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Hi guys , welcome to another episode

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of the Creative Mountain Mama podcast

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. I am joined by Anna Panza

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of Our Faith Filled Home

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. She talks a little bit about homemaking

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, home management and homeschool

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. Thank you for joining me , anna . Of

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course I'm happy to be here . What's

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new ?

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to be here . What's new ? Um , there's not a whole lot , but I feel like every day

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is new , like there's always something that's going on in your world and it just

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changes every single day . So I

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am very

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fortunate to get to experience

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life with my little ones , and it's just

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every day is different life

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with my little ones , and it's just .

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Every day is different . Do you have any funny stories ? It seemed to be a limitless

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supply .

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It just it keeps going . And

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, um , I thought of something

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. I thought when something happened . I'm like , oh , this

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is so perfect to share

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with everybody . Um , I have

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, I'm a mom of three boys

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. My oldest is six , my youngest is eight

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months old and I have a two and a half year old . That's in

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the middle there and sometimes he gets a little rogue . And

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we have this like little joke in our family

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that we started with my six-year-old when

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he started to learn life

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counting . So my two and a half year old is

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counting the other day and one

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, two , it gets to 10 and he's like 21

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, 23 , 32 , but you're

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not here to come . And , like I always

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say when things they don't come out

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of them as you would hope , like when other people

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around like oh , so far , homeschooling is going great

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, like you just have to like laugh off , like

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the imperfections

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, because we've learned that over

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time they do catch on to put 11

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after 10 . And it just it

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was one of those like all right , we're here again , it's

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going well , I guess .

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That's awesome . Counting will come in

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the right sequence .

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Eventually , my six-year-old

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put eight between 12 and 13

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for the longest time and it was actually something I was like

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I hope you never get rid of this like I know you

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have to eventually , and it was kind

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of sad the first time that he counted from 12

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to 13 because

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it lost like that innocence about

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it . The eight wasn't there anymore .

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but I get to experience now again

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. Ours was gagokock

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for cookie .

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Gag-ock went away and cookie was

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replaced and I said that yeah

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, you want them to grow up and you want them to

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learn . You want them to

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be able to function , not be a 45-year-old that counts

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with an 8 between 12 and 13 . But

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also it's kind of like a bittersweet moment where you're like

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all right , we're doing this , we're growing

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up , we're changing .

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I hear you On the homeschool

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side . Can you tell me a little bit about

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the rhythm of your day ?

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Every day is different . That's

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actually the beauty of homeschooling

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, because we get the flexibility . So

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most likely I like to have a

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slower morning . There is one day a

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week where we do have to leave pretty

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like around eight o'clock in the morning and that

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day is not our example day . But

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for the most part we wake up , we

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will have breakfast together . We will make breakfast

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. I'm very lucky and fortunate

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that we have instilled my six-year-old

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. His habit is to empty the dishwasher

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, so I'll cook breakfast . He'll empty the dishwasher , so I'll cook breakfast . He'll empty the

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dishwasher . We'll work together , have little conversations

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about our day , we have breakfast

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and at that time our

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breakfast is blessed with either

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a devotional or a scripture

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verse that we're memorizing . So it's more of like

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a biblical time , foundational

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scriptural time , and then

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we go into getting

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ready for the day . Looking at our schedule , usually

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that looks like we will get dressed

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, we will take a walk together

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as a little family unit and then

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we'll come back and do some learning . Learning

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time looks a little different for my two

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and a half year old than it does for my six

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year old , but he participates , the

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baby . If he's awake , I'll put him in his high chair with something

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special for that day and then , after

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we do a little bit of learning , then

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we just play . We have lunch

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. Every once in a while We'll

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have a scheduled activity that starts in

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the early afternoon with some friends , or

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we'll have friends over , and then we

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just wait until family dinner feels

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like .

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Does that change seasonally ?

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We're in Southern California , so I don't feel like

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it changes very much because

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we don't have a lot of the weather pattern

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changes that I think there

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are , and I think we're very fortunate that

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it doesn't snow

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where we are . So our biggest hurdle

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of getting outside for that walk is

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rain usually , or wind

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. We live in a very windy area and

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so even if it's cold outside

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, we'll still go for a walk . We will

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still try to keep this rhythm . I

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also don't change my

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homeschool pattern very much for summer

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. I know some families will take the

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season of summer completely off from academics

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. It's like that homeschool we're

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off for the summer . I don't find

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that that works well for us . For

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myself , but my six-year-old

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I just since he was two

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and a half um , when

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my son was two , we had COVID . It was 2020

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and everything about our pattern

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shifted and changed and

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we ended up in our day

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going . I would get to the end of my day

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and I was like what did I do today

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with my two-year-old ? And we watched a lot of TV

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. It disrupted our home . It disrupted dynamics

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. Everybody's life was kind of turned upside

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down in that time . But I

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realized that if I got really intentional

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about doing activities with him , pairing

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a book with a coloring sheet at that time

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, sitting down reading a Bible story

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, doing an art project he's

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actually just grown from

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two and doing this time

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together in the morning . He's

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now six and I

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just don't like to disrupt things

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if they're working well . So we

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might have a little bit of off time when we

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go like camping or to the beach

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, but it doesn't mean that I'll stop

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the time at the table with breakfast

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. We'll just kind of keep that pattern going .

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Can you tell me a little bit about how you got started

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and what that shift was like ?

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I was never the mom that thought

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that I was going to homeschool . In fact

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, when we were starting the process as a

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married couple of looking for a home , you

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looked at the school district around you and

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I thought , if I was going to homeschool

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, I was going to need a homeschool room

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or a loft area where

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, like , the vision at that time was like , if I was going

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to do that , then I needed the bullet tomb boards

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with the funny little like scalloped edge

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around that , like we had when we went to school

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. And it was by

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an experience I

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, when my son was four months old , I joined a

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mom's group . I felt like at the

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time I didn't really have any friends . That

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related to the

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thought pattern and the thought process that

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we were having as a family in regards

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to a lot of things . Now that we have this child

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, we had some experiences

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before I had him that led us down this difficult

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path . The Lord used these

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struggles to refine us and

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draw us closer to him , because that's what

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he does . Struggles

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to refine us and draw us closer to him because that's what he does . He takes times of need and

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then he actually uses it as time to draw closer to him and

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I joined a group called holistic

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moms . They're all over the country , they have

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different chapters and I got around

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these women and I was mainly looking for like

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bubble bath , like what do you

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wash your baby in that's not toxic

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, and what do you eat and where do you get

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your eggs . And what I saw

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was these women homeschooling . But

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I saw their older children and what

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I loved about their older children was

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that they were engaged . They

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were not in a phone , they were either

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interacting with the younger kids

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. They were respectful . They were holding a conversation

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with me as an adult and

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they were in middle school and it was a respectful

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conversation . It wasn't like I was having to come

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down into like a methodical

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land to like communicate with them . We were actually

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communicating about real things

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and that sparked me

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into looking

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at homeschooling from a different lens . I

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was still on the fence , but what I learned

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from a couple that had homeschooled

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their children three adult ? They

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had three adult children now and they

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came and I learned from them in

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this talk and they were talking about interest-led

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learning , which is still something that I believe in wholeheartedly . Interest-led learning , which

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is still something that I believe in wholeheartedly

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and basically what that is

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is . You take what a child

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is interested in . In

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their case , their daughter loved airplanes and

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the way that the airplane she

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wanted to be a pilot . In

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my case , right now , I'm going to use the example of my son . My six-year-old loves

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race cars and it he can memorize and race

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cars are his thing . Right , and

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they talked about how they would teach

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their daughter math through the airplanes

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. They would teach her science , they would teach her all

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of these things based on what she loved and what they experienced

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because she loved airplanes

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. What they ended up experiencing was they didn't

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have the struggles . So I

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don't know how you grew up , but when I grew up in

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school , it was a struggle

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for me to be there . I

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didn't feel like like I always wanted

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to do something very creative . I wanted to go

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to cosmetology school and I

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was met with resistance when I got to that

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point in high school . I didn't

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want to do all all the academic-y things . I wanted

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to use that time to

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do like cosmetology and that's what I

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was really I loved , and it kind of got stifled

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and pushed down because that wasn't whatever

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the term was realistic

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or it was hard for . I think it's hard

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for people to really see , like , when

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someone wants to be creative . We are taught culturally

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like that's kind of dreamy . But then

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you realize when you get older you look back and

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like , wow , I really would love to do something

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that I love . That's what interest-led

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learning is . But it starts it at

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such an early age and once I heard that

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there was there is no

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really you

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. You can't convince me otherwise

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just because I see the fruit of it already

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. And my son I

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don't have , um , I

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haven't experienced any resistance

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to learning because we just follow his

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lead . He wanted to learn how to read specifically

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so he could read , um , like

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the , the reader boards

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in different things or races

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. He just just he wanted to learn how to read . So that's

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what we started to do and it

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has not been met with any like like

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I I would have done if I was drug

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through something . Um

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, and there there are other things that

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led me there . I , um , I

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have any like any resistance

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to like the public school like a

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classroom day , and I

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kind of I read some books that guided me

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through like what a public school

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classroom looks like , how it got that way

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, how our , our academics were kind of

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came about and that shifted

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me too . So it's kind of like it's multifaceted

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what got me there , but those are the main things

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that that drove me to

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be here .

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And it sounds like you've done your research . You

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share your story . How

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have you seen that touch other

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people's lives ?

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I , um , I call it like my

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hill , like this is the thing . I could talk about

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this for hours because I'm so passionate

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about it , so it's almost like my little hill that

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I'll stand on and , um

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, I am not naive . I know

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that homeschooling , for multiple reasons

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, is not for everyone that sometimes I met with

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, but I also think that we have a lot of hesitations

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as a culture that

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are really just misunderstood things

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and um it it

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has , the resistance sometimes

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can be . I

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don't want my kid to , and I can easily just

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like kind of justify all of these . I don't want

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my kid to be weird and not socialized

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. And or how , as a stay-at-home

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mom , how do I get my , how

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do I keep my home in a certain place when

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I have my kids there 24

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, 7 I ? There's this idea culturally

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that they go somewhere and that's

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when you do all of your life and then you go pick

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them up , right , and there's a hesitation

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that you won't have

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like I . There's a hesitation

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that you're going to lose out or miss out

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on time with yourself or

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time to think for yourself , or

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if I'm at home for six hours , because we

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view it when I've , whenever

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I'm at resistance and I start to ask

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questions what is like ? What

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do you think a homeschool day looks like ? Because

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it does not look like a

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7am or an 8am

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to a 2.30pm , a

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7 am or an 8 am to a 2 30 pm , and actually looks more like an hour and a

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half a homeschooling day . Because when you think about it

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, I don't have the interruption

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. I have interruptions . I have a nine

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month old or eight month old and a two and

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a half year old , but I don't have the same interruptions

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. Right ? And when you think about how

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a child in a classroom has to transition

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from subject

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to subject , right , we're taking 20 to 30 kids

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and we are . Transitions are hard

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, transitions are hard for adults

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, transitions are hard for children . And

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we take these 20 to 30 children and we transition

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them from math and then we

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tell them to click it off , and then we tell them to click

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it off , and

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now we're going into science and there is disruption , because a human brain cannot just

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toggle through in that manner smoothly

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100% of the time . So you

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have 20 to 30 , let's just say 25

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kids that you're trying to get them

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to transition over . Of course there's disruption

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, of course there's

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struggle , there's children that learn differently

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. So now I have a teacher that is teaching in

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10 different learning

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styles and patterns , so the day

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does not look like a six-hour

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school day . Life

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is also school . So we

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learn from a book for reading

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. Because I needed the help as a mom

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and I needed someone

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that went before me that knew how to teach a child's

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brain how to read . So I got the reading curriculum

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. But a

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normal day could look like math

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by baking , fractions , counting

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, make sure you put three eggs , because if you put four eggs , that's

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why I have to learn what comes after 10 , because 21 doesn't come after 10 . You can't put

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21 eggs , you have to do 11 eggs . So that's why I have to learn what comes after 10 , because

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21 doesn't come after 10 . You can't put 21 eggs

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, you have to do 11 eggs . So I do want

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my children to learn how to do all

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of these things , but I can also

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. I've learned that I can teach them in life , when we

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go somewhere , when we're communicating , and

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then the , the socialization thing I

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always think is so interesting . Socialization

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thing I always think is so interesting . And when I went to school I was in a classroom with I was

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six and I was in a classroom with six to

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seven year olds , and then I

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went into high school and I was in a classroom

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with 15 to 16 year olds . And

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then I got into college and

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I was with adults who were had

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grandchildren right . So I

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went through K to 12 with peers

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my own age and then I got kicked

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into life and I had

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to go into the workplace . I worked

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at Applebee's as a server and I

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had to communicate with adults . I had

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to communicate with adults that were

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my peers , that were at my tables

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, that my management

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system , because those people weren't 18 or

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19 years old . So I had to learn really quickly

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how to function in the world and

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I feel like it's the

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only time in life for 13

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years , where we expect a human

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to only communicate and socialize

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with their own age group . But

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also , I just find

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it really interesting that we have this belief system

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still and that's still a

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hesitation or like the resistance

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, or what I met with sometimes like well , how do they socialize

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? Their calendar keeps . I have to keep their

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calendar in a way that serves our family

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, because we could easily have socialization

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opportunities that would just blow

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us out of the water because there's

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so much abundance in the

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opportunity to socialize

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. But what we call it as a family is play

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with children of

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all ages at the park , at

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the museum , at the amusement park

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, because our schedule now has this flexibility

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where if my son was in class , he

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gets an allotted 30 minutes for

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recess , maybe if

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he didn't act out in class because sometimes we'll take that

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away from children , right or

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then he gets a lunch break and

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then he gets a . He would get a small

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period after school , maybe while

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he's waiting for someone to pick him up to socialize

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and play . I don't find that that socialization

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. I find and maybe

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I'm biased because I've experienced it for

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almost six years . My son entered

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into homeschooling groups when he was 18

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months old and I started to build community with

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families at that time . I

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didn't , um , I

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haven't seen him just sit and

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wait for friends to come over

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or like we don't just sit in our house

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all day , you know we , we go

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out and we experience and

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we're social , so that

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I always find that if someone were

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to say that to me now , they

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need like 20 minutes for me to give them my

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answer back . But because I will just

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explain it just like that . It just doesn't . Socialization

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, I just feel like , isn't , doesn't even

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have any like . It's not even valid

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anymore , especially when we're looking at what school

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is now and the shift that happened from 2020

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to where we're currently at .

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It's totally different , can

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you dive a little deeper into

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your reference to your

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background , studying public school how

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that came about .

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A little bit of the history . Is that something you

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can share ? I

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can . So I found this book . It was recommended to me by this couple that I spoke about

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earlier that I went to the talk and they just they gave their hearts

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of how they raised their three children

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and it's called Dumbing Us Down by

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John Gatto . The book is

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about this big and it is

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such an easy read . I

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would say that sometimes you run across

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a homeschooling book and to kind of comprehend it

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you're just like this is so boring . But basically

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what he does is he walks through in this book and

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it's the thing that really

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shifted , because when I started to

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look at homeschooling I had fear , I

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had hesitation . What was my

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mom going to think ? What was my dad going to think ? What was

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my grandma going to think ? What kind of conversations

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are going to happen at the dinner table ? How is it going to protect

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my kids ? And so I read this book and

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he basically walks through how the

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public system , public school system

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, was kind of established

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over time . Over

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time we created

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these little classrooms , we created a curriculum

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, we created an agenda

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. Gets thrown around in our world , so like

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we created a systematic way for children

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to learn and the reason for that

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was so that they would exit the school

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system and kind of fall in line , really

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Like , if you can . That's how I was

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raised . I was raised in a public school system

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and when I got out I thought I had to go to college

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. I took on student loans to go to college

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I referenced earlier . That drive

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and that passion inside of me to be

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creative and create was

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stifled . So I basically took

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out student loans to follow the course

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because I thought that's what I was

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supposed to do and

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it left me with student

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loan debt and unfortunately

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it left me with a degree that didn't

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match my passion , like it

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, it just . I look back at it

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now and like obviously you

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need experience in life to learn . That's

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why God gives them to us , but I

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needed I would . I still tell

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my husband to say I will go and

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do and pursue that . So when

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we go through school , by

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this , this , um , this

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way of life , this , this creation

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, we're just all kind of falling in place

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. The bell rings , we line up , we go in

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and we sit down , and when you don't sit

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down and you are a child that has

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, you're a child that

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wants to go play and burn some energy . I don't

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know how we sometimes we'll label it ADHD

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and I'm just like no , they're just children . And

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sitting at a desk , adults

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don't do that . When I worked

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in an office , I

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had to get up from my desk to walk

20:52

around the office mindlessly

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to break . I just couldn't

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sit there all day . And we expect these

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little children to sit in a desk . But

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we're training them up and we're training them to sit in a desk . But we're

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training them up and we're training them to sit there

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. And if they don't

21:07

sit there and they aren't quiet and they do use

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their limbs in wild ways in this 10 by 10

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little prison cell that they get , then

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we call them bad

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, or we call them , we send them off , or we take

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away the reason . This is what drives me crazy

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. When I hear like they got their recess

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taken away , I'm

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like , oh my gosh , they really need that . Like that

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is not discipline , that is just taking away

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what they need . They

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need to go , obviously burn some energy , and

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I don't know . I don't think , observing

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my son like I am so grateful

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that someone is not forcing you to sit at

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a table , because that's what's not you

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you know . So

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the book is dumbing

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us down by John Gatto and I think if

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you're on the fence and you're not really sure , you need

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just some more , like not

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convincing , but you feel like you need to learn

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something so that when you're challenged you

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have this response

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. That is an excellent place to start .

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Absolutely . Knowledge is power . Thinking

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back to where you started

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, is there anything you would do differently

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knowing what you know ? Now I'm

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.

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I'm I don't say this

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from like a ego place , but I'm very

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happy with where

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we are ending up and

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I always joke like I might wake up one day and my six-year-old might just totally throw

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me off and blow like blow my theory all the way up Hasn't happened

22:37

yet . I'm still banking that it won't

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, because I have the research

22:41

and the knowledge and now I know how this

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is working . But something that I

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think I wish I would have started sooner was

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foundationally

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laying more biblical scripture

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and life in him . That took

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me a little bit of realizing a

22:58

shift , and what I mean by that is

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I got caught up in

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thinking that academics were priority

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and I got scared . I

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got fearful of what would happen

23:08

if he fell behind and

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I hear that often as well from other

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families and I'm grateful that the

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Lord took me and helped me work through that , because

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now , the way that I see it is , there's

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no falling behind , because the

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main thing for me now is

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making sure that my kids have a

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biblical foundation first

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. That is most important . And

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I discovered my sons , my six-year-old . I have

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three sons , my

23:36

six-year-old , I have three sons . So

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my six-year-old had this incredible ability

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. After a race one time he

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memorized the driver , the

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driver number , the place of

23:48

the driver in that particular race

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of like 27 cars , and

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he did it because he was passionate about it one

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. But what it made me realize was that

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I was underestimating how much he could

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memorize scripture . So

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what I did was like all right , let's see . Let's

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see if we can memorize John 3 , 16

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together . And he was three and a half

24:08

, I think three years old , and

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we memorized it line by line together

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and he holds that in his heart and

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he holds that as a foundation

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that now he can walk into life and

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he can pray it , he can say it , he

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knows it and over time we've done many

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others . We're working on Galatians 6 , 9

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right now and my two and a half year

24:28

old can not

24:30

perfectly but given the

24:32

correct , like helping him guide along , he

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knows Galatians 6 , 9 and he's two

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and a half years old . 6

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, 9 and he's two and a half years old and I think sometimes we are leaning on as Christian , as Christian

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mothers , we kind of sometimes think okay , we only have so much time in the day , how

24:50

do I fit all of this in ? Right , like I

24:52

just you kind of , and distractions

24:54

of phones and the world and all of these

24:56

things . And so we think , sunday , whether

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you have a children's ministry or we're

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sending them into a worship

25:03

service with us and we're hoping that they're gathering

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all of these things , we hope that's

25:08

enough and I just don't think

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it is . We come from a church that has an

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incredible children's ministry , children's team

25:14

, and I feel like I would be leaving

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so much opportunity on the table

25:19

for them , kingdom

25:21

wise , because that's what I'm raising . I'm raising children

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to be disciples , to be kingdom

25:26

movers , to go out into the world and

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move for God's kingdom . That's my

25:30

job . I believe that , and

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so if I just left it up to my children's

25:34

pastor on a Sunday and didn't incorporate

25:37

it into our lifestyle during the week

25:39

, I don't feel like it would be sticking

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. And I just see , because of the fruit

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of going through it consistently with them

25:46

, I don't drive home scripture and then we don't sit

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there like a chalkboard and be all crazy Like we

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did in the car today driving them to grandma and grandpa's

25:52

. We went through Galatians 6 and 6

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and 9 together and I'll tell you

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, as a mom , I

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didn't grow up memorizing scripture , so I'm not

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the first one that can belt it out for you

26:03

, but I'm learning it alongside my

26:05

children and so now , when

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we need that little bit of a reminder , I

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can help them and help myself

26:12

. Pull from scripture to

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center us , like Galatians 6

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, 9 is let us not grow weary

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of doing good , for in the right time we will reap

26:20

Right . So I can

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use that to remind my son

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or to remind myself on the hard

26:26

days . Hey , like God shows

26:28

us in his word that if we keep going

26:30

we will reap a

26:32

benefit . It may not feel like it right now

26:35

, but then to be able to link

26:37

them back to scripture is

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my job . And then ABC's one , two , three's

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reading comes after . I

26:45

also think it's interesting . Reading

26:49

is not the primary thing

26:51

, but if he

26:54

wants to read , to read the scripture

26:56

himself , then I'm like all for it . And

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so we do a lot of reading out of children's

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. There's like easy reader Bibles

27:03

that go through different accounts

27:05

in a way that he can now read

27:08

it for himself , because I can tell him , I

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can show him . But if I teach him

27:13

how to do it , he's going to retain it a

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lot better and longer .

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Raise up your children in the way they

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should go , and they will never depart from it

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. Thank you so much , anna .