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This is COVID 19 Seattle,
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I'm Dave Ross
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and I'm Aaron Granillo.
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Story broke on this day. One year
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ago, the country's first confirmed case
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of COVID 19 landed in
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Washington. Snohomish County health officer Dr
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Chris Spitters delivered the news.
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The gentleman is a Snohomish County
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resident, and he is currently
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in Providence
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Medical Center. That 35 year old
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man had touched down in Seattle just a few
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days prior after flying in from Wuhan,
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China. At that time, there were only
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six known deaths from the novel
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coronavirus. A year later, COVID
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19 has killed more than 400,000
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victims in the US. Dr. George
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Diaz treated that first COVID patient.
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He's an infectious disease specialist at
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Providence Regional Medical Center in
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Everett. And Dr Diaz, can you take
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us back to that moment when you first
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learned about our patient one?
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Yes. We had been
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expecting patients to come
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to the US with COVID. So we had done
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a lot of preparation within our hospital in our health
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system to be ready for patients like this.
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So we had already done large drills
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at our hospital. When we got the call
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to admit
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this patient and that we had the first patient, the US
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We were obviously surprised. You
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know, you often do preparations, and then nothing
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happens. But in this case, we
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got the call that we would be admitting
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this patient. So our
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our thoughts turned to activating all of our protocols
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and getting our checklist
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done so we could make sure that we're ready
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uh, when he came. What precautions
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did you take? And were you aware of
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the time just how infectious this
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particular virus was? We weren't
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exactly sure. Although
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we had started really looking into this
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in December when the first reports
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were coming out of China and what we
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what we had heard was that it appeared to
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be quite contagious. And we had heard that there
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were, uh, substantial lockdowns
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going on in China because of the rapid spread.
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So while we didn't know specifics,
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we were very concerned this was gonna be
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contagious and likely
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deadly. We had heard about some deaths already.
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We elected to use our Ebola precautions.
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That's the highest level of isolation
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that we have available on.
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We had drilled on that, given the uncertainties
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of the infectiosness and the mortality of the virus,
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we felt that we should take the highest
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level precautions. And so we trained on,
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uh, the Ebola precautions
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that that had been in place for several years,
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and that's what we prepared for.
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Can you elaborate on that, Dr Diaz? I mean,
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I've heard stories about, you
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know, robots going in there to to
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treat this first patient.
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Yeah. So the Ebola precautions
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are quite intense. Uh,
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it requires standing up a special
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pathogens unit, which was
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a two bed unit that we created in our hospital.
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It required very specific
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airflow, very specific
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PPE use. We
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did use our telehealth robot, which
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was a state of health unit that
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was inside the patient's room. The
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idea for this was to try to reduce
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exposures as much as possible. The
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nursing staff that provided direct patient
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care were in the room with him. But
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any other, uh, caregivers
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that needed to interact with the patient could use
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a robot, including myself. And
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so on the first day, when he arrived, we
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turned on the robot. They wheeled the
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robot to the patient's bedside
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and I could do an exam with a stethoscope
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that's built it on the robot. As
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well, as take a history from him, uh,
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you know, visually using the robot screen.
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And did you did you sound the alarm? Did you
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did you call the state government? Did you call the federal government
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to say, "Hey, it's here. Let's do
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something." Uh, they called us
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so the patient had presented to one of our clinics
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the day before. And, uh,
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because of his history, he was very up front
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about the fact that he had traveled to
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Wuhan and he was there visiting family
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on when he got sick. He,
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um, immediately went and reported
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to symptoms, so he was very compliant.
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And with his history, the clinic appropriately
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got him tested with the help of the county
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health district and those samples
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were then sent on to the CDC and
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resulted overnight. So it
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it was the next day that we were advised
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by the CDC that they wanted us to admit the
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patient for observation. Did everything
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that happened stem from that one case,
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or are we thinking now
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that a lot of people entered the country
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simultaneously with the virus? And
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that's how the spread started? Yeah so the
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county health department did an extensive
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contact tracing, uh, basically,
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you know, working backwards. The
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patient himself was extremely compliance and
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open about everything he had done
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for the few days he was at home
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before he came to the hospital.
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And so they were able to trace
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all the steps and, uh, did
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contact tracing with I think, around 60 people
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that might have been exposed on
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and none of those persons turned positive.
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You know what we know now is that
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at the time that our patient was diagnosed,
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there were likely probably thousands
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of other patients in the U. S. That
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were code positive that we didn't know about,
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uh in part due to the difficulty
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we had with testing initially.
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Dr. Diaz, I wonder if you can reflect on this
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week's milestone when the country
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surpassed 400,000 deaths.
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What does it mean to you from your perspective,
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as the doctor who treated the country's
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first confirmed case?
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Yeah, you know, ah, year out
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from our first patient, we have a pretty
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grim outcome so
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far, with 400,000 Americans
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dead from the virus and countless others who
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are debilitated from the effects
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after the infection. Uh,
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we've struggled as a country with
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feeling the pandemic, maybe more so than any
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other country on Earth and
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it's a likely a result of the fact
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that we aren't a unified country. And
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the messaging that was coming from the federal government
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with respect to masks and public health
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measures were employed
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in some places and not very well at others. And,
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you know, thankfully, within the state of Washington
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we have a governor's
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office that has been working very closely
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with public health, and the messaging
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for Washingtonians has been aligned,
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um, locally. And I think that's
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helped us avoid some of the dramatic
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problems that have occurred in other states. But
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it's really, you know, mostly
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sadness about the people that have died.
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I think most of us know people that have
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had the infection or even
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died. So this is affecting
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our entire community on Unfortunately,
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it's not slowing down nationwide,
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so this is something that will be with us until
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we get our whole country vaccinated.
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Did this have to happen,
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or could it have been
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prevented? Well,
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I think there were likely going to be deaths
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in the US regardless, but you know when
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you compare the responses
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to other advanced nations and we're
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an Advanced Nation, we have, you
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know, the highest health
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care resource is in the world. Many patients
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come from around the world to receive medical care
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in the U. S. Uh, most of the
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pharmaceutical companies that have invented therapeutics
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that we're currently testing, um are
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are made in the U. S. So
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we have a really huge
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advantage. Uh, starting out
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with the resources we had and we
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compared to other countries that have similar resources,
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for example, South Korea or Taiwan or
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Japan. Uh, their responses
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have been one of national unity
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where the entire population is
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on the same page with respect to
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how they're dealing with this virus. And
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unfortunately, we haven't been, uh
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and the results from that are evident.
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Of course, we have a new administration now,
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you know, speaking about unity.
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But as you mentioned Dr. Diaz, we are
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incredibly divided as a nation.
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So are we are we in too deep
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already to reverse the course of the pandemic?
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Or can this new Biden administration
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create positive change in containing
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the spread?
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Well, firstly, for us to get past
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the pandemic. We have to have our population
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vaccinated. And I think
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that the new administration is appears
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to be making the right moves with respect to
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a national game plan for getting
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our folks vaccinated. That
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will be welcome news within our state,
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for sure. But there are, unfortunately
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many people in our country that
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are exposed to disinformation
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on believe false things about
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this vaccine that's unsafe, when in fact,
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we're quite certain that it's safe and effective,
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and those beliefs
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may be pretty well baked in. And
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it may be difficult to convince people to get
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their vaccines on in those
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areas where these beliefs are
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strongly held. Uh, those
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areas will be a continued source of ongoing,
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uh, infections and deaths.
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How frustrating is that for you to
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know that there is so much disinformation
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and misinformation about the vaccine?
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It's a huge problem, and it directly
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makes my job worse because
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for people that don't wear masks or
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don't socially distance or don't follow the guidelines
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from public health, those are the
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people. They're coming to our hospital, uh,
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you know, extremely ill. Our
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staff our medical and nursing staff and respiratory
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therapists have been dealing with us for
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the past year and much of
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this can be avoided by human behavior.
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And so as
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people don't do the things they should be doing, like
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getting vaccinated is putting more
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burden on people on the front lines.
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There
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is intense pressure to reopen schools and, of course,
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to
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reopen businesses. Would it be ethical
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at some point, once the vaccines available
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to anybody who wants it to say,
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okay, those of you who didn't get it,
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that was your choice. But we're going
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to reopen and
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we'll wear masks. But
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we can't keep the society closed down because
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of you. Well,
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you know, I hope we get to that point,
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you know, because I think that, for example,
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restaurants, for example,
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um, you know it's a privilege
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to be able to go to restaurants, sit down and eat and
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you know, if if there's ah,
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a portion of the population is vaccinated
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and we know that they're safe in,
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you know, a crowd. Perhaps
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it makes sense to say, for example,
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you know well, if your vaccinated we can
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prove it, you can go to
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a restaurant or a gym, you
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know, your kids could go to school. And
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for those people that choose to
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be vaccinated, perhaps,
10:45
you know, they're choosing to have their children be,
10:47
uh, at perpetual homeschool,
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right? I mean, most places
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require vaccinations for measles,
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mumps and rubella. And
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don't allow children to attend school
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if they don't agree to be vaccinated because,
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you know, they're not only risking themselves, but
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they're risking the population. So
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I have not heard much, uh,
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in this direction yet, but I would imagine
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that that would be something that would be considered
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as we move forward because I think people
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that they're doing the right things being
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getting back, they wearing masks, social
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distancing. Uh, they
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should be able to get back to normal
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life if they're no longer pose a risk to
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the population.
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Beyond the the
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main question right now of
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when am I eligible for a vaccine?
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The other top question that I get the most from friends
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and family is when do we get back
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to normal? So what is your expectation
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speaking as an infectious disease doctor?
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And do we ever fully get
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back to where we were pre COVID
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days?
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I think it's possible for us to get back
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there. It really means that we have to have
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90 or 95% of our population
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vaccined. I think if that's
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the case, then we could probably
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safely reopen you know, our entire
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economy. Um, you know, as
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it was, pre COVID, but that
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that really takes a national effort and
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in Washington a full state effort to
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get everyone vaccinated. Right now, we are still
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waiting on vaccine shipments from
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federal government. The governor has been
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working on, you know, mass vaccination programs
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around the state, Uh, to get up over
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a million or two, you know, per day nationally
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so , this is something that I
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think it's certainly possible. It's gonna be a lot of
12:29
effort on. It really takes our
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community be fully on the same page to
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get there. Although I think we have trouble getting people
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to accept the idea of carrying some sort
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of ID card. That's the only drawback uh
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drawback I see with that plan. Yeah,
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it would have to be secure, you know, we
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currently use the Washington state registry to
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administer vaccines. So, for example, at
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providence, if I if we vaccinate somebody at
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Providence. Uh, that vaccination
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record goes into a Washington state registry, which
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is, you know, a
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record for the entire state on.
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So if someone gets vaccinated somewhere else, we could look on the registry
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and see if they've been vaccinated elsewhere. I
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would imagine that could be securely tied to something
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like your driver's license so that people
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would be, you know, securely able
13:13
to find out if one is vaccine
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or not.
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The thought right now is that this
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new contagious variant
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of COVID could be the dominant strain
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in the United States in a month or two.
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As far as I know, we don't
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have any confirmed cases of this variant here
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in our state. But how concerning
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is that that there is this new not
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not any more deadly, but certainly more
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contagious strains circulating around
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the country now?
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Yeah, it's extremely concerning, you know,
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in the UK, where they're variant
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was discovered, uh, likely
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contributed to a major surge in that country
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with an increasing number of cases.
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Not only that, but it shifted the
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people that were getting infected. So because
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it's so much more contagious. Uh,
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previously, Children who were less
13:59
likely to be infected just by their nature of their
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immune systems are now being
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more likely infected in the U. K. And
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so this this does affect the
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population, you know, with a more
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contagious strain. That being
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said, the current vaccine that we have appears to be
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likely safe and effective for that these
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variants as well. And so
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for those people that elect not to
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get vaccinated when their time comes, uh,
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their risk will likely be even higher
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than currently it is. Dr George Diaz,
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he treated the first COVID patient, infectious disease
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specialist at Province Regional Medical Center in Everett.
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Dr. Diaz, thank you very much. Thank you so
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much for having me. We'll be back with you next Thursday
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to discuss the latest coronavirus news. You
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14:44
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