6:00

Think about that more lately. I'm sure you

6:02

have. Myself. 2020, welcome

6:04

to my world. I mean,

6:06

I've been trying to tell you,

6:08

Hank, that mortality is a huge

6:10

omnipresent problem and you've been like,

6:13

anyway. But

6:16

suddenly, suddenly you're listening. I don't know

6:18

what changed. Yeah. I

6:21

think I'd be happy. I

6:24

want a long life. I'm not going to make

6:26

any bones about it. Yeah. I

6:29

mean, I'm going to get one, but I just want

6:31

you to know if I don't have a long life,

6:33

know that I'm disappointed. That

6:35

sucked. I wasn't happy about

6:37

that. Yeah. But anyway, let's

6:39

talk about Taylor Swift or are we still

6:41

not ready? There

6:44

was also people talking about our

6:46

considerations of the fake sponsors and how much they

6:48

like them, which is nice to hear that you

6:50

like the fake sponsors. We'll think about it. We'll

6:52

feel it out. And also, maybe we'll

6:54

add new segments that you'll like even more. Yeah. It'll

6:58

just be this week in Taylor. Maybe

7:00

it will be. There's a whole podcast

7:02

every episode. We will turn into a

7:04

Taylor Swift podcast. I'd rather turn into

7:06

a podcast that analyzes the life of

7:08

a much smaller celebrity. You know? Oh,

7:11

wow. Just pays a whole lot of attention. Actually,

7:15

I don't think that what the world needs now

7:17

is more celebrity news now that I've thought about

7:19

it. But here's an episode about Taylor Swift. So

7:21

listen. Yeah. Taylor

7:24

Swift is a brilliant community builder. And Hank

7:26

and I have been trying to build communities.

7:28

Like, that's basically what our job has been

7:31

this entire time. Yeah. If

7:33

you ask us what we do at our

7:35

core, that's what we want to do when we grow up, I

7:37

think. And what we've been trying to do for the last 20

7:39

years. And Taylor Swift is such a

7:41

genius at it. And unlike

7:44

certain other people who were also

7:46

geniuses at it, like, hasn't alienated

7:48

or abandoned a huge portion of

7:50

that fandom, which is incredibly difficult.

7:53

But on a personal level, I just have to say,

7:55

like, this is probably the first

7:57

fandom that Alice has really, really been a part of.

12:00

different reason. That would be it. In

12:04

a lot of ways, I think it probably would be bigger news.

12:06

I'll tell you what, it would be great for us. I'm

12:09

not here to tell you to abandon your

12:11

family. I definitely don't think it would. A secret

12:13

relationship with an NFL star. I think that's

12:15

a little contrary to the brand, honestly. Oh, no.

12:18

I think it'd be great for us. At

12:21

least we would sell a ton of those

12:24

socks that you've made. We'd

12:27

be in the zeitgeist. We would be in the zeitgeist

12:29

and we'd be able to sell a bunch of socks. Exactly.

12:32

That's not your goal. Also, you're married. There's that. I

12:35

really like your spouse. I wouldn't want you to switch

12:37

spouses. I feel very good about the current situation. My

12:44

point is that you're on a different level

12:46

from Taylor Swift, but I think in a lot of people's

12:48

imagination, you're not on that different of a level. You're

12:52

both in a situation where you don't need to

12:55

work and yet you work incredibly hard. So

12:57

maybe the reason you want to

13:00

ask Taylor that question is because you want to have

13:02

an answer for yourself. Oh, yeah.

13:04

That is 100% the case. I was

13:07

reading through the people's responses to the census analysis. It

13:09

was like, is there anything that you'd like us to

13:11

know or that you're concerned about? And a

13:13

lot of people were like, I think Hank is

13:15

working too hard and I'm worried about his health.

13:17

Yeah. And this was in

13:19

last December. So it was before the cancer.

13:23

Yeah. And I'm like, oh,

13:25

this feels very like maybe I should have

13:27

been paying more attention to how things were

13:29

going. Not that I think that my cancer

13:32

was caused by stress. I do

13:34

not. But

13:37

it's not just that I got sick. It is

13:39

also that having

13:42

stepped back a little bit, I'm seeing

13:44

things in a different way. Yeah.

13:47

Your work-life balance was way off. Yeah. I'm

13:49

seeing my, not

13:52

vitality, but vitalness, my importance

13:54

less than I did, which

13:58

is good. I think that that's helpful. I think that

14:00

it