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Hello , welcome back to the
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podcast . My name is Jebba
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Edmonds and welcome to
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the Cultural Curriculum Chat . I
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am so happy that you're here with us
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today . We are going to focus
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on words and phrases
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to use and avoid
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in D , e and I communication
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. Before we begin , don't forget to
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hit that subscribe button so
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you never miss an episode
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. One of my favorite quotes that
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I want to share with you is by
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Joy Meads from the
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American Theater Communications Group
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, and she says , and I quote
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we are not doomed to act
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on our unconscious biases
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, but we can't overcome
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them unless we know what
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they look like and where they live
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. Last week's episode we
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talked about key vocabulary terms
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in DE&I . In one
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of those terms we touched
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on unconscious biases , and
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so when we are thinking
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of these common phrases that
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are not good to share anymore
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, a lot of that stems from these
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stereotypes and attitudes , of
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our unconscious biases of
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the adults that were
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in our lives and how
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it shaped underlying effects
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of these phrases that
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are very common in our
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vernacular , but it also
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hinges upon the
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underlying nuances
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that really harm
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different cultural groups in our
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society . I found a
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really great common DE&I
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language reference guide that
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I will have in the description
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below so you can look
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at the multitude
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of harmful phrases that
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have been touched on , and also
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they have given you great
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strategies of how to turn
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these phrases and reword
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them so that they are not inflicting
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more harm towards others . So
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I'm going to share a
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couple of these harmful phrases
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and what particular
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marginalized group it
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affects the most , and then
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I'm going to give you examples
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on how to rephrase
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it in a way that it is not causing
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harm . So , for example
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, a harmful phrase that you might have
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heard about geared negatively
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towards Asian Americans is
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gung-ho , and
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instead of saying that phrase
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no
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, and instead of saying that phrase , we need to reframe it and change
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it into being I am so enthusiastic about something , or
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I'm so excited about something
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. Another harmful phrase that
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you might have heard or have used as
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well is the phrase
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long time no see , also
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very harmful towards the Asian community
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, and so you can change
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that phrase into I haven't
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seen you in a long time
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or it's been a while . These
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are some phrases that you should use instead
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, a couple of phrases that
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impact negatively people in
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the Black community . Is the
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phrase calling a spade a spade
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Very harmful verbiage , and you
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want to change that phrase to telling
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it like it is . That's a very
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good reframed phrase
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that you can use . Moving forward , another
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one that a lot of people still use
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without even knowing the intention
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is mumbo jumbo . That
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is also negatively impacting people
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in the Black community . To rephrase
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that , you want to say I couldn't
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understand them or they must have been
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mumbling something . A couple
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phrases that touch on negatively
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to the Indigenous people in
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our society is low
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man on the totem pole very
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harmful phrase . You want to change
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that to the lowest ranking
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person in the workforce or
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a person with the least positional
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power . I hear quite a bit
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. Also negative is the
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phrase of circle the wagons . You
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want to change that to protecting
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ourselves . And another one
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phrase that you hear quite a
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bit in the LGBTQIA
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plus community that has negative
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connotation is that's so gay
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. To rephrase would be oh
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, that's so silly or that's bizarre . Another
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phrase that has been harmful
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to people with disabilities that
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has been harmful to people with disabilities turning a blind eye or turning a deaf ear to
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something . You can change those two negative connotations to
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oh , that's willfully ignorant or
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I'm deliberately ignoring
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you or it was deliberately ignored
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to me . That is a phrase that
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you should use . Instead , we are
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going to be in situations where
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these phrases and
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there's a lot more in this reference guide
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that have been so
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automatic in
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our slang and vernacular
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that some of us feel that the connotations
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don't carry as much weight
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. But if you are a person in these
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identities and cultural groups
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, it does still carry weight . It
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still has that . You know nails
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on the chalkboard feel when
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you hear these phrases and when
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people don't call out those phrases
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to check and correct that
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phrase and educate
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others of what we can't say that
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phrase anymore . Or you know , I
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heard something on Jeba's podcast
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that these are some phrases
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that we should turn it
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into a better connotation by using
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these new phrases to
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get our point across still
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, but with a more positive connotation
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to what we mean . There's tons
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more in this reference guide
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that are even more hurtful and
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harmful that I just don't feel comfortable sharing
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. I just wanted to give you a touch of
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some phrases just to get
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your mind into that space of wow
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. This is pretty common and I found
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myself saying these phrases
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too , but now that I know
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the negative connotations behind them
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, I know I can do better . So
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if you say these phrases , we are all
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human , but we all need to understand
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, when that does happen , that we
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need to have that growth
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mindset of I will do better
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and I will hold myself accountable
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. I really want you to practice
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this by thinking about when
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you are in the moment and you do
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say something , then I want you to
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say to oh , I am so sorry
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, I meant to say something else
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or I'm so sorry , I
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really stepped in at this time
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. I will do the work and do better . Last
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week's key vocabulary exercise
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, we worked on a journal
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prompt and I'm going to have us do that
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again with ourselves
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today for a new journal
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prompts . So if you do have
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your journals with you
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and your favorite pen
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, I'm going to have you think about
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a harmful phrase or hurtful
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saying and I want
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you to write that hurtful
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phrase at the top . I gave
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you some examples in this episode . But
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if you just kind of think back and reflect
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of some things that you have
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said without the intention
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of harming a particular group , but you still
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said it anyway think about the
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context clues of what
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that could be pointed towards
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of a particular group . So
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when you think of that harmful phrase
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, you write it down in your journal and
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I want you to kind of think of that
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phrase in if it was
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said out loud , and I want
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you to write down these three prompts for me . So the first , and I want you to write down these
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three prompts for me . So the first prompt I want you to
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write down is how do you
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think they feel about
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this phrase and they
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meaning that cultural
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group that it's geared towards
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? How do you think they might have felt with
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this phrase ? How do you think that person's
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reaction might have been , if there
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was a reaction ? The next prompt
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I want you to write down and I want you to answer
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authentically where do
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you think that idea or phrase
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came from ? And , lastly
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, how do these mentalities
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create barriers for change
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? When we're thinking about the phrases
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and the origins of where you think it
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might have come from or why this
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phrase is hurtful and
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harmful towards particular groups of people
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, how are these
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mentalities still creating barriers for
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change ? How are we not
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the
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negative connotation and , knowing
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the vast vocabulary
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that we have in the English language , why
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are we still using these hurtful phrases
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as a default setting in
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our subconscious when we do have
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more words in our vocabulary to
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get the same point across . So
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I want you to take some
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time this week and
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answer fully and
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honestly about that hurtful phrase
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that you wrote in your journal , and I want
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you to think about how does it make that person
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feel if you've said it out loud to
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them and where do you think that
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phrase came from , and what
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are those barriers that
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are still in place , affecting
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us from doing the positive
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work that we need to do ? Having said
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that , I love self-reflection
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. It's a huge tool that I've
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worked with over 60 organizations
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and counting in doing
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these self-reflective practices
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of looking at harmful
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phrases , harmful idioms
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and trying to unpack
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it all to see what are the origins
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of that and what happens
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when I have a colleague of mine
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saying this out loud to the
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group of us in the workplace , and
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what are the tools that I need
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to disrupt and dispel
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those same patterns
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that we need to unlearn and then
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relearn new ones . I
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have created a wonderful
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resource for you all to check
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about this as a launching
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diverse and inclusive
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. Our interactive training will
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help you identify these
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biases that you hold dear , so
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that you can mitigate the risks they
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. We will help you explore
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can change how you think
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, before we wrap up , I really want
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you to take the time to sit
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with those prompts that I have shown you , and
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I also want you to , of
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course , enroll into my course so you
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get up to date and more
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vetted materials so you don't feel so
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overwhelmed . And I also want
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you to go forth
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and practice those
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new rephrases so
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you can show your
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friends in our marginalized
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communities that you do
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have their back . Thank
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you all so much and I can't wait to see
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you here same time next
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week . Bye-bye .
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