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it's me, Namu Lanta Kombu, and you're

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listening to Dear Daughter on the BBC

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World Service. I wish

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that I could say, when I decided to

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get married again, that it was all smooth

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sailing and everyone accepted each other and I'm

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afraid that's not how life works. This

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week, I'm talking to a dad in Saudi

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Arabia. After a

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devastating set of events, he recently

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decided to remarry. It kind

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of brings all these memories of how hard I've worked

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and the number of WhatsApp messages I've written,

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the awkward meetings I've had to get my

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kids to accept the current situation. With

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three children from his first marriage and

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three new stepchildren from his second marriage,

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Rahman tells me all about life,

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blending two families together. My

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dear daughter. Dear daughter. To my

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dearest only daughter. My dear daughters.

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44800 030 4404. So

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why don't you start by just telling us. me and everyone

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that's listening a bit about yourself. Rachman

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Akhtar is my name. I started

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life in Pakistan and having

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been born in the Punjab, I went to

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the UK at a very early age, 4.5,

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and stayed until my

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early 30s, went to

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university in mechanical engineering. And

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like a lot of Asian kids, Pakistani kids, you

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kind of do the degree that your dad wants

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you to do. And it

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really wasn't where I saw my life

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going. So my time immediately after graduating

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was not the typical story of getting

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your first graduate opportunity and then going

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up the ladder. But as

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luck would have it, I married a

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wonderful person, Shafia, who was my rock.

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We had three wonderful kids together and

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I was able to retrain

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myself, get into the world of IT, and

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I had a great opportunity to work in

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Saudi Arabia. So I've been out here for 23

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years now and had a chance to raise the

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family here. Rachman's life seemed

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almost picture perfect. He had a

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stable income, a loving

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partner, and three children, two

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sons and one daughter. And

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then disaster struck. In

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2017, at the end of that year,

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we all went to Pakistan for

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our son's wedding and great, great times for

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us. But that's really

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when the problem started. My wife,

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Shafia, wife of 28 years, fell

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suddenly very ill and she ended

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up going to emergency in Pakistan

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and five days later she left

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us. So this was

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a sudden and unexpected time

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for us. And the other side of the

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story is that miles,

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miles away in the States, another

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family was going through a

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similar shocking situation where they lost

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their father in a car accident

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and that car accident involved them as well. So

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there were two families in different

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parts of the world having this tumultuous

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time and

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our journey in the last

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few years has been to form one

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family. Both Widower came together and all

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the children are now in one family.

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So in total I do have six children

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now. I started off with three with

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two sons and a daughter. As

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I got married I kind of adopted

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these two daughters and a son. And

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the letter that you've written today is to, could

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you explain to

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everyone listening who you've written the letters to.

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I've written the

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letter to all three daughters and

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you know they all mean something very special to me.

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I felt I wanted to put my feelings into words

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to all of them. I think it's great for a

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dad to do that. I think now

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would be a great time to hear your

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letter and chat a bit more about it. Of

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course. My

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dear daughters Nadia, Zara

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and Amani. I'm

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writing to express my gratitude and

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pride for the way you've all

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coped with the incredible challenges thrown

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our way recently. You don't know

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why God takes good people away from us

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and we may even feel angry. But

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with adversity comes opportunity and you

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my girls have embraced

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them fully. If

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there's any silver lining on this cloud I believe

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you've all become better versions of yourself.

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Nadia, you're my oldest. It's

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plain for everyone to see that

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you and I have always enjoyed a special

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bond. Thank you for

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the positive vibes you bring into my life.

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Losing your mother hit all of us hard

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and I know you're

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still struggling in so many ways but you're

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doing it with dignity and you've

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refused to let this tragedy define

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you. Instead you've

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decided to honor your mother's memory by helping

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thousands of others cope with their own grief.

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She's looking down at you with pride

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on her face. You

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seamlessly became a guardian to your younger brother.

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It allowed me the space to cope with

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my grief and navigate my own path back

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to a new normality. We've

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necessarily had some tough conversations, but you've

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always maintained respect for me and

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made me feel supported. You've

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been a cheerleader for my every endeavor and

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I value this more than you'll ever know,

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Nadia. I

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know your every milestone

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evokes that question. What

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if mom were here? From

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the grandsons she never met to

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your fast approaching 30th birthday.

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But you are showing amazing

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resilience. It speaks highly of

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the character your mother helped

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to develop. She lives on

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in your spirit and your deeds. I'm so

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proud of you, Nadia. I love you.

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To my younger daughters, Zara and Amani, you've

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brought a new unexpected happiness and

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a purpose to my life. I

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know that losing your daddy was a

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personal tragedy, but you, your mom and

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your brother stayed strong and

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navigated a new path in life. And

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along this path, you all

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met me. And now I'm truly delighted that you all call me Baba.

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Zara, you're my brother.

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You show maturity beyond your years. You know,

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sometimes I forget that you're only 16. Your

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focus on academics resulting in stellar

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results is so impressive. I

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wish you all the best as you prepare for

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a successful career in medicine. No

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pressure from me. Amani,

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I appreciate your positivity. Your

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child is curiosity and

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your limitless enthusiasm for life. You

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have awesome communication skills

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that are always going to help you make

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connections in life. You've

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transitioned between many countries

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and changed schools and countless

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times without a single complaint.

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Always supporting your mother as she struggles to find

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her feet again in life. This

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makes volumes about your

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character and your resilience. I

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want you to know how proud I am of you. Lots

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of love. You are Baba. Thank

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you. That was very sweet.

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Have you girls heard them? You know, the letters to them.

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I did send them a copy of the

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very first letters I wrote and they all

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said they cried. I hope that

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they hear my words through this podcast and

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see how much I appreciate them and love

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them. Why has that been important to

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you? To let them know. Well,

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the conversations have been an important

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part of our whole recovery process.

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You can imagine that when my

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daughter first lost her mother and when my

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other two daughters first lost their father, you

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feel like your world has collapsed completely. You

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wonder what the future holds for you and

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you go into a little bit of a blind panic. As

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I did myself, you do enter a

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very dark period and at

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the end of the day, it's the conversations that are going

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to get you through. I can't expect

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it's ever easy but for it to be so sudden

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as well. When you

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travel as a family for a very happy time,

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for your son's wedding and then

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for this to happen soon after. Well, first

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thing I'd say, it was really tough

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at the beginning. There's no formula out

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there on how you deal with these situations. One

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minute you're with someone that is with

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you day and night and you discuss

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every detail of life with. We

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were planning to have our retirement together and then

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you're planning where are we going to go live

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and the house we're going to buy and the

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grandchildren we're going to enjoy our life with and

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the next minute they're gone. Suddenly

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you feel very alone. And for

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me, I think I

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brought myself out quicker than I

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thought. I would from that dark

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place by just simply asking myself a

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very very powerful question If

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I sit here for the rest of my life just staring

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down at my feet and being

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depressed and not being myself Who

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would that behavior serve? Does

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it serve me as a person? Does it serve?

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My children who need me now more

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than ever before Does it

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even serve the the memory of my late wife?

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So I picked myself out of the

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situation and decided I was going to live

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life I didn't become a better version of

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myself in terms of my

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connection to my work connection

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to the world my family and Everything

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and so the children got their dad back And

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what about the kids? The kids

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they struggled and to be very honest.

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They're still struggling Nadia

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for example every milestone she goes through

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in life. She feels the

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lack of presence of her mother She

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has had two sons since her mother passed

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away. So those would have been Amazing

11:04

experiences to share with her mother. What

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did you tell or what do you tell

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your kids now? Was

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it any different to what you told yourself because

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sometimes what works for you obviously might not work

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for others All the kids

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have coped in different ways with

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their grief My daughter Nadia very

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communicative and she writes and she

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writes poetry and she's on social

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media Helping other people

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with their grief other young girls who've

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lost their mother and my eldest son

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He's struggled probably more than most because

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he hasn't really put his feelings into

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words He found life without mum really

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difficult because she used to spend a lot of time with

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him I struggle with

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articulating my feelings as well Might

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be surprising to people but I Struggle

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as well because sometimes I feel like the

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words are stuck Inside

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me I can't get them out So

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for me, writing the letters to

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my daughter worked

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so well for me. In your letter,

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you talked about your

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daughter Nadia stepping in and helping to raise her

12:12

brother right after their

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mum died. What was that like, do you

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think, for Nadia? And have

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you talked about it? Well,

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Harun was just short of

12:23

his 12th birthday when Shafia

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passed away. And

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in fact, I remember having a

12:29

little birthday celebration for Harun. I

12:33

was a wreck. I was just crying my

12:35

eyes out because I had never

12:38

imagined having a birthday party for Harun

12:40

without his mother there. Harun

12:42

often says, dad, you know, I only

12:44

got 12 years with mum. And I said,

12:47

you got probably the best 12 years of

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mum. At that

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time, we had been toying around with

12:53

sending Harun to UK to continue his

12:55

studies. And Nadia said that she'd

12:57

be happy to step in. I

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was like a surrogate mother. And they've

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been living happily now for around five years.

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And Nadia has been more

13:06

than a mother to Harun, continued

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his education and values. And

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Harun is now what? He's just turned 18. And

13:16

it's just amazing to see him grow up with

13:19

a new mum. And I'm so,

13:21

so grateful to Nadia for having

13:23

done that. We've had many, many

13:25

conversations, Nadia and I. I

13:28

always express my gratitude for how she's looked

13:30

after her younger brother. And she was exactly.

13:32

She was grieving big time. And

13:35

at that time to suddenly have to look after

13:38

someone else as well. But

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Nadia is one of the strongest people I know. She's

13:42

coped remarkably well. But at the

13:45

end of the day, I needed to also look after me.

13:48

Because if I look after me, then daddy

13:50

or Baba is more able to then look

13:52

after the kids. So I think this is

13:54

one point, you know, even on an aircraft,

13:57

you get to put your oxygen mask on first,

13:59

right? And then you look after the others around

14:01

you. In that situation, I think

14:03

I would be the same, that I had to put my

14:06

oxygen mask on to make myself

14:08

breathe and to connect with life. I said,

14:10

right, okay, now look around. How

14:12

do I deal with this situation? What's

14:15

first? And for me, it was important

14:17

to get married. And

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Rahman wasn't the only person

14:23

thinking this way. Tell

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me how you met your now wife, Nadia.

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So we had some friends in Bahrain, and

14:30

the lady was a very good friend of

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my current wife, Nadia. And

14:35

her husband happened to be a good friend of mine. And

14:39

the husband asked me one day, let's go out from Milla

14:41

when I talk to you about something. And then he said,

14:43

look, Rahman, you know, you've been on your own for a

14:45

little while now. And we happened to know someone who also

14:48

lost her husband around the same time as you lost

14:50

your wife. So how about you guys, you

14:53

know, say hi to each other and see how it goes. I

14:55

remember that at the time I said, listen, no, no, it's

14:57

too early. But we did. We

14:59

did say hello the next day. In

15:02

fact, I offered my condolences to my

15:04

now wife. And I said, look, I heard

15:06

about your husband. That's terrible. I hope you're okay.

15:08

And she sent me a similar polite message.

15:12

But we ended up talking online for

15:14

about eight months, just getting to know each

15:16

other. And then I decided,

15:18

look, it's about time I flew over and

15:21

I met her and the kids. And

15:23

they were in Doha, the capital of Qatar at

15:25

the time. That's where she was working. And

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I met I met Najiya in a hotel lobby.

15:30

We just had a nice coffee together. And the

15:32

next morning I met the kids. And

15:35

that evening I proposed because

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I was that sure by that point that

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this is someone I could live my life with. So,

15:44

yeah, it was very quick. And she responded

15:46

with a yes within milliseconds. Luckily,

15:51

lucky for you. Yeah. I've

15:53

spoken to people about, you

15:55

know, when when's the

15:57

right time to introduce the kids to

15:59

a position. potential partner, whether you're dating

16:02

or getting married. Did the two

16:04

of you talk about when

16:06

would be the right time, how to do it, that type

16:08

of thing? Well, look, in this situation

16:11

particularly, obviously it was

16:13

a big thing on Nadia's mind because

16:15

no matter how well we both got

16:17

on, the kids were going to be a

16:19

big part of the equation, right? And if

16:21

I didn't get on with her

16:24

kids, who are now my kids, it

16:26

probably would have been game over because they're

16:28

going to be part of each other's lives.

16:31

So I did a lot of marketing for

16:33

myself the

16:35

morning when I played a

16:37

shrewd game. Obviously

16:39

over our conversations in eight months, I had got

16:42

to know a lot about

16:44

the kids. Initially when they

16:46

came to see me in the

16:49

hotel foyer, we were all just sitting in

16:51

the lobby and Nadia introduced me to Niall,

16:54

Zara and Amani. I said to

16:56

them, you know, kids, I'm really sorry. I don't

16:58

know what I was thinking. I didn't bring you

17:00

any gifts. I should have bought you something. And

17:02

I looked at the disappointing looks on their faces

17:04

and even Zara said, don't worry,

17:06

next time, don't worry, we're okay. And then I said, hang

17:08

on, you don't really think that I would come all this

17:11

way. And I clicked my fingers and

17:13

the guy from the hotel

17:15

over brought big trolley of gifts over

17:17

big huge boxes. And yeah, exactly. And

17:19

in each

17:22

box was something that I knew that

17:25

all three kids would like. We've been

17:27

friends ever since then. Yeah,

17:30

it's hard enough blending

17:33

two lives together, you know, a couple

17:35

entering a relationship or a marriage to

17:38

then bring six kids into that and

17:41

blending your whole family. What

17:43

was that like? I wish that

17:45

I could say that when all

17:47

of this happened, and when I decided to

17:50

get married again, that it was all smooth

17:52

sailing and everyone accepted each other. And you

17:54

know, we all went through life smoothly. I'm

17:56

afraid that's not how life works. I knew

17:58

that my older three

18:00

children were not just going to suddenly accept

18:03

this new person in our lives and say

18:05

right this is this is mum now and

18:07

I wasn't expecting them to do that to

18:09

be honest so they

18:13

see her more as an auntie figure and

18:15

that's fine with me as long as there's a connection there you

18:18

know it's very hard to see your dad with

18:20

someone all your life your mum and then

18:22

suddenly see him with someone else but the

18:24

conversations I had with my kids were look

18:27

this new wife is my partner in life she's

18:29

the one that I'm going to live the rest

18:31

of my life with but

18:34

she hasn't come to replace your mum

18:36

right and I can't live

18:38

alone I'm not the kind of person who can live

18:40

life by myself my two

18:42

sons my two older sons actually

18:45

attended the wedding in Karachi which

18:47

was a big deal for me

18:49

they've got a lovely family photo

18:52

of me and my wife and you know the

18:54

two sons and her three kids that picture

18:57

will always be a very dear

18:59

picture to me because that was the beginning of our lives

19:01

together you

19:04

know with some of the harder bits could you tell me you

19:07

know anything about some of those harder bits and

19:09

how the family got pulled through them

19:13

for me look it's it's

19:15

the little moments it's a little times

19:17

where you know we're you know spending

19:19

my time for example everyone wants a

19:21

piece of dad and it

19:23

was a lot easier when it was

19:25

just a normal nuclear family that we had mum

19:28

dad and three kids there

19:30

can be moments where I've spent

19:33

more time with the new family and my

19:35

kids are craving my attention and my time

19:37

so they might feel ignored

19:39

and then if I go and spend

19:42

time with Nadia and her family then

19:44

my my new family might

19:46

feel well you know we need your time as

19:48

well so one of the challenges for

19:50

me has been

19:52

having the emotional skill

19:55

to maintain what Are

19:59

good relationships. With.

20:01

My original. Kids my new guess, my

20:03

new ice and even serving the memory

20:05

of my in late twice in the

20:07

way that you. Bring up

20:09

Sasha. And. So that

20:12

your children feel. That. You

20:14

remember them Mom sometimes is

20:16

a difficult for you. You

20:18

know, on one level it could be

20:21

awkward, right? Me? Because obviously I'm I'm

20:23

married to Nigeria now and so that

20:25

when I bring up. Saskia.

20:28

Than am I. You know is that a

20:30

ceiling that I haven't quite let go of

20:32

Socio, her memory and my still in love

20:34

with her or you know is Nadia may

20:37

ask for would way mean in your life

20:39

and the kids. So I'm again that tightrope

20:41

comes in right? The have to be very

20:43

sensitive to the needs of both parties. And

20:46

I have to remember that. Chelsea

20:49

has no longer with us. She's

20:51

passed from. And. My

20:54

responsibility to my late wife.

20:57

Is to remember her. Would.

20:59

Love and respect. And

21:01

maybe to do charity work in

21:04

her name so that you know

21:06

her memory lives on and good

21:08

deeds. But. That's

21:10

where it ends and

21:12

my duties to my

21:14

current wife are to.

21:17

To. Love her! Unconditionally and

21:19

holy and to respect her

21:21

and her wishes. And I

21:23

know that. For. The two

21:26

sets of families at the may

21:28

be moments of awkwardness. Were

21:31

then not jelly as closely as they should.

21:33

As I sit here, it's talking about it.

21:35

It kind of brings all these memories of

21:37

how hard I've worked and the number of

21:39

what's up messages I've written in the voice

21:42

no such. Send them the awkward meetings I've

21:44

had and to get my kids except the

21:46

current situation. And I can imagine

21:48

that. say trump, Everyone needs to release that

21:50

press of all sometimes. When it feels

21:52

a. Bit tough what are you doing

21:54

efforts as I did my first stand

21:56

up comedy performance at the age of

21:59

eleven to get. The horrible negative

22:01

situation. I think having a positive

22:03

mindset and seeing the funny side

22:05

of the positive side of things

22:07

has really really hate me. To

22:10

think it's sure that all comedian. And

22:13

deep rooted the trauma at specific

22:15

yes and this and that suspect.

22:18

Specify that covered comes from Tell me,

22:20

is it true. You.

22:22

Know what? In my case? it's certainly true

22:25

and I wasn't the so my bullies. My

22:27

attack is that I come on guys are

22:29

more than just a punch bag. I can

22:31

tell me the joke and I could beat

22:34

you at it because it's so I in

22:36

fact than those of actually hid behind a

22:38

persona. I invented this persona called professor putting

22:40

I didn't want to be with my doctor

22:42

onstage rights and so I put on this

22:45

false nose and glasses and the mustache I

22:47

put my dad's gray big great work code

22:49

arms you know I used him to show

22:51

the world I was is confident. Funny

22:53

cheerful guy and I I actually made

22:56

fun of some of my bullies When

22:58

the audience assault that that confident and

23:00

I remember the end of the competition

23:03

they're announcing the prizes and they said

23:05

in third place is his first and

23:07

second place is this person and first

23:09

place with ten out of ten some

23:12

all six judges his mother said hi

23:14

and mind thought i i just burst

23:16

and is about what. And

23:19

that day? Honestly, December. Ninety

23:22

Seven for. Islands and been

23:24

addicted to the ten feet tall, cried

23:26

all the way home holding my ten

23:28

don't check. So Rathlin became

23:31

Mr Party. Or

23:33

parties process was like what he

23:35

does it feel. I used that

23:37

confidence. that new found confidence. To

23:40

understand that. You

23:44

can control it is of instances. I

23:47

think it's so important for us to

23:49

learn. A bit more about

23:51

our parents and who they are. Glad

23:53

you can! I did an episode with

23:56

my dad this season. Now.

24:00

Human emotions and time to sell for

24:02

you to be having this tough conversations

24:04

with your children. I can see as

24:06

a daughter it is. So.

24:09

Invaluable, I listened to that podcast

24:11

be of the day. And

24:13

I really really enjoyed it and I'm

24:15

so happy to hear that later on

24:18

in life you are able to talk

24:20

about these feelings with your dad. and

24:22

that is, you know, got to a

24:24

better place. My relationships are probably the

24:26

most important thing in my life. My

24:29

father wasn't Susie communicated to me and

24:31

I think I decided a very young

24:33

age that when I grow up and

24:35

have kids or I'm gonna talk to

24:37

them. But advice deal

24:39

has two daughters. Especially

24:42

coming from a father daughter as.

24:46

You bring such blessings and

24:48

to any parents. lice and

24:50

the father daughter relationship is

24:52

a very very special one.

24:54

Whatever you are going through

24:56

and lice, never isolate yourself.

24:59

From your father's form, a bond

25:02

former connection gets through the uncomfortable

25:04

conversations because boy are they worth

25:06

it because listen this one day

25:09

in the future. Where.

25:11

You're not gonna be able to contact him to it when

25:13

he's around. Give him a hug. Like

25:20

I said when I was speaking to wrap

25:22

man, I think it's hard enough and blending

25:24

the lights. Us to people. That

25:27

come together into a marriage

25:29

or a partnership or relationship.

25:31

So when does it. Added

25:35

last of Greece for the children

25:37

and losing their parent I can

25:39

only emphasize the them. And. It

25:42

sounds like it's still such a

25:45

sensitive situation that I suppose the

25:47

important thing is to keep the

25:49

lines of communication open. Just

25:53

keep talking. You

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on did at Bbc. Dot

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media in society have taught a lot

26:28

of us women that physical beauty is

26:30

all we have. and no matter what

26:33

you tell yourself, this can be so

26:35

difficult. To weed out of your subconscious. Barbara

26:38

in Florida says she's tried all

26:40

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26:42

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26:44

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26:46

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26:50

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Although I did not meet you and so

26:57

you were twenty one years old I held

26:59

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27:01

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27:03

years of your life I thought you were

27:05

my son. Sell.

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