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Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

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Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

Slamming, Stabbing & Sobbing - The Horrors of Brian McGhee

Tuesday, 9th January 2024
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get in there you also get a shout out at

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up royally while trying Desperately

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panic He really is I mean his eyes

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are shuffling back and forth. He's really trying.

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He's not just like oh Bob

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Bob Bob I know he he wants

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it. It's the same anxiety. I get

3:54

it a drive-thru. Do you ever get that? Oh, yeah,

3:56

oh Jesus I'm

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wasting your time. I don't know what I want.

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This is hilarious because we both

4:04

have that, but we're also people who

4:06

are given a microphone and go up there now.

4:10

Don't talk. The music, it's playing. You gotta

4:12

get out there. Ah, easy. No problem. Sure.

4:14

Yeah, all right. What? I just woke up.

4:16

Hey everybody. No problem. Welcome to Taco Bell.

4:18

How may I help you? I don't know

4:20

yet. Oh my God. You can't even

4:22

see me. It's just a disembodied voice. Doesn't

4:24

matter. I'm in a panic. I'm in a

4:26

panic. I

4:28

don't know. I'll just take a Crunchwrap Supreme,

4:31

I guess. It's some of everything. Y'all have

4:33

put it all up. Y'all got fiestas. Y'all

4:36

got mozzarella cheese sticks. I

4:38

think that's why she did that. It's the

4:40

same anxiety. I don't know if I want

4:43

mozzarella sticks. She came in brimming with confidence.

4:46

She said, wild, wonderful wife,

4:48

she said, ah, I'll have some of

4:50

them fiestas. Y'all got

4:52

mozzarella cheese sticks. She

4:55

didn't give a fuck. She

4:57

was like, I'll take an Arby's beef and

4:59

cheddar. She was just ordering shit from other

5:01

restaurants. She literally ordered a

5:04

party, Jack. That's a fiestas. Y'all

5:07

got fiestas. I'll have a party, please. But

5:11

that does sound like something Taco Bell would name an item all of

5:13

a sudden. She just, that's

5:15

a Spanish word she heard and is like, that must

5:17

be food. Well, gordita

5:20

means fat girl. That must be

5:22

food. That's crazy. It's gotta be

5:24

food. Shit. Why else

5:26

would I know the word unless it was food? That

5:30

was confident. So we'll get right into this

5:32

here with our asshole of the

5:34

week. And this guy's a real asshole. Oh! A

5:38

super huge asshole and an

5:40

immediate contender for scumbag

5:42

of the year for next year. Right

5:45

out of the gate? We gotta start

5:47

off hot. That's the thing here. Not

5:51

a ton of information on this guy. This

5:53

will be a shorter episode. But what he

5:55

did was wild. He just, he, it's

5:58

insane. And just a really weird. weird

6:00

case. So let's talk about him.

6:03

His name is Brian McGee and

6:05

that's M-C-G-H-E-E. Oh, he

6:08

did all the letters possible for McGee.

6:11

He goes, what is that? M-C-E? No,

6:13

is it M-G-E? No, M-C-A?

6:15

No. He's a baseball player? No, he's not.

6:17

That's Willie McGee you're thinking of. There he

6:20

is. Yeah, from the Padres? No, from the

6:22

Cardinals. Cardinals. Remember Long Neck

6:24

Willie McGee? He

6:26

looked like a surprised puppet all the time.

6:28

Like people have puppets that have Long Neck

6:30

and kind of googly eyes that look surprised.

6:32

That's what Willie McGee looked like all the

6:34

time. But fucking good player though. Good better

6:37

fielder for the Cardinals. 51 I think was his

6:39

number as a matter of fact. Wow, James Jesus. I

6:41

think he was 51. What's his favorite hobby? You son

6:43

of a bitch. Why do you know him so well?

6:46

Baseball cards. You might know

6:48

his hobby then. Sometimes they have them on that.

6:50

That's the thing. As a kid, I was a

6:53

baseball card lunatic. He

6:55

might collect bugs, Jesus. Had lots of baseball cards with

6:57

Willie McGee. He could name anybody from like 1988. And

7:00

I'm like, oh yeah, that's what he was here and

7:02

there. And then he played for eight years before that

7:04

the back of their baseball card will come to my

7:06

mind, which is helpful. A great time.

7:08

Great time to be alive to learn about a person.

7:12

I love the back of the baseball card that

7:14

would have all the information. Well, I wish I

7:16

had one on this guy because we don't have

7:18

a ton of information. And he's a wrestler, which

7:20

makes a course because you don't know what's a

7:23

lie. You don't know what part of this.

7:25

They're secretive in the first place. That's the

7:28

problem here for him. And Brian McGee has

7:30

got a couple of ring names that we'll

7:32

talk about. One of them is really stupid

7:34

because it's the name of somebody else. So

7:36

he just stole a name from another person,

7:39

which we'll talk about. Let's get

7:41

into this here. I don't, he's from St.

7:43

Louis. In wrestling, he

7:45

says he's from Queens, which we'll

7:48

get into why he says that in

7:50

my mind, because he's stealing someone else's

7:53

identity and they were from long story.

7:55

But we'll get into that. All right.

7:57

Remind me to do that. So can't

7:59

wait. Huge. He's a gigantic

8:01

man. Yeah, he is six

8:03

foot seven two hundred and seventy pounds a Gigantic

8:07

huge dude and yeah later on when

8:09

the cops are after him the

8:12

description of him goes out and you go Well,

8:14

that's not gonna be hard to find this

8:16

should take a ten Literally, it's

8:18

giant black guy six foot seven

8:20

shoulder length dreads 275

8:23

pounds not a lot of that walking around in this

8:25

area Yeah, anywhere you

8:27

see a gigantic man with fucking

8:29

shoulder like dreads just have

8:31

a chitchat with him if you You

8:34

see somebody who you absolutely wouldn't fight. That's

8:36

the guy maybe so go up there so

8:40

From all I know is he's from st. Louis

8:42

and this is one of those where you know

8:45

You could have made up a childhood, but it's

8:47

so recent it And you know it's hard to

8:49

make up it's easier to make up childhoods if

8:51

a guy's from like Sweden or something or Belgium

8:54

I can go yeah before that's I mean yeah, I

8:56

could make up anything and it sounds believable But you

8:58

know this guy was born in 1984

9:01

in st. Louis so there's really

9:03

not much to make up yeah, yeah, absolutely

9:06

younger than both of us he's February 3rd 1984 he's

9:08

born and From

9:11

what I and this is again I don't know if

9:13

this is what he would

9:15

use as part of his like promos

9:17

and gimmick Or

9:19

this is true or both Because

9:22

sometimes people use real shit and they sure

9:24

you know what new Jack use fucking kind

9:26

of real shit Just he was always really

9:29

you know so he says he was

9:31

an outcast as a child I don't

9:33

know if that's true or not and really there's no way

9:35

to tell he's giant so

9:38

you know I'd include him I Would

9:41

include him also, but then again we also

9:43

dealt with Luther right a few weeks back

9:45

right good point who was gigantic? But he

9:47

was bullied for it freakish gigantic now He

9:49

was like seven foot fucking two so I

9:51

mean that's a different kind of huge And

9:54

he said he was teased and bullied Which

9:57

I mean he said he's enormous who?

10:00

hell is... Who's

10:02

teasing that? He didn't have dreads down

10:04

to his shoulders and looking cool, but...

10:06

Yeah. At that size, you don't get

10:08

bullied. You could be teased, but I

10:10

mean... You could be teased. There's a...

10:12

Yeah. Certainly bully back, and you're gonna

10:15

win, I think. There's definitely

10:17

a point where you can make it stop, I

10:19

would assume, there. You make an example out of

10:21

somebody, and that'll be that. There is that little

10:23

video of that Australian kid that was picking on

10:26

the bigger kid. And the big kid finally just

10:28

had enough, and picked the little kid up and

10:30

threw him to the ground. Just toss him. He

10:32

just used gravity. He didn't even hit him. You

10:34

don't even have... If you're that fucking four times

10:37

stronger than another person, it's... Why

10:39

are you having to do anything, really? I

10:41

will crush you. Do you realize? You don't

10:43

realize? You don't know about gravity? Yeah. And

10:45

just... You didn't know about it? Size and

10:47

physics, unless you're a very skilled combatant. Don't

10:49

fuck with someone who's twice your size. That's

10:51

just stupid. I can just pick you up

10:53

and then let gravity do the raps. Even

10:57

in boxing, they always say, if it's too

10:59

heavy-weight, then they're equally skilled. Yeah. The bigger

11:02

man's got the advantage. That's all there is

11:04

to it. It's like, what if neither of

11:06

you have any skills? Well, there you go.

11:08

That's the problem. He can just fall on

11:10

you. Yeah. So he

11:12

says it was because he didn't have a lot of

11:14

money, I guess. His family didn't have a lot of money, is what

11:16

he said. And again, I don't know if this is part of his

11:18

character or whatever it is, but he said

11:20

that once he got to high

11:23

school, this all changed, which makes me think you

11:25

were picked on what

11:27

is fourth grade bullying really and picking on?

11:29

It's nothing. It's high schools when it gets

11:31

sadistic because people have passed puberty and they

11:34

have weird shit in their

11:36

heads. And they have

11:38

insecurities. Insecurities and anger. Yeah.

11:41

So many chemical-grade delivery.

11:44

Picking order for girls at that point. It all

11:46

gets weird, whereas in the fourth grade, it's a

11:48

little bit different. Fourth grade, it's just like, I

11:51

don't even understand what this thing is that is growing off

11:53

of me. Yeah. I don't know why I have a boner.

11:55

I'm going to go stand over there. Why does this keep

11:58

happening? I gotta go. It keeps happening.

12:00

happening. It won't stop,

12:02

God damn it. So

12:05

he said then he became an

12:07

athlete and was involved in sports

12:09

and he said then he was

12:12

fine. Everybody was ... because he's

12:14

also enormous. Again, once he's in high school, he's

12:16

six foot seven and a giant

12:18

and a thick frame dude too. So

12:21

it's like he is not the guy, first guy you're

12:23

going to fucking pick on at all here.

12:25

So here is something from I believe

12:27

... yeah, as of Christmas of 2000, this is

12:30

from the St.

12:33

Louis Post-Dispatch, he was at Academy

12:35

High School in St. Louis, or

12:38

Career Academy High School is the name of it,

12:40

which sounds like a strip mall. There's

12:43

a lot of ... Sounds like he didn't

12:45

make it in the normal school. Yes, it sounds

12:47

like one of those strip mall charter schools in

12:49

Arizona. Yeah. Arizona has a

12:51

lot of like, oh, that used to be a drug

12:53

store. That used to be an Oscar drug and now

12:56

it's Career Academy High. Or

12:59

Accelerated Learning Center. Yeah, and you're

13:01

like, what's going on in there?

13:03

What? How do you even do that?

13:05

Which is crazy because the least accelerated

13:07

people went there. You look at all just

13:09

kids that have been thrown out of school

13:11

that go to those particular strip mall schools.

13:13

I know there's other ones that are different,

13:15

but that's not the point we're making. We're

13:17

talking about strip mall, Phoenix High

13:20

Schools, which ... Then there was Polaris

13:22

that was that other high school, night

13:25

school. People went to

13:27

night high school, James. People

13:29

that were like children still? They were

13:31

still high school students, but they couldn't

13:33

make it regular day because of their

13:35

baby. Night school's like on a sitcom

13:37

in the 80s or 90s, like somebody

13:39

didn't get their diploma, so they were

13:41

going to night school to get their

13:43

high school diploma. They were like 34

13:46

and they worked in an office and all this type of shit. Most

13:49

of them were 17-year-old girls or 17-year-old

13:51

boys that the girl had a baby

13:53

and now ... Or somebody had a baby and

13:55

now they got to do it at night because during the day

13:58

they're working their job. I

14:00

was just going to say, girls who have had babies

14:02

and the boys who have knocked them up. That's

14:05

just there. That's just exactly what it is.

14:07

That's just there. Like family high school. People

14:09

have that. Yeah. They

14:11

go to work and they meet at

14:13

the high school afterwards. That was your

14:15

shift. Mine sucked. Yeah, it sucked. Okay,

14:17

well yeah. We're children. You want

14:19

to put the kid down? There's cribs in the back.

14:21

There's the mess. Of course it sucked. We're our

14:24

children. We shouldn't be doing this. This is ridiculous.

14:26

We should have better jobs to be able to

14:29

raise children. God damn it. Why do we do

14:31

this? So this day there's

14:33

a list of all the people

14:35

here. And it doesn't

14:37

seem to be doing that great. The

14:39

scoring leaders, he averages 10.5 points

14:43

a game here at this point. He's playing

14:45

basketball? Yeah. He's playing basketball. So

14:47

that doesn't seem that great. 10

14:50

points a game? 10 points a game. 10 points

14:52

in high school, that's not terrific if you're

14:54

a star player. You're not dominating the other

14:56

children. But he also averages 8.8 rebounds

14:58

a game. And he leads

15:01

all of the high school area

15:03

here. His little fucking

15:06

whatever the hell, division or what's it called?

15:09

District. District or whatever the fuck. With

15:11

3.75 blocks per game. Oh

15:14

shit. So yeah, he's a defense and

15:16

rebounds and blocks kind of guy. Hell

15:18

yeah. So yeah, that's what he's all

15:20

about. He's a big tough

15:22

guy. I mean, he's a guy that'll bump

15:24

you right out of the way under the boards.

15:28

But apparently he goes into the Navy in 2002.

15:32

He's in the Navy for a while. That's a

15:35

fascinating time to join. Yeah, that's

15:37

what I mean. That's joining up to get into

15:39

some shit. You know what I mean? That's like

15:41

joining up in 42. You're

15:44

joining up with purpose. This isn't just, I don't know what

15:46

to do with myself. Maybe I'll

15:48

go in the Army for a couple of years and get some college

15:50

money. He heard about an event

15:52

and was like, I'm in. Yeah, all right. Yeah,

15:54

I want that. So he's in the Navy, which

15:56

whenever I say anybody's in the Navy, it always

15:58

makes me think of Christmas again. Christmas vacation

16:00

because we just watched it in the

16:02

last month, everybody did, where what's

16:05

her name, the old lady that comes

16:08

over, the aunt there. Oh,

16:10

and Bethany, is Rusty still in the

16:12

Navy? The way

16:14

she says that cracks me up. He's 12. Yeah.

16:18

That and my friend too. That's the

16:20

voice of Betty Boop. That's amazing. Isn't

16:22

it? Yeah. That's

16:24

wild. And Felix the cat? Wild that she's

16:26

still alive. She's

16:29

really baffling. Fucking hilarious stuff. Yeah. Maybe

16:33

the best Fortrade character ever. Is

16:35

Rusty still in the Navy? Grace.

16:38

Yeah, I love her. Grace.

16:42

The blessing. The blessing. Get

16:44

it over with. Unbelievable. That's a

16:47

great couple. That and my friend

16:49

who used to

16:51

start half the stories with.

16:56

So when I was AWOL from the Navy, that's

17:01

a great way to start a story. So

17:04

I'm AWOL from the Navy, right? Yeah.

17:07

Okay. I'm in.

17:09

I'm in right away. I'm already in a

17:11

lot of trouble, right? I'm already going by

17:13

a different name. I'm going by an alias.

17:18

I'm kind of avoiding cops. People are

17:20

looking for me, okay? So

17:22

I can't go to my normal relative's houses and

17:24

things like that. I'm staying in a cheap motel,

17:27

right? So he's in the

17:29

Navy. He gets out of the Navy in 2004. So

17:32

I think he does 2002, three, and four. So

17:34

like a three-year deal in the

17:36

Navy here. Or a two-year. Yeah. I'm

17:40

not sure exactly why he took off or

17:42

if he was kicked out or

17:44

no one knows. Hey, it's possible too, yeah. I

17:46

have no records here of this. We

17:48

hear what an asshole he is. It's

17:51

possible, I would say, that they- Maybe they

17:53

said no more. I would give him the heave ho. Not

17:56

only because he seems

17:58

very unstable as well. talk about because

18:01

not only what his major crime is

18:03

but also the things

18:06

that lead up to it are... Oh?

18:09

Yeah, when things don't go right for him, he just

18:12

really flies off the deep end and starts

18:14

posting on Facebook about it and shit, which

18:16

is fun. Oh, yes, that is

18:18

great. A lot of fun. When someone just

18:20

has stream of consciousness on Facebook and then

18:22

later on says, oh, I was hacked. That

18:25

wasn't even me. You're like, really? Sure.

18:28

Yeah. That's when the thing happened

18:30

to you. Someone outside of there knew that and,

18:32

oh, okay, and decided that. And they also had

18:34

the skills to hack you at the same time

18:36

and they know you that well. So

18:40

from 2004, he starts

18:42

and then I guess for a few years,

18:44

I don't know, it's kind of nebulous when

18:46

he stops doing this, he

18:48

is the assistant manager of a

18:50

St. Louis pawn shop. Oh.

18:55

Which, how many of our... We do

18:57

a show about athletes that get in

18:59

trouble and a lot of these athletes

19:01

are tapped from eight years old with

19:03

greatness and they never manage a St.

19:05

Louis pawn shop. That

19:08

comes later after they've gotten out of

19:10

prison and they sort of

19:12

kicked their crack habit, then they'll manage a

19:14

St. Louis pawn shop for a while. Usually

19:18

not beforehand though. Yeah. I've

19:20

only been in a pawn shop once in my

19:22

life and I'm not even like the pawn stars

19:25

one. Those places are frightening.

19:27

Oh, it's just guns and guitars. That's all they

19:29

have there. And power tools. And power tools, yeah.

19:31

All the gels, yeah. Guns, guitars and shit stolen

19:33

from construction sites. Yeah.

19:36

It's with no serial number. That's

19:39

what they have at the pawn shop. I've

19:41

been in a couple. It's disturbing. I

19:44

went in the one on Cave Creek Road, the big, the

19:46

yellow one. That's the one I went in. Yeah.

19:49

It's organic and it's right there and it's yellow. It's

19:51

so scary. You can't miss it. Outside,

19:54

it's Phoenix, so it's nuclear flash bright. I

19:56

mean, let's be real, it's not a cloud

19:58

in the sky. The building is... is

20:00

eye-searingly yellow. And

20:02

it's on a corner of a road that

20:04

turns, so it like, it's fucked with your

20:06

eyesight as you have a blind turn. You

20:09

have to, you're just like, ah, you stop

20:11

there like someone's watch just reflected in your

20:13

face. And

20:15

then you open the door and you're in

20:17

like a Wisconsin basement. You're like, what the

20:19

fuck just happened? It's pitch black in there,

20:22

it's just this gun and bows and power

20:24

tools and people are drinking beer and you're

20:26

like, what's going on in here? I

20:30

was looking for maybe a drill press, do

20:32

you guys have those? I got 12 of

20:34

them out back. What? They're

20:36

like five grand. Yeah, that's

20:38

the other thing, why'd you buy half this shit? How

20:42

many guitars are you going to sell? It's not

20:44

a guitar store. Are people coming in just clamoring

20:47

for guitars from this place? All

20:52

of them have a story, that's

20:54

Clint Black's guitar. What? Why

20:56

do you have a... How can you prove that? I want

20:58

200 bucks for it. Okay.

21:01

Well, the cops dust it for

21:03

fingerprints, Gwencer all over it. That

21:07

and assault rifles, that's what Phoenix is basically.

21:11

Unbelievable truly. Do I want to be... And the guy that

21:13

used to own that shit... Do I want a croon or

21:15

shoot? Can't decide. I

21:17

met the guy that owned that place, filthy

21:20

fucking rich man. Absolutely, there's a bunch

21:22

of those too, there's several locations. A

21:24

bizarre man, bizarre. Really?

21:28

One shot from Phoenix, bizarre, you say.

21:31

Like 58 years old with his hat

21:33

turned sideways. No, no, I don't know.

21:36

I don't see it Jimmy, nope, upstanding gentleman

21:38

I feel like. In a

21:40

Bentley Azura. Yep, that's

21:42

the guy with

21:45

a little fridge in it that's packed with nothing

21:47

but energy drinks, whatever

21:50

the doucheiest one is at the moment. You're like, you're 58

21:52

bro, why? Wearing

21:55

an oversized Tommy Hilfiger shirt. Why

21:57

are you dressed like us? What's

22:00

going on? Why are you wearing

22:02

four chains? You just bought them

22:05

from somebody for $12? And he's like, you need

22:07

a drill press? I got

22:09

five of them. I got so many drill presses,

22:11

dude. And drill... what do you want to do?

22:13

You want to do like... you want to build

22:15

things? You want that sort of

22:17

thing? Or you want to do like a... You want to put

22:19

them together? Country music star? Or do you just want to shoot?

22:21

What do you need here? Because we got you covered. Let me

22:24

tell you something. What a weird fan.

22:27

What a weird business. Yeah, yeah,

22:29

it really is a weird business. Here's some

22:32

money. I'll hold this for a while. You

22:34

know, I want to open a business, James,

22:36

but I only want like

22:38

the worst crackheads in Phoenix. I want the

22:40

worst people. Yeah. I want the worst... He

22:43

should open up like a bad motel on the property

22:45

as well, because that way it's all one stop, you

22:47

know? Come here,

22:49

stay here, and then sell me all your shit for

22:52

nothing, and then get the fuck out. Sell me all

22:54

the shit you steal over the course of the day.

22:57

I'll sell it, and then... Yeah,

22:59

it's basically a fan. That's all he is.

23:01

Yeah, allegedly. We don't know that. This is

23:04

a joke. We can't... Assumptions,

23:06

yeah. If we call a legitimate businessman

23:08

a fence, I don't know. I think

23:10

that's probably libelous. So

23:13

I'm going to say, we're definitely

23:15

joking, and we don't know this guy, but

23:17

he sounds like a douchebag. That I will say. He's

23:20

a bizarre man. That's not why. A

23:22

bizarre douchebag. That's a douchey

23:24

thing. Yeah. Very douchey.

23:27

I got you so many guitars, bro. It's

23:30

not even funny. So

23:33

that's what this guy is. Imagine this guy, as

23:35

I described him, but in the St. Louis pawn

23:37

shop. Wild. So I think he's

23:39

working security there, too. It's

23:42

a good guy to have on the premises.

23:45

Yeah. Because the people

23:47

that come there generally are questionable. They're selling

23:49

questionable shit. They have to be angry if

23:51

you don't give them as much as they

23:53

want. Also,

23:55

you have AR-15s and black guitar. They

23:57

might want to steal it. Dude, the people, they

23:59

come... for it when you have plinthlax guitar. You

24:01

don't even know why they're coming, but like you

24:04

look out though it's like zombies. They

24:07

keep coming way in waves. Plinthlax guitar, I need

24:09

it. I already wrote just like the rain with

24:11

that. Oh, I need it. Oh god, they don't

24:13

even know why they're going there. They're

24:16

just like attracted to it for some reason. They get there

24:18

and they're like, I don't know why I'm here. I

24:21

had a good run of bad luck. That's why I'm here.

24:23

That's why I'm here. In

24:27

2007, he

24:29

decides, Brian decides, it is time

24:31

to start wrestling. Okay,

24:34

that is a fucking, you are almost

24:36

30. Time to wrestle, big guy. Let's

24:38

do it. Yeah. 23, I guess. Yeah,

24:41

he's 20. What is it? 20? Yeah, 20. Oh my god, he is 30. No, no, he's

24:43

23. 84? Yeah, he's 23. That's

24:50

pretty young. Yeah, I mean, you know, Navy, pawn shop,

24:52

now it's time to see what you can do with

24:54

your life. He's seen the world, Jay. He's

24:57

seen all of it. Between the Navy

24:59

and a pawn shop, there's nothing you're

25:01

missing, I feel like. You've certainly

25:03

seen people that are most desperate.

25:06

Absolutely. Faraway lands and local crack

25:08

heads all in one. It's

25:11

a good mixture. So his

25:13

first thing he works that I can find,

25:15

and we don't know what he did that's

25:17

not available for, whatever, but the first thing

25:19

I can find is that is August

25:22

3rd, 2007. And he is wrestling

25:26

for Central States Wrestling, which is

25:30

a, there's a lot of wrestling

25:33

fans will know this, if you're paying

25:35

attention to this sort of thing. There's

25:37

a weird resurgence in the

25:39

last 15 years, about

25:42

this time is when it started, where

25:45

people could like, you can, for a small

25:47

fee, they could use the trademark of an

25:50

old wrestling company. Oh, really? The ones where

25:52

the trademarks have expired, and I guess Vince

25:54

McMahon didn't care about them after he bought

25:56

their footage, you didn't give a shit about

25:59

their trademarks. So they use it and

26:01

I've seen there's another AWA that uses

26:03

the same logo as Vern Ganya used

26:05

to use in Minnesota there. And

26:08

there's all these different old

26:10

name promotions being run now, not by

26:12

the people who owned them back then,

26:14

but by new people who use

26:17

the name. So Central

26:19

States was an old wrestling, a

26:21

fucking old territory around forever that

26:23

went out of business in the

26:25

80s. But that's

26:28

what they're using anyway. His

26:30

wrestling name that he picks for

26:32

himself is Donovan

26:34

Ruddick. Does

26:37

that sound familiar to you? No,

26:40

I just know Riddick. Well

26:42

Donovan Ruddick is also known as

26:45

Donovan, not this Donovan Ruddick, the

26:47

actual Donovan Ruddick is Donovan Razor

26:49

Ruddick, the fucking boxer,

26:53

the heavyweight contender that had great fights

26:55

with Mike Tyson and was a really

26:57

badass motherfucker. That was Razor Ruddick's first name,

27:00

Donovan? Donovan Razor Ruddick, that's why he went

27:02

by Razor because it sounds a lot tougher

27:04

than Donovan. Donovan's

27:06

like a very neat dressed man with

27:09

a small mark carved into

27:11

the front of his hair. A

27:13

little shaved into his hair, yeah. Just a

27:15

little bit. He's got great hair. Beautiful hair.

27:18

Donovan's styled well, it smells good, which

27:20

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27:22

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Donovan Ruddick is what he goes by and

29:27

he fights. He wrestles Trent Stone that

29:29

night. This is in Mount Vernon, Illinois

29:32

at the YMCA.

29:35

Really? That's where you start out in

29:37

wrestling though. YMCA, Mount Vernon, Illinois. Is

29:41

there Mount Vernon elsewhere? Virginia? There's a

29:43

lot of them. Mount Vernon is where George

29:45

Washington was. That's right. Mount Vernon, New

29:48

York is also a thing. Mount Vernon,

29:50

Illinois. Mount Vernon, Illinois. George

29:56

Washington and Lincoln together. One of those

29:58

places they just named one. for

30:00

every state probably. And at

30:02

the YM, this is one of those, if you

30:04

see footage of like wrestling, indie

30:06

shows, and there's like 30 people in folding

30:08

chairs scattered throughout a YMCA, that's what this

30:10

is. I've been to one of those, it's

30:13

awesome. Yeah, it's really interesting because you're right

30:15

on top of it. But it feels, the

30:18

guys, I feel so fucking bad for the

30:20

guys when it's like that because that's not

30:22

how it works. That's not when it's best.

30:24

That's not what they thought when they signed

30:26

up for this either. They

30:29

can make it good because you can almost

30:31

individually connect with each person in the audience

30:33

whether for hate or for good. It's like,

30:35

it's the same thing as stand up. I

30:37

hate, I always compare wrestling with stand up

30:39

but if you have a show. It's

30:42

fascinating, James, because wrestlers now, like big

30:44

name wrestlers are going on like other

30:46

crazy podcasts and they are now telling,

30:48

those big wrestlers are telling the person,

30:51

we're doing the same thing. You don't realize that and they're

30:53

like, oh yeah, we are. James

30:55

has been saying it for seven years.

30:57

Yes, they're doing the same thing. Eight

30:59

now, eight in February. It's the exact

31:01

same thing. And when you have 12

31:04

people, we've done shows, we've done shows together

31:06

with 12 people in the audience a hundred

31:09

fucking times. And when you have

31:11

12 people in the audience, you can do a

31:13

certain kind of show and you

31:15

change your performance. You still tell your jokes

31:17

but you tell them in a different way

31:20

because it's awkward otherwise. You don't want

31:22

to do it. Yeah,

31:25

you don't want to do it because you have to make it work.

31:27

What else are you gonna do? Comedy,

31:29

much like wrestling, is no matter what the problem

31:31

is, no matter if the venue's

31:34

weird, there's bad chairs are bad, there's

31:36

12 people, things of lighting, whatever the fuck, you still

31:38

have to do it. That's the problem. You have to

31:41

go out and you have to do it. So in

31:44

comedy, when you have 600 people, you

31:47

do it a completely different fucking way. Yeah.

31:49

A totally different way because then you're shouting it to the

31:52

last row rather than to a person's

31:54

face. And in wrestling, when you see the

31:56

guys either try to still

31:58

act like they're... WrestleMania

32:00

when there's 30 people, which just looks

32:02

crazy. It doesn't even look like, oh,

32:07

he's performing, he doesn't care. You

32:09

look like an insane person in a bad way. He

32:12

was very out of place. You look, yeah, you look

32:14

like you don't know what you're doing because you're like,

32:16

who are you? You're yelling like out that way. There's

32:18

nobody out that way. The people are eight feet away

32:20

from you in folding chairs. So who the fuck are

32:22

you yelling at? Yeah. Doesn't make

32:24

any sense. They don't change their act. So I feel

32:26

bad for wrestlers that have to do that anyway. But

32:29

that's, I think, how you start. And then you've got

32:31

to, maybe that's the best way to

32:33

learn how to connect to an audience too. I've only been to

32:35

one. And I was the one

32:37

that went to see Royce. And Royce, he's doing much

32:39

bigger things now, but that

32:42

night watching him, I felt bad for

32:44

him. And he was doing

32:46

what he was supposed to do. Yeah, he crushed

32:48

it. He was fantastic. He's really good. He's really

32:50

good. He really is. And he's getting better and

32:52

better. I'm so happy. He's

32:54

so good and a really

32:57

awesome, humble, great

32:59

guy. Hard not to root for that dude, I'm telling you.

33:02

So he ends up wrestling

33:04

for several odd little

33:06

promotions here. Yeah.

33:08

One is, where is this? The St.

33:10

Louis one is where he starts really

33:13

getting into shit. No, no,

33:15

he starts in St. Louis also. St. Louis,

33:18

St. Louis Anarchy is the name of the

33:20

wrestling federation he's wrestling for

33:22

here. And that

33:24

is, seems to be where he

33:26

really starts going. Because he's there for, looks

33:29

like they have monthly shows or every few months and he's

33:31

at most of them it looks like here. And

33:34

I'm looking at this and I

33:36

see him, I'm trying to see if I

33:38

know anybody. He's fighting it like a one,

33:41

the name of the event here in June

33:43

of 2007, Circus

33:45

Maximus 4 at

33:47

the Knights of Columbus Hall in

33:51

House Springs, Missouri. You

33:53

have to be kidding me. They do go in there? Yeah.

33:56

I guess they'll rent it out for anybody. I mean,

33:58

if it's all... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. people are

34:00

calling they want to use your space fuck yeah we'll

34:02

run it to you that just seems like oh you

34:04

know what though if it's near st. Louis that makes

34:07

sense because to me Knights of Columbus is just an

34:09

Italian thing here yeah you know what I mean in

34:11

New York but there's a ton of Italians in st.

34:13

Louis that's where I was that right Yogi Berra and

34:15

Joe Garagiola came from there's a neighborhood in st. Louis

34:18

that was an Italian neighborhood and yeah

34:20

so I think that probably where

34:22

that came from probably less Italians

34:24

now so they're like hey who wants

34:26

to wrestle here yeah there's

34:29

one down there in Sunny's Club it's

34:31

fucking weird yeah it's strange so

34:33

he also wrestles this is in May

34:35

of 2007 at the

34:37

Vetta Sports Club in st. Charles Missouri

34:40

oh oh

34:42

yeah and the theory is that Afron

34:44

Missouri or Afton Missouri I've never

34:46

even heard of these towns and we do small town murder

34:49

like we talk about small towns every week

34:51

I know way more small towns than most

34:53

human beings in the country and I've never

34:55

heard of any of these fucking places after

34:58

after Afton AFF TON

35:00

Afton oh never

35:03

oh that's even worse yeah

35:05

Jimmy was on board till he heard the spelling and

35:07

then he's like I can't do it again do it

35:10

well it's one thing to have like a

35:12

small town with a name that's easy to

35:14

spell so that if you see it you

35:16

recognize it but that's fucking confusing and stupid

35:18

yeah that was somebody's name why that was

35:20

the guy who owned all the land and

35:22

now they named it after him I'm sure

35:24

or the railroad

35:27

those are the two things that either the rich

35:29

guy or the some asshole who was there for

35:31

five minutes with the railroad the surveyor they name

35:33

it after happen to be a nice guy yep

35:35

you're like oh he's getting the railroad here back

35:38

and then September 2007 back

35:41

at the Knights of Columbus Hall again

35:43

so I mean in House Springs that

35:45

must be a hot card there low

35:47

rent and our low rent he's wrestling

35:51

Tyler cook then also

35:54

he seems to wrestle Jordan Lacey a

35:56

lot because for

35:58

a while here in June He

36:00

wrestles Lacey and then he

36:02

wrestles Lacey in October in August

36:05

and then there's a tag team match This

36:07

all progressive feud Traditionally,

36:10

you'd have two guys Yeah,

36:12

because it elongates the feud because now it's

36:14

not a one-on-one confrontation. So we're getting more

36:16

people involved in this Yeah, yeah, you're making

36:18

it so those guys it just makes it

36:20

more so you want to see them in

36:22

singles again So you do that then he's

36:24

Tyler Cook is the next event they have

36:26

and then back to Jordan Lacey And then

36:28

he seems to be done with Jordan Lacey

36:31

here and he's moved on to moved

36:33

on to the Knights of Columbus Hall again in October

36:37

in October they have LWA

36:39

which is the the promotion has

36:41

two shows at the Knights of Columbus

36:43

Hall and House Springs, Missouri in one

36:45

month. Oh Three weeks

36:48

apart the 6th and

36:50

the 27th of October. So shit

36:53

I mean if you're having events every three weeks

36:55

in the same fucking place You gotta hopefully

36:57

people are showing up because maybe they're building a good crowd.

36:59

I don't know I mean, I

37:02

guess you don't do a second one if the

37:04

first one wasn't sold out, right? I guess not

37:06

then they're back in December again there They might

37:08

have been there between there in December, but he

37:10

wasn't on the card So I'm not sure I only have

37:12

the cards he's on in October

37:14

He's first Jordan Lacey beats him

37:17

then he fights that this is

37:19

a good name

37:21

Johnny Greenpeace What

37:24

the fuck kind of wrestling name is that see

37:26

he plants a tree everywhere and I'll put it right

37:29

up your ass Yeah, what

37:31

is he like green? So or whatever

37:33

from fucking from 30 Rock

37:35

David Schlimmer is that what he is? Like what what

37:37

are we talking about here? Johnny

37:40

Greenpeace is a terrible name for a

37:42

wrestler that doesn't sound tough at all

37:45

Then he's next up. He's for Central

37:47

States again. This is in November right

37:49

around Thanksgiving 2007 he fights Adam Raw

37:51

as the man's name Adam Raw Adam

37:53

Raw So

38:00

he's just, that's, by the way, no, no,

38:02

no, Adam, like regular Adam. You don't want

38:05

to see his finishing move. It is

38:07

gross. Let's just say that his finishing move

38:09

is gross. He

38:11

takes it off. You guys, it

38:13

stays like, we're going

38:15

to do this raw, Sonny. It's

38:18

not good for a little bit. He

38:20

does it with it. And he takes

38:22

it off. Then it

38:25

gets really gross. So then

38:28

in St. Louis for that territory

38:30

again, for the anarchy

38:32

wrestling there, he is again

38:34

against Adam raw here

38:37

at the Knights of Columbus hall and

38:39

house Springs. So Christ, that place is

38:41

hopping. That place must be just the

38:43

best wrestling venue ever. Do they do

38:45

anything for Italians? Just

38:48

wrestling. That's it that I'm

38:50

sure there's a couple of like christenings and shit

38:52

like that. I remember my

38:55

cousin Brian had his christening thing was

38:57

at the Knights of Columbus, not christening,

38:59

but his communion. Oh

39:01

yeah. The communion. That's the big party

39:03

they have there. The first communion confirmation.

39:06

It's his confirmation party for Christ's sake.

39:08

Here's the envelope. That

39:10

was when I, I told the story about

39:12

him going around slamming the creamers, drinking the

39:14

fucking creamers. That was at the Knights of

39:16

Columbus there. No,

39:19

no, no. He didn't throw up maybe later, but

39:21

not at the Knights of Columbus. It's not a

39:23

golden corral Jimmy. You don't

39:25

throw up on premises. That's a, your stupid

39:27

opinions reference. Would you be listening to that

39:30

show? Holy shit. There's

39:32

not puke. Don't worry. There's yet there's going

39:34

to be poop. There's going to

39:36

be something gross there. Every day he,

39:38

he's up against, uh, in January, 2008,

39:40

he's up against an attack

39:43

team match and one of the guys he's wrestling

39:45

is Johnny vinyl. Oh, we

39:48

got Johnny everything around here. Adam

39:50

rod, Johnny vinyl, Johnny,

39:53

Johnny green, Johnny on

39:55

the spot. Yeah. Johnny.

39:59

There's think about. this, there's like how

40:01

many bad wrestling gimmicks have you

40:03

seen in the major promotions? Right.

40:06

All right. Imagine how many bad ones there

40:08

are in indies. Think about that. And

40:11

the swings and misses in there

40:13

have to be stellar. That

40:16

is actually probably worth the price of admission.

40:18

Just seeing the bad gimmicks. Oh yeah. That's

40:20

the thing about wrestling. It's one of those

40:23

things where it's, again, like stand-up where if

40:25

it's really good, it's really good.

40:28

If it's really bad, it's fucking

40:30

hilarious. And why not? You

40:33

know, it's fun to watch. You're going to enjoy

40:35

it if it's really bad. Bad wrestling is funny.

40:37

It can be really fucking lousy. I

40:40

like when they involve dolls and blood and

40:42

shit like that around the doll in their

40:45

entry. That's fucking hilarious. The doll? Yeah,

40:47

like where a doll head or anything with a

40:49

doll. Oh, like El Snow with head? That was

40:51

great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great.

40:53

But that was because he was so fucking good. He

40:55

would talk to it and like ... Yeah. He was

40:57

believable too. That's awesome. He gave it

41:00

his all too. El Snow's awesome though.

41:02

A different kind of cat there. The guy that

41:04

wrestled the night that I saw Royce had it,

41:06

somebody had a doll too. Really? It

41:08

wasn't as good as head, obviously. Well

41:10

... I mean, he spoke to it. He put it in the

41:13

corner and wrestled for it. Really? He

41:15

was doing a fucking El Snow gimmick. He was looking at it,

41:17

talking to it while he was wrestling. Jesus, that's hard. That's

41:19

what ... Dude, how are you going to fucking ... You

41:22

got to sell that. Are you going to bring a bag

41:24

with a big snake in it next? You

41:26

can't ... That's El

41:28

Snow's gimmick, to talk to ... I'm sure he wouldn't

41:31

give a fuck with that thing. While he was wrestling?

41:33

Yeah, that's the thing. He would go talk to

41:35

it and act like, holy fuck, do consult with

41:37

it and shit. Yeah, that's what he was doing.

41:41

Yeah, he's doing El Snow. He's a dang thing. Wasn't El Snow,

41:43

was it? I doubt ... No. No. He's

41:45

a very young man. Yeah. El Snow

41:48

was a fountain of youth, if that's it. Well, also, if it was

41:50

El Snow, you'd be like ... And he was a really good wrestler,

41:52

this guy. Surprisingly

41:54

old, but very good. Oh, really good.

41:57

Still jacked somehow. So,

42:00

yeah, he's wrestling all these guys with crazy

42:02

fucking indie names. Next up is one of

42:04

the better ones here. This

42:07

is January 2008. He wrestles

42:09

Rigor Mortis. Oh, not bad.

42:11

That's a good name. Rigor Mortis in Mount

42:13

Vernon, Illinois. That's for

42:15

Central States. Next up, it's where

42:18

they, Arnold, Missouri? Arnold, Missouri? Arnold. Never

42:20

heard of you. At the VFW Hall in

42:22

Arnold, Missouri. Fantastic. I've done stand up at

42:24

a VFW. I don't know where the fuck

42:27

they were going to wrestle, except if you

42:29

made the ladies at the oxygen tanks move

42:31

aside while they smoked. Yeah,

42:33

take your bingo over there. Yeah, that

42:36

was that. Yeah,

42:38

so he's doing all these different events. He's

42:40

in a four-way here. Oh. A

42:43

four-way for Halloween, this isn't for

42:45

Halloween. Why is this Halloween? Oh,

42:47

the Halloween crew. Okay. March

42:50

29th, 2008. This

42:52

is ACW, which is Anarchy Championship

42:54

Wrestling. So there's St. Louis Anarchy,

42:56

then there's Anarchy Championship Wrestling, which

42:58

are apparently two completely different things.

43:00

You don't get to use Anarchy

43:03

twice. And they're running the same area,

43:05

too. And

43:07

they're using the same wrestlers. I think. And

43:09

the same, yeah. This is in actually Austin, Texas, so

43:11

he's on the road here. This is probably his

43:13

first big road trip, a long one. This

43:16

is a tag team four-way, tag

43:19

team title four-way, so four tag teams.

43:22

So eight guys. Four different tags? Oh

43:24

my God. That's a mess, is what

43:26

that is. That's confusing as shit, yeah.

43:29

Unless everybody's really good workers, that's a

43:31

fucking disaster waiting to happen. Yeah,

43:33

because somebody's going to tag them. That guy comes in,

43:36

that guy goes out, and now you got those three,

43:38

and that guy's tag. Yeah.

43:41

But he keeps the guy away from the tag.

43:43

It's constant tagging. If those guys worked together and

43:45

the same eight guys did that for like six

43:47

months, it would be really good, probably. They could

43:49

put something together. But you just throw eight fucking

43:51

guys together and tell them what to pull off

43:53

and try to plan the whole match ahead of

43:55

time. It's going to be ugly, and that's why

43:57

it's in the Dove Rex... Springs

44:00

Recreation Center in Austin, Texas.

44:05

The title of the show appropriately

44:07

is Delusions of Grandeur, which is

44:10

very appropriate for this particular

44:13

event. The

44:16

tag team's involved. The Halloween crew,

44:20

which is Black Rocker and Jack

44:22

O. Lantern. Yes. Not bad.

44:24

A man named himself Jack O. Lantern.

44:28

They're against Dylan Stone and Nathan

44:30

Sin, the submission

44:32

squad, and Donovan Roneck and

44:35

Gary J. So that's

44:37

the event. Next

44:39

up- Donovan and his partner have

44:41

the worst names. Yeah, they have the worst. They

44:43

weren't going to win. They named Jack O. Lantern.

44:45

They weren't going to win. Jack O. Lantern and

44:47

Black Rocker won. They're the new champion. Are you

44:50

kidding me? Fantastic. They gave Jack O. Lantern a

44:52

belt, for fuck's sake. That's

44:55

insane. Next up at the St. Louis

44:57

Anarchy event, this is at Rivers Edge

44:59

Reception Center, not even Recreation Center. This

45:01

is the reception, so you just come

45:03

in the door and we check in.

45:05

Is this in Laughlin? This is in

45:07

Granite City, Illinois. Oh, boy.

45:10

Worse than Laughlin, I think. Somehow, yeah. Maybe

45:12

not. No, Laughlin's worse. It's pretty

45:15

bad. Laughlin's much worse. This is a tag

45:17

team match, and they lose it. Next

45:20

up at the AAPW, which one is that? I

45:22

got to look. All American pro wrestling

45:24

is that one. Oh, yeah. I

45:26

have a legend thing here that I wrote down

45:28

of all what these fucking promotions are. Sure.

45:30

It was a disaster. Him and his

45:33

partner beat a guy named Carnage and

45:35

a guy named Steven Davis. This

45:37

is a very prestigious event at

45:39

the New Beginnings Assembly Hall in

45:41

West Frankfort, Illinois. You know,

45:43

we're a- Recovery center. I was just going to

45:45

say, it sounds like a rehab center. They're doing

45:48

a show to keep everybody's spirits up. Hey,

45:51

activity guys, everybody. Watch this mess. It

45:53

makes me want to do crack. Jesus Christ. Hey,

45:56

you know who has crack? These guys,

45:58

maybe. One

46:00

of these guys certainly has pills. Somebody's

46:02

got pills, definitely. Next up,

46:04

April 2008, this is for

46:07

St. Louis Anarchy. He is

46:09

fighting for the title here at

46:11

the Knights of Columbus Hall in Fairview

46:13

Heights, Illinois. Hell yeah. Where all

46:15

the big happenings go down. Dreams

46:17

come true. Dreams come true here,

46:19

yeah. It's like Madison Square Garden.

46:21

There's a few different major venues

46:23

and... Storyed. This is one of them. He

46:26

fights Shorty Biggs, who's the champion,

46:29

and he beats Shorty and he

46:31

becomes the champion of whatever

46:33

this is. So, there he

46:35

is. He's the champ, everybody. It's very came true.

46:37

That's it. All good now. That's

46:42

not even Grace yet. No. He's

46:44

the champ and it's not Grace. It's going to

46:46

get bigger. It's going to get bigger and better

46:48

here. He's still the champion. Next event,

46:51

May of 2008 at the Knights of

46:53

Columbus Hall in House Springs again. He

46:56

defeats Evan Jalistico.

46:58

Jalistico beats him. Next

47:02

up at the Colbert Gym in Chester, Illinois. I'm

47:04

just going to... These venues are

47:06

wonderful. They're just great. Yeah. Paul

47:09

Rose, he beats here. That's

47:13

for AAPW. He

47:15

again defends the title at the Vetta

47:17

Sports Complex in St. Peter's, Missouri. Oh,

47:20

yeah. Everybody knows that one. Like I said, that's

47:22

where a lot of things happen there. I think

47:24

Ali won a title there once. If

47:28

I remember correctly here. He

47:30

goes on a run though. He beats Jordan

47:32

Lacey. He beats Shorty Biggs. O'Fallon,

47:35

Illinois, the Knights of Columbus Hall that

47:37

one's in. So O'Fallon. There's

47:40

a town called O'Fallon with an apostrophe

47:43

and everything. I think something happened

47:45

there. Why do I know O'Fallon?

47:47

I don't know why, but I know it. Something

47:50

historical happened there. I bet booze is involved.

47:52

I bet booze is involved. with

48:00

O'Fallon. Just a fucking

48:02

guess here. So yeah, he

48:05

beats Billy McNeil in St. Peter's. Then

48:07

back in O'Fallon in September

48:09

of 2008, Jordan Lacey, who

48:12

he had that feud with before, beats

48:14

him for the title. So he's no longer

48:16

the title holder, but he is fighting a

48:18

guy named Bobby Danger up next. Bobby

48:21

Danger then Mephisto, which there used to

48:24

be guys with that name back in

48:26

the day. Mephisto? Mephisto, like Memphis without

48:28

the M in the beginning. So

48:32

anyway, all these, what is

48:34

it, HVW, which one is that?

48:36

HVW is high voltage wrestling. He

48:39

runs those for them. Oh,

48:41

Yuletide Terror. Jesus Christ, that was the

48:44

name of one of the cards. Yuletide

48:46

Terror. I like it. Valentine Vengeance is

48:48

even better. Okay, I'm starting

48:50

to get annoyed. Valentine

48:53

Vengeance, everybody at

48:55

the Coral Springs Gymnasium in

48:57

Coral Springs, Florida. It's Valentine

48:59

Vengeance. He's mad

49:01

because he took him to the Golden Coral. Oh, it's

49:05

the fight at the Golden Corral Buffet. Winner

49:07

gets to eat from the

49:09

Golden Corral Buffet. Loser

49:11

has to watch him eat from the Golden Corral Buffet.

49:14

So yeah, he's in all these

49:16

different LWA, H-High Voltage is what

49:18

he's in a lot here. High

49:21

Voltage likes to name their shit.

49:23

Valentine Vengeance, High Diamond and Dust.

49:25

Diamond and Dust. That's a really weird,

49:28

yeah. I

49:30

don't know. Well, anyway, he wins the title. He

49:33

wins the High Voltage Live Wire title.

49:36

All right. So there's that. Yeah, and

49:39

he defends that against Rick Fuller the

49:41

next month. So he's like an up

49:43

and coming wrestler then in the Indy

49:45

Circuit, yes? Yeah, he's huge. Here's the

49:47

thing about the Indy. Yeah, great point,

49:50

yeah. There's not a lot of gigantic

49:52

guys on the Indy. Right. So when

49:54

you see a gigantic guy, immediately that

49:56

guy comes to the forward because everybody

49:58

else for the most

50:00

part. That is pretty fascinating about wrestling.

50:03

I mean granted comedy and wrestling same thing in

50:05

terms of elevation. Do you know

50:07

what I mean? And so when you're six

50:09

seven in a in a ring that's already

50:12

way above my head and now

50:14

you're six feet seven inches taller than

50:16

that, that's commanding and you

50:19

look like a big badass. And you're fighting.

50:21

And you're flying. Looking tough is the whole

50:23

thing here. I mean you don't have to

50:25

actually be tough. I mean you have to

50:27

be tough to take the bumps. But you

50:29

don't have to be like a good

50:31

fighter. That's not part of it. So

50:35

yeah he's back in St. Louis. St. Louis seems to

50:37

be his home base because I guess he lives there.

50:39

So I believe that yeah, because all these guys, if

50:41

they're going to do these indie shows, a lot

50:43

of times they're not. I mean it's

50:45

gonna be you're not making anything with travel and

50:48

all that kind of shit. So it's you

50:50

know, unless you're a big name, you're not making a lot of money

50:52

on that kind of thing. So local

50:55

things would be great. So he's lucky

50:57

there is a local promotion to even

50:59

work for. There's a lot of guys,

51:01

there's just no local promotion near them.

51:03

So he keeps going. He's up

51:05

against, what is he, he's at the

51:07

high voltage again. He's the high voltage champion but

51:10

he's also wrestling for St.

51:12

Louis as well. He loses

51:15

the heavyweight title of

51:17

the high voltage here. And you've got another

51:19

thing coming is the name of the event.

51:21

Oh. Falls count

51:23

anywhere match. The Jews priest

51:25

has no problem with that, huh? No problem. Yeah,

51:28

I'm sure they don't ever play the song. I'm

51:30

sure they do actually. They

51:32

fucking better. They're like, there's 40 people

51:34

here. It doesn't matter. Nobody's willing for

51:36

that. There's a high school

51:38

dance that's playing shit that's gonna get

51:41

sued before us. There's $800 that we're

51:43

gonna divvy up amongst everybody. Yeah,

51:46

exactly. And I'm gonna keep 600 of it. So

51:49

that's the promoter there. So yeah.

51:51

Next up he's for St. Louis.

51:54

He defeats super electro in

51:56

House Springs, Missouri again. Man, House Springs is

51:58

just his town. Can't even. He

52:00

can't buy a drink in House Springs. People are

52:03

throwing them at him. Please drink

52:05

it. Kicking ass. I'm just looking

52:07

for weird names now of people or events.

52:10

Yule Tide Terror 2009 I do enjoy. That

52:13

is not bad. Yule Tide Terror.

52:15

Be scared. Wow,

52:18

he has a little run here where he

52:20

beats the big Texan over and over again.

52:22

Okay. Just the big Texan. I

52:24

don't know. That's so that he

52:27

can go out in public all the time. That's

52:29

the big Texan. Here's a guy named

52:31

the Dixieland Destroyer also. Oh, not bad.

52:35

That is at an event called Cocked, Locked

52:37

and Loaded. Jesus

52:39

Christ, where the fuck is that? Missouri.

52:43

Oh my God. Missouri. Cocked,

52:45

Locked and Loaded was at the Rivers Edge

52:47

reception center in Granite City, Illinois. I apologize.

52:50

Southern Missouri. With

52:52

the Dixieland Destroyer. Dixieland

52:55

Destroyer. In

52:57

2009, at the end of every year, Pro Wrestling

53:00

Illustrated, which is a very old wrestling magazine, they've

53:02

been doing this forever. I remember when I was

53:04

a kid, when I was 10, rankings

53:07

would come out. They do the

53:09

top 500 wrestlers in the

53:11

world is what they do. Wow. So

53:14

yeah, when I was a kid, I was hearing about guys I'd never

53:16

heard about before. I was like, oh, who's that guy? He

53:19

was ranked number 476 out of 500 in 2009. 24

53:25

better. Only 24

53:27

worse in that 500. Worse.

53:29

That's what it is. But

53:34

he is recognized as being a

53:36

legitimate wrestler that's in the Pro

53:38

Wrestling Illustrated rankings. So that makes

53:40

him a real person, basically. So

53:43

he ends up, like I said, when you're a

53:46

big guy like that, you stand out in an

53:48

indie promotion because you're way bigger

53:50

than everybody else, unless it's

53:52

one of the old retired guys or somebody

53:54

that just left WWE or something that's on

53:56

the card. Otherwise you're dwarfing everybody. So

53:59

the main major promotions are going to

54:01

notice you if they scout this

54:03

sort of thing. So in 2010, he signs a contract

54:05

with WWE. He

54:10

... What? Absolutely.

54:13

They sign him to a developmental contract, which is what

54:15

they would do because he's only been wrestling two years.

54:17

He's not ready to go on fucking Monday Night Raw

54:19

yet. You can't go from

54:21

the YMCA with 40 people to Monday

54:23

Night Raw. That's not a ... Knights

54:26

of Columbus to wrestling reign. That's

54:29

really difficult shit to do here. So

54:32

they, of course, don't let him use the

54:34

name Donovan Ruddick, not only because he stole

54:36

it from a boxer who was

54:38

just boxing less than 15 years ... fucking

54:41

10 years before this. He

54:43

was boxing also because they need to

54:45

own your shit. So they're going

54:47

to give you a name. He is

54:49

... I don't know if this is

54:51

his gimmick or what they give him.

54:53

The name they give him is DT

54:55

Porter. What? Capital

54:59

D, Capital T, Porter.

55:02

That just sounds like DT

55:05

Porter, isn't it? Yeah. That's

55:07

not a name. There's no catch. Where's the hook to that?

55:10

Where's the ... What is ... It's not even like a

55:12

cool name. I don't even know what he does. Yeah. DT

55:15

makes it sound like it's short for something, I should know, but I don't

55:17

know what that is. So then the whole

55:19

thing is lost. Alcoholic Shakespeare Porter?

55:21

Is that his name? Yeah. I

55:24

think it was Delirium Tremens Porter. Yeah, I think that's what

55:26

it is. He's

55:28

going to work the Florida Championship Wrestling,

55:30

which is the company's developmental territory down

55:32

there in Florida. Grace, I'm

55:34

going to say right here. It's pretty good.

55:36

It's not bad. He made it farther than

55:39

most people make it. I'll say that much.

55:41

And basically on size here is basically, I

55:43

think anyway, what the deal is. He's a

55:45

giant guy. You go, well, we'll see what

55:47

we can do with him. They advanced him

55:49

through the ... I don't

55:51

know, what ... Indy's very fast and

55:54

made him champion twice,

55:57

gave him big ... I mean, he's wrestling

55:59

everywhere for ... So the small promotions

56:01

he seems to be yeah, they identify him

56:03

as the guy there. Yeah,

56:07

absolutely. So that's what he's doing.

56:10

He's wrestling for Florida, but it's

56:13

not until very late 2010

56:16

from what I can find because before that it's a

56:18

ton of indies. He's on a bunch of these fucking

56:20

indies PWE MMWA. Oh

56:22

the other one SICW that's

56:24

Southern Illinois Championship wrestling. Yeah,

56:27

that's that's all the acronyms that

56:30

I've never heard of. Oh

56:32

totally. He wins the PWE title

56:36

over Jimmy Carrot. What?

56:40

Yeah, Jimmy Carrot. He wins a battle

56:42

royal. Southern Illinois Championship wrestling really loves

56:45

him. I mean he's winning every match

56:47

with them. Yeah. Hardcore shit. So 2010

56:50

though once he goes to Florida, man, he's

56:52

got all these title changes for him. He

56:55

has a Mississippi Madman. Madman.

56:57

Okay. Oh, wow Eugene. He

57:00

wrestled. Remember Eugene? Oh,

57:02

no. The wrestler who pretended

57:05

to be... You

57:07

don't remember that? No. You

57:10

don't remember when they had a guy who went

57:12

on there and said he was retarded on

57:14

fucking national television? Stop it. And

57:16

did a character. He was like stomp

57:19

around. You don't remember that? No.

57:23

He was around for like a couple years and it's

57:25

sad. For far too

57:27

long. The guy's like a good wrestler and shit

57:29

and it fucking ruined him. I mean, everyone sees

57:31

him as that. He was good at it. People

57:33

thought he was thought it was true,

57:35

but it wasn't. I'll be watching YouTube videos of

57:38

that. Look up. If any

57:40

of you have never seen it, look up Eugene WWE.

57:43

Done and done and look up an interview and you're gonna

57:45

go, oh my god. Are you kidding me? What

57:49

the fuck are they doing? It's gotta be

57:51

nearly as bad as when they made

57:53

them say the N word. That

57:55

was even weirder. That

57:57

was stupid. George the animal stealing. He'll kind

57:59

of play the character like that, but it

58:01

was more rather than like a challenged person.

58:04

He was supposed to be like not

58:07

long farther enough in the evolutionary chain. He was

58:09

like an animal. He was covered in hair. He's

58:11

not part of society, right? Yeah. He

58:13

lives in like a cave, whereas this guy is like,

58:16

I went to a special school. It's a totally

58:18

different thing. My

58:20

bus wasn't as big as the other one. Yeah.

58:25

No. That's

58:28

what they were doing. It's not

58:30

me, it's them. Why

58:32

would he do that? I don't know. It's

58:34

not his fault. They gave him that. No,

58:36

I mean, who the fuck told Vince this

58:38

is a great idea? Stephanie

58:42

maybe? I don't know.

58:44

Stephanie's man. If you

58:46

ever, Jim Cornette rants all the time if his

58:48

name comes up because he's like, good kids, good

58:51

wrestler, all that. They fucking killed him. They ruined

58:53

him. Why are they making him do that? Maybe

58:55

a wrestler. It

58:58

makes sense a lot. He's

59:00

wrestling for Florida Championship Wrestling and

59:03

he looks like he's losing a

59:05

bit at the Florida Championship Wrestling

59:07

Arena in Tampa. Jesus,

59:09

poor bastard's got to wrestle in Tampa. I feel bad

59:12

for him there. They

59:14

love it. Jesus Christ. Yeah. That

59:17

audience for it is rabid. Jesus.

59:20

Probably, yeah. I would assume he's probably a good

59:22

crowd is why they're down there. I would hope

59:24

that WWE would have cultivated some sort of audience

59:26

for this by now. In

59:28

Tampa, shit, yeah. So

59:30

he's fighting Tim Zabisco. Is

59:33

that Larry Zabisco related person? I

59:35

wonder. Then there are Vashon.

59:38

Okay. That's a very famed

59:41

butcher and mad dog and Luna and there's

59:43

a lot of Vashon's there. That's interesting. Steel

59:45

Horse Vashon. Okay,

59:48

that's for NWA. He

59:50

seems to still be wrestling indies even

59:53

though he's with Florida, but he

59:55

doesn't seem to be with Florida very long.

59:58

That's the thing. I only see... On

1:00:00

this website, I only see two

1:00:03

events he wrestled in for Florida

1:00:05

Championship Wrestling. I'm sure there's more, but

1:00:07

I only see two. Then

1:00:10

in May of 2012, he is

1:00:13

dropped by WWE, just like that.

1:00:16

Do they find out he's doing extra shit? I

1:00:19

mean, no, a lot of the guys I would imagine

1:00:21

are, I don't know if you're allowed... Used

1:00:24

to be, but I don't know now what the rules are

1:00:26

if you're in developmental... Right, if you're

1:00:28

in developmental, maybe they encourage you to go do

1:00:30

other stuff to get better. Maybe.

1:00:33

They should. They should encourage you to be doing everything, but

1:00:35

at the same time, they're paying you. So they might say,

1:00:37

well, I don't want you fucking getting hurt somewhere else. This

1:00:39

might be it also. That

1:00:41

also makes sense because some of these indie promotions

1:00:44

have shitty rings. They work against guys that don't know

1:00:46

what the fuck they're doing. They might drop them on their head. So

1:00:48

I mean, there's all of that there. It makes sense.

1:00:51

So he is dropped by WWE, which

1:00:54

he never really... Never really got any

1:00:56

footing under him here. Worked his

1:00:58

way through the indies for a couple of years,

1:01:00

got signed, didn't seem to be going anywhere and

1:01:02

then done. They just dropped him like a hot

1:01:04

potato. The other part is they're

1:01:07

aware of you. They know what you're

1:01:09

capable of. So whatever got you kicked

1:01:11

out of there or dropped from there,

1:01:13

maybe work on that. Or maybe it's

1:01:15

something that's detrimental entirely to the day's

1:01:17

performance there. We don't know. And

1:01:19

he's 28. Yikes. Yeah, he's

1:01:21

starting to remember. Is that already on the down

1:01:23

slide? Fuck. He puts

1:01:25

on quite the Facebook post. Oh.

1:01:29

Quite the Facebook post. Let's talk about it. Oh

1:01:32

yeah. He says, and I quote,

1:01:35

guys, I don't know how much longer I can

1:01:37

handle this. Every day is

1:01:39

a constant struggle to keep my sanity. I

1:01:42

love wrestling and it's all I ever wanted to do.

1:01:44

Already going crazy since I've been for

1:01:47

like 10 months now, but it gets worse. Every

1:01:50

day a trainer goes out of his way

1:01:52

to rib or disrespect me in front of

1:01:54

the boys because I've been out so long.

1:01:56

Apparently he's an injury probably. And

1:01:58

they'll fuck with you a little bit. you're, they think

1:02:01

you're milking it, basically. They'll pick on you. I

1:02:04

can't clear myself. I want

1:02:06

to wrestle more than anything, but I don't know who

1:02:08

I am anymore. So I can't clear myself. Like he,

1:02:10

I need medical to do it. Yeah.

1:02:13

I don't know. I don't even know who I am

1:02:15

anymore. So he went from being

1:02:17

a wrestler that felt confident and tough. And like he

1:02:19

knew what he was doing to being an injured

1:02:22

guy sitting on the side with the trainers

1:02:25

talking shit to him is what he's saying. Well,

1:02:27

a doctor tells him you're not allowed to work

1:02:29

because this is still a mess. Whatever. They're going,

1:02:31

Oh, look at you big guy with your sore,

1:02:33

this or that. And you know, fucking with him.

1:02:35

So, um, I don't know. He

1:02:37

said it's so fucking hard. I just feel

1:02:39

it building inside of me and I don't

1:02:41

know how much longer I can contain it.

1:02:44

I have daydreams of just fucking everyone

1:02:46

up on some real shit. I'm

1:02:49

not a kid. I'm a fucking man. Okay.

1:02:51

But what do you do when Pete, the people

1:02:54

in charge of helping you get to the main

1:02:56

roster or the ones making your life the hardest?

1:02:59

I've been drinking almost every day. It's

1:03:01

to the point where I keep vodka

1:03:03

and gin in my trunk. Help me.

1:03:05

Exclamation point. This is a

1:03:07

cry for help. Sounds like a manifesto.

1:03:10

It's like a manifesto mixed with a

1:03:12

cry for help because most manifestos don't

1:03:14

end help me. That's not it. Yeah.

1:03:17

Usually there's those end with I've got the solution.

1:03:19

I'm doing this shit. Yeah. He said, how the

1:03:21

solution yet? Yeah. He doesn't even know what the

1:03:23

fuck he's doing, who he is. So

1:03:26

he posts this, which by

1:03:28

the way has very,

1:03:30

it really sounds like it's in somebody's

1:03:32

head, you know what I mean? Like they're

1:03:35

just like stream of consciousness, just letting out

1:03:37

shit. Yeah. And he

1:03:39

later claimed that he didn't write that he was

1:03:41

hacked. Oh, somebody else wrote that.

1:03:43

Like I said, someone who knows everything about

1:03:45

your personal life and personality to the point

1:03:47

where they can really nail medical

1:03:49

legal. You better sue them for HIPAA. That's

1:03:52

the other thing. Um, and

1:03:54

amazing good computer skills to

1:03:56

hack into your shit. All of this in one.

1:03:58

I mean, that's impressive. I gotta say,

1:04:01

that's a really good hacker. It's such a

1:04:03

specific person, you should know exactly who did

1:04:05

it. Yes, exactly. By

1:04:08

the way, when he was his

1:04:10

wrestling billing from here, which is never really

1:04:13

where they're from, he said he was from

1:04:15

Jamaica, Queens, New York. That

1:04:17

was his character. Now Donovan

1:04:20

Razorruddick was Jamaican, so I was wondering

1:04:22

if maybe that was any connection

1:04:24

to that. He just

1:04:28

saw coming to America or something. Yeah,

1:04:30

and then he was like mixed it all together.

1:04:32

I'm not sure here. So

1:04:35

he's quiet for a little while

1:04:37

here. He's wrestling in 2013 still,

1:04:40

and it's for this NWA and

1:04:42

Believe, oh, I Believe in Wrestling.

1:04:44

That's the one promotion's name.

1:04:47

I Believe in Wrestling in 01 USA

1:04:49

also. What?

1:04:52

Yeah. He loses to

1:04:54

a guy in a steel

1:04:56

cage named Bear St. Pierre

1:04:59

in Illinois, so he's doing all of that. He's

1:05:01

dropped. He's trying to make his way

1:05:03

through. The last match I can find

1:05:05

of his is on April 28, 2013.

1:05:10

He wrestled two nights in a row there, the 27th and the 28th. He's

1:05:14

going by Donovan Terrell now. That's

1:05:17

his new ring name

1:05:19

here. I see him

1:05:21

lose in Tampa, Tampa, Florida

1:05:23

for NWA then, and I Believe

1:05:25

in Wrestling event. He

1:05:27

loses, oh no, he wins that night.

1:05:31

That's April, 2013. Don't

1:05:33

hear anything else from him until July 24,

1:05:35

2013. We

1:05:37

hear a lot from him. He

1:05:40

goes two months of silence and then ...

1:05:42

Radio silence and then it's fucking on. Raising

1:05:46

the red flags. Yes. He's

1:05:48

married. That we do know. Okay?

1:05:51

Oh. Don't know shit about his wife. Don't know

1:05:53

a goddamn thing, but I do know ... He exists. He's

1:05:55

certainly married, and the

1:05:58

woman he's involved with tonight is definitely not

1:06:00

his wife and we'll find out that for

1:06:02

sure. This is July 24th, 2013, 8.30 p.m. Okay.

1:06:08

You know when we go specific to

1:06:10

date and time, bad shit's about to

1:06:12

happen. So this is Tampa, Florida obviously

1:06:14

where bad shit happens. 8449 Del

1:06:18

Lago Circle is the address here. That

1:06:21

is not nice. Apartments. And

1:06:24

his girlfriend is Bianca

1:06:27

Vidal Migahi or Miguelhi. I don't

1:06:29

know how you'd say this. MCGAUHEY. Oh

1:06:35

yeah. But they're both

1:06:38

McGees which is interesting. Yeah. Couple of

1:06:42

McGees. We're a couple of McGees over

1:06:44

here. So

1:06:46

Bianca is 25. She's born July 15th, 1988

1:06:49

with her McGee self.

1:06:52

She's from St. Louis. Her

1:06:55

parents are Yolanda and Ronald.

1:06:57

She went to like all Christian schools

1:06:59

when she was a kid. Really? Oh

1:07:02

yeah. Christian where she go. North County

1:07:04

Christian School is where she went. She's

1:07:06

a member of the cheerleading squad at

1:07:08

that high school. Yeah. She went

1:07:11

to Harris Stowe University and

1:07:13

then went to Ultimate Medical Academy. And

1:07:17

then she ended up Ultimate Medical.

1:07:20

It sounds like it's not medical

1:07:22

stuff. Medics training or some shit.

1:07:24

I was thinking like eyebrow threading

1:07:26

or something. That sounds like to

1:07:28

me. I'm sure it's not

1:07:30

but just to me you put Ultimate in the

1:07:32

title. I'm not taking you seriously as a doctor.

1:07:34

You get your degree there to run a mall

1:07:37

kiosk. Yeah. Never heard of it.

1:07:39

I'm an Ultimate Oncologist. I don't hear that ever.

1:07:41

It's a serious person. I'm your

1:07:43

family physician. I got my doctorate

1:07:45

from Ultimate Family University. Extreme Family

1:07:47

Dentistry. I

1:08:01

do two people at the same time a mambidextrous

1:08:03

pow pow You

1:08:06

know these bunions next to ultimate

1:08:10

Oh, yeah Ultimate

1:08:13

podiatry that's what you want. I

1:08:16

Really want that I really want where's the

1:08:18

ultimate? Where is the ultimate

1:08:20

proctologist? Where is he? That's where I need to go.

1:08:23

I Need ultimate

1:08:25

you really got to jam something up my ass

1:08:27

and find out We

1:08:29

don't use fingers around here. We use

1:08:31

this We use this

1:08:35

the ultimate proctologist I Go

1:08:38

halfway on my forearm. I lost a watch in

1:08:40

a guy. You know what I'm saying Call

1:08:44

ourselves the polyp pickers around Some

1:08:48

guys got 10 grand worth of Rolex in his colon

1:08:50

right now You understand what I'm trying to tell you

1:08:52

right now, but I got all this polyps Got

1:08:55

a clean bill of health buddy can't get

1:08:57

through a metal detector with clean bill of

1:08:59

health Stop

1:09:11

checking and then what maybe

1:09:14

hopefully it's one of those movement based ones They

1:09:16

can move it Don't

1:09:22

run around the block it'll be good for a day or two What

1:09:25

are you running labs for for your health? No,

1:09:27

man. I got a watch in there You like

1:09:29

to keep I like to keep time this is

1:09:32

why my watch I Wish

1:09:35

you wouldn't have set that alarm for two o'clock every

1:09:37

day before Lost it

1:09:39

at me because this is really crazy She

1:09:42

every day about 202 I come It's

1:09:46

really really oh boy. Look at that. I

1:09:50

Had to change my work shift Yeah,

1:09:55

I gotta be home by 202 gotta be traffic

1:10:00

So she uses her Ultimate Medical

1:10:02

Academy background to

1:10:04

work for Comcast, the

1:10:07

cable internet company. Yeah,

1:10:10

the nurse on premises or something? No, no,

1:10:12

yeah. Yeah. The dancer

1:10:14

on phones? Shechs blood pressure,

1:10:16

everybody's cubicle. She was

1:10:18

a big time member of her church she was into.

1:10:21

She was an usher and a member of the choir

1:10:24

and a member of the Praise Dance Team.

1:10:26

Oh. Yes. She was

1:10:29

with dance and she also worked with the

1:10:31

youth department of the church for a long

1:10:33

time and she would go to

1:10:35

their youth conferences all the time. Everybody

1:10:37

said she's a real happy go

1:10:39

lucky kind of person and she was

1:10:41

super into her two cats or three

1:10:44

cats, four cats. Oh. Four

1:10:46

cats. What? I have their

1:10:48

patches, Leo, Speedy and Boots. That's a lot

1:10:51

of cats, man. That's a lot of cats.

1:10:53

So I assume Patches has patches. Leo probably

1:10:55

looks like a lion. He's

1:10:58

self-explanatory and then Boots probably

1:11:00

had the little white feet.

1:11:03

Yeah, white paws. Or black paws, white cat.

1:11:06

White cat either one. That's his girlfriend though.

1:11:08

Okay. Okay. He also

1:11:10

has a wife is the problem. What's going on there?

1:11:13

Yes. Apparently, Bianca breaks

1:11:15

up with him is

1:11:18

the problem and he is

1:11:20

still trying to pursue her. So

1:11:25

she takes another tactic which I

1:11:27

believe would be an effective tactic

1:11:29

unless what happens here happens. Okay.

1:11:33

So she is at her apartment complex

1:11:35

walking her dog. Okay. She

1:11:37

has a dog too? She has a dog too

1:11:39

apparently or somebody else's dog. She is walking a dog

1:11:42

at this point. Walking a dog, yeah. Walking

1:11:44

a dog, she's on the

1:11:46

phone as well. He

1:11:48

pulls up to her apartment where she told him

1:11:51

not to come. Yeah. She's

1:11:53

up to her apartment, I'm sorry, where she had

1:11:55

told him not to go. So he

1:11:57

sees her out there walking. He

1:12:00

decides to get out of the car and

1:12:04

walk up to her. Here's

1:12:07

a quote from the court documents

1:12:09

later on. Bianca

1:12:11

held the phone up to Mr.

1:12:13

McGee and said something to the

1:12:15

effect of, here, there is

1:12:18

someone who wants to talk to you. She

1:12:22

had called his wife. Oh,

1:12:24

what the fuck, man? Yeah.

1:12:28

So she was like, yo, not only this

1:12:30

and that, but he's here now,

1:12:33

fucking with, she's still here. So

1:12:35

he's going to be in trouble on every

1:12:38

level at home, the cops with her. There's

1:12:40

a lot going on here that everybody hates

1:12:42

him right now. Everybody doesn't

1:12:44

want him to be here and he's still here. So

1:12:47

she's talking to his wife. His

1:12:50

wife said she was, the whole thing was his

1:12:52

wife was concerned for his safety because he was

1:12:54

acting crazy. Just on

1:12:56

that Facebook post, I'd be worried about his safety too if

1:12:58

I was a friend of his. If

1:13:00

you posted that, I'd be like, Jimmy, call me. What the fuck, bro? Well, yeah,

1:13:03

man. Let's talk. Jesus Christ.

1:13:05

So he walks up to her and

1:13:08

according to the court documents, quote, Mr.

1:13:10

McGee began attacking her without saying a

1:13:12

word. He

1:13:15

walked up to her and immediately began attacking her

1:13:17

with a knife, by the way, not beating

1:13:20

her. He's six foot seven, 270 pounds. She's

1:13:24

small. She's a small woman. I

1:13:26

mean, he definitely, absolutely doesn't

1:13:28

need a knife to hurt this woman.

1:13:31

She said, here, somebody wants to talk to

1:13:33

you and he just started stabbing her? He

1:13:35

said, awesome, let me stab you a lot.

1:13:37

Wow. And we're talking a lot

1:13:40

and there's rage here, real fucking

1:13:42

rage. A witness watches this,

1:13:44

by the way, a witness is standing. It's

1:13:47

only 8.30, so it's not like

1:13:49

it was three in the morning. A witness saw

1:13:51

him walk up to her and

1:13:53

the witness said he thought

1:13:55

that it appeared that Brian

1:13:57

had punched her in the stomach. But

1:14:00

it was really, he stabbed her. He

1:14:03

had a knife. She fell to

1:14:05

the ground screaming after he punched her

1:14:07

in the stomach, quote-unquote, so the neighbor

1:14:09

ran inside to call the cops. Not

1:14:13

knowing she was stabbed. While

1:14:16

the neighbor's inside, he just... He

1:14:19

doesn't work. I mean stabs

1:14:21

her until he breaks the knife in

1:14:23

her. He

1:14:25

stabs her so much he breaks the knife, but

1:14:28

he's not done yet. He says,

1:14:30

oh, that's okay. I have another knife in

1:14:32

my car. He brought two. He

1:14:34

stopped stabbing her with a broken knife, got

1:14:36

up, walked all the way over to his

1:14:38

car, opened up

1:14:41

his fucking console, whatever, picked the knife out, walked

1:14:43

back over to her, and continued to stab the

1:14:45

fuck out of this poor woman. He is so

1:14:47

mad. That is rage. She was

1:14:49

already fucked too. I mean, she had stabbed, she

1:14:51

would have been dead. I mean, this is just,

1:14:53

this is for him now. This isn't for purpose.

1:14:55

This is, I need to be keeping... He stabbed

1:14:58

her once and then continued until he

1:15:00

broke it off. She's not doing well. Not

1:15:02

doing well, and she's got half a knife in her, more

1:15:04

than likely. He said, going to keep

1:15:07

doing it. So he keeps stabbing her,

1:15:09

stabbing her, stabbing her. By

1:15:11

the time the neighbor comes back

1:15:13

outside after calling 911, all the

1:15:15

neighbor sees is Bianca on the

1:15:17

sidewalk on her back

1:15:19

with a knife sticking out of her stomach. Left

1:15:22

it. Fucking, I mean, you want to

1:15:24

talk about bloody. It's got to be a bloodbath.

1:15:28

25 year old woman, bloody as fuck laying

1:15:30

there. She dies at

1:15:32

the scene before paramedics even arrive. She's

1:15:35

dead. Oh my. He

1:15:38

stabbed her until she, he was sure she was dead is

1:15:40

what it seemed. That's what it seems like

1:15:42

to me. And then he left? He stabbed her, stabbed her,

1:15:44

yeah. He took off. He gets

1:15:46

in his car and jets. He's

1:15:48

driving a grand, a Pontiac Grand Prix.

1:15:51

Wow. Which shows that he's doing very well. Because

1:15:53

I don't even think they made Pontiacs anymore by

1:15:56

that year. So not in 2013. I

1:15:58

don't think they were even making a Pontiac. Pontiac.

1:16:01

So this is the, was

1:16:04

even more fucked up. Now it gets even

1:16:06

crazier. If that's not crazy enough, he

1:16:09

takes off in the car and posts on

1:16:11

Facebook. Oh, from his

1:16:13

phone in the car. In the car

1:16:15

at 8 46 p.m. So 16 minutes after this. Probably

1:16:21

three minutes after this. He

1:16:24

changes his Facebook profile

1:16:26

picture. Yeah. To,

1:16:29

would you like to see it Jimmy? Oh,

1:16:31

we got it. What

1:16:35

the fuck? Is that the cut on

1:16:37

his hand or just her blood? It's

1:16:39

her. Go

1:16:41

back. It's a close-up. What

1:16:44

the fuck man? It looks like a

1:16:46

wrist with a very large

1:16:48

gash. He took a picture of her.

1:16:52

It's her. He

1:16:55

posted that as his profile picture

1:16:57

while he was running from the

1:16:59

scene of stabbing her. Oh my

1:17:01

god. What

1:17:03

the fuck is that? You can't

1:17:05

even tell what it is exactly. Yeah,

1:17:08

it's just like it's just it's obviously

1:17:10

skin and blood on it and yeah

1:17:12

I mean damaged but that's what it

1:17:14

is. It's wild.

1:17:17

So it's

1:17:19

a very bizarre reason I

1:17:22

don't get it. I don't get it at all. Yeah, that's

1:17:24

what he does. The police are now hunting

1:17:26

for him because they witness had seen

1:17:28

his car. They know. Yeah, it's a dangerous

1:17:30

way. Yeah, so here's what they put

1:17:32

out. Brian McGee, 6 foot 7, 280 pounds

1:17:35

black hair

1:17:37

shoulder length dreads. Shouldn't

1:17:39

be too tard to find. Honestly, a

1:17:42

huge person. Tattoos on

1:17:44

the upper right arm. He's got

1:17:46

two. First one says fat fat.

1:17:49

What? I don't know. Okay.

1:17:52

He's got a nickname and the

1:17:54

second tattoo says Brianna which might

1:17:56

be his wife's name or his daughter's name

1:17:59

or Who the fuck

1:18:01

knows? Somebody's plowing.

1:18:03

Who knows? Yeah, I don't know.

1:18:05

He thought his girlfriend's name was

1:18:08

Brianna instead of Bianca and fucking

1:18:11

messed up. Maybe she's in the throat.

1:18:13

We don't know. We don't know. So

1:18:15

this is, he's driving a 2008

1:18:18

Pontiac Grand Prix, silver with black

1:18:20

racing stripes, Florida tag

1:18:23

WNI, and then they cut it off. It's

1:18:25

a silver one with black. In the 2008,

1:18:27

they still made it that late. I

1:18:30

was going to say, that is the tail

1:18:32

end of Pontiac. That's really... That

1:18:35

Aztec really ruined them. It

1:18:37

did. That was a joke. But he got like

1:18:39

the last one coming off the... It

1:18:42

was the last employee before they fired everybody.

1:18:46

The GTO in that car. The

1:18:49

GTO G6, that was another one. Oh yeah,

1:18:51

that was a different one. That's a

1:18:53

good car. So he then gets on

1:18:55

the phone, very active on the phone for a

1:18:57

guy who just murdered somebody. He

1:18:59

calls up his sister and mother. I

1:19:03

mean, he kind of said goodbye. No, no, he

1:19:05

calls to admit that he killed them. He goes,

1:19:07

I just stabbed the fuck out of Bianca. I

1:19:09

killed her and now I'm on the run and

1:19:12

blah, blah, blah. They're like, holy shit. His sister

1:19:14

said that, so while he's on

1:19:17

the phone with them, one

1:19:20

of them calls the cops on another phone. Great.

1:19:23

So a cop comes over and

1:19:25

the sister's trying to keep him on the line the

1:19:27

whole time. Yeah, we come here. Hey, just keep him

1:19:29

on the line so he doesn't go drive into a

1:19:31

fucking brick wall or something too. They do, yeah. So

1:19:34

they're on the line. He has confessed to both mom

1:19:36

and sister. The sister then

1:19:38

gives the phone to the cop. Gives

1:19:41

it to the cop. Yeah. She's like, yo, I'm putting

1:19:43

the cop on. So he gets on the phone with

1:19:45

the cop and confesses to the cop over the phone

1:19:47

too. Right. Well, I mean, you

1:19:49

already done this part. Let's just get

1:19:51

you somewhere that makes society safer. That's

1:19:54

what it is. So eventually

1:19:56

police spot his car and try to

1:19:59

pull him over. And he fucking takes off

1:20:01

of course. He's on the he's there have they

1:20:03

have to chase him now, so they're chasing him

1:20:06

through Tampa Roosters are flying

1:20:08

all over the place being hit bouncing

1:20:11

off Pontiacs Fucking bouncing

1:20:13

off everywhere. He is thinking chicken

1:20:15

tenders on every corner It's

1:20:19

a high-speed chase I believe it he

1:20:21

eventually Crashes into a

1:20:24

guardrail near I-75

1:20:26

and country or County Road 41 That

1:20:30

I guess best-case scenario hits

1:20:33

a guardrail his cars fucked up. Yeah

1:20:36

He the cops around him. He will not comply and

1:20:38

get out of the car really Can't

1:20:40

get he will not get out of the fucking he's

1:20:42

doing like a sovereign citizen thing like I don't have

1:20:44

to get out I don't answer questions. I don't answer

1:20:46

go won't get out of the fucking car at all

1:20:50

So the cops say all right here

1:20:52

chino chino chino is a police dog

1:20:54

that one of them has yeah Who

1:20:57

was a seven-year-old canine and this is his

1:21:00

this is his last night before

1:21:02

retirement literally no? This

1:21:04

is like the plot of

1:21:07

it's literally his last night job She

1:21:09

know that dog has done so much

1:21:11

work don't do this don't know

1:21:16

Chino Last night

1:21:18

on the job. He's like I'm one

1:21:20

day from retirement chino is I get

1:21:22

the gold collar tomorrow Yeah, that's what

1:21:24

he got a big gold collar in

1:21:26

the sky here. Oh, Jesus He

1:21:29

jumps in the car and fucking rips dude

1:21:31

right out of the car. She really yeah,

1:21:33

no, she's great Brian

1:21:36

don't want to fuck with chino apparently Chinos

1:21:40

seen worse than you man. I've yeah, he's

1:21:42

lived in floor over seven years The

1:21:46

car door was open and she no fucking

1:21:48

leaped into the car and just fucking pulled

1:21:50

him out Pinned him

1:21:52

in there. What was fucking bit onto him uh-huh

1:21:55

till the guy was screaming Please come get me

1:21:57

out of the fucking car this dog is on

1:21:59

me Can you imagine? How

1:22:02

the fuck? Okay.

1:22:05

I watch like On Patrol and the live

1:22:07

PD, whatever the fuck, and I'm watching it,

1:22:09

and I don't understand. Okay. Let

1:22:12

me just get the facts in my head,

1:22:14

because I'm a logic person, and the law

1:22:16

is supposed to follow a logic generally. Okay?

1:22:19

A police dog is a cop,

1:22:22

correct? If

1:22:25

you shoot a police dog and kill it, you

1:22:27

shot a cop, and you are prosecuted

1:22:30

as such. Yeah. But a police dog

1:22:32

can fucking bite you till they rip wounds

1:22:35

in you while you're saying okay and with

1:22:37

your hands up and doing anything that they

1:22:39

want you to do. You can't have that

1:22:41

thing arrested for assault? Yes.

1:22:44

If a cop bit you and tore chunks

1:22:47

out of your leg, the arrest would be

1:22:49

no good. He'd be kicked off the force.

1:22:53

What the fuck? Like, how

1:22:55

is that a fuck? Just like make

1:22:57

a- Like illegal. I'm not

1:22:59

saying it's bad, whatever, make the law what it is,

1:23:02

but the law is not logical, and it drives me

1:23:04

fucking crazy because you just have this- Yeah. It's

1:23:07

so ridiculous. You are essentially

1:23:09

using a weapon to make

1:23:11

this arrest, but if you

1:23:14

can't fire a gun and then

1:23:18

arrest the gun, this animal,

1:23:20

this animal, and when I play with

1:23:22

my dog, sometimes he gets out of

1:23:24

control. I'm fucking scared. This

1:23:28

is an animal whose job it is to

1:23:30

actually do this, and I don't

1:23:32

know the codes. I can't fucking- I don't

1:23:34

know the cheat codes to get this thing to stop you. I don't

1:23:36

know the cheat codes. I don't know how to get the wanted level

1:23:38

down. I can't do it. Nobody

1:23:40

knows that. Even the officers sometimes have

1:23:42

to beat that fucking dog. And

1:23:44

that's the other thing I want to say is

1:23:46

I see on the show sometimes they'll bite onto

1:23:49

somebody and they come over, they're coughing the guy,

1:23:51

they're all there, and the cop's still yelling at

1:23:53

the dog trying to pull the dog off, and

1:23:55

the dog is just ripping flesh off this person.

1:23:57

Well, this cop is hitting the dog. should

1:24:00

not be on the stat. No! You're

1:24:02

retired that night. Arrest it! Put it

1:24:05

in the kettle! You can't fucking do

1:24:07

that. I'm sorry, but that's crazy. Or

1:24:09

make laws that say that whatever the

1:24:11

fuck, but the logic, the law is

1:24:13

to follow the logic. You have to

1:24:15

use that dog in a specific situation.

1:24:17

If it's just a dude that's running

1:24:19

that's got meth, let's not rip his

1:24:21

fucking forearm apart. That's what I mean.

1:24:24

That's not helping any. So, I guess

1:24:26

sometimes the dog, the dogs help because

1:24:29

when you're finding someone and you send the dog

1:24:31

out, all of a sudden they give up now because they

1:24:33

don't want to get bit by a fucking dog. Which

1:24:35

would be a fine... Because they know nothing's going

1:24:37

to stop chewing on you. Yeah. Which, I mean,

1:24:40

it's great to use the dogs and they're highly

1:24:42

skilled and everything, but holy shit. Like, either

1:24:45

they have to be just as good

1:24:47

at releasing as they are catching or

1:24:50

you can't use that dog. That's gotta be

1:24:52

it. That dog has to be... You have

1:24:54

to make some fucking sound and that dog

1:24:56

quits, right? Yeah. I've never seen them quit.

1:24:59

No. They have to be like... They're still

1:25:01

like agitated when you put them in

1:25:03

their mouth. Yeah. They have to put that thing

1:25:05

in their mouth and like pop their fucking jaws open with it.

1:25:07

You know what I mean? That like sticks so they can... Yeah,

1:25:10

and then they put them in the truck and

1:25:12

it's still going fucking bananas in the back of

1:25:14

the truck. You know, it's not... The guy's

1:25:16

in the truck too. Yeah. Now you have

1:25:18

the dog and the guy in the truck.

1:25:21

Again, fuck this guy. It's not what I'm

1:25:23

saying. True, yeah. In general, I'm looking for

1:25:25

logic. So they have to take Brian

1:25:27

to the hospital because he heard himself in the

1:25:29

crash and he was bitten by a fucking dog.

1:25:31

Right. He goes to the hospital. And

1:25:34

by the way, one of his nicknames in

1:25:36

wrestling when he went by under Donovan Ruddick

1:25:38

was The Future. Donovan Ruddick. Uh-oh.

1:25:40

Which sounds like he's gonna marry someone

1:25:43

named Ruddick. And he's like, I'm gonna be

1:25:45

the future Donovan Ruddick. Not

1:25:49

much of a future. Here he's taken to

1:25:51

Pasco County Jail where futures die.

1:25:55

What a county. What a county. He

1:25:57

is now facing first-degree murder

1:25:59

charges. charges. And for

1:26:01

Chino, last day on the job,

1:26:03

he's been working five years and

1:26:06

he's only seven, but he's retiring early

1:26:08

due to leg problems and he gets

1:26:10

fatigued from leg problems so they can't-

1:26:13

Yeah, because he's a fucking German Shepherd and

1:26:15

his hands are bad. Yeah. His handler said

1:26:17

last night was probably one of the best.

1:26:19

What a way to retire, especially with a

1:26:21

homicide suspect. It really can't get any better

1:26:23

than that. That's

1:26:25

frightening. That's the other thing. That's the most

1:26:27

frightening thing. I mean, fucking

1:26:30

no if he apprehended a

1:26:32

homicide suspect or a Holocaust

1:26:34

survivor. It's no fucking idea.

1:26:37

It's a fucking dog. They

1:26:39

act like because it's a police dog, if it

1:26:41

was that smart, it would know to stop fucking

1:26:43

biting somebody. If there's a cop

1:26:45

beating the shit out of someone and someone goes, Johnson, stop

1:26:47

beating the shit out of that guy, he'll

1:26:50

stop. Or

1:26:53

he goes to prison forever. They act like

1:26:56

they know. The

1:26:59

rah-rah scares the shit out of me

1:27:01

too. What

1:27:04

if it was just a dude that was in a high speed

1:27:07

chase and we just set the dog loose to get him? That's

1:27:10

a disappointing career? What are you talking

1:27:12

about? He

1:27:14

still apprehended the guy. Sorry Chino.

1:27:17

It's only a shoplifter. Sorry we couldn't

1:27:19

get you anybody juicy to chew on.

1:27:23

Sorry you didn't get to rip the throat

1:27:26

out of a homicide. We really are. We

1:27:28

apologize for all that. He

1:27:31

said Chino normally gets a sausage biscuit from

1:27:33

McDonald's after he catches anybody, but they said

1:27:35

that he's going to get an ice cream

1:27:37

also this time because he's retiring. I'm going

1:27:41

to feed him poison. Good job. Yeah,

1:27:43

there you go. He

1:27:46

said his first day on the job he nabbed a

1:27:48

burglary suspect and they said

1:27:50

he both does location of a

1:27:52

person locating and he's an explosives

1:27:55

dog too. Wow. He's

1:27:57

as cool as fuck. That dog is lucky

1:27:59

to be alive. Yeah, so I mean he

1:28:01

was one of the dogs that routinely inspected

1:28:03

the area around Raymond James

1:28:05

Stadium where the bucks left. That's yeah, he was he

1:28:08

was one of those guys here So

1:28:10

he in his mugshot old Brian

1:28:12

has his hospital gown on which

1:28:15

makes him look crazier obviously The

1:28:20

hospital has him listed at six seven two

1:28:23

hundred and seventy pounds, so that's what

1:28:25

he is biggest shit still Yeah, they're not

1:28:27

lying about that stretch it and that's

1:28:29

medical man. That's medical That's what I mean

1:28:31

if it was when I first saw in wrestling. He was

1:28:33

listed at six six I'm like why is he listed it

1:28:35

shorter than he is number one right and

1:28:37

number two? Make him stretch him out six

1:28:39

seven you can tell him six nine Hulk Hogan. They said

1:28:42

was six nine He was six six. You could do that

1:28:44

there you go done So

1:28:46

yeah, the Facebook profile pic and all

1:28:48

that did not help any of this

1:28:51

stuff so no Yeah,

1:28:53

he is he's taken to jail

1:28:55

so two days later July 27th 2013 He's

1:28:58

trying to get bail now. Let's let this guy out

1:29:01

of the street. He's seen he seems stable. He's doing

1:29:03

great Yeah, I'd love to ask is

1:29:05

he out of his fucking mind, but that's unanswered

1:29:08

Yeah, and while he is doing

1:29:10

that he says that he

1:29:13

told deputies he remembers Driving

1:29:15

to the house so I

1:29:17

remember the killing but I remember driving to her house

1:29:19

to tell her goodbye because I was gonna kill myself

1:29:22

So I was just going to say you know peace

1:29:25

out. Yeah, and Yeah,

1:29:28

yeah, so then this all happens. He's talking to

1:29:30

my wife. It turned in all this So

1:29:33

the judge denies bail and tells him

1:29:35

quote you're facing life in prison Where

1:29:38

the presumption is great and the evidence is

1:29:40

great against you like you've admitted

1:29:43

to doing this We know you did it

1:29:45

you're asking to walk the streets. You had

1:29:47

your fucking mind while we wait for yeah,

1:29:49

do due process No, man, you're definitely gonna

1:29:51

take off or kill yourself and you broke

1:29:53

a knife in a woman and went back

1:29:55

to your car for another No,

1:29:57

yeah ridiculous. So the judge that

1:30:00

also mental health issues clearly need to

1:30:02

be explored a bit here. Reading

1:30:05

from reports, they said that he

1:30:09

told ... the judge was kind

1:30:11

of going over it and said that, yeah, you

1:30:14

called your sister and admitted to her you just

1:30:16

killed this lady and now you're going to try

1:30:18

to kill yourself. That's what he told her. And

1:30:21

they said that they got a description of the car and

1:30:23

tracked you down. That's how they got a description of the

1:30:25

car, was from the sister. They

1:30:27

said you go as far as Pasco County,

1:30:30

you went to the hospital. At the hospital,

1:30:32

you did an interview with police officers. You

1:30:34

said something about you remember driving over to

1:30:36

her residence to tell her goodbye because you

1:30:38

were going to kill yourself and that you

1:30:40

don't remember much after that. You did say

1:30:43

you remember calling your sister and telling her

1:30:45

you killed the woman. So

1:30:47

basically, everything you're saying is crazy and there's no way

1:30:50

we're letting you out on the streets. Right. We

1:30:52

can't. Yeah. He

1:30:55

says that they're

1:30:58

trying to say that you should give him bail. He's lived

1:31:00

in this county for two and a half years. Okay.

1:31:03

Yeah. He's got a wife, a sister, and

1:31:06

an 11-year-old child that live in the area. Okay. So

1:31:08

we know he's got that too. He

1:31:10

also works at a screen printing company

1:31:13

and as a bouncer

1:31:15

at three different clubs. Where Jimmy?

1:31:19

Guess where? Tampa. Guess

1:31:21

where? Yeah. Strip clubs.

1:31:24

Where is it? Guess what part of Tampa? Oh,

1:31:26

is it E-Bore City? It's

1:31:29

E-Bore fucking City because

1:31:31

E-Bore City is so bonkers

1:31:34

your fucking bouncer needs to

1:31:36

be a murderous 6'7", 280-pound

1:31:38

person because it's terrifying around

1:31:40

there. And he still cannot keep

1:31:42

that place safe because the place

1:31:44

is fucking wock. He's not even

1:31:46

in nowhere near the top 10%

1:31:48

of most dangerous people in any

1:31:50

group over there at that point in time.

1:31:53

I have never seen lowered Harley-Davidson's

1:31:56

with stereos bigger than my

1:31:58

car. Never. like

1:32:00

that before. I have bought

1:32:02

fucking drugs in the Bronx, like

1:32:05

in terrible neighborhoods. I

1:32:08

have never, ever, ever waited for my Uber

1:32:10

with my back against a brick fucking wall

1:32:12

so nobody can fucking come up from behind

1:32:14

me, ever in my life except for an

1:32:16

Ybor City. This is fucking

1:32:18

crazy. I

1:32:22

am fucking waiting to fucking wallop somebody. I had

1:32:24

my fucking knife in my pocket ready to smash

1:32:26

somebody broke. I had to put everything in my

1:32:28

front pocket so that I could walk. Yeah,

1:32:31

mostly my box cutter is what I had in

1:32:33

my front pocket. And everywhere

1:32:35

we go, I don't feel scared because I've been in

1:32:37

bad places and I'm out at three in the morning

1:32:39

smoking weed in an alley behind the fuck. In

1:32:42

downtown, that's the bad part usually.

1:32:47

Just about every city. Ybor

1:32:49

is by far the

1:32:51

scariest. Cleveland, awful, scary.

1:32:54

Ybor City is way worse than.

1:32:56

There are people there enjoying how

1:32:58

terrible. They love it. That's what

1:33:00

I mean. It's like

1:33:03

one of those future movies where everything's bad but

1:33:05

then there's like a group of people that are

1:33:07

like, yeah, that's right. They're like, they love it

1:33:09

and shit. That's what we're there. Having a good

1:33:11

time in it. Oh, God, it's disgusting. Like

1:33:14

a hooker in a fur coat smoking a

1:33:16

cigarette with jizz dripping under thigh. That's

1:33:20

the Ybor City. Fie and chin.

1:33:22

Yeah. Different jizz.

1:33:24

On the chin is keeping the cigarette in

1:33:26

her mouth. Yeah, it's stuck to

1:33:28

it. Two different jizzes, by the

1:33:30

way. Welcome

1:33:34

to Florida. Oh, my gosh. So,

1:33:39

there he is. He's

1:33:41

sitting in jail, fucked. Pretty

1:33:43

fucked, honestly. I mean, you don't get

1:33:45

more fucked than this. No. This

1:33:48

is bad stuff. He's sitting there. He doesn't

1:33:50

know what to do with himself. He's very

1:33:52

fucking sad. That's the thing. He's

1:33:54

very sad, which I mean, why wouldn't he be? You're in

1:33:56

jail here. He's ruined it. He is

1:33:58

held without bail. He decides, he

1:34:01

sits in jail for almost, well

1:34:03

actually for just about three years.

1:34:05

He sits in jail waiting trial. Oh

1:34:07

my God. Yeah. With

1:34:09

all the mental health evaluations and all the delays

1:34:11

and all this type of shit,

1:34:13

which it seems this is a pretty open and

1:34:16

cut case. There's even a witness that watched him

1:34:18

doing it. He admitted to doing it to multiple

1:34:20

people and the cops. Like it's all here everybody.

1:34:23

So because it's all here, he decides

1:34:26

to do a plea bargain. He

1:34:29

decides that it's a bad decision to try to

1:34:31

fight this. They

1:34:34

said the prosecutor talks

1:34:36

to the court and says, yeah, I was trying to get a

1:34:38

sentence when the knife broke. They say he went

1:34:40

back to the car to grab another one and continue the

1:34:42

attack. He said, then

1:34:44

he bragged about it. There were also

1:34:46

admissions made on social media made by

1:34:49

Mr. McGee specifically on Facebook. So

1:34:51

that's pretty gross. They said that

1:34:53

he is plea bargaining just to take

1:34:56

the death penalty off the table. That's

1:34:59

all he asked for in the plea bargain. That's all they

1:35:01

would get. Just bear me. Yep. So

1:35:04

the judge made it clear to him in this.

1:35:07

He said, you do understand that

1:35:09

in Florida, life without parole means

1:35:12

life without parole. And he

1:35:14

said, yes. So they're going to formally sentence

1:35:16

him. And they do. Public

1:35:20

defender explains the whole thing. And

1:35:22

judge says, you sir, may fuck

1:35:24

off life in prison without parole.

1:35:27

So bye-bye, Brian McGee.

1:35:29

He's there forever. Forever, which might

1:35:32

be good for everyone else, I would say, in the world.

1:35:35

Oh, man. Pretty fucked up. Now,

1:35:39

there's like a couple things on YouTube and

1:35:41

it's really hard to tell if anybody's any

1:35:43

good from one shaky phone camera on fucking

1:35:45

YouTube. It's just not that great. From 2013.

1:35:48

From 2008 or 2009 or some shit. I

1:35:51

can't tell if this guy's any good or

1:35:53

not. So I looked up and

1:35:55

I saw on the

1:35:58

one website, I think it's CAGED. match.net

1:36:00

or something. They have all the, they have

1:36:02

like their records of all their matches. It'll

1:36:04

be, you know, if a guy's famous, it'll

1:36:06

have 45 pages of fucking

1:36:08

matches of all of them with the

1:36:10

results. And then they have comments at

1:36:12

the end where people can comment on the wrestler

1:36:15

and all that sort of thing. And

1:36:17

they can rate them themselves from zero

1:36:20

to 10 in terms of their abilities.

1:36:23

So here is one. This is from June of 2023, so a

1:36:25

recent one. They

1:36:27

rated him zero. Oh. At a 0.0.

1:36:30

So that's not good. Oh. Wish

1:36:32

they could give him zero. They did. They

1:36:34

did, yeah. He said, had

1:36:36

a look that might have worked and a

1:36:39

gimmick, but was never good in the ring.

1:36:41

As a person, he seemed to be a

1:36:43

hard one to work with and his murder

1:36:45

convictions make him a black eye on the

1:36:47

great sport of wrestling. Which

1:36:50

has never been obviously besmirched

1:36:53

before. Never. Never.

1:36:56

Up till now, squeaky clean.

1:36:58

Outstanding law abiding citizens.

1:37:01

We don't have 14, 15 episodes about

1:37:03

murderers and fucking pimp

1:37:05

wrestlers and guys fucking their daughters

1:37:08

and killing people. Just

1:37:11

like any other sport. There's a bunch

1:37:13

of assholes in it just like any

1:37:15

other fucking runaway life. Products of rape

1:37:17

surprisingly have problems. Weird. And

1:37:19

guys who have been hitting the head a lot. Next

1:37:22

up, this is 0.0 stars. Again,

1:37:24

he's not doing well so far with his rating. Uh

1:37:27

oh. So far he's averaging zero.

1:37:30

Yeah. He said he's truly a

1:37:32

despicable human being. He's

1:37:34

a murderer. That's why he gets a zero

1:37:36

rating. He ruined it by being a murderer.

1:37:38

You know. Yeah, that's the

1:37:41

exact answer. Makes sense. Yeah, that's it.

1:37:44

Next up though, somebody gives him two stars.

1:37:47

Oh. A two rating, 2.0. It

1:37:50

says assets. He's going to run this down, pros

1:37:52

and cons. Assets.

1:37:55

Had decent height and size for a prospect.

1:37:57

If that's not decent, I don't know what

1:37:59

the fuck is. enormous, held

1:38:01

singles championships at lower levels, managed

1:38:03

to serve as a developmental prospect

1:38:05

for a spell. Flaws.

1:38:08

Wasn't the most toned athlete in the world.

1:38:11

You get an issue with his

1:38:14

physique. He took a

1:38:16

woman apart in her common area

1:38:18

of her apartment complex. But if

1:38:20

his pecs were a little more

1:38:22

toned, he might've gotten three. He

1:38:25

might not have needed a second knife. You know what I

1:38:27

mean? He might've been able to really work it through there.

1:38:29

Yeah. Uh, struggled with behavioral issues

1:38:31

during and after his release. So I think

1:38:34

that, I don't know how true that is,

1:38:36

but that is, uh, maybe why they released

1:38:38

him because paying the ass. He's

1:38:41

a little nuts. Yeah. Is now

1:38:43

imprisoned indefinitely following a conviction for

1:38:45

a murder charge. Career potential. Now,

1:38:49

career potential, Colin. There is no,

1:38:51

and they say developmental major league

1:38:53

prospect and solid independent circuit wrestler.

1:38:56

There is no potential. He's in prison forever.

1:38:59

Forever. His potential is to eat ramen noodles

1:39:01

and drink toilet wine. That's his potential. That's

1:39:05

all he's got there. And trade in sexual economy. Yes.

1:39:10

And the problem is Brian McGee's a very common

1:39:12

name. Oh God, Jesus.

1:39:14

I mean, I feel bad for Bianca and

1:39:16

her family and Brian's wife because holy shit,

1:39:18

that's a bad day. You

1:39:20

get called by the woman he's fucking who then he kills on

1:39:22

the phone with you. That's insane. You've got to

1:39:24

hear that. Not nearly

1:39:27

as bad as I feel for

1:39:29

Brian McGee, a Scottish drummer

1:39:31

who was, uh, who played in simple

1:39:33

minds. Oh, is that right? Simple minds.

1:39:36

Yes. There you go. 400

1:39:38

million girls. One in a minute. Here's a murder.

1:39:41

That's yeah, that's a different one. A murderer. It

1:39:43

doesn't matter. Yeah. Oh, that's yes.

1:39:45

A man charged 12 days

1:39:47

after a taxi cab driver was found shot to

1:39:50

death in 2019 in Tucker, Georgia. Oh.

1:39:54

This is yes. Brian McGee was arrested on

1:39:56

felony murder charges of, of, uh,

1:39:58

shooting a man. Perez is his

1:40:00

name inside of his own taxi cab.

1:40:04

And that was that footage was released of the man

1:40:06

who believed to be in the... So he shot the guy

1:40:08

and then got caught on footage as well. Idiots is hilarious.

1:40:11

Very nice job. And

1:40:14

yeah, they said it appears the only person that

1:40:16

walked toward the taxi stand where Mr. Perez was

1:40:18

parked is a black male wearing a book bag.

1:40:20

He gets in the driver's side and sits behind

1:40:22

him and that's him. So he's

1:40:25

booked on murder charges. So

1:40:27

Brian McGee, another Florida prisoner,

1:40:29

he's also... I found him

1:40:32

while looking for Brian's current status. It

1:40:35

says right at the top, it says primary

1:40:37

information. And the first thing

1:40:39

is designation and in blue letters, sexual

1:40:42

predator. That's nice. That's

1:40:44

what you want your label to be. Look at that. How'd

1:40:47

you like that to be your label? Sexual

1:40:49

predator. First and foremost,

1:40:51

before even your name, I

1:40:55

want to tell you he's a sexual predator. So you

1:40:57

know. So

1:41:00

he's been released actually this

1:41:02

guy. Sexual predators gotten out of

1:41:04

jail, but there are guys still in there. Another

1:41:07

Brian McGee here, looks like he stole

1:41:09

a shitload of Motorola batteries in 2001

1:41:11

from Kenosha,

1:41:14

Illinois, Kenosha, Wisconsin. I

1:41:16

bet he stole it from a fucking Motorola store.

1:41:18

They were all those black ones that clicked

1:41:21

out of the phone. The extra ones. Yeah.

1:41:24

You get the thicker one that lasted twice as long, it

1:41:26

would stick out of your phone all weird, but still was

1:41:28

great. That

1:41:30

guy, another... Oh, that's the guy who

1:41:32

got killed, the taxi driver guy too.

1:41:34

So yes, by the way... Oh

1:41:37

yeah, nevermind, there was that. So there you go

1:41:39

everybody. That is Brian McGee. He

1:41:41

sits to this day in a Florida

1:41:43

prison and I

1:41:46

don't think he's going anywhere. No, I

1:41:48

think he's staying there forever. Yeah. I'm

1:41:50

surprised he hasn't offed himself if I'm being honest with you.

1:41:54

But he might do well in prison though. He

1:41:57

might because you got structure there and he's got

1:41:59

a... Attitude and bad behavior,

1:42:01

but perhaps they're the if you're monitored

1:42:03

constantly maybe they can keep you on

1:42:05

the path I actually thought

1:42:07

of it the opposite way. I think he's

1:42:09

six foot seven 280 fucking all you can

1:42:11

be the king there And he's

1:42:13

a and he also You know he knows

1:42:15

how to take he can fucking take a bump and get up like

1:42:18

sure Wrestlers are fucking tough. They really

1:42:20

are I mean that's physically they can take a

1:42:22

beating. They're pretty great point That's

1:42:24

gonna be a fucking formidable guy in jail like you

1:42:26

know one's gonna fuck with that dude in jail I

1:42:28

don't think so he's the You

1:42:31

might get the respect he never got He's

1:42:35

on the outside who cares, but on the inside. It's all

1:42:37

huge so there you go everybody That's Brian

1:42:39

McGee Wow ring the new year in with

1:42:41

a murder and a real asshole So true

1:42:43

putting the extra stank on of getting the

1:42:45

other knife and stabbing her more is pretty

1:42:48

fucked up I think after he after

1:42:50

he worked it so hard. He broke it.

1:42:52

He broke it So

1:42:54

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1:44:03

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1:44:07

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