's the problem? He
3:55
said the problem is that
3:57
the people don't believe the government.
3:59
They told that the Romanian people
4:01
were clamoring for more Colombo, and
4:04
they believed the communist government
4:06
had it, that
4:07
they were sitting on a pile of fresh
4:09
episodes, keeping those episodes
4:11
from them the way it withheld
4:14
so many other things.
4:16
And they were mad, and Romanian
4:19
officials were worried. So
4:22
what do you want me to do? He said, we
4:24
got a camera here. Would
4:27
you talk to the people we got, we got phonetic Romanian
4:30
here. And
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I gotta tell the people, I gotta tell the people, put
4:35
down your guns. They
4:38
were
4:38
arming themselves over this? My God!
4:41
It was that severe. Yes, I guess so.
4:44
Why would the Romanian ambassador come
4:46
here today? Faulcon Letterman
4:48
bantered a bit more
4:49
until Letterman seemed ready to move on. That's
4:52
good. We want to... Is that a good story? It's
4:54
an excellent story. And
4:58
it is an excellent story. But
5:00
listening to it, I couldn't help wondering, is
5:03
it true?
5:13
This is Dakota Ring. I'm Willa Paskin.
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When I first saw Peter Fox interview with
5:18
David Letterman after it went viral
5:20
not so long ago, I had to
5:23
know more. Did Colombo
5:25
and Romania really have a special
5:27
relationship? Could a fictional American
5:30
detective really have helped calm
5:32
a communist revolt? Had
5:34
Falk actually recorded this
5:37
message? And if so, why?
5:39
And how? Or was this whole
5:41
story too good
5:42
to be true? I
5:45
couldn't find the recording in any of the usual
5:47
easy places, so I donned the proverbial
5:49
raincoat and started sleuthing. At
5:52
which point, Falk's late-night anecdote
5:54
cracked open into an intricate geopolitical
5:56
saga that stretches from DC
5:59
to Bucharest. from a Los Angeles hotel
6:01
room to the palatial estate of a despot.
6:04
It's a story that involves dueling ideologies,
6:06
dozens of diplomats, and millions
6:08
of viewers. It's an honest-to-goodness
6:11
Cold War caper about American soft
6:13
power behind the iron curtain,
6:16
and it's so involved it's going to take us two
6:18
episodes to solve. So
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today on Decodering, the first
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half of a very cold case, did
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Peter Fox appearance on Romanian
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So
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let's go with this whole I'm a detective
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thing for a minute. I wanted
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to start with the basics. What
7:51
was the deal with Columbo anyway? You
7:53
know, Colombo,
7:54
you're almost likeable
7:56
in a shabby sort of way. Maybe
7:59
it's the way... Come slouching in here
8:01
with your shop-horned bag of tricks.
8:05
Me? Tricks?
8:08
Peter Falk was born in 1927 to
8:11
Jewish parents who were themselves the children
8:13
of Eastern European immigrants. At
8:15
just three, he had his cancerous right eye
8:17
removed, and he wore a prosthetic from then on,
8:20
one that gave him a perpetual squint.
8:23
The key to
8:23
it is when you realize you can get a laugh with
8:26
it. This is Falk later in life, talking to
8:28
the hosts of The View. By the time
8:30
I was in high school, that's a true story. I
8:34
was playing baseball, the umpire called me out,
8:36
it was a bad call, everybody saw it. And
8:40
I whipped out the eye and I handed it
8:43
to the umpire. I
8:45
said, try this one.
8:46
Falk broke
8:48
out in 1960 in an Academy
8:51
Award-nominated dramatic role as a bloodthirsty
8:53
gangster, but he could always
8:56
do comedy. He
8:57
has that unique, lackadaisical comic
8:59
timing, the way he can't be rushed,
9:02
the way he moseys through his sentences
9:04
and comes back around when you least expect
9:07
it.
9:08
You know exactly the comic timing
9:10
of Columbo. He has many
9:12
of the same idiosyncratic
9:14
characteristics of the cop.
9:17
He's rather sloppy, he's forgetful.
9:20
William Link was the co-creator of Columbo,
9:22
and he's heard here giving an oral history to the
9:24
Television Academy. But in his
9:26
acting, he's obsessed. I
9:29
mean, he's really dead onto
9:31
it in a very humble, self-effacing
9:35
kind of way. It's Falk. So
9:38
he had that to draw on, that
9:41
whole well of personality quirks
9:43
to bring to that cup. When
9:46
Falk was cast as Columbo, the character
9:49
had actually been kicking around for a while, appearing
9:51
in a stage play and a TV movie. But
9:54
as soon as Falk got the role, he made
9:56
it his own. Colombo's signature
9:58
brown raincoat even came from Fox's
10:01
own closet. Fox and
10:03
the raincoat debuted as Columbo in the 1968
10:06
NBC TV movie, Prescription
10:08
Murder, about a psychiatrist trying to get
10:10
away with killing his wife.
10:12
Come on, buddy, you are magnificent.
10:15
You really are. What
10:17
makes you say that, Doc? You're the most persistent
10:20
creature I've ever met. An
10:22
11-year-old named Mark DeWidziak was watching.
10:25
I was just getting into mysteries, and my idea of mystery
10:27
was that, well, of the detective,
10:30
you follow Sherlock Holmes, you follow the clues,
10:33
and eventually you reach the
10:35
point where the detective says, and
10:37
the murderer is. And this starts
10:40
with you knowing who the murderer is.
10:42
Marc is talking about Columbo's structure
10:44
again. Unlike most mysteries, Columbo
10:46
unfolds in chronological order.
10:49
The details of the murder are right
10:51
there at the beginning of the story,
10:53
instead of being saved for the climactic
10:56
end. to an 11-year-old, that
10:58
just took the top of my head off. Mark
11:00
liked what he saw so much that when he grew
11:02
up, he became a TV critic and the author
11:05
of The Colombo File, spelled P-H-I-L-E,
11:09
a book about the series. But as
11:11
a kid, he'd have to wait to see more of it.
11:14
Prescription Murder was just a one-off, a TV
11:16
movie. It wasn't until three years
11:18
later that NBC decided to turn Colombo
11:20
into a regular event. And
11:22
even then, they couldn't make it weekly.
11:25
What kind of movie career to think about? So
11:27
what do we do? That's where they
11:30
come up with the whole idea of the mystery movie.
11:32
It's not going to air every week. It's going to air every
11:35
four weeks. It'll rotate with
11:37
three other detective characters. We don't have
11:39
to do 22 episodes. We can
11:41
do seven or eight episodes a year. Colombo
11:45
premiered in September of 1971 on a Wednesday night. I
11:49
kind of knew it right from the start. There's
11:52
nothing definite. It's a lot of little things
11:56
Little things.
11:57
The episode was directed by a very young Steven
12:00
Spielberg. Immediately it was
12:02
a smash, a water cooler show
12:05
that people were talking about. Audiences
12:07
watched in droves.
12:09
Well it's terrific to win.
12:13
It won Emmys. I'm trying to figure
12:15
out some way to look you're humble. Falk
12:20
became the highest-paid TV actor in
12:22
Hollywood. Celebrities lined up to
12:24
play murderers. Faye Dunaway,
12:26
Dick Van Dyke and Johnny Cash all
12:28
played killers on the show. William
12:31
Shatner did it twice. Simultaneously,
12:34
Universal, the entertainment company that owned
12:37
and distributed Columbo, began to license
12:39
the show around the world. As
12:41
Johnny Carson noted to Peter Falk in 1973. Your
12:44
show is in Japan and a lot of the foreign
12:47
countries. You ever seen it in Japanese or anything? I've
12:49
never seen it in another tongue, Johnny.
12:50
The series would ultimately air in
12:53
over 40 countries and Falk would come
12:55
to revel in stories of its global
12:57
success. There was one about the the Italian
13:00
director Federico Fellini leaving dinner
13:02
parties early to watch Colombo. One
13:04
about the Emperor of Japan asking
13:06
if Colombo can meet him at the White House. One
13:09
about Falk being recognized while filming movies
13:11
high up in the Andes Mountains and on the
13:14
bombed-out streets of West Berlin. Mark
13:16
Dewidziak heard all of these anecdotes
13:18
from Falk firsthand when he was
13:20
writing his book.
13:22
Peter loved telling stories and Peter loved
13:24
telling his favorite stories. He got so tickled.
13:27
His favorite story was Romania.
13:31
Romania sits on the eastern edge of Europe,
13:33
bordered by five different countries and
13:35
the Black Sea. It is a population of around 19
13:38
million, most of whom speak Romanian,
13:40
a romance language similar to Italian.
13:43
The most famous Romanians outside
13:45
of Romania are the absurdist playwright
13:48
Eugenio Nesco, the gold medal winning
13:50
gymnast Nadia Comonici and Dracula.
13:53
Transylvania is now a part of
13:55
Romania.
13:57
Mark DeWidzeyax's fault told him his
13:59
Romania story. during their very first sit-down
14:01
around 1986.
14:04
I did the interview in his art studio,
14:07
which is actually his garage at his Beverly Hills
14:09
house. He had converted into a sort
14:11
of an art studio man cave. This is
14:13
what you know, what's said to me that night. He
14:16
said, the Romanian government called
14:18
the American ambassador and they had a meeting.
14:19
It's similar to the version Focke told
14:22
on Letterman. So I end up in
14:24
a hotel room at one in the morning. Though
14:26
not identical. They've got a
14:28
camera set up and I'm speaking Romanian
14:31
phonetically.
14:32
And I say, put down your guns,
14:35
be patient. Your government
14:37
is not responsible. If Peter's stories
14:39
were truthful, but were they
14:41
embellished? Was it one in the morning? I
14:44
don't know.
14:45
What stands out
14:47
as embellished to me isn't the
14:49
time of night it happened, though
14:52
it changes where it happened,
14:54
though the hotel changes or who was
14:56
there when it happened. Though
14:59
that changes too. It's how
15:01
dramatic the whole thing was. It's
15:03
hard to believe Romanians were really up
15:05
in arms about Colombo. But let's imagine
15:08
for a minute they were. Why
15:10
would Peter Falk be telling them to stand
15:12
down? Wasn't this the Cold
15:15
War? In his 2006 memoir,
15:17
Just One More Thing, Falk tells
15:19
an even more detailed version of the
15:22
In it, he says the Romanian ambassador
15:24
himself asked Foc to say
15:27
on film about the Romanian communist
15:30
regime, I'm here to
15:32
tell you that you should trust your government.
15:35
It tells you the truth. Believe
15:38
me when I say that.
15:41
And then Foc writes that after
15:43
some initial hesitation, but
15:45
with US State Department officials
15:48
in the room, he did. It's
15:52
all so preposterous and far-fetched
15:54
it's hard to believe, if
15:57
not for the next
15:58
clue.
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I mentioned earlier that Peter Falk's interview
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with David Letterman went viral. It
17:46
did that back in June of 2021, thanks to Radu Tikhinash.
17:50
Like many other Romanians,
17:52
I did grow up watching a lot of Colombo and I
17:55
was a big Colombo fan. Rado grew
17:57
up watching the show in Romania during the 1990s.
18:00
But during the pandemic, at home
18:02
in Bucharest, Romania's capital, he
18:04
found himself watching the show again. He wasn't alone in this.
18:08
Lockdown turned the cozy, well-crafted
18:10
Columbo into a sleeper hit. He
18:12
wanted to learn more about the show, and
18:14
so he started poking around online.
18:16
There's basically three or four videos about
18:19
Columbo on YouTube as far as I could see.
18:22
Radu is a freelance writer and video editor,
18:24
so he decided to make a Columbo video
18:26
of his own. He wanted to explore an unsourced
18:28
anecdote anecdote he'd read years earlier
18:31
about how Peter Falk had once
18:34
taped a PSA to Quel riots
18:36
in Romania. Let's do a
18:38
quick five-minute video on this
18:41
weird story about Peter Falk
18:43
apparently stopping
18:45
the revolution 15 years before
18:48
it actually happened or some weird
18:50
stuff like that. So Radu started to look into
18:52
the story in earnest. He came
18:54
across a mention of Peter Falk's David Letterman
18:57
interview, which Radu to that point had never
18:59
heard about, let alone seen. But
19:01
it was nowhere online until
19:03
Radu emailed a Letterman fan, an unofficial
19:06
archivist, who sent it to him.
19:07
For over 20 years, our first
19:09
guest has starred as the beloved Lieutenant Colombo.
19:12
Radu found something else, too, an article
19:15
about Fox Story with a WikiLeaks
19:17
link in it. WikiLeaks is the giant
19:19
cache of various government documents
19:21
that went online in 2007. And
19:24
this particular link was to an American
19:26
cable, It's self unclassified.
19:29
And then I had the idea of like, hey,
19:31
maybe there's more. Let's give
19:33
a quick search. And then I search
19:35
for Peace or Falk. I search for Columbo.
19:37
I search for concerns individually. And
19:41
lo and behold. American
19:44
Embassy, Bucharest to USIA
19:46
Washington, DC. Between
19:48
April and June of 1974, eight
19:51
official diplomatic cables were sent
19:53
between the American Embassy in Bucharest
19:55
and Washington, D.C. about
19:58
Peter Falk. Romanian
20:00
TV requests a short, two-
20:02
to three-minute optical, 16-millimeter
20:04
sound film clip of star Peter
20:06
Falk.
20:07
The back and forth corroborates a number
20:09
of things about Falk's story. For
20:12
one, the U.S. government really
20:14
did reach out to him.
20:16
Falk willing to make Colombo
20:18
closing. For another, Romania
20:21
really had run out of Colombo
20:23
episodes. Romanian TV
20:25
says it aware that Colombo is still
20:27
in production, but notes that it has run
20:30
all episodes received thus far and
20:32
must fill space on weekly basis.
20:36
But the cables do not substantiate
20:38
many of Falk's details. There's
20:40
no mention of armed or incensed
20:43
Romanians, no midnight meetings,
20:45
no Romanian ambassadors present
20:47
and no communists insisting Falk
20:50
tell people to trust them.
20:52
The first Falk
20:54
interview is as follows. Oh,
20:57
excuse me. Do you have a minute? I'm
20:59
Lieutenant Columbo. Sometimes I'm known
21:01
as Peter Falk.
21:03
In fact, the transcript included in
21:05
the cables, relaying what Falk apparently
21:08
said is tame.
21:10
We would like to thank Romanian
21:12
television for having put us on the air on
21:14
Saturdays and Sundays. But most of
21:16
all, all of us, myself and the crew
21:18
and the other actors, we want to thank
21:20
the Romanian people for their great response
21:22
to our show.
21:24
But according to the cables, even this generic
21:27
greeting was a big deal. Judging
21:30
from comments of embassy, foreign service
21:32
locals, and other Romanians, Fox
21:35
Greetings and his use of Romanian language
21:37
tagline created minor sensation
21:39
here.
21:42
The last cable, sent back after
21:45
the message aired, says that Romanian
21:47
television reported 10 million
21:50
people watched it. That
21:52
was about half the population
21:54
at the time. Why would
21:56
Romania have wanted an American
21:58
star like Peter? Falk reaching
22:01
half of its population. Seems
22:03
weird for one, Romania,
22:08
the Communist Party to do such a thing without
22:11
any ulterior motive. And it would also
22:13
seem weird for Peter Falk or the
22:16
American State Department to
22:18
give into such a request without
22:20
getting something in return.
22:22
Weird is right. What was
22:25
the nature of Romania and America's
22:27
relationship that they would be working
22:29
together on something like this.
22:32
I had to know more about Romania.
22:35
["The Star-Spangled Banner"]
22:39
So as a detective, sometimes
22:42
you need to learn some history. At
22:45
the end of World War II, Europe was carved
22:48
up by the victorious Allied powers
22:50
into spheres of influence. The Soviet
22:52
Union's authority extended to eight nations
22:55
that would become satellite states known as
22:57
the Eastern Bloc.
22:59
It is necessary to remember that
23:01
these are all separate countries, but
23:04
the fact that each is communist and
23:06
the fact of their physical proximity to
23:08
each other enable us to consider
23:10
them as a unit.
23:13
Romania was a part of this unit. In 1944,
23:16
the Soviets directly occupied the country
23:19
and would remain for more than a decade. I
23:22
am old enough, usually I was born
23:24
in 47, to have gone through
23:26
some of these phases of
23:29
the communist takeover.
23:31
Ioana Ironim Latham is a Romanian
23:33
poet, playwright, and author. At
23:35
the time she was born, Romania was in the midst
23:38
of massive social and political
23:40
upheaval. As communism was enforced
23:42
on the country, the mostly agrarian
23:45
nation was collectivized. A secret police
23:47
called the Securitate was established,
23:49
and purges and mass arrests were
23:51
common.
23:52
It was horrible in the 50s.
23:54
Political presence was full and people disappeared
23:56
from home. In 1958, Soviet troops began to
24:00
to pull out of the country. It remained
24:02
communist, but by the early 1960s, things felt different.
24:06
I was still a schoolgirl, and I
24:08
remember you could almost feel it
24:10
in the air that I was a change. It
24:13
was exactly 20 years after our
24:15
having been taken over, and
24:18
it became more relaxed. This
24:20
period is known as a thaw, and
24:22
as part of the warming, newsstands
24:24
carried Western papers, Romanian rock
24:26
and roll band started to appear, and
24:28
foreign films and series aired on television.
24:32
It's very simple. I don't
24:34
like being a cog in the machine. Being one of the millions
24:36
of ants that devour the dragon is all very noble,
24:39
but it's not half as much fun as being St. George,
24:41
is it?
24:42
The spy show The Saint, starring the
24:44
future James Bond Roger Moore,
24:46
became Appointment TV on Saturday
24:49
nights, airing thanks to an agreement
24:51
between Romanian state television, TVR
24:54
and the BBC to license shows
24:57
cheaply.
24:58
Also during the 1960s, programming
25:00
increased to about eight and a half hours a day.
25:03
The number of people with televisions rose
25:05
tenfold. A second channel was
25:07
added
25:08
and Romania got a new leader.
25:16
Nikolai Ceausescu was a longtime member
25:19
of the Communist Party who became General secretary
25:21
in 1965 and then president in 67.
25:25
Around this time, a British student named Dennis
25:27
de Letante began studying at a Bucharest
25:29
University where he is housed with three Americans.
25:33
Every week, the Securitati,
25:35
the secret police would come to
25:37
our rooms and rummage through our belongings
25:40
and leave very clear evidence
25:43
that they have been in our rooms.
25:45
Dennis went on to become a scholar of Romania
25:47
at University College London and the author
25:50
of dozens of books about the country. And
25:52
he's now a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson Institute.
25:54
He says that this was a time of great change.
25:57
Romanians were not seeking to break away.
26:00
from Soviet influence, but they were
26:02
seeking a certain amount of autonomy.
26:05
— This was telegraphed to the world in 1968. That
26:09
year, the Soviet Union sent tanks into
26:11
a liberalizing Czechoslovakia to clamp
26:13
down on mass protests known as the
26:15
Prague Spring. But Romania
26:17
refused to support the Soviet
26:20
action. Ceausescu
26:22
even denounced the invasion in a famous speech.
26:26
This was an act of
26:28
defiance for the West, did
26:31
not forget. Richard
26:33
Nixon in particular took notice. As
26:36
president, he pursued a policy called differentiation,
26:39
picking out the communist countries that
26:41
seemed most susceptible to Western
26:44
influence.
26:45
President Nixon and
26:47
his advisors were aware of Ceausescu's
26:50
desire to have closer
26:52
contacts with the United States.
26:54
In 1969, Nixon visited Romania. This
26:58
is an historic occasion. It
27:00
was his second visit in as many years.
27:03
Both times, Ceausescu was savvy enough
27:05
to welcome Nixon with much respect.
27:08
Well, this is not my first visit
27:10
to your country. It is the first
27:12
visit of a President of the United
27:15
States to Romania, the
27:17
first state visit by an American
27:19
President to a socialist country or
27:22
to this region of the continent of Europe.
27:25
Ceausescu would, in turn, visit America
27:27
three times. He'd be knighted by the
27:29
Queen of England and appear on the cover of Time
27:32
magazine as the face of a relaxed
27:34
communism. Romania would join
27:36
the IMF, open a Pepsi Cola
27:39
factory, and be granted most
27:41
favored nation trading status by the
27:43
United States.
27:45
All of this solidified Ceausescu's reputation
27:47
as a maverick communist leader. That
27:49
word maverick was used a lot in
27:51
the press, and one that the U.S.
27:54
wanted to pull closer with trade and
27:56
with culture. The State Department arranged
27:58
visits by the astronauts.
28:00
and a concert tour by the rock band
28:02
Blood, Sweat and Tears, all
28:04
while turning something of a blind eye to
28:06
Ceausescu's domestic policies.
28:08
I think there is this great paradox
28:11
with Ceausescu. So the paradox
28:14
of his, we might say, very inventive,
28:17
ambitious foreign policy and
28:21
the repression, the internal repression.
28:23
This paradox was already
28:26
on display by the early 1970s. birth
28:29
control and abortion had already been banned
28:32
to boost the population. The Securitate
28:34
acted with impunity, and Ceausescu
28:37
announced that all cultural output
28:39
needed to be ideological and nationalistic,
28:42
ultimately putting an end to the thaw. But
28:44
at the same time, Ceausescu's foreign
28:47
policy, with its focus on international
28:50
trade, was boosting material living
28:52
conditions for regular Romanians
28:54
and still allowing for some cultural
28:57
exchange, including of
28:59
television shows.
29:01
Do you just want to tell me your name?
29:05
Alexandrina teacher.
29:06
Alexandrina was in high school in the 1970s,
29:09
living in the same apartment in Bucharest from
29:12
which she spoke with me a few months ago, with
29:14
the help of a translator. So she
29:16
said that in the 70s
29:17
they were having
29:20
streaming from 730 in the
29:22
evening until around midnight. Good
29:24
life
29:25
in this chocolaty. Good
29:28
life in this 70s, comparison
29:31
with the previous years.
29:33
Most of what was on TV was dull, ideological
29:35
and political. Long speeches and footage
29:38
of Ceausescu and his wife Elena visiting
29:40
farms and opening factories. But
29:42
this only made the foreign shows, which
29:44
included Bewitched, The Untouchables, and
29:47
Lost in Space stand out more.
29:50
Alexandrina particularly remembers
29:52
Tom and Jerry, Popeye, Charlie
29:54
Chaplin movies, and especially the
29:57
oil gushing soap opera Dallas.
30:00
But of course, I'd called her to talk
30:02
about one show in particular.
30:04
And do you remember Colombo? Duh,
30:06
duh.
30:07
Alexandrina remembers Colombo's slouchy
30:10
posture, which she imitated as we spoke.
30:12
She remembers his cigar and his clothes,
30:15
which she wondered why he never changed. She
30:17
remembers his French roadster and his love
30:19
of dogs, and that all the murderers
30:22
were wealthy.
30:23
She remembers also like the
30:26
mystery and the best part of the action
30:28
was actually happening in the first minutes,
30:30
because after that, you are knowing what
30:32
happened. She also remembers
30:35
when the show aired
30:36
Saturday nights. She recalled
30:38
that it was an event, the thing to do,
30:41
and she wasn't the only one who told me so. It
30:44
was a national phenomenon. Streets
30:46
were empty. Ioana Yaronim-Latham
30:49
again. Everybody made
30:51
a plan to be there and to see installment
30:54
after installment. It was enormously
30:56
successful, enormously.
30:58
Columbo was so popular it would air
31:00
again on Sundays, and it wasn't the
31:02
only show that cleared the streets in Bucharest.
31:05
Love you, baby. You're
31:08
beautiful.
31:09
Kojak, the cop drama starring
31:11
Telly Savalas that premiered in America in 1973,
31:15
was also a hit with Romanians in the
31:17
mid-1970s. The bald-headed
31:19
Kojak was as debonair as Columbo
31:22
was disheveled, and he sucked on a lollipop
31:24
instead of a cigar. What's with
31:26
the
31:26
lollipops? I'm
31:29
looking to close the generation gap. Get out
31:31
of here. CoJack,
31:33
because he was having
31:35
this lollipop, they created
31:37
lollipops in Romania that they were
31:40
selling in the streets, vendors,
31:43
with CoJack. They called them CoJack, by
31:46
the CoJack. CoJack also
31:48
kicked off a craze for American-style coffee
31:50
mugs and thin cigarettes. It was
31:52
a sensation.
31:54
such a sensation that
31:57
there are American diplomatic
31:59
cables about about it too. March 1975,
32:02
US Berlin
32:04
to Am Embassy Bucharest. Subject,
32:07
Telly Savalas film clip for Romanian
32:09
TV.
32:12
A little less than a year after the Peter Falk
32:14
incident, the US diplomatic corps had apparently
32:17
asked Telly Savalas to do the exact
32:20
same thing. Though Savalas filmed
32:22
in West Berlin, not Los Angeles.
32:26
at the embassy in Bucharest at the time
32:28
must have looked at the popularity of both
32:30
of these shows and seen an opportunity
32:33
to do their job, to
32:35
bring the countries closer together. But
32:38
who exactly? I
32:40
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34:35
So at this point I was pretty confident the incident
34:38
I was investigating had taken place. I
34:40
also had a solid handle on motive,
34:43
on why the message had been made, and
34:45
what the US and Romania both stood
34:48
to gain. But I still didn't know
34:50
the method. The cables didn't get into
34:52
the nitty gritty of how the message was filmed,
34:55
and Falk's version seemed a little over
34:57
the top.
34:58
I wanted to find someone who could tell me what had
35:00
gone down, not give me the dramatic
35:03
late night TV version, but
35:04
the real thing.
35:06
The cables offered up an obvious place
35:09
to begin. At the bottom of the ones coming
35:11
out of Bucharest, there was the same name
35:14
over and over again.
35:15
Please advise if film
35:18
possible and if developed film can
35:20
be here in time for May 15 program,
35:23
post strongly concurs TV request,
35:26
Barnes.
35:27
was the sign off of Harry Barnes,
35:29
the American ambassador to Romania from 1973 to 77. He
35:34
done a previous three-year stint in the country
35:36
and spoke Romanian so fluently he
35:38
acted as Nixon's translator, rare
35:41
for an ambassador. In an interview,
35:43
he recalled of this time, I got
35:45
the sense in Washington that we ought to
35:47
keep looking for opportunities to suggest
35:50
collaborative activities with the Romanians.
35:53
Maybe he looked at Columbo and Kojak
35:56
and thought they could be one of those activities.
35:59
Harry Bar- died in 2012 though,
36:02
so I got in touch with his son Doug. I
36:04
asked him about an infamous incident in which
36:06
Romania's Securitate bugged
36:08
the soul of his father's
36:10
shoe. My sister just went
36:12
and did a trip to D.C. and went to the spy
36:14
museum and sent us all pictures of the shoe,
36:17
which is on display there.
36:18
Doug had never heard anything about the Peter
36:20
Fox segment or the Telly Savalas one either,
36:23
but he'd become a Foreign Service Officer himself,
36:25
and in this capacity, he told me something
36:27
important.
36:28
An ambassador's name is on every
36:31
single cable that leaves an embassy
36:33
as a matter of course. Every single
36:36
telegram as long as he's in the country. So
36:38
though Barnes could have written these cables,
36:40
they also could have been authored by nearly anyone
36:43
at the embassy.
36:44
I asked Doug if you could think of anyone else who might
36:46
remember anything about this, and a
36:48
couple of calls later I reached a man
36:51
named Richard
36:51
Gilbert. I was hosted at
36:53
the U.S. Embassy in Bucharest
36:56
as the cultural attache.
36:58
Richard was there from 1972 to 1976. When I first spoke with him on the
37:00
phone, he told me he remembered
37:04
Colombo's popularity, and we arranged
37:06
a Zoom call. Where it turned out, he
37:08
remembered
37:09
more. I do remember him giving
37:11
his little spiel, I would
37:13
call it. Like other members of the Foreign
37:16
Service, Richard lived in an apartment in Bucharest,
37:18
furnished by the State Department, but provided
37:20
by the Romanians. And one Sunday
37:23
night in 1974, he and his
37:25
family turned on the TV to
37:27
watch Colombo. Quite
37:29
a coup for the Romanians because
37:32
they got Peter Falk to say all
37:34
these positive things about what
37:36
essentially was a rather despotic
37:40
communist government in Eastern
37:42
Europe. Richard doesn't remember much more about
37:44
it, besides part of it being delivered in stilted
37:47
Romanian. We didn't usually
37:49
tune in, but we watched this one,
37:52
certainly because it was so unusual. Do
37:54
you think you knew it was coming and that's why you tuned
37:56
in? I suspect I must have. That's
37:59
why I happen to be watching. I'm not sure
38:01
how we knew, but we did know. In
38:03
your experience or just like knowledge this, is this
38:05
like kind of thing
38:09
common? I mean, my guess would
38:11
be definitely not common.
38:13
I can't imagine such a thing. I just
38:16
find a little head scratching
38:18
how they made contact with Peter
38:20
Fall in the first place.
38:23
I got off this call feeling optimistic. I
38:25
still didn't know the method, but
38:27
I was making progress. Sure,
38:30
it had taken some legwork to find Richard,
38:32
but I could do more legwork.
38:34
I was a detective. I honed in
38:36
on the embassy in Bucharest in 1974,
38:39
tracking down any name mentioned in the cables
38:42
and scouring old Foreign Service telephone
38:45
directories. I got the American
38:47
Foreign Service Association to ask its 16,000
38:50
members if anyone recalled anything
38:52
about it. On a lark, I emailed
38:55
the press officer of Henry Kissinger,
38:57
who was Secretary of State at the time to
38:59
see if Kissinger remembered anything himself.
39:02
He did not. But I was confident
39:05
someone would know something if
39:07
I just kept making phone calls. My
39:10
name is Willa Paskin. I
39:12
make a podcast for the website Slate. This
39:15
is going to be very
39:15
convoluted and I'm just going to babble
39:18
it up. I've got you a couple of messages so I'm sorry to
39:21
keep calling. Just about everyone I
39:23
reached suggested someone else. I'm
39:26
in the middle of sort of obsessively
39:28
reporting out this story,
39:31
and as I said, it's a little bit zany about— — who
39:33
suggested someone else.
39:34
— to basically film— Um,
39:37
oh, uh-oh. Hi,
39:41
sorry, this is Willa again. I'll keep it much shorter.
39:44
— All told, I communicated directly
39:46
with over 20 people who'd been at the embassy
39:48
in Bucharest around 1974. But
39:51
my optimism had been premature.
39:55
Listen, I don't want you
39:58
to waste your time with me. because
40:01
I have no memory whatsoever
40:04
of either
40:06
of those things. I don't remember
40:09
anything about that incident. I'd love
40:11
to read more about it, but you're just
40:14
hitting a blank with me, I'm sorry. Anyway,
40:16
good luck.
40:17
No one recalled it. Like,
40:20
no one. It didn't even ring
40:22
a bell. No one thinks it's real. Not
40:24
one person who was at the embassy at the
40:26
time remembers it. It just
40:29
seems so unlikely."
40:31
I'd begun all of this thinking that Peter
40:33
Falk's story sounded a little exaggerated,
40:36
and wanting to figure out what had really happened,
40:39
and why, and how, and
40:41
what Peter Falk had really said, I'd read
40:44
diplomatic cables and gotten a crash course
40:46
in Romanian history. I'd learned
40:48
Romanian slang for lollipop and yammered
40:51
into more voicemail boxes than I could
40:53
count.
40:54
And from all of this, I had gotten the sense
40:56
that these messages would have been a big
40:59
deal. Peter Fauxshore said
41:01
so, but so did the cables. They
41:04
described Faux's message as a minor
41:06
sensation seen by 10 million
41:08
Romanians. 12 million
41:11
had watched the message with Telly Savalas.
41:14
Moreover, all the people I'd spoken
41:16
with to this point had told me this
41:19
would have been an unusual and creative
41:22
undertaking for any diplomat
41:24
involved.
41:25
So why couldn't I find anyone
41:28
who remembered it? I mean besides
41:30
Richard Gilbert. I
41:32
do remember when Peter
41:35
Falk gave this
41:36
introduction. But as it would
41:38
turn out months later, when I finally
41:41
figured out what really happened with Peter
41:43
Falk's message, Richard Gilbert would
41:45
still be the one and only person
41:47
who ever recalled seeing it. If
41:51
a message gets made for television and
41:53
no one remembers seeing it, did
41:56
it actually happen?
41:57
I was back where I started.
42:03
Next week on Decoder Ring, we get some answers, but
42:05
not before a whole lot more questions. There's
42:08
a couple of loose ends I'd like to tie up. Nothing
42:10
important, you understand, but I
42:13
would like to get them tied up. This is Decoder
42:18
Ring. I'm Willa Paskin.
42:23
You
42:26
can find me on Twitter at WillaPaskin, and
42:28
if you have any cultural mysteries you
42:30
want us to decode, you can email
42:32
us at decodering at slate.com.
42:35
I want to give a special thank you to Andrada
42:38
Lautauro, who translated and worked with
42:40
me from Romania. I'd also like
42:42
to thank Carol and Joel Levy, Jonathan
42:44
Ricker, Alan and Ori Fernandez,
42:47
Katie Coob, Felix Renschler, Richard
42:49
Veitz, Jock Shirley, Gabriel
42:52
Roth, Cameron Gorman, Tori Bosch,
42:54
Delia Maranescu, David Koneg,
42:57
Don Giller, Forrest Backner, Karina
42:59
Popa, David Langbart, William
43:01
Burr, Asger Siegfitzen, John
43:04
Frankensteiner, Tom Hoban, and everyone
43:06
else who helped with this episode. For
43:09
my research into Romanian television, I
43:11
relied heavily on the scholarly work of
43:13
Dana Mustada, Alexandru Matay,
43:16
Anne-Marie Suresko-Marinkovic, and
43:18
the screening socialism project from the University
43:21
of Loughborough. I also relied on the work
43:23
of Denis de la Tante and Timothy W.
43:25
Rybak's Rock Around the Block, a
43:27
history of rock music in Eastern Europe and
43:30
the Soviet Union. You
43:32
also heard a song in this episode from the Romanian
43:35
rock band Phoenix.
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